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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is ready for Hollywood Baby,

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Park, Oh a little different. Welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan

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Speaker 1: Hansis come to you from a virtual room build with

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Speaker 1: a couple of heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. We just

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Speaker 1: had back together Saturday over on NFL Network. We weren't

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Speaker 1: we're we never left. We've been back together for about

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Speaker 1: nine straight years, so while everyone else was hugging and

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Speaker 1: making pleasantries after long vacations to the South of France

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Speaker 1: and the like, we've been together, joined at the hip

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Speaker 1: forever and ever virtually we um we are. I think

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Speaker 1: looking forward to being back together in a studio though.

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Speaker 1: I think at least I've reached that point I don't

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Speaker 1: want to see you guys. I think I've done an

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Speaker 1: off stuff from home. I feel like I'm ready to

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Speaker 1: re enter Hollywood Park. We don't know if we're going

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Speaker 1: to be there for week one, but that is our hope.

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Speaker 1: That is our hope. I would say I would be

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Speaker 1: ready to be back in a studio setting with you guys. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: It's the you know, pepping your step walking around the

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Speaker 1: I know that I can see Greg's intense zeal to

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Speaker 1: just gonna I'm gonna reiterate. I don't find authentic or

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Speaker 1: pleasant for me of the group, but then you definitely

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Speaker 1: are dan Is. I feel like if anyone I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I am not a smoozer, I'm not a smoozer. I

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Speaker 1: do feel like though we are in different wavelengths like

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Speaker 1: back together Saturday would have been great to be asked

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Speaker 1: It was very cool. They were in thirty two teams

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Speaker 1: inside Training Camp Live. It's there that said, um, I

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Speaker 1: didn't mind that. The second we were done with our

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Speaker 1: weekend starts now. I went to the beach on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I bought a tortoise this weekend. While everyone is, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was fine with that. If they don't want us

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Speaker 1: But I will say our producer Ricky Hollywood did an

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Speaker 1: incredible um Instagram live on NFL up and I actually

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Speaker 1: I wasn't invited to this weekend by NFL media, Ricky

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Speaker 1: and Ricky. By the way, as we bring her into

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Speaker 1: the conversation, she has a new and it looks very expensive.

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Speaker 1: She has a brand, brand new signage behind her, right

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Speaker 1: over her back, and you would think, oh, she is

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Speaker 1: it's a really good position. It's set her up well

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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. She must have it around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast sign behind her. No, it's her vanity podcast,

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Speaker 1: the broadcast podcast that's on my radar too little on

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Speaker 1: this Monday. Yeah, you are to make sure you check

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Speaker 1: it out, you guys. The Broadcast podcast available wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcast. No, it was cool. I did like

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Speaker 1: over the place. But um, David blow you know the

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Speaker 1: had so much going on, I truthfully wasn't paying attention,

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Speaker 1: blowhards developing news. Yeah. Absolutely, I thought I handled it

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Speaker 1: So Melissa Gunzalez his high school sweetheart who qualified in

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Speaker 1: broadcast podcast j r VP. That podcast comes up a

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Speaker 1: Is that working like this is that form of revenge

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Speaker 1: like inflicting you or hurting you or doesn't at all?

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Speaker 1: check out the sounds like excused to stop listening. We

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Speaker 1: don't need um. Indeed, all right, big show coming up,

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Speaker 1: Training camp full swing everyone underway this weekend and now

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Speaker 1: this week we're starting with the pads are on and

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Speaker 1: And what better way to dig in to training camps?

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Speaker 1: True beginning then with another edition of Training Camp Spas.

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Speaker 1: But before that, let's do some news. So we wanted

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Speaker 1: to present your NFL network best Hair. That's right, you

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Speaker 1: got yours. Look at that. I tell you what, ma,

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Speaker 1: you're the best. You're the best thing. So now we're

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Speaker 1: giving out trophies for best hair um at nflux. So

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Speaker 1: having the best hair at NFL Media. And first of all,

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Speaker 1: That's I knew this would be on your radar. I

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Speaker 1: And if it was best facial hair, you clearly would

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Speaker 1: NFL podcast. And here's the thing. G MFB did some

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Speaker 1: were mine or marks? So what are you saying, Dan, Well,

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Speaker 1: I let me tell you that within a thousand meters

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Speaker 1: of that, let me tell you go to the mentions,

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Speaker 1: and see what's in the mentions. What the fans think?

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Speaker 1: Who the who? The fan champ is the people's champ,

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Speaker 1: It's people's champ. You're the people's champ. Is the old Juser,

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Speaker 1: You know who we think has the best hair? Dan?

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Speaker 1: you you know me very well, Mark, and you nailed

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Speaker 1: that all exactly dead on Sizzler. Let's get into the news. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: of analytics in the front office is like it's sort

428
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Speaker 1: of a happy medium. Of course, great running backs are

429
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Speaker 1: worth money, um, but maybe just not Zekiel Elliott money.

430
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Speaker 1: So you know, it's almost a reward to the guy

431
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: that is just the grinder that does his does his

432
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Speaker 1: work behind the scenes, delivers on the field, doesn't give

433
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Speaker 1: any anybody any trouble, doesn't go to Cabbo and alert

434
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Speaker 1: the media about a contract holdout, And I just like,

435
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Speaker 1: good job, Mark. The Browns rewarded a guy that deserved

436
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: like Levyan Bell would have never taken this contract. Zeki

437
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Speaker 1: Elliott would have never taken this contract. They would have

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Speaker 1: They would have probably played out the final year of

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Speaker 1: their rookie deal and and made some made some noise. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: In other news, Seattle Seahawks Jamal Adams he wants to

441
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Speaker 1: be the highest paid safety in NFL history. He's been

442
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Speaker 1: wanting that for a long time, dating back to his

443
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: jet stays when he forced to trade out of New York.

444
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Speaker 1: Now he's in Seattle, about to enter his second season

445
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Speaker 1: after a strong debut, but he's not practicing yet. He's

446
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: missing um practices with his team, although he's at the facility. Uh,

447
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 1: he's staging essentially a sit in hold in as they

448
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Speaker 1: call it, because he waits to get the contract so

449
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: he'll be happy with his team. Again. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I I the minute I saw this, I was like,

451
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: Dan is just he is doing a jig around his

452
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Speaker 1: home because it's so predictable. You have to say that

453
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Speaker 1: it is so predictable. And it's almost like the Jets

454
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: were ensnared in this um you know, call it a

455
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Speaker 1: naughty k n O T T y issue with Jamal

456
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Speaker 1: Adams and they just handed their way to Seattle and

457
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Speaker 1: now Seattle's dealing with it. And Pete Carroll called the

458
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Speaker 1: talks amicable and the suggestion is it probably will get

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Speaker 1: worked out. But I would just say, like, who wants

460
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Speaker 1: to be the team that's gearing up to like to

461
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Speaker 1: pay the most expensive safety. It just doesn't feel like

462
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Speaker 1: the thing everyone's galvanized to do, especially in the box safety.

