Speaker 1: This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at
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Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this
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Speaker 1: asked the questions you always want to know, but no
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Speaker 1: That's that time and insert birdman hand rubbed emoji. It's
Speaker 1: time for a segment. Ain't got the giggles, man, dumbass,
Speaker 1: That's why it's down for a big dummy, you big dummy,
Speaker 1: super duper. So, of course we we like to either
Speaker 1: find an article or where we have something that's happened
Speaker 1: in current events whatever, but this is one. I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a North Carolina guy, but something always
Speaker 1: happens in South Carolina. South Carolina. You can bet your
Speaker 1: bottom dollars, sorry, Scharlamin, you can bet your bottom dollar
Speaker 1: that something happens in South Carolina. So a former state
Speaker 1: trooper in South Carolina is accused of inviting a woman
Speaker 1: over instead of booking her at the County Jail after
Speaker 1: he arrested her on suspicion of a d u y. Now,
Speaker 1: we're not going to use his name and how did
Speaker 1: they find out that that transpires? So we're not going
Speaker 1: to use his name. But he was arrested and booked
Speaker 1: at the Newberry County Detention Center. The jail Newberry the
Speaker 1: same jail where the alleged misconduct occurred. Surveillance footage from
Speaker 1: the detention center and this officer's car camera reportedly captured
Speaker 1: these events from the previous something you it's live, be
Speaker 1: careful to say now. According to the arrest warrant, this
Speaker 1: officer arrested a woman on a d watch charge and
Speaker 1: took her to the detention center about an hour northwest
Speaker 1: of Columbia, South Carolina. He took a long way, but
Speaker 1: instead of booking her, h he he shot her. Shot,
Speaker 1: He shot and shot, and he said, would you like
Speaker 1: to go back to my house? Would you like to
Speaker 1: go back to my careb what however he said, it
Speaker 1: is how he approached her. She reportedly declined the offer.
Speaker 1: Didn't they know my brothers, I'm not interested. I'll pass.
Speaker 1: When you are drunk and you're telling someone no, that
Speaker 1: is a clear indication they're not so, so she sidestep
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders and kept her ballace. So she declined the offer,
Speaker 1: and the police officer drove the woman to his cousin's
Speaker 1: house where he must be where where he hugged her
Speaker 1: and come pplemented her appearance. Quote, she sloppy, drunk and
Speaker 1: you're a police officer. And she said no, and then
Speaker 1: you turned into wear my hug ache and you wear
Speaker 1: my hug first of all, had cuffed, handcuffed, and I'm drunk. Yes, right,
Speaker 1: I'm off for for these incredible hulks, yager monsters, seven
Speaker 1: yager monsters and with like n T like. She did
Speaker 1: not have sex on the beach, and she she is
Speaker 1: intoxicated and it's telling you know so after so, after declining,
Speaker 1: drove the woman to his cousin's house, hugged the complimentaror.
Speaker 1: He later text her back and offered to say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'll get your d you watch you RDS
Speaker 1: dropped if you come back to my career. So she
Speaker 1: told him no, drunk, Yes, I wonder what Her response, Hell, no,
Speaker 1: you know why because you are you big dummy, big dummy,
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, He didn't text her. First of all,
Speaker 1: he's texting her, so that means he went through the
Speaker 1: paperwork that's called stalking. I mean, it don't look like
Speaker 1: she just gave him the digits, so I'm gonna especially
Speaker 1: if she already had declined, So it's I think it's
Speaker 1: likely to say that she wasn't interested. So how did
Speaker 1: you get her number? Anyway? Woa? Yeah? So now the
Speaker 1: South Ronina Highway Patrol asking the state investigators to investigate
Speaker 1: this incident. And yeah, I think pretty much this dude's
Speaker 1: gonna lose his his his ji. He is gonna lose
Speaker 1: his job. And you know what, And I'm sorry that happened.
Speaker 1: I'm extremely sorry that happened. But there is a little
Speaker 1: bit you got to accept. Okay, maybe you didn't take
Speaker 1: the first though, Yeah, maybe you didn't take the second though,
Speaker 1: but the third and fourth. Sometimes you gotta throw your
Speaker 1: hand in, man, I don't throw your hand in. You
Speaker 1: can't play every hand. Let's throw it in. You cannot
Speaker 1: text someone you arrested, well to hang. I have a
Speaker 1: have multiple questions. The biggest question I have is why
Speaker 1: do I want to date someone that was just showed
Speaker 1: me pretty bad decisions? Oh? Yeah, I want her to
Speaker 1: have the children. I want her to be the mother
Speaker 1: of my children. I'm not bad and that if I know,
Speaker 1: plenty of people have done that, plenty of people, but
Speaker 1: I But if I'm in this situation right there, like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's like dating. You're the prosecutor and you
Speaker 1: date the defendant for murder, you know who I want?
Speaker 1: I want her right there? Who's the one who sloppy
Speaker 1: try to dry and hit the car behind her? She
Speaker 1: was trying to leave out that was trying to fare
Speaker 1: level part behind. That's who I want. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: turns was like vomited right now. I don't want her
Speaker 1: so anyway, her breast of mine. Secret seven introducing to you,
Speaker 1: sergeant big dummy, you big dummy, unemployed, big dummy man.
Speaker 1: I hope we got somebody better to him. Coming up
Speaker 1: on the Cut to It podcast, we've got Will Greer,
Speaker 1: a quarterback for the Carolina Panthers. He's a native of
Speaker 1: Stroll at North Carolina and he was all Big twelve
Speaker 1: playing for West Virginia University after he left Florida Universe.
Speaker 1: Will Greer on the Cut to It podcast, is your
Speaker 1: real name? William? Will I am stop it? I don't know.
Speaker 1: What's your middle name, Chadwick. It's a family name. I
Speaker 1: was the first born, so I got the I got
Speaker 1: the family name, William Chadwick Greer. Alright, our first segments
Speaker 1: called get iced up, their icebreakers. They're random questions. I
Speaker 1: have no idea. What's coming? Smithy is pre selected bees, Smitty,
Speaker 1: go ahead and give Will the first one. All right,
Speaker 1: if they made a movie about your life, who would
Speaker 1: you want to play Will in the movie. Matthew mcconnaugh, No, hesitation.
Speaker 1: That was like pretty loaded. Yeah, you thought about that.
Speaker 1: I thought about that ship. Okay, So how was such
Speaker 1: a great actor play such a non speaking role in
Speaker 1: the movie? A non speaking role? What do you mean
Speaker 1: because I don't talk? No, he's just you from Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, wait a minute, my purpose Charlotte
Speaker 1: on it, Tom, I'm sorry Lexington also known as Let's Vegan.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard that he from Charlotte? He's from Charlotte?
