WEBVTT - Will Grier

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this

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<v Speaker 1>is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's getting down to do it. Good do it. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked the questions you always want to know, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard

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<v Speaker 1>about it, then we're about to let you know. It's all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that time and insert birdman hand rubbed emoji. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time for a segment. Ain't got the giggles, man, dumbass,

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's down for a big dummy, you big dummy,

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<v Speaker 1>super duper. So, of course we we like to either

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<v Speaker 1>find an article or where we have something that's happened

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<v Speaker 1>in current events whatever, but this is one. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm a North Carolina guy, but something always

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<v Speaker 1>happens in South Carolina. South Carolina. You can bet your

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<v Speaker 1>bottom dollars, sorry, Scharlamin, you can bet your bottom dollar

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<v Speaker 1>that something happens in South Carolina. So a former state

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<v Speaker 1>trooper in South Carolina is accused of inviting a woman

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<v Speaker 1>over instead of booking her at the County Jail after

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<v Speaker 1>he arrested her on suspicion of a d u y. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to use his name and how did

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<v Speaker 1>they find out that that transpires? So we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to use his name. But he was arrested and booked

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<v Speaker 1>at the Newberry County Detention Center. The jail Newberry the

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<v Speaker 1>same jail where the alleged misconduct occurred. Surveillance footage from

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<v Speaker 1>the detention center and this officer's car camera reportedly captured

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<v Speaker 1>these events from the previous something you it's live, be

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<v Speaker 1>careful to say now. According to the arrest warrant, this

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<v Speaker 1>officer arrested a woman on a d watch charge and

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<v Speaker 1>took her to the detention center about an hour northwest

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<v Speaker 1>of Columbia, South Carolina. He took a long way, but

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<v Speaker 1>instead of booking her, h he he shot her. Shot,

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<v Speaker 1>He shot and shot, and he said, would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to my house? Would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to my careb what however he said, it

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<v Speaker 1>is how he approached her. She reportedly declined the offer.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't they know my brothers, I'm not interested. I'll pass.

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<v Speaker 1>When you are drunk and you're telling someone no, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a clear indication they're not so, so she sidestep

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Sanders and kept her ballace. So she declined the offer,

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<v Speaker 1>and the police officer drove the woman to his cousin's

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<v Speaker 1>house where he must be where where he hugged her

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<v Speaker 1>and come pplemented her appearance. Quote, she sloppy, drunk and

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<v Speaker 1>you're a police officer. And she said no, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you turned into wear my hug ache and you wear

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<v Speaker 1>my hug first of all, had cuffed, handcuffed, and I'm drunk. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm off for for these incredible hulks, yager monsters, seven

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<v Speaker 1>yager monsters and with like n T like. She did

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<v Speaker 1>not have sex on the beach, and she she is

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<v Speaker 1>intoxicated and it's telling you know so after so, after declining,

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<v Speaker 1>drove the woman to his cousin's house, hugged the complimentaror.

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<v Speaker 1>He later text her back and offered to say, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'll get your d you watch you RDS

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<v Speaker 1>dropped if you come back to my career. So she

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<v Speaker 1>told him no, drunk, Yes, I wonder what Her response, Hell, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know why because you are you big dummy, big dummy,

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, bro, He didn't text her. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>he's texting her, so that means he went through the

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<v Speaker 1>paperwork that's called stalking. I mean, it don't look like

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<v Speaker 1>she just gave him the digits, so I'm gonna especially

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<v Speaker 1>if she already had declined, So it's I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>likely to say that she wasn't interested. So how did

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<v Speaker 1>you get her number? Anyway? Woa? Yeah? So now the

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<v Speaker 1>South Ronina Highway Patrol asking the state investigators to investigate

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<v Speaker 1>this incident. And yeah, I think pretty much this dude's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lose his his his ji. He is gonna lose

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<v Speaker 1>his job. And you know what, And I'm sorry that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm extremely sorry that happened. But there is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit you got to accept. Okay, maybe you didn't take

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<v Speaker 1>the first though, Yeah, maybe you didn't take the second though,

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<v Speaker 1>but the third and fourth. Sometimes you gotta throw your

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<v Speaker 1>hand in, man, I don't throw your hand in. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't play every hand. Let's throw it in. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>text someone you arrested, well to hang. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>have multiple questions. The biggest question I have is why

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<v Speaker 1>do I want to date someone that was just showed

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<v Speaker 1>me pretty bad decisions? Oh? Yeah, I want her to

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<v Speaker 1>have the children. I want her to be the mother

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<v Speaker 1>of my children. I'm not bad and that if I know,

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of people have done that, plenty of people, but

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<v Speaker 1>I But if I'm in this situation right there, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, that's like dating. You're the prosecutor and you

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<v Speaker 1>date the defendant for murder, you know who I want?

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<v Speaker 1>I want her right there? Who's the one who sloppy

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<v Speaker 1>try to dry and hit the car behind her? She

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to leave out that was trying to fare

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<v Speaker 1>level part behind. That's who I want. Oh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>turns was like vomited right now. I don't want her

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<v Speaker 1>so anyway, her breast of mine. Secret seven introducing to you,

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<v Speaker 1>sergeant big dummy, you big dummy, unemployed, big dummy man.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we got somebody better to him. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on the Cut to It podcast, we've got Will Greer,

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback for the Carolina Panthers. He's a native of

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<v Speaker 1>Stroll at North Carolina and he was all Big twelve

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<v Speaker 1>playing for West Virginia University after he left Florida Universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Greer on the Cut to It podcast, is your

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<v Speaker 1>real name? William? Will I am stop it? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your middle name, Chadwick. It's a family name. I

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<v Speaker 1>was the first born, so I got the I got

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<v Speaker 1>the family name, William Chadwick Greer. Alright, our first segments

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<v Speaker 1>called get iced up, their icebreakers. They're random questions. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea. What's coming? Smithy is pre selected bees, Smitty,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and give Will the first one. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>if they made a movie about your life, who would

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<v Speaker 1>you want to play Will in the movie. Matthew mcconnaugh, No, hesitation.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like pretty loaded. Yeah, you thought about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about that ship. Okay, So how was such

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<v Speaker 1>a great actor play such a non speaking role in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie? A non speaking role? What do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't talk? No, he's just you from Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait a minute, wait a minute, my purpose Charlotte

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<v Speaker 1>on it, Tom, I'm sorry Lexington also known as Let's Vegan.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard that he from Charlotte? He's from Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 1>Has he not supposed to come on? Right? You know

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<v Speaker 1>I have fin final editing, so keep no. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a promise. I know where you were going. All right, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I just joke out joke kind of So we need

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<v Speaker 1>you to sing any verse of Hale West Virginia, Hale West,

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<v Speaker 1>the fight song. Yeah, it's specst Virginia, It's spect Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>the pride of every mountain. Come on you young lads,

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<v Speaker 1>come on you old grads, Espect Virginia. Now we eat you.

