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They're very good thank you. 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 4: These are these aren't like your typical run of the 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 4: mill now, like this is like like the real deal, 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 4: Like she's a real, legitimate baker. 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: Looks good, it looks professional, pass super moist on the 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: inside too. They're almost kind of like cake pucks. 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 5: If you she can't help it, you can't. 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: That's why she had cake should be moist on the inside, 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: a nice and crunchy on the outside. 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: Huh did you just say did you bite something? 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: She did? Oh? God, I mean these are these are impressive? Patty? 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: How long? And what was the reason for all these? Oh? 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: So well she made him because it's actually my sister's 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: birthday today. So happy Birthdaysmantha. Oh, happy birthday. Happy birthday, Samantha. 37 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, what of sam Happy birthday? 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: Yeah so awesome. Well take that home to the fan. 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 4: But no, those are great your mom's and your mom's 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 4: a great, great baker. 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All Right, So I'd almost 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: forgotten about this because of how good he's been still 51 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 4: and just all the chaos that's gone on with JJ 52 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: Reddick and the Lakers, and even though you know, they 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 4: lost Sniper, they've been really, really good lately. Luke has 54 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 4: been on a tear. But I had forgotten that the 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 4: Lakers really try hard to bring in Danny Hurley, like 56 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: really really tried, and there was a lot of conversation 57 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: about it felt like it was actually going to happen. 58 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: And I think the reported number was six years, seventy 59 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 4: million dollars. And so with Michigan State and Yukon playing 60 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: in the tournament coming up this weekend in the Sweet sixteen, 61 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: Tom Izzo, who's the coach from Michigan State, spoke about 62 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 4: Hurley reaching out to him for advice because tom Izzo 63 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: has been rumored for years about you know, is he 64 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 4: going to make the jump? 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Is he going to go there? 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 4: And you know, much like coach k he never did, 67 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: Patino did, Calipari did a lot of the greats in 68 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 4: college basketball at least took a shot at it. 69 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: It didn't work out. 70 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 4: Tom Izzo never did, and so he said that Danny 71 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: Hurley reached out to him, and he told the Associated 72 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: Press quote, I told Herley to seriously look at it 73 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 4: because I could see where college basketball was going. But 74 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 4: I said I would hate to lose him because I 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: think he is at all the right. He's all that 76 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: is right about college basketball. He cares about the kids, 77 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 4: he cares about the game. He has to care about 78 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: the game because of his dad. And I look at 79 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: that and I go, now that we know what we 80 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: know about what that job is with the Lakers and 81 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: what Danny Hurley is as a coach, that. 82 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: Just wouldn't have gone well. 83 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 4: That's he just strayed. That just seemingly would not have 84 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: gone well had he ended up with the Lakers. And 85 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 4: it was probably the best move for him to stay 86 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: exactly where he's at, continue to have success, and he 87 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 4: finds his team making a deep run in the tournament. 88 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: Yet again, do you think he just you know, didn't 89 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: want to have to have him this competition. 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: Maybe that was it too, you think Tom Izzo wanted 91 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: him out. 92 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. 93 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 5: I mean, it's like you got some competition in there, 94 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 5: why not trying to go to the next level off 95 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 5: to deal with this guy. 96 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: I wonder, though, how many Izzo I think I think 97 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 1: Izzo is he's he's an o og, he'd triple og. 98 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he would give him that advice to 99 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: to avoid the smoke. 100 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: But it's kind of similar to what we've heard other 101 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: coaches say. You know, when you know where college is heading, 102 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 4: maybe there's certain guys that just aren't into the new 103 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: version of college football or college sports with nil and 104 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: everything else introduced. Davo Swinney's been vocal about it. Nick 105 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: Saban just got out completely. Halfley just left college and 106 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 4: want to be a coordinator. And there's been others that 107 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 4: have done the Chip Kelly, there's been others that have 108 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 4: done the same thing. I just wonder how much of 109 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: the conversation and the decision making, not that it's it 110 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 4: wasn't always important, how much of it isn't these guys saying, 111 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 4: all right, well, how much am I going to get paid? 112 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 4: Because if I'm making this move, I want to know 113 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: that I'm going to be set up for life, because 114 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: if it goes poorly. 115 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: Then I mean they've already made enough money to be 116 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: set up for life, right Like they've already had enough success. 