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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program here in the hun

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Speaker 1: Day Texans Radio studio. Mark Vandermair and John Harris with you.

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Speaker 1: It is the round Table because.

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Speaker 2: We have d B.

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Speaker 1: Sido and Drew Doherty here as well. We've been doing

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Speaker 1: this on Tuesdays. It's fun.

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Speaker 2: It's fun to get everybody's.

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Speaker 1: Opinions and perspectives on things, including, but not limited to OTAs.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: They started yesterday continued today. We all had a look

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Speaker 1: and it's time to dig in, folks and talk about

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Speaker 1: what we saw, what we felt, what we experienced. Emotionally,

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Speaker 1: we don't have to go that deep, but we will. Drew,

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Speaker 1: first of all, your biggest takeaway from what you saw today?

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Speaker 3: Overall, I could get checked on this, I'm sure, and

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Speaker 3: maybe I'm incorrect, but it seemed like more reps on

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Speaker 3: the whole today in an Ota than I've ever seen before.

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Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is specifically with the offense.

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Speaker 3: Usually it's the first team quarterback throws a pass to

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Speaker 3: said receiver. This I saw today, two quarterbacks working at

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Speaker 3: the same time, thrown at the same time.

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Speaker 4: It seemed very very crisp.

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Speaker 3: One guy would rotate out, one guy would move over

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Speaker 3: and the next guy would move in, and it was

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Speaker 3: kind of like it reminded me a little bit more

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Speaker 3: of about fifteen years ago when I was in Lubbock

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Speaker 3: and watching Mike Leitch's five quarterbacks throwing to five different

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Speaker 3: receivers at the same time getting everybody reps. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: maybe I've just not been paying attention for the last

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Speaker 3: decade or so, but it seemed like a lot more

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Speaker 3: going on today than in OTAs of recent years.

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Speaker 5: Johnny comments on that, well, one of the things I

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Speaker 5: have seen them do, like dual quarterback stuff.

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Speaker 2: But here's one of the one thing I've.

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Speaker 5: Never seen ever is when they have been going two quarterbacks,

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Speaker 5: if they're bossing the other, if there aren't ones understanding

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Speaker 5: the other's under center, if they're both in a gun,

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Speaker 5: they're both a gun. This they're alternating where there might

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Speaker 5: be one guy in under center and there might be

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Speaker 5: one guy in the gun, and that's different. Like I

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Speaker 5: remember watching it going, wait a second, something different here,

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Speaker 5: and then I realized, oh, they're ones under center and

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Speaker 5: ones you know, uh in the shotgun, and they're working

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Speaker 5: you know, all their route trees and all that kind

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Speaker 2: But that's the one thing that I've noticed they did.

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Speaker 2: They didn't do that before.

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Speaker 5: But the one thing I noticed along those signs, along

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Speaker 5: those lines drew was the ball that hit the ground much.

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Speaker 2: I think there were two. There were two drops. That

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Speaker 2: was it in the I mean, balls were right where

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Speaker 2: they needed to be.

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Speaker 5: So that's always a good sign when quarterbacks are throwing

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Speaker 5: on air, and I know people hear that and go, well,

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Speaker 5: they're on air.

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Speaker 2: Listen. There have been practices that we have seen in OTAs.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, on air.

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Speaker 5: Where highly paid cornerbacks were on air and missing receivers

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Speaker 5: by a wide margin.

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Speaker 2: Yep, we're very very high, So we've seen that.

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Speaker 5: So this this was I don't want to say it's

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Speaker 5: anything new, but it's always another Okay, these guys are

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Speaker 4: One little dendum.

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Speaker 3: I just know over the last few years, I've been

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Speaker 3: able to comfortably shoot with my phone the video and

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Speaker 3: have plenty of time in between reps. Did not that

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Speaker 3: was not the case. I mean, I had to like

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Speaker 3: ing Ban Ban Bank. There was no wasted moment, it seemed.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I felt like they are so crisp, they are so

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Speaker 1: quick in what they do. Stationed to station it's noticeable

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Speaker 1: and it's really cool. It's really refreshing in a way,

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Speaker 1: and to see this offense come into play. But I

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Speaker 1: don't want to use my take time now DP.

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Speaker 6: With your Yeah, I've enjoyed these takes because I feel

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Speaker 6: like along those same lines with the quarterbacks. I don't

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Speaker 6: know really what I expected to see out of CJ.

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Speaker 6: Stroud and OTAs. I thought we might try to put

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Speaker 6: he's got to earn his spot or whatever. But I

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Speaker 6: was pleased to see that he was getting a lot

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Speaker 6: right now, but it seemed like he was getting quite

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that. I know we're not naming any starters

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Speaker 6: right now. I think that's the big question everywhere we

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Speaker 6: to happen week one? But I think he's getting a

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Speaker 6: lot of work. We heard from Davis Mills a little

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Speaker 6: bit earlier. He's still preparing as if he's competing for

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Speaker 6: a starting job, because he said that's just how he's

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Speaker 6: rookies out there. And I like seeing tank Dell out there.

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Speaker 6: I thought, man, he is really fast. He makes his

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Speaker 6: cut so quickly. So since Drew didn't bring up Tank Dell,

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Speaker 6: I thought I would bring up Tank Dell because I

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Speaker 6: know we're all sort of out there watching him. But

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Speaker 6: I really like this one particular pass a CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 6: had a Tank Dell that got me kind of fired up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all waiting for Johnny to bring up the

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman because nobody else will, but come.

