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Speaker 1: Problem solved? Is it Pat? Is it Pat? Oh? My goodness,

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Speaker 1: it's put DeAndre open? He caught it for a duckdown.

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Speaker 1: Problem solved, tuck down, Tyler Murray. That defender is in

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Speaker 1: multiple pieces? All that was nasty? Right there? Rights the

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Speaker 1: latest news and notes from the guys who cover the teams.

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Speaker 1: Rilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling. Bring it on,

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Speaker 1: Bring it on. Slam the ground by Fota Baker Like

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Speaker 1: a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I scared

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Speaker 1: of nobody. Here's Paul Calvic. You guys thought the stock

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Speaker 1: market tank today? Just way to this edition of Cardinals Underground.

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Speaker 1: How about that for an intro? Because come on now,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if the Cardinals can win their first two

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Speaker 1: road games in a season for just the third time

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Speaker 1: in the last thirty years, right if Kyler can become

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Speaker 1: the first quarterback in team history team history to complete

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Speaker 1: eighty percent of his passes in two straight games. Really,

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Speaker 1: if Jackson Deville can bungee jump off the top of

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Speaker 1: that college stadium in Week three to get things rolling

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Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. If Sean mcvayh can be forty and

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Speaker 1: oh when leading at halftime, and if at a penalty

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Speaker 1: Who's with me, Darren Urban and Phelipe Baker al Jr.

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Speaker 1: That was inspired about? That was an inspired intro. Now

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Speaker 1: go run through that wall. Okay, there's that's all I

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Speaker 1: got for a motivation. PAULI Pep talk there. You don't

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Speaker 1: do that in the NFL. Didn't you listen to Cliff

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Speaker 1: last week? Cliff was saying last week, that's that's what

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Speaker 1: you do that guys run through walls in college. That

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Speaker 1: through any walls for you. I started visualizing Paul jumping

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Speaker 1: off at the top of that the Jacksonville Stadium, as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, without the cord. Wow, there's some animosity in

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Speaker 1: there is really with malice, I guess is what you're

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Speaker 1: insinuating there wouldn't be bad intentions. He goes, I pictured

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Speaker 1: Paul jumping off. I'm like, yeah, I mean I knew you,

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Speaker 1: I knew, but that just seemed very yikes. What was

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Speaker 1: the year? It was? Midway through his career, right, Larry Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 1: There was the video man Jackson Deville of Larry Fitzgerald

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Speaker 1: bungee jumping off some bridge. I have that picture. It's no,

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Speaker 1: it's some tower in New Zealand what it was? And

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Speaker 1: What is he doing? If he can't water ski, he

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Speaker 1: certainly can't bungee jump off the Eiffel Tower. Look, every

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Speaker 1: single one of the and I shouldn't say every single one,

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Speaker 1: And I'm fairly certain that standard language. Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 1: up to play basketball pickup style, right, who's the best

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Speaker 1: I've said it on these airwaves before, how he wasn't

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Speaker 1: Josh McCown was every bit of athlete as every other

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Speaker 1: Jack stumped by Michael. There there's no video of this.

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Speaker 1: want to see Darren hoop. Back then I was another

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Speaker 1: if Darren fifty pounds ago, I mean, we're like closer

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Speaker 1: to Oliver Miller. I mean, what are you saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: September to remember? How about that for a headline? As

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Speaker 1: did I like the nasty out of Max Garcia. He

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Speaker 1: was he was bringing a bit of an edge when

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Speaker 1: he filled in there. Sean Harlow came in and seemed

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Speaker 1: to quote himself, well, Kyler was not sacked, right, he

429
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Speaker 1: was not sack to Jacksonville. They liked Sean Harlow in

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Speaker 1: training camp, and I'll be interesting to see kind of

431
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Speaker 1: how how that flows, whether Justin Pugh can possibly go,

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Speaker 1: whether either Len Beacham or Justin Murray can go, because

433
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Speaker 1: remember it's it's not like you only need one of

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Speaker 1: those guys because Josh Jones is out there. So you know,

435
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Speaker 1: is Josh Jones gonna stay at right tackle or you know,

436
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Speaker 1: because Justin Murray's back, or is potentially Kevin Beacham back,

437
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Speaker 1: you put Josh Jones at right guard and if those happen,

438
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: you know, does Max Garcia a flip to the left

439
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Speaker 1: side or do you keep Sean Harlow at left guard.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be very interesting to see, Like you said,

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Speaker 1: what the offensive line looks like. I gotta say that

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Speaker 1: given the guard situation, you got to be happy that

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson is in the middle there. Oh yeah, right,

444
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: just Rodney Hudson this year going against Aaron Donald. That

445
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Speaker 1: is very reassuring, is it not. But here's the thing

446
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Speaker 1: in Cliff Kingsbury confirmed this after the game that they

447
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Speaker 1: saw a lot of zone coverage and three and four

448
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Speaker 1: man rush. They're not even though Jacksonville had gone with

449
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: a lot of exotic type of blitzes and bringing numbers

450
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Speaker 1: in the first couple of games, they did not do

451
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Speaker 1: it against Kyler. That seems to be the book right now. Well,

452
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: he's killing the blitz, yes, So so teams have a

453
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Speaker 1: dad and they're going was zone coverage, which it was

454
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: funny did you see did you watching the Peyton and

455
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Speaker 1: Eli Manning cast and the Money in Football and how

456
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Speaker 1: both admitted they'd much rather go against man coverage than zone. Sure,

457
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Speaker 1: and so it's easier to decipher there you go, especially

458
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Speaker 1: for younger quarterbacks. So they're going to continue seeing that

459
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: which makes it remarkable that Kyler has a completion percentage

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Speaker 1: of eighty percent plus in the last two games, first

461
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Speaker 1: time in team history that a quarterback has done that,

462
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Speaker 1: which is hard to believe considering Kurt Warner, Carson Palmer,

463
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Speaker 1: Neil Lomax, whoever you want to throw out there, Jim Hart.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, and they're not all within five

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Speaker 1: yards of the line of scrimmage either. He's gone down

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Speaker 1: the field. In fact, I would say, and you got