117 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: Hurley's already had enough success where the contracts that he 118 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: currently contract he currently has, he's good. So I don't 119 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: look at it from the state point of how much 120 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: are you set up for life? I think you're looking 121 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: at it from the standpoint of Coaching is a very 122 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: turbulent and volatile profession to be in, and the one 123 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: thing that's certain for any coach, in all coaches is 124 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: that you will eventually be let go or have to 125 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: step away from your job. That is imminent in the 126 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: coaching profession. So when you look at weighing out options, 127 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: if I'm going to weigh out an option in the 128 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: same category like okay, I'm looking at like what Cali 129 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: Perry did. Like okay, Cali Perry goes from which he 130 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: has gone to the league, but you know, you go 131 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: from from college to college. I'm weighing out and I'm 132 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: probably measuring the variables of what I have to be 133 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: successful and how long can I sustain success here and 134 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: do I position myself to be able to have this 135 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: same conversation and deductive reasoning moving forward with my career. 136 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: You do that with the pros, but there's different there's 137 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: different criteria that you're measuring out. If you're able to 138 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: have success at the pro level at college, you have 139 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: to recruit. You have to not only recruit the players, 140 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: do you have to recruit the families. That is a 141 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: major when you talk to coaches from the college versus pros, 142 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: that is a major piece of it. Some coaches love recruiting, 143 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: They love being on the road, They love getting out 144 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: and talking to parents and being in the communities and 145 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: talking to the players. Some coaches don't like it at all. 146 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: And so if you do the pro route, it's very different. 147 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: It's more cut and dry, and it has set up 148 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: different because you're dealing with what is perceived to be 149 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: professionals and adults. So I think when you're weighing out 150 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: what your authoritative level is and what you're going to 151 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: be able to do and build out culturally speaking, it's 152 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 1: probably you have to measure out which one you feel 153 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: more comfortable building it is it is it more younger 154 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: guys or is it is it more established older guys? 155 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: And I think that plays a large part in it. 156 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wonder how much, because back in the 157 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: day it would just be your your typical standard recruiting 158 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: and whatever other Shenanians were going on the side, and 159 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 4: now it's just that the what what they're having to 160 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: deal with at the college level. I how I look 161 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 4: at Dabos twenty how long you think Dabos Sweeny's got 162 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: before he's like, I got to get out of here. 163 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: Oh that was this year. Yeah, that was this year. Yeah, 164 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: he's kind of see them against Penn State and the 165 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: Pinstripe Bowl. 166 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: He's fine, He's fine, Everything's fine, He'll. 167 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: Be fine, Okay. 168 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: I mean it seems like he's pretty vocal about his 169 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: displeasures when it comes to college and. 170 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 2: I yeah, but there's there's two ways of looking at it. 171 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: If you're in his shoes, you can complain. 172 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 5: About it, or you can use it to your advantage 173 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 5: for the time being, or it can be part of 174 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 5: the change. 175 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: So that would be my. 176 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 5: Thoughts on him, just only because if you're not able 177 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 5: to excel in this era, then put forth more effort 178 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 5: of putting together groups or figuring out who needs to 179 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 5: lobby the government or whatever. The solution is because it 180 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 5: doesn't feel like anyone has a solution. So if that's 181 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 5: the case, you got to stop complaining about it and 182 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: just play within the rules that are currently given. 183 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would certainly agree. I would certainly agree 184 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: with that. It's difficult. But like you said, the things 185 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: that you would be complaining about, if that's what has 186 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: seemingly built up what could potentially be your demise, then 187 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: there's the adaption and the adjustment. Either you adapt it 188 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: and you adjust, or you die. Like that's evolution, that's 189 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: that's us as mankind. You got to adapt and you 190 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: have to adjust. So whatever it is that he's seeing, like, 191 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: like you said, be the change of it, Be a 192 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: part of figuring out how there's better structure or you know, 193 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: better rules and play like, play a part and be 194 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: a part of the solution. That's if you have enough 195 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: energy to do it, you know, and and if it 196 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: matters enough to you in terms of what you have 197 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: to do in your approach to being able to maintain 198 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: getting you know, elite players. Oh Tom Iso seventy one. God, 199 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: he's been doing this a long time. 200 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: Man. 201 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 4: He's been at Michigan State since ninety five. He's just 202 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: got the he's just got the one title back in 203 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: two thousand. 