1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: What's profoundly sexually frustrated my Ben Shapiro. This is a 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: special book episode. I'm Robert Evans behind the Bastards podcast 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: Worst People tell you all about him. Ben Shapiro was 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: one of our favorite Worst People who was simultaneously far 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: too personally boring to get an episode dedicated to his 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: life and hilarious enough that we we continue to analyze 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: his work. And today I've brought on Sophia Alexandra, one 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: of my favorite guests, to talk about a subject. Sophia, 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: you do a podcast about sex, right You're you're you're 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: something of a sexpert? Would that be sure? Do podcast 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: called Private Parts Unknown about love and sex around the world, 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: And as such, I um would do what I would 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: describe as anti Ben Shapiro wing as I try to 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: make sure people get wet. Sophia, I think that may 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: be unfair, and I think you actually might have a 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: lot to learn from Ben Shapiro, and so as a 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: service to you, as a small brained woman, I'm sure 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: I can as a service to you, I'm gonna play 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: this video of Bin Shapiro explaining the concept of pegging. 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, at least she trust and gay. 21 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: That's pretty exciting and gay we trust is. We had 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: Megan Rapino and then we had Kara di Levine and 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: I maybe screwing up her name, but frankly I don't 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: care because I really don't know very much who she is. 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: Apparently she's some sort of model and here she was 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: modeling a bib slash straight jacket. I don't know what 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: this top is supposed to be. And it says, peg 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: the patriarchy. Oh the courage, Oh the stunning courage and bravery, 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Peg the patriarchy because pegging, of course, is an obscure 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: sexual practice in which women perform the the the more 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: aggressive sexual act on men, Peg the patriarchy, right, which, yeah, 32 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: and if she's pegging the patriarchy by being model for 33 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: the pleasure of men generally speaking, Okay, that's that's enough. 34 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: I just needed the explanation of pegging as a woman 35 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,279 Speaker 1: performing the and then he stutters, like nine times aggressive 36 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: part of sex. But also it's a rare act. It 37 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: tells you a lot about ben because one of the 38 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: things that tells you, like, if you have never pleased 39 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: a sexual partner with a vagina, you might believe that 40 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: you cannot be penetrated and do so aggressively. But you 41 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: can also I don't know who understands less about pegging 42 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: the patriarchy, karadel Avian or Benship. Yeah, mean, like I 43 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: think that's what a ridiculous thing. Dejectively feels good. That's 44 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: why you would do it. And she's like, can we 45 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: It's like, let's blow the patriarchy. I'm like, yeah, I'm 46 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: frustrated by it because there's nothing bad about pegging, and 47 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: that's like the inherent implication of that wonderful unpleasant No, 48 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: it's lovely. Um, but like, yeah, anyway, I just been 49 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: Shapiro's understanding of sex is always just a beautiful thing. 50 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: And Sophia, what if I were to tell you that 51 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: Bennethan Shapiro wrote an entire book about sex? Do you 52 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: mean bent Affer? Yeah? Been benefits been off, Bennet, I 53 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. Whatever. How would you feel 54 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: if I told you that, Sophia? Um, I would laugh 55 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: very hard. And that is why I'm excited to be 56 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: on this. Well, he did. He published the book Porn Generation. 57 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: I believe it was published in two thousand eight, so 58 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: back before you know, anybody knew who been Shapiro, was 59 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: that my porn Generation? Yeah, I almost got that one, 60 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: so Sophia almost. Oh no, the Who? Yeah, wait about 61 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: that's the who? I know about the Who. Tommy was 62 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: the first album I ever bought. We finally found a 63 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: fucking pop culture reference from a millionillion years ago. Tommy 64 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite pieces of music. I mean, 65 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: it's awesome, but who are awesome? It was? It was 66 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: quite an era in which you could have a rock 67 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: opera that included a song about your uncle Ernie molesting you, 68 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: which is a banger, like a very very like morally 69 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: confusing banger because it fettle about an incredible song, The Hatcher, 70 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: The Catcher and the Rye of Songs. Now, Sophia sorry, 71 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: It was two thousand thirteen that he wrote this book, 72 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: still before any reasonable person had ever heard of Ben Shapiro. 73 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: It's called obviously that's the year that orgasms were invented? Correct, 74 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: because none had occurred until Ben Shapiro wrote this book. 75 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: Not in my Shapiro family, for certain. So it's called 76 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: Porn Generation. How social Liberalism is corrupting our future. Um, 77 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: the title is it looks like look up this title 78 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: for me, because I'm trying to figure out what's actually 79 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: going on with the title. It appears to be Um, 80 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: it appears to be the word porn and red with 81 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's a cock ring or just 82 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: a nose ring on the word porn, Like if that's 83 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: the maybe a belly button ring. Um. It's weird that 84 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: it's there's like just a ring on it. Um. Um. 85 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: I think it is so vague because he's just against 86 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: the concept of Pierre things. Yeah. I think it might 87 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: be just like he's like two stars half piercings. Yes, 88 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: it's very funny concern like understand being scared of piercings, 89 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: like don't yeah, yeah, when when a nose piercing meant 90 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: that you were like three seconds away from executing an 91 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: act of sexual terrorism? Um, but not in two thousand thirteen. 92 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: So the cover also has one of those explicit warning 93 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: explicit lyrics sign which I think is ironic. Um. And 94 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: then there's a quote from Ann Coulter on the front. 