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Speaker 6: On Tyas Howard's birthday.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this, though, I think that Stroud

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Speaker 1: is actually getting more reps than anybody.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: Everybody read the tweets earlier in the day that Mills

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Speaker 1: was getting the first team reps or first team reps period.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's like that they're blending lineups together.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's the first quarterback to go in some of

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Speaker 1: these drills and some of these sessions, but then Stroud

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Speaker 1: will go second and get I would think more reps

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Speaker 1: than Mills and we were roughly counting them. But this

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Speaker 1: is day two, whatever it is, give me two three

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Speaker 1: weeks of this mini camp and I'll have much more

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Speaker 1: because I think right now they're trying to get everybody acclimated.

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Speaker 6: I'm just trying to remember in the past, when you've

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Speaker 6: be the starter, it's usually like one quarterback gets a

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Speaker 6: you know, it's way less, but it didn't feel that

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Speaker 3: And there's also mingling, like you to I don't know

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Speaker 3: what you were just saying, Mark, you'd have like you say,

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Speaker 3: Mills handing off to Pierce in a drill, and then

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Speaker 3: was Stroud handing off to Pierce and Stroud handing off

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Speaker 3: to Singletary. Before that, it was a mixing and matching,

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Speaker 3: a mingling. That's another thing that I'm kind of going

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Speaker 3: back to my original point. You just had a lot

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Speaker 3: more crispness it felt.

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Speaker 2: Like today, Johnny.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was word I was gonna use the crisp

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Speaker 5: nature of practice. Their mistakes made in every practice is

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Speaker 5: no question about that.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 5: One of the things, and this is, you know when

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Speaker 5: have young players in general learning a new scheme. You know,

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Speaker 5: Jimen Petri's learning a new scheme, Demian Pierce has learned

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Speaker 5: a new scheme. You know, everybody's learning a new scheme.

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Speaker 5: But when you're a rookie quarterback learning a new scheme,

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Speaker 5: that can take I can imagine a toll it takes

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Speaker 5: on coaches. I always thinking about it from the coaching

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Speaker 5: angle and the patients with which just kind of watching

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Speaker 5: not not just CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud but all.

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Speaker 5: The quarterbacks, but knowing that Davis Mills and case Keenum

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Speaker 2: But seeing CJ.

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Speaker 5: Stroud you can see he's kind of thinking through some

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Speaker 5: the patients on Bobby Slowick, which I think and I

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Speaker 5: think about, you know, days of your coaching, and how

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Speaker 5: impatient I would get, like, what did I just tell you?

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Speaker 2: I just told you.

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Speaker 5: This, this, this, this, You know, I would lose my patients.

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Speaker 5: He he doesn't. He hasn't lost patience at all. He

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Speaker 5: could tell him. He's very thorough, he's very precise, but

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Speaker 5: he's also being very patients as I watch him. Now,

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Speaker 5: once you get into the games and it's time to

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Speaker 5: win games, okay, the patients all right, but you know

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Speaker 5: right now, when you can be patient, when you can teach,

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Speaker 5: when you can step back and make sure that your

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Speaker 5: guy has gotten it. That's what they're doing and I

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Speaker 5: really appreciate that. I just think the energy and the

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Speaker 5: of people say, well, it's the Demico factor, it's Themico factor.

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Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of things that go into that. Yes,

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Speaker 5: Tomko is a big part of that, but I think

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Speaker 5: also the veterans you brought in here. We heard from

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Speaker 5: I just think there's a different vibe and an energy

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Speaker 5: something a little different about that, and I think it's

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Speaker 5: kind of rubbed off on everybody. But man, how quickly

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Speaker 5: the tempo of practice and things they move from drill

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Speaker 5: to drill on how they go about it, it's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 5: And hopefully that continues because that, to me, of course,

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Speaker 5: you're go into coaching mode like that, to me is

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Speaker 5: where you start to you think fast, you practice fast,

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Speaker 5: putting pressure on teams because you.

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Speaker 2: Execute that way every.

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Speaker 5: Single thing that you do. And hopefully that's what we

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Speaker 5: do in twenty twenty three and beyond.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Bobby Slowick coaching the offense, and we didn't

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Speaker 1: hear from him today, but we heard from Demiko Ryans

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Speaker 1: who talked about that, among other things.

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Speaker 7: They approach it just like everyone else. Right, They take

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Speaker 7: their time each player right, no matter who you are,

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Speaker 7: a quarterback, linebacker, each player in a position group room

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Speaker 7: learns differently. So as a coach. You take your time

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Speaker 7: to get to know that player, and you get to

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Speaker 7: know how that player learns best, and that's how you

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Speaker 7: go about teaching them.

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Speaker 1: And that's Demiko Ryan's talking about Bobby Slowick coaching CJ. Stroud, Well,

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Speaker 1: what about what CJ. Stroud had to say about the

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Speaker 1: way he is being coached by Bobby Sloeck and by

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Speaker 1: Jerrod Johnson, the quarterbacks coach.

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Speaker 8: They've taking it very methodical and just wanted to get

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Speaker 8: me to learn it step by step, just like how

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Speaker 8: they would teach anybody else. So I feel like I've

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Speaker 8: tried to do a lot of work on my own

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Speaker 8: so when I come back the next day that I

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Speaker 8: have that put in the bank to be able to

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Speaker 8: move on to the next install, whatever it is. So

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Speaker 1: Stroud operate out there all right, let's overanalyze everything right now,

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Speaker 4: He mentioned it today, he does well there.

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Speaker 3: It's like he says, all the other good stuff that

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Speaker 5: Well, I think I think the biggest thing along those lines.

