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Speaker 1: On today's episode The.

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Speaker 2: Command Center Podcast, we're talking running backs and the franchise tag.

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Speaker 2: Why aren't teams investing in that position anymore? These guys,

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Speaker 2: Fred Santana give a great perspective on that. And then

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Speaker 2: with the combine to participate or not to participate?

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Speaker 1: That is the question Drake.

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Speaker 2: Made, jayde Daniels, Caleb Williams, Marvin Harrison Junior on the

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Speaker 2: fence about participating. What are the pros and cons of that?

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Speaker 2: And a two thousand and one redraft Man. You guys

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Speaker 2: know those guys really well in that class, your greatness,

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Speaker 2: you're greatness. Where does Santana and Fred go in that draft?

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Speaker 2: And then we got a buttercake fake off. Zach Selby's

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Speaker 2: back with a vengeance Kenny Deliver to Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smooth

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Speaker 2: the Mouth of the South and Santana, Mossy and Dude

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Speaker 2: Tanna the sweatsuits.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's that ocean green right theah.

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Speaker 2: It's a nice it's a nice look. Man.

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Speaker 4: Man, ma could just put on this west soon and

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Speaker 4: be come to I put cloth. That's my that's my

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Speaker 4: biggest thing. When when when it's cold out, I hate

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Speaker 4: putting on all those jackets and sweaters, so I just

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Speaker 4: gots Now, you.

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Speaker 3: Can tell this dude like he plans the night before,

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Speaker 3: like what he's gonna wear wanted.

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Speaker 4: Look, I actually took this out the wrapper this morning,

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Speaker 4: took it out.

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Speaker 2: The bag at the creation and look at it.

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Speaker 4: I went in there out the bag to pop the

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Speaker 4: tags off it. I went in, I went in my

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Speaker 4: hat rack and they're going to have to match it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I do. Man.

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Speaker 4: The other thing that I have to map it out

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Speaker 4: like we did in high school.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that I just wanted to point out is,

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Speaker 2: in addition to Santana always being fresh fitted in the

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Speaker 2: Logan Pulse and Fred smooth sports competitiveness, I think I'm winning, right,

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Speaker 2: my winning like field goals and basketball.

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Speaker 3: Right, you dominate me in basketball because you're just huge.

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Speaker 3: Let's just start there, and you're strong and I was

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Speaker 3: in no shape.

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Speaker 1: You're winning and the kicking just brute force, Like that's

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Speaker 1: what you did.

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Speaker 2: It was a little technique there. But the thing I

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Speaker 2: wanted to bring up is last night, you know, getting

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Speaker 2: hanging out with my wife and I get a text

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Speaker 2: from old Fred that's smooth old to twenty one on

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Speaker 2: the bowling man, that was pretty good.

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Speaker 4: I hope he get all that out the way right now,

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Speaker 4: and by the time he get there on tape, he

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Speaker 4: stinks I didn't wear his game.

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Speaker 1: Because I went to forty one to forty one.

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying like, and it says it's got his

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Speaker 2: bowling name Istano.

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Speaker 3: Sit snap my finger. Half of the pins in the

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Speaker 3: world disappeared.

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Speaker 2: And so I don't know, man, I just feel like

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Speaker 2: the fact you sent that to me means like I'm

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Speaker 2: in your head a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I just want to let you know what

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Speaker 1: you're about to get in.

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Speaker 4: And he showing he's showing, he's showing you that he

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Speaker 4: can be himself on the lane.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: He can't be himself out there doing anything athletic.

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Speaker 1: You don't need you don't need. No, you need to

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Speaker 1: be safe. You gotta be an athlete to go bowls. No,

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Speaker 1: because I bowled gets A couple of seventy year olds

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Speaker 1: yesterday talked all kind of trash too. They did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who's the who's the famous bowler guy? He just

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Speaker 2: retired right? Well, yeah, he just retired, right He was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm him.

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Speaker 3: No, Pete Webby is him and said that's why I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, please do do that. So yeah, I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: that's that's a good bowling square.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of scared me a little bit because

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Speaker 4: I'm rusty. I haven't been out there as much.

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Speaker 1: Both to right, I can bowl to youall. I have

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Speaker 1: my own ball.

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Speaker 2: I don't have I just use one thing. But if

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Speaker 2: I do beat.

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Speaker 4: You, if you're not going, I was like, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: might I have to go out and give me a

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Speaker 4: game or two wins?

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Speaker 1: Bread is out there, get that work in. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm bowl That's just my leads. You're like if I need,

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Speaker 3: like if I'm having a scutch for day, I'm asked

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Speaker 3: that all the time.

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Speaker 4: What do I do for fun? And bowling was one

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Speaker 4: of them, Like I haven't done it in a while.

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Speaker 4: Now for fun, I'm riding the bike, working out or something,

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Speaker 4: you know, what I mean. But that's my fun. Like

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Speaker 4: I go bowl like normally when I take my kids

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going. Both we're going, and I'm the same way.