204 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: Crazys and Morris Richardson who else was on that team? 205 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: But that was that was a pretty loaded Michigan State team. 206 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Not one it all? Jason Richardson Maurice what is isn't 207 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: that man? Why am I blinking on his name? I 208 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: can see his face and mind I can't too, but yeah, 209 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: he's been doing this a long time, So. 210 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: What is it? 211 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 6: Mo? 212 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: Peterson Peter says that, yeah, there's a there's there's more. 213 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: I just can't think of the rest of them. That 214 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: was a pretty Matten Cleaves was like the guy at 215 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: point guard. Yeah it was that some other stuff up. 216 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 4: Only one huh dang, yeah, only one. But he's been 217 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: I mean they've been consistent for so long. 218 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: That's the thing. Do you want consistency or do you 219 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: want titles? Some people choose consistency over titles. If a 220 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: title comes, that's great, but consistency, like, if you're consistently competitive, 221 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: then that means that you have a chance even though 222 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: the odds are against you. Which one you want? 223 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 4: I mean in that tournament, like what a pain in 224 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: the asset tournament is year in and year out. You know, 225 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: to even get one is impressive, but yeah, you got 226 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 4: the one. And he's been to uh, you know, been 227 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: to eight final fours, which equally impressive, eight final fours, 228 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: and he has done a bunch of great things. 229 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, seventy one years old. So which to that point, 230 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean him giving Hurly advice? How many has Hurley 231 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: gotten in the last like fast this year? Think about 232 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: back to back? Yeah? Yeah, I don't you know, is 233 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: that all he has? He has more than two? Right? 234 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: Or only two? Yeah, he's got two? Only two national champions. 235 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 4: Like yeah, But now that's why I look at it 236 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: and I go Now that we see all the crap, 237 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 4: the drama, the JJ reddicks, it just Danny Hurley strikes 238 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: me as a guy that just would not have I 239 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 4: I can't imagine he would have handled all of that 240 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 4: that came with the Lakers and just let it roll 241 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 4: off his back, keep his mouth shut, you know, just 242 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 4: kind of go with it, deal with the egos and 243 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 4: the personalities, the Lebron drama, like all of the stuff 244 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: that came along with it. Not that he wouldn't be 245 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: able to win games. I just he strikes me as 246 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: a guy he just doesn't have the patience. 247 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: It's just all connected to organizational dysfunction or chaotic type 248 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: of movements. But Q, let me ask you this, because 249 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: I know you are super invested in Notre Dame and 250 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: I know you know a lot of people on the 251 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: inside at the college level, is it is it understated 252 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: in a way that that it's like you have to 253 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: probably deal with more red tape, more drama when you're 254 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: doing business and part of culture at the college level, 255 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: because there's there's head of school or whatever, the. 256 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 6: Role, the the. 257 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: Title bureaucracy in college. Yes, but like can you talk 258 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: to that, can you speak to that? It could be 259 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: overstated the challenge something. 260 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 5: Is it hard to move fast in college without ruffling 261 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 5: some feathers, right, you know if you're talking about I 262 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 5: mean just think about the setup. For example, you've got 263 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 5: your you know, university president. 264 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: You've got a board of regions or. 265 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 5: Or yeah, whatever, what however you want to deem it, 266 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 5: which is basically just a big group of wealthy alums, 267 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: all right, and then you've got your probably your development office, 268 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 5: and they're the ones that are in charge of fundraising 269 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 5: campaigns for the university itself. Not even necessarily athletics, so 270 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 5: that's kind of its own separate deal. And you know, 271 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 5: there's there's trouble sometimes trying to you know, tap in 272 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 5: and make sure everyone's on. 273 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: Board with stuff. 274 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 5: But you know, very similar to how things like work 275 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 5: in the government, like any bureaucracy, it's going to take 276 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 5: a while to move to get stuff done. So if 277 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 5: you do want to move fast, you're probably going to 278 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 5: upset some people. You're probably gonna you know, step over 279 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 5: some of the protocols, and you know, there's just there's 280 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: different things that you know, your headaches you don't have 281 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 5: to deal with. And I think that's why the program 282 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 5: feels like it's a much easier transition if you can 283 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 5: get it, but it also can get taken away from 284 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 5: you lot faster. And I think the pro game, we've 285 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 5: seen guys go and get fired the first year, or 286 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 5: you know, after a year, maybe after two years. It's 287 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 5: getting that way in college because the expectations are so 288 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 5: high and because they're getting compensated as much. But I 289 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 5: look at it and I just say, you know, college basketball, 290 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 5: college sports in general, without a doubt, there's there's more 291 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 5: hats that you have to wear, and so how you 292 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 5: go about building up you know, your program oftentimes relies 293 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 5: on like what the coach wants to do. You know, 294 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 5: does he want to be a guy that's you know, 295 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 5: heavily involved in this scheme in x's and o's. If 296 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 5: he is, he's got to find what hell of a 297 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 5: recruiter and maybe even a general manager. He's going to 298 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 5: handle all that recruiting and all of that talent evaluation. 