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<v Speaker 1>Ra ra ra. He got part of it. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking into the first verse. It's in the first verse.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know. Down y'all at the bottom. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I want a lot of games in West Virginia. We

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<v Speaker 1>sang that song every time. Big flex West Virginia is

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<v Speaker 1>not a big flex we want Hey, we want a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of games West Virginia. Can you pull up our

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<v Speaker 1>fellow West Virginia alumni? Who rated himself? Who raided himself?

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<v Speaker 1>Austin posted about he rated himself. He read the Let's Tavon.

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<v Speaker 1>Austin rated himself as the top He rated the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten best most exciting, most exciting college football players. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you like to hear? Of all time? Would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to hear some of the people? He had keep keep padding.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta find it. He had some um where would

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<v Speaker 1>do you think braxter Miller is yes of college players?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that like he's high on the list or that's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough question because he's in the football fraternity and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know. Look, I like the way

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<v Speaker 1>Braxon Miller plays football. I don't think he's in the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten most exciting. I'll give you the list. I

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<v Speaker 1>got the list now, but yeah, you're absolutely I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go. It's gonna count down ten to one. Alright, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>number ten, this is Sam on Austin's list. Number ten,

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<v Speaker 1>Jabrill Peppers. All right, yeah, number nine, I mean this

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<v Speaker 1>is a pretty like is this like in the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of decades or all time? This is all time,

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<v Speaker 1>all time, all time, all time, number ten, Oh bocal

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<v Speaker 1>number nine, Michael Vick. I like that number nine. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it's no he's up there though, he's hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a step ahead of Jabrille. Yeah, for context step

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<v Speaker 1>he just ran a four to seven as a two

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<v Speaker 1>year old man, and he's barely a step above a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who cannot four to seven in his twenties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Vick is my favorite football player of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Tavon Uston. I already don't like this list. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>oh well, you just getting ready. Number eight Peter Wark

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<v Speaker 1>the list, Peter Wark is still two steps number and

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<v Speaker 1>the step above Michael Michael Vick. Yeah, I don't agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Number seven, Braxton Miller two steps, two steps

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<v Speaker 1>and in front of Michael Vick, Mike, yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with that. Number six. Lamar Jackson. I

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<v Speaker 1>like Lamark. He's in there, man, he hadded, he he was,

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<v Speaker 1>he was electric in college. He had he deserves to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the top ten. I agree with that. Number five,

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<v Speaker 1>the same list with the real preppers. But continue number five.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Manziel. He was exciting for it was exciting. He

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<v Speaker 1>was exciting. Now he's not more Again, I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the tim t Bows. Then Johnny football is my guy, though, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he could be your guy in the context, in the

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<v Speaker 1>context of exciting you all times. It's exciting, it's greatness.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Manzell is not great. We ain't saying the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing I will say about this, and we're saying the

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<v Speaker 1>best players all time. I didn't say best in any

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<v Speaker 1>list that there's one through ten. Johnny Manzell was not

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<v Speaker 1>on my ten. Alright. When you talk about all time

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<v Speaker 1>of anything, especially when we're talking about all time, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're rating them in order. Yes, that is a different thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Number four your teammate Christian McCaffrey. Exciting, Yes, yep. Number

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<v Speaker 1>three sa Kwan Barkley all time, keep going. Number two

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<v Speaker 1>on the list of most exciting college football players of

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<v Speaker 1>all time. Number two is Tavon Austin. Mr Gadget himself

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<v Speaker 1>there was number one. Number one is Reggie Bush. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we can all agree. You can. You can argue

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<v Speaker 1>that it was Tavono. So there's Reggie Bush Tavon. So

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<v Speaker 1>here it is Reggie Buss Lambo bent Lea, Tavon Austin. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this. He made the list. He made the list.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the he made. No, he made his own list.

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<v Speaker 1>That is his list. So we after this banter, we

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<v Speaker 1>discovered it was his list because it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>trading on social media, like it was on EESP and

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<v Speaker 1>all the stuff, and I'm looking at the court and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait a minute. Source Tavon was on his

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<v Speaker 1>social media like bro gonna do I love it? I

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<v Speaker 1>love I love Tavon Austin. Number one. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was one of the more electrifying players

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<v Speaker 1>ever in college. I mean he did some like whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he did in the pros, whatever he's he's a hero

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<v Speaker 1>in West Virginia. He's a hero and he made the list.

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<v Speaker 1>If I made a list, I put myself up high

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<v Speaker 1>to you know what I mean, Like you gotta put

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<v Speaker 1>herself up high. Yeah, I mean herself. He was at

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<v Speaker 1>the mountaintop. And that's why I said, I can tell no. No.

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<v Speaker 1>All I'm saying is I respect the confidence. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Not one I owed her. Nope. If he was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>right here, I tell him absolutely not. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>slander my West Virginia. First of all, I don't agree.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I'm not slandering. I'm just stating when

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<v Speaker 1>when I hear all time Tavon Austin is not on

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<v Speaker 1>the list, Johnny Manzel And and here's why I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even on the list. When you're talking about it, I

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<v Speaker 1>like Peter Wark, Michael Fick, Reggie Bush, Lamar Jackson. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say, when you talk about most exciting, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>what Tavan did against Oklahoma, like put up six fred

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<v Speaker 1>something all purpose yards did be I didn't watch, I

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<v Speaker 1>really did. The guy's exciting from like every time he

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<v Speaker 1>was back returning to kids, something could happen, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? It had that that Devin Hester feeld

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<v Speaker 1>of like he could break he did, and Devin Hester

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<v Speaker 1>and he actually is should best. Now you're barking up

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<v Speaker 1>my Tree't even talk about that. Devin Hester was outstanding

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<v Speaker 1>in college and it transferred to he was also outstanding

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. Tavan was outstanding in college watching the pros.