463
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, that isn't known. You know that if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna pay someone, the ghost of Earl Thomas would

465
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Speaker 1: be the guy who, By the way, I think stage

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Speaker 1: the first ever holding. I need to copyright that. I

467
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Speaker 1: think I came up with the holding. It's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram did it last year. I remember he was

469
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Speaker 1: just hanging out for a couple of weeks. The fact

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Speaker 1: that there don't seem to be sweating it suggests to

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Speaker 1: me it's probably a deal is probably coming. Dwayne Brown

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Speaker 1: also maybe doing a holding in Seattle. It's a little

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Speaker 1: unclear if it's injury related, but he definitely wants a

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Speaker 1: new contract and he's definitely not practicing, and that seems

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Speaker 1: also so they might have dueling holdings right now, and

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Speaker 1: relax Seahawks fans. I'm not really, I'm not like, I'm

477
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Speaker 1: not truly doing a jig because I agree with what

478
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Speaker 1: Greg saying. Deal is probably gonna get done. But I

479
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: will say this from experience, be very careful. This is

480
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: a temperamental personality you're dealing with here, and if your

481
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Speaker 1: contract hits a snag and you bad blood starts to build.

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Speaker 1: He is not someone that ever holds his tongue and

483
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Speaker 1: it can cause issues, as we know. So I'm all

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Speaker 1: for Jamal Adams getting the money's worth. I know that

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Speaker 1: he's a box safety, but he's also something that he

486
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Speaker 1: offers something that really no one ever has done in

487
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Speaker 1: his position at this level, which is his past rushing ability,

488
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Speaker 1: his ability to sack the quarterback which has huge value

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Speaker 1: as well. So I think he should get the contract

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Speaker 1: I just under Also from a bigger picture with the Seahawks,

491
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Speaker 1: this is such an important season in their trajectory, like

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Speaker 1: going forward. We know all the Russell Wilson drama from

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Speaker 1: earlier in the off season. We know where Pete Carroll stands.

494
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Speaker 1: He's the oldest coach in the league, and you know

495
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Speaker 1: it's been a while now since they've been a true

496
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Speaker 1: uh force in the NFC. Um if things go south

497
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Speaker 1: after the season and the Russell Wilson relationships sours further,

498
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Speaker 1: and maybe he's not even in the picture. Are you

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Speaker 1: building around a safety that's being paid higher more than

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Speaker 1: I don't know, is it makes sense to hold off

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Speaker 1: on Adams, but well, Adams allow that without things getting ugly.

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00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: It's it's tricky, tricky business. But remember that the terms

503
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Speaker 1: of that trade when they sent two first round picks

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Speaker 1: to New York to get Jamal Adams when he wanted

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Speaker 1: a new contract. It gives Adams all the leverage in

506
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Speaker 1: the world sales Seahawks have to pony up or it

507
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: becomes one of the worst trades in a very long time.

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Speaker 1: You raise, you raise great points and that Seattle to

509
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Speaker 1: me could be anywhere. You know, they could make the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. They have enough talent, but they it could

511
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Speaker 1: also fall apart. Like their number one cornerback right now

512
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: is a Kelly weatherspoon. Number two is DJ read like

513
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: it is a long way from the legion of Boom.

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Speaker 1: You have to have things come together. And I saw

515
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Speaker 1: this the whole like, are we gonna run the ball

516
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: a lot again? Like talk is starting up again in Seattle,

517
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Speaker 1: like because ultimately that's what Pete Carroll wants to do,

518
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't want to like say it out loud

519
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: because he knows everyone gets fired up. But every time

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Speaker 1: I kind of doubt the Seahawks, they end up winning,

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Speaker 1: like eleven games. It's really hard. They're going to eleven

522
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Speaker 1: and five, I mean, but I do think that there

523
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Speaker 1: are they're pretending eleven and six. Their potential rumblings on

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Speaker 1: the horizon. If Russell Wilson, despite his tweets saying how

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Speaker 1: thrilled and happy is right now, um, all that could

526
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Speaker 1: bubble back up, you know, come late January when they've

527
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Speaker 1: been knocked out of the playoffs again. To dance point,

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Speaker 1: I think it's Russ or Carrolo unless they go to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. But I pick yeah. I agree, um,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, the Seahawks have been good for so long,

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Speaker 1: and you I'm using good and not necessarily positive right

532
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: now because they're kind of stuck in this this good

533
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: col de sac and being in the good could de

534
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: sac keeps certain people happy and paid and employed, but

535
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Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily lead to the lombardies that just winning

536
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: double digit games is not gonna be enough for this team.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to make a substantial playoff run or

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Speaker 1: I really do see um changes coming um changes in

539
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Speaker 1: the depth chart of the Minnesota Vikings at quarterback in

540
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: training camp, Kirk Cousins and Kelln Mont the the sixty

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Speaker 1: overall pick in NFL Draft. We're among the Vikings placed

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Speaker 1: on the reserve COVID nineteen list on Monday. That's a

543
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: problem because Kellen Mon is the guy waiting in the

544
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Speaker 1: wings at quarterback. Kirk Cousins is the starter entering I

545
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Speaker 1: believe is a fourth season in Minnesota. He's the locked in,

546
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Speaker 1: loaded starter for the Vikings. And this is also the

547
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: same kirk Cousins, and here we are talking about COVID

548
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Speaker 1: nineteen again because she cannot avoid it. Uh. Famously, Estra said,

549
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Speaker 1: if I die, I die a little a minor tweak

550
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: of the famous vandrago. If he dies, he dies, referring

551
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: to himself when when he was talking about precautions to

552
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Speaker 1: slow the spread of COVID nineteen. So, I don't know,

553
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: does that selling a guy that's vaccinated not particularly well

554
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: and the fact that he's out of practice tells us

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00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: he's not. Because that's why Jake Browning. Do I have

556
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: the name right? Yeah, Jake Browning? Brown can't say I'm

557
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: overly familiar with Browning. Could have googled that in I

558
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: got it right. Um. Browning through over a hundred passes,

559
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: according to reporters on Saturday and Sunday's practice. Each he

560
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: was literally the only quarterback because he was vaccinated, and

561
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: so Kirk Cousins, even though he doesn't he didn't test

562
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: positive as as far as we know, because of the rules,

563
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Speaker 1: because he's a close contact in that quarterback room, you know,

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Speaker 1: he and they're there, four string rookie are out. You know,

565
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: I can't practice at all. And they actually had to

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00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,239
Speaker 1: you know sign uh cooks. Today they worked out our

567
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: old friend old McDonald. So at least it's getting our

568
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: old friend McDonald old McDonald. Yeah, not even Cole McDonald.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about case Cook. That's awesome. That feels like, um,

570
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: like when you buy like a football video game and

571
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: they don't have NFL licensing, like that would be one

572
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Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks case cookis. It's hard to believe that's

573
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Speaker 1: a real human, but um, he is. I will say

574
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: Zimmer seems steamed um and he's not alone. He's in

575
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: that Ron Rivera territory, and they've got a bunch of

576
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: stuff going on in Washington too. I think Zimmer's basically said,

577
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: like they asked why certain players were not vaccinating, he

578
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: said they were reading some stuff and they're involved in

579
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: certain types of information campaigns that to him are just

580
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: like what are these people talking about? So I think

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00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: he's just beyond I think these coaches are trying to

582
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: like counsel these guys to get it up to the

583
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 1: nine plus percent range, and some of these teams are

584
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: some of these coaching staffs are having a really rugged

585
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: time convincing aspects of the team. When he said some

586
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: guys are staunchly against it. I think he was talking

587
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: about cousins. I mean, because cousins, you know, he is

588
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: making the choice even if you don't test positive, that

589
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: you're risking an example like this about this quote from

590
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Speaker 1: Zimmer referring to our friend Jake Browning. Jake is really smart.