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Speaker 1: you know, and I looked this up. The guy who's

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Speaker 1: killing him on the completion percentage is DeAndre Hopkins. When

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Speaker 1: it comes to targets versus receptions. Now, I looked at it.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen targets, thirteen catches this year by d Hop. It

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Speaker 1: was just this last game where he has six targets,

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Speaker 1: three catches. AJ Green eighteen targets, just ten catches. But

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Speaker 1: obviously their chemistry was much better than last two games

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Speaker 1: versus the first game, so you know, you gotta figure, okay,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get in sync. Now, whether we didn't see

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Speaker 1: some of that chemistry you're used to seeing between d

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Speaker 1: Hop and Kyler, and maybe that's something. The fact that

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Speaker 1: d Hop missed all a practice with the rib injury.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that came to fruition in the game. That's at

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Speaker 1: least what I was thinking sitting there on the sideline. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is what happens when you're not on the practice

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Speaker 1: field all week. It's going to be interesting that. That's

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Speaker 1: another thing, like, was he bothered by those ribs when

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Speaker 1: he was playing? Did that hamper him at all? Was

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Speaker 1: it or was it just the fact that he missed practice.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard to tell. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny somebody I don't know if they're

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Speaker 1: just a DeAndre Hopkins fan or he's on their fantasy

489
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Speaker 1: team or whatever, but he was like, look, this is

490
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Speaker 1: getting ridiculous. They're not getting the ball to DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: They have to do this, and I believe that DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins has to do something about it. But he needs

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Speaker 1: to he needs to throw some things on the side line.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, and he goes, I know you'll disagree with this, Darren.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I am going to disagree with it.

496
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Speaker 1: So you think the right thing for a wide receiver

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Speaker 1: to do would be throw a public fit when the

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Speaker 1: team is winning and they're averaging thirty points in four

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Speaker 1: hundred yards of offensive game. I don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: why you would think that would be a good idea.

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Speaker 1: I always think going t o or ocho cinco is productive,

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Speaker 1: you know, throwing just a you know, a pamper diva

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Speaker 1: wide receiver fit on the sideline. Me me, me, yeah,

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Speaker 1: especially when the rest of the guys in that wide

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Speaker 1: receiver group are producing the way that they're producing. The

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Speaker 1: last thing you want to make it about yourself. At

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Speaker 1: halftime though, the question of Cliff Kingsbury was all right,

508
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Speaker 1: what's ailien the offense? And he said, no rhythm and

509
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Speaker 1: he said inconsistent play calling. He put it on himself.

510
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Speaker 1: And then on his Coaches show, I asked him there

511
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Speaker 1: was the two minute warning, victory was in hand, and

512
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Speaker 1: he went over to Kyler and gave him a fist

513
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Speaker 1: bump and they had a long conversation, and I said,

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Speaker 1: and not so many words, So, coach, is it classified

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Speaker 1: info if we ask you about And in the past

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Speaker 1: when I've used that phraseology if you will, he's always

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Speaker 1: coming out and said yes, before he even here's a question,

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Speaker 1: says yes, it's classified info. Now this time he entertained

519
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: it and I said can you share what you and

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00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: Kyler talked about at length of the two minute morning

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Speaker 1: And he sort of paused, and he smiled. He said,

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Speaker 1: I actually talked to him about how I'm striving to

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Speaker 1: be better with my play calling. So the head coach

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Speaker 1: continues to be hard on himself with his play callings

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Speaker 1: cited at halftime with the TV reporter and then after

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Speaker 1: the game. So he's still hard on himself. Now, maybe

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Speaker 1: he has Sean mcvah in mine because those two and

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Speaker 1: Sean mcvagh is considered one of the best play callers

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Speaker 1: in the league, and those guys are close, and that

530
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Speaker 1: matchup is coming up. But it's really funny though, because

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Speaker 1: last week, if you recall Paul early in the week

532
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Speaker 1: when we started talking about to Kyler about the scramble

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Speaker 1: plays and how effective they had been in those first

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Speaker 1: two games, and Cliff basically said, I don't have any

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Speaker 1: ego as a play caller, because I've learned that it

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Speaker 1: doesn't If it works, it works, and then it's all good,

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00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work whatever. Now I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: they're they're on the parallel tracks, because you can not

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Speaker 1: have an ego and still be hard on yourself. I

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Speaker 1: just again, I go back to for all the faults

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Speaker 1: that Cliff Kingsbury that people think Cliff Kingsbury has as

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00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: a head coach, I've liked this from the day he

543
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: walked in, where it does not feel like he has

544
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: an ego. He truly wants the team as a group

545
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Speaker 1: to be good and if he gets credit for it, fine,

546
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Speaker 1: but it's not going to bother him if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: get credit, and he just wants it all to work

548
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: out in the best way and he doesn't care how

549
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: it happens. I love that about him. I'm glad you

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00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: mentioned that he kind of took it upon himself to

551
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Speaker 1: make that remark because I was watching Sunday Night Football

552
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: as many of us where, and you just see the

553
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Speaker 1: production that Davante Adam has had on that specific game.

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Speaker 1: And I want to see that from Deanja Hopkins, you know,

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Speaker 1: especially against the ram Super Bowl contender. I want to

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Speaker 1: see a hundred yard performance from five to eight catches

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00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: or whatnot on the biggest stages of them all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: a lot of his passes have been hitch routes, have

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Speaker 1: been crossing routes. You can aim at a lot of

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00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: short passing you know, scenarios, but I do want to see,

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Speaker 1: you know, a go route. I want to see a

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Speaker 1: explosive play at twenty five yard gainer and whatnot. They

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00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: they had one dialed up and Max Williams just sold

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00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: it horribly. Otherwise that would have been a great play call.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, Max, you gotta be better than that.

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Speaker 1: But that was a beautiful pass. But that just happened

567
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Speaker 1: to be the one point where I was standing there

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Speaker 1: side of the ball was coming like right abby And

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Speaker 1: it's amazing when there's a bunch of six foot six

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Speaker 1: sixty seven offensive lineman d lineman and the ball just

571
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Speaker 1: literally comes out of nowhere and it's right on the money. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in stride. I mean, that was such a nice plan.