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Speaker 4: It's a great time because when I was young, I

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Speaker 4: we come from some of these kind of upbringings where

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Speaker 4: And so the way that we got out the house

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Speaker 4: is to go bowling or go skating. So those are

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Speaker 4: the two things that I down South, yep, you know

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Speaker 3: I call them beer anticified sports, meaning I could drink

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Speaker 3: beer and get better.

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Speaker 1: Like darts, darts, bowling, golf, corn hole, corn hole, corn hole.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you're getting better after a few beer. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: God, when you do golf tournaments, Let's say we had

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Speaker 3: ten of golf tournament.

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Speaker 1: By the third hole.

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Speaker 3: One of my eyes is closed, so I'm seeing in

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Speaker 3: the matrix.

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Speaker 1: I don't even see grants. I just see numbers.

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Speaker 4: That's actually when I get better because I can't golf

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Speaker 4: by the time I had the second round of that titos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just slapping that thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you think too much in golf, you

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Speaker 3: will feel so it takes the edge off.

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Speaker 1: And Jay challenged me to coin hole.

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Speaker 3: All right, but I learned how to play coin hole

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Speaker 3: by horseshoes, which horseshoes is harder to play the corn hole,

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Speaker 3: So defoe, I am a specialist?

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Speaker 2: Is it theave a comment if you think horse shoes

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Speaker 2: are harder than corn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you get the horseshoes hard.

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Speaker 2: Is that that? Yeah, I'm not saying horseshoes is easy,

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Speaker 1: It's harder than corn hole.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, what do you think, Jason, you're the expert.

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Speaker 5: I'm not an expert. Horseshoes is hard. I'm better than

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Speaker 5: Fred at cornhole.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not. We will see my.

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Speaker 5: Own corn hole boards like every Saturday.

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Speaker 1: For like somebody say I'm good at football, and I

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Speaker 1: made my own football. Nobody cared that you made a

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Speaker 2: What I will say Fred is you say you're good

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Speaker 2: at everything. That you say you're good at everything, There's

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Speaker 2: never been one thing where I'm like, you're like, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm okay at that.

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Speaker 3: And then some stuff when we were talking now, they

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Speaker 3: I'm not good at that.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know. Well, I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's He just said he

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Speaker 1: can play ping Pauls.

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Speaker 4: So that means he can play tennis tennis.

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Speaker 1: Every time every town.

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Speaker 2: We do that for our next contest, pickleball. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 5: You know, he's also very good at pickleball? Is intern Caroline?

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Speaker 2: Is she that's not surprised.

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Speaker 1: I thought she was good at soccer. I want to

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Speaker 2: Also, I was disappointed on that day were kicking field goals.

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Speaker 1: She was not good.

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Speaker 2: She was not good at kicking field goals. So she

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Speaker 5: Yeah, national champion.

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Speaker 1: I know she was probably she was on the team,

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Speaker 1: she was the start. Pretty good, She's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: She just disappointed.

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Speaker 1: We need to watch the field.

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Speaker 2: Watch do that tonight watching turn Caroline.

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Speaker 3: By the way, speaking of soccer, we did go to it, well,

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Speaker 3: I did. He was supposed to be there.

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Speaker 1: I went to I went to DC United.

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Speaker 3: Game, okay, and it was very good and just is

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Speaker 3: it such a different audi?

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Speaker 1: Oudy stated, such a.

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Speaker 3: Different football crowd, So I enjoyed it. A lot of

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Speaker 3: international people there. It's just the way they roared. And

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Speaker 3: I can say this about soccer. They get excited about

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Speaker 3: these smallest things. Deal yeah, because he's like, no scoring.

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Speaker 1: You can't get excited about goals, yea, up and down

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Speaker 1: the field.

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Speaker 3: So a guy put a little effort into a player

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Speaker 3: get a red card or something. The crowd, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: did I just miss something? And I'm just there like

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Speaker 3: ted least, so I'm just.

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Speaker 1: Let me enjoining it. But it was a it was

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Speaker 1: a good game, a good crowd. I loved it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's awesome. Intenda.

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Speaker 4: You didn't trying to rub it in that I didn't

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Speaker 4: show up, but I was. We both had events that

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Speaker 4: that that Saturday. I called him after my event, like, hey,

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Speaker 4: what time you go into the stadium?

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Speaker 1: That's the night?

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Speaker 4: Howse Like, I'm like, well, all right, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: go home. Call me on your way there.

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Speaker 1: He won. He didn't call me.

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Speaker 3: all right, But who had the better quarterback?

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Speaker 1: The kid the City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: That allowed them to have a back that does a

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Speaker 3: little less enough enough to get it done. So they

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Speaker 3: go to value tests right there. The value test is

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Speaker 3: one cannot put me on his back like the other

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Speaker 3: one can.

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Speaker 4: And often say the difference between that game was just

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Speaker 4: there's a quarterback that been there before that knows what

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Speaker 4: to do when the time is on the line, to say, okay,

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Speaker 4: all I need to make a couple of plays with

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Speaker 4: my feet to keep us going to get us in

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Speaker 4: you know, in position, and the rest should be history.