Speaker 1: Has he not supposed to come on? Right? You know
Speaker 1: I have fin final editing, so keep no. That was
Speaker 1: a promise. I know where you were going. All right, now,
Speaker 1: I just joke out joke kind of So we need
Speaker 1: you to sing any verse of Hale West Virginia, Hale West,
Speaker 1: the fight song. Yeah, it's specst Virginia, It's spect Virginia,
Speaker 1: the pride of every mountain. Come on you young lads,
Speaker 1: come on you old grads, Espect Virginia. Now we eat you.
Speaker 1: Ra ra ra. He got part of it. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: looking into the first verse. It's in the first verse.
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Down y'all at the bottom. Listen,
Speaker 1: I want a lot of games in West Virginia. We
Speaker 1: sang that song every time. Big flex West Virginia is
Speaker 1: not a big flex we want Hey, we want a
Speaker 1: lot of games West Virginia. Can you pull up our
Speaker 1: fellow West Virginia alumni? Who rated himself? Who raided himself?
Speaker 1: Austin posted about he rated himself. He read the Let's Tavon.
Speaker 1: Austin rated himself as the top He rated the top
Speaker 1: ten best most exciting, most exciting college football players. Would
Speaker 1: you like to hear? Of all time? Would you like
Speaker 1: to hear some of the people? He had keep keep padding.
Speaker 1: I gotta find it. He had some um where would
Speaker 1: do you think braxter Miller is yes of college players?
Speaker 1: Is that like he's high on the list or that's
Speaker 1: a tough question because he's in the football fraternity and
Speaker 1: I don't want to know. Look, I like the way
Speaker 1: Braxon Miller plays football. I don't think he's in the
Speaker 1: top ten most exciting. I'll give you the list. I
Speaker 1: got the list now, but yeah, you're absolutely I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: I'll go. It's gonna count down ten to one. Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: number ten, this is Sam on Austin's list. Number ten,
Speaker 1: Jabrill Peppers. All right, yeah, number nine, I mean this
Speaker 1: is a pretty like is this like in the last
Speaker 1: couple of decades or all time? This is all time,
Speaker 1: all time, all time, all time, number ten, Oh bocal
Speaker 1: number nine, Michael Vick. I like that number nine. No,
Speaker 1: I like it's no he's up there though, he's hold on,
Speaker 1: he's a step ahead of Jabrille. Yeah, for context step
Speaker 1: he just ran a four to seven as a two
Speaker 1: year old man, and he's barely a step above a
Speaker 1: guy who cannot four to seven in his twenties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael Vick is my favorite football player of all time.
Speaker 1: I love Tavon Uston. I already don't like this list. Okay,
Speaker 1: oh well, you just getting ready. Number eight Peter Wark
Speaker 1: the list, Peter Wark is still two steps number and
Speaker 1: the step above Michael Michael Vick. Yeah, I don't agree
Speaker 1: with that. Number seven, Braxton Miller two steps, two steps
Speaker 1: and in front of Michael Vick, Mike, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. Number six. Lamar Jackson. I
Speaker 1: like Lamark. He's in there, man, he hadded, he he was,
Speaker 1: he was electric in college. He had he deserves to
Speaker 1: be in the top ten. I agree with that. Number five,
Speaker 1: the same list with the real preppers. But continue number five.
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel. He was exciting for it was exciting. He
Speaker 1: was exciting. Now he's not more Again, I don't like
Speaker 1: the tim t Bows. Then Johnny football is my guy, though, Man,
Speaker 1: he could be your guy in the context, in the
Speaker 1: context of exciting you all times. It's exciting, it's greatness.
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzell is not great. We ain't saying the only
Speaker 1: thing I will say about this, and we're saying the
Speaker 1: best players all time. I didn't say best in any
Speaker 1: list that there's one through ten. Johnny Manzell was not
Speaker 1: on my ten. Alright. When you talk about all time
Speaker 1: of anything, especially when we're talking about all time, and
Speaker 1: we're rating them in order. Yes, that is a different thing.
Speaker 1: Number four your teammate Christian McCaffrey. Exciting, Yes, yep. Number
Speaker 1: three sa Kwan Barkley all time, keep going. Number two
Speaker 1: on the list of most exciting college football players of
Speaker 1: all time. Number two is Tavon Austin. Mr Gadget himself
Speaker 1: there was number one. Number one is Reggie Bush. I
Speaker 1: think we can all agree. You can. You can argue
Speaker 1: that it was Tavono. So there's Reggie Bush Tavon. So
Speaker 1: here it is Reggie Buss Lambo bent Lea, Tavon Austin. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'll say this. He made the list. He made the list.
Speaker 1: That's the he made. No, he made his own list.
Speaker 1: That is his list. So we after this banter, we
Speaker 1: discovered it was his list because it was it was
Speaker 1: trading on social media, like it was on EESP and
Speaker 1: all the stuff, and I'm looking at the court and
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute. Source Tavon was on his
Speaker 1: social media like bro gonna do I love it? I
Speaker 1: love I love Tavon Austin. Number one. I think he's
Speaker 1: I think he was one of the more electrifying players
Speaker 1: ever in college. I mean he did some like whatever
Speaker 1: he did in the pros, whatever he's he's a hero
Speaker 1: in West Virginia. He's a hero and he made the list.
Speaker 1: If I made a list, I put myself up high
Speaker 1: to you know what I mean, Like you gotta put
Speaker 1: herself up high. Yeah, I mean herself. He was at
Speaker 1: the mountaintop. And that's why I said, I can tell no. No.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I respect the confidence. I don't.
Speaker 1: Not one I owed her. Nope. If he was sitting
Speaker 1: right here, I tell him absolutely not. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: slander my West Virginia. First of all, I don't agree.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not slandering. I'm just stating when
Speaker 1: when I hear all time Tavon Austin is not on
Speaker 1: the list, Johnny Manzel And and here's why I'm not
Speaker 1: even on the list. When you're talking about it, I
Speaker 1: like Peter Wark, Michael Fick, Reggie Bush, Lamar Jackson. I
Speaker 1: will say, when you talk about most exciting, I mean
Speaker 1: what Tavan did against Oklahoma, like put up six fred
Speaker 1: something all purpose yards did be I didn't watch, I
Speaker 1: really did. The guy's exciting from like every time he
Speaker 1: was back returning to kids, something could happen, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? It had that that Devin Hester feeld
Speaker 1: of like he could break he did, and Devin Hester
Speaker 1: and he actually is should best. Now you're barking up
Speaker 1: my Tree't even talk about that. Devin Hester was outstanding
Speaker 1: in college and it transferred to he was also outstanding
Speaker 1: in the league. Tavan was outstanding in college watching the pros.
Speaker 1: Still waiting on it and is fast? I only going
Speaker 1: off college football, bro, it's still fast. Are we moving on? Yes?