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<v Speaker 1>Still waiting on it and is fast? I only going

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<v Speaker 1>off college football, bro, it's still fast. Are we moving on? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>We can move on? Okay, cool, appreciate it alright. Number three,

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<v Speaker 1>give us one thing that you are afraid of or

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<v Speaker 1>scared of. I hate snakes. If I'm walking around outside,

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<v Speaker 1>even in like a backyard, they're probably never had a

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<v Speaker 1>snake in it. I look around for snakes. I'm scared.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm terrified of snakes, not spiders, though some people, like everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's because you want the spiders real quick and looked

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<v Speaker 1>around like you had like we said that, not spiders,

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<v Speaker 1>h No. But the reason I said that though, because

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<v Speaker 1>most people say this, spiders are like scarier or they're

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<v Speaker 1>more scared of spiders than they are snakes. And I

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<v Speaker 1>totally disagree, all right. You never people always say they're

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<v Speaker 1>scared of spiders. Scared spiders. I'm not scared spiders. That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of scared of heights. I don't do heights. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you get shaky? No, I just don't go. Don't you

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<v Speaker 1>just don't. I don't know, I don't know to get shaky. Yeah. Yeah, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like how like how high does it start to?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not I don't go, but like what you

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<v Speaker 1>get on the ladder, Like if you get on the ladder,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to go. But I'm not getting on

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<v Speaker 1>the ladder to go up on a tower. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like a huge, like my house is a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can get on the roof and you're cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cool. So it's like, but you won't go onto

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<v Speaker 1>like uh like the tour of the Empire State Building,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know you're not interested in going out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked, I've been there, I've taken the elevator. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>look out on the No need to exactly why I feel?

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<v Speaker 1>How is he going to edge? And nothing? Now they

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<v Speaker 1>now is different where they have cages, they have the stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't look over there because some people have

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<v Speaker 1>attempted to do some things that are not very good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So last one, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting. Would you rather lose your front tooth or

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<v Speaker 1>shave your head? Oh? Shave my head all day, all day.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have thought you wanted to. You you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to. I get, I get why you think that?

0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Why why was that? Got long hair? Like I've been

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<v Speaker 1>my hair's been I'm going my hair for like two

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<v Speaker 1>years now. But rather shave my head? Why? What? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What would losing your tooth do? I don't know did

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<v Speaker 1>it would do? Like? What can we replace it? Like? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the like? It's your ugliness however you want to

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<v Speaker 1>fix it? I mean, all right, I'll say this. I

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't mind having a bus cut at all. I would

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<v Speaker 1>mind if I had to walk around without a front

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<v Speaker 1>to mess up, messed up my whole the whole spiel,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah everything, if you lost how confident with the whole

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<v Speaker 1>beard and hair thing? Though? If I lost my TI,

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<v Speaker 1>it would just mess it all up. Yeah, the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, like the smile, everything, the confidencement. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be alignment or a hockey player, like

0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't see hockey players that like you know on

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<v Speaker 1>movies or stuff. Number five, we don't even have a file.

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<v Speaker 1>If you couldnt be a wire, not be a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>could you still play football? That I've thought about this.

0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.320
<v Speaker 1>It's a tough like. So. Actually, David Sills, one of

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<v Speaker 1>my receivers in West Virginia, was a quarterback. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who he is. He was a quarterback up until

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<v Speaker 1>when I he came back the first year playing receiver. Seriously,

0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.920
<v Speaker 1>first year playing he was a quarterback his whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>Came back played receiver and caught like touchdowns and then yeah, humble,

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the he's with the Giants now was on

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<v Speaker 1>the active ross and stuff like that. So and he

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<v Speaker 1>made you Now he's granted, he's probably a better athlete

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<v Speaker 1>than I am, but he had never played receiver ever

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<v Speaker 1>and was able to make that switch. We have to

0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.360
<v Speaker 1>take a break and the morning thing, we gotta pay

0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:46.040
<v Speaker 1>some bill. You got checks. I love cut to It,

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.520
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0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.919
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0:21:57.040 --> 0:22:02.119
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0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:06.080
<v Speaker 1>featuring Steve Smith singr what about online? And you can

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 1>follow Louis at cut to It podcast dot com where

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.800
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0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:17.120
<v Speaker 1>wherever you listen to podcasts. I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah,

0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.639
<v Speaker 1>I got all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for,

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:24.439
<v Speaker 1>a brother cut to a podcast dot com. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>always know you wanted to play quarterback? No, so, I yes,

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<v Speaker 1>in a way. I also played basketball and baseball growing up.

0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I loved both positions. Basketball is a shooting guard. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in baseball, I kind of I jumped around,

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<v Speaker 1>played shortstop, center field, first base I was a catcher.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a picture. Did you play those prior of football?

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<v Speaker 1>I played it all kind of together. Yeah. So I

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 1>started playing football and I was like seven, loved I

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<v Speaker 1>loved football. Um. As I got older, I got my

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<v Speaker 1>first offers in football. So East Carolina was my first

0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.959
<v Speaker 1>offer ever sophomore year and then uh, it kind of

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 1>took off after that, but that was that was like

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<v Speaker 1>my first That's when I started. Those are my first offers,

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<v Speaker 1>so I, you know, kind of committed to football after that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I had played other positions. I played safety, growing up

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. But when it came down to

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<v Speaker 1>like what I was gonna play in college, I mean,

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:25.959
<v Speaker 1>quarterback was the only shot I had. Um fast. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I was fast, I was a really good athlete, but

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<v Speaker 1>I never I was the quarterback of my team. I

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<v Speaker 1>never practiced playing receiver or anything else. So again, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have like and I probably could have made the

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<v Speaker 1>switch then and done something, but now it was too late. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it got too late in college for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>All your fast switches left. All right, let's get down

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<v Speaker 1>to it, all right, So where where are you from?

