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Well, yah, sir, welcome. 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: How you being. I've been great, Bro, long time, it's 50 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: been a minute. Yeah, you got this new record out 51 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: with Chris, which is crazy. Get back, Bro, appreciate you. 52 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: Like what's been going on in your world though, Man, 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: for people who ain't been paying attention, man a lot man. 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: Of course, the singles out right now. You know, we 55 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: just want to do something iconic for R and B. 56 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: You know, we're working on shooting the video, getting that 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: all the way right, setting up the summertime. I got 58 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: a couple of other singles coming. Really just focusing on 59 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: singles for this summer, you know what I'm saying, and 60 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: then project probably end of the year, top of next 61 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: year sometime. In my world, bro, I've been creating a lot, 62 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: creating a lot, writing and writing a book right now, 63 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: working on some other business. Is the book kind of 64 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: like your life story? Nah, it's not really a life story. 65 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: It's more of like a memoir. It's more of like 66 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: a balancing your personal spiritual space conversation, you know, this 67 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: conversation having with myself that I'm kind of bringing the 68 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: world into. You know, I feel like I've been in 69 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: the industry so long, and I've also just been through 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: a lot of different things and different dimensions of my life. 71 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: I needed an outlet. You know. It's kind of like therapy, 72 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: therapy in a way, you know, So it promotes mental health, 73 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: it promotes spiritual awareness, it promotes social awareness. You know, 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: it's got a little bit of everything in there. You 75 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: have had a pretty wild ride through just life. When 76 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: we think about things that have happened in your personal life, 77 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: your career has always it's got peaks and valleys, and 78 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, anytime you're a creator and you're under the microscope, 79 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: it feels like, you know, sometimes we forget that, like 80 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: you're a human being, and yeah, I mean, you know, 81 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: you have to train yourself as like you know, as 82 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: you as you get older. I started so young, but 83 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: as you get older, I think you get these pockets 84 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: of like growth, spurts of spiritual intelligence, emotional intelligence, and 85 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: those are the things that you need to tap into 86 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: if you're not distracted enough too much by the lifestyle, 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, And I always I've always been aware of that. 88 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean I had my moments while I was super 89 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: distracted by it, but like for the most part, I've 90 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: always been self aware just because of the where I 91 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: grew up. You know what I'm saying. I've seen all 92 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: the craziest stuff in my life earlier on. So this 93 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: was just kind of like, Okay, this is more like 94 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: human behavior, you know, psychological, energetic. How do you navigate that? 95 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: That's what I feel like the industry is more so 96 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: you talk about mental health, like, yeah, how like because you've, 97 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: like I said, you've been You've dealt with stuff that 98 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: a lot of people haven't had to deal with in 99 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: their life, even and as a star, you know what 100 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: I mean, which is what's even crazier. People deal with 101 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: certain shit, no one knows who the fuck they are. 102 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: You're dealing with a lot of shit. You know what 103 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: it comes to what happened with your mom, you know, 104 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: moving back to Baltimore when you were already on you 105 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, do you feel like you know, 106 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we look at artists and we're like, 107 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, if we think of Mario, We're like, Okay, 108 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: what's Mario been up to? Do you feel like you've 109 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: had to like kind of battle through any like personal 110 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: depression or anything to kind of break through, like to 111 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: where you are today. What we call depression. I mean, 112 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: this is just like my perspective, but what we call 113 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: depression and you know, stress and just those immense, deep 114 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: moments of like where you feel like your life is over, 115 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: the world is over, is triggers for us to work 116 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: on things that are unhealed, that we're not walking a 117 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: path that's true to our purpose sometimes, you know what 118 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: I mean. So for me, it was like I have 119 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: moments of depression, but I didn't sit them in them 120 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: too long. I'm more so spent more time just studying 121 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: and understanding my history, understanding you know, my purpose outside 122 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: of just music, and it just gave me more more 123 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: of a of a purpose and foundation when it comes 124 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: to me as a human being, and that helps with 125 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 1: everything else. Once I figured that part out, and luckily 126 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: I started young enough to whear those five six years 127 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 1: where I was just like not really doing the music 128 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: thing and just kind of focusing on myself. Luckily I 129 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: started so young, you know, because now it's like I 130 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: have all of that knowledge to kind of like apply 131 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: to by now, which I was gonna say everything. Bro, 132 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: do you think starting kind of having to be forced 133 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: to grow up fast? Right? Yeah? Do you think that 134 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: that kind of helped prepare you for life? Like you know, 135 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: I had maybe you gone through some of the things 136 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: you went through at eighteen or nineteen years old without 137 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: having to have been kind of a superstar, and you know, 138 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: b Mario, do you think that that kind of helped 139 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: prepare you for some of the things you did go 140 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: through later on? I think, like I said before, just 141 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: coming from Baltimore, being exposed to so much at a 142 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: young age, like you know, being in the house full 143 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: of eighteen with eighteen people as uncles, cousins, mom's, boyfriends, aunties, 144 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: boy like, it was just you know, it was one 145 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: of those houses. Like when we lived in Emerson Village, 146 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: it was like remember that scene on Men, It's a 147 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: society and beginning to open the scene. I wouldn't say 148 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: kids was exposed all the way, but it was it 149 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: was close to that. Like you know what I'm saying. 