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Speaker 1: It's too bad at how to come back. But I'll

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Speaker 1: also say that, you know, I think it's to me

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Speaker 1: it's nuanced about the Hopkins thing. Do they need to

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Speaker 1: get them the ball more? Yes, But like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: there were games last year where he had a bunch

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Speaker 1: of catches and it didn't super impact the game because

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Speaker 1: it felt like they were just trying to get him

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Speaker 1: the ball. There's a very very fine line. There is

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Speaker 1: between working somebody in the offense and so you are

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Speaker 1: super successful and you know, and just doing it to

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Speaker 1: do it. And I understand what you're saying about Devantre Adams.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't able to watch most of the game because

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Speaker 1: we were still in the air, but I obviously I

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Speaker 1: saw the end and that was incredible. And I do

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00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: think in certain times I think Kyler should look a

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00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: little bit more towards DeAndre Hopkins. But again I can't complain.

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Speaker 1: I take the third the one third down conversion they

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Speaker 1: had in Jacksonville, which was I got AJ Green one

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Speaker 1: on one, I'm gonna throw him a jump ball and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, go get it. I don't have a

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Speaker 1: problem with that. And in most case, most of the

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Speaker 1: time you're saying you should be looking for DeAndre Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: but Aj Green can make that play and he did.

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Speaker 1: You think about though, last year, remember that week, I

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Speaker 1: believe it was Week fifteen against the Eagles, the type

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Speaker 1: of game DeAndre Hopkins had, and remember that the explosive,

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Speaker 1: the explosive yardage that he had on certain passes, and

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Speaker 1: how at ease they won that specific game, And you

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Speaker 1: kind of thought to yourself out then they're heading into

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Speaker 1: the right direction going into the last two weeks of

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Speaker 1: the season, and then you kind of saw a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a drop off in the last two weeks

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Speaker 1: of the season. Obviously Kylie was hurt in the last

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Speaker 1: regular season game, but I think of those that specific

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Speaker 1: timeframe of how productive DeAndre Hopkins was against the Eagles

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Speaker 1: and then that slight drop off against the Niners and

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Speaker 1: the Rams, and the difference that made in those last

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Speaker 1: three weeks of the season, because obviously they were trying

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Speaker 1: to get into the postseason and whatnot. So and I

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Speaker 1: even think back to Week one, I mean, he was dominant,

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Speaker 1: and look at how easy they won that game and

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Speaker 1: how dominant they were on offense. And not to say

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Speaker 1: that they haven't been dominant in the last three weeks,

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Speaker 1: which they have obviously thirty points in each of those games,

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Speaker 1: but just the princess of DeAndre Hopkins had a very

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00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: efficient game in Week one and the result and how

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Speaker 1: easy that the Cardinals won in that in Week one

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Speaker 1: against the Titans, and then just in these last two weeks,

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Speaker 1: it seems like they show the bit maybe there's a

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Speaker 1: theme there, and maybe there's maybe I'm overthinking and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: But against Jalen Ramsey, I'm pretty sure he circled that

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Speaker 1: specific game. All right, then I'm on the road on

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00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: Ramsey Island. Let's see. Yeah, and last year Week seventeen

626
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: at the Rams against Jalen Ramsey. So here we go again,

627
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: and you'll see. I'm intrigued still by what Kyler said

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Speaker 1: after the Minnesota game when he was asked about no

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Speaker 1: targets for DeAndre Hopkins in the last three quarters, and

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Speaker 1: he said, yeah, we need to move him around. And

631
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Speaker 1: when he ended up on the right side for at

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Speaker 1: least one player there probably there were probably no but

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Speaker 1: and that's why I bring it up because it was

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Speaker 1: so notable. I noticed it. You noticed it in the

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Speaker 1: press box. I noticed on the sideline. Jim Mo Mohendro

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Speaker 1: beat me to it in my headset from the producer's booth.

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Speaker 1: M said, hey, lookay, you got DAP on the right side.

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Speaker 1: That's how noticeable it was. So is that going to

639
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: happen with more frequency? Because you know, Kyler said it himself,

640
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: did he Is he going to speak it into existence?

641
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: What exactly does that mean? You know? That's what's intriguing

642
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: to me, because if you're asking me about concerns this week.

643
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: You know, a week ago we said, yes, the fact

644
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: the Vikings were able to neutralize both Chandler Jones and

645
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. We cited, you know, they didn't have a

646
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: great week of practice, and the head coach said, we

647
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: came out flat. We cited those elements right now, Darren,

648
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: you mentioned it. Third down. They went one for nine

649
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville. They were three for nine against Minnesota. And

650
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: so the Rams meanwhile are converting over fifty four percent

651
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: of their third downs. And here's the stat you really

652
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: need to be scared of. Be afraid, be very afraid

653
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: of a Rams offense that is scoring on an NFL

654
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: best fifty eight point six percent of their drives, on

655
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: more than fifty eight percent of their drives they are scoring.

656
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: That is ridiculous. Well, I mean again, they're playing at

657
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: a super high level. Can this defense hold up? Can

658
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: they find a way to get to Matthew Stafford, who

659
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: is going to be less active running around back there

660
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: than Trevor Lawrence, but obviously a better quarterback, you know,

661
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Speaker 1: can you get there? Um? I thought there were times

662
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Speaker 1: when the pressure did make things tough for Trevor Lawrence,

663
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Speaker 1: but there was other times where I'm like, Okay, you

664
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Speaker 1: need to get a little moment more pressure on him

665
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: right now. Um, you know, can can that happen? I

666
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: think that's a great, great thing to watch. And I

667
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: don't think the Ram. I mean, the Rams are gonna

668
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: be okay on the ground, but they're not gonna I mean,

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Speaker 1: James Robinson is better than running back that the Rams

670
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Speaker 1: have right now? Now, So can you do some things?

671
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: Can you maybe forced Matt Stafford into a turnover here

672
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: or there? I mean, I'm it's it's gonna be fascinating

673
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: and all that being said, I still I need to

674
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: know what this offense is going to be able to

675
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 1: do against that defense, because I feel like against the Rams,

676
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: that's that's where this team is really struggled. Is any

677
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: kind of consistency. Kyler doesn't have great games against them. Um,

678
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: we talked about the offensive line situation. You know, can

679
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: can he make some things happen? I'm very curious about that.