Speaker 1: We can move on? Okay, cool, appreciate it alright. Number three,
Speaker 1: give us one thing that you are afraid of or
Speaker 1: scared of. I hate snakes. If I'm walking around outside,
Speaker 1: even in like a backyard, they're probably never had a
Speaker 1: snake in it. I look around for snakes. I'm scared.
Speaker 1: I'm terrified of snakes, not spiders, though some people, like everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody's because you want the spiders real quick and looked
Speaker 1: around like you had like we said that, not spiders,
Speaker 1: h No. But the reason I said that though, because
Speaker 1: most people say this, spiders are like scarier or they're
Speaker 1: more scared of spiders than they are snakes. And I
Speaker 1: totally disagree, all right. You never people always say they're
Speaker 1: scared of spiders. Scared spiders. I'm not scared spiders. That's
Speaker 1: kind of scared of heights. I don't do heights. Do
Speaker 1: you get shaky? No, I just don't go. Don't you
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't know, I don't know to get shaky. Yeah. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's like how like how high does it start to?
Speaker 1: Like I'm not I don't go, but like what you
Speaker 1: get on the ladder, Like if you get on the ladder,
Speaker 1: you don't want to go. But I'm not getting on
Speaker 1: the ladder to go up on a tower. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not like a huge, like my house is a huge,
Speaker 1: but I can get on the roof and you're cool.
Speaker 1: I'm cool. So it's like, but you won't go onto
Speaker 1: like uh like the tour of the Empire State Building,
Speaker 1: Like you know you're not interested in going out there.
Speaker 1: I've talked, I've been there, I've taken the elevator. I'll
Speaker 1: look out on the No need to exactly why I feel?
Speaker 1: How is he going to edge? And nothing? Now they
Speaker 1: now is different where they have cages, they have the stuff,
Speaker 1: so you don't look over there because some people have
Speaker 1: attempted to do some things that are not very good.
Speaker 1: All right, So last one, and I think this is
Speaker 1: really interesting. Would you rather lose your front tooth or
Speaker 1: shave your head? Oh? Shave my head all day, all day.
Speaker 1: I would have thought you wanted to. You you wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to. I get, I get why you think that?
Speaker 1: Why why was that? Got long hair? Like I've been
Speaker 1: my hair's been I'm going my hair for like two
Speaker 1: years now. But rather shave my head? Why? What? What?
Speaker 1: What would losing your tooth do? I don't know did
Speaker 1: it would do? Like? What can we replace it? Like? What?
Speaker 1: What's the like? It's your ugliness however you want to
Speaker 1: fix it? I mean, all right, I'll say this. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind having a bus cut at all. I would
Speaker 1: mind if I had to walk around without a front
Speaker 1: to mess up, messed up my whole the whole spiel,
Speaker 1: yeah everything, if you lost how confident with the whole
Speaker 1: beard and hair thing? Though? If I lost my TI,
Speaker 1: it would just mess it all up. Yeah, the whole thing,
Speaker 1: the whole thing, like the smile, everything, the confidencement. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to be alignment or a hockey player, like
Speaker 1: you don't see hockey players that like you know on
Speaker 1: movies or stuff. Number five, we don't even have a file.
Speaker 1: If you couldnt be a wire, not be a quarterback,
Speaker 1: could you still play football? That I've thought about this.
Speaker 1: It's a tough like. So. Actually, David Sills, one of
Speaker 1: my receivers in West Virginia, was a quarterback. I don't
Speaker 1: know who he is. He was a quarterback up until
Speaker 1: when I he came back the first year playing receiver. Seriously,
Speaker 1: first year playing he was a quarterback his whole life.
Speaker 1: Came back played receiver and caught like touchdowns and then yeah, humble,
Speaker 1: he's on the he's with the Giants now was on
Speaker 1: the active ross and stuff like that. So and he
Speaker 1: made you Now he's granted, he's probably a better athlete
Speaker 1: than I am, but he had never played receiver ever
Speaker 1: and was able to make that switch. We have to
Speaker 1: take a break and the morning thing, we gotta pay
Speaker 1: some bill. You got checks. I love cut to It,
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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts. I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for,
Speaker 1: a brother cut to a podcast dot com. Did you
Speaker 1: always know you wanted to play quarterback? No, so, I yes,
Speaker 1: in a way. I also played basketball and baseball growing up.
Speaker 1: I loved both positions. Basketball is a shooting guard. Um.
Speaker 1: And then in baseball, I kind of I jumped around,
Speaker 1: played shortstop, center field, first base I was a catcher.
Speaker 1: I was a picture. Did you play those prior of football?
Speaker 1: I played it all kind of together. Yeah. So I
Speaker 1: started playing football and I was like seven, loved I
Speaker 1: loved football. Um. As I got older, I got my
Speaker 1: first offers in football. So East Carolina was my first
Speaker 1: offer ever sophomore year and then uh, it kind of
Speaker 1: took off after that, but that was that was like
Speaker 1: my first That's when I started. Those are my first offers,
Speaker 1: so I, you know, kind of committed to football after that. Um,
Speaker 1: I had played other positions. I played safety, growing up
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But when it came down to
Speaker 1: like what I was gonna play in college, I mean,
Speaker 1: quarterback was the only shot I had. Um fast. Now,
Speaker 1: I was fast, I was a really good athlete, but
Speaker 1: I never I was the quarterback of my team. I
Speaker 1: never practiced playing receiver or anything else. So again, it
Speaker 1: would have like and I probably could have made the
Speaker 1: switch then and done something, but now it was too late. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it got too late in college for sure.
Speaker 1: All your fast switches left. All right, let's get down
Speaker 1: to it, all right, So where where are you from?
Speaker 1: And the place you call your hometown? So I was
Speaker 1: born in Charlotte, U n c C. I lived up north,
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes north of here. Kind of moved around
Speaker 1: a lot. My parents were divorced, uh so I lived
Speaker 1: with my mom most of the time, and my dad
Speaker 1: kind of got more custody as we got older, so
Speaker 1: I bounced back and forth. But they moved a bunch.
Speaker 1: So I kind of say Charlotte just to generalize that,
Speaker 1: because I didn't live in one place for more than
Speaker 1: you know, three I think I lived in Davidson for
Speaker 1: three years of my mom that's probably the longest I
Speaker 1: ever lived in one place. I did not really shape
Speaker 1: your your view on the world because Charlotte has grown
Speaker 1: so much, all right, I know it's it's changed my
Speaker 1: view of the world. Um, you know when I first
Speaker 1: moved here in two thousand and one, compared to now,
Speaker 1: it's Charlotte is a whole different place. Downtown uptown is
Speaker 1: considered Actually it's it's it's ever changing. I have some family,
Speaker 1: that's that's from Charlotte. No, you got a lot of family.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that because I always run into people.
