WEBVTT - Combine vs Pro-Day, 2001 NFL Re-Draft, RB Franchise Tags, Bake Off! | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:03.440 On today's episode The. 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:07.080 Command Center Podcast, we're talking running backs and the franchise tag. 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:10.440 Why aren't teams investing in that position anymore? These guys, 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:12.960 Fred Santana give a great perspective on that. And then 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.520 with the combine to participate or not to participate? 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:17.840 That is the question Drake. 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:20.599 Made, jayde Daniels, Caleb Williams, Marvin Harrison Junior on the 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.320 fence about participating. What are the pros and cons of that? 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.520 And a two thousand and one redraft Man. You guys 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.040 know those guys really well in that class, your greatness, 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.560 you're greatness. Where does Santana and Fred go in that draft? 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.599 And then we got a buttercake fake off. Zach Selby's 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:42.440 back with a vengeance Kenny Deliver to Welcome to the 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.440 Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smooth 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:49.080 the Mouth of the South and Santana, Mossy and Dude 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.080 Tanna the sweatsuits. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:55.440 It's it's it's that ocean green right theah. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.520 It's a nice it's a nice look. Man. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.080 Man, ma could just put on this west soon and 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.320 be come to I put cloth. That's my that's my 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.440 biggest thing. When when when it's cold out, I hate 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.040 putting on all those jackets and sweaters, so I just 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:08.039 gots Now, you. 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.520 Can tell this dude like he plans the night before, 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:12.319 like what he's gonna wear wanted. 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:14.760 Look, I actually took this out the wrapper this morning, 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:15.319 took it out. 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.600 The bag at the creation and look at it. 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:19.600 I went in there out the bag to pop the 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.440 tags off it. I went in, I went in my 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.480 hat rack and they're going to have to match it. 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.040 Yeah, that's what I do. Man. 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:26.720 The other thing that I have to map it out 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:27.720 like we did in high school. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:30.600 The other thing that I just wanted to point out is, 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.560 in addition to Santana always being fresh fitted in the 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:39.320 Logan Pulse and Fred smooth sports competitiveness, I think I'm winning, right, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.240 my winning like field goals and basketball. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.080 Right, you dominate me in basketball because you're just huge. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.000 Let's just start there, and you're strong and I was 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:48.640 in no shape. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:52.920 You're winning and the kicking just brute force, Like that's 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:53.480 what you did. 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:54.960 It was a little technique there. But the thing I 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.080 wanted to bring up is last night, you know, getting 0:01:58.080 --> 0:01:59.400 hanging out with my wife and I get a text 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.560 from old Fred that's smooth old to twenty one on 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:04.880 the bowling man, that was pretty good. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.840 I hope he get all that out the way right now, 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.680 and by the time he get there on tape, he 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.080 stinks I didn't wear his game. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:13.680 Because I went to forty one to forty one. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.760 But I'm saying like, and it says it's got his 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:16.800 bowling name Istano. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.760 Sit snap my finger. Half of the pins in the 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.280 world disappeared. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:22.920 And so I don't know, man, I just feel like 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:24.760 the fact you sent that to me means like I'm 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:25.520 in your head a little bit. 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:27.400 Yeah. No, I just want to let you know what 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:28.160 you're about to get in. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.600 And he showing he's showing, he's showing you that he 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.480 can be himself on the lane. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:33.079 You know what I mean. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.639 He can't be himself out there doing anything athletic. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:37.320 You don't need you don't need. No, you need to 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.560 be safe. You gotta be an athlete to go bowls. No, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.320 because I bowled gets A couple of seventy year olds 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.280 yesterday talked all kind of trash too. 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Bet three sixty five Official 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.680 Sports Betting partner of the Washington Commanders. 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:53.880 I bet the house logan cannot beat me in bowling house. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.400 But now guys claimber must be twenty one plus physically 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.200 located in Virginia. Please gamble responsibly if you are in 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.680 someone you know has a gambling problem and won't help 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.240 one eight hundred gambler. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:10.560 Yeah, please do do that. So yeah, I mean, that's 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:11.920 that's that's a good bowling square. 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:12.480 I was. 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.280 I was kind of scared me a little bit because 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:15.960 I'm rusty. I haven't been out there as much. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.400 Both to right, I can bowl to youall. I have 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:18.920 my own ball. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.440 I don't have I just use one thing. But if 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:22.120 I do beat. 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.800 You, if you're not going, I was like, I was like, oh, 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.200 might I have to go out and give me a 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:27.400 game or two wins? 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.960 Bread is out there, get that work in. Yeah, but 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:31.400 I do it. 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.760 I'm bowl That's just my leads. You're like if I need, 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.440 like if I'm having a scutch for day, I'm asked 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:37.119 that all the time. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.160 What do I do for fun? And bowling was one 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:41.760 of them, Like I haven't done it in a while. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.960 Now for fun, I'm riding the bike, working out or something, 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:46.760 you know, what I mean. But that's my fun. Like 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.320 I go bowl like normally when I take my kids 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:49.920 out on the night. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.480 Yeah, we're going. Both we're going, and I'm the same way. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.400 It's a great time because when I was young, I 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.880 grew up with my grandmother's home, and you got to think, 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.159 we come from some of these kind of upbringings where 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:00.920 you have your. 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.200 Mom or the siblings in the house and they have kids. 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.760 And so the way that we got out the house 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.320 from being all crammed up in one big old crib 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.880 is to go bowling or go skating. So those are 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.880 the two things that I down South, yep, you know 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.120 as a youth that now you know, I kind of 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:16.479 try to do it now, you know. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.640 I call them beer anticified sports, meaning I could drink 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:21.839 beer and get better. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:28.479 Like darts, darts, bowling, golf, corn hole, corn hole, corn hole. 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.440 Yeah you're getting better after a few beer. Yeah. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.520 God, when you do golf tournaments, Let's say we had 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:34.520 ten of golf tournament. 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:36.080 By the third hole. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.440 One of my eyes is closed, so I'm seeing in 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:39.960 the matrix. 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:41.960 I don't even see grants. I just see numbers. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.000 That's actually when I get better because I can't golf 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.400 by the time I had the second round of that titos. 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:48.920 Yeah, I'm just slapping that thing. 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.839 Yeah, because if you think too much in golf, you 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.000 will feel so it takes the edge off. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.240 And Jay challenged me to coin hole. 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.760 All right, but I learned how to play coin hole 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.920 by horseshoes, which horseshoes is harder to play the corn hole, 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:04.880 So defoe, I am a specialist? 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.279 Is it theave a comment if you think horse shoes 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:08.720 are harder than corn. 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.080 Yeah, because you get the horseshoes hard. 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:15.440 Is that that? Yeah, I'm not saying horseshoes is easy, 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:16.200 just saying like. 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:17.280 It's harder than corn hole. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.440 Okay, yeah, what do you think, Jason, you're the expert. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.960 I'm not an expert. Horseshoes is hard. I'm better than 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:24.640 Fred at cornhole. 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.919 No, he's not. We will see my. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:31.000 Own corn hole boards like every Saturday. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.680 For like somebody say I'm good at football, and I 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.880 made my own football. Nobody cared that you made a 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.240 peak skin. But my way around what I do. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.640 What I will say Fred is you say you're good 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.680 at everything. That you say you're good at everything, There's 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:43.960 never been one thing where I'm like, you're like, no, 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:44.680 I'm okay at that. 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:46.920 And then some stuff when we were talking now, they 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.719 were like, how are you in back gambling now, like, 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:50.520 I'm not good at that. 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:53.640 I don't even know. Well, I don't even know what 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:54.160 to say to that. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:55.920 I don't even know if that's He just said he 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:56.960 can play ping Pauls. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.160 So that means he can play tennis tennis. 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.200 Every time every town. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.400 We do that for our next contest, pickleball. Yeah, I've 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:09.920 never played. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.760 You know, he's also very good at pickleball? Is intern Caroline? 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:15.679 Is she that's not surprised. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.120 I thought she was good at soccer. I want to 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:18.600 see she's very good at time. 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.280 Also, I was disappointed on that day were kicking field goals. 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:22.080 She was not good. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.640 She was not good at kicking field goals. So she 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:25.760 had soccer though, really. 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.120 Yeah, national champion. 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.119 I know she was probably she was on the team, 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:34.160 she was the start. Pretty good, She's pretty good. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:35.400 She just disappointed. 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:36.640 We need to watch the field. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.280 Watch do that tonight watching turn Caroline. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.760 By the way, speaking of soccer, we did go to it, well, 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.160 I did. He was supposed to be there. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.160 I went to I went to DC United. 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.720 Game, okay, and it was very good and just is 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.360 it such a different audi? 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.120 Oudy stated, such a. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:58.160 Different football crowd, So I enjoyed it. A lot of 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.560 international people there. It's just the way they roared. And 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.920 I can say this about soccer. They get excited about 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.800 these smallest things. Deal yeah, because he's like, no scoring. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.560 You can't get excited about goals, yea, up and down 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:10.920 the field. 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.360 So a guy put a little effort into a player 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.840 get a red card or something. The crowd, I'm like, 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.600 did I just miss something? And I'm just there like 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:20.840 ted least, so I'm just. 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.360 Let me enjoining it. But it was a it was 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.440 a good game, a good crowd. I loved it. 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:28.840 Yeah, no, that's awesome. Intenda. 