680
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: But see that's my point when I said that the

681
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 1: best players on this team have to perform the best

682
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: because if the Rams are playing at this high level,

683
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: because their best players are being highly you know, effective,

684
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup leads the NFL in yards right and receiving yards.

685
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. Stafford is one of the top quarterbacks arguably

686
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: so far in the NFL season. Aaron Donald continues to

687
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: perform at a high level. Those are three key guys

688
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: on that on that roster that keep producing and that's

689
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: why the Rams are three and no. So now you

690
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: you make the argument or you make the I pose

691
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: a question. Imagine if Deando Hopkins, if Challenge Jones played

692
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: like they played in Week one against the Rams, against

693
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: the Vikings, against the Jaguars, those victories come with these right,

694
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: So hopefully we see that in Week four. I'm intriguing

695
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: and you won't get a kick six? Right, I mean,

696
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: come on now, right weekend. If there's one prediction I'm

697
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: willing to make and go out on that bungee jump

698
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: like Jackson Deville, Okay, it's that there won't be another

699
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: kick six, considering we have not seen one in the

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Speaker 1: NFL since two thousand and seven. So if it's the

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Speaker 1: end of the first half and they're facing a sixty

702
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: five yard field goal attempt, do you do not think

703
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: he'll try it? Indoors yes, outdoors no? And since this

704
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: is a so far and by the way, that is

705
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: a glorious stadium. That is an unreal stadium. It'll be

706
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: interesting to see with people. It shows what six plus

707
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: billion dollars can buy. That's how much. That's the price

708
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: tag on that thing. Think about that. The Cardinals State

709
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: Farm Stadium circa two thousand and five, two thousand and

710
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: six costs just under half a billion dollars five hundred

711
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: million or so. The Rams who went in thinking they

712
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: were going to spend three billion ended up spending six

713
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: plus billion dollars in that stadium. But see that was

714
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: to me. When Prater trotted out there from the sideline,

715
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: a couple of things that will work. Number one, there

716
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: was a slight breeze a little bit, just a little bit.

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00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: And also there was a face. It was sort of

718
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: a cross sort of. It was sort of from left

719
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: or right just a little bit. It wasn't completely still.

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00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: There was human. The air was human, not like Nashville,

721
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: but a little enough. There's a little heavy air a

722
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: little bit, and you know, you just don't have that.

723
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: It was indoor conditions. So that's the only thing that

724
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: gave me a little uncertainty as he went out there.

725
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: So when I was younger, I used to like lick

726
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: my finger and put in there to kind of see

727
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: where the air is coming from. Is that what you

728
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: did on the field? Is that how you know there

729
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: was a slight breeze coming in? All I had to

730
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: do was go selfie with my phone and see the

731
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: frizz factor on my hair. That's all I needed to do.

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00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: That's that's all I really needed, you know, for But

733
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: that I mean, and honestly, I didn't think about this.

734
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: So I saw one of the writers point this out

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00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: about the whole James Harrison connection. I honestly did not

736
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: think of Super Bowl forty three when that went down.

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00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. When he was going down the sideline,

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Speaker 1: that's the first thing I thought of us. I'm like,

739
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: I'm sitting box and I'm like, again, yeah, just somebody

740
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: push him out of bound. And I should have thought

741
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: of it, because all you saw a weekend long and

742
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: NFL Network was the James Harrison this is my football

743
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: life on all lud. I mean, that's all you saw.

744
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: And so you saw that stinking highlight over and over

745
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: all weekend and the Cardinals visiting team Hotel, and it's

746
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: like somebody changed the station already because this James Harrison

747
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: documentary won't stop playing. But and here was the other thing.

748
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: That return man had house to kickoff return the week before.

749
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: He's one of the best return guys. So when I

750
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: saw him under the goal posts, I'm like, oh boy,

751
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: this this this dude jamal Agnew he took one back

752
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: the week before, and you got a bunch of offensive

753
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: linemen and tight ends on this field. It was risky,

754
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. I know it was risky. Although

755
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: if you look, I'm gonna channel my inner Kyle Odegard

756
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: here because I reached out to one analytics guy who

757
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 1: didn't who basically said that there aren't enough sixty yard

758
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: field goal attempts of all time to really have a

759
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: proper way to measure if it's a good or a

760
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: bad idea. So there's that. But also, you know, I

761
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: started thinking because everybody was talking about okay, to me,

762
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: the arguments were, you make the field goal, you miss

763
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: the field goal, you miss the field goal and he

764
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: returns it all the way for a touchdown, or you

765
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: try a hail Mary. I mean, those are basically the

766
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: outcomes that potentially could happen, And there was another site

767
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: that did crunch the whether they should go for it

768
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: versus being returned all the way for a touchdown on

769
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: the last play, and the math said the odds were

770
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: you had better odds to get a field goal out

771
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Speaker 1: of that than to give up a kick six, So

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Speaker 1: you know it's it was called a defensible decision by them.

773
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: The other guy I talked to said, I can understand

774
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: why he went for it, especially if Jeff Rogers and

775
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: Matt Prater are saying he can do this, which they were.

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00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, I just don't. I know. Fans

777
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: were upset. I know that it was risky obviously, and

778
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: it was worst case scenario that came out of it.

779
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: But how much did he miss by I saw one

780
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: report said he was like a yard shy. I saw

781
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: the reports he missed it by a wide margin. When

782
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm field level, it's very hard to tell at the

783
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: far end of the field how ended up I was. Basically,

784
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: I was basically along the lines. I think that would

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00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: have been good by six. At sixty five or sixty six,

786
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: he might have ended up with the same situation as Tucker,

787
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: whereas at sixty six it might have hit the crossbar.

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00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: By the way, my sister, who knows not about sports

789
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: as a Detroit native, I showed her the video that

790
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker game winner against her Lions, okay little Gallow's

791
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: humor to show her how her Lions lost this week,

792
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: and when it hit the crossbar, she said, is that allowed?