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<v Speaker 1>And the place you call your hometown? So I was

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<v Speaker 1>born in Charlotte, U n c C. I lived up north,

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty minutes north of here. Kind of moved around

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. My parents were divorced, uh so I lived

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<v Speaker 1>with my mom most of the time, and my dad

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got more custody as we got older, so

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<v Speaker 1>I bounced back and forth. But they moved a bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>So I kind of say Charlotte just to generalize that,

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't live in one place for more than

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<v Speaker 1>you know, three I think I lived in Davidson for

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<v Speaker 1>three years of my mom that's probably the longest I

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<v Speaker 1>ever lived in one place. I did not really shape

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<v Speaker 1>your your view on the world because Charlotte has grown

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<v Speaker 1>so much, all right, I know it's it's changed my

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<v Speaker 1>view of the world. Um, you know when I first

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 1>moved here in two thousand and one, compared to now,

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 1>it's Charlotte is a whole different place. Downtown uptown is

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<v Speaker 1>considered Actually it's it's it's ever changing. I have some family,

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that's that's from Charlotte. No, you got a lot of family.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about that because I always run into people.

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I run in a will Greer family folk. Yeah, the

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 1>career is a legendary. Yeah, oh that's my nephew. Yeah.

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 1>A lot of my family has been here a long time,

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>so they've seen it even more drastically. I mean, I

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:21.880
<v Speaker 1>got my dad's uncle sixty six years old, was born

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<v Speaker 1>in Charlotte and has been here for sixty six years.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're talking about like the growth, Like he was

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<v Speaker 1>here when try On was a dirt road. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no uptown. It was not it was not the place

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you see today. I mean that's the that's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that my dad, you know, was was born raised in Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>He he lived kind of over by the the Y

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<v Speaker 1>m c A. And Carmel. I mean now Carmel's like this,

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, nice super nice neighborhood and everything. But he,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he'll drive around and I mean even more

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<v Speaker 1>so than me. So I mean I was here twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. I'd come down to even the city or whatever,

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and um, drive around and I mean it's south end

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>to see what it is now just for me, but

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>my dad. For my dad, it's like the neighborhoods, like

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.679
<v Speaker 1>you see the houses, like I mean they're just knocking

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 1>down houses and building a million dollar houses everywhere around

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like surrounding the city. Um, and just it's it's like

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>it was neighborhoods that he grew up, like riding his

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<v Speaker 1>bike and you know what I mean, playing stickball, playing

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<v Speaker 1>football plan and to see just the I mean just

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the traffic alone, the roads, the stores, that everything that's

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>like grown around the city even is like so different

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>than than it was twenty years ago. Um. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just in that in that aspect you growing up and

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:50.439
<v Speaker 1>seeing this place grow and obviously growing up when were

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you born, so when it was just a thought of

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<v Speaker 1>a football team and then possibly going to the games

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<v Speaker 1>and then eventually now participate in that game. In those

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>games and being in that jersey. What what is it

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>like for you? Yeah, so it's it's it's crazy. So

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>um but put put more emotions on the crazy park

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.239
<v Speaker 1>because it's not it's not often that someone grows up

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 1>in the city they end up playing. Yeah, it's it's

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 1>not normal. Well, I I mean when I was coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of the draft that Carolina wasn't even on my radar,

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<v Speaker 1>like I I mean, I was one of the like

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>top guys. So I was, you know, thinking of the

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>quarterback needy teams, like who's like in the teams I'm

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>meeting with or whatever, And um as I started to

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 1>fall in the draft and Carolina just picked me up

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>because of value, Like they just picked me based on

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, they didn't need a quarterback. I mean Cam

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>was here, they had Kyle coming back, whatever. Um so

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of surprising. But when I you know,

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 1>they didn't really sink in until I put the practice

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>jersey on and went out to the practice field. I

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, because it wasn't on my mind to come

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<v Speaker 1>here at all. You know, I was going to play football.

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're going to a job to play football.

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 1>And then when I came here, it made it like

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>this whole like you know, hometown thing, Like I'm looking

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>for a place to live in my hometown, you know.

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 1>And you know all the little Nicks and Crane, Yeah,

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and everybody knows them as my success. You had families

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 1>all here, I mean, like my my my family has

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>gotten to watch my kids, you know, grow up, you

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like that's something that I don't

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>know if I would have had if I went somewhere else,

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 1>And you know that that's been really cool, but it

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>was It was never I never related the like NFL

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to playing for Carolina. It wasn't like a thing that

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I ever, like I guess wanted or tried to manifest.

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>So you obviously watched the game or two in your

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you were younger. And then that first

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>time you're dressed, you know, not necessarily playing, but just dressed.

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Are you out at UH training camp at at Walford

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're out at fan fest and you're out there

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>practicing And now this time, instead of watching and observing,

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>you are participating. How was that you have to kind

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>of I had to kind of almost blocked that child,

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Like why because I had to perform, Like I quickly

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>would like go there and be like, damn, this is cool,

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I, I you know this, You're right, Like I

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>would grow up. You know I've watched you catch that

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>post in two thousand three against the Rams. I was like, yeah,

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the skinny post is neck. He scored with it. And

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>then I like my Uh. I even went to a

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>couple of Panther games and like sat in the stadium

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>when I was younger growing up just because I played football.

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>My dad knew I liked to play football. It took

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>me two games whatever, So I would like even in

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the stadium, like I can look up and see like

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>where I sat, you know what I mean, and like

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I and I'll do that real quick. And then I

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't refocused. It was in section, so it's like right

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>above the right above the handicap, but it's it's all

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the way it's all the way up, so it's under

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the second slash, third level right so you got the

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>sweets and it's right there on the cusp right there

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>before you go to the nosebleed. The reason I'm asking is,

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>uh I got an opportunity to playing Candlestick right, being

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>a FOURT Niners fan never got the chance to sit

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>in Candlestick, but just to be there and go through it.

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember the first time my rookie year we played

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco at Candlestick and it was awesome. But I

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I I sat in the moment I was gonna say,

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>did you do with Will? Did not checked out? You

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't try to check out? No, I was like, man,

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing more than Hanks, right, I live. I lived

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that moment because for us, they they end up leaving,

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>They end up you know, them on a place two

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>three years later, and then they moved to the NFC West. No,

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>we moved to the NFC South because I was still

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>in the NFC the NFC West, whereas Rams, Carolina, Atlanta

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and San Francisco and then San Francisco left, Tampa filled

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>that void and they realigned. So I didn't. I didn't blow,

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't block it out. I actually sat in it

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and it was really really cool. Yeah. I've done it

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>a few times. Like like I said, like if I'm

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>when I go out to like play or practice, I

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>have to like I have to block everything out and

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>just lock in on the just because it's whatever is

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>going on in my head, like I need full I blocked.