95 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro's writing a smart, informative, and incisive. He is 96 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: wise behind his ears without losing the refreshing fearlessness of youth. Yes, 97 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: when I think it's been Shapiro, I think fearless. I'm sorry, 98 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: did you say wise beyond his ears? Wise be on 99 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: to his years? Um? He knows that that the act 100 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: of penetration um is fundamentally aggressive. He literally just found 101 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: out women get wet last year. Yeah, well, I don't 102 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: know that he found that. He's a wonder kid because 103 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: as as as I recall, his wife told him that 104 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: a vagina being wet was a sign of infection. She did, 105 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: She said, there's something wrong with these women. For example, 106 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: you know in my life never does and the only 107 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: people I get wet with other people outside of this marriage. 108 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: Can I get an amen? Every time anymously fucking on 109 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: Tinder he talks about sex. He owns himself to a 110 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: degree that I didn't realize was possible. Like you repeatedly 111 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: have give people so much ammunition to dunk on you, 112 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: and not even like it's incredible, it's breathtaking, Like it's 113 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: like you would have to if you were not, if 114 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: you didn't have the natural gifts been Shapiro had, you 115 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: would have to create a like you would have to 116 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: work as a full time job to be owned that hard? 117 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: Did he not get bullied as a kid he's like, 118 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think, oh, but probably still yes, the 119 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: world has bullied Been Shapiro because like, you know, I 120 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: was bullied and you know exactly which ship is going 121 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: to be ammunition. How do you how do you live 122 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: here on God's Green Internet or it or just typing ship? 123 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: Like I don't know how to please women? Like it's incredible, 124 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: It's just crazy, it's just just amazing. Um. So the 125 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: it opens with a dedication. This is written by Ben 126 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: to all members of my generation striving to maintain their dignity, honor, virtue, 127 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: and innocence and a chaotic culture, and to their parents. 128 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: I will remind you, because he talks about maintaining his 129 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: innocence that a little less than a decade before this, 130 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: when he was I think seventeen, Been Shapiro wrote a 131 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: column for a conservative website arguing that there's no such 132 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: thing as civilian casualties in Afghanistan and we shouldn't care 133 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: how many women and children are bombs gil um. Innocence 134 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: pegging is aggressive, but but celebrating the murder of civilians 135 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: by twenty first century weaponry is totally fine. That is 136 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro's ethical stance. Who the funk is the intended audience, 137 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: because he just tried to pretend like I was for 138 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: parents and kids. Well, I guess I think I can 139 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: help you here because chapter one is titled A Generation Lost, 140 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: and it opens up with a quote from John Locke, who, 141 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: as you may know, as a man who never fucked um, 142 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: absolutely did not fuck. The John Lock quote is virtue 143 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: is oh, Hobbs. Hobbs didn't do anything but funck. The 144 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: only reason we have writings from Hobbs is that somebody 145 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: was taking them down while he was in mid bone. 146 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: He just dictated them all. Like David Mill writing Deadwood. 147 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: He occasionally had to take a like a syphilis break, 148 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: and that's when you would knock out some writing, and 149 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: then he would just go right back to fucking. Yeah. Um, 150 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: that's lock could never um. So the Lock quote is 151 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: virtue was harder to be got the knowledge of the world, 152 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: and if lost in a young man is seldom recovered. Um. 153 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: John Locke, he's just being like, don't learn things, just 154 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: stay innocent and hide. That's kind of what that sounds like. 155 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: The nightmare of thinking that you are as a person 156 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: completely static and you cannot change. You should be static 157 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: changing growing. These are all bad things. That is kind 158 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: of the essence of conservatism. And that's why he never 159 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: got hard. He's against growing. No, he is against growing, 160 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: so his dick would not get hard. No, no, no, 161 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: you you celebrate that. So so here's here's how this 162 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: book opens. This has been and I am a member 163 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: of a lost generation. We have lost our values, we 164 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: have lost our faith, and we have lost ourselves as 165 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: societal standards and traditional values have declined, and the crassest 166 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: elements of sexual deviancy and pornography if taken over the 167 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: public square. It is the youngest Americans who have paid 168 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: the price. Never in our country's history has a generation 169 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: been so empowered, so wealthy, so privileged, and yet so empty. 170 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: I want to look up the levels of wealth in 171 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: the millennials, just just just to point out that he's 172 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: comprehensively wrong about everything. Oh do you mean the generation 173 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: that objectively is doing way worse than their parents? Yeah? 174 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: By like, um, so millennials are eighty percent as wealthy 175 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: as their parents were at this age. Uh. And this 176 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: is from Bloomberg. In almost every way measurable. Millennials in 177 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: the US at forty are doing worse financially than the 178 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: generations that came before them. Um, it's it's it's incredible. 179 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: We love millennials own less than five percent of all 180 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: US wealth, and like two percent of that alone is 181 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: Mark Suckerberg. Um. It's just it's hysterical how wrong he is. Um, 182 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: because because he's he's he's an idiot. Um. I'm not 183 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: going to read the rest of the book in my 184 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro voice because people will stop listening, and they 185 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: ought to, but I just kind of felt the need 186 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: to with that. It was if a tool and a 187 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: toad had a gross baby, yeah, somehow sexless. I cannot Yeah, 188 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: if Gilbert Grape and Gilbert Godfrey had a baby and 189 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: then that baby, I don't know. I don't even know, 190 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: Like what could be sad enough to happen to a 191 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: baby to make it Ben Shapiro. I guess that's the 192 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: mystery of Ben Shapiro, is how did someone that's sad 193 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: come about? Um? And I have some information on that answer, 194 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: but but but but I cannot share it. Um. So 195 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: Ben goes on to say, this book is not written 196 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: from the perspective of a parent, a sociologist, or a teacher, 197 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: but of a peer. So there's the answer to your question, Sophia. 