150 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: We didn't know what was going on, but we knew, 151 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, being that I saw 152 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: so much and I was exposed to so much, I 153 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: had already been prepared mentally for inconsistencies in dealing with 154 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: things and dealing with people, dealing with certain and so 155 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: I didn't as I got older, I didn't like like 156 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: attach it to a reality my mind. It was like, Okay, 157 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: this is my reality, and the reality of the space 158 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: that I'm in is this, this and that, Like you 159 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, you have a house full 160 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: of eighteen people you grow up in in Baltimore. Shout 161 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: to Baltimore, by the way, total coincidence. I'm wearing a 162 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: white shirt. I see resting piece of the rest in peace. 163 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: But uh, you get on as a teenager, Yeah, I 164 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: mean you're like super on. You're like running one of 165 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: six in park, Like you're like the next R and 166 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: B sensation, Dude, the house full of eighteen people start 167 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: looking for you to like start handling some things as 168 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: far as bills or was it not? Never like that? Nah, 169 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't like that, bro. Like my family was very supportive. 170 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: I left Baltimore for like four years when I was 171 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: like fourteen, you know what I'm saying. So it was 172 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: more about who'd you go up to Jersey? Okay, Okay, 173 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was more about 174 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: like it was more about like missing my family and 175 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: just like them understand like that transition between me being 176 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: just Mario but like the Mario the artists, like you 177 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It wasn't like like that later 178 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: on it kind of in some cases, but like it was, 179 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: my family was never like like that. My family was 180 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: always supportive. My family's real, like real people, like you 181 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, you talk about how you 182 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: took like a four or five year break from music 183 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: as far as like just having that be like your 184 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: main focus. Yeah, I always think it's like you as 185 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't get enough flowers for just kind of 186 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: like your legacy, like some of the records you've put 187 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: out some of the bodies of work you've had, and 188 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: like just in general, do you feel like that four 189 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: to five years was necessary even though it might have 190 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: maybe hurt your place in the game. Yeah, definitely it 191 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: was necessary for me. It was necessary for my personal growth. Again, 192 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: it was also necessary for me to like not like 193 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: attach my value to success or whatever success is perceived 194 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: to be by people to be. You know, for me, 195 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: I redefine what success was for me. So success for 196 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: me was a healthy mind, a healthy spirit. You know 197 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Success is very subjective man, longevity, bro 198 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: let's be let's keep it a hondred. Like we live, 199 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, these lives. You know, we have twenty four 200 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: hours in a day. You know, when you become an artists, 201 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: there's so many other things that people don't realize, the 202 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: responsibilities and the stress that come with being an artist, 203 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: Like it really can take a toll on you. So 204 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: if you're not like preparing yourself for the next ten years, 205 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: then I don't think Like for me, I feel like 206 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: artists have to learn how to prepare themselves for the 207 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: next ten to fifteen years. Like, what's your retirement plan? 208 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: Like you feel me because like you know, this shit 209 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: music come and go. I've been blessed enough to come 210 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: out in a time where like music was really about classics. 211 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, this is true. People be like, yo, 212 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: you are you making a comebacks? Like, nah, it's not 213 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: really a comeback. Let me love you streams two million 214 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: times every day and a half. That's so crazy, you 215 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: feel me how to breathe? Like, my hits still go crazy, sure, 216 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: as if they just came out. So it's like for me, 217 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: it's just more of a rebranding thing than it is 218 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: a coming back thing. Yeah, I think like you said, man, 219 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: I think like when we think of success, like success 220 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: is defined it every everyone's personal like happiness. Yeah, life, 221 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: for sure, I'm not you know. I think that there's 222 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: like if you if you're if you're in the industry 223 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: and you're known for being an artist, there is definitely 224 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: certain milestone, certain milestones and certain things that comes with 225 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: Like somebody can view your success as an artist in 226 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: terms of the numbers and in terms of like there's 227 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: there's no you know, but in terms of like personal success, 228 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: that's that's something that you have to that has to 229 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: be your own personal virtue, you know what I'm saying. 230 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: But I think that success comes with happiness comes with success. 231 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: To me, it's like if I'm not happy, whether it's 232 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: a relationship, a business, working partnership, like if we're not 233 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: enjoying the process of this, and I think the pandemic 234 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: shure that's all that, Like, Yo, are you enjoying what 235 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: you do? Like who are you really outside of just 236 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: what the world knows you for or your public perception 237 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: of that way during the way, Yeah, you know, so, 238 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: so success has to go for me, true success has 239 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: to run hand in hand with happiness and peace and 240 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: enjoying what you're doing and enjoying the process whether you're 241 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: making money, are you Are you enjoying what you do 242 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: while you're making this bread? Like you know what I'm saying. 