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Speaker 2: Now this guy wants to talk about you, This.

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Speaker 5: Guy wants to do this, this woman wants to interview

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Speaker 5: And that's where I think the Ohio State situation to

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Speaker 2: He wasn't just in the fields, he didn't do this.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't until that game against Georgia where they finally said, okay,

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Speaker 5: We're gonna be okay. I think we're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: He thought through that entire process.

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Speaker 5: He went through every single aspect of it and decided

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Speaker 3: Him included all right, I'm gonna come in from left

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Speaker 3: have no business whatsoever scoring a touchdown, they will score

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Speaker 3: I noticed that, so somebody's going to catch a ball

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Speaker 1: Looked different, the warm up looked different than they put

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Speaker 5: Extent of the the ball warm up. I covered a game.

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Speaker 5: And I'll never forget this. Twenty fifteen down in San Antonio,

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Speaker 2: And I thought that's genius.

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Speaker 5: have enough time with it, right, you never you know

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Speaker 5: It's so funny you said that because I think back

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Speaker 5: I would do that. I'll tell my guys, go get

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Speaker 5: all the footballs we got, Go play catch. Don't hurt anybody.

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Speaker 5: Just play catch. You know, run some you know, quick routs, whatever,

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Speaker 2: I want Quick takes on the defense.

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Speaker 1: But before that, Quick takes on Tomko because all of

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Speaker 2: Really, it's the Demiko Ryan's umbrella.

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Speaker 1: He covers everything here, this is his operation, and we're

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's he's a young coach who knows how it

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Speaker 8: So like it's cool to have a coach that's not

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Speaker 8: So he's been amazing though, very transparent. Communication has been great. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Everybody's wondering stuck up all the time. Yeah, but that

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Speaker 6: I think, you know. I think what he was trying

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Speaker 6: I feel like he's more along the veins of, Hey,

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Speaker 4: This makes all the sense in the world. He's staying

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Speaker 5: I don't think you have to have played in the

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Speaker 5: don't know anything, what are you gonna do? All that

436
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Speaker 5: kind of stuff. I don't think he experienced it, but

437
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Speaker 5: I think he realizes rookie, hey, there's some things you

438
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Speaker 5: don't know. But you don't want to feel like you're

439
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Speaker 5: not a part of the team or you're not a

440
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Speaker 5: part of things just because well I just came out

441
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Speaker 5: of college. You shouldn't feel that way. Everybody should be

442
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Speaker 5: in this thing together, and you know you.

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Speaker 1: Can help a team. You can help the team as

444
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Speaker 1: a rookie, and especially this.

445
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Speaker 5: Squad, this squad has opportunities for first and second year

446
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Speaker 5: guys to make a lot of plays. So I'd just

447
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Speaker 5: like that approach to look everybody can help us. That's

448
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Speaker 5: the way I would look at it. I don't care

449
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Speaker 5: if you're a rookie or a fifteen year guy, the

450
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Speaker 5: fifteen year vet. You can help us in some way,

451
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Speaker 5: shape or form, and we're gonna support you in every

452
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Speaker 5: way possible to help you help us.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's hear from the head coach. What does he

454
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Speaker 1: have to say about the rookies and how they're coming along.

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Speaker 7: Rookies have come along, Will, guys are flying around. Guys

456
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Speaker 7: are you know? They have a lot of learning to do,

457
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Speaker 7: but they picked up on it very well. They're improving

458
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Speaker 7: each day is and that's all I ask of them.

459
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Speaker 7: Just take a little one step every day, one step better.

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Speaker 7: And those guys have that. They're doing it. So I'm

461
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Speaker 7: encouraged with all of our rookies. They seem to fit

462
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Speaker 7: right here.

463
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Speaker 1: One step better every day. That's how we should all

464
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Speaker 1: approach life. Okay, quick takes on what we saw defensively.

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Speaker 3: Drew look good, just fun and kind of out of

466
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Speaker 3: place seeing Will Anderson with twos.

467
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Speaker 4: But that's not gonna last.

468
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Speaker 2: He's gonna be they're all over the point with.

469
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Speaker 3: The ones h Henry Toto. You know, he got a

470
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Speaker 3: lot of action there. He was moving guys around. So

471
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Speaker 3: it looks like he's settling in quite nicely and doing

472
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Speaker 3: just what he did at Alabama, which is just what

473
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Speaker 3: he did at Tennessee before that and at Dalla Salle

474
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Speaker 3: in high school prior to that, running the show on defense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say Will Anderson that was the

476
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Speaker 6: big standout to me. He's huge, he's tall, and you know,

477
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Speaker 6: I'm very excited to see what he does out there.

478
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Speaker 6: I think Geelean Petrie, he talks a little, He talked

479
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Speaker 6: a little bit about him. Him and Jimmy Ward. I

480
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Speaker 6: think that'll be an exciting pair to watch as OTA's

481
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Speaker 6: get going. They already have a handshake, Jalen said. He

482
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Speaker 6: said it's lit. So I can't wait to see the

483
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Speaker 6: handshake cause I didn't see it today. So I'm excited

484
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Speaker 6: to see the melding of Vets with the rookies along

485
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Speaker 6: with our second year players. I mean, we saw like

486
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Speaker 6: Petrie and Stanley, and I think just I want to

487
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Speaker 6: see them this year because I think for us, even

488
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Speaker 6: though everything else has changed, I want to see how

489
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Speaker 6: they've changed from year one to year two. We saw

490
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Speaker 6: what they were sort of at the back end of

491
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Speaker 6: the year, but to see them now this year, just

492
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Speaker 6: being more comfortable. Jaltree was so comfortable last year. I

493
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Speaker 6: can't even imagine what second year Jalen Peatree's gonna look like.