591
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: He's vaccinated, He's out there, he's available. It's important to

592
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: be available in a team sport. And this is a

593
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: big year for Mike Zimmer, by the way. You think

594
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: he's pissed because all the b and let's be honest,

595
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: that's what this is well to me, and I think

596
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: we're all in agreement. These guys that aren't getting vaccinated, Um,

597
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: they put their team in a tough spot. And Zimmer

598
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: is just trying to put out the best team possible

599
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: here and he's dealing with something that he has no

600
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: control over. And you see the frustration boiling over when

601
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: it's wasted practices, and like look at I mean what

602
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: people want to have their own opinions on the whole

603
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: a vaccination thing. I'm all about like that debate. That's cool.

604
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: Like I'm vaccinated personally, but like, if you're going to

605
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: be part of a football team. Like, the whole point

606
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: is you are wasting practices. You're like, what's happening in Washington?

607
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: They have like seven guys on the list right now.

608
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just these things matter, These days matter.

609
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: And when this when this branches into week one through

610
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: week five, weeks six, and it's going to for some teams,

611
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: it's a mess. Almost seemed in tears because he was

612
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: kind of he was just saying, do it for me,

613
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm scared, I'm immunocompromised. And right after that,

614
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: five or six of his guys tested positive. So that's

615
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: not working because he's trying to say it's not about you,

616
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: it's about other people. That's generally this whole argument. But

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00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: that's not it's not gonna work with everyone. That's what's

618
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: happening in the news. Listen. I really like David Carr.

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Speaker 1: He's a friend of the show. I remember a few

620
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: years back he came on our program broke it to

621
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Speaker 1: Pete between Greg and I and Derek Carr over some

622
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: blocking that had been done on social media. David was instrumental,

623
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: as was Lindsay Rhodes and making that happen. And the

624
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: only thing David did nothing wrong other than accept the trophy.

625
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: What I liked him to abdicate the trophy? Does that work?

626
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: Um in real time? Uh? Just say, you know what,

627
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: thank you, Derek, my brother. But I can't accept this

628
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: because it's not this is the tug boats property what

629
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Speaker 1: I've liked that, sure, But did I expect it happened? No?

630
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: Is it too late for it to happen? No? So

631
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: in this fantasy land, he is aware of your self

632
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: appointed nickname tug boat, right, I mean the question by

633
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: the way, you know tug boats like going off right now,

634
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: So don't act like it's not something that's caught fire.

635
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Speaker 1: Unlike all your other self appointed nicknames, I like this one.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm off for tugboat in front of its interesting story,

637
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Speaker 1: do I mean to book? I think tug about is

638
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: an interesting origin story. It's attached to um to weather,

639
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: a real weather event that happened on a very special

640
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: weekend and we were together. So I think it's there's

641
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more to it than the other eight

642
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: or nine nicknames that you've attempted to attach yourselves too.

643
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: I like some of them, Big Big Daddy Rich or

644
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: whatever that one. That one that was nice. That was

645
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: that was a Chris Westling joint. Well west like and

646
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: did to Chuck Daily, the former Pistons coach and his

647
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: love of his own hair. Um, all right, let's get

648
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: to it. It's that time of year, training camps in

649
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: full swing. Let's do some whisper. Why do you seem

650
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: so scared? All I wanted to do is to play

651
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: with you this band? All right? Oh jeez, that's a thing.

652
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's all about. That's a thing.

653
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Things that we're hearing, things that

654
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: we're reading. They might not be the top headline over

655
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com or over on the quote unquote

656
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: worldwidely or over on p f t uh Greg's old

657
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: place of business. That maybe they're not top of the stack,

658
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: but there's stuff that's going on behind the scenes that

659
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: are gonna have huge ramifications, uh in the short term

660
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: and potentially the long term for teams. So Greg, get

661
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: us going with a whisper that you've heard or care

662
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: to report on. I don't know whether to go with

663
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: like the big, bigger story when you described it to me,

664
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: pumping pumping up like the white slot receiver in the

665
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: first few days of camp feels more like the classic whisper.

666
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: And that's what's happening here with Adam Humphries in Washington.

667
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: I usually don't buy this stuff. Oh okay, like the

668
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: nifty slot receiver is getting open when there's no tackling

669
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: a shocker here. Um, But hearing how Humphries is Ryan

670
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's number one target day after day actually is meaningful

671
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: to me because you look at what Humphries did with

672
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, getting a hundred targets per season back to

673
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: back years when they were with the Bucks. Kind of

674
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: forgot those Fitzpatrick Bucks days already. Uh, And you think

675
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: this guy is only twenty years old. He got paid

676
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: because of Ryan Fitzpatrick. He was injured in Tennessee and

677
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: if nothing else, I'm not saying he's gonna catch a

678
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: hundred passes. To me, he is a guy to be

679
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: aware of. And it's another sort of stack here that

680
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm building in the case of the Washington football team

681
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: being the most entertaining version of the Washington team that

682
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: we've seen this century. And Humphreys now added to the

683
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: mix with McLaurin and Logan Thomas, who just got paid

684
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: and Samuel and Gibson. I just think he's there, whisper.

685
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: That's the whisper. Whisper buying this, whisper buying it. This

686
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: isn't Saint Chris Hogan on Hard Knocks four years, thirty

687
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: six million dollars he got from the Titans off that

688
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: run with the Bucks and it did not happen. It

689
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: didn't want in. The Patriots supposedly tried to give him

690
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: like more money up front and on everyone that they

691
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: got lucky, they got lucky, they didn't, um uh, And

692
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: it just didn't work out in Tennessee. And that was

693
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: a nice set up, it seemed for him in Tennessee.

694
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: So I guess I I temper that where where is

695
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: he at age wise? At this that's the thing he's

696
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: And he was injured. He was injured the whole time

697
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: he tried to play through it. He did not look good.

698
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: He just turned So yeah, I mean, it feels like

699
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: a nice uh, it could be a nice move. I'm

700
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: with you on that. I mean, I think, like we

701
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: all love Ryan Fitzpatrick, but there is a scenario where

702
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: he turns evil at some point and we get the

703
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: lesser version of Ryan Fitzpatrick and you, and suddenly we

704
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: have his game. I'm not saying his character. I'm just

705
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: saying another you know, the film Another Whisper out of Washington.

706
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: They're just in that relation is that Heineke has has

707
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: come out not playing well this camp, that there is

708
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: no company that even though they're splitting reps a little bit,

709
00:36:54,080 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: Heineken Whisper. You know, It's it's interesting and this is

710
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we're all happy that Ryan Fitzpatrick he's

711
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to be a starter, and who

712
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: would have guessed it um in two thousand twenty one.