243 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: So music wise, now, you obviously put the new record 244 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: out with Chris, which is dope to see you guys 245 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: on because you guys kind of had like I guess, 246 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: kind of from the same era a bit, right, Yeah, 247 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean I came out a few years before. I'd 248 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: say you came out first, but like you know, kind 249 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: of you know, similar eras, Like I feel like what 250 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: also came. He is crazy because the first time I 251 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: ever seen him he came out on tour. I was 252 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: on tour with Beyonce and he came out on stage 253 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: and did I think he did run it? That sounds 254 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: about right, And I was like, Yo, this kid is 255 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: out of here, like he's a superstar. Like it was 256 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: just which Beyonce tour was at. It was Destiney Show Tour. 257 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: I forgot the name of it, but it was so 258 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: you were on tour with Destiny's Child World tour with 259 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: the world to it is crazy. I had to be wild. Wow. Bro, 260 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: So this is before Beyonce went solo every every continent. Basically, 261 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: this is pre Beyonce going so alone. Pretty crazy in 262 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: love Yeah oh wow. Yeah. So that was like that 263 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: was a special time people were forgetting Destiny's Child like 264 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: as a group and like how crazy they were, Like 265 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: it was they had a lot of hits and they 266 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: had a lot their fan base was just versatile and 267 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: just you know, I think they came out a time 268 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: where like girl groups and groups in general was still like, 269 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, popping, and it was it was important to 270 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: the culture. They were kind of like the last great 271 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: female group who really think about it, like when it 272 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: was like the last time there's been an amazing like 273 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: female R and B group that really like, I can't 274 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: really think of one bro like that. Nah. I feel 275 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: like they were the last of their they were kind 276 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, and even R and B groups in general, 277 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: and the last who everybody kind of branched off and 278 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: did their own thing and put out like actual independent 279 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: projects that had success too. You know. I just think 280 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: of like, you know, when I was a kid, it 281 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: was like Drew Hill, there was Jagged Edge, There's one twelve, 282 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: and like now I don't like, is there an R 283 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: and B group that I'm forgetting that? I'm just like, 284 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it's been so many like on and off. 285 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: But now as far as girl groups, I can't remember any. 286 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: Did you kind of did every one kind of know 287 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: when you were around Dusty Shop back then that Beyonce 288 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: was like, you know, okay, there's something special about of course, 289 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: be like, you know, she's of course, yeah, you know 290 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, she a superstar. She a virgo like me, 291 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: he shout out to the verb said Virgos do it 292 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: the best. Michael Jackson a lot of great Now, I 293 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: think I think it all goes back to work ethic 294 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: bro like she was. She was training Bread for it, 295 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: you know from from a young age. You know, think 296 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: about Michael like he was training Bread for it. You 297 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: know what you focus your attention and awareness on. It's 298 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: going to continue to to to magnify, you know what 299 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and be more magnetic, so in polarizing. So 300 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy because I think when I think 301 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: of BT and one O six in Park, I think 302 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: of you, I think of bow Wow, I think of 303 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: a few artists. Do you remember the first time you 304 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: went on One of six and Park and like who 305 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: was hosting? Yeah, A J and Free was hosting. That's 306 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: the see that's the ogs, Like AG and Free is like, 307 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: that's how I remember One O six in Park. There 308 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: were so many other you know, incarnations of the hosts 309 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: of the show, but AJ and Free were the ones, 310 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: the original, you know, they the original man in the 311 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: in the whole team over there. Like I see some 312 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: of them still on different production sets, movie sets, war shows. 313 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: You know, everybody still It's crazy. You see people AJ's 314 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: on like Entertainment tonight. At least he was like I'd 315 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: be like Entertainment tonight was I'm like, yeah, I don't 316 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: watch a lot of TV, so with no but yeah, 317 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: Ag always was doing his thing. Yeah no, that's crazy man. 318 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah that's so. Do you remember how many times you 319 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: actually ended up going because you know you were on 320 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: there a lot. I can't remember offhand, but like I 321 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: would say probably least like ten times or more. That's huge, 322 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: ten times that many. Still, I think I think we 323 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: definitely got to bring something like that back. I think 324 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: the Call to You Will Miss I think YouTube kind 325 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: of killed the Video Show, if that makes sense, because 326 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: I think they've tried to bring back t r L 327 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: before and it just didn't. I just think you think, 328 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: I think the digital Crusade in general did it. Yeah. 329 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: Like it's like, so there's so people creating their own 330 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: podcast on this, they on that that is like it's 331 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: just some go where they want to get there. It's 332 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: it's a different It's definitely just everything's just different. Like 333 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm working on something crazy in that space kind of 334 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: but bigger right now. I can't talk about it all 335 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: the way, but it's gonna be it's gonna be super crazy. 336 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: Like I'm working on some cool stuff. Would you ever 337 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: do like a show like the Mass Singer if they 338 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: asked you, yeah, I'll do that for fun for sure. 339 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: The Mass SERI has been kind of lit, low key. 340 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: I do that for fun. It's like certain people like 341 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: Whiz was on there. I want to say, Tiger was 342 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: on there. Obviously Tiger did it? Did it? That's great? 343 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: T Paying one, t pain one, Yeah did Yeah. I 344 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: would definitely do it because I think it's I think 345 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: it's because I would be able to show people like 346 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: the other sides of my voice, the other textures and 347 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: tones that I because it's like R and B is 348 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: like I haven't even people haven't even touched, like seen 349 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: or experienced like the magnitude of where I can go vocally. 350 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: So that's definitely one that I would do. Like, how 351 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: do you feel about the current state of R and B, 352 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: Because it's definitely a lot different than ten to fifteen 353 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: years ago as far as just like you know, I 354 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: feel like I feel like R and B has changed 355 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: so much, even just like you know, we talked about 356 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: the digital era, I feel like artists are so like 357 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: they have to be more transparent now as to where 358 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: maybe when you know I was a kid and you 359 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: were a kid. You know, every R and B artist 360 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: had this like image, right, they were like sex symbols. 