Speaker 1: I run in a will Greer family folk. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: career is a legendary. Yeah, oh that's my nephew. Yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of my family has been here a long time,
Speaker 1: so they've seen it even more drastically. I mean, I
Speaker 1: got my dad's uncle sixty six years old, was born
Speaker 1: in Charlotte and has been here for sixty six years.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about like the growth, Like he was
Speaker 1: here when try On was a dirt road. There was
Speaker 1: no uptown. It was not it was not the place
Speaker 1: you see today. I mean that's the that's the thing
Speaker 1: that my dad, you know, was was born raised in Charlotte.
Speaker 1: He he lived kind of over by the the Y
Speaker 1: m c A. And Carmel. I mean now Carmel's like this,
Speaker 1: you know, nice super nice neighborhood and everything. But he,
Speaker 1: I mean he'll drive around and I mean even more
Speaker 1: so than me. So I mean I was here twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. I'd come down to even the city or whatever,
Speaker 1: and um, drive around and I mean it's south end
Speaker 1: to see what it is now just for me, but
Speaker 1: my dad. For my dad, it's like the neighborhoods, like
Speaker 1: you see the houses, like I mean they're just knocking
Speaker 1: down houses and building a million dollar houses everywhere around
Speaker 1: like surrounding the city. Um, and just it's it's like
Speaker 1: it was neighborhoods that he grew up, like riding his
Speaker 1: bike and you know what I mean, playing stickball, playing
Speaker 1: football plan and to see just the I mean just
Speaker 1: the traffic alone, the roads, the stores, that everything that's
Speaker 1: like grown around the city even is like so different
Speaker 1: than than it was twenty years ago. Um. So you know,
Speaker 1: just in that in that aspect you growing up and
Speaker 1: seeing this place grow and obviously growing up when were
Speaker 1: you born, so when it was just a thought of
Speaker 1: a football team and then possibly going to the games
Speaker 1: and then eventually now participate in that game. In those
Speaker 1: games and being in that jersey. What what is it
Speaker 1: like for you? Yeah, so it's it's it's crazy. So
Speaker 1: um but put put more emotions on the crazy park
Speaker 1: because it's not it's not often that someone grows up
Speaker 1: in the city they end up playing. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: not normal. Well, I I mean when I was coming
Speaker 1: out of the draft that Carolina wasn't even on my radar,
Speaker 1: like I I mean, I was one of the like
Speaker 1: top guys. So I was, you know, thinking of the
Speaker 1: quarterback needy teams, like who's like in the teams I'm
Speaker 1: meeting with or whatever, And um as I started to
Speaker 1: fall in the draft and Carolina just picked me up
Speaker 1: because of value, Like they just picked me based on
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't need a quarterback. I mean Cam
Speaker 1: was here, they had Kyle coming back, whatever. Um so
Speaker 1: I was kind of surprising. But when I you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't really sink in until I put the practice
Speaker 1: jersey on and went out to the practice field. I
Speaker 1: was like, because it wasn't on my mind to come
Speaker 1: here at all. You know, I was going to play football.
Speaker 1: You know, you're going to a job to play football.
Speaker 1: And then when I came here, it made it like
Speaker 1: this whole like you know, hometown thing, Like I'm looking
Speaker 1: for a place to live in my hometown, you know.
Speaker 1: And you know all the little Nicks and Crane, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and everybody knows them as my success. You had families
Speaker 1: all here, I mean, like my my my family has
Speaker 1: gotten to watch my kids, you know, grow up, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like that's something that I don't
Speaker 1: know if I would have had if I went somewhere else,
Speaker 1: And you know that that's been really cool, but it
Speaker 1: was It was never I never related the like NFL
Speaker 1: to playing for Carolina. It wasn't like a thing that
Speaker 1: I ever, like I guess wanted or tried to manifest.
Speaker 1: So you obviously watched the game or two in your
Speaker 1: you know, when you were younger. And then that first
Speaker 1: time you're dressed, you know, not necessarily playing, but just dressed.
Speaker 1: Are you out at UH training camp at at Walford
Speaker 1: and you're out at fan fest and you're out there
Speaker 1: practicing And now this time, instead of watching and observing,
Speaker 1: you are participating. How was that you have to kind
Speaker 1: of I had to kind of almost blocked that child,
Speaker 1: Like why because I had to perform, Like I quickly
Speaker 1: would like go there and be like, damn, this is cool,
Speaker 1: Like I, I you know this, You're right, Like I
Speaker 1: would grow up. You know I've watched you catch that
Speaker 1: post in two thousand three against the Rams. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the skinny post is neck. He scored with it. And
Speaker 1: then I like my Uh. I even went to a
Speaker 1: couple of Panther games and like sat in the stadium
Speaker 1: when I was younger growing up just because I played football.
Speaker 1: My dad knew I liked to play football. It took
Speaker 1: me two games whatever, So I would like even in
Speaker 1: the stadium, like I can look up and see like
Speaker 1: where I sat, you know what I mean, and like
Speaker 1: I and I'll do that real quick. And then I
Speaker 1: wasn't refocused. It was in section, so it's like right
Speaker 1: above the right above the handicap, but it's it's all
Speaker 1: the way it's all the way up, so it's under
Speaker 1: the second slash, third level right so you got the
Speaker 1: sweets and it's right there on the cusp right there
Speaker 1: before you go to the nosebleed. The reason I'm asking is,
Speaker 1: uh I got an opportunity to playing Candlestick right, being
Speaker 1: a FOURT Niners fan never got the chance to sit
Speaker 1: in Candlestick, but just to be there and go through it.
Speaker 1: I remember the first time my rookie year we played
Speaker 1: San Francisco at Candlestick and it was awesome. But I
Speaker 1: I I sat in the moment I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: did you do with Will? Did not checked out? You
Speaker 1: didn't try to check out? No, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm playing more than Hanks, right, I live. I lived
Speaker 1: that moment because for us, they they end up leaving,
Speaker 1: They end up you know, them on a place two
Speaker 1: three years later, and then they moved to the NFC West. No,
Speaker 1: we moved to the NFC South because I was still
Speaker 1: in the NFC the NFC West, whereas Rams, Carolina, Atlanta
Speaker 1: and San Francisco and then San Francisco left, Tampa filled
Speaker 1: that void and they realigned. So I didn't. I didn't blow,
Speaker 1: I didn't block it out. I actually sat in it
Speaker 1: and it was really really cool. Yeah. I've done it
Speaker 1: a few times. Like like I said, like if I'm
Speaker 1: when I go out to like play or practice, I
Speaker 1: have to like I have to block everything out and
Speaker 1: just lock in on the just because it's whatever is
Speaker 1: going on in my head, like I need full I blocked.