713
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: But it is also another cautionary tale of what happens

714
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: when you blow a first round pick at quarterback in

715
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: the ripple effect it has. Because I'm not totally buying

716
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: this set up. As much as I like Ryan Fitzpatrick

717
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: to put together a great seventeen game campaign, I think

718
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: the role that he's been in the last few years

719
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: is perfect for him as a relief man off the

720
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: bench who can help you out in spurts. But when

721
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins bottoms out the way he did, Um, you're

722
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: kind of left scrambling. And they now they have this defense,

723
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: this playoff ready defense, and they have some pieces on offense,

724
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: and you're just putting a lot on Ryan Fitzpatrick. We'll see.

725
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't want to be negative about

726
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. Let me throw out another wide receiver. Um,

727
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: the whispers are getting louder out in Floren Park for

728
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: Elijah More, the second round pick out of oldness. I'm

729
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: not you know, I'm not gonna say and listen Homer obviously,

730
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna say that this is gonna be

731
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: the Justin Jefferson of two thousand twenty one, the rookie

732
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: wide receiver who immediately goes off and becomes a big

733
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: time star. But I would be very surprised, based on

734
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: what we've heard through O t A s in the

735
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: early portion of camp if Elijah Moore does not have

736
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: a significant role and isn't a playmaker out of the

737
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: gate for the Jets. And a lot of that, of

738
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: course goes back to how Zack Wilson develops at quarterback.

739
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: But as an example, UM, in both the practices over

740
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: the weekend, they started with long touchdown catches by More,

741
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: and again there's no pads on over the weekend, and

742
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: you can't really grab the receivers, so you don't want

743
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: to get too caught up in these practices. But at

744
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: the same time, he cannot be covered. Uh and and

745
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: the Jets don't have a great secondary. But that just

746
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: everything you're hearing is that this guy is different. He

747
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: looks different, he plays different, and if he turns into

748
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: a star, that is a huge hit for Joe Douglas

749
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: to get in the second round in a draft that

750
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: had several wide receivers taken in the first round. Um.

751
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: But this last note from Robert May's over at the

752
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: Athletic based on what we saw Saturday, More isn't just

753
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: going to be a slot option for the Jets. He's

754
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna have the multifaceted role of a top shelf receiver,

755
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: which is what they need because they have a lot

756
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: of good guys in that group, including Corey Davis. Corey

757
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: Davis is a perfect two. If More develops into a

758
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: one quickly, the Jets are set up really well at

759
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I'd say the other whispers the Denzel Mims,

760
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: who we were so high on, is like practicing with

761
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: the third team. Part of that is because Elijah More

762
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: has evolved so quickly. I mean, I don't. It's it's

763
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: almost hard to call it a whisper because I feel

764
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: like I've been hearing about Elijah more Um trumpeted from

765
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: the New York Press all spring into summer, and it

766
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: is superb. It is extremely enticing for the Jet stand.

767
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: I hope, So, I hope. So Mark sounded like you

768
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: were saying it live. Can we just hear that one again?

769
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: I went to hear that one again. How about some

770
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: whispers that guy's annoying? Uh no, and proud of me?

771
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Now dad? No? Actually yes, It's just that's a father

772
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: who's not giving his son what he deserves, which is

773
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: um to be told that he's loved and respected. Affirmation

774
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: does affirmation? I want to see? Like, look, last year

775
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: was maybe the greatest rookie receiver class of all time.

776
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: Maybe this is a trend. Jefferson, Lamb, Claypool, Higgins, Judy,

777
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: they all put up big numbers. So now we're like

778
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: expecting a rookie receiver to put up some numbers. It

779
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: doesn't seem it so crazy. Used to be a position

780
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: that you kind of waited a little bit till they

781
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: got mean, that feels like anti Jets propaganda. Greg, You're

782
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: like what, you're already looking at Elijah More No matter

783
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: what he does, it's just you know, a run of

784
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: the mill yard receiver that he could put up over it.

785
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: If these guys can all go over nine D, what

786
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: what's wrong with More going over a thou and two

787
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: like that? It's not so unprecedented now, I think for

788
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: a Jets fan, though, you'd be peeing your pants because

789
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: it's been like decades since anything like That's current added

790
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: a thousand yard receiver in six years, which is absurd

791
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: in modern football. Mark, how about you? Um, I'm gonna

792
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: go to Las Vegas. I will allow you do all

793
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: your things. Tell me when you're ready, Tell me when

794
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: you're ready. Do you know, Mark? Do you know in um?

795
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: You know in sitcoms with when there's a laugh track

796
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: and you can even watch it on YouTube, like watch

797
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: a Friend Friends episode when they take out the laugh

798
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: track and how weird it is and it's almost like

799
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: you're on acid when you're watching it. When when the

800
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: drops of this quality are are being just just filtered

801
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: into the program like a David Swimmer. You you just

802
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: give a slight pause, let the drop breathe, then take off.

803
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: In fairness, though whispers in the past would always include

804
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: us just going whisper, so you know he didn't know

805
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: this was the plan. It's tough. It's tough to adapt

806
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: on the fly. I mean, the drop comes when I'm

807
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: like two thirds through all, not not when you're not

808
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: when you're two thirds through a sentence. So it's just

809
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: like I, I will, I will take a pause. It

810
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: will be a twenty minute pause until the show ends.

811
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 1: How about that? Al Right, Mark, You've made your point.

812
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: No more fun, everybody, Um, okay, out to Las Vegas.

813
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm waiting for her to drop it again.

814
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: I think there's a little whisper about a guy that

815
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: was chuckled at during draft day, Alex Leatherwood. Why did

816
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders pick this guy? His name is Funny. He

817
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: is a total reach. Um. We had our fun with him,

818
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: as did everyone. But the reports coming out of Las

819
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: Vegas are that he has been he's settled in very

820
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: quickly at right tackle. He's looked great. Um they say

821
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: good feet, his hands, he's fluid, and he's got good size.

822
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: And the Raiders basically have installed more than plays on

823
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: offense and he hasn't he hasn't really skipped a beat,

824
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: and so for you know, Mike Mayock, I think needs

825
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: a win. If you look at actually like Jonathan Abram,

826
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: like some of these guys that have been drafted that

827
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: were meant to come in and be stars simply have

828
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: not been at all. And like this was the one

829
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: where ever everyone thought Mayock, you think differently, But are

830
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: you actually capable of picking players for the Raiders that

831
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: can turn this team around? If Leatherwood clicks, it does

832
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: wipe away some of the nonsense that happened with their

833
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, I think that Mayok has done if

834
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: they don't show progress as a team in these draft

835
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: picks um either from the last couple of classes or

836
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: like you make a good point, if Leatherwood has a

837
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: really good first year, I think that helps a lot.

838
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: We don't know, like the what is the true reporting

839
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: structure and who's actually making the picks. Maybe it's actually

840
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: John Gruden, but Mayok and his roles. The GM obviously

841
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: has a voice in the room, if not the biggest voice,

842
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: and and I think there's gonna someone who's gonna have

843
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 1: to pay for it if they have another bad season.