361 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: They had polish. It was very polished. Nowadays it's like 362 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: you could just be a normal dude and like the 363 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: fans almost like that more now, Yes, I think it's 364 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: getting back to no point, it's in it. It's getting 365 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: back to the rawness and connecting with your fans and 366 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: connecting with people and jamming, you know what I'm saying, 367 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: jam sessions. Getting back to just you know, working with 368 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: people that you vibe with on a creative level and 369 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: making music that you love and hopefully having a label 370 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: that supports that. Do you like it? Do you like 371 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: the artist? Now? I think the hardest part about it 372 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: is finding a machine that's willing to get behind, even 373 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: if it's independent, because independents are now like the new labels, 374 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, like the process, you 375 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, getting them to also believe in 376 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: like because it's so much in the marketplace, you know, 377 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: so rmb tends to take longer to built, you know, 378 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: unless you're just one of those phenomenons like a Russ 379 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: who like figure out how to you know, do your 380 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: well you know, Yeah, what Rust did is what I 381 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: just advise a lot of artists to do. It's like, 382 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: just keep putting up shots, especially if you're independent. Yes, 383 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: but you gotta understand that's a psychological part that comes 384 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: with that. And sorry, I'm moving around a lot. You're 385 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: like very like it. It's a psychological part that comes 386 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: with doing that. Like when you're when you're trained to okay, 387 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: one single here and then album, like you gotta like 388 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: retrain yourself. I've been retraining myself because you're thinking, like, Okay, 389 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: I got a song, we got to make sure there's 390 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: a budget behind it, the video, Bro, the vergo, like, 391 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: I think so meticulously my they'd be like, Bro, you 392 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: over think. I'm very like the colors that this got 393 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: a master. Even when I did my independent project, I 394 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: was shooting my videos, I was doing I was so 395 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: meticulous versus just throwing out music and just seeing what stick. 396 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I'm training myself to 397 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: kind of find a balance between being overly creative and like, 398 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, everything's got to be perfect to just yo, 399 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: do what you love. Are you currently independent? Yeah? Okay, 400 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: that's a good place. I got a partnership, so me, 401 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: Dre London, great guy, he's a maniac. I know that guy. 402 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: Shout out to my manager Andy. You know, we you know, 403 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: we just we partnering it and we got a lot 404 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: of great things on the way, you know. I think 405 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: it's done a really good job of being like kind 406 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: of like a traditional R and B artist, but also 407 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: adapting to the way people can sue music. As Eric Bellinger, Yeah, 408 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: because Serk has has he's got so much catalog. Yeah, 409 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's putting out two albums a year. Yeah, 410 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: And I think that's smart for him, though, I think 411 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: I think it's it's very it's very like, you know, 412 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: he's like one of the guys who I see who's 413 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: like a traditional R and B artist that could have 414 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: existed in two thousand and three for sure, and has 415 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: figured out kind of like how to do it independently 416 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: in a way that like, you know, just keep putting 417 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: up put He's just feeding his fan base, you know, 418 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: for sure. That's that's the I think like for artists 419 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: who came out in this particular error, I think it's smart. 420 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: For me, it's more about like still making classic records, 421 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: even if it's you know, it's like it's like it 422 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: still has to have a certain energy and vibe to 423 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: its whereas though it stands out from everything else. You 424 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm not just like throwing anything 425 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: against the against the board. I don't have an enemy 426 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: to do that. But I definitely will say to the 427 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: fans out there watching, see the people out there, like 428 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: this is probably gonna be the most music but within 429 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: this next two years that I put out in a 430 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: long time, that's actually quality of music. Have you? You 431 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 1: know what was dope about the pandemic is we get 432 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: all these verses battles. Yeah, and the Scott Storch one. 433 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: You know, he had to bust out there and let 434 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: me love you, yes sir, remind people, uh you and 435 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: Storch get back. I mean Storch is super active right now. 436 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: He's doing the simmon thing. We definitely we wrap it up. 437 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: We've been chopping it up, so it's always it's always 438 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: a time and the energy thing. It's gonna be crazy. 439 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: I actually got a record that I want him to 440 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: do some production on. It's already written. Fire got a 441 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: feature on the Fire. But I just hear his touch. Man, 442 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: he's Scott is one of the most prolific producers. He 443 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: really understands musicality and he just he gets it. Bro, 444 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: he's talent. You you can't take you During the Let 445 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: Me Love You air, did you like ever go party 446 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: with him? 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Also shout out to Scott who's totally clean now. 491 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: He's got a drug rehabby Cones with Steve Lobell. He's 492 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: doing some great thing, doing his thing, doing his thing, 493 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: great things, and he's just a great dude, man, great father, amazing, 494 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,239 Speaker 1: amazing guy. Yes, So you say you're putting on more 495 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: music in the next two and you've ever put out? 496 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Is this like, do you already have like a body 497 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: of work put together? Are you still are you just 498 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: constantly recording? Like? Nah, constantly? Well, I wouldn't say constantly. 499 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm very I don't just record just to record. It's 500 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: an energy thing for me. When I go in the studio, 501 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: it's like while it depends on who I'm working with. 502 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: Like sometimes I work with writers and I'm like, we vibe, 503 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna go ahead and get this producer to 504 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: come in, this producer come in, and you know, we 505 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: just go in and go crazy on some you know 506 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: what I mean, on records because the vibe is there. 