793
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: Is that allowed? And yes, that is allowed. You can

794
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: hit the crossbar and it can go through. So it

795
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: was harsh. Yeah, she thought maybe Justin Tucker was cheating.

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00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't know if he was

797
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: like right on the I mean, can it can only

798
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: go so far because Agnew had to have a way

799
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: to catch it and not be out of bounds. But

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00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: he was definitely as about as close to the out

801
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: of bounds line as you could get, and he did

802
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: have to kind of reach one of those reach back

803
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: things to get it and then go forward. So I

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00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: don't know. And based on and we have an interviewed

805
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: Matt Prader, right, he hasn't spoken about it. I have

806
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: not had a chance to talk to him. Just based

807
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: on his body language on the sideline, I'm just gonna

808
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: take a flier that he didn't feel like he hit

809
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: that as good as he could have that he did

810
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: not quite He didn't get that. He didn't connect with

811
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 1: that like he did the week before on a fuel

812
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: goal that arguably could have gone seventy yards. Although was

813
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: this week before pick kick six when when you saw

814
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: this body language, Yes, it was both kick six, sort

815
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: of explain it to other guys, Okay, maybe what happened.

816
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: So that's just sort of doesn't it give you a

817
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: certain amount of confidence that they went they actually went

818
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: for it at that point? Do you think last year? So?

819
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: I think there's some optimism in that regard, just the

820
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: fact that you have that confidence in your kicker. And

821
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: if let's be honest, if the if it's ten ten

822
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: at that point with the kick six, the fans aren't

823
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: gonna be gonna be mad. I think there was a

824
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: lot of outrage just because they were down at the

825
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: half against a Yeah. No, there's no question. There's no

826
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: question that the way it turned out, And and let's

827
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: also face it, do they try that if they're playing Rams,

828
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah No, probably not. That's one of those things where

829
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, look, you know, worst case scenario they get.

830
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're saying this but in the back

831
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: of their head, maybe worst case scenario, there's a kick six,

832
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: We're down seven, it's gonna suck. But I mean, come on,

833
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: we're playing the Jaguars. So I had to ask the

834
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: question of the head coach. I'm thinking, well, how do

835
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: I ask this question about to kick six? Because he's

836
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: gonna get this question a million times? So I get

837
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: in my face, kicked in And here was my question.

838
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: It was when it comes to scenarios, nightmare scenarios, scenarios,

839
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: I can keep a head coach up at night. Where

840
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: does a kick six rank? Right before the half? So right?

841
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the kind of thing that is going

842
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 1: to weigh on a coach's mind and in the middle

843
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: of the night, there's no doubt about it. Here's the

844
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: other thing. They came out of half and what happened.

845
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray threw a pick. See I have I have

846
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: a bigger problem with that play than I do the kick.

847
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Speaker 1: Here's where I'm going with this, in honor of Kyle

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Speaker 1: and the analytics, our own analytics next Gen Stats courtesy

849
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Speaker 1: of Jim Almajuandro who has noted and this is truth.

850
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: This is fact that Kyler Murray has thrown a pick

851
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: on the first drive of the second half in all

852
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: three games this season. Wow. And then he's followed that

853
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: pick on the first possession of the second half with

854
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: a subsequent touchdown drive. At Tennessee there was the Kirk

855
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk Willie Mays touchdown catch against Minnesota after throwing

856
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: a pick coming out of the locker room. At halftime,

857
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: there was the aj Green touchdown, the check to the

858
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: right flat where aj Green got boom, gave the stiff

859
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: arm and they got it in. And then at Jacksonville

860
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: it was a Prater fuel goal. Actually, so they scored.

861
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: They've led a seas let a scoring drive thereafter following

862
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: the pick. And so that's interesting, is that a halftime

863
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: adjustment by the opponent that catches the quarterback by surprise.

864
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: See I'm gonna just say for Jacksonville in particular, that

865
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: wasn't I mean, they were moving the ball. That's one

866
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: of the reasons that play bothered me so much was

867
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: because they were moving the ball and he took a

868
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: shot that wasn't there and he didn't probably need to do,

869
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: and they were moving the ball. I firmly believe if

870
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: he checks not checks down but throw shorter and to

871
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: somebody who's more open. I think they end up scoring

872
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: a touchdown on that drive. I really do it sounds

873
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: like you, guys, miss Kyle just I just want to

874
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: throw that out there. I feel like every episode, so

875
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: let's just make you guys are just like, oh and

876
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: honor Kyle. No, just the analytics. But remember my hash

877
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: so you don't miss Kyle no no, no no, my

878
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: hashtag for a good twenty years, ever since I got

879
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: crushed in college calculus hashtag no math. So I like

880
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: to control the numbers myself. Okay, when that's fair, you know,

881
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: Kyle would just bring him and you get blindsided like

882
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: I got hit by Mike Golik in a sumo suit.

883
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: Okay that no, I want to be in control of

884
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: the numbers. So that's that's a good thing about But

885
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: that was an interesting factoid about what is going on

886
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: at the same time. Once again, Kyle Murray has had

887
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: an eighty percent plush completion percentage two straight games, which

888
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: has never happened before in Cardinal's history. That's mind boggling

889
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: to me, and that's why it annoys me at when

890
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: people talk about just what he can do with his legs,

891
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: and they forget to mention how explosive he is with

892
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: his arm as well. But I mean, you can't do

893
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: that in week four, right, you can't do that against

894
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: the Rams. Come out of a halftime and you give

895
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: the Rams back the ball. And obviously you mentioned that's

896
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: that of the percentage of the times that they're scoring.