844
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: I would also add quick clear that like Henry Ruggs,

845
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: who was another disappointment. Um. They noted that he added

846
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: thirteen pounds because he was getting pushed around as a

847
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: run blocker last year, and he said it he wanted

848
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: to basically not have that happen again, and he looks

849
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: completely different. I do think it's it's worth noting that

850
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: that the Raiders big you know, changes on the offensive

851
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: line other than Leatherwood, was like self scouting, like they're

852
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: replacing one of the best centers of the last ten

853
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: years in Rodney Hudson. But they did it because there

854
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: was a guy in house uh In Andrey James that

855
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: they really believed in, like that's been there for a

856
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: couple of years. It wasn't it wasn't necessary. Denzel Good

857
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: is also playing that guard that they're replacing, Like it's

858
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: a couple of in house guys. I think Gruden loves

859
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: having Mayak there because I think finding the right GM

860
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: for Gruden where Gruden's really in charge is tricky, someone

861
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: that he can work with well but is ultimately subservient

862
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: in in many ways. I think that's Gruden has a

863
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: lot of relationships over the last twenty five years. That's

864
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: I just think maybe there's gonna be a point with

865
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: this quote unquote rebuild uh, where there might need to

866
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: be a sacrifice if the fan base is on fire

867
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: and things go sideways again. True, and they have a

868
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: lot of they have a lot of guys in their

869
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: secondary they need their safety more to work out. Maybe

870
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: trayvon Mullen steps it up a little bit this year,

871
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: like they've made a lot of moves. Alright, you're up,

872
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: Greg Whisper, Waspers, well done. See the slight pause, A

873
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: little swimmer pause there, Mark, thanks Dan a little. I

874
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: understand how that works technically too. That's not what was

875
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: happening with me. Let's go to the most predictable whisper

876
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: of all time. Shocker And and this is really be

877
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: in position this way. Trey Lance actually looks so good

878
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: that even though you would have never guessed it in

879
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: O T. S in minicamp, maybe has a shot to

880
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: start Week one. We shouldn't. Why is that shocking? Maybe

881
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: it's to the to the guys who are they're covering

882
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: it every day. They like knowing more doesn't help because

883
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: the coaches are saying it, they're watching it. And yeah,

884
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: of course Jimmy G looks better and O. T. S

885
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: or whatever. But if you take a step back, this

886
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: job is gonna be Trey Lance. If Trey Lance balls

887
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: out and through four or five games, uh, four or

888
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: five practices again nonpadded, it sounds like he's playing quite

889
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: well and that he's gonna have a chance. And to me,

890
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: this is a rocket ship taking off. And if he

891
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: keeps it up and plays well in the preseason, he

892
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: is their Week one starter. I don't know if Jimmy

893
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: G stays on the team or not, but they people

894
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: are loving the deep throws that Tray Lance is trying

895
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: that Jimmy G doesn't even attempt. So if again, if

896
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: they're like even, it goes to the rookie, Like if

897
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: it's close to a tie, it goes to the rockie.

898
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: And right now they're saying like, if you just watch

899
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks, it's close to a tie and Lance

900
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: offers something Jimmy G obviously, I mean, come on, I mean,

901
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: this is this is the hand picked rookie that everyone's

902
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: in love with in that building. If he's showing that

903
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: he is able to play the guitar right off the bat,

904
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: why hesitate pull the trigger? Yeah, it's very early and

905
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: and things again change a lot starting this week, once

906
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: the pads are on and things get more difficult for

907
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball because the defense is

908
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: no longer playing with one hand behind his back. Maybe

909
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: Lance totally is flustered once that happens. But if he's not,

910
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: what's the case for staying with Jimmy G other than

911
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: just oh well, he was on our team that went

912
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, Like, you got to play the

913
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: best guy, right, I think of anything you're you want

914
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: to put a lot of Jimmy G out there during

915
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: the summer too. As we've talked about, he's trade baite

916
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: at this point, another quarterback goes down. Suddenly he becomes

917
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: very tradeable and they get a high price for him

918
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: if he looks good in the preseason or they got

919
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: a high price form anyways, But here's the thing about

920
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: trade Lance. Even if they stick to the script and

921
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: start the season with Jimmy G. I still think you're

922
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: gonna get a sub package with Lance that's just gonna

923
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: grow by the week. He is the same height and

924
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: one pound heavier than Colin Kaepernick and can do things

925
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: to Colin Kaepernick could not, and everything they say about

926
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: him is just that He's pure electricity. If you go

927
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: watch his college film, there is something about him that

928
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: you just cannot keep off the field. So I think

929
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: you're just gonna get a bigger and bigger dose until

930
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: he just naturally takes over the role. If he doesn't

931
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: take it right away, I think there's a case to

932
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: be made to keep Jimmy G as a million dollar backup.

933
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: I know you want to avoid that, but at least

934
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: if you're not getting any real exciting offers for Jimmy G.

935
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: I'd rather have those two than counting on Trey Lance

936
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: to stay stay healthy and great for sixteen games. When

937
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: you have a super Bowl ready roster, I would just

938
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: keep Jimmy G. See if he'll try to take a

939
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: bake Try to force him to take a bake up,

940
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: but that would be difficult. But I think I just

941
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: pay him, Just pay him as the backup. You want

942
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: Nate Sudfeld as your backup this year for fans now,

943
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: But if you're a fan, though, like, who cares about

944
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy G's contract for this year? If he's not the

945
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: better quarterback, that's stuff that we can go I'll get

946
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: in the weeds about. But like, at this point, you

947
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: put the better player, and they have invested a lot

948
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: more in Trey Lance if you think about it than

949
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: just the money to Jimmy G. Jimmy G is a

950
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: more tradeable asset than I would have thought before you

951
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: do a little bit of digging. He's under contract only

952
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: through two so this year and next, the salary is,

953
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, pretty high. But if you can factor in

954
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: a way to work things out financially to maybe take

955
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: on some of that. I wonder if you took on

956
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: a portion of his salary what Jimmy G would fetch

957
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: in a trade if you if you didn't take on

958
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: any of the salary, if you're the Niners, maybe it's

959
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: a mid round pick, but maybe you get a second

960
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: round pick for him if you eat some of the

961
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: salary and to keep him. I'd rather keep him. I'm

962
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: with you because I don't want to losing record for

963
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: the what the fourth time in five years. Quarterbacks so important.

964
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: It's in a it's a weird situation they're in, but

965
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: I still just keep him in pay him. I think

966
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: that does give you some cover too, because this is

967
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: a team with Super Bowl aspirations and U you're all in.

968
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: So if you can if you can afford to have

969
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: a backup. That's making million dollars a little weird. I mean,

970
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: it's the but the payroll is set at this point,

971
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: like you know, just just go go to work. It is,

972
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: it is all right. Another quarterback news. This headline from

973
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: Denverse seven ABC. So much for Steady Teddy period the

974
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: rare period in the headline Bridgewater Craters as defense dominates.