507 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: If the ViBe's on there, we just cool, we kick 508 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: it whatever, whatever. So I'm just finding out out who 509 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: speaks my language right now, you know what I'm saying, 510 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: who how we can affect the culture together there it is. 511 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: We were talking about The Wire a bit. I got 512 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: the Wire shirt on. When you watch The Wire, did 513 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: you ever Obviously, being from Baltimore, that show was probably 514 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: came out right around the time you probably started to 515 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: Like I don't remember the year came out, but I 516 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: do remember, like when I first saw it, I'm like, Yo, 517 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: this is how realistic was it to the city, Like, 518 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: because I've heard a lot of people say it was 519 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: pretty spot on. It's bro it was really on, man. 520 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: Baltimore is a super raw city. Like, you know, what 521 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: you see is what you get, you know what I mean, 522 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: And if you go deeper into it, you're gonna see 523 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's like so many different levels to it, 524 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: but like it was definitely spot on, you know, from 525 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: what I've experienced on what I've seen in my life 526 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: growing up characters, you know, the Yeah, it was in 527 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: the city, bro, it was looking black. It was all 528 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: of the houses I'll see, Like it's a lot of 529 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: the actors too, were just like just they found them 530 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, like Snoop. Snoop was just in Baltimore. Like 531 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: it was real, man, it was real. It was one 532 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: of the best depictions of like if you're shooting that 533 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: side of it. I think there's a lot about Baltimore 534 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: that hasn't been shown though, you know what I'm saying 535 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: from the maybe the positives, the positive aspects, the politics, 536 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: how it's grown. You know, I'm working on some projects 537 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: there right now too, to like bridge music, intellect and 538 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: mental health. So yeah, man, it's gonna be passionate about 539 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: about making sure you make your impact back home. I am. 540 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I've done enough enough to be honest, right. Yeah. 541 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: So this year next year, like that was just my 542 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: main focus on outside of just like music stuff and 543 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: business stuff. How did you end up linking up with 544 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: Dre London? For people who don't know, Dre's a fucking 545 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: mogo in the business. But he also you know, I've 546 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: known Dres since twenty fourteen. Yeah, but he works with 547 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: post Malone, you know, he's yeah, he manages post Malone. Yeah, 548 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: he's a great business dude. Like I've met Dre through 549 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: through my manager Andy, who I've known for like thirteen years. 550 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: We've been homees for years and he's been doing his thing, 551 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: and you know, it was just a conversation bro about music, 552 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: about culture, about you know, about black music, and uh, 553 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: it was a note bringer. You know, we just we 554 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: got the same vision when it comes to like, you know, 555 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: how to impact the culture from an R and B standpoint, 556 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: and also me just stepping back into my my independency, 557 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: but also doing it with people who've done it on 558 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: a certain level. I've done it on a certain level already, 559 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: so I have to work with people who understand that, 560 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: but who also understands the boss part of it, in 561 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: the independent part of it. You know, it's a lot 562 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: more responsibility when you're independent artist. As you know, it's 563 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: crazy because you know, with what you went through with 564 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: your mom obviously passing away. I feel like today there's 565 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: a lot of kids who are probably going through that 566 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: specific ordeal because of just the where the world is 567 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: with opiates and fetanol and like, there's a lot of 568 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: kids who are dealing with their parents that are addicted 569 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: or dealing with losing their parents to overdoses. What would 570 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: be some advice You've lived it and unfortunately, obviously the 571 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: absolute worst thing came true for you, but you got 572 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: through it. You're here today. What would be some advice 573 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: for someone watching this who might be dealing with someone 574 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: who they loved that's going through something like that that 575 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: you could give them that maybe you know, you lived 576 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: it for them, kind of counselor talk to somebody, you know. 577 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: I wish I would have started sooner. I just actually 578 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: started mental health counseling, childhood trauma counselor, and I'm okay 579 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: speaking about it because it's something that you know, when 580 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: you're a strong person and you're able to take the 581 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: world on your shoulders and perform under pressure, oftentimes you 582 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: train yourself to think that you don't need, you know, counselor, 583 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: you don't need to talk about things that really bother you. 584 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: Like it isn't until something really triggers you that you 585 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: realize you ain't here. And I've had those instances in 586 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: my life and I've ruined relationships because of those types 587 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: of things. So I was like, you know what, let 588 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: me do this for myself so that you know, I 589 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: can have a family one day, so that I can 590 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: be a father one day, so that I can be 591 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: a better brother, so I can be a better friend. 592 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. It affects every part 593 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: of your life as you get over older, because those 594 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: things don't just leave, you know. For me, it was 595 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: definitely a driving force. It taught me how to be numb. 596 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: It taught me how to be perfectionist. It taught me 597 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: how to just focus on work, work, work, but it 598 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: didn't teach me how to heal. So I had to 599 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: take that upon myself. So I would say, man, mental 600 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: health is a real thing, and it needs to be 601 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, if you know and you're dealing with something 602 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: and something's bothering you, you get triggered and you see 603 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: yourself being affected by this specific space in your life, 604 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: then you got to talk about it. You gotta get helpful. Yeah, 605 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: I think it's important for you to talk about that 606 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: because it lifts the stigma. And I think that the 607 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: stigma started to get lifted. But like when you're somebody 608 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: who is the head of the household, who so many 609 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: people depend on, you're a leader in your in your group, 610 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: your life, it's like who do you talk to? Right? Like? 611 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: Who you got to be? Somebody trust? You got to 612 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: be somebody you trust, trusted source, and you gotta feel comfortable. 