494
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Speaker 2: He got up there in front of the media today

495
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Speaker 2: and I felt like he's been.

496
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Speaker 1: Here five years. Yes, yeah, but in a good way

497
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Speaker 1: five years, right. It just felt so comfortable and natural. Petrie,

498
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Speaker 1: I want to get his I want to get the

499
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Speaker 1: veterans commentary on this organization right now.

500
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Speaker 2: Get his perspective. Johnny quick take of the defense.

501
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's there's depth to go with talent.

502
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Speaker 5: And they play faster, and I think they're going to

503
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Speaker 5: play smarter. That's going to be to me something really interesting.

504
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Speaker 5: And they play fast. They're playing faster now that is

505
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Speaker 5: right now when the scheme is simple. They've got to

506
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Speaker 5: continue to play fast as they start to amp them

507
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Speaker 5: things up. But I think that's going to be the

508
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Speaker 5: biggest thing, is how fast they can play with all

509
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Speaker 5: this knowledge and brain power. And some some athletes, including

510
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Speaker 5: the guy Drew mentioned Will something or other, oh.

511
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Speaker 2: Him whatever his name is, he'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I think there are two players here that are more

513
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Speaker 1: important than whatever they produce on the field. It's going

514
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Speaker 1: to be about what they produce on the field, for sure,

515
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Speaker 1: but also what they produce in the locker room. I

516
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Speaker 1: don't expect Case Ketam to play much, okay, and if

517
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Speaker 1: he does, maybe people have gotten hurt.

518
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Speaker 2: But it's great to have Case here.

519
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Speaker 1: Obviously, his influence is going to be felt in that

520
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Speaker 1: quarterback room and beyond. And Robert Woods, who spoke to

521
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Speaker 1: the media today, but Dimiko Rimes was asked about the

522
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Speaker 1: veteran receiver and his contribution to this team.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, for Robert, I think he just helps guys. When

524
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Speaker 7: is when you're a player and you have those questions

525
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Speaker 7: that a coach may not be able to get to

526
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Speaker 7: you right now, get that answer to you as quick

527
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Speaker 7: as possible. Robert is that guy players can go playing on.

528
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Speaker 2: Ask Robert.

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Speaker 7: Robert has played in this offensive system before, he knows it.

530
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Speaker 7: He knows it just as good as some of herd

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Speaker 7: coaches known. So Robert is a guy that young players

532
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Speaker 7: still try to lean on. Young players still try to

533
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Speaker 7: pick his brain and just learn as much as they

534
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Speaker 7: can from guys. And that's what veteran leadership is about

535
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Speaker 7: in the NFL. Right if the real vetters in this league,

536
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 7: they pass on knowledge, they pass on information to the

537
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Speaker 7: younger guys, and those younger guys continue that as they

538
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Speaker 7: continue to grow throughout the league. And that's why we're here.

539
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Speaker 7: We stand on the backs of the guys who came

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Speaker 7: before us in this league and allowed us to be

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Speaker 7: in this position.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how can you not like playing for that guy?

543
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Speaker 1: Like Johnny said, he knows what the players are going through.

544
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Speaker 1: They know that he knows. It's not like he's just

545
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Speaker 1: seen it, He's lived it, and he respects those who

546
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Speaker 1: have come before him. That's very cool stuff.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Final thought, as we embark on week two of OTA's

549
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Speaker 1: next week and then Mini CAAP a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: after that, before the breakthrough.

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Speaker 4: It's morning in Texan's time. It's exciting.

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Speaker 2: I like that. I like that DP.

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Speaker 6: I just want to see more development from some of

554
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Speaker 6: the rookies. I want to see how much more they're

555
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Speaker 6: able to do next week. I mean, I don't know

556
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Speaker 6: if we're going to see it a week to week,

557
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Speaker 6: but this was the first week of the Vets and

558
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Speaker 6: the rookies being out there together, so I'm excited to

559
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Speaker 6: see what they can build on for next week.

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Speaker 1: I remember Watson, the difference between week one and week

561
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Speaker 1: three that was really noticeable in OTAs, never mind training camp,

562
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Speaker 1: and I compare a lot of it to that because

563
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Speaker 1: that was the other highest rated quarterback they drafted after

564
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Speaker 1: David Carr number one overall in two thousand and two,

565
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Speaker 1: which was one hundred years ago.

566
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Speaker 5: Joh, I thought you were gonna skip me. That's okay,

567
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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna skip you. The thing right now is

568
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 5: just keep everybody healthy. Get guys that aren't ready to go,

569
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Speaker 5: get him healthy by training camp, keep everybody healthy that's

570
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Speaker 5: going right now. Just keep healthy because I think this

571
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Speaker 5: team can be something a lot more than people think

572
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 5: it can be. But you got to got to keep

573
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Speaker 5: key guys healthy.

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Speaker 2: In particular.

575
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Speaker 5: You're gonna have injuries, but your hopefully your depth is improved.

576
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Speaker 5: So I think keeping people healthy is the biggest thing

577
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Speaker 5: to me.

578
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Speaker 1: All right, we have a lot of other stuff to

579
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Speaker 1: get to. That's the roundtable. Johnny and I will talk

580
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 1: about rip the kickoff and Tom Brady didn't get what

581
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 1: I thought he might get from the Patriots. But he's

582
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Speaker 1: getting something else, which is pretty interesting. We'll talk about

583
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: that among other things next year on Texans Radio. All right,

584
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Speaker 1: let's keep it rolling here on Texans All Access. Mark

585
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: Vandermer and John Harris with you. A lot of reaction

586
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Speaker 1: today on Twitter before we get to some of the

587
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Speaker 1: other around the league stuff, including the death of the kickoff.