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Speaker 4: And that's how I look at that game, because if

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Speaker 4: you had to ask me who played to you the

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Speaker 4: better game, yeah, it would have been San fran I

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Speaker 4: feel like they had they played the best throughout that game,

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Speaker 4: just some key moments right.

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Speaker 1: Value right there to me.

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Speaker 2: And I think you mentioned Pacheco and attend you said

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Speaker 2: this too about how you have they're out there all

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Speaker 2: the time. But I do think running backs now are

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Speaker 2: getting more specialized. Yeah, and also I think Pachecko is

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Speaker 2: the reason. And who's the backup running back in San

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Speaker 2: Francisco Elijah Mitchell, Mitchell Mitch right, And you know Mitchell

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Speaker 2: is a sixth round pick. Pachecko is a seventh round pick.

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Speaker 2: Like look like Gus Edwards is on this list of

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Speaker 2: our notable free agency, he's a third round pick. Right,

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Speaker 2: you can find Chris Rodriguez is a great example, third

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Speaker 2: round pick. Ryan Robinson third round pick. And I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at the draft this year, there's no like Bijon Robinson,

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Speaker 2: Jami or Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: But there's a.

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Speaker 2: Bunch of good football players. So it's like, why do

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Speaker 2: I need to mortgage mortgage money on a position that

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Speaker 2: I can get for really and have a really big

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Speaker 2: impact on my team.

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Speaker 4: So my next question would be is when when whenever

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Speaker 4: one of these guys, the top guys gets signed, what

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Speaker 4: would be the what would be the line? And that's saying,

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Speaker 4: when it comes to there, you know who what the

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Speaker 4: value should be.

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. And so so for me, I

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Speaker 2: guess I'll go first if I if I'm an offensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator and I have a plan for this player. Like

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Speaker 2: let's say I'm Derrick Henry, right like, and I want

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Speaker 2: I really want Derrick Henry, and I've built my team

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Speaker 2: around having a power running back. Let's say, like Dallas

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Speaker 2: my example this, I'm going to be willing to pay

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Speaker 2: him a significant amount of money to get him in

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Speaker 2: there because it's part of my offensive identity, and I

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Speaker 2: have a vision for how to maximize his skill set,

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Speaker 2: right Or Like let's say, like who else is on

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Speaker 2: this list, like Josh Josh Jacobs again more of a

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Speaker 2: power back. Let's say say Saquon Barkley gives a better example.

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Speaker 2: Let's say I want to use him the way they

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Speaker 2: use Christian McCaffrey, and he's going to be a slot receiver.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be a back. He can do it

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Speaker 2: out mismatched weapon. We're going to get to empty with him,

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Speaker 2: We're going to hit him with screens. He's going to

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Speaker 2: get fifty percent of our touches. Yeah, and I go

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Speaker 2: back to what Kyle did with Christian mc caffrey. They

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Speaker 2: give him a ton of draft capital, they gave him

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Speaker 2: a contract exception. Everyone thought they were out of their minds.

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Speaker 2: But he had a plan. And so if I'm a

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Speaker 2: coordinator or a coaching staff or a gem and I've

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Speaker 2: got a vision for that player with that type of

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Speaker 2: dynamic athletic skill set, I'm gonna pay.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's let's find the perfect feet. Because when you

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Speaker 3: say sat Kuon Barking, the first thing came in my head.

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Speaker 3: What a beat of the overall? Like, oh, they can dominate.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Shanahan's oftfense with my guy in Miami ud.

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Speaker 3: Let's say we put Sa Kwon Barkley apported at Miami offense, Awesome.

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Speaker 1: I think he turns the page for them. But the

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Speaker 1: problem is that you got moist in them.

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Speaker 2: They got closer, they got a chane right.

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Speaker 1: And you know, go to perfect. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying like that's the thing is like Moster

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Speaker 2: was a fifth round pick, just like when you look

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Speaker 2: at the running back position, there are so many good players, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just coming to the draft company of the league every year,

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Speaker 2: you're like, look at the running back for the l A.

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Speaker 2: Rams Williams. They got from Notre Dame. Everyone he was

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Speaker 2: he was a fifth round pick. Yeah, and he led

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Speaker 2: almost let the leg rushing is.

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Speaker 4: This is this simplest So basically what's going on right

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Speaker 4: now is most of these guys who are coming in

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Speaker 4: in these great situations. Yeah, these offenses are basically allow

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Speaker 4: them to exploring their you know, their true natural talents.

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Speaker 4: There they sit in the market. Basically, they're actually saying

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Speaker 4: that I could just get on the team and be

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Speaker 4: dynamic within this offense. And that's the market because I

535
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Speaker 4: don't necessarily have to be that every down, you know, bulldozer.

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Speaker 1: Come in here and be talented on the outside and ins.

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Speaker 3: Dis similar to what happened in the NBA. I remember

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Speaker 3: when I looked at a center in the NBA and

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Speaker 3: they looked more like Shaq yeah and big Perk.

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Speaker 1: And now now because of.