897
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: So there's a little you know, there's a small room

898
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: for area when it comes to playing the Rams. And

899
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: I think that's one area where Kylie Marray needs to improve,

900
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, being selective, being precise, being you know, accurate,

901
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: especially when when you're playing with the Rams. I mean

902
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: in the last four games he has five touchdowns and

903
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: six interceptions against the Rams. Four year games, I should say,

904
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be a there's gonna have to be

905
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: an improvement in that area. What's interesting is the Rams

906
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: defense was number one in the league last year. That's

907
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: total defense, that's total yards allowed, and right now they're

908
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: twentieth in the NFL, the Rams, and uh, you know,

909
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: and that's going against a Bears team and a Colts

910
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: team that's had issues on their old line and obviously

911
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: at quarterbacks. So and then yards allowed after catch has

912
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: been an issue for this Rams defense. So let's not

913
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: crown at Rams defense in twenty twenty one just yet. Well,

914
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: they lost some people in the offseason because they just

915
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: can't afford everybody. But they still have the best cornerback

916
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: in the league and they have arguably the best player

917
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: in the league and Aaron Donald, so you know, and

918
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: Floyd stands out to still a great pass presher, and

919
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, they they're able to move Jalen Ramsey around

920
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh you know, maybe this game will

921
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: be different because they're gonna be like you go get hot,

922
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: but they have at times moved him around. And that's

923
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: a scary proposition because he is good kind of ball hawking,

924
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: and I think Kyler is gonna have to be careful

925
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: ball hawking. There's our segue. Defense. How about the Cardinals

926
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: defense and the rankings through Week three? Takeaways number one,

927
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: forced fumbles number one, fumble recoveries number one, passes defense

928
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: number one, third down percentage Cardinals defense ranks number two.

929
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: How about that? And then sacks are top five and

930
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: there you go. Obviously they were number one in the

931
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: in the world after Week one, but that as any

932
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: But he concerned about the fact that Chandler Jones has

933
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: not registered a sack each of the last two games.

934
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: It's been Marcus Golden who's gotten one each of the

935
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: last two games. Are you concerned? You mentioned it, Darren,

936
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: and I will surprise a little bit that Trevor Lawrence

937
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: had a lot more time to throw than I had anticipated.

938
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say I'm concerned necessarily at this point,

939
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: but I mean, again, there was so much excitement over

940
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: that first game, and you know, you look sacks coming bunches,

941
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: and maybe there's some to come, But you also want

942
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: to be in a position where he's getting pressure. And

943
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: I think he's done that a couple of times and

944
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: at moments. But I think the whole defensive front as

945
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: as a group, whether it's Chandler or JJ Watt or

946
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: any of these guys, I think they need to continue

947
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: to make that push. And again, matt Stafford is not

948
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: a guy who's going to be running around a lot.

949
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: So you hopefully you can cover well enough that those

950
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: guys can get home, because if you don't, it's gonna

951
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: be a long day. That's what I was gonna say.

952
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: If they don't get a Matthew Stafford and he has

953
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: four seconds to throw in the pocket. I mean, it's

954
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a long, long afternoon. But that's that's my

955
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: key to the game. You have to pressure Matthew Stafford.

956
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: You have to collapse that you know, that pocket, because

957
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: if you don't, I mean, they have the best wide

958
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL statistically in Cooper Cup. You have,

959
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, Tyler Higbee has been performing well. You still

960
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: have Robert Woods. So a combination of that is gonna

961
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: give you a long afternoon if you don't necessarily pressure

962
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. You know what, they already saw a quarterback,

963
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback, play at a high level. And Kirk Cousins, Yeah,

964
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: he played really well. Was playing really well this whole series.

965
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: I saw his numbers against Seattle. Although I saw some

966
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: clips of the Viking Seattle game, and if Pete Carroll

967
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: and Seattle doesn't fix that defense, everybody's going to rip

968
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: them apart. I saw some clips where there was one

969
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: play that it's a analy guy who also is a

970
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: Seahawks fan, and he's breaking it down and there was

971
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: a still shot and Kirk Cousins had an open bootleg

972
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: lane like he could probably could have gained eight yards

973
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: if he ran. He had his checkdown guy wide open,

974
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: he had his intermediate guy wide open, he had his

975
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: third level guy down the field wide open. I mean

976
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: he could he could have done any of the four

977
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: things and they would have gained a first down easy,

978
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: if not more. I don't know where the guy went

979
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: on the play, but and there were multiple plays like

980
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: that the Seahawks did. Played just horrific defense in the

981
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: clips that I saw. That's good that story delivered because

982
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: at first I was thinking a Seahawks fan and an

983
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: analytics guy, two of my most despised aspects, and a

984
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: person on there and so you know that was that

985
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: was good. Actually the story was worthwhile, you know, I

986
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm here for you. Yeah. So, But Matthew Stafford, if

987
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: you want numbers, his passer rating is nearly one thirty

988
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: and that's number two to Russell Wilson right now. And

989
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: we know Kirk Cousins I think went for a buck

990
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: twenty five passer rating against the Cardinals somewhere around there.

991
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: And look, rams are all in. We know what they

992
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: did in the offseason. They traded two first round picks

993
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: and former number one pick overall Jared Goff plus a

994
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: third for Matthew Stafford, who's in his early thirties. They

995
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: are all in and they gave him the big contract obviously,

996
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's one hundred million dollars plus corner and Aaron

997
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: Donald and but what you're seeing in this Rams offense

998
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: is what happens when Sean McVeagh gets the top five

999
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: quarterback he's always coveted, and or when Matthew Stafford gets

1000
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: a top five head coach slash play caller that he

1001
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: never had in Detroit. This is what happens. You get

1002
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: a Rams offense that's a juggernaut and a top defense.

1003
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: You forgot that partment, but I think he's the final

1004
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: piece to his puzzle, right, you know, you put Matthew

1005
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: Stafford in that offense, and that's what Sean McVay has

1006
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: dreamed of ever since he took that job, and just

1007
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: the job that Matthew has been able to call him

1008
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: Matthew like I know him. But Stafford has been as

1009
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: we're not calling you Phil as the job he's been doing,

1010
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: understander ever since he got to the Rams is everything

1011
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that McVay has hoped for and then there's

1012
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: i mean obviously less pre snap, motion less wide receiver screens.

1013
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: He's just sitting in the pocket and he's just slinging it.

1014
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the McVay formula. And Biber Murphreel, Marco Wilson,

1015
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: Robert Alfred are going to have to probably have the

1016
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: best game of the entire season to this point if

1017
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: they don't want to be you know, dominated in that secondary. Yeah.