299 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 5: You know, if he's a guy that'd rather be the 300 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 5: figurehead and delegate down to his coaching staff and let 301 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 5: his coordinators be the ones to handle the x's and o's, 302 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 5: and he's the one that handle the fundraising, he's the 303 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 5: one to handle all the recruiting and relationships. 304 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: That works too. 305 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: You better have some damn good assistance and you better 306 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 5: be able to oversee that. No, you can manage all that, 307 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 5: but that can also work. So it just depends. I mean, 308 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, a lot of these guys, 309 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 5: you know, they're in it for the love of the sport, 310 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 5: but unfortunately they're getting pulled away because the business of it. 311 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 5: And that doesn't matter if you're a college or NBA 312 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 5: or the NFL, it doesn't matter. You know either either way. 313 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 5: You know, if you're trying to make a decision that's 314 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 5: that's purely about the money or that aspect of it. 315 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 5: I want to say it's about even but college coaches 316 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 5: are getting paid a crap ton, man. 317 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: It's just they're also you know, being compensated more. 318 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 5: I think because the structure of those programs isn't like 319 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 5: a professional organization where you have you know, more structured help. 320 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 5: You look at a lot of these coaches and they're 321 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 5: tasked with, you know, evaluating and being the general manager. 322 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: I've gone back. 323 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 5: To Kurt Signetti a couple of times, but that's one 324 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 5: of the things that in my mind makes him so 325 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 5: special in creating his program. He's able to personally evaluate 326 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 5: interview all these you know, transfer portal players they're bringing 327 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 5: in to you're out the right fit, which is crazy. 328 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 5: He wants to coach that you know, they want to 329 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 5: play for like. He has a very blunt, honest conversations, 330 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: so you know, you don't see that quite as much. 331 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 5: But that's something I could promise you. Nick Saban, did 332 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 5: you know some of the best head coaches in college 333 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 5: football have done is they're that heavily involved in recruiting 334 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 5: and who they are talking to, Urban Meyer, same thing. 335 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 5: You know, he talks that's the lifeblood of your program. 336 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: Interesting point, some people understate that and undervalue that because 337 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: it's funny. Like when you watch the program. One of 338 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: the parts, you know, when they were recruiting Jefferson from Philly, 339 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: the running back who was played by Omar Epps. Right, 340 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: you remember they were walking down the street and they 341 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: were heading to the recruiting visit and the coaches, you know, 342 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: like the assistant coaches were telling you like like, yeah, 343 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: he had one hundred and eight yard return against Taft High. 344 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: They almost get to the door, he's like, tell me 345 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: to school again, and then he gets into the recruitment 346 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, we think you can be a 347 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: game changer from day one out, just like that one 348 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: hundred and eight yard return kickoff return you had against 349 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: taf Haigh, Right, Like that's very it's very real. Yeah, 350 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: it's very real. So that when you're delegating some of 351 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: these guys, they don't want to have any parts with 352 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: that sales pitch man. Come on, man, you got to 353 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: be a salesman. But you're when you are invested and 354 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: you do want to see it, and you do want 355 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: to know. Generally speaking, you should be able to see talent. 356 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: That's why I feel like it's it's so like I 357 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: don't understand how coaches missed so much on talent. Like 358 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: all you got to do is look look at the guy. 359 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: Are you basing it off of what you see or 360 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: are you basing it off of the potential of what 361 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: it could be? Or are you doing both? And it's 362 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: pretty like you know, I've been evaluating talent for a 363 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: really really long time. I mean, I mean, just just 364 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: insight on on it. Like I had Shador Sanders in 365 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: my eighth grade All Star Game. I had an eighth 366 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: grade All Star game with under Armour. I had Caleb 367 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: Williams in my eighth grade All Star Game the bottom 368 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: the nail, paulsh didn't you, No, No, I didn't do that. 369 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: But but what I'm saying is is that you can 370 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: see traits at even eighth grade levels that would say 371 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 1: if the kid continues to grow physically, Like I had 372 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: one kid, Swan Flip was a stud Nea Mayah, they 373 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: called him Little Nemo, was a tailback, was a stud 374 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: probably better than everybody, just didn't grow. So you can, 375 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: but but you could at least create a baseline where 376 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: you're tracking. Some of these kids are late bloomers. They 377 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: don't turn it. My son didn't turn into a football 378 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: player until the end of his junior year. Literally the 379 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: end of his junior year. I saw the potential, but 380 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: it was like, nah, he's like he aage average dude. 381 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: Then at the end of his junior year, something happened 382 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: and then he went from average to like pretty special. 