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Speaker 3: The overseas, the way they talk to play is big men,

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Speaker 3: I need to be able to shoot, I need to

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Speaker 3: be the dribble now they all like Chit Holnggren and

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Speaker 3: like Winn Bana like so it's it's.

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Speaker 1: When it changed.

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Speaker 3: I think when the when the game changes, because I

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Speaker 3: really do think when it comes to playoffs, we go

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Speaker 3: right back to the run again.

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Speaker 2: You need it. It's still important. You look at teams,

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Speaker 2: every team in the playoff. Yeah, I don't think it's

551
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Speaker 2: a coincidence. Was very effective at running in the football.

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Speaker 2: Look at the Detroit Lions. They've got Montgomery who is

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Speaker 2: a very good player for them. He was a fourth

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Speaker 2: round pick. Right, there's just guy. There's just so many

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Speaker 2: guys available. James Connor for Arizona, the guy a third

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Speaker 2: round pick like that are you don't have to invest

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Speaker 2: a lot of draft capital, you don't have to invest

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Speaker 2: a lot of money, and it's hard. It's hard to

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Speaker 2: find guys like that. I think that that you know

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Speaker 2: are are like these that that have roles where they

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Speaker 2: need to be top end players, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I think just it ain't enough special running backs to

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Speaker 3: set the tone. Like I think it needs to be

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Speaker 3: like seven of them for them to really say he

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Speaker 3: go out value.

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Speaker 1: I think if we look at the lead right.

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Speaker 4: Now, but I think I think he made it a valid point. Man,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be guys that offenses allowed him to be

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Speaker 4: especially gonna say I'm gonna pay him that because of that.

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Speaker 4: And then it's gonna be guys, it's gonna be teams

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Speaker 4: that's gonna say, well, I don't need him to be

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Speaker 4: I don't need him to be McCaffrey or Henry. So

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Speaker 4: this is all I needed to be is to be

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Speaker 4: back in a backfield. So this is this is his rate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the other thing is is specifically

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Speaker 2: running back is so predicated on your offensive line and

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Speaker 2: blocking surface in general, you know, and utilizations. So like

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Speaker 2: I look at you know, I look at Philly. That's

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Speaker 2: a great example, Like you could you could put any

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Speaker 2: running back back there, damn you. I could play running

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Speaker 2: back for them because they just do such a good

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Speaker 2: job of christ be off I'm gonna de leverage that position.

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Speaker 2: But then I look at San fran and they've paid

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. They're not able to pay the offensive line

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Speaker 2: the same because Christian McCaffrey makes guys miss, you know,

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Speaker 2: he elevates them, and it's very hard to find that dynamic.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's just it's a it's an interesting

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Speaker 2: evolution of the position of the game. I think ultimately

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Speaker 2: that's why we're not seeing those guys make a ton

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Speaker 2: of money. It's there's a good, good, good players coming

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Speaker 2: out in college and the nature and the role of

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Speaker 1: And Cambler, I need help. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So in addition to running backs, you said something there

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Speaker 2: that I thought was really interesting, and it's about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: And we got the NFL Combine coming up. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: we've got a lot of guys, a lot of kind

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Speaker 2: of big name quarterbacks like you for for a draft.

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Speaker 1: You know, we got Kill.

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Speaker 2: Williams, Jade Daniels, Drake May, and then there's that kind

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Speaker 3: I want to say this, shame O'mary Hodges, Shame O'marrah.

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Speaker 3: Did you out here with Mary about Caleb ya know,

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Speaker 3: you know he's said about Drake May. What he said, No,

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Speaker 3: he said that he felt like Drake May was in

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Speaker 3: the first round draft picking they got ripping him apart

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Speaker 3: on sports MARYL.

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Speaker 2: Hodges said that about Drake May. And he also said

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Speaker 2: that thing about Caleb.

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Speaker 1: Yes, what about what he said about he.

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Speaker 2: Said, Caleb Williams is not special.

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Speaker 3: Yes, like Mary Hodge could be the hated I thought

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Speaker 3: it was Mayo Kuiper. But I think if your name,

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Speaker 3: Maryll even close, hate is in your blood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta fact check that.

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Speaker 3: But even half a bad guy on TV and said,

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Speaker 3: come on, Mayrill, like, let's.

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Speaker 2: Not do this because I so I saw someone because

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Speaker 2: like you know, he came out with the thing about

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Speaker 2: Caleb and he came out to thinking about Drake and

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Speaker 2: it was that Andyone's like, this guy is the worst quarterback.

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Speaker 4: We want to click bait man. That's one of that

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Speaker 4: is working.

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Speaker 1: And he hit it on the junkies? Did he yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Yes, said Drake may is not said Drake may is

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Speaker 2: not a first round pick.

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Speaker 1: Said he's not a first round pick. Not analytic as

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Speaker 1: you think.

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Speaker 3: I said, yes, he's two hundred two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: five pounds six for a running like he runs.

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Speaker 1: That's an athlete.

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Speaker 4: Look like me, I don't see what like this is

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Speaker 4: why I hate this time of year.