975
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: Where's the headline from Denverse seven ABC Troy Rank with

976
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: the report also in the lead, Steady Teddy had more

977
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: interceptions than gloves Oh in an otherwise accurate training camp,

978
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: Bridgewater Crater on day four picked off three times as

979
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: the Broncos gnarly defense dropped its fangs. Drew Lock played

980
00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: well during the same time, and according to um Mr

981
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: Rank by his count through four practices, Lock leads the

982
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: QB derby to one one as the team returns to

983
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: practice Monday and puts on pads for the first time

984
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. UM My point here is not to get

985
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: into another Teddy Bridgewater debate, but two uh kind of

986
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: put it out there that there is a pretty decent

987
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: chance Drew Lock somehow ends up being the starting quarterback

988
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 1: for the Broncos one, something that I thought would never

989
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: could never be the case by the end of last year,

990
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: and it just seemed like they they knew, everyone knew

991
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: that they needed to get better at that position. But

992
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: when you bring in and this, I guess it is

993
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: where the Teddy talk comes in a little bit. When

994
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: you bring in someone like Teddy Bridgewater where the ceiling

995
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: maybe isn't as high as you wanted to be, you

996
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: might end up in a situation where you're going back

997
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: to the Lockwell, um, and that might not turn out

998
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: well for this Broncos team that is otherwise ready to

999
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: make a run. Won't this be like the fifth time

1000
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: in six or seven years that will see two, if

1001
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: not three goes starting quarterbacks? And I predict that we

1002
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: will see whoever starts Week one, fine, we'll see the

1003
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: other quarterback by the end of Week two. Well. Fangio

1004
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: today Monday pointed out Teddy Bridgewater bounced back huge, it's

1005
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: to two to one. Here's the here's a tweet, Uh,

1006
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater pushing the ball down the field today hits

1007
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: on a forty yard bob. Oh my gosh, Courtland Sutton Deep.

1008
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: It's a whole new Teddy. I'm waiting, wait a day,

1009
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: wait a day. I mean, it's just like, we'll probably

1010
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: see both. I think the only chance that we see

1011
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: one is if Teddy gets weak one and I would

1012
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: give him a slight edge to get that and they

1013
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: just start winning. But other than that, Um, you're right,

1014
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: I think we'll see both eventually. Alright, Mar, alright, let's

1015
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: go to Arizona, where our friend Peter Schreeger um noted

1016
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: that someone that I've been down on this signing, the

1017
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: whole concept of the Cardinals going after a J. Green

1018
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: and putting them on tickets and you know all this

1019
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: other business. It's like, are we really talking about a

1020
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: J Green this way? But according to Trigger said that

1021
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: he has looked incredible out there at Cardinal's practice, and

1022
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: not just a J. Green, but rookie Rondale Moore also

1023
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: looked fantastic dominant showing today, he said, by both of

1024
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: the wide receivers number three point coult McCoy a quiet

1025
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: great signing. According to Peter Schrieger, so we're hitting aces

1026
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: across the board here, and that actually makes me feel

1027
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: more suspect about the first two nuggets. Well, I know,

1028
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: it's a great quality signing because he brings not just

1029
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: his you know, limited athletic ability, but his I would say,

1030
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: high character and ability to teach younger players. There you go.

1031
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I quite buying the A. G. Green hype,

1032
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: yet it'd be nice to see it came from our

1033
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: colleague Greg Well. I'm just saying one who claimed he

1034
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: respected you highly. So if anything you could that he's

1035
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: been looking good, I'm I'm I have some doubts whether

1036
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: he keeps it going in the season, but I was

1037
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: expecting him to be fine last year, and it did

1038
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: it did not happen. The shocking thing to me is

1039
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: that Larry Fitzgerald might still be on this team. This

1040
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: isn't a whisper, but we haven't talked about it here

1041
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: because I Cliff Kingsbury said that it was up to

1042
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, so that that indicated, and some teammates have

1043
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: talked about it, so it indicates they've offered Larry Fitzgerald

1044
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: the contract and that Larry Fitzgerald has some interest in playing.

1045
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: I kind of thought Larry Fitzgerald was retired, or that

1046
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: he was being forcibly quietly open ended. It's been I

1047
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: think I thought he was getting forcibly retired. But the

1048
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: way that the Cardinals have publicly talked about it makes

1049
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: me think almost for sure that the cot like like

1050
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of it to him to go

1051
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: like earn a spot on the team. Essentially, they offered

1052
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: him one of those types of contracts, probably close to

1053
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: the minimum, and if he wants to play for that,

1054
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: he can play and if not, see you. But they

1055
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: actually are leaving that open. Do you remember, Mark, Like

1056
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: the last three or four seasons of the Office, I

1057
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:07,479
Speaker 1: was depressed there and the and the show. The show

1058
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: was so tremendous, uh, seasons one through about four that

1059
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: what happened starting really in about season six through eight

1060
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: or nine, Um, it started to almost remove some of

1061
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: the shine off the show. And you kind of wish

1062
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: they would have ended it sooner, like when Michael left,

1063
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: for instance. UM, that's kind of how I feel about

1064
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald's career. Um, he is the um the Office

1065
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: of Wide Receivers to me in the two thousands, and

1066
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: to see him have, um, who is the who is

1067
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: the Spader? James Spader? I don't need like a James

1068
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: Spader era of Larry Fitzgerald in the NFL. I think

1069
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: last year we saw a lot too give us a

1070
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: clue that maybe he wasn't the guy anymore to be

1071
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: playing uh in the wide wide receiver in the NFL.

1072
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: But hey, he's he's also inclined to do whatever he wants.

1073
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: It's it's an apt comparison. And what's so when does

1074
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: he just to see aside like on September eight, I'm

1075
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: going to show up and play. I mean, it's this

1076
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: would be the time to maybe show up. If you're

1077
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: gonna do it, he is gonna retire. I mean we've

1078
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: saw we saw Jerry Rice, you know, get cut by

1079
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: a few teams. Hard to keep track of which one

1080
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: was the last one the Seahawks was as that was

1081
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: Spader esque. Yeah, there he's trying. You would think Fitzgerald's

1082
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: trying to avoid that. But maybe he won't even maybe

1083
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: he won't even show the The offense, the quote unquote

1084
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: air raid offense in Arizona um a lot of volume,

1085
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: tons of plays. They led the league and you're like,

1086
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: oh cool, they're explosive. But all they did last year,

1087
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: especially as things created down the stretcher just throw short, short, short, short,

1088
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: and Larry Fitzgerald. That's kind of what his thing is.

1089
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: They need a J. Green, or at least the modern

1090
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: day version of Larry Fitzgerald. What they need is a J.

1091
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: Green to be the old AJ Green. But he might

1092
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: just be old AJ Green nice not according to Traeger,

1093
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: So we'll track that. Alright, Let's do one more quick round, Greg,

1094
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: I got a few. Well you got stepped on that time,

1095
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: didn't you. David Swimmer, it's I do not want to

1096
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: be the Swimmer. Let me be Joey. I guess I'll

1097
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: be Phoebe. That's who I know. You're not a Phoebe.

1098
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: You're not You're not a Joey. You know we're we're

1099
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: strong here. So I'm gonna grab Chandler markets Swimmer, I'm

1100
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: gonna be that the guy who owned the coffee place. Um,

1101
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: he just passed away. I think it's a little too soon.

1102
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: Could you be anymore insensitive? See, I'm Chandler. I'm gonna

1103
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: go because it's all been sunshine and roses. I'm gonna

1104
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: go negative here. Adam Beasley, longtime reporter for The Dolphin,

1105
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: covering the Dolphins new works for Pro Football Network pfn UH,

1106
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: says there's concerns about Jalen Waddle, you know, their number

1107
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: six overall pick, that he has not fully recovered from

1108
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: the ale injury that he played through in the National Championship.

1109
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: You'll remember that he is limping, that there is concerned

1110
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: within the building he has not regained his same explosiveness.