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't listen, like I block everything out and just

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm on I'm on the field, like that's just the

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>way I've always played, is like I'm in between those lines.

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm you know, but I'm I'm. I'm saying you

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta live that because it will help you actually be

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>a little freer. Yeah, I think you need to actually

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>think about it and actually will tighten you up. So

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>then you can go out there and you can start out.

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>You can start you gotta Did you ever go to

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:26.479
<v Speaker 1>a practice? My mom took me down to Offord? All right,

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>So who's who's the quarterback? Um? At that time? All right,

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>he was out there throwing a pass or somebody you

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>may know. So if he's stowing, he's out there throwing

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>that pass. It was nice and then that that will

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I received one up and get it right. So why

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>can't you mimic that? Right? So you still have that

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>little boy inside of you that you go, I'm just

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>be I'm be gun gun slinger, jake, me throw it

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to my guy, and all of a sudden you're just

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>throwing it and now it's less of a job. Now

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>it becomes you just kind you kind of just you're

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 1>playing with house money. Yeah right, yeah, no, I agree.

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I think I think there's a balance and that, like

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that I could be better at living in

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the moment and being more loose and playing like having

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>that child Like it's still a game. Now. You still

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>go out there. You still you still go out there

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and just and sling it and receiver, we go out

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>there and try to make that one hand and catch

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>or that impossible. You gotta have a little bit of

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that for sure, for sure, because you gotta be able

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>to do it. Like that was one thing I always

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>did in practice. I would catch your ball a certain way.

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Just let me see if I could try this. Like

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll let a ball if I'm going on a deep

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>over and the quarterback throws and leaves me, I would

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>let the ball go over my head and I catch

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>it right there. To wearing the game where I had

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>to concentrate. I know that guy is gonna hit me,

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>but if I'm doing this, I'm gonna drop it. But

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>now if it goes over there, bang, I just right there.

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Now he comes hitting me, was right there, you know,

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>just kind of living that childhood. So speaking to childhood,

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>how would you how would you summarize the way that

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>your childhood affects you as an adult right now? I

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.399
<v Speaker 1>think the the main when I think back to like

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>my childhood, it was surrounded by sports, Like I grew

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>up playing football, basketball, baseball. UM. I just love to compete.

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what I did. So I most of my childhood

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>memories are me sitting at AU tournaments, basketball, baseball, whatever

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>it may be, UM and playing ball. And I think

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>that I learned so much of my life skills from

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.879
<v Speaker 1>being on a team playing sports. UM. That kind of

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>got I mean all I did. That kind of got

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 1>me away from doing anything else on the weekends because

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I I filled my schedule up with UM with tournaments

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and games and practices, and I just wanted to be

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>great at whatever I was doing. Like I was, you know,

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.959
<v Speaker 1>practicing my left hand with basketball or like hitting balls

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>in the cage or whatever whatever the sport was. Like,

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I was just all in and just focusing on that.

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think now that I'm kind of in the

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.720
<v Speaker 1>professional field or like now it's more of a business,

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I've started to kind of you know, peel back the

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>layers of like what's outside of sports, right, you know,

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like I lacked a lot of that

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>growing up. Like I was so I guess focused on

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 1>sports that I I wasn't opening my eyes to the

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>rest of life in the world. Um So I think

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the past as an adult, you know, especially having kids,

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've kind of started to you know, see

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>life for what it is and see kind of where

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I fit in or what I truly care about other

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>than just football. Do you feel like something. I don't

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like I think miss something is fair, but I

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's more so just like I, I wasn't

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 1>as in tune with just I was just like I

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>it like I kind of black. I just you know,

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>block everything and play sports because I didn't want to

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe I didn't want to deal with that or maybe

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 1>like something's going on and like I didn't like it,

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>so you know, I'm just gonna block it out. And

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I did that so much in my childhood

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 1>that I may be missed out on experiences or opportunities

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 1>to you know, get creative or see what else that

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>I may have liked other than other than sports because

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I was just so hyper focused on it. Um but

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, as an adult now, I have

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity and especially especially with my kids, to kind

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>of explore childhood again and do some things that you know,

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>not that I didn't have an opportunity to do, but

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really take advantage of when I was a kid.

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely an overthinker. And yeah, no, I'm definitely an overthinker.

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>But that is something that like it I wish and

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>that I think having kids is really what brought it

0:36:56.120 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>to my Like I want my kids to just like create, explore,

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:03.919
<v Speaker 1>do things like that's I wish I would have done

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 1>more of that, I guess, and let my emotions like

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>don't block out sadness, don't block out anger, like just

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.319
<v Speaker 1>feel it, address it. Like those are the kind of

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.959
<v Speaker 1>things that my whole childhood I like just blocked out.

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think I think it's healthy to to experience

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:22.879
<v Speaker 1>those things. So playing multiple sports growing up and your

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>dad being your football coach, how is that interesting? We

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>got a yeah, but no helicopter dad. No, not no,

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 1>not really, I mean, especially since you know my parents

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>were divorced, I lived with with both of him. He

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 1>wasn't helicopter dad or overbearing or anything like that. Um,

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 1>but he was my football coach, and we butt heads

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot because I think, you know, we're similar in

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways. Really, We're both very passionate, right

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>especially about football. So as you know, the coach, quarterback,

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 1>he's calling plays on the quarterback. There's generally things that

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>we would just disagree. Yeah, disagree. Butt heads all the time,

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>especially when you say disagree. How does a disagreement between

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>a father and son, head coach and quarterback. Least explain

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that to him because I've got to make the dentist

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:20.760
<v Speaker 1>table interesting, damn the diner table, to walk home everything?

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>How should I say it his ryan home, You'll walk

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>home exactly? No, I mean, I mean it was. It

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>was definitely, you know, an interesting dynamic. I think he

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>handled it really well. I think I handled it poorly

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot more than he did, just because the the

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>way that I would I I was dismissive sometimes to

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>him as a coach, but him also as a father.

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Made it tough on our relationship, our father's son relationship.

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 1>And I think the way and our relationship is great now,

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>by the way, Like I think that that experience kind

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 1>of made our relationship even strong grew when I was

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>an adult and playing somewhere else, and really he was

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 1>being really tough on me and hard on me to

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>prepare me for college, preparing me to his in his mind,

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was gonna beat me to the ground,

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, like really be as tough as possible on

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.359
<v Speaker 1>me in every aspect to make me better. That's kind

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 1>of how he was raised and how he wanted to

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>raise me. And I kind of saw it as not that,

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and I just did say it is he was picking

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>on you, not necessarily that. I just think it was.