Speaker 1: I don't listen, like I block everything out and just
Speaker 1: I'm on I'm on the field, like that's just the
Speaker 1: way I've always played, is like I'm in between those lines.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm you know, but I'm I'm. I'm saying you
Speaker 1: gotta live that because it will help you actually be
Speaker 1: a little freer. Yeah, I think you need to actually
Speaker 1: think about it and actually will tighten you up. So
Speaker 1: then you can go out there and you can start out.
Speaker 1: You can start you gotta Did you ever go to
Speaker 1: a practice? My mom took me down to Offord? All right,
Speaker 1: So who's who's the quarterback? Um? At that time? All right,
Speaker 1: he was out there throwing a pass or somebody you
Speaker 1: may know. So if he's stowing, he's out there throwing
Speaker 1: that pass. It was nice and then that that will
Speaker 1: I received one up and get it right. So why
Speaker 1: can't you mimic that? Right? So you still have that
Speaker 1: little boy inside of you that you go, I'm just
Speaker 1: be I'm be gun gun slinger, jake, me throw it
Speaker 1: to my guy, and all of a sudden you're just
Speaker 1: throwing it and now it's less of a job. Now
Speaker 1: it becomes you just kind you kind of just you're
Speaker 1: playing with house money. Yeah right, yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think I think there's a balance and that, like
Speaker 1: I think that I could be better at living in
Speaker 1: the moment and being more loose and playing like having
Speaker 1: that child Like it's still a game. Now. You still
Speaker 1: go out there. You still you still go out there
Speaker 1: and just and sling it and receiver, we go out
Speaker 1: there and try to make that one hand and catch
Speaker 1: or that impossible. You gotta have a little bit of
Speaker 1: that for sure, for sure, because you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to do it. Like that was one thing I always
Speaker 1: did in practice. I would catch your ball a certain way.
Speaker 1: Just let me see if I could try this. Like
Speaker 1: I'll let a ball if I'm going on a deep
Speaker 1: over and the quarterback throws and leaves me, I would
Speaker 1: let the ball go over my head and I catch
Speaker 1: it right there. To wearing the game where I had
Speaker 1: to concentrate. I know that guy is gonna hit me,
Speaker 1: but if I'm doing this, I'm gonna drop it. But
Speaker 1: now if it goes over there, bang, I just right there.
Speaker 1: Now he comes hitting me, was right there, you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of living that childhood. So speaking to childhood,
Speaker 1: how would you how would you summarize the way that
Speaker 1: your childhood affects you as an adult right now? I
Speaker 1: think the the main when I think back to like
Speaker 1: my childhood, it was surrounded by sports, Like I grew
Speaker 1: up playing football, basketball, baseball. UM. I just love to compete.
Speaker 1: That's what I did. So I most of my childhood
Speaker 1: memories are me sitting at AU tournaments, basketball, baseball, whatever
Speaker 1: it may be, UM and playing ball. And I think
Speaker 1: that I learned so much of my life skills from
Speaker 1: being on a team playing sports. UM. That kind of
Speaker 1: got I mean all I did. That kind of got
Speaker 1: me away from doing anything else on the weekends because
Speaker 1: I I filled my schedule up with UM with tournaments
Speaker 1: and games and practices, and I just wanted to be
Speaker 1: great at whatever I was doing. Like I was, you know,
Speaker 1: practicing my left hand with basketball or like hitting balls
Speaker 1: in the cage or whatever whatever the sport was. Like,
Speaker 1: I was just all in and just focusing on that.
Speaker 1: And I think now that I'm kind of in the
Speaker 1: professional field or like now it's more of a business,
Speaker 1: I've started to kind of you know, peel back the
Speaker 1: layers of like what's outside of sports, right, you know,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I lacked a lot of that
Speaker 1: growing up. Like I was so I guess focused on
Speaker 1: sports that I I wasn't opening my eyes to the
Speaker 1: rest of life in the world. Um So I think
Speaker 1: the past as an adult, you know, especially having kids,
Speaker 1: you know, I've kind of started to you know, see
Speaker 1: life for what it is and see kind of where
Speaker 1: I fit in or what I truly care about other
Speaker 1: than just football. Do you feel like something. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like I think miss something is fair, but I
Speaker 1: think it's it's more so just like I, I wasn't
Speaker 1: as in tune with just I was just like I
Speaker 1: it like I kind of black. I just you know,
Speaker 1: block everything and play sports because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: maybe I didn't want to deal with that or maybe
Speaker 1: like something's going on and like I didn't like it,
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm just gonna block it out. And
Speaker 1: I think I did that so much in my childhood
Speaker 1: that I may be missed out on experiences or opportunities
Speaker 1: to you know, get creative or see what else that
Speaker 1: I may have liked other than other than sports because
Speaker 1: I was just so hyper focused on it. Um but
Speaker 1: I think, you know, as an adult now, I have
Speaker 1: an opportunity and especially especially with my kids, to kind
Speaker 1: of explore childhood again and do some things that you know,
Speaker 1: not that I didn't have an opportunity to do, but
Speaker 1: I didn't really take advantage of when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely an overthinker. And yeah, no, I'm definitely an overthinker.
Speaker 1: But that is something that like it I wish and
Speaker 1: that I think having kids is really what brought it
Speaker 1: to my Like I want my kids to just like create, explore,
Speaker 1: do things like that's I wish I would have done
Speaker 1: more of that, I guess, and let my emotions like
Speaker 1: don't block out sadness, don't block out anger, like just
Speaker 1: feel it, address it. Like those are the kind of
Speaker 1: things that my whole childhood I like just blocked out.
Speaker 1: And I think I think it's healthy to to experience
Speaker 1: those things. So playing multiple sports growing up and your
Speaker 1: dad being your football coach, how is that interesting? We
Speaker 1: got a yeah, but no helicopter dad. No, not no,
Speaker 1: not really, I mean, especially since you know my parents
Speaker 1: were divorced, I lived with with both of him. He
Speaker 1: wasn't helicopter dad or overbearing or anything like that. Um,
Speaker 1: but he was my football coach, and we butt heads
Speaker 1: a lot because I think, you know, we're similar in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Really, We're both very passionate, right
Speaker 1: especially about football. So as you know, the coach, quarterback,
Speaker 1: he's calling plays on the quarterback. There's generally things that
Speaker 1: we would just disagree. Yeah, disagree. Butt heads all the time,
Speaker 1: especially when you say disagree. How does a disagreement between
Speaker 1: a father and son, head coach and quarterback. Least explain
Speaker 1: that to him because I've got to make the dentist
Speaker 1: table interesting, damn the diner table, to walk home everything?
Speaker 1: How should I say it his ryan home, You'll walk
Speaker 1: home exactly? No, I mean, I mean it was. It
Speaker 1: was definitely, you know, an interesting dynamic. I think he
Speaker 1: handled it really well. I think I handled it poorly
Speaker 1: a lot more than he did, just because the the
Speaker 1: way that I would I I was dismissive sometimes to
Speaker 1: him as a coach, but him also as a father.