198 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: So this is my generation, the poor in generation, and 199 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: for good or ill, we are all America's future. So 200 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: that's very funny. Um. I would pay good fucking money 201 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: for Ben Shapiro's porn history. So if anyone is a 202 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: hacker and has that information allegedly allegedly post it, I 203 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: also just want to go on to note because the 204 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: point here is that Ben Shapiro is comprehensively wrong about everything. 205 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: He's wrong about this being a generation of sexual deviancy. 206 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: Millennials and Generation Z are having less casual sex than 207 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: Generation X or the Baby Boomers, according to a two 208 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: thou eighteen study, actually less sex in general, preod less sex, 209 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: less alcohol consumption, more social media, living for with parents 210 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: for longer. Um. Yeah, that came out into There was 211 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: a study about that in two thousand fourteen. Um, so again, 212 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro. If Ben Shapiro makes a claim, you just 213 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: have to assume the opposite is true. Yep. So Um 214 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: he goes on to blame thats how his wife tries 215 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: to get him to find her clip. So okay, if 216 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: I say left, this motherfucker is going to go right yeah, okay, 217 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: so that's just how I'm going to reverse engineer this 218 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: ship and still still bone dry, bone dry. The last 219 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: time she tried to get him to find her clip, 220 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: he wound up in Haifa. Actually that is why he's 221 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: such a rabid Zionist. It allows him to avoid He thinks, 222 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: it's my man winds up in the dead sea. Um, 223 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: your ms, I am in hi Fa looking for her clip. 224 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: So he blames the deviancy of the current generation, which 225 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: is he's talking about millennials here. It's generation Z wasn't 226 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: really much of a topic of discussion. Um. He blames 227 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: the devancy on moral relativism, radical feminism, and generational nihilism. Um. 228 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: So that's great, umially in your nerd face, you know what. 229 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: He says that, instead of adopting stronger moral standards are 230 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: society has embraced the lure of personal fulfillment. In a 231 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: world where all values are equal, where everything is simply 232 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: a matter of choice, narcissism rules the day. Our culture 233 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: has bred hollow young men obsessed with self gratification. Young 234 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: women are told to act like sex objects and enjoy it. 235 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: The revisionist historians of effectively labeled obscenity as a right 236 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: that the Founding Fathers sought to protect. Society told the 237 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: poor in generation that final moral authority rests inside each 238 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: of us, and in our vanity, we listened. I can't. 239 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to fade into the voice. It just 240 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: how are you act if you're acting like a sexual 241 00:15:53,360 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: object and you're enjoying it? How are you acting that? 242 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: Completely a statement that makes zero sense. Yeah, it's it's 243 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: it's really it's really outstanding. Um, yeah, this is outstanding. 244 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: Are acting like you like gay sex and you're enjoying it? Yeah? 245 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: Hey guess what? Yeah, I got used for you. Alright, 246 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: we're all invited too this year's Pride parade. Okay, that 247 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: is all. Before we move into ads, I want to 248 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: note one other thing Ben got wrong, Because you could argue, 249 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: we already pointed out this millennials and generations he have 250 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: less sex with fewer partners than the generations before them, 251 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: so they are objectively less slutty. Um, but you might argue, well, 252 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: but Ben is also saying that porn is the problem, 253 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: so maybe he maybe his argument is right, And because 254 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: of all the poinn we're consuming, we're fucking less, which 255 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: isn't the argument Ben is making. He's comprehensively wrong. But 256 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: I want to note that there. I want to just 257 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: read a quote from Vice about the the argument that 258 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: like hass porn, why millennials are fucking less. Unfortunately, there's 259 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: one problem with this explanation. It's completely wrong. In a 260 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: study published earlier this year in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, 261 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: researchers analyzed a quarter centuries worth of data from the 262 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: General Social Survey, a nationally representative US survey conducted most 263 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: years that inquires about American sex lives, among other things, 264 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: since nineteen nine, Participants have been asked two key questions, 265 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: whether they have seen a pornographic movie in the last year, 266 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: and how often they were having sex during the same 267 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: time period. This allowed researchers to see whether these two 268 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: things were related. It turns out that Americans across the board, 269 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: not just millennials, were having less sex today than they 270 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: were in the past. However, millennials were doing it less 271 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: than everyone else, and while this decline in sexual activity 272 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: was linked to porn use, the results probably weren't what 273 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: you were expecting. Specifically, rather than being linked to less sex, watching, 274 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: porn was actually linked to having more sex. In other words, 275 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: though porn might seem like the logical target to blame 276 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to why millennials and everyone else are 277 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: getting laid less offense, it's not the right one. So 278 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: if it's not porn, then what else might be going on? 279 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: Another common sense explanation is that it's due to changes 280 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: in work life balance. Working more should translate to alex 281 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: active sex life. However, the news Archived study also discounts 282 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: this possibility, finding that unexpectedly working longer hours like watching porn, 283 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: was linked to more sex. Instead. What we're seeing here 284 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: has likely to do with changing marriage patterns. Studies have 285 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: pretty consistently found that married people have to tend to 286 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: have more sex than single people. However, given that millennials 287 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: are waiting longer and longer to get married, the average 288 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: age of a first marriage is now closer to thirty, 289 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: perhaps that's part of the reason why they're less sexually active. So, 290 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: in other words, millennials are fucking less because they're doing 291 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: the thing that Ben Shapiro says they should be doing, 292 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: which is waiting longer to have sex and having fewer 293 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: sexual partners. Like Again, like these people's understanding of everything 294 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: that's actually happening in society is completely off. Like it's 295 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: the same way that people who are against abortion are 296 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: also suppers control and you're like, okay, well are you 297 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: gonna shoot all the babies? Like I don't understand, or 298 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: the pregnant the pregnant women, you're killing the pregnant women. 