383 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: So being involved in getting involved and paying attention to 384 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: it to that level, it's not like it's not hard. 385 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: You just gotta want to do it. It's like a 386 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: common sense exercise. It's not hard, it just takes effort. So, 387 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: which is interesting to make that point. 388 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: Well, thank god for TNA too, because professional wrestling fans, 389 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: the action continues every week TNA Thursday Night Impact every week. 390 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 4: Don't miss the adrenaline, the drama, to the total NonStop 391 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: action as you watch your favorite TNA wrestling stars. For 392 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 4: showtimes and more information, visit TNA wrestling dot com. 393 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: All right, it's coming up next here. 394 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 4: Apparently the numbers and stories that came out on one 395 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: move in the NFL not exactly what they turned out 396 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 4: to be. 397 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: We'll get into that for you right here on FSR. 398 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 399 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 3: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 400 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 401 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hi, this 402 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 3: is Jay. 403 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 6: I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show. 404 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 6: Usually in these promos they ask you to listen to 405 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 6: the show. 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As you're listening to this show on 415 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio app. You know you can also stream us 416 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 4: wherever you happen to be. Catch us in all of 417 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 4: our Fox Sports Radio shows. Live twenty four to seven, 418 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 4: and the new and improved iHeartRadio app. Search Fox Sports 419 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 4: Radio and after stream is live all day, every day, 420 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 4: and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio is one 421 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 4: of your presets in the iHeart apps will always pop 422 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: up at the top of your screen. 423 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: Actually, that's a what wild story? What that my name 424 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: is Mutt? 425 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 5: No oh? 426 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: Because I would understand why your nickname would be Mudd. Damn. 427 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 5: I just don't know how you guys couldn't or Jonas, 428 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 5: why you didn't incorporate that story I sent you and 429 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 5: your little news portion apparently that you're you're doing. 430 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna have it in my leftovers, just you Okay, 431 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: Well say it's in my list. We need to save 432 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: some time for this because it is I just sat videos. 433 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's inspiring, to be honest with you, right, 434 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: when somebody looking at you can't do something that is 435 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: one perspective, then there's this. Well, I think what makes 436 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 4: it an interesting story is it could be relatable to 437 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 4: mister Bain. You know who, mister Bain, Ruben Bang Junior 438 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 4: from Batman, Not Bang the. 439 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: Villain from Batman, but Ruben Bang, the defensive end from Miami. 440 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: You know, they just had their pro day. You know, 441 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: one of the biggest uh you know, criticisms of him 442 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: is what his arm length? Oh well, so it kind 443 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: of relates to this story. But you know what was 444 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: interesting stretch Well, I've been like kind of looking at 445 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: like his measurables and the things that he does. You know, 446 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: he reminds me a lot of is uh D White Freeny, 447 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: Like if I were to do a comp in terms 448 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: of like body type and potential of. 449 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: His twitchy at Freenny, was Freddy had that get off bron. 450 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's as explosive, but he's explosive. 451 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: Bain is an explosive player. He's he's very I mean, 452 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: Jason Taylor has done an amazing, excellent job with with 453 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: teaching them how to maximize what they have. He's a 454 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: gifted dude, and it's interesting when they like the measurement 455 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: of his arm length is at thirty and thirty seven 456 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: eighths inches long, Dwight Freeni's is thirty two and three 457 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: eighths inches long, so like two inch two inches is 458 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: I mean, that's significant. But if you think about it, 459 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: a guy like Javon Kurz has he has thirty four 460 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: inch arms, right, which is Javon had really long arms. 461 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: So it's not like sometimes I feel like people people 462 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: maybe overstate the whole idea of arm length. You know, 463 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 1: it really does come down to your technique and how 464 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: you're able to leverage your body. Dwight Freenie took what 465 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: he had was squattier, like more bottom heavy, and he 466 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: used it. That's why he was so good at Like 467 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: everybody's not going to be able to use the arm 468 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: length get into the body of an offensive blocker and 469 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: spin off of him the way that the wife Reenie 470 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: did it. Freedy was only six one, he seemed bigger, yeah, 471 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: six one, six one yeah, well, and ruben Bain six 472 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: to two. So I think there it's a very interesting 473 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: comp because you know, I was I've just been like 474 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: looking at it because like as the pro days go on, 475 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: like all right, when they highlight guys, I start to 476 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: like kind of go into a little bit of a 477 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: dive hitting into the draft, and I was like, man, like, 478 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't understand why there's so many criticisms on him. 479 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 4: Tis the season, Like we're at the point with the 480 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 4: NFL Draft where now you're finding out everything wrong with players. 