588
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: I'll get to that because you know I'm gonna be

589
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: upset about that. Yeah, but OTAs a lot of talk

590
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Speaker 1: about who's starting who's not. There's no starting right now.

591
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Speaker 1: You're just either going first or second or third. They're

592
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Speaker 1: mixing people up. I expect this to continue throughout OTAs.

593
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Speaker 1: We'll see if they change some of the order of things.

594
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Speaker 1: But they changed it today even as we were watching.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's smart to do because think about

596
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Speaker 5: a season. I mean, how often during a season do

597
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Speaker 5: you have mix and match at linebacker because of injuries,

598
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Speaker 5: because a lunch or whatever. O line Wide receiver groups,

599
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Speaker 5: I mean, there are some that are natural to kind

600
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Speaker 5: of changes. I mean wide receivers and tight ends. They're

601
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Speaker 5: always kind of mixing and matching depending on personnel groups.

602
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Speaker 5: But even during the season, I mean, what was it.

603
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Speaker 5: Twenty twenty one, we had what ten or eleven different

604
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Speaker 5: offensive line combinations, And you're also trying to keep guys again,

605
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 5: and as I said during Urante, but you keep guys healthy.

606
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Speaker 5: So you know what, if tys Hower doesn't take every

607
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 5: single repar right tackle, I'm not gonna cry in my water.

608
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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna worry about it. Tyson is gonna be fine.

609
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 5: They're gonna be guys that are gonna be fine. And

610
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Speaker 5: if the weather stays like it is, they'll get pretty

611
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Speaker 5: quickly anyway. So I'm not worried about that. So this

612
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Speaker 5: this part of the season. To me, this is a

613
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Speaker 5: huge part of the season because you've talked about this.

614
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Speaker 5: You mentioned last night you have two weeks of training

615
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Speaker 5: camp before you play a preseason game, and you better

616
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Speaker 5: have your better have your bleep together yeap by that,

617
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Speaker 5: and you're playing a game, right, You're playing a game.

618
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Speaker 5: So you've got two weeks in training camp to really

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Speaker 5: be ready for that. Well, this is the time where

620
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Speaker 5: you start getting ready, especial especially cerebrally, getting your cerebral

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Speaker 5: getting everything from a scheme standpoint down and ready to go,

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Speaker 5: and then so you can hit the ground running a

623
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Speaker 5: training camp, because you can't hit the ground running a

624
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Speaker 5: training camp and then go, oh, yeah, well let's go.

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Speaker 2: Back and review what we did in the spring.

626
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Speaker 5: No, you've got to have that down and ready to roll,

627
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Speaker 5: because you only got to You got those two weeks

628
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Speaker 5: to get ready, and I don't you don't really have

629
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Speaker 5: two weeks. You got three days off day, four days

630
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Speaker 5: off day, a couple of days game. So in the

631
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Speaker 5: first ones on the road, so you're traveling the day

632
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 5: before as it is, so you maybe have ten practices

633
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 5: before you play a preseason game, so you better get

634
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 5: your stuff done now. To do that and to feel

635
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 5: comfortable with that, you got to mix the match.

636
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Speaker 2: You got to find what works and what works together.

637
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 5: And look, you never know by putting somebody in a

638
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 5: particular role during OTAs and you look at each other

639
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 5: as coaches and go, hey, I kind of like the

640
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 5: looks of that. Do you want to you want to

641
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 5: try that again next tomorrow and see what it looks like.

642
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that tomorrow.

643
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, it looks better, and oh wow,

644
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 5: we just found a nickelback that we didn't know that

645
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 5: we had. You know, oh we like this at lineback.

646
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 5: You know you some things come out of the spring

647
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 5: that you had no idea that we're coming. But sometimes

648
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 5: they're just born out of circumstance. Like, hey, our linebackers

649
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 5: are all hurt today, so let's see what this guy

650
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 5: looks like. Like, Wow, that guy looked pretty good. Let's

651
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 5: see let's keep them there. See what happens.

652
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: That guy ends up being a player. So you never

653
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: know what can happen.

654
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 5: But that's why you mix and match, keep guys healthy,

655
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 5: give guys opportunity, and see what guys do with this,

656
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 5: especially the younger guys get an opportunity.

657
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: All Right, the league has approved the fair catch on

658
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: the kickoff. In other words, let's say fair Baron's kicking

659
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: off inside the five right, the opponent can call for

660
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: the fair catch, make a fair catch at the four

661
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: yard line, and they get the ball to twenty five. Johnny,

662
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: I've got a lot to say about this, Okay, but

663
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: tell me, this is this the end of the kickoff

664
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: as we know it.

665
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: We're heading that way, We're totally headed that way. We're

666
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: heading that way.

667
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: Why am I ever going to risk giving up a

668
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: big return? In other words, in order to get the

669
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: opponent to return the football at all. I've got to

670
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: tempt them into it by kicking off to let's say

671
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: the eight or ten yard line, right right, I've got

672
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: to tempt them into that for a possible stop.

673
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: At the eighteen or twenty. It's not worth it anymore.

674
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: No one's gonna take that chance.