Speaker 1: Made it tough on our relationship, our father's son relationship.
Speaker 1: And I think the way and our relationship is great now,
Speaker 1: by the way, Like I think that that experience kind
Speaker 1: of made our relationship even strong grew when I was
Speaker 1: an adult and playing somewhere else, and really he was
Speaker 1: being really tough on me and hard on me to
Speaker 1: prepare me for college, preparing me to his in his mind,
Speaker 1: you know, he was gonna beat me to the ground,
Speaker 1: you know, like really be as tough as possible on
Speaker 1: me in every aspect to make me better. That's kind
Speaker 1: of how he was raised and how he wanted to
Speaker 1: raise me. And I kind of saw it as not that,
Speaker 1: and I just did say it is he was picking
Speaker 1: on you, not necessarily that. I just think it was.
Speaker 1: I saw it as you know, I'm like, I'm doing
Speaker 1: everything right, I'm doing what you told. Like even when
Speaker 1: he was wrong, he wouldn't admit he was wrong, and
Speaker 1: because he wanted to be he wanted me to just
Speaker 1: say yes sir and move on. And as him being
Speaker 1: my father, I wanted to just talk to him and
Speaker 1: be like like, no, you're like you're wrong, let me
Speaker 1: let me tell you my perspective of this whatever. But
Speaker 1: he was trying to be the coach that's like, you're not.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to come to me with excuses.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to come to me with any
Speaker 1: of that, Like just yes, sir, move on to it
Speaker 1: right the next time. And I think that was the
Speaker 1: toughest part of the the relationship aspect, because you know,
Speaker 1: I think when when you go home and it's your dad,
Speaker 1: it's very different than when he's out there on the field.
Speaker 1: And I think when I was done playing for him,
Speaker 1: I realized what he was trying to do. But in
Speaker 1: the moment, even if he's telling me that can't understand
Speaker 1: let me play this out. You want to explain to
Speaker 1: the head coach and who happens to be your father,
Speaker 1: and he didn't want to listen to it. So then
Speaker 1: you go down to college and now the coach that
Speaker 1: is giving your instruction who is not your dad, and
Speaker 1: you can't be dismissed, and you can't be dismissive, and
Speaker 1: you still can't debate with him. I did that work
Speaker 1: out for you? I was. I felt as prepared as
Speaker 1: I could be when I went to Florida. I was
Speaker 1: what Will must Champ was. The was the head coach,
Speaker 1: and he's known to be firing and passionate, yell at
Speaker 1: people or whatever, and none of that faced me at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was for whatever. I think usually at
Speaker 1: that point yeah, I think that really whatever reason, No
Speaker 1: it's a reason. No you don't want to give him credit? No, No,
Speaker 1: If I was saying for whatever it's worth, I think
Speaker 1: he I think he like I think what was he
Speaker 1: over the top? Sometimes if you ask my uncle's yes,
Speaker 1: my dad, no, I think he did, you know, and
Speaker 1: he'll tell you. I think sometimes he crossed the line.
Speaker 1: Not nothing crazy right, and it wasn't it. But I
Speaker 1: do think that it prepared me for college and for life.
Speaker 1: And was coming out of college. You signed with Florida
Speaker 1: Florida and what years were that? Fifteen? And then I
Speaker 1: had that work out, So I read short of my
Speaker 1: first year, this was the quarterback Jeff DRIs school and
Speaker 1: uh Jacoby transferred year. I came in pri set so
Speaker 1: it was Jeff dry school and then me and Trion
Speaker 1: Harris came in the same year. Um we, So I
Speaker 1: read shirted must Champ got fired after the South Carolina game.
Speaker 1: We didn't have a good year. Um so he got fired.
Speaker 1: They brought in um Jim mcwain. Doug nut Smyer was
Speaker 1: the o c um coming in. Uh We, Me and
Speaker 1: Trion were competing for the starting job. Competed all the
Speaker 1: way through camp up really until the first game. We
Speaker 1: split time in the first game of the year, um,
Speaker 1: and then I got the nod for the next five
Speaker 1: games after that. I guess I kind of won the
Speaker 1: competition in in that game. UM, and we were rolling
Speaker 1: six and oh, like we beat Old Miss the week
Speaker 1: after they beat Alabama, they were like number three in
Speaker 1: the country. We were ranked super high. Our defense was
Speaker 1: super good. Like we we had a we had a
Speaker 1: shot to go, and then I got suspended. I think
Speaker 1: it's about that time. Just take a little breather. Good do,
Speaker 1: good do. Let's getting down to dood. Hey Gerard, why
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Speaker 1: us wherever you listen to podcasts. So I got suspended
Speaker 1: for a year for p DS performance and enhancing drugs,
Speaker 1: and I to this day, yes, I don't know where
Speaker 1: it came from. Okay, I didn't know, so that's why
Speaker 1: I was like, Yeah, So the way it wins is
Speaker 1: I I came coach Matt called into his office one day,
Speaker 1: He's like, you failed a drug test and I was blindsided.
Speaker 1: I was like for what, Like, You're like, man, I
Speaker 1: took that Golden Seal. What are you talking? So I
Speaker 1: came in and did told me and didn't see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't trust you can't trust any especially back then,
Speaker 1: you can't trust at the seal with clean everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what that was. I I was, I was,
Speaker 1: I was young, I was I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that that was even like when I
Speaker 1: thought pd S, I'm thinking like steroids. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: didn't know, Like yeah, I mean, it's it's crazy. And
Speaker 1: I at the time, like I said, I was just
Speaker 1: young and I didn't I mean, I wasn't. I had
Speaker 1: no idea. So I go do that press conference and
Speaker 1: I'm you know, and it was a year suspension. So
Speaker 1: right after it happened, Coach Mack was like, just get
Speaker 1: out of the building and figure out because we were
Speaker 1: going to appeal it because you know, we you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to wipe it. I didn't think I
Speaker 1: did anything wrong or whatever. See what's going on. Um.
Speaker 1: During the appeal process, he didn't want me in the building.
Speaker 1: He thought I was a distraction. So I wasn't. I
Speaker 1: was living in Gainsville, but I wasn't allowed to come
Speaker 1: in to the football building during this appeal process. He didn't,
Speaker 1: like I said, want me to be a distraction. So
Speaker 1: did you feel like, how how long did it take
Speaker 1: you to figure out something was going on? Shortly thereafter?