481 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: Look, it's just everything, and a lot of it is 482 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: such bs. 483 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: There's been some stuff out there with ty Simpson, and 484 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: then you've got people saying, oh, those are just teams 485 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 4: that are throwing things out there because they're hoping that 486 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 4: he falls in the draft. 487 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: To them, it's like, okay, let me ask you this. 488 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Cue Jonas when when evaluating 489 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: because we were talking about just about you waiting in 490 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: the last segment. I think it's like interesting comment, like 491 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: projecting out physically measurements dota dia. How fast is a guy? 492 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: You can have a guy that's fast that isn't a winner? 493 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: Like how important is the mind the mindset, you know, 494 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: the intellect, the intelligence level of the IQ, of the 495 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: emotional IQ. Like how much like with your dealings of 496 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: so many coaches and gms and people, how important is 497 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: that is? That is the measurement of those things that 498 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: are kind of intangibles. Are they are you able to 499 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: does that hold more weight or equal value? 500 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: It's a piece of the pie, right, It's a piece 501 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: of the process. 502 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 5: You know, I look at it kind of guy played 503 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 5: football and then I if you can play football, and 504 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 5: I watch on Satan feel like he's a dynamic player 505 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 5: and he's got all the tools and traits that I 506 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 5: see on film that i'd like to see. I mean, look, 507 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 5: we're all everyone's willing to make exceptions for the flaws 508 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 5: and the personality of people, whether that be their intelligence 509 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 5: or their social skills, you know, and how they are 510 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 5: as a teammate. If they're that extraordinary. If they're not, 511 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 5: it's a different story. So that's the tough part. I 512 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 5: actually think it's got it's been tougher on teams to 513 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 5: evaluate players because oftentimes they're better prepared than ever before 514 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 5: for interviews. Half the crap they're saying as canned. They 515 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 5: know what the rap shet is. They know what you 516 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 5: know teams are going to bring up about them, and 517 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 5: so we sometimes get glimpses of how teams try to 518 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 5: throw them off or throw them a curveball with an 519 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 5: interview question or something that seems out out of the ordinary, 520 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 5: and yet we chastise the teams for doing so when 521 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 5: all they're trying to do is exactly what you're saying. 522 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 5: And I think you look at them doing the way 523 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 5: with the standardized test, you know, the wonder look's gone. 524 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: Now I believe it's left back like three four years ago. 525 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 5: But you know, that was one way of looking at 526 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 5: someone's general IQ. And people were being real tend to 527 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 5: think sandaritize tests are racist, but it's like, no, dude, 528 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 5: it's like we're just trying to compare everyone. 529 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: Like somehow that was. 530 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 5: An issue for people because those scores end up becoming 531 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 5: public which, uh, that's its own issue with the NFL 532 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 5: as far as what happens at the combine or what 533 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 5: things become, you know, come to public light. But the 534 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 5: idea of having a standardized test to get an idea 535 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 5: of the IQ of players, it was never was an 536 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 5: issue for me. I was like, oh, this makes sense, Like, 537 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 5: would if you don't have the opportunity to really see 538 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 5: how a kid is in a classroom outside of looking 539 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 5: at his GPA or you know, talking to someone that says, yeah, 540 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 5: he was a fine student, you know, wouldn't you want 541 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 5: to see some way of comparing to everyone else to 542 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 5: I mean the truth is, it's it's probably not that 543 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 5: difficult when you're making a decision in the first let's 544 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 5: say the first three rounds, your your top one hundred picks. Okay, 545 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 5: after that yeah, that becomes maybe a deciding factor between 546 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 5: one player or another. So you know, you'd like to 547 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 5: have all the resources and all of the information you 548 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 5: can find on these prospects. But we've made it harder 549 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 5: on teams because you know, the Wonder like you know, 550 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 5: doesn't work out well for some guys. The scores become public, 551 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 5: so we have to do away with that, and now 552 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 5: we can't even interview guys the way we'd. 553 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: Like to anymore. 554 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 5: So it's become much more difficult for the teams to 555 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 5: to do and find out I think what you're saying. 556 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: I wonder is it like, does it have to be 557 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: public domain? All that information? Why is it public domain? 