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Speaker 3: Like when you go through the comeback, when you go

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Speaker 3: through the draft process, they are not looking for reasons

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Speaker 3: to draft.

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Speaker 1: You're looking for reasons not to bring your value down.

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Speaker 3: It's just such a terrible time for at least to

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Speaker 3: see here.

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Speaker 4: I listened to none at the least tell the I mean,

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Speaker 4: we all go through that. When they get closer they

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Speaker 4: have a guy that's going to sit out there and

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Speaker 4: basically pick at everything about your game so it could

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Speaker 4: lower your value. Just so that's something that team that

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Speaker 4: wanted you in the first round can get you for

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Speaker 4: a little cheaper.

662
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: It goes on every year. It's terrible.

663
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 3: I think you know you don't tear you try to

664
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: tear people down with this stuff.

665
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: You got it, especially after I went out there and

666
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 4: showed the world what I could do.

667
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I mean to me, the

668
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: is always into putting.

669
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 4: If I put it on film, do me as that dude,

670
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 4: whatever I put on tape, view me as him.

671
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna say that out that.

672
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: Also, I think this is really relevant because we're gonna

673
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: talk about guys who are first just you got it.

674
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: I want to hear what he said.

675
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: You got it?

676
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got it.

677
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: Hate hate hate, all right.

678
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 5: There are a bunch of things that bother me. He's

679
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: talking about Drake.

680
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: Okay, every prospect for things, every process.

681
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 5: Here's the list. He's extremely inconsistent his accuracy and processing

682
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 5: or inconsistent. He misses hot routes. He's not extremely athletic,

683
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 5: and I find him stiff. He's got a large throwing

684
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 5: motion with which allows more hits in our league than

685
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 5: he would have in college.

686
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: And I'm just bothered, Mercy. They look he just bother

687
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: it because his wife kicked him out. What it sound like.

688
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: It's sound like he.

689
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: Woke up and chose violence, like it woke up and

690
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 3: just hate hate, hate or something.

691
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It's funny.

692
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: Those things bother me too, though, But there's also so

693
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: like you're saying, Tanna, there's also like a whole another

694
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: bucket of stuff that offsets that. And I think that's

695
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: the thing. Fans, if you're listening to this, please heed this.

696
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: There are things you can find wrong with everybody.

697
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: Person. Thing is a perfect prospect because.

698
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: Remember it's not a one to one. The NFL and

699
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: college football are not the same, right, It's a projection.

700
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: So you're projecting how this guy is going to be.

701
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: Same thing with Jane Daniels. Do I think they're both

702
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: good football players? Yes, who's going to be the better

703
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: pro I don't know. Nobody The problem knows is the

704
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: NFL has no idea. They're terrible at it. So in

705
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: the spirit of this of picking things that guys are

706
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: not good at, we've got the quarterbacks we're talking about

707
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: Jane Daniels, Kayla Williams, Marvin Harrison Junior, and possibly Drake

708
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: may are not doing anything outside of the interviews at

709
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: the combine. If you were first reaction to that, doesn't matter.

710
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Is it a big deal I have my thoughts.

711
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter.

712
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I've been in no shoes when you have

713
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: the kind of leverage that most of those guys have. Yep,

714
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 4: back when I did it in O one, the pro

715
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 4: day wasn't the the it thing. Your pro day wasn't

716
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 4: it thing. It was like, come to the combine. Oh,

717
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: I remember having the guys in my ear, some of

718
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: those scouts, Well, this is the first this is the

719
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: only time you're gonna get to see me.

720
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: Well, this is the only time I'm gonna get to

721
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: compare you against all these other guys.

722
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if I'm coming back down to

723
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 4: Miami and I'm sitting up there like, well, you're gonna

724
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 4: miss the show, you know what I mean.

725
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: But it was leverage. It was all about leverage, you know.

726
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 4: So we had designated a safe I guess you could

727
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: say a safe haven that we could come here and

728
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: shrut our stuff because we was that kind of a team.

729
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 1: And everybody's gonna come down.

730
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Miami, and all our things that we did testing

731
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 4: wise was already graded because of other guys from other

732
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 4: schools that have come and who don't get invited to

733
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: the combines. They was coming doing their pro days at

734
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 4: our school. So when we knew that we was approved

735
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 4: by the NFL to use these measurements from forty from

736
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 4: the vertical jump all that stuff, We're like, okay, so

737
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: why would we go to combine. We go to Combine,

738
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 4: we'll we'll talk to the interview blah, and then we'll

739
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: come here and do the same stuff that these other

740
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 4: guys who wasn't allowed to go to pro I mean

741
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: to the combine, who took their tests here.

742
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: And that's why we did it.

743
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: But now as everyone has, everyone has a pro day,

744
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: So why is it a big problem?

745
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Like to Tanni's point, I think that's

746
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: exactly right. Like so at the combine, like you know,

747
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: Jason and I have gone the last couple of years.