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.679 You didn't trying to rub it in that I didn't 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.400 show up, but I was. We both had events that 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.440 that that Saturday. I called him after my event, like, hey, 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:38.640 what time you go into the stadium? 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:39.360 That's the night? 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.040 Howse Like, I'm like, well, all right, and I'm gonna 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:43.720 go home. Call me on your way there. 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:45.320 He won. He didn't call me. 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.079 And two when I woke up, it was eight o'clock, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:49.640 so I missed. You know what, I mean, so I'm 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.120 not I'm not tripping, but they was trying to bring 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.480 us out to a local local DC athletes. Yep, so 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.559 Fred was there. I was supposed to be the speed. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.600 Mitch Quarters was there, b Mitch, which I appreciating them, 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.360 So hass off to them for acknowledging those guys from points. 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.920 The DMV should do it more. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:07.439 I appreciate it. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.160 I appreciate it just giving the opportunity. 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:10.720 But it's an I gonna make it. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.520 All right, Well it's I'm glad. I'm glad you had 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.040 fun up the soccer game. Now let's talk about some 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.360 football a right. So kind of big big news coming 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:18.719 out of this week is that a lot of these 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.080 kind of big time running backs, yeah, are not going 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.400 to get the franchise tag. So Ya Sakwon Barkley is 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.959 not going to get it. Josh Jacobs did he get it? No, 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:30.120 not going to get it. Tony Pollard, Derrick, Henry Ausneckler 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:31.719 not going to get franchise tag. They're going to be 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:35.319 free agents probably. How do you guys feel about that? 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:36.959 Because you guys come from like a different era for 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.840 y'all where the running back was that they do do. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:41.439 They were They were like the. 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.120 Thing that twenty million when I was you know, Stephen 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:45.680 Davis was making banks. 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.720 And they were the guys that were the drivers of 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.080 the offense. And so how do you feel about seeing 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.319 kind of this departure from that kind of traditional view 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:53.840 of football. 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:54.840 It sucks. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:56.800 I think it sucks to me just knowing that you 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.439 asked the running back to do a little more. Now. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.040 I mean, most of these guys are pass catches as well, 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:01.200 you know. 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:01.440 What I mean. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.520 You don't have many to You don't have too many 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.240 of these guys that's just coming in primarily on third down. 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.520 You have most of your legit guys, like if you 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.680 look at this list of names, say Kwan Barkley, Paul 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.840 Up last year was his first year having a fourth 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:17.040 time row, Derick Henry could do both, Austin Elker, all 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:17.960 these guys can do both. 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.439 John say, all these guys are basically McCaffrey's you know 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:21.840 what I mean. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.680 They can run the ball between the tackles and you 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:25.440 put them out there. 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:26.800 On any route and they're dangerous. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.840 So when you look at that part of it and 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.559 say you're actually these guys. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:34.520 To say, okay, take less and be happy. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.760 It's hard, especially some of these guys that come up 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.600 their first contract, so they getting ready to get the 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.800 big money and now you're saying that you know you're 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:42.520 not worthy of it. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:43.880 So I find it hard. 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.240 But also one of the things about this game, nature 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:47.679 of the beasts, you have to kind of roll with 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:53.079 the punches. And but what I'm thinking when you're saying saying, Okay, 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.200 these guys are not going to get the fourteen million. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.280 If they was franchised, they'd be worth around what fourteen 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.000 fifteen million, So you say and that no team really 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:02.839 willing to do that right now, they wanted to take 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.840 take a deal. And so who's going to basically set it, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.640 set the ball? Say who's going to set the bar 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.840 and say, Okay, this is what we're worth. And that's 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.640 when I think it's going to be kind of one 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.760 of those things that's going to become a problem because 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:16.800 it might it might be a guy to there, it 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.760 might be the guy that set the bar and the 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.360 other guys feel like, no, I'm worth more. So when 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.360 we see these guys out, that's the thing that we're 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.319 not actually hold hold out. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.720 I dot they hold out, but we would Johnson Taylor 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:28.920 kind of do like a shooto. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:29.920 Last year, Yeah, kind of. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.880 But it's one of the things we watched positions be 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.400 devalued all the time when we got in the NFL, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.400 running back was devalued and they was devail you and 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.040 wide receivers. So at the end of the day, we 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.160 see this tree in all the time. But guess what 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.240 come playoff come cold games, guess what were handing the 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.520 ball off to, Like, come, come, come. If you want 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.720 to win the Super Bowl, you can't just throw your 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:52.640 way to it. You got to run your way to it. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:57.640 So at one point, I think Jonathan Taylor, I think 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.120 did what we thought Saquon was gonna do, not hold 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:06.480 out b D standard like McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor are 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.719 the standard. Like I think the best players in your 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.440 league at the position. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:12.480 Set the tone for the position. 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.400 So Jonathan Taylor means so much to the coach that 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.160 if they lose him, they go a different direction. So 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.520 to have that value and hold that value, I think 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.000 the top guys at the position have to make that standard. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.840 And maybe the top guys not staying healthy, not doing it, 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.960 that's making them say I can find. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.000 Me a check up, but also with what Jonathan Taylor 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.720 did last year, it shined the light in a different 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.680 light because Zach Moss went out there and was his 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:44.560 backup and performed really well, basically resurrected himself because he 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.200 hadn't had a first year, you know what I mean. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.839 That was kind of holding up to what he was 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.000 supposed to come in this league and be. So I 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.760 can kind of honestly say that Jonathan Taylor, it was 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.120 kind of surprising that they still went on on and say, Okay, 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.079 we'll give you the deal you want. I'm not sure 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.200 that's the deal he really wanted, but they gave him 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.760 something long term. But they could have backfired and win 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:04.360 a different round. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.439 But they also did there because they got a quarterback 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.320 on a rookie deal. Like the teams. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:13.360 That that might need, these guys did one player away. 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.920 How can they pay this guy when I'm paying Ja Hurts, Yeah, 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:18.160 two hundred million. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.400 Well, so I also think it's you know you, Tennas said. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:21.840 Tennis said a couple of really good things. But one 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.360 of the things he said is that you're asking running 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:24.760 backs to do more, and I would argue that you're 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.840 actually asking them to do less and what I mean 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.280 by that, you're asking them to do more in terms 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:29.000 of catching. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:29.960 The football, pass protect. 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:31.679 But like, think about like when you guys were in 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.560 the league, Like who was like the guy like at 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.160 the running backs, Andrew j Priest, Hall Henry. Yeah, so 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.360 think about those guys. They're getting thirty touches a game, 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.079 thirty five touches a game. Right now, when you look 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.480 around the league, the guys that get that that that 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.880 kind of workload are Derrick Henry and I think he's 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.520 there the tail end of his career. Christian McCaffrey and 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.120 Nick Chubb, and so those guys, when you look at 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.360 their contract values are I think no one would say 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.520 they're getting paid too much. They're all making about fourteen 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.280 to fifteen million dollars a year because of what they 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.880 mean to their teams. But now I think, you know, 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.079 you mentioned the quarterback being a little bit more valuable 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.400 a Tanna. You made the comparison to McCaffrey, like McCaffrey 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.680 drives that offense, and yeah, San Francisco, right, he's catching 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.600 the football, he's running the football. And when I look 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.679 at these other names, right, I think you could maybe 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.960 make an argument for Josh Jacobs, but does he drive 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.360 it the same way that Derrick Henry does that, the 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.800 same way that Christian McCaffrey does. Tony Pollard I think 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.440 struggled with that this year. Alstin Eckler, I think he's 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.560 on the tail end, didn't quite get it done from 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.400 a running standpoint. Obviously catches a ton of balls. Saquan 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.960 again a guy that's close, but I don't think is 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.320 in that same tier. So to me, when I look 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:37.920 at h I'm saying, there's only three guys in the 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.120 league that are playing like running backs were in two 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:41.760 thousand and one when you guys came to the league. 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.040 So in some ways like and those are the guys 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:45.760 that are making the most money. It's just that the 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.240 role for the running back is very different. 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:48.920 Yeah, right. 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.600 I mean that's a great point, that's a great way 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.520 to even look at it. But what I was just 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.040 saying is not even if you're not the driver, you're 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.480 not the guy that they running the offense through. 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.520 You out there, you out there that you put your 0:14:59.520 --> 0:14:59.960 body one. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.360 You know, whether you're getting thirty carries to twenty, but 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.360 the touches wise, you're getting forty because they find a 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.360 way to get you the ball in space and stuff 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:08.680 like that. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.040 To me, that's what I'm trying to say. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:11.760 You know what I mean, These guys have the same 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.920 skill set of a McCaffrey, not ruler, you know what 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.840 I mean, not the workload, but the same. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.760 Skill See did the standard is set by, like say, 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.640 the top three guys at each position. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.360 What the office has changed so so so drastically to 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.840 where you know, we used to those guys saying, okay, 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.840 the game online, We're gonna run this ball now, game online. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.800 We spread them out even more, were putting four wives 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.120 that we finding a way to get a tight end 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.240 out there into the passing game and then making that 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.560