613 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: But definitely don't push it under the rug. You know, 614 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: you can't force someone to stop using. You can't force 615 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, someone to see how they hurting you. Sometimes 616 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: they don't know because there is a disease. You know, 617 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: Addiction is a disease man, And it's like it's it's 618 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: something that that attacks people physically and spiritually. So it's 619 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: a it's a large karmic part of it that comes 620 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: with It's so much spiritually that comes with it. You 621 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: know that if you're if you you love somebody or 622 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: you're close to somebody that's experiencing that, it's important for 623 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: you to also, you know, get help for yourself while 624 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: you're still loving them through whatever they're going through. That's 625 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: that's right, man. Yeah, sure you said you were working 626 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: on the video for this Chris Brown record. Yes, sir, 627 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: are we getting all the details together now? You know? 628 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: And Andy they're chopping it up, getting the getting it right. 629 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: How many do you have the next thing already ready? 630 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: Or you just think I got it? I think so yeah, 631 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: I think I got it? Okay, So who have you been? 632 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: You don't tell us who you got songs with? It, 633 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: just who you've been working with, Like who you've been 634 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: in the studio hanging out with maybe of course my 635 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: bro a one and then you know me in London 636 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: about to get in learning on the track, so that's 637 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: going to be a movie. Hasn't been working with d Mile? 638 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I would just say those are d Mile 639 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: of London on the track, Like those are the two 640 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: producers I'm really excited about. Like working with D Mile 641 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: is just a genius. Man. He's just a musical genius, 642 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: and he really loves music, and he really loves storytelling 643 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: and he really loved just like creating, you know what 644 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So he's somebody always wanted to work with 645 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: and I feel like he just he gets music in 646 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: a way where he's like a quincy where he could 647 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: work with you this artist and that artist and give 648 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: y'all all three what's specifically for you? You know what 649 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying in a space where it's also classic and relevant. 650 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: It's crazy because London has kind of been the architect 651 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: of like some of the R and B that we 652 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: still kind of like, oh, this is actual R and B, 653 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: which is obviously Summer walker you know Summer Walkers. Yeah, yeah, 654 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: London is crazy, or some of the R and B 655 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: acts that are new or that like inspire you or 656 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: that you're just like, yeah, this is this is some 657 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: like this is some shit. I can actually really the 658 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: fuck man. Lucky Day Bro, Lucky Lucky's fire. I say Lucky, 659 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: I would say I like siss a lot. I don't 660 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: know if y'all still consider consider her new, but I 661 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: think female artists wise her paying she's crazy. I like 662 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: Queen Naja. I got a crazy record with her. Oh fire, Yeah, 663 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: she just put out a new record that's crazy. Shout 664 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: out to her. She's shout out. Shout out to the Queen. 665 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: Victoria Monet. Been knowing Victoria for years. She's an incredible right, 666 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: incredible artist, incredible visionary when it comes to creativity. Who 667 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: else It's a few yeah, bread Fires is not too 668 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: far from you. Blast Blast. Todd Dollars is still one 669 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: of my favorite you know, got something crazy on his project. 670 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: Coming ties of prolific artists. I feel like we don't 671 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: give tied into flowers. I'm like, bro, this tie is 672 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: a fucking he's him, he's him, dunk he really he 673 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: really wanted them guys. Man. Yeah, shout out to you 674 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: got something with on tis new album. Yeah, yeah, we 675 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: got it crazy and hopefully and make it on the project. 676 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: It's this crazy joint. Okay, it's gonna be a good 677 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: year for R and B for sure. We got stuff 678 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: the podcast, man, real quick. 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All together at checkout twenty percent off 699 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: odd Sosofficial dot com. Go show us some love and 700 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: let's get back to the interview. Have you gotten in 701 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: or hung out with postmal nitals? Obviously now that you 702 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: guys have dre's like a comedy. Yeah, we hung We 703 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: definitely hung man. We definitely a different guy to kick 704 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: it with. Huh bud light, cool bud light. He's been 705 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: Did you play beer pong? Nah? No? Nah's he being 706 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: his own man. He's a man, good energy, but no 707 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: for sure he's the best man and he's still humble 708 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: as fuck too. It's crazy you wouldn't even be like, Yo, 709 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: you're the biggest streaming artists in the world. But I 710 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: think that's what it is though. Man, When you vibrate 711 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: on a certain level, it's like you're grateful for your accomplishment, 712 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: but you're likely literally living in the moment. Bro. It's 713 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: the best feeling ever. That's like, the greatest feeling ever 714 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: is being able to live in a moment and truly 715 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: enjoy what you're creating and the energy that you're cultivating 716 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: and like the people you like. That's what it's about 717 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: for me now. It's like we all enjoying this process 718 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: because I know we're gonna get to where we're trying 719 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: to go because we're focusing. We all great, but we 720 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: enjoying it. Bro, are you enjoying it? You know what 721 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You say you don't watch a lot of TV. 722 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: What are you doing in your spare time? What are 723 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: your hobbies like? If you're not recording, if you're not 724 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: being an artist, what do you do? Man? I want 725 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: my dogs, uh, literal literal dogs. I got two pits. Okay, 726 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, uh, traveling, writing my book, uh, 727 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: creating other business opportunities. I'm working on some things in 728 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: the NFT space as well. Oh, I just saw you 729 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: posted that NFT thing. But but not like on some 730 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: like quick money grab shit, like really on some I'm 731 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: creating the projects that I'm really passionate about. And then 732 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: man business, other business adventures that I have. Like so, 733 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 1: I saw you just posted one of the monkey things. 