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I saw it as you know, I'm like, I'm doing

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 1>everything right, I'm doing what you told. Like even when

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>he was wrong, he wouldn't admit he was wrong, and

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>because he wanted to be he wanted me to just

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>say yes sir and move on. And as him being

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>my father, I wanted to just talk to him and

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 1>be like like, no, you're like you're wrong, let me

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you my perspective of this whatever. But

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>he was trying to be the coach that's like, you're not.

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to come to me with excuses.

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to come to me with any

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 1>of that, Like just yes, sir, move on to it

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 1>right the next time. And I think that was the

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 1>toughest part of the the relationship aspect, because you know,

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I think when when you go home and it's your dad,

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>it's very different than when he's out there on the field.

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 1>And I think when I was done playing for him,

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I realized what he was trying to do. But in

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the moment, even if he's telling me that can't understand

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 1>let me play this out. You want to explain to

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the head coach and who happens to be your father,

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't want to listen to it. So then

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>you go down to college and now the coach that

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>is giving your instruction who is not your dad, and

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>you can't be dismissed, and you can't be dismissive, and

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you still can't debate with him. I did that work

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.839
<v Speaker 1>out for you? I was. I felt as prepared as

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I could be when I went to Florida. I was

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>what Will must Champ was. The was the head coach,

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 1>and he's known to be firing and passionate, yell at

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 1>people or whatever, and none of that faced me at all.

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was for whatever. I think usually at

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that point yeah, I think that really whatever reason, No

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a reason. No you don't want to give him credit? No, No,

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 1>If I was saying for whatever it's worth, I think

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:25.239
<v Speaker 1>he I think he like I think what was he

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 1>over the top? Sometimes if you ask my uncle's yes,

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>my dad, no, I think he did, you know, and

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>he'll tell you. I think sometimes he crossed the line.

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Not nothing crazy right, and it wasn't it. But I

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.320
<v Speaker 1>do think that it prepared me for college and for life.

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>And was coming out of college. You signed with Florida

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Florida and what years were that? Fifteen? And then I

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>had that work out, So I read short of my

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:57.919
<v Speaker 1>first year, this was the quarterback Jeff DRIs school and

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>uh Jacoby transferred year. I came in pri set so

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:04.240
<v Speaker 1>it was Jeff dry school and then me and Trion

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Harris came in the same year. Um we, So I

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 1>read shirted must Champ got fired after the South Carolina game.

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>We didn't have a good year. Um so he got fired.

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 1>They brought in um Jim mcwain. Doug nut Smyer was

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 1>the o c um coming in. Uh We, Me and

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Trion were competing for the starting job. Competed all the

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>way through camp up really until the first game. We

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>split time in the first game of the year, um,

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and then I got the nod for the next five

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 1>games after that. I guess I kind of won the

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:45.760
<v Speaker 1>competition in in that game. UM, and we were rolling

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:49.399
<v Speaker 1>six and oh, like we beat Old Miss the week

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 1>after they beat Alabama, they were like number three in

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the country. We were ranked super high. Our defense was

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:56.799
<v Speaker 1>super good. Like we we had a we had a

0:42:56.840 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>shot to go, and then I got suspended. I think

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>it's about that time. Just take a little breather. Good do,

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>good do. Let's getting down to dood. Hey Gerard, why

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 1>did you get that T shirt? You mean this thing?

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, I got it from cut to a podcast

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>dot com where we have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 1>our guys at seven or four shot. But yeah, you

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 1>can go on, buy you a T shirt, subscribe to

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>us wherever you listen to podcasts. So I got suspended

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 1>for a year for p DS performance and enhancing drugs,

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:38.959
<v Speaker 1>and I to this day, yes, I don't know where

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it came from. Okay, I didn't know, so that's why

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Yeah, So the way it wins is

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 1>I I came coach Matt called into his office one day,

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you failed a drug test and I was blindsided.

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like for what, Like, You're like, man, I

0:43:56.840 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>took that Golden Seal. What are you talking? So I

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>came in and did told me and didn't see. Yeah,

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.839
<v Speaker 1>you can't trust you can't trust any especially back then,

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you can't trust at the seal with clean everything. Yeah,

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what that was. I I was, I was,

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I was young, I was I didn't even know that.

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that that was even like when I

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>thought pd S, I'm thinking like steroids. Yeah, so I

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't know, Like yeah, I mean, it's it's crazy. And

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I at the time, like I said, I was just

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>young and I didn't I mean, I wasn't. I had

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 1>no idea. So I go do that press conference and

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, and it was a year suspension. So

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.359
<v Speaker 1>right after it happened, Coach Mack was like, just get

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>out of the building and figure out because we were

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>going to appeal it because you know, we you know,

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna try to wipe it. I didn't think I

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>did anything wrong or whatever. See what's going on. Um.

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 1>During the appeal process, he didn't want me in the building.

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 1>He thought I was a distraction. So I wasn't. I

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 1>was living in Gainsville, but I wasn't allowed to come

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>in to the football building during this appeal process. He didn't,

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like I said, want me to be a distraction. So

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.879
<v Speaker 1>did you feel like, how how long did it take

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you to figure out something was going on? Shortly thereafter?

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>It was short a couple of weeks. I mean I

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>was figured. I was so focused on the appeal or whatever,

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 1>and then I kind of took a step back and

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to my dad talking with some people,

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and it was it was weird they didn't want me around,

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>especially as a leader of the team. I mean for

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody they supported. Yeah, you know, and I I kind

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of got the hint. I went in and met with

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>him two more times and was like, look, man, I

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna serve this suspension, like you know, whatever it is,

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:59.439
<v Speaker 1>like I may I may get disappealed, like I don't

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:00.839
<v Speaker 1>know what it's going to be, but then I want

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>to be right back, like I'll do whatever I gotta

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 1>do it. During the spot and he was like, I

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 1>think a fresh start would be good for you. WHOA yeah,

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>so he and so he tells you a fresh start,

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? And so what's going on with little Chadwicks?