1018
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: And the guy they've added that isn't get a lot

1019
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: of press is DeShawn Jackson. Yeah. And he had the

1020
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: ninth touchdown catch of seventy five yards or more in

1021
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: his career in this last game, and that ties Lance

1022
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: Allworth all time. I know to that because you know,

1023
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: for those of us who follow who for those of

1024
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: us Bambi you don't know, Bamby Philippe, for those of

1025
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: us who followed DeShawn Jackson's alma mater and the fortunes

1026
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: of their football team, we have to go back to

1027
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: guys like de Shawn Jackson or Marshawn Lynch and Aaron

1028
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: Rodgers because there's absolutely nothing about I'll take any of them.

1029
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: Craig Morton from the last Rose Bowl in nineteen fifty eight.

1030
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness, it's that's how bad it is

1031
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: when you're Alma Mater, loses a reno at home and

1032
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: then just gave up thirty plus to Sack State. So

1033
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: that's what happens to guys like me. Paul, you didn't

1034
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: go too so that's that's right, that's right. And did you, Felipe,

1035
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: did you go to Vega? What is he looking at you?

1036
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: And are you wearing that nau loss? Are you wearing?

1037
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: Individuals like over there? I didn't know. I don't know

1038
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: if you got ear hold by Darren on that. That's

1039
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: not any any of a people that might be listening.

1040
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: I got confused by the names you guys were naming

1041
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: of them, like who Steve? What? Craig? Who? What? What

1042
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: is the history channel? Like? What do you google? Is

1043
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: your friends to think about? Just Sean Jackson like thirty

1044
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: four thirty five? The dude can still run? And did

1045
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: you see okay you brought up the Seahawks. Okay, first off,

1046
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: we had coach double Rainbow all these years. You know,

1047
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: his organic his organic antioxidant. Ways, we just don't need

1048
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: the uber energy from a seventy eight year old and

1049
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: all that taking a shirt off with DK back out.

1050
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: And now now it's even worse. Now you got Sean

1051
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: McVay running down the sideline through the end zone into

1052
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: the tunnel to hug it out with DeShawn Jackson after

1053
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: their eight yard touchdown strike, and then after the game

1054
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: Sean mcgay making a comment about how we pulled both hamstrings.

1055
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: The Cardinals need to win this game for the sake

1056
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: of the NFC West, because I think I speak for

1057
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: everyone when everyone is sick and tired these energetic ways

1058
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: of Pete Carroll and Sean McVay. Well, I mean, don't

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00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: be a hater, Paul. I mean Sean mcfay was just

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00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: playing football like five years ago, wasn't he so Okay,

1061
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 1: maybe not five years ago, but yeah, he's still pretty young.

1062
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: Just the unnecessary energy hit the game. I'm tired of it.

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00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: Tired of it. I'm telling me, you know what you

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00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: sound like. You sound like another male bad person who

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00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 1: she wrote in to say, why do all these players

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00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: always do all these dumb celebrations like the Kyler with

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00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: the Yoda and everything. You're embarrassing yourself, you know, just

1068
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: but dutchdown celebrations have been part of the games, you

1069
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: know since here you go Phelipe White shoes Johnson, Okay,

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00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: they've been been a part of the game exactly. Hold on,

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00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: did you not watch the halftime highlights with Chris White?

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00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: Did you miss White? Felipe? For you? What year did

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00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: the NFL begin? For me? No? No, no, that's not

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00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 1: I mean for you, like you could still say before

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00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: you were born if you know about it. But if

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00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: you're like, if you're like I don't know anything about

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00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: the NFL before like two thousand and fifteen, I want

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00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: to say like ninety eight, ninety nine around there when

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00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: there's the Sundala Stadium and my dad still covered the

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00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: team at that point. But there's a difference. What I'm

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00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: saying is there's are you guys with me or against me?

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00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: There's a difference between a player having a celebration in

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00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: a grown man the head coach losing his mind like

1084
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: he's a player. That's what's annoying. I'm interesting to see Wood,

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00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: Darren said. I'll be honest, I don't really. I'm more

1086
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: concerned about like the peak Carrol's of the pulling off

1087
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: the shirt thing. Nobody why why? Why? Peak Carrol's specific

1088
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: because he's older, you're gonna say, like, come on now,

1089
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: like Sean McVay is younger than I am, so like,

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00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if Dan Campbell wants to go ahead and

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00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: flex literally, then you know, okay, I mean, you know,

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00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't really dude is still jacked, I guess, but

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00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: come on, I just I just know that you know,

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00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do those things you you're you will

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00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: potentially set yourself up for embarrassment and or uh, you know,

1096
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: push back when you're on the losing end or whatever,

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00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: or you could get trolled. And that's fine, but I

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00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: don't it doesn't really bother me. Here's what you need

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00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: to read. He's winning, dude. I mean, that's what you

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Speaker 1: do if you have a shirt pocket, which you only

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00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: see your citizens really do if you have a shirt

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00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: pocket and you have to take your readers out and

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00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: your AARP card out before you take off your shirt,

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00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: and you probably shouldn't take off your shirt. That's my

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00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 1: point over here. So you don't like that the coaches

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00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: are hype, but you don't mind that the players are hype. Exactly,

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00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: it's when the coach runs across the field, through the

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00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: end zone and up the tunnel Okay, that that exceeds

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00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like the problem like the coaches

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00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: being hype like on video in his office, I e.

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00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: The Carol taking off the shirt. But if you want

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00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: to do it's it's you're on the field who you

1113
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: know that it's an emotional game and I think it

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00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: should be emotional for coaches too. Well, let me ask

1115
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: you this question. You don't like that. Do you like it? When? Uh?

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00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: Maybe not Cliff, because I know Cliff would never ever

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00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: ever use a cuss word. But when a when a

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00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: coach goes ballistic on a raff and like dresses them

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00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: down and has to beep every other thing out of

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Speaker 1: their mouth, is that okay? And by the way, the

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00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: Cardinal sideline, there were a lot of exports flying around

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00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: on the on the Max Williams flag. They did not

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Speaker 1: like that. Well, they were all, yeah, I don't have

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00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: a problem that. It's the expense that display of But

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00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: but what's the difference? I mean, well, I hear a

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00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: lot of cap coming from cap. I don't know what's

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00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: the difference between that emotion and the emotion of being excited.