734 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: Does that a trillionaire or some shit? I don't fun, 735 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, there's so many different lot of I don't 736 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: know what's going on anymore. I'm totally hip to that. 737 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: It was a gift. I'm not hip to that space whatsoever. 738 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's you know what it's. It's a 739 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: if you're if you like art. I like art, like 740 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: I collect art, so I have art in the house, 741 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: physical art. But like, if you are into art and 742 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: you're into storytelling, I think NFTs can be a fun investment, 743 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, if you want to just do like quick 744 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: flips and stuff, he's definitely got to learn about it, right. 745 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: If you have a storytelling and you're into art, I 746 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: love you throw the oculus on and look at your 747 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: NFTs that way. I don't funk with the oculus I have. 748 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: I don't even have one. Oh you don't have one. 749 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: I don't have. Pretty crazy the oculus is, uh yeah, 750 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: I could see you ever see the movie Ready Player one? Oh? 751 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: You got to see it? Crazy, it's the oculus is. 752 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: I could see people getting like sucked into that ship 753 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: just like never coming back. Wow. It's like you put 754 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: that ship on and you're just in another world like 755 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: virtual reality. Yeah, but it's like you could like you 756 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: choose what kind of house you live in, Like I mean, 757 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: I think I think it's cool in moderation, you know 758 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, in moderation. And that's the key, because 759 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: I could see some some I don't know, man, imagine 760 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: like when they have called speaking bro, like all right, 761 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: that's cool. Like I think stuff like Instagram and some 762 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: of these other things are just as bad, bro, if 763 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: you do it too much, you know what I'm saying, Like, 764 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: if you're like it's so easy to spend so much 765 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: time and wait so much, specially TikTok. I think TikTok 766 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: is the one app that people been sucked into just 767 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: this swiping that algorithm just feeds you shit, it's hard 768 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: to put your phone down. It's all about balance, man, 769 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: you know. I think right now we're at the end 770 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: of the era going into a new era, you know 771 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: what I'm saying on so many different fronts, you know, 772 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: from economically, socially, spiritually, energetically. You know, right now there 773 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: are things being set in place that's going to affect 774 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: the next thirty forty years facts. So I think it's 775 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: really weird because, like, as a conscious person, I'm looking 776 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: at both sides. We're both very much so unaware as 777 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: we are aware of what's happening. Yeah, it's kind of 778 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: like every day you're giving the red pill with a 779 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: blue pill, and like some days you take the blue pill, 780 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: some days you take the red pill. But at the 781 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: end of the day, it all comes back down to 782 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: survival because that's the two things that that are people 783 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: are ran by. I think we're gonna look at that 784 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: like survival and like now and be like that was 785 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: like a really crazy time where the world was changing 786 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: and like we kind of knew it, but we also 787 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: didn't really realize how much it was changing exactly. Kind 788 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: of like when the Internet first came out like ninety 789 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: six exactly. It's like kind of like where we are 790 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: right now exactly, and there's like so many different ways. 791 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: Like you're like, oh shit, the world's changing, and that 792 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 1: means there's ways to make money, but then there's also 793 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: ways to lose a lot of fucking money, because if 794 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: you don't know what the fuck you're doing in this 795 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: web three point zero, in this metaverse, you might fucking 796 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: end up. There's been so many scams and all kinds 797 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: of crazy on. It's a lot of stuff. Man. You 798 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: got to connect with people who are really passionate about 799 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: what they're doing and who really think about the long 800 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: term thing. But what I was trying to say is 801 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 1: that in general, it's just like right now is the 802 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: time to invest in yourself the most. I feel like 803 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: that means making sure that you spend time out of 804 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: your day getting to know who you are, getting to 805 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: know what your strengths are, what your weaknesses are, maybe 806 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: some gifts that you haven't discovered, you know, because you 807 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: want to make sure that you are a well rounded person. 808 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's unlimited. What you can 809 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: do is unlimited. So it's just a matter of making 810 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: sure you're a well rounded person, or you know yourself 811 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: and you're not driven by the outside world too much. 812 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: It's very hard because it's so easy. It's also very 813 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: hard to disconnect from like the ground seats yourself. Oh yeah, yeah, 814 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: for sure. Everyone's always just working, work and work and working. 