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Hen So I think, honestly, like I had never got

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>a good memory. I never wanted to leave Florida. I

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>loved the school. I you know, wanted to be there

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 1>my whole career. Um that was kind of like the

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 1>harsh reality was that was my head coach. And like

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:38.799
<v Speaker 1>I think, honestly, when I think about it, I think

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 1>he was thinking of my best interests. I don't think

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, and I may be thinking, you know,

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 1>glass half full here, but I truly think he was

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to help me and saying that, like he could

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 1>have just told me to stay right, compete for the

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:56.240
<v Speaker 1>job and then never you know, really let me have it.

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Like when it came down to it, do you believe

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>because of what happened and it was kind of one

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.919
<v Speaker 1>of those things where it was a stain, I think, yes,

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that. And I think also that he didn't

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 1>want I think it was for sure there were some

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>politics surrounding it in my mind, like he didn't want

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>even if I served the suspension and come back. And

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's it would have been tough to

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.439
<v Speaker 1>put me back in that and that starting role after

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>giving what had happened, even though it was an accident,

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.760
<v Speaker 1>even though you know, I didn't you know, kill somebody

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 1>or hurt anything like, but it was just it was

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 1>a stain for sure. Yeah. So he gave me a

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 1>list of schools that I couldn't transferred to that I

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 1>could transfer to. He gave you a list, yeah, like

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 1>these you can't go. So I couldn't go anywhere in

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the SEC he said that. Yeah, he printed out a list. Wow,

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:48.879
<v Speaker 1>so he told you here's way. But this was back

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:52.319
<v Speaker 1>when you could do that. Oh oh, because they had

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to do he can't do that anymore. This was back

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.439
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, so he gave me a piece of pavor

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:01.400
<v Speaker 1>like this, and it had like I couldn't go anywhere

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 1>in the SEC or like anybody that was on the

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.760
<v Speaker 1>schedule next year or something like that, which was normal

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 1>at the time. Like you just you know, I think

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing he had that paper on on hand though,

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if it was he just like

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and why we hear it, but but how do you

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 1>how do you like maybe it's maybe this is where

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 1>we're starting to go. But that situation being labeled as

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 1>a as a as a stain quote unquote or you

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>being called a distraction, and of course you having to

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 1>go through a suspension. How do you deal with that mentally? Yeah,

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it was when that's probably not your Yeah, it was

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:40.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot because it didn't represent who I am, like

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:43.839
<v Speaker 1>that I stay out of trouble in every way. I mean,

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I keep my nose very clean. And that was a

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>stain to the public eye. But it was a huge

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 1>stain on myself mentally, Like I like messed up for

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the first time. I lafe and I'm talking about you

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:57.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know what you messed up on because people

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know. People don't even realize pete ease. Isn't that

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean you could. It's a wide range, bro it's medicine, right,

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:11.240
<v Speaker 1>it's certain, it's it's it's certain even to the point

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:18.439
<v Speaker 1>of certain aspirants, Like there's certain aspirants that you can't take.

0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>You gotta be and you know, I think it's talked

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.800
<v Speaker 1>about born now than it was when I was that age.

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 1>But you have to as an athlete, you have you're responsible,

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:33.399
<v Speaker 1>like so well, I wonder how would the how how

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>was the coverage on you impacting you mentally? I think

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>what impacted me the most was that I had messed

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 1>up like that it was all happening. It was my

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>fault that there was nobody else to blame, you know,

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:49.480
<v Speaker 1>it was it was ignorance, but it was still Now

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 1>when you go back, what do you think it was

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 1>that you too? Well? So it was like I was

0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:58.919
<v Speaker 1>taking other guys pre work out in the locker room.

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I was taking like you typical college kids, even in

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the prose, and hey, I'm done, I'm I'm I'm going.

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what it was. It was just like you know,

0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 1>got onyx so well. I mean, you've had to deal

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 1>with a lot in in a short career. How do

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you deal with um, the adversity in in in in

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 1>college and now even going into your program? How do

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you deal with this adversity overall? Yeah, I think the

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:28.799
<v Speaker 1>adversity is has made me better in all aspects. I mean,

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't seek out adversity like I'm I'm not. I

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 1>don't wake up and say like, hey, what what can

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 1>I do to make my life funny? How that works out?

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.880
<v Speaker 1>You never go seeking food. But when it's some stupid

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 1>as people out there go find me some adversity today,

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:46.920
<v Speaker 1>but some dummies. But I will say that the leaves

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and bounds of growth in my career have always come

0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:54.360
<v Speaker 1>when adversity happens. Not at the top, you know what

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean. I think you're still growing, But I think

0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:00.760
<v Speaker 1>when that adversity happens, like I've handled it in different ways,

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:03.359
<v Speaker 1>but as you figure it out and as you get

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:06.760
<v Speaker 1>through it, that's when I've made the biggest leaps and

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>in my development on and off the field. Um So

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that's I mean in my mind. Like like I said,

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't seek adversity, but I appreciate it all right.

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 1>When our last segment it's called deep three, it's many

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:22.279
<v Speaker 1>deep three Okay, First one, really, you know what are

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you thankful for the way you were raised? You know,

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:30.360
<v Speaker 1>obviously you you spoke about the divorce between your your parents,

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 1>but being a being a father? Now, Um, what is

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>something that your parents, even though they were divorced, they

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:40.479
<v Speaker 1>gave you something that that they gave you a great

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 1>outlook on being being a parent. Yeah, I think they

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:48.839
<v Speaker 1>Number one, they both loved me unconditionally through anything, Like

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:52.440
<v Speaker 1>both of them separately we're over the top about that,

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 1>like like they always like you know, cared for me,

0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, no, absolutely go through to go through a

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:04.800
<v Speaker 1>divorce and be able to separate them and us, Yeah,

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:09.320
<v Speaker 1>but still love on the kids. They both were champions

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 1>at that and that's why we have such good relationships

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:14.799
<v Speaker 1>me and my brothers with my mom and my dad

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:19.319
<v Speaker 1>still is because of that, I believe, um. But I

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>think from a parenting perspective having my own kids, they

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:26.120
<v Speaker 1>one they both got remarried and are in healthy marriages now,

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 1>which is super cool to see. Actually, like you know them,

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:33.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, they they were married, had us, they got divorced,

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 1>but then they found somebody else, and we're able to

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 1>be in a healthy marriage. So it wasn't they weren't

0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 1>right for each other, but neither of them clearly aren't.