1111
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: He did not have surgery. I don't believe. And and

1112
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: it seemed like you went the rehab route and that

1113
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: like they're trying to sell it as like a wattle

1114
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: still faster than plenty of people. And he's out there,

1115
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: he's practicing. But when they asked Waddle about it, his

1116
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: answer was, well, I'm out here practicing and that's that's

1117
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: all that matters. So that it kind of indicates he

1118
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: knows exactly what he's talking about here. That ankle is taped,

1119
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: and that that's a concern because you you you went

1120
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: all out to get this kid, and you you want

1121
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: him to make a fact be a factor right away. Also,

1122
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: if you're less on August one, when you start getting

1123
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,479
Speaker 1: your ass kicked in the NFL, it's it's probably something

1124
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: I could get worse. That's you hate to hear that.

1125
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: SA think about the fact they traded up at him.

1126
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean they gave away traft assets to get this

1127
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: guy in other wide receiver injury news Ravens head John Harbow.

1128
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: Harbaugh said that Mark's Brown suffered a hamstring injury that's

1129
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: actually more significant than originally believed. That's going to lead

1130
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: to Rashad Bateman, their rookie first round pick, and also

1131
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: Sammy Wack Watkins to get more opportunities. But Sammy Watkins,

1132
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: of course, is always hurt, and that there's always an

1133
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 1: injury right around the corner. With that former first round

1134
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: pick and Bateman, it's you know, you could go Justin Jefferson,

1135
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: or you could go Jalen reagor or any other insert

1136
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: rookie that doesn't really break out here. Um, that's putting

1137
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: a lot on his plate um. If Marcus Brown is

1138
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: dealing with injuries and that comes at the same time

1139
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, he's not gonna be back at practice ntil

1140
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: until Friday at the earliest. We don't need to belabor this,

1141
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: but we just talked about it with Kirk Cousins. Because

1142
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: he's not vaccinated, his timetable is different and he's gonna

1143
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: be out now the first two weeks of camp at

1144
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: least because of his latest bout with COVID with no

1145
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: guarantee that he doesn't catch it again. Um so put

1146
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: it all together. This is a raven scene that needs

1147
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: to take a step forward on offense, and this thing

1148
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: is a little jumbled here in the summer anyway, Again, Panic,

1149
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: it's just a whisper. Bateman though, has been getting ray

1150
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: of reports, and actually so is Sammy Watkins. And I understand,

1151
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: like we can, you know, pump the brakes on him

1152
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: at any moment. But but and I know it's Greg Roman,

1153
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: who is you know, he was with him in Buffalo,

1154
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: but said he's just been by far the best wide

1155
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 1: receiver at camp, so at least you know the guys

1156
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: receivers in all of football. That actually is so outlandish

1157
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: that I thought he is the one calling the plays.

1158
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: And Sammy Watkins has not entered a training camp healthy

1159
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: in a while, So you're right, Dan, I have We've

1160
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: been burned so many times. It might end any second now.

1161
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: But if you want to tell me Watkins while he

1162
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: stays healthy, is their number one receiver, I would totally

1163
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: believe that. Yeah, yeah, Mark, Um, I will go to

1164
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: the New York Giants training camp and the Athletics. Dan

1165
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: Dugan mentioned that the g Men, I'm just gonna read

1166
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: what he reads. I love this paragraph. The g Men

1167
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: have thrown an excessive number of fades into the end

1168
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: zone with little success. Quarterback Daniel Jones and new big

1169
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: money receiver Kenny Golladay have struggled to get into rhythm

1170
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: on the timing throws, so they've stayed after some practices

1171
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: to get extra reps. Jones was intercepted by safety Logan

1172
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: Ryan on an overthrown fade to tighten Evan ingram on

1173
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: Friday's practice. And it just sounds like last year's thirty

1174
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: first ranked offense is struggling at the moment. That was

1175
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: my end quote. It is. I don't think it's uh

1176
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones or Kenny Golladay's fault. That stupid offensive play

1177
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: callers are still calling for the end zone fade. Horrible

1178
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: play never works. It works like once every you know,

1179
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: seventy plays. Uh, it's the hardest throw to make in

1180
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: the entire world. Can we stop attempting it? Right? I

1181
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: don't think that's the only play that's not working for them,

1182
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: But you are right about that particular play call that

1183
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: is um it is a reminder to they were like

1184
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: one of the worst teams inside the ten yard line. Ever,

1185
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: that's how you have a quarterback end up with eleven touchdowns.

1186
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: That's like, how do you think of how many throws

1187
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones through inside the ten yard that weren't complete

1188
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: last year. I'm not gonna go two things. I think

1189
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: how much better you'll do inside the ten with se

1190
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley there, who's quote making tangible progress towards returning

1191
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: to practice. But you know, the longer it takes him

1192
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: to return to practice, the more you can concerned about

1193
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: what kind of se Kwon Barkley you get and if

1194
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna be ready week one, hopefully he's there because

1195
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: the offense will be a lot better with Barkley. Let's, um,

1196
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: we haven't really it's weird, and this isn't just our

1197
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: show in general. The Jaguars and Trevor Lawrence aren't getting

1198
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: a ton of pop because I don't know, there's just

1199
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: no buzz and sexiness to a guy that's the number

1200
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: one pick six months before the draft and you just

1201
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: assume certain things. But interesting stuff going on in Jacksonville,

1202
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: where Trevor Lawrences alternated repetitions with the first team offense

1203
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: through the first four days of training camp. Um he's

1204
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: done very well. But C. J. Bethard and Gardner Meanshoe

1205
01:02:55,080 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: also getting plenty of work here. And um, you head

1206
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: coach Urban Meyer, Um, you know he's he's out there.

1207
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: He's you know, of course, a legendary college coach, and

1208
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: he's giving you the raw raw stuff with a the

1209
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: best man, may the best man win. But can we

1210
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: cut it out? I mean, let the best man start.

1211
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: The best man is, of course Trevor Lawrence, who's the

1212
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: generational type prospect at quarterback. So I said, give him

1213
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: every single rep, give him every rep and get this

1214
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: kid ready for Week one and stop playing this game,

1215
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: this college game, because you're not in college anymore. This

1216
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: is where the big boys put on the big boy pants. Mr. Meyer,

1217
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: give Trevor Lawrence the gig. I agree with that, and

1218
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: give Gardner Minshew to the Colts for for like nothing,

1219
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: just for my own enjoyment. I want to see that.

1220
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: That would be a spicy trade. It just you have

1221
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: to wonder if the Jacksonville Jaguars would be so self

1222
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: confident to do like what Bill Belichick did, trading true

1223
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: Bledsoe in the division of the Bills way back when.

1224
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean, would the Jaguars consider that a tradeable spot?

1225
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, get marked comparing Minshew to who you know,

1226
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: the guy who had the biggest contract in NFL history

1227
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: at that time. I mean, the cults would still go

1228
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: one and four with Minshew, but think of all the

1229
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: cool mustaches in the crowd at Lucasill Stadium, so they

1230
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: probably go for and one. To be honest, you can't.

1231
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: Here's why that Jags aren't getting much buzz. By the way,

1232
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: the athletic doesn't have a Jaguars right right now. I

1233
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: need that rely on you Athletic for all the teams. UH.