815 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: You know. I feel like it's hard to just disconnect 816 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: and decompress. Like but in order for you to actually, 817 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, for me, in order for me to 818 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: see what I'm actually doing, sometimes I gotta take a 819 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: step back and look at everything, like, okay, three months 820 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: from now, I got to look at the contacts, the relationships, 821 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: the people who I've invited into my I'm doing step back, 822 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: How is that what? Because sometimes you could just be 823 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: moving and moving and moving, and then other things that 824 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: can be shifting your trajectory of where you started or 825 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: what your original vision. So sometimes you gotta step back 826 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: and look at the progress and give yourself time to 827 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: see the progress. Like all right, cool, Like we're still 828 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: on the track, you know what I'm saying. Like, I 829 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's just because it's so easy 830 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: to just especially living out here, It's like you know, 831 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: la is it's always the grind and always. I ain't 832 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: say it on grind. You gotta hustle. You know, if 833 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: somebody tell you don't get no money, get away from them. Yeah, 834 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: because we gotta survive for sure. But it's definitely like 835 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: living in La is like you're always on your toes here, 836 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. It's like, you know, it's like 837 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, it's like, Okay, I'm gonna go out 838 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: to eat. Well, shit, I'm in LA so I can't 839 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: just go out to eat. I gotta put something on. 840 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: I gotta you know what I'm saying. It's like there's 841 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: so much that goes into just I mean, I think 842 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: it's less. I feel like it was crazy like that 843 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: before the pandemic, like everything had to be But now 844 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: it's like I think people have relaxed a little bit 845 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: when it comes today ego in certain ways, and also 846 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: the pandemic checked a lot of people's a lot of 847 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: people were struggling. It's like, you know, yeah, got real, 848 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: so you're yo, let me love you you say. Uh. 849 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: We just had a an artist named Kyle on the 850 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: show recently, you know, super Duper Kyle. He had a 851 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: song I Spy Yeah yeah, so he uh he was 852 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: talking about how he has a song called I Spy 853 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: which is about to be diamond, right. He's like, he's like, 854 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: that's a I think it's eight times platinum. He's like, uh, 855 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: this song has changed my life financially. It's got me 856 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: in a place where, like, you know, yeah, it's so 857 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: it's so big that I could kind of do what 858 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: I want now. That's that's a gift and a curse. 859 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: But it's also like he's also the I Spy guy. 860 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: Now you're not You're not to let me love you guy, 861 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: but let Me Love You is one of those songs 862 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: that is so massive, between the remix the original, it 863 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: is one of the most iconic R and B songs 864 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: of all fucking time. Yeah, what is the first part 865 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: of that for you? Because we know what the gift is. 866 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: I think the curst part of it is easy. It's just, 867 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, having that level of success again with another 868 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: record because I was so young when it happened, and 869 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: it's like, I haven't had another record that big, even 870 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: though I've had other hits right since that record, you know, 871 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 1: And I think that's the curse. But I think every 872 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: artist has, well not every artist, Some artists got eighteen 873 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: twenty number ones. Right, But that's you know, if you're 874 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: so lucky to have that and to have that type 875 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: of system, Man, God bless you, that's amazing, you know. 876 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: But I think that's the curse, man, Just like trying 877 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,479 Speaker 1: to trying to beat it out, you know what I'm saying, 878 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: trying to are you with another like obviously every time? 879 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's the fucking your biggest record. 880 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 1: Are you tired of performing it? After all these years? 881 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: I feel like sometime I'm gonna get tired of performing it, 882 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: And then when I perform it it feels like the 883 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: first time every time. It's but it's because of the fans, man, 884 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: It's because of the people. It's because of them. It's 885 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: like when you're on stage and you see like it's 886 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: a connection, bro, because you just records. They they they're 887 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: like they're like time in the flesh, bro. Like this 888 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: this is like, I feel like recorded sound is time 889 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: in the flesh. You literally trap some time into a 890 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: sound and you're able to relive it over and over 891 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: and over and over again. So in some cases, yes, 892 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: it could feel as if you're not moving forward. But 893 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: when you see a record transcend so many generations. And 894 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: you see, like I see tiktoks of like babies or 895 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: like toddlers singing let me love you. I'm just like 896 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: Bro today. Yeah, of course, such a blessing man. It's 897 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: obviously the first record I'd ever heard of. Yours was 898 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: Just a Friend, which sampled Bismarcky BISMARKI recently passed away 899 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: Rest in Peace man. Yeah, as a young kid, like, 900 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,720 Speaker 1: what was it like, you know, connecting with Biz sampling 901 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: his I mean, did you know much about Biz before 902 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: he ended up cutting that record? Like, what was what 903 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,720 Speaker 1: was he like as a dude? Shout out to Warren Campbell, 904 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: my brother, hell lily man Biz. He really I feel 905 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: like anybody who meet him or feel like he liked 906 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 1: they uncle, Like he was very much so expressive, very thoughtful. 907 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: He didn't hold his tongue, you know what I'm saying. 908 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: If he saw something, he had always hit me to 909 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 1: check up on me, like even if we talk for years. 910 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: I see him out at an event, it was always love. 911 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: When I was on tour last so at the Millennial 912 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: Toy he came out at my bottom one show, Oh 913 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: do he surprised me and pulled up like, man, just 914 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: a good dude, good dude indeed, Yeah, good dude. All right, 915 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: So we got more music coming this year, definitely more 916 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: music film stuff as well, you know a lot of 917 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: great Yeah. Well, I don't know if I'm gonna put 918 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: that out this year. Man, I'm really taking my time 919 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: with it, but it's definitely coming for sure. But tour, 920 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: just more more sauce. Man, what's the tour? Talk about 921 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: the tour? What what are you doing with the tour? Well, 922 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: we're planning it, you know, we're planning it for like 923 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: probably later this year. It's it gonna be you and 924 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: like some other people hopefully. Yeah, that's the plan to 925 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: put a nice package together, like you know, that makes sense. 926 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: So I just put it out there, like you know 927 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like tour, more music and 928 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: just more me man, more more Mario for the fans, 929 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 1: for the people, like just you know, putting a stamp 930 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: on R and B where it need to be and 931 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: continue to do carry my carry my legacy on