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, they haven't had problems with relationships since then,

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 1>So I think it was you know, cool to watch

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.759
<v Speaker 1>both of them being another relationship and and both of

0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 1>my stepparents were awesome as well. I mean we really

0:52:57.760 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I appreciated the way the entire situation was handled.

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 1>All that was a bad situation, Like they were always

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 1>really respectful of separating and all that was going on

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and um and us. And I think what it taught me.

0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it taught me some of what not to

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:17.040
<v Speaker 1>do in a relationship, especially with young kids, um, just

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 1>from the you know, with when my parents were together

0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:22.279
<v Speaker 1>when I was younger. UM. But I also think it

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:26.399
<v Speaker 1>taught me, like you know, in that you know, how

0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to you know, treat your wife in front of your

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:31.920
<v Speaker 1>kids right, how to treat for me, you know like that,

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 1>different things you kind of pick up on naturally. I

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:37.120
<v Speaker 1>think that they were you know, my mom and my

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:41.719
<v Speaker 1>dad both were always in front of us, respectful of

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 1>each other. Um. And I think that you know, that

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 1>was you know, really cool of them and help, you know,

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 1>my parenting skills. What's the most important thing that your

0:53:53.880 --> 0:54:01.920
<v Speaker 1>dad taught you off the field, I think just overall respect.

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I think he was he was big on respect everybody.

0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Janitor to to the CEO, like the old saying they say,

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:11.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean, um so much show that I don't even

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't even see it that way. Like I I

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 1>just see everybody it's like second nature to Yeah, it's

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:19.520
<v Speaker 1>just second nature. Like I just have a respect for

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 1>every being, animal, human, anything. I mean, I just I

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:29.800
<v Speaker 1>respect everybody from any situation they come from, and especially

0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>if you don't know it, I have respect for whatever

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the that that situation is. UM. I think you know,

0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:40.360
<v Speaker 1>that's the biggest thing that he always instilled, Like you know,

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:42.839
<v Speaker 1>it used to be yes sir, yes, ma'am. It's not

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:46.719
<v Speaker 1>that's not as cooler as popular today. UM, but that

0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of led into the respect for everybody thing. And

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, that was you know, his his biggest

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:55.319
<v Speaker 1>thing was even I mean on the field too, but

0:54:55.680 --> 0:54:58.760
<v Speaker 1>especially off the field. Just respect. Now, what's your career

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:01.319
<v Speaker 1>where it is, you know, just trying to you know,

0:55:01.680 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 1>obviously trying to make it and trying to figure things out. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever impact you have on the field, that's fantastic. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what what is what impact do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have off the field. I think any kind of positive

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<v Speaker 1>impact I can make on any because I haven't and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a specific foundation. And I'm actually meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody after this, UM that she runs a group

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<v Speaker 1>called See Her Lead and it's a group for uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, basically middle school high school girls. UM. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a leadership uh summit. They have, you know, weeks

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<v Speaker 1>they have lessons, they do, camps, they do UM it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a super cool organization that that she set up.

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<v Speaker 1>She actually taught ninth grade English to me and we

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<v Speaker 1>connected and and UM I started talking about this UM

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<v Speaker 1>her program and how she's growing and how I can

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<v Speaker 1>get involved and help and UM. You know, so I

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<v Speaker 1>love the idea of that. Having two daughters, UM, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hits close to home for me. UM. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think in general, like I there's different things that

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<v Speaker 1>I've experienced in my life that I want to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of, and and and but I really

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<v Speaker 1>am still trying to narrow down and because instead of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do everything a little bit, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a lasting impact on one thing. And it's been tough,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly to kind of, you know, put all my eggs

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:27.759
<v Speaker 1>in one or two baskets. And I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>something I see guidance on is you know, how can

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, because I I want to do the

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<v Speaker 1>right I want to do different things, But how can

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<v Speaker 1>I do what's the right thing to do? I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's UM. I feel so strongly about

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<v Speaker 1>so many different issues and so many different things that

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<v Speaker 1>are they're happening in this world, especially, they're they're highlighted

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<v Speaker 1>when you have kids, and you know, so many different

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<v Speaker 1>things that I want to do or change and and

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously I can't do them all. So I I

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<v Speaker 1>really am in that place where I'm trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what is the best way to go about it,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the best thing to do without just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>shouting out everything and probably getting diluted and then in

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<v Speaker 1>the wash. And I think that's the the art I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out now. But I do think the

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<v Speaker 1>see her lead thing was kind of brought to me. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was meant to be, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a super cool thing, and um, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>quite how involved I'm going to be yet, but I

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<v Speaker 1>love the idea of it, and she's great at operating

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<v Speaker 1>it on her own, so she doesn't necessarily need me,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just gonna be there to support and make

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<v Speaker 1>it as as good as possible. And I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of watch that grow. So that's cool, you know,

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:42.600
<v Speaker 1>not knowing what you want to do, that's actually a

0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>great place to be, right and ill evolved, will grow

0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 1>as your family grows, as you grow as a dad,

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<v Speaker 1>as you grow as a person, just trying to decide

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<v Speaker 1>on how, what and where. So just allow that time

0:57:56.800 --> 0:58:00.840
<v Speaker 1>of not knowing. That's a healthy place to be, because

0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 1>what you don't want to be as a young man

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<v Speaker 1>who has all answers, right, I was, That's who I

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<v Speaker 1>was at times, and that didn't serve me well because

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't able to listen to other people around me

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<v Speaker 1>or listen to someone with a with a fresher perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>different perspective, and you're kind of like, man, okay, move on,

0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 1>move on out the way. So that's good. That don't

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:29.200
<v Speaker 1>take you lacking knowing where to go as a as

0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>something negative. Take that something good because that means you

0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:34.120
<v Speaker 1>can got time to shape it. Now, Yeah, you've got

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:36.040
<v Speaker 1>time to shape it, and you may not. I want

0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:38.360
<v Speaker 1>to learn. I think that's important. Is like I want to,

0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, continue to learn and hear different perspectives and

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:45.360
<v Speaker 1>figure out you know, And I think great things are

0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 1>done in teams. I believe that, you know. I think

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you know. I don't want to do anything alone, not

0:58:50.720 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think I can do it, but I

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 1>think there's a better product when you get different perspectives

0:58:54.560 --> 0:58:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and different minds in one room and produce something so

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<v Speaker 1>um still kind of building that team, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Yeah, that's good man, well man, We appreciate

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