299 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: Got it. Yeah, It's just there's a lot of reasons. 300 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: And it's not just like people are waiting longer for 301 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: marriage people. There's a number of reasons. Some people like 302 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: suspect that like antidepressant medication has an impact on it um, 303 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: but like as a general rule, like comprehensively, the argument 304 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: that like this generation is somehow like more sexually depraved 305 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: and active than before isn't the case. And the most 306 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: you can say is that now people are talking a 307 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: little bit more about some of the weird sex stuff 308 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: that they've always done. But like, I have a theory 309 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: too as to why I think that millennials are fucking less. 310 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: It's because of like the rampant insecurity and like being alive, 311 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: because most people don't have a safety net. There's been 312 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: a housing collapse, there's been a pandemic. I mean, there's 313 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: been nothing since fucked up ship since nine eleven. Uh 314 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: was something that kids could remember and depressed. Yeah, so 315 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, sorry, Like if people don't fuck 316 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: as much because they're like I don't have healthcare and 317 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: I am housing and secure, good news been the world 318 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: that you've enthusiastically tried to build has made people so 319 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: miserable that they're fucking less. Yeah. Yeah, that's a pretty 320 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: simple explanation. And my confirmation for that is like vacation syndrome. 321 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: You know, when you go on vacation. Suddenly you're like, 322 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm like so fun and interesting and 323 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: I do cool ship and I funk all the time here, 324 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: and then you're like, oh, what's different? Oh? Is that 325 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: that I'm feel not shackled to the capitalist, fucking like 326 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: chains of my work week and the ways in which 327 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: the place I live has ailed me? Oh? Oh that 328 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: must be it. Okay, that's what makes you horny? Great? 329 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: You know what makes me horny, Sophia, goods and services, 330 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: specifically the products and services that support this podcast. Nothing 331 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: else gets me hard. But what is it? Is it? 332 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: Exon mobile today, Sophie, I certainly hope not. Ah, Just 333 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: if you want, if you want to get combination gun 334 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: fentin al store. Well, now that that would get me 335 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: pretty hard. Well, let's keep our fingers crossed. Speaking Robert's 336 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: language there, I mean, I do prefer to lauded, but 337 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: either way product Ah, we're back and we're talking about 338 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro's book on sex. So this first little bit 339 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: ends with the paragraph the porn generation now inhabits a 340 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: world where empowered means sex with no strings attached. The 341 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: old faith and traditional morality was too bourgeoisie, archaic, sexist, 342 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: and closed minded for this brave new world. Our new 343 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: God is tolerance of all behavior. Our new credo live 344 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: and let live imagine thinking like live and let live 345 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: is a bad yeah, or it is like negative and 346 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: again just he's comprehensively wrong about every single factual claim 347 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: he makes. Um like the Beatles wrote a literal fucking 348 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: jam about it years ago, a real banger of a song. 349 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: You really think that that ship is new? And also 350 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: he's like, you know what sucks freedom, the exact freedom 351 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: that I think, Wait a minute, I've talked myself into 352 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: a corner. I guess I love freedom, but I also 353 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: hate it. So the next chapter or not chapter section 354 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: of the book starts with as children, members of the 355 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: porn generation are presented with morally subversive sexual education programs 356 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: that increasingly younger ages. Nine year olds are lectured about 357 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: condom the use, twelve year olds are pushed to make 358 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: decisions about their sexual orientation. Fifteen year olds are expected 359 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: to have said goodbye to virginity. And again, I guess 360 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: it is it is probably true that kids are getting 361 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: better sex, said younger. Maybe that's part of why they're 362 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: having less casual sex, is they're getting more sex, said 363 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: and learning about std S. I don't know. I doubt 364 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: it has an impact on that, but whatever the case, 365 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: it's certainly not making them funck more, because as is stated, 366 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: they're fucking less. I mean, and also, like, I just 367 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: have to be honest that I do remember when I 368 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: turned twelve that somebody did come up to me and 369 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: put a gun to my head and asked me to choose, 370 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: uh my sexual orientation. And I panicked, you know, so 371 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: I said, by and you know, now I'm obligated to 372 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: like both men and women and you know, and just 373 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: all all gender spectrums. Because they put that gun to 374 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: my head, they made me decide at twelve they pushed me. 375 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: And and that's that's how it is for all of 376 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: us who are bisexual. I was forced, at gunpoint at 377 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: age twelve to watch mos def and the Hitchhiker's Guide 378 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: movie and and and violently told to be aroused by it. 379 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: And there's there's just you know, it did incalculable damage. Yes, yes, yes, 380 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: um getting wet too, wild things, I would have to say, 381 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: as they're getting wet in the pool. Yeah yeah, I 382 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: that's traumatic because I literally was being you know, tied 383 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: to a chair and forced to watch that and masterbait 384 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: and I I as a result of this childhood trauma, 385 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: I can't watch Pedro Pascal in a movie without needing 386 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: to turn the air conditioning on. So specific I am 387 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: with you. I am in this. Literally, who isn't You 388 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: don't even have to be by to be into Pedro Pascal? Okay? 389 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: So um, all right, so been here, Okay, here's been 390 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: dropping a fact. I'm interested in this? So um? Oh 391 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: actually okay. And college drug use, alcohol use, and sexual experimentation, 392 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: or the norm, as one Harvard girl told me, we're 393 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: jaded and it's fun fun to this girl meant trips 394 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: to Amsterdam to smoke different types of marijuana. To others, 395 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: fun means binge drinking or random sex. This fucking nerd 396 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: ever invited you to a fucking party does not mean 397 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: you have to be such a sour little dick about everything. 398 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: And also, let's let's be frank here. If you've ever 399 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: been to California where Ben lives, Amsterdam wheat is weak ship. 400 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: It is, it just is. It's way worse than fucking 401 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: cal I was impressed by Amsterdam pot when I went 402 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: there from Texas, but my god, the West anyway, whatever, 403 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: Ben is comprehensively wrong again. All right, here's a Guardian article. 404 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: They drink less, take far fewer drugs, and have made 405 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: teenage pregnancy a near anomaly. Generation Z, one of several 406 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: terms used to describe the post millennial youthborn after nine, 407 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: preferred juice bars to pub crawls, rank quality family time 408 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: ahead of sex, and prioritize good grades before friendship, at least, 409 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: according to a report published by the British Pregnancy Advisory 410 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: Service last week and their studies in the US that 411 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: find again most like millennials and Generation Z are drinking 412 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: less than previous generations, using less illicit drugs. The exception 413 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: is fucking pain killers, because again, pain killers like numb 414 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: emotional pain. So the fucking problem here, like Ben's focusing on, 415 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: like they're having sex, they're smoking marijuana. No, Ben, they're 416 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: addicted to fucking pain killers. Um, but that's the thing. 417 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: They're actually doing more. And they're not doing it more 418 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: because we've we've made it okay to be degenerate. They're 419 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: doing it more because pain killers are widely available and 420 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: make lifeless miserable. And people who have spent a lot 421 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: of time donating money to you are the same motherfucker's 422 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: who were pushing those pain killers for fucking decades. Yeah, 423 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: it's it's cool. Um, yeah, okay, And so he goes 424 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: on to cite a study from Details magazine and Random 425 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 1: House that's a survey of college students had a one 426 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: night stand for to cheated on a steady partner, to 427 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: try to get someone drunk or high, to get them 428 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: in bed, had slept with someone knowing they would never 429 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: call again. Um. Oh so this is fun. So he 430 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: he cites this stuff, and he says nothing about previous generations. 431 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: So again he's just talking about like how many millennials 432 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: have had one night stands as opposed to being like, 433 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: how does this compared to previous generations? Is this happening 434 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: more often or less often? And the reason he doesn't 435 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: actually do that comparatively is because they're they're doing it 436 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: less often. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, so he's just citing 437 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: statistics about a single generation, uh, completely separate from like 438 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: actually analyzing them with any historical context, which is, so, 439 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: let people have a one night stand if they have 440 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: one and they realize that that person isn't for them, Uh, 441 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: and that's it. That's better than fucking getting married to 442 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: some woman you stocked when you were you know, in 443 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: the fifties until she fucking forcibly agreed to marry you 444 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: because she just got tired, and like, then you're in 445 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: a relationship with her forever and neither of you are 446 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: in love and she puts her head in the oven 447 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: and your kids don't know what love is. So why 448 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: don't you just let people have one night's stance? How 449 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: about that? Because Ben is an incredible journalist, he goes 450 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: from citing this one study without any sort of context 451 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: as as to how any of these things have changed 452 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: over time, and then he provides us with a case 453 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: study of a young woman whose college experience, uh he says, 454 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 1: is emblematic of of young women these days. That young 455 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: woman isn't real. The case study he cites is Charlotte Simmons, 456 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: who is a character in a Tom Wolfe novel. Um 457 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: Ben says that her story carries enormous way. Let me 458 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: present my factual uh study. The case is one of 459 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 1: them boy called Harry Potter. Um, can you stop laughing? 460 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: Because he is a proof that millennials are into witchcraft. 461 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: Witchcraft is not funny, Okay, based on the case study 462 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: of Harry Potter, it's incredible because also he's being like, 463 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: this story carries weight because it's so true and like, okay, 464 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: So your case study of how millennial women are behaving 465 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: is a book by baby boomer author Tom Wolfe in 466 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: two thousand four. Hey Ben, a couple of notes, What 467 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: is wrong with you? Some good fucking work. Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah, 468 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: he goes on. Wow, this goes on for like a 469 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: page and a half. Um, there are thousands of Charlotte 470 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: Simmons is in the porn generation. When you're surrounded by 471 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 1: couragement leading you to subjective morality, sexuality, and hedonism. When 472 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: you can't retreat to a safe haven. It's simply easier 473 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: to capitulate than to fight. Ha ha ha been yeah, 474 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: Um okay, so let's uh, let's let's let's see what 475 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: else this book has in it. What his wife does, 476 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: tries to have sex with her? Yeah, I mean it 477 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: capitulates a strong word. Just come on my stomach. Just 478 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: fucking just fine. That's what every woman loves. Been just 479 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: I'll read the World Street Journal. Just fucking do it. 480 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: M No, we have to take a two week break 481 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: because of how how dry it was. We both got 482 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: carpet burn um. Chapter two was titled fun with Bananas, 483 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: and it opens with a quote by Dr Laura Schleschinger. 484 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: Oh god, why yeah, Well, because he's been Shapiro here's 485 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of how do you say, actual 486 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: sources in a conservative community. No, and again you've seen 487 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: his source. One of his major sources in chapter one 488 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: is a fictional book about a fictional girl. Um, it's 489 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: it's rad's mad because you were invited to her birthday party. 490 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: Ben was never invited to a birthday party. In public 491 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: school systems across the country, they're indoctrinating kids to be 492 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: sexual under the guise of protecting them when you know 493 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: that's not true. I think it is indoctrination for left 494 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: wing agendas. Great, Um, here's how it opens. The chapter 495 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: opens this has been now. I was nine years old 496 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: in fourth grade, says Katie acute, twenty two year old 497 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: suburban girl from the Northeast. She's a brilliant Harvard law 498 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: student and a relatively happy person. At her upper middle 499 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: class elementary school, she had her first brush with sex, 500 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: said porn Generation style. One day, they told us they 501 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: were going to teach us about family life. They didn't 502 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: separate us or anything. They said that people could engage 503 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: in oral, anal, and regular their sex, but didn't explain 504 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: what the terms meant. I can't remember any moral judgments 505 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: being made. They give us booklets with line drawings of 506 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: what happens is puberty progresses. They also told us that 507 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: sex can get you pregnant, that it can give you diseases. 508 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: There was a lot of focus on HIV. They said 509 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: the only way to be safe was abstinence. Then they 510 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: send all the girls to the nurse who told us 511 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 1: that if we bled, we weren't dying, and ended out 512 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: naxipads and Tampa. That's I wouldn't. I don't think that's 513 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: perfectly reasonable. I actually think it's too much of a 514 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: focus on abstinence. But like that's very conservative. That's extremely 515 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: conservative sex set. Like, I mean, it's just a bunch 516 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: of it as facts. All of this is basically factual 517 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: what the issue is. Again, I think an unreasonable focus 518 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: on abstinence, but that's not technically incorrect. Yeah, I mean 519 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: it is the only way not to get pregnant. Yeah, 520 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a wise focus. But nothing from 521 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: studies that abstinence only education does not work. But all 522 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: the other things were just facts to a conservative that 523 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: should be pretty inoffensive. Sex said, but obviously, and again 524 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: I like that he focused on like they didn't separate 525 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: the boys and the girls, which they did in my 526 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: sex said, by the way, and my sex said was 527 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: fucking useless anyway. Of course, he had to mention she's cute. 528 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: They're like, she's she's good looking, and this is important 529 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: because only good looking people agree with me. A total troll. 530 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: I do love that it's both like Ben Shapiro, our 531 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: generation is too obsessed with sex, also been Shapiro. People 532 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: need to know if I thought this source was hot. 533 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: That's good journalism, fucking tool. It's incredible that he's supposedly 534 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: is bringing as an example of Oh, she doesn't like 535 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: how sexualized the education was, and then he immediately sexualized 536 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: being like, she's cute as an actual journalist who's written 537 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: for actual publications not owned by friends of my father. Um, 538 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: I want to note that student Katie doesn't like. The 539 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: most common piece of editorial advice or editorial question you 540 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: get just like, but was this source hot? How would 541 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: you rank them? Usually in just parentheses you write like 542 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: a number, you know, just like between a one and 543 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: a ten, because people need to know. Notes. When I've 544 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: looked at your journalistic efforts, I always just redline everything 545 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: and I say hot or not. In the Martins, Yeah, 546 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: as I talked to the mother of the dead boy, 547 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: she's a solid seven. The child regrettably was a three 548 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: r I p uh god. So um, here's how this continues. 549 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: Katie's parents were given the option to opt out of 550 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: this explicit instruction for their nine year old, but they didn't. 551 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: In fact, no one opted out in fourth grade and 552 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: only one person opted out in the following year. Yars 553 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: of Sex said According to Katie, she got sex said 554 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: nine times over every year from fourth to twelfth grade. 555 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: The classes were co ed all the way through. In 556 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: seventh grade, there were showing condoms. We made balloons out 557 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: of them. They had a goody box full of birth 558 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: control implements, condoms, diaphragms. Man, my school had none of that, 559 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: and we had a bunch of teen pregnancies in seventh grade. 560 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: Someone said that their friends in eighth grade were already 561 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: having sex, but that wasn't common. If I had to guess, 562 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: I'd say that by the end of high school, about 563 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: fifteen percent of the kids in the class were having sex, 564 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: and they were all the popular kids. But I was 565 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: in the advanced class where no one was really doing anything. 566 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: Sounds pretty low. Actually, it sounds like maybe all that 567 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: sex said lead to kids being less sexually active than 568 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, your parents generation were been helloo. But also, 569 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: where's that fifteen percent coming? She doesn't know? No, Like, 570 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: it's just Katie. She's some who fox in her grade. 