748
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: You know, I've never gotten as a player, but I

749
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: have guys that go, like guys that I've trained that go,

750
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: and it is not set up for you to be

751
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: physically successful now, So What I mean by that is

752
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: like they'll keep you up until ten thirty at night

753
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: nine and it is I got to go to the hospital,

754
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: get my mri. It's eleven twelve o'clock.

755
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: Forget the eye.

756
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: I gotta go get like paints of blood, tut my bone,

757
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: marrow chick. And then you're gonna give me some chocolate

758
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 3: and tell me to run a forty. And that's not

759
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: doing that, So.

760
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 4: Take a long thick ass book tests and then talking

761
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: all right, not go out here and run, like my

762
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 4: mind gone, I ain't ready to go.

763
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 2: So they don't care about your performance there. I mean,

764
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: they want the number, they want the information. But like

765
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: I remember, I've been talking to my guys last year

766
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: there or two years ago, the tight end guys that

767
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: I was working with, and I was like, oh wait,

768
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: so they got you. I was it was eleven o'clock

769
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: at night and they were just getting out of their

770
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: physical yeah, And I was like, Okay, what do you

771
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: got tomorrow? You'll be able to sleep in a little bit.

772
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: They're like, no, I got to get up at seven

773
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: o'clock because I got.

774
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: To go back to the hospital. And I was like what.

775
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: And then I'm like then you're gonna do then, So

776
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: the way this is two years ago, then you had

777
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: to bench press before you ran forty, which I would

778
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: never do. So why why even risk not putting your

779
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: best foot forward, especially if you've got the leverage right if.

780
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: You're if you're the top three in year old position

781
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: coming out had to come back.

782
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: I did all my interviews.

783
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: You should should do, that's important.

784
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything. My age was like, it ain't

785
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: nothing you need to do speak for itself.

786
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: So like for Marvin Harrison Junior, for example, when you

787
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: watch the film, if I'm his agent, I'm like, the

788
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: only thing that can happen if.

789
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: You go is go down.

790
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: It's bad is you run a four or five and

791
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: then you're not as fast as people think. And Molik

792
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: Neighbors comes out and runs a fourteen.

793
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: Home a doomsday come come out him run a faux fo.

794
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: And so you know, this reminds me of like last

795
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: year or two years ago with Drake London, Like everyone

796
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: wanted Drake London to run and he was like, I'm

797
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: not gonna run, and everyone's like he might be slow,

798
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: and it's like he can either you can either think

799
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 2: he's slow or he can actually run, and then you

800
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: know he's slow, So why do I want that? And

801
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: it's like he and he was still a top top

802
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: twelve take. Yeah, he was a second receiver taken, which

803
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm okay with, right, Yeah, And but if he goes

804
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: out and runs a four to six, he might not

805
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: go in the first run. Yeah, Like you know what

806
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, that's kind of what you're talking about,

807
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: So why even bother?

808
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: We will it?

809
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: And we're talking about a select group of guys here,

810
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: Like you know, this is mark. I'm telling Marvin Harrison

811
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: the cleanest receiver evaluation I've ever had.

812
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna be a good pro. Don't do anything anything.

813
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: But if you're if you're key On Coleman from Florida State,

814
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: Oh doue, Johnny Wilson, you gotta go, Julie, right, go

815
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: put on a show and like move up the board, right,

816
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: show people that you got value. And so for the quarterbacks,

817
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: let's talk about them real quick. I mean to me,

818
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: it's like, obviously don't do it, right, I.

819
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: Mean I think so too.

820
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 4: When it comes to the quarterbacks, they want more of

821
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: those guys to give you got something to do. Who's

822
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: sitting there and watching in the stand study. The more

823
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: quarterbacks we have there, especially premiere guys, we get to

824
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: see see what these guys got going on. And we're

825
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: not just up here talking about where we're goin to

826
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: go have a drink at later on, you know what

827
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: I mean? I see those quarterbacks, man, and to me, honestly,

828
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: I've been why I pay close attention to the draft

829
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 4: more so now than I did back when I was

830
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: playing bro. I would refuse to sit there and be

831
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: waiting in line after all these other guys just so

832
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 4: I can say you can grade me.

833
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: That ain't how you're going to really get graded, you

834
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

835
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 4: That's not a that's not a true assessment on what

836
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to be as a player.

837
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

838
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: It goes back to that thing like you're looking for

839
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: things to pick at, Like as an evaluator, we go

840
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: like last year, all the quarterbacks through because it wasn't

841
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: a very good year, and so you got to see

842
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: will Levis throw after Stroud after you know Richardson, right,

843
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: and you're like, Richardson's not very accurate, or will Lewis

844
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: doesn't layer three, and you're like oh, and it was

845
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: really not. It was really easy to go like, oh,

846
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: like this is great, but ultimately it's not about me.

847
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: It's about the kid man.

848
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: And I always say grading me, how you grading me?

849
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: Because forty this all fine? Bench press? This all fied.

850
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: I was looking the other day and they showed that

851
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: the highest bench presses all time.

852
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: One guy did fifty to fifty a time. They was

853
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: all bad football player.