675
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: The only time you're going to return a kick is

676
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: if there's a squib, or if somebody botches the kick

677
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: off and kicks it off short because of the wind

678
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: or a bad kick or whatever, to the ten or

679
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: twelve yard line. Now they're gonna return it. No one's

680
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: gonna bring one out of the end zone. No one's

681
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: gonna return it from the one or the two unless

682
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: they feel like I've got so much daylight, or they

683
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: want to get fired by the special teams coach, because

684
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: you're always gonna want to take that twenty five yard

685
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: line spot. Now that they're just giving it to you,

686
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: are they gonna start kicking off ugly, like not just

687
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 1: a squib, but just an ugly drive.

688
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 5: You're gonna start seeing more squib kicks than you've ever

689
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 5: seen before.

690
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: That's it.

691
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: You can't fair catch a sqipkick, right, correct, can you?

692
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: If you catch it on the drive. You can't fair

693
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: catch a squib. No, If it bounces, it bounds, that's it.

694
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: There you go.

695
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: But if they drive the ball and you somehow get

696
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: your hands on it, that you're gonna be too risky.

697
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 5: Though. You're gonna see kickers mastering some new kicking tool

698
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 5: where you just hit worm burners. Not I mean, you

699
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 5: hit a squib kick as hard as you can hit it, Yeah,

700
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 5: and see where it ends up. I mean, that really

701
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 5: is gonna' that's what takes that out of play.

702
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: But you can't kick it toward the sideline because then

703
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: you risk yeah, mask going out of bounds. Yeah.

704
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 5: Absolutely, It's got to be really, it's got to be

705
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 5: dead center, right up the middle. And that's really that's

706
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 5: really about all you can It's really about all you

707
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 5: can do to combat this. I think back to and

708
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 5: it's funny, Mark, I was thinking about this because over

709
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 5: the last couple of days I've been reviewing, editing a

710
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 5: book on game management, situational football, that kind of stuff,

711
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 5: and one of the chapters is devoted to the Bills

712
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 5: Chiefs playoff game in twenty one.

713
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: They had thirteen seconds.

714
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 5: Left right and the Bills the Bills kicked off and

715
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 5: they were able to They kicked it into the end

716
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 5: zone and so they were able to start the twenty

717
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 5: five I remember correctly started the twenty five and then

718
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 5: they got three plays from there, as opposed to kicking

719
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 5: a mortar kick inside the five force them to return it,

720
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: and that would have run some time off, and that

721
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 5: would have been no way that would have been. That

722
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 5: would have been how to combat it. Well, you can't

723
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 5: do that. Now you hit that mortar kick. Anything you

724
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: hit in the air, they're gonna pay fair catch you.

725
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 5: You're gonna get it twenty five and the clock while

726
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 5: not run.

727
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: Why even bother with the kickoff? Why about this point

728
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: at this point you know what? You know why they're

729
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: doing it just so you can say we're kicking off. Wait,

730
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen? Where are we with that? They never

731
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: approved that, right?

732
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: I prove that to not? I prove that, So now

733
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: we still have this hang.

734
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: On a second, Okay, how could you not approve the

735
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen when you have this right? Oh, it's

736
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: okay to kick off when it's an on side kick,

737
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: when people can really get hurt. Those are nasty injuries happen.

738
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: Those are the nastiest big kickoffs. So go ahead, And

739
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a proponent of the fourth and

740
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: fifteen in other words, the one down fifteen yards to

741
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: go from your own what twenty five was it or

742
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: twenty something like that instead of the on side kick

743
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: or in addition to that option when you are down

744
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: a score.

745
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have that as a possibility, but it got

746
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: shot down. Shutdown.

747
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: That has got to be allowed if you're going to

748
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: negate any kind of kickoff return. And the Texans are

749
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: really good top two in the league and drivest offensive

750
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: defense because they know how to handle these situations.

751
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: But now you're negating that advantage and.

752
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 5: You're exactly and the Texans number one spect teams union

753
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 5: gets penalized for that. So Frank Ross, Sean Baker, they

754
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 5: got to go back to the drawing board, and to me,

755
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 5: what they're going to find out.

756
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: What I think they're gonna find is the hard line

757
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: drive squib kick.

758
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 5: Maybe that's not on the ground immediately, but that is

759
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 5: kind of a three to five feet off the ground

760
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 5: sort of thing, but hits before it gets to a

761
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 5: returner up the middle.

762
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: That's really the only shot you have.

763
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 5: Yes, you're just going to say, you know what, take

764
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 5: the ball out to twenty five, boot it out of

765
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 5: the end zone.

766
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: That's the thing, Johnny. Is it worth it?

767
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: Because a squib of any kind could be taken by

768
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: one of the up man sure, right, and you might

769
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: change the personnel and the upman group if this is

770
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: the case. Because all I'm trying to do is get

771
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: a guy to get his hands on it, right, I

772
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: don't care about blocking anymore. I'm gonna call for a

773
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: fair catch if it's in the year, or let it

774
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: bounce into the end zone if it's long, or I'm

775
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: gonna have one of my hands people in the front

776
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: line grab it and run it across the twenty five

777
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: and slide or something, just so I can get an

778
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: extra few yards. As I say this, who's gonna bother?

779
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: Who wants to bother? With all that, both teams aren't gonna.

780
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: Want to bother.

781
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 5: Here's the thing you've seen football, I have. When a

782
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 5: football is on the ground or moving on the ground,

783
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 5: not a good thing. Not a good thing, because that

784
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 5: thing's bouncing all over the place. And all your basketball

785
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 5: here in the baseball na, those you have to encounter

786
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 5: some spin. But a football you know whereas a basketball

787
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 5: is liked. I think audio description of this is on

788
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 5: the money. Yeah, yeah, that's what a football is doing.