571 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: She's someone been Shapiro likes. So no one who has 572 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: ever had sex is willing to talk to her. He 573 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: also clearly made her up fuckable. College also she does 574 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: not exist. Also fits it's a fake person. Yeah no, wait, 575 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: even come up with any details that would make it 576 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: seem like she was real. Oh, actually, never mind, this 577 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: takes a turn. We may have been unfair to Katie, 578 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: although I still have questions. Katie believes that sex said 579 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: is a good thing for kids to hear. The disease 580 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: and pregnancy stuff was good because it scared people off. 581 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: They realized there were consequences to sex. There should be 582 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: education about it so that there are less half truths 583 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: and complete lives floating around, and people can make an 584 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: informed decision because sooner or later they will do it. 585 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: This is italicized by Ben because I don't think she's 586 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 1: spoken italics. And the more info they have, the better 587 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: they are equipped to determine when they will do it. 588 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: She also believes that parental inactivity makes taxpayer funded sex 589 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: education more vital, citing her own parents as an example. 590 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: My parents wouldn't have talked to me about this if 591 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: I hadn't had sex in in school. By now at 592 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: our house, if they start something, it's like, chill, I'm 593 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: not fifteen anymore. Katie isn't a virgin. This has been 594 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: now and she isn't ashamed of it. She became sexually 595 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: active at age nineteen and has had three sexual partners. 596 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with premarital sex, she tells me. I 597 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: got over that idea. I feel I can make rational 598 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: decisions armed with what I learned in nine years of 599 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: the same class. Repeating sex is appropriate when the person 600 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: is mentally ready to have sex, and with it's not 601 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: a result of the pressure to fit in, and when 602 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: she's mature enough to not have any regrets. Still, Katie 603 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: doesn't want her parents to know more about her sexual 604 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: history because they still think it's wrong, and I don't 605 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: want to open that can of worms. For that reason, 606 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: her name has been changed to protect her privacy. Katie 607 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: isn't above average girl and would be considered in this 608 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 1: day and age as sexually well adjusted citizen. Her views 609 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: on sex education and section general are shared by many 610 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: of her peers. Premarital sex isn't seen as wrong as 611 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: long as you're ready for it, and sex education is 612 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: supposed to prepare you for it. With this kind of logic, 613 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: it's not hard to see why kids are being sexualized 614 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: at younger and younger ages. The younger the kids are 615 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: when sex, said against the more they know at a 616 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: younger age. The more they know, the more prepared they are. 617 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: The more prepared they are, the more societal approval they 618 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: were received when they try to have sex, and societal 619 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: approval means societal encouragement. She didn't have sex until she 620 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: was nineteen. That's not early been, it's it's a perfectly 621 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: reasonable age to lose your virginia. He's making the opposite 622 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: point the entire time. She's very reasonable. Everything she's saying 623 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: is true and fine. It sounds like she's happy and 624 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: didn't have sex before, she was ready for everything. Fine, 625 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: then she went to Harvard. She's brilliant, she's clearly doing lunch. 626 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: And then at the very end he's like, but tragically 627 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: Katie died, Like what do you what's left? Turn? And 628 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: he's literally say, because of all the sex said Katie received, 629 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: She waited until she was nineteen and had sex responsibly 630 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: and is a happy, successful young person, So we shouldn't 631 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: get get a sex said, because they fuck younger, like 632 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,479 Speaker 1: we might wind up like Katie in Harvard, she said, 633 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: I took sex, said for nine years, and now I 634 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: am in Harvard, and I have made responsible and happy 635 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: choices about my sex life. And he's like, I'm going 636 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: to write a book so people can know the horror 637 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: of what you've gone through, Katie. Yeah, it's it's fucking incredible. Um. 638 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: He goes on to say the truth is that knowledge 639 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: and information aren't cure alls. In fact, they can do 640 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: serious damage to children. Wow, that is conservatism in a nutshell. 641 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: Knowledge and information are dangerous for children. Don't give them that, 642 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: Like does he not even remember the more you know? 643 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: Like NBC, God, it's like not even controversial to think 644 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: that knowing more things is good. So fucking tool back, 645 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: He's such a tool And I do I think we 646 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: should apologize to Katie the fact that he the way 647 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: he was leading this was I expected her to be 648 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: like my generation wound up, sucked up because of all this. Like, No, 649 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: she's seems like a very healthy person. Katie is great, 650 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: and she she seems radly agreed to talk to Ben 651 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: Shapiro because she's like, this loser needs to fucking talk 652 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: to a woman. Yeah, maybe this will help him be 653 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 1: less miserable. Coulter. You know, it's very funny. Also, like 654 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: the fact that she's had three sexual partners, been clearly 655 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: considered scandalous, even though she's probably in her early twenties. Um, 656 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 1: it's a pretty normal number. Um, even maybe good. Yeah, 657 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Oh god? Um? You know who 658 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: else fucks constantly? And I just mean knee deep in 659 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: steaming genitalia. Oh I know the answer to this. The 660 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: purchasers of the upcoming goods and services. Well, yeah, the 661 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: them and the ads just constantly fucking, both our advertisers 662 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: and the people who buy it from them, boning NonStop. 