854
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: Like I looked down in the list and I said, now,

855
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: one of these guys ain't have a career, get being

856
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: a pro bowler, ain't to have a turn on some film,

857
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: Like I'm so tired of everybody wants you to test

858
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: you about how fast you are?

859
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: Are you a football player? Is the only thing that mattered.

860
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 4: To the same way with the guys who hasn't performed

861
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: for four years or a few years that runs fast forties,

862
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: Like I've always found it like alarming that you're going

863
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 4: to say because this guy ran for one, Yeah, I'm

864
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 4: going to jump him in front of all these guys

865
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: who have better films. Yes, Like honestly he ran for

866
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: one before he got Yeah, he was on the white

867
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: him running show me on tape, him keeping up with

868
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: a guy all past you know, show me that on film.

869
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: So that's one of the things I talk about. I

870
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: love the fact that when I went to the University

871
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 4: of Miami, everyone came from the pros. All the coaching

872
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 4: staff prepared us as we was professionals. They told us

873
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 4: what to be ready for. They told us, like, we

874
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: got it to run our routes. We round every route

875
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 4: in college we had. Our tree was all round, round round.

876
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: CJ say, okay, here's the route tree for the league.

877
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: We gonna come out our breaks. I mean he he

878
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: basically made us stop we did for four years and

879
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: said this is how they're going to grade you. So

880
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 4: now we got to plant and go sharp out of everything.

881
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: But when we got there to the thing, the guy like, oh,

882
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: get me a round. I just went and did all

883
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 4: this other stuff.

884
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: But we was prepared, you see what I'm saying.

885
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 4: So that's why I say, I look at certain things

886
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 4: and I'm like, man, these guys were so much, you know,

887
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 4: more than just good coaches, because they had us prepare

888
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: for everything that the pros was going to want to

889
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 4: see from us. And when you get a guy out

890
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 4: there and he goes bunkers in a damn damn workout.

891
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, he deserved to be a gold gym.

892
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: That's what goal gym full of these guys like I

893
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: have something that just solidifies everything we were talking about.

894
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: I didn't work out it the comeby. I worked out

895
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 1: at Missippi State.

896
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: Everybody knowed the old legend of Fred Smooth during the

897
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: bench press.

898
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: One time. I did the bench press one time with

899
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: these long.

900
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: Arms and I racked it and I told him, you

901
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: ain't come here for a body building you came here

902
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: for a football player.

903
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: Follow me.

904
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: I went out there, ran my drills, backpedal, ran my

905
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: forty Oh now you're slobbing at the mouth because now

906
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 3: you see that on grass.

907
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: That's where I belong, not in your weight room.

908
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, I always asks, guy,

909
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: do you want guys that's pretty getting off the bus?

910
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: Are you want guy that's pretty? For four quarters?

911
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: And just to get everybody calm down a little bit.

912
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Most scouts you talk to, eighty five ninety of it

913
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: is the film, Like you know, it's the majority of

914
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 2: that is the film. The thing that Combine does is

915
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: it gets you. It lets you know the athlete a

916
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: little bit better. Like are you like, I think Kwan

917
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: is a good example, right, Like this is you know,

918
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 2: he didn't run a super fast forty, but his vertical

919
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: was like forty four inches. His broad jump was good.

920
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: So you're like, even though he's not maybe the fastest guy,

921
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: he's explosive. He can jumping still out of trouble, and

922
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: that's supported by the film. The thing is when you

923
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: see someone really fast and you're like, that wasn't support

924
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: of the film. Maybe go back and watch. It's like

925
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: trailing Burks last year or two years ago, Like everyone

926
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: thought he's gonna run a four three, comes out and

927
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: runs like a four to six or something. Right, it

928
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: wasn't very good, and so everyone goes like, oh, and

929
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: that's and that's a good part of the process because

930
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: when you look at him in the league, it is

931
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: a hard time separating because it then't have the juice

932
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: Kaneil Harry ran like a four to six set like five, Right,

933
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a hard time separating. And so that's

934
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: where you use that as kind of like, you know,

935
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: let me go back and just double check the film.

936
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: Does it support this what I'm seeing here? Or is

937
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: he okay? Like and now teams. This is the other thing.

938
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Teams have so much GPS data from the pads. Like

939
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: you know, Marvin Harrison Junior, he hit twenty three miles

940
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: an hour last year or twenty two miles an hour

941
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: twenty two point five, so I know he's fast in

942
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: the field. And so again if I'm if I'm Marvin Harrison,

943
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: and there's a pro reason to back and do that,

944
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: So I mean there are benefits. And again what I

945
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: talk about benefits of doing at the prode. For me

946
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: just thinking about it, it's like I could sleep my

947
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: own bed, get my own quarterback to throw to me. Right,

948
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: I'm not in the n Yeah, I'm not at the

949
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: combine where I'm like in line waiting for my one

950
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 2: rep from a quarterback that I've never caught a ball

951
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: from my life. Who's Yeah, he probably throwing a short

952
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 2: because he's trying to show off his arm. He's trying

953
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: to show stuff off too. So to me, it's just

954
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: like if you could, if you've got the clout to

955
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: do it at your prode and you're not like that. Again,

956
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: I think top three is a really good number there, right,

957
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: If you're not one of those top three guys.