Speaker 1: It was short a couple of weeks. I mean I
Speaker 1: was figured. I was so focused on the appeal or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then I kind of took a step back and
Speaker 1: I was talking to my dad talking with some people,
Speaker 1: and it was it was weird they didn't want me around,
Speaker 1: especially as a leader of the team. I mean for
Speaker 1: somebody they supported. Yeah, you know, and I I kind
Speaker 1: of got the hint. I went in and met with
Speaker 1: him two more times and was like, look, man, I
Speaker 1: I'm gonna serve this suspension, like you know, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: like I may I may get disappealed, like I don't
Speaker 1: know what it's going to be, but then I want
Speaker 1: to be right back, like I'll do whatever I gotta
Speaker 1: do it. During the spot and he was like, I
Speaker 1: think a fresh start would be good for you. WHOA yeah,
Speaker 1: so he and so he tells you a fresh start,
Speaker 1: what's going on? And so what's going on with little Chadwicks?
Speaker 1: Hen So I think, honestly, like I had never got
Speaker 1: a good memory. I never wanted to leave Florida. I
Speaker 1: loved the school. I you know, wanted to be there
Speaker 1: my whole career. Um that was kind of like the
Speaker 1: harsh reality was that was my head coach. And like
Speaker 1: I think, honestly, when I think about it, I think
Speaker 1: he was thinking of my best interests. I don't think
Speaker 1: and I don't know, and I may be thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: glass half full here, but I truly think he was
Speaker 1: trying to help me and saying that, like he could
Speaker 1: have just told me to stay right, compete for the
Speaker 1: job and then never you know, really let me have it.
Speaker 1: Like when it came down to it, do you believe
Speaker 1: because of what happened and it was kind of one
Speaker 1: of those things where it was a stain, I think, yes,
Speaker 1: I think that. And I think also that he didn't
Speaker 1: want I think it was for sure there were some
Speaker 1: politics surrounding it in my mind, like he didn't want
Speaker 1: even if I served the suspension and come back. And
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it would have been tough to
Speaker 1: put me back in that and that starting role after
Speaker 1: giving what had happened, even though it was an accident,
Speaker 1: even though you know, I didn't you know, kill somebody
Speaker 1: or hurt anything like, but it was just it was
Speaker 1: a stain for sure. Yeah. So he gave me a
Speaker 1: list of schools that I couldn't transferred to that I
Speaker 1: could transfer to. He gave you a list, yeah, like
Speaker 1: these you can't go. So I couldn't go anywhere in
Speaker 1: the SEC he said that. Yeah, he printed out a list. Wow,
Speaker 1: so he told you here's way. But this was back
Speaker 1: when you could do that. Oh oh, because they had
Speaker 1: to do he can't do that anymore. This was back
Speaker 1: so yeah, so he gave me a piece of pavor
Speaker 1: like this, and it had like I couldn't go anywhere
Speaker 1: in the SEC or like anybody that was on the
Speaker 1: schedule next year or something like that, which was normal
Speaker 1: at the time. Like you just you know, I think
Speaker 1: it's amazing he had that paper on on hand though,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it was he just like
Speaker 1: and why we hear it, but but how do you
Speaker 1: how do you like maybe it's maybe this is where
Speaker 1: we're starting to go. But that situation being labeled as
Speaker 1: a as a as a stain quote unquote or you
Speaker 1: being called a distraction, and of course you having to
Speaker 1: go through a suspension. How do you deal with that mentally? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was when that's probably not your Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a lot because it didn't represent who I am, like
Speaker 1: that I stay out of trouble in every way. I mean,
Speaker 1: I keep my nose very clean. And that was a
Speaker 1: stain to the public eye. But it was a huge
Speaker 1: stain on myself mentally, Like I like messed up for
Speaker 1: the first time. I lafe and I'm talking about you
Speaker 1: didn't even know what you messed up on because people
Speaker 1: don't know. People don't even realize pete ease. Isn't that
Speaker 1: I mean you could. It's a wide range, bro it's medicine, right,
Speaker 1: it's certain, it's it's it's certain even to the point
Speaker 1: of certain aspirants, Like there's certain aspirants that you can't take.
Speaker 1: You gotta be and you know, I think it's talked
Speaker 1: about born now than it was when I was that age.
Speaker 1: But you have to as an athlete, you have you're responsible,
Speaker 1: like so well, I wonder how would the how how
Speaker 1: was the coverage on you impacting you mentally? I think
Speaker 1: what impacted me the most was that I had messed
Speaker 1: up like that it was all happening. It was my
Speaker 1: fault that there was nobody else to blame, you know,
Speaker 1: it was it was ignorance, but it was still Now
Speaker 1: when you go back, what do you think it was
Speaker 1: that you too? Well? So it was like I was
Speaker 1: taking other guys pre work out in the locker room.
Speaker 1: I was taking like you typical college kids, even in
Speaker 1: the prose, and hey, I'm done, I'm I'm I'm going.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was. It was just like you know,
Speaker 1: got onyx so well. I mean, you've had to deal
Speaker 1: with a lot in in a short career. How do
Speaker 1: you deal with um, the adversity in in in in
Speaker 1: college and now even going into your program? How do
Speaker 1: you deal with this adversity overall? Yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: adversity is has made me better in all aspects. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't seek out adversity like I'm I'm not. I
Speaker 1: don't wake up and say like, hey, what what can
Speaker 1: I do to make my life funny? How that works out?
Speaker 1: You never go seeking food. But when it's some stupid
Speaker 1: as people out there go find me some adversity today,
Speaker 1: but some dummies. But I will say that the leaves
Speaker 1: and bounds of growth in my career have always come
Speaker 1: when adversity happens. Not at the top, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I think you're still growing, But I think
Speaker 1: when that adversity happens, like I've handled it in different ways,
Speaker 1: but as you figure it out and as you get
Speaker 1: through it, that's when I've made the biggest leaps and
Speaker 1: in my development on and off the field. Um So
Speaker 1: that's I mean in my mind. Like like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't seek adversity, but I appreciate it all right.
Speaker 1: When our last segment it's called deep three, it's many
Speaker 1: deep three Okay, First one, really, you know what are
Speaker 1: you thankful for the way you were raised? You know,
Speaker 1: obviously you you spoke about the divorce between your your parents,
Speaker 1: but being a being a father? Now, Um, what is
Speaker 1: something that your parents, even though they were divorced, they
Speaker 1: gave you something that that they gave you a great
Speaker 1: outlook on being being a parent. Yeah, I think they
Speaker 1: Number one, they both loved me unconditionally through anything, Like
Speaker 1: both of them separately we're over the top about that,
Speaker 1: like like they always like you know, cared for me,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, no, absolutely go through to go through a
Speaker 1: divorce and be able to separate them and us, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but still love on the kids. They both were champions
Speaker 1: at that and that's why we have such good relationships
Speaker 1: me and my brothers with my mom and my dad
Speaker 1: still is because of that, I believe, um. But I
Speaker 1: think from a parenting perspective having my own kids, they
Speaker 1: one they both got remarried and are in healthy marriages now,
Speaker 1: which is super cool to see. Actually, like you know them,
Speaker 1: you know, they they were married, had us, they got divorced,
Speaker 1: but then they found somebody else, and we're able to
Speaker 1: be in a healthy marriage. So it wasn't they weren't
Speaker 1: right for each other, but neither of them clearly aren't.