789
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 5: It's like it might go into ren like and then

790
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 5: it's all over the place and you you want your

791
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 5: backs fielding that. No, I would mix a if our

792
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 5: Frank And I'm thinking about the kickoff. I'm thinking there

793
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 5: are two kicks that I make. I kick every kickoff

794
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 5: as best I possibly can between the right down the

795
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 5: numbers at the goal line and tempt them and just

796
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 5: say I'm gonna go ahead, We're gonna kick it to

797
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 5: the five. We're gonna kick between the five and a

798
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 5: goal line. We're a tempt you take a chance of it,

799
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 5: taking a chance of them getting cocky and doing it,

800
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 5: and maybe they don't, maybe they are twenty five. The

801
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 5: other one is I'd work on that squib kick, hard

802
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 5: line drive squib kick.

803
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: See if anybody fields it, maybe they get out of

804
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: the way.

805
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 5: Maybe that gets all the way back to the returner

806
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 5: and now he's got to return it. So that that

807
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 5: would be the one that I would. I would probably

808
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 5: it's one of those two kick Now obviously the third

809
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 5: one is, hey, Kyami, just you know, hit everybody up

810
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 5: there in the south end zone. Just hit everybody up

811
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 5: there in the south in the south end zone. Hit them,

812
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 5: give them the ball to twenty five, you know. But

813
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 5: you can tempt them. You can guarantee you return with

814
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 5: the squibkick. You can tempt to return with the sky

815
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 5: mortar kick inside the five, and then you just put

816
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 5: it out the back of the ends of the twenty five.

817
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 5: But the key is still going to be They're gonna

818
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 5: still be some teams that want to return it, because

819
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 5: I guarantee you there will be some special teams units

820
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 5: that are like, well, we're just gonna blast out of

821
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 5: the end zone and their special teams units aren't as good.

822
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 5: But then you're gonna come up against hopefully us, and

823
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 5: we're gonna have better special teams, and there's gonna be

824
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 5: a windy day somewhere and we get a chance to

825
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 5: return it, and we're taking advantage of that because we're

826
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 5: getting the ball out to the thirty or thirty five

827
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 5: because your cover teams are not as good because you're

828
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 5: not used to it.

829
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: It's the business. It's coming. The kickoff is going to

830
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 2: come to an end at some point.

831
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: Because the swid thing creates more injury possibilities, yes, and

832
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: windy day kickoff opportunity not the ideal situation either. Just

833
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: get rid of it, although then you won't be able

834
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: to say kickoff anymore. You'll have to say start time

835
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: or whatever.

836
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, ceremony, but you brow, now you've got in my

837
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 5: head with that whole on site kick thing, because that,

838
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 5: to me, the most dangerous play I think in football

839
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 5: is the on site.

840
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: It's unnatural, it's not it's target practice.

841
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: Yes, it's target practice. It's really awkward. Violent.

842
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: You know, some tackles are violent, yet they seem a

843
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: little bit more natural, natural way to fall and break

844
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: your fall and that kind of thing.

845
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 5: This is, this is ten yards pit, this is ten

846
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 5: yards apart, and there are five guys, five guys, and

847
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 5: then there's a guy behind him that's the designated catcher,

848
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 5: and those five guys have to go across to each other.

849
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 5: It's to me, that's I just that's the one that

850
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 5: that bothers me, uh from from that standpoint. But owners

851
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 5: saw it one way, competition committee saw it a certain way.

852
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: So away we go. Because apparently the coaches.

853
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 5: And the special teams, coaches and players were not they

854
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 5: were not about this action they did that were not

855
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 5: about that action.

856
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Boss.

857
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: All right, other stuff going on around the league, including

858
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: but not limited to what going on in Nashville and

859
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady thing that I mentioned earlier. Will have

860
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: that for you next Texans Radio. All right, final Fast

861
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: and Furious segment here on Texans All Access tonight, Mark

862
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: VanderMeer and John Harris. Johnny in Nashville today, what kind

863
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: of issues are they seeing at the quarterback position?

864
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Paul Koharski, our buddy who he had on

865
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 5: with us to combine. He just said Will Levis period

866
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 5: had some accurate accuracy issues today.

867
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: Aha, Well, feel like it's early.

868
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 5: That was a movie that we saw, ready, So I

869
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 5: mean we'll yeah, we'll see. Here's the thing, you know,

870
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Speaker 5: the more I thought about this, it's all about where

871
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 5: a guy lands. I actually think in Tennessee that might

872
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 5: not be a bad spot for them. I mean, if

873
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 5: they if they want to be, hey, we're gonna run

874
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 5: it forty times a game and throw it fifteen and

875
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 5: that's our that's you know, fifteen to twenty. You know,

876
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 5: that's our success rate. He might he might be okay

877
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 5: with that, But in a place where you're gonna throw

878
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 5: it thirty to thirty five times. I just don't see

879
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 5: where he's going to be a positive for them in

880
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 5: any way, shape or form.

881
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: So we'll find out. And Dereck Henry, what do you

882
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: say to the media today.

883
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 5: Oh, Derrick Henry was allowed to Oh. No, Derek Henry

884
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 5: is off limits to the media today. But they were

885
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 5: talking to Jeffrey Simmons, Chaga Konkwo and Chris Moore and

886
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 5: Chris Moore former texts and Chris Moore's former texts. I

887
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 5: love Chris, he said it more derisively. Yeah, that he

888
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 5: was not all that happy to see Chris Moore up

889
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 5: there when there were probably some other players I want

890
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 5: to talk to, especially Derrick Henry.