958
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, like just live your best life. But you guys

959
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: don't know this.

960
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: But we will be at the combine take of the

961
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: Draft podcast which is on this podcast network. We will

962
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: give you all the insight. We'll kind of go over

963
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: all this drill work and we'll give you the context

964
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: that you want say is this relevant to the film?

965
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: Is this not relevant to the film, and kind of

966
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: give that insight because the guys, those guys that aren't

967
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: going to test well, like a lot two, lot too,

968
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: lot too, lot too from UCLA not gonna test well. Yeah,

969
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: I don't really care because his films.

970
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: Are At first I've been say like I don't care,

971
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: like this certain stuff like my homeboy Antonio Peers did

972
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: not get drafted that year when we came out one

973
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: of the best landbackers in our draft. Why he didn't

974
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: run well. He did not run well, but you can't

975
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 3: test his mental.

976
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 4: Reggie Wayne ran in for six, he really and he

977
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: and everybody was trying. He was trying as hard as

978
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 4: to get it to be a four, four or five

979
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: eleven or four or five. And you know, I remember CJ.

980
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: You know, our receiver coach. He just did a podcast

981
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 4: and now listen to me He was like, I'm gonna

982
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 4: just gonna be honest with you. Reggie went in for six,

983
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 4: But that ain't that I told Reggie Jay Rush ranning

984
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: for six, So don't be mad about that, you.

985
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

986
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 4: And you look at Reggie Wayning career, I'm like, Reggie,

987
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: we didn't know you as a fast guy anyway. You

988
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 4: caught a BB in the dark every game, you can

989
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: catch better than anybody in the game. So you you

990
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 4: that's what you're grading with certain guys. You wanna come

991
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 4: into that combine or come into that pro day say,

992
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: I'm not looking for him to be speed runner. Oh,

993
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: looking for him to show me everything that I saw

994
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: on film now in this form.

995
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: The interview, the gauntlet drill. The other thing I want

996
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: to just point this is for young receivers, for guys

997
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: coaching track. When you're running a forty, you're running the

998
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: track right and your feet get really narrow, right, they

999
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: get right under it, right under your hips. That's the

1000
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: whole idea, Right, we're trying to gain round vertically into

1001
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: that into that drill. If you look at good route runners,

1002
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: they run with their feet a little farther apart. Yeah,

1003
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and so that's not maximal

1004
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: velocity in a beach.

1005
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: I don't ever run like a track guy. I'm a chaser. Yes,

1006
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 3: I chase the Santana mouses of the world.

1007
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: Show me you have the ability to chase, and I

1008
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: show you a good defensive back.

1009
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: And you mentioned Antonio Pierce. And this leads perfectly into

1010
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: our next segment, which is a two thousand and one

1011
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: NFL redraft. And Tonio Pierce was in that draft right

1012
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: along with two other guys, namely it is I it

1013
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: is high and.

1014
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: Fred smoot right and I am him.

1015
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: And so we're gonna redrafted. And so basically we were like, oh,

1016
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: let's pick one quarterback, one pass catcher, one defensive player,

1017
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: and then two wild cards. The problem is, there's not

1018
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: like that many good.

1019
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks never is in a draft like this is a

1020
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 3: We got three quarterbacks at the top of this draft

1021
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: this year.

1022
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: Plus you got Bo Knicks, Michael Penix, you got guys.

1023
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: You got Rattler, Yeah, you got guy. He's in this draft.

1024
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: Like That's why I tell people drafts are up and down.

1025
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 6: Man.

1026
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: And I could say this about my one draft special

1027
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: special lots of talent.

1028
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: Well and I think, yeah, it just shows you like

1029
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: some of these guys like Antonio appears is on this list.

1030
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: We got undrafted player, right, Tim Hasselback, undrafted player was

1031
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: a solid pro for a couple of years. And I

1032
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: think Seve Smith, where was he drafted? You remember? Second round?

1033
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: Like think about that, like the good.

1034
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: Football players that Chad didn't go to?

1035
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: What the third Okay, so.

1036
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: For rules, let's do this, so we snake draft. For

1037
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: the stake draft is we go down the list, the

1038
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: person that thing gets to go twice right and then

1039
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: we go back the other way. So in terms of

1040
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: how we're going to start this, we flipped a coin

1041
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: or I just did this in my head.

1042
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: That we were going left and right. Nah, we're going

1043
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: to flip a coin.

1044
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: Jason says, pick a number one, one, O, two, three.

1045
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 4: Goddamn Okay, oh yeah, how we going this way?

1046
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1047
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: So why do I feel like that just was the

1048
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: most rotten this thing I have seen on live TV?

1049
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: So for me, I get to go first. I'm picking

1050
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: a quarterback because the aren't that many good ones. I'm

1051
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: gonna get out of the way. I feel really good

1052
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: about this. Drew Brees, my second round player, Hall of Famer.

1053
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: Let's get them in the building.

1054
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