558 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: It's not public domain. The Wonderlook scores just get leaked out. 559 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: But that's and oftentimes there is agents finding. 560 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 5: Ways of putting it out there so they can put 561 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 5: one player down to help elevate their player. 562 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: That's typically how it's done. 563 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, man, agents outside of the few that 564 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 5: are decent guys, and that there's only a handful of. 565 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: You like any of them. Gosh, maybe like one or 566 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: two childs should become an agent, you know, but I 567 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 1: don't like him, So maybe you should because Brady knows 568 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: how I negotiate. I'll get you a deal. Is that 569 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: right right away? 570 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: What I signed for? You got a bag of chips? 571 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right up in there. Put your pats on 572 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: a chuck. 573 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: Worry about when do I get paid? It's gonna be 574 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: a while. We deferred. We deferred your paved a month. 575 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: Really? How many times a month you get paid? Que? 576 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: Oh he went quiet, but a rink of water? Y'all 577 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: get paid twice a month bi weekly? Yeah? 578 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 4: Really most places do. Huh, Although school district, I remember, 579 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 4: get paid school district. You should be at the end 580 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 4: of every month. Yeah. 581 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: I get paid at the end of every month. Mm. No, Yes, 582 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, maybe there's a missing check 583 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: in there. I don't miss check. Maybe somebody's pocketing that. No, 584 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: they don't pocketing my cash. I pocket my cash. Oh 585 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: they called me show What were we supposed to talk about? 586 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: Right now? 587 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: Trump talking about it all right? Hey, guys, Chelsea signed 588 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: in case. 589 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: Three year deal. 590 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. 591 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: Will he make three years? 592 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 6: No? 593 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: No one? Yeah, make one, he'll make one. He'll make one. 594 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he makes Oh you think he's getting injured? 595 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: Put it on the line. How is this pine box 596 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: Derby put on the line? 597 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: Gosh, do you think he's gonna get hurt? 598 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: Dick's picks They won't make one all right, by. 599 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 4: The way, coming up next our Lebarno's gonna predict who dives? 600 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 4: You know they have a website for that Dick's picks? 601 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: Man? 602 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: Our r I p Chuck Norris. Yeah, someone sent me 603 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: a tweet. 604 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: Man. 605 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: The people out there are crazy. They're like photos of 606 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: birds from Chuck Norris's funeral. He's carrying his own cast. 607 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's that's pretty good. Gosh that. 608 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 4: I mean he was still in great shape man, as 609 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 4: you when he got older and older and got still 610 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 4: agreed at that. 611 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: Fool gym complete gym, total. 612 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: Gym total. 613 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, New Year's resolutions. Oh come on, man, put easy storage, 614 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: pull it out from under your bed, store it in 615 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: your closet. It doesn't get in the way. But you 616 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: know what does being out of shape? So be like 617 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: Chuck Norris jump on the total gym forgot about total 618 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: gim Yeah, bruh, you had everybody wanting to work that 619 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: money he make off that brought New Year's resolution. You 620 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: know how many moms and dads, Like dads were looking 621 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: at wives like you need this and it's convenient for 622 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: you in between doing other things. You know how many 623 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: moms looked at dad's like you neat this in between 624 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: autumn beers that you're drinking, like you know how many 625 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: people get those for Christmas gifts? 626 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 4: Does anybody actually think that Chuck Norris got that ripped 627 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 4: by using the total gym? 628 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: What are you trying to say? 629 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 4: That's like people buying the Rebok pumps because they're like, 630 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna dunk like de Brown. No you're not, You're 631 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 4: white and five seven, You're not going anywhere, dummy. 632 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: Dang. 633 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 4: Come on, man, Total Jim, get Chuck Norris ripped my ass. 634 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 4: You want to get ripped, do it the honest way. 635 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 4: Get on the gas. 636 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 5: By the way, back to the Kelsey deal before you're 637 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 5: just disparaging Chuck Norris, who's an absolute American icon. It's 638 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 5: it's really a one year deal. I mean he's got 639 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: twelve million dollars guaranteed in it. So to Levar's point, 640 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 5: this is the one year that's guaranteed. After that they 641 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 5: can move on. 642 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: It's one he won't make one year. 643 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: The one thing you can, you can be reassured of 644 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: those he will finish. 