663 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: The whole sea of jism one whole, two, whole, three, whole, four, 664 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: whole get it. Yeah, there's no such thing as too 665 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 1: many holes when you're listening to these ads. Ah, we're back. 666 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: It is incredible how barely we have scratched the surface 667 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: of the wrongness of this book, because all of it 668 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: is just profoundly fucking wrong. Um. So Ben Shapiro has 669 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: just dropped the visis statement of American conservatism, which is 670 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: that knowledge and information are dangerous to children. Um. What 671 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: supporters of the full frontal version of sex said don't 672 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: understand is that knowledge is power, and only when the 673 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: person armed with the knowledge is capable of making a 674 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 1: fully rational and informed decision. Wait, what knowledge is power 675 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: only when the person armed with the knowledge is capable 676 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: of making a fully rash and informed decision. What helps 677 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: people make rational informed decisions? Been? Is it knowledge? Children 678 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: are not capable of such a rational decision. I guess 679 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: you could say Katie didn't fun till she was nineteen. 680 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: So what are you talking about? The Clearly children are 681 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: capable of understanding a lot. It sounds like she waited 682 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: until she was an adult. Um and and ready, Uh, 683 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: it's just everything. Ben says, it's wrong, it's incredible. Um 684 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: ka heim Nowitz, author of Ready or Not What Happens 685 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: when we treat children as small adults, argues that anti culturalists, 686 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: people who believe that childhood sexuality left on its own, 687 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 1: free of social interference, will flourish and grow in healthy ways, 688 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: have overestimated the choosing power of children trained of all 689 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: feeling but physical pleasure rationalized into fine power of children. Yeah, 690 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: it's just book from J. K. Rowling that teaches you 691 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: that it's not okay to be you. It's not okay 692 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: to be you. Knowledge is bad. Children can't be trusted 693 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: with knowledge because they're not rational, and they can't be 694 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: rational until they're informed, but don't inform them of things. UM. 695 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: It's awesome. Um, it's just awesome in its wrongness. And 696 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: I wish, you know, we I was kind of thinking 697 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: this would be a one off and we would just 698 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: get through this everything. It's so fascinatingly wrong, Sophia and 699 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: so many it's too insane. There's no way, there's no 700 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 1: way this is a one partner. No, no, we have 701 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: to continue this for today. I want to just give 702 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: everyone an overview of the rest of this book. So 703 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: Chapter three Campus Carnality, Loser. What a fucking loser? College 704 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: life for the porn generation is the social liberals dream? Incredible? 705 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: That's the opening sentences inte Ben to a party, So 706 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: you can stop being such a fucking toolbag. Chapter four 707 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: Pop Tarts that you're wondering what that is a reference to. 708 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: It starts with official recipe for pop stardom. Start with 709 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: a cute pubescent tend to twelve year old girl again 710 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: creepy time to include cute. Next step two to three 711 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: years virginal, wholesome, faux innocent play acting Disney Channel brand 712 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 1: highly recommended. Two years ambiguous, semi pedophilic, convorting, two years 713 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 1: sexual discovery, dirty dancing, ex rated lyrics, and or promiscuity 714 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: for extra sales. Just at a smattering of bisexuality. Voila, 715 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: you've transformed yourself into a platinum record artist. Keep it 716 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: up for twenty years and you might even win a 717 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: Madonna Award for profit driven slettiness. Jesus Christ, I like 718 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: that adding bisexuality increases your market value, because I have 719 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: not found that that's worked out for me. Robert um 720 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: that increased your market value? Let me know. Yeah, no, no, 721 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it has. As chapter five where pimps 722 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: and hose run free, I'm sure this is going to 723 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 1: be the one where he talks about hip hop. I 724 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: was gonna say this is fucking definitely throwing rocks at wrap. Yeah, 725 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: oh god yeah. Chapter six teeny boppers. Okay your seven. 726 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: Didn't you already talk about the pre professing girls? That 727 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: was pop stars? I think Chapter seven aber Crappie and Bitch. 728 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: It opens with him yelling about Janet Jackson at the 729 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Grade Chapter eight TV versus Virginity, Chapter nine 730 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: Porn and Pop Joe versus the Volgano. Yeah, I think 731 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: it is exactly. It's actually just word for word the 732 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: script of that of that actually pretty good and kind 733 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: of anti capitalist film. Chapter ten, The Lotion Picture Industry, 734 00:45:54,760 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: God damn it. Chapter eleven Taking a stand, Oh god oh. 735 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 1: Chapter twelve is a roundtable discussion with Michelle, Malcolm, Rod Drere, 736 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:16,760 Speaker 1: and father John C. McCluskey from Opus Day. I don't know, wow, wow, Oh, Sophia. 737 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna have fun with this in the months to come. 738 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: I can tell you that right now, what a delicious 739 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 1: turn of events. Speaking of coming, you know what Ben 740 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: Shapiro has never done in his life? Please a woman? Yeah? Yeah? 741 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 1: Anybody really, Um, anybody, Sofia, This is all the time 742 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: we have for today. Um, you wanna, you wanna, you wanna, 743 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, do your plugs with stuff. With the plugs 744 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 1: and the things. You can find me on Twitter and 745 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 1: Instagram at the Sophia so f I y A. And 746 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: you can listen to my podcast about love and sex 747 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: called Private Parts Unknown, where it's hosted by me and 748 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: Pertney Kosak and we definitely fuck. And then the other 749 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: podcast I co host is with Miles Gray and it's 750 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: called where We Get high and talk about It's real fun. Well, um, 751 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: check that out. I am returning Ben Shapiro's book Porn 752 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: Generation for offensive content until next time. Um Sophia, thank 753 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: you for this and thank you all for listening. Until 754 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: next time. Remember, don't ever fuck, and knowledge is deadly. 755 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what your books, burn your books. Christ