Speaker 1: You know, they haven't had problems with relationships since then,
Speaker 1: So I think it was you know, cool to watch
Speaker 1: both of them being another relationship and and both of
Speaker 1: my stepparents were awesome as well. I mean we really
Speaker 1: you know, I appreciated the way the entire situation was handled.
Speaker 1: All that was a bad situation, Like they were always
Speaker 1: really respectful of separating and all that was going on
Speaker 1: and um and us. And I think what it taught me.
Speaker 1: I think it taught me some of what not to
Speaker 1: do in a relationship, especially with young kids, um, just
Speaker 1: from the you know, with when my parents were together
Speaker 1: when I was younger. UM. But I also think it
Speaker 1: taught me, like you know, in that you know, how
Speaker 1: to you know, treat your wife in front of your
Speaker 1: kids right, how to treat for me, you know like that,
Speaker 1: different things you kind of pick up on naturally. I
Speaker 1: think that they were you know, my mom and my
Speaker 1: dad both were always in front of us, respectful of
Speaker 1: each other. Um. And I think that you know, that
Speaker 1: was you know, really cool of them and help, you know,
Speaker 1: my parenting skills. What's the most important thing that your
Speaker 1: dad taught you off the field, I think just overall respect.
Speaker 1: I think he was he was big on respect everybody.
Speaker 1: Janitor to to the CEO, like the old saying they say,
Speaker 1: I mean, um so much show that I don't even
Speaker 1: I don't even see it that way. Like I I
Speaker 1: just see everybody it's like second nature to Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just second nature. Like I just have a respect for
Speaker 1: every being, animal, human, anything. I mean, I just I
Speaker 1: respect everybody from any situation they come from, and especially
Speaker 1: if you don't know it, I have respect for whatever
Speaker 1: the that that situation is. UM. I think you know,
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing that he always instilled, Like you know,
Speaker 1: it used to be yes sir, yes, ma'am. It's not
Speaker 1: that's not as cooler as popular today. UM, but that
Speaker 1: kind of led into the respect for everybody thing. And
Speaker 1: that's you know, that was you know, his his biggest
Speaker 1: thing was even I mean on the field too, but
Speaker 1: especially off the field. Just respect. Now, what's your career
Speaker 1: where it is, you know, just trying to you know,
Speaker 1: obviously trying to make it and trying to figure things out. UM,
Speaker 1: whatever impact you have on the field, that's fantastic. You
Speaker 1: know what what is what impact do you want to
Speaker 1: have off the field. I think any kind of positive
Speaker 1: impact I can make on any because I haven't and
Speaker 1: I don't have a specific foundation. And I'm actually meeting
Speaker 1: with somebody after this, UM that she runs a group
Speaker 1: called See Her Lead and it's a group for uh,
Speaker 1: you know, basically middle school high school girls. UM. It's
Speaker 1: it's a leadership uh summit. They have, you know, weeks
Speaker 1: they have lessons, they do, camps, they do UM it's
Speaker 1: it's a super cool organization that that she set up.
Speaker 1: She actually taught ninth grade English to me and we
Speaker 1: connected and and UM I started talking about this UM
Speaker 1: her program and how she's growing and how I can
Speaker 1: get involved and help and UM. You know, so I
Speaker 1: love the idea of that. Having two daughters, UM, that
Speaker 1: kind of hits close to home for me. UM. But
Speaker 1: I think in general, like I there's different things that
Speaker 1: I've experienced in my life that I want to you know,
Speaker 1: be a part of, and and and but I really
Speaker 1: am still trying to narrow down and because instead of
Speaker 1: trying to do everything a little bit, I want to
Speaker 1: have a lasting impact on one thing. And it's been tough,
Speaker 1: honestly to kind of, you know, put all my eggs
Speaker 1: in one or two baskets. And I feel like that's
Speaker 1: something I see guidance on is you know, how can
Speaker 1: I you know, because I I want to do the
Speaker 1: right I want to do different things, But how can
Speaker 1: I do what's the right thing to do? I guess,
Speaker 1: And I think that's UM. I feel so strongly about
Speaker 1: so many different issues and so many different things that
Speaker 1: are they're happening in this world, especially, they're they're highlighted
Speaker 1: when you have kids, and you know, so many different
Speaker 1: things that I want to do or change and and
Speaker 1: and obviously I can't do them all. So I I
Speaker 1: really am in that place where I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what is the best way to go about it,
Speaker 1: what's the best thing to do without just you know,
Speaker 1: shouting out everything and probably getting diluted and then in
Speaker 1: the wash. And I think that's the the art I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out now. But I do think the
Speaker 1: see her lead thing was kind of brought to me. Um,
Speaker 1: I think it was meant to be, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a super cool thing, and um, I don't know
Speaker 1: quite how involved I'm going to be yet, but I
Speaker 1: love the idea of it, and she's great at operating
Speaker 1: it on her own, so she doesn't necessarily need me,
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna be there to support and make
Speaker 1: it as as good as possible. And I'm excited to
Speaker 1: kind of watch that grow. So that's cool, you know,
Speaker 1: not knowing what you want to do, that's actually a
Speaker 1: great place to be, right and ill evolved, will grow
Speaker 1: as your family grows, as you grow as a dad,
Speaker 1: as you grow as a person, just trying to decide
Speaker 1: on how, what and where. So just allow that time
Speaker 1: of not knowing. That's a healthy place to be, because
Speaker 1: what you don't want to be as a young man
Speaker 1: who has all answers, right, I was, That's who I
Speaker 1: was at times, and that didn't serve me well because
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to listen to other people around me
Speaker 1: or listen to someone with a with a fresher perspective,
Speaker 1: different perspective, and you're kind of like, man, okay, move on,
Speaker 1: move on out the way. So that's good. That don't
Speaker 1: take you lacking knowing where to go as a as
Speaker 1: something negative. Take that something good because that means you
Speaker 1: can got time to shape it. Now, Yeah, you've got
Speaker 1: time to shape it, and you may not. I want
Speaker 1: to learn. I think that's important. Is like I want to,
Speaker 1: you know, continue to learn and hear different perspectives and
Speaker 1: figure out you know, And I think great things are
Speaker 1: done in teams. I believe that, you know. I think
Speaker 1: you know. I don't want to do anything alone, not
Speaker 1: because I don't think I can do it, but I
Speaker 1: think there's a better product when you get different perspectives
Speaker 1: and different minds in one room and produce something so
Speaker 1: um still kind of building that team, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, that's good man, well man, We appreciate
Speaker 1: you coming. You are a unique person, you are well
Speaker 1: worth it, you are competent, and most of all, your lovable.
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