645 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 5: I can't say chie. I mean, I don't imagine they 646 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 5: trade him just because he's under contract. But he should 647 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 5: retire as a Kanst City chief. That's awesome to see. 648 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: I think that's the point of making it a three 649 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: year deal, Like they're not going to trade him away 650 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: and nobody's going to trade for him. I mean, the 651 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: way you make it sound, it's a horse on his 652 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: last leg. What they say. I hate the terminology, but 653 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: people love don't what they say, he's so long in 654 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: the tooth, Like I think it's one of the dumbest 655 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: statements ever in life. But whatever, it's like, I hate 656 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: it long in the tooth, Like, what the hell does 657 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: that even mean? Can you explain to me what long 658 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: in the tooth mean? Like are you growing at a tusk? 659 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 6: Like? 660 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: What is? What does it mean? What you got to 661 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: type it in? Yeah? Efforting, That's what I'm saying, Like 662 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: we got to go to break, That's what I'm saying. 663 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: If you don't have to, you shouldn't have to type it. 664 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: Side of this break. None of us know what it means. 665 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Why use it bull crap. 666 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 4: What I know? 667 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: I got in ears. 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I was looking up 688 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 4: long in the tooth, all right, because that's levard thrown 689 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 4: that out before we went to break. 690 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: That's a repulsive saying. 691 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 4: To be long in the tooth means to be older aging. 692 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 4: While it is often used for people, it can also 693 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 4: describe animals or inanimate objects that are becoming outdated or obsolete. 694 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 4: The origin it originates from horse trading in the eighteen hundreds. 695 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 4: Because a horse's gums recede and its teeth appear to 696 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 4: grow longer and change angles at ages, experts could estimate 697 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 4: a horse's age by examining its mouth. This is also 698 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 4: related to the idiom quote never look a gift horse 699 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 4: in the mouth, which cautions against checking a gifts age. 700 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: Or value too closely. So there you go. So people 701 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: are getting compared to horses, Yeah, all right, you're the one. 702 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: People have always be compared to animals like silver backs, 703 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, horses, you know Clydesdale's unicorns, pegasusts, stuff like that, termites, bears, termites, pigeons. Yeah, 704 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm with lions, tigers. Yeah, okay, with you all right, 705 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 1: like a team mascot. All right, great point. Okay, Although 706 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: the ones you play for. You're not allowed to say anymore. 707 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: So crazy my whole career anyway. 708 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 4: But yeah, a little bit of good news for you. Okay, 709 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 4: with you on the subject of Pittsburgh, your old stomping grounds. 710 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this, but uh, the 711 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 4: district out there, the school district notified staff and school district. 712 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 4: The Pittsburgh School District notified staff and families that it 713 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 4: will operate remotely April twenty second through the twenty fourth 714 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 4: while the city gets ready for the NFL Draft. 715 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, here we go. 716 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 5: Estimating forget the kids, the draft's coming, guys, draft is coming. 717 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 4: They're estimating up to seven hundred thousand visitors will be 718 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 4: a time for the draft. Well, big of our future, 719 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 4: and uh, I'm going to show. 720 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: You that's a place with priorities. Well at least our 721 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: population might go up. How pishy thy parents are? 722 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 4: What? 723 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: Second? 724 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, forget the people. I have to work Thursday and Friday. 725 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: You know it's going to be a whole lot. 726 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, man, the school districts have have gone insane. 727 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 5: They've lost their mind with some of the decisions they make, 728 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 5: this being one of them, like the draft is in 729 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 5: primetime each of those nights. I understand the issue they're 730 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 5: going to try to make about traffic, But are those 731 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 5: kids home by what three or four? 732 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, before we doing what we're talking about. The draft 733 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 2: starts literally in primetime Thursday and Friday. 734 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: Well, they got to get ready for it, you know, 735 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: they got to other's closures. 736 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 5: I get it, man, I think we can make exceptions 737 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 5: for kids right for school. Can we not not make 738 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 5: exceptions for our kids going to school? 739 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't make an exception for that, 740 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: what are we making exceptions for? 741 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 6: Like? 742 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: Oh, but they'll they'll say, they will say it's responsible 743 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: to give them the opportunity to be able to zoom 744 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: and to get their studies. 745 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 4: They will say that, Yeah, but if you're a parent, 746 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 4: there's probably a lot of parents are going to have 747 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 4: to take time off of work now and lose money 748 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 4: just because their kids got to be home. 749 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: People don't take off work, can't take off work those kids. 750 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: That's why I say it's going to be a whole 751 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 1: lot where our population is going to increase in those 752 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: two days. The older kids are going to be running 753 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: a monk, and the younger kids are going to be 754 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: running a monk. Could you imagine Shad? Back in the day, 755 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: I was running them, tear them street. I didn't need 756 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: to be allowed to stay at home. I don't need 757 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: to be I don't need no draft. Ain't nobody need 758 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: no drafts here at LeVar yelling. It's just a hot talk. 759 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 3: I