1234
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: Florida Times Union totally understand. Um, the economic model for

1235
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: newspapers not sustainable. Can't get those articles. There's no there's

1236
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: nothing coming out of Jaguars practice right now. It's already

1237
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: like the smallest market big cat country. You know, I

1238
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: see you, Um, But that's more aggregation we need. There's

1239
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: no reporting. It's like it's like a black hole right now.

1240
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: We need we need more media blackout in Duval. If

1241
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: you're out there, Jacks fans and you have a trusted source,

1242
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: that you believe in for reporting out of Duval County,

1243
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: please hit up at Greg Rosenthal. Right, I'm doing the

1244
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: debrief get out. It's up on Mondays. It's like all

1245
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: the notes, what we learned from around the league, and

1246
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: and it's it's just tough. There's a couple of black holes,

1247
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: but Jacksonville, it's tough to find any information out of there. Alright,

1248
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: anybody else in anything? I think we hit it? How

1249
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: about how about this? I feel bad for the Cowboys. No,

1250
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: don't feel bad for the Cowboys. You know, I've been

1251
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: kind of like bringing up all the bad stuff Dak

1252
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: and you know, Dac not throwing like that is significant,

1253
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: And and Lawrence is coming off back surgery and Cooper

1254
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: has been out seven months. Those those are all significant.

1255
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: Uh so is the fact that Tyrone Smith and Layton Vanderesh,

1256
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: who have not been healthy in years, have showed up

1257
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: looking about as good as they have in years and

1258
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: are two of the truly elite athletic players at their

1259
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: respective positions. If those two guys were actually at their

1260
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: best this year like that, that changes the Cowboys. So

1261
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: there's a little positive news for the cow eight nine

1262
01:05:55,720 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: or nine and eight. Mark eight and nine. I'm not

1263
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: getting sucked in this year. Greg. It's happened to me

1264
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: too many times in the past. So we're what we're

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Speaker 1: rolling Washington. I don't know that is a that is

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Speaker 1: an absolutely absurd division of football. In fact, coming up soon,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do our division power rankings. UM. I call

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Speaker 1: him the overly esoteric Division Power Rankings. That's coming up soon.

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Speaker 1: UM the O E D p R. See if I

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Speaker 1: who's the guy that was on our show, Um, Aaron Chatz,

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Speaker 1: if he can just come up with d V O

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Speaker 1: A and that becomes industry standard otto. Yeah, people, people

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Speaker 1: division power rankings. The people whispered, you know, they thought

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Speaker 1: this was only like kind of an off season dead

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Speaker 1: of the off season type of content. But the division

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Speaker 1: power rankings coming right back in the middle of August.

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Speaker 1: Thought of it in June, but I didn't. I thought

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Speaker 1: of it in August. So I like it. Um, that's

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Speaker 1: coming up soon. We'll figure out what's the division? What's

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Speaker 1: the worst division? I don't know what to think about.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who is the the in the Desert RG.

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Speaker 1: Who's the recognized division favorite? Is it? Is it the Cowboys?

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01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: I think so? But I don't know. Off the top

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Speaker 1: of my head. I think what I noticed was the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys in Washington were way ahead of the other two,

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Speaker 1: And to me, you could shake up all four of those,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like they all have a chance even

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01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, we'll find out during five long hours of

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks with Jerry Jones waxing poetic NonStop from wire

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Speaker 1: to wire, because I'm the only one that has to

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01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: watch it, Mark, you do not have to watch it.

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Speaker 1: I've actually, really I've enjoyed them. You know, I've not

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Speaker 1: a cynic against Hard Knox, but I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're going Cowboys, you're gonna you're like the definition

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Speaker 1: of a cynic against Hard Knocks. If if anyone in

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Speaker 1: the country is a cynic of Hard Knocks, it is you,

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Speaker 1: literally just said Mark, uh during five long hours of

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks like that, I think being cynical about it,

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Speaker 1: it is an opportunity to do something special and teach

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Speaker 1: us things we don't know. So if you're going Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: it's just like I like you tell me that, I

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01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: have a little bit of a reason to be on

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Speaker 1: edge about that. As the chosen team, Mark, do you

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01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: know how much like battery power I could say, or

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01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: like usage, I could save on my cell phone if

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01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: I just deleted the hundreds of tweet texts that you

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Speaker 1: spent over the years about how much you don't like

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01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: hard knocks while it's happening like that, that's taking up.

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Speaker 1: Except for the Brown season. The Brown season was like

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Speaker 1: transcendent on every level. It was an excellent television, beautiful television.

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Speaker 1: Greg By the way, some of the things that I

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Speaker 1: text you are not to be announced on the podcast

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Speaker 1: in front of you know whatever large the audience is

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Speaker 1: just an f y I trillions. All right, good at

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Speaker 1: We'll be back Thursday with another edition of the show.

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Speaker 1: I think we might have a guest sitting in or

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Speaker 1: working on it. UM and the around the NFL broadcast

1318
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Speaker 1: in NFL Network. Also back on Friday. Also big things

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Speaker 1: cooking over on that front um with a reboot coming

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Speaker 1: for a week one of the season. We'll get get

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Speaker 1: you more info on that soon. Head on over if

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Speaker 1: you can to uh iTunes and rate and review this

1323
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Speaker 1: fair podcast. It makes a difference. We won Best New

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Speaker 1: Podcast two thousand thirteen. Apples bestowed that upon us and

1325
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: we are looking for more hardware. It's officially it has

1326
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: come to the point where we need to ramp up

1327
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Speaker 1: the awareness of this podcast. For the UM Award giving

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Speaker 1: COGNIZENTI we want. We won the Stitcher in right best podcast,

1329
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Speaker 1: the sports podcast. We were nominated for some I've been nominated.

1330
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Speaker 1: It's Susan Lucci es. We've been nominated a bunch. But

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Speaker 1: I think if if our fans helped raise the profile

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: via iTunes, I think if I had to guess, and

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be cynical here, but in the

1334
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Speaker 1: absurd world that is giving away trophies to podcasts, that

1335
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: is a substantial thing that happens in the world now.

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Speaker 1: If I had to guess, I bet a bunch of

1337
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Speaker 1: these jabronies just go over to the podcast the Apple podcasts,

1338
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 1: and they see who has the highest stars and who

1339
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Speaker 1: has the most comments, and then uh, they say, all right,

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Speaker 1: give these bronze a troph in a big spot. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'd say it's been a dry spell and I don't

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Speaker 1: see it ending anytime soon with the way these things work.

1343
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Speaker 1: Just at you know, do we deserve it, absolutely Will

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Speaker 1: we get it? Absolutely not. I like to think that

1345
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Speaker 1: they're doing a lot of research, that they're going back

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Speaker 1: to the August second episode, and they're like, well, Mark

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Speaker 1: did talk through that sound drop. I guess uh, I

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Speaker 1: guess we'll go with the fantasy footballers this year for

1349
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Speaker 1: the world pinning on me. That's fine. I can clean

1350
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Speaker 1: that up with the talking over my drops because I

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01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: put a lot of work into that. I think I've

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Speaker 1: explained why that happened and how it happened, and I

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Speaker 1: would I think the finger points to someone else. All right,

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Ricky's just sitting it out. That's fine. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back and down alright till Thursday. Heed the call.