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00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: I guess if I have to explain it, I just

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00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm confused that you think they're they're one and the same.

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00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying someone getting getting getting irritated and or blowing

1131
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: a gasket over a play that might cost you a game,

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00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: versus being excited game and running across the field when

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00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: even the players aren't running across the field. Sean Jackson,

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00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: if you're exceeding the players exuberance and emotion and celebration,

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00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: then you need to check yourself, is what I'm saying. Perhaps,

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00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: perhaps I guess. Ultimately, again, I don't if you're showing

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00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: emotion on the field, whether you're yelling at a whether

1138
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: you're yelling at the official, or you're celebrating with your team,

1139
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: as long as it doesn't lose the team for you.

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00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: You know, what if if if if Sean McVay and

1141
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: or coach Double Rainbow need an example below of how

1142
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: to conduct themselves. Just look at the rookie Marco Wilson.

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00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: This dude, you talk about acting like you've been there before,

1144
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: even though you haven't. As this guy had a welcome

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00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: to the NFL moment. You know, when his presser ended

1146
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: today earlier today with the media, I was kicking myself

1147
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: once again. I bashed myself on the head. I'm like CALVICI,

1148
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: why didn't you ask him if you had a welcome

1149
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: to the NFL moment? Because nothing has made Marco Wilson

1150
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: blink yet nothing. I feel like Jim's gonna be all

1151
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: at you one of these days. Yeah, stop punching on Mike.

1152
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: So I'm curious when you're running Cooper Cup out there

1153
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: and Robert Woods and you have Tyler Higbee and out

1154
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: to Seawan Jackson and this whole Sean McVay orchestrated symphony

1155
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: of an offense. Remember this goes back to the London

1156
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: game when the fans didn't know when to cheer, and

1157
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: so there was a lot of silence at the wrong times,

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00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: and you could hear Sean mcvay's voice blaring out the

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00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: ear holes of Jared Goss's helmet, and you could I

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00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: could even hear it on the sideline. I couldn't make

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00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: out what he was saying, but guys like Carlos Dansby,

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00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: we're in the game and they could literally hear word

1163
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: for word what the head coach was telling Jared Goff,

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00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: the young quarterback, about how to read the Cardinals defense

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00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: at the time. So all this being the case, this

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00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: is quite a measuring stick for both sides of the

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00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: football for the Arizona Cardinals. Is it nine? It is?

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00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: Ultimately it is. I mean, it's only the first of

1169
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: six division games. They've got to play the Rams again

1170
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: later in the season. There's a lot that can happen.

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00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: But again, as we said earlier, it's the beginning of

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00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: a real difficult stretch against some good teams and you've

1173
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: got to make some hay somewhere, and if it's not

1174
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: in LA, then it better be at home against the

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00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, and you're gonna want to show well.

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00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they match up well with the

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00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: Browns and that's going to be an exciting game and

1178
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: game number seventeen, even though it's not technically game number seventeen,

1179
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: but it was the extra game added in. So this

1180
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: next stretch is going to be fascinating. And again, you

1181
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: and I Paul got to go to LA last year,

1182
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: so we've been to that stadium, but it was completely empty,

1183
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be so weird being in there completely full.

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01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,959
Speaker 1: I think he is, yeah, the one who asked about

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01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: Daryl Washington and it will be in LA. Yeah, He's

1186
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: he's doing the double depth the u c L A

1187
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: issue game, and then he's gonna go to the Cardinal game.

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01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: I think this is a must win for the Cardinals.

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01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: I know it's a a whole reaction. It's a must

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01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: win in this regard. Just be patient, Darren, be patiently. Please, Look,

1191
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: there wasn't a Cardinals or what eight and zero? No,

1192
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: they haven't won, right, they haven't been in Sean McVie

1193
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: eight games, eight games, they haven't won. Kyler Murray has

1194
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: struggled against that Ram's front, DeAndre Hopkins hasn't had the

1195
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: best games against Jalen Ramsey. Byron Murphy. This is a

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01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: statement game for him too. I mean he's gonna be

1197
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm assuming he's gonna be on Cooper Cup. They're both

1198
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, slat. You know Cooper Cups are slat wide receiver.

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01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy excels in that regard. So I think it's

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01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: a must win for a lot of those players that

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01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: I just mentioned, because it's a statement game for Kylie Mary,

1202
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: DeAnda Hopkins, by Ra Murphy, Cliff Keynesbady to an extent.

1203
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: That's why I think it's a must win. It's gonna

1204
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: show us a lot about the Cardinals if they're you know,

1205
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: playoff contenders, maybe even I don't want to jink set

1206
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders. There's a lot to be said about

1207
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: this specific game. So it's a must win. Thanks for

1208
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: being I'm trying to Philippe. Here's here's the problem with

1209
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: must win, especially in this case. Must win tells me

1210
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: you must win the game or else. And if they

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01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: lose and they're three and one and then they go

1212
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: off and beat the forty nine Ers and the Browns,

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01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: it's just it's I understand what you're saying. Let me

1214
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: say this. I think it says a hell of a

1215
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: lot about this team if they win it, but I

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01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: absolutely don't think they must win it. It's a pride

1217
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: to my pride, mustwin the Yeah, probably doesn't win you anything.

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01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: The must win at the Rams was Week seventeen last

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01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: year exactly. That was a must This is a this

1220
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: is a second chance, a second chance at that. But

1221
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: you're but this stretch, whether it's the Rams and Niners

1222
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: and or the Browns, these are some of the best

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01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. And we'll get the best out

1224
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, that is the question, is

1225
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: it not that? Into what degree I tanked like the

1226
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: stock market today. That's the other questions out there. Don't

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01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: take in time, you mention it, don't do your sawyer,

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01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: do not look at your four O one k Okay.

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Speaker 1: That's my final words of advice if I've said anything.

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Speaker 1: He those final words as we say, thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us on Cardinals on the Ground, brought to you

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