891
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: But that's said. I think Chris Moore will do some

892
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: good things for them.

893
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 5: I hated seeing him go to Tennessee, but I was

894
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 5: glad that Chris Moore got another gig in the NFL.

895
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 5: I loved what Chris Moore brought to this team for

896
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 5: two years. Yep, he will always be I told him this,

897
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 5: he will always be one of my favorites. I loved

898
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 5: him come out of Cincinnati. He just he's the epino

899
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 5: me a football player. Like the same game that he

900
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 5: caught ten passes against the Dallas Cowboys, he pinned the

901
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 5: ball down at the one yard down, the ball at

902
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 5: the one yard line being.

903
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: A gunner a punt. I mean that, like, that's a

904
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: football player. To me. That's what I loved him for.

905
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: That he is in a group of guys to have

906
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: been Texans for the twenty one and twenty two season

907
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: that I really appreciate the work they put in. That

908
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: they were good guys and good players and willing to

909
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: play special teams. And there's a group of defensive and

910
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: some offensive players obviously because it's special teams, folks, it's

911
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: a mix, but more defensively. I look at some of

912
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: these guys, you know, and we turned on the myth Yeah,

913
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: we talked about them yesterday and I'll always appreciate what

914
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: they did and how.

915
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: Nice they were to us.

916
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: And you know, we knew it was tough times, but

917
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: we were all doing stuff together and it was good.

918
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: All right. Tom Brady gets to buy a piece of

919
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: the Raiders.

920
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: You know, I always thought that he took less money

921
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: with the Patriots because what was my theory, Johnny, that

922
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: someday Robert Kraft was going to give a little island

923
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: in Fiji. That's yes, because he didn't take all that money.

924
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: But I was joking about the Fiji island. I actually

925
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: thought somehow he gets a piece of the team, that

926
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: he gets that opportunity. And I'm not so sure how

927
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: this happened and why it wouldn't be New England. Maybe

928
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: the Crafts don't want to sell it piece of the team.

929
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: There are probably a lot of reasons for it. Maybe

930
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: it's a red flag, or maybe it's just not gonna

931
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: happen anyway, and he doesn't even want it. He'd rather

932
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Speaker 1: have a piece of the Raiders in Vegas, and maybe

933
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Speaker 1: it's a big piece. I don't know how big a

934
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Speaker 1: piece it is, because how big a piece can you afford.

935
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: I know he's got a lot of money.

936
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Speaker 1: He's made a lot of money over the year's endorsements

937
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: and salary, even though he's taken less money. But it's

938
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: an interesting story to me because I'm surprised more players

939
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: don't get the chance to do it with their franchises.

940
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: You don't have to give them a huge piece. I

941
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: would love to.

942
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Speaker 1: Own point one percent of the Texans. That would be

943
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 1: really cool.

944
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean absolutely be like a Packers fan, could

945
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 5: you could own I think I don't know how.

946
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Speaker 1: Many o's I just said, but it's still going to

947
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: be a pretty good chunk, and I think the growth

948
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: rate would be very satisfying.

949
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 5: Well, more and more athletes are more and more athletes

950
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 5: and entertainers, people with money, with a lot of money.

951
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: They're investing in a lot of different sports.

952
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 5: Ryan Reynolds and Rob mcloney from It's Alway Sunny in Philadelphia,

953
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 5: they invested in Wrexham.

954
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: Well you were telling me about the LA women's team. Yeah.

955
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 5: Angels City is a great documentary on HBO. Natalie Portman

956
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 5: started it. She wanted to build a new expansion soccer

957
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 5: team in LA and it was incredible documentary. But they

958
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 5: have Serena Williams on board, they have Jennifer Garner, they

959
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 5: have obviously naw the Portman, she's the main investor. So

960
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 5: Eli Manning was an investor in the Gotham FC, the

961
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 5: NWSL team in New York City.

962
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: So there are more and more former athletes.

963
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Speaker 5: The JJ Watt with Burnley, you know now in the

964
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 5: Premier League, they're getting involved in sports ownership and I

965
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 5: feel like That's one of the ways where athletes can

966
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 5: stay near the game. They can be invested with the

967
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 5: team in some certain capacity, yet they don't have to

968
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 5: play the game, and they.

969
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: Don't have to coach, so they don't have to go.

970
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 5: Through that stress that they have to have, and yet

971
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 5: they can still feel the excitement of wins and losses

972
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 5: and things like that.

973
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Speaker 1: By the way, I went to missus Watt's former team

974
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Speaker 1: her their game the Dash, Yeah on Saturday night. How

975
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: was that? That was cool? I liked the Dash Yeah.

976
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't do well that night, but I

977
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Speaker 1: thought it was.

978
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Speaker 2: Cool to be there.

979
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Speaker 1: It's a good product, man, cool experience and great sport obviously.

980
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: And I think I don't know anything about the women's

981
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: leagues around the planet, but the women's league here has

982
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: to be very good because our women's team is awesome,

983
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: and why wouldn't it be.

984
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a really good product NWSL And

985
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 5: I you know, watching that documentary Angel City was very

986
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 5: very cool in enlightning, So we'll check it out.

987
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Speaker 2: Okay, more viewing picks tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: That's going to do it for tonight's show, which will

989
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: be up on podcasts soon enough. So take advantage of

990
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: it there and listen to all the former programs, former programs,

991
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: other programs that we have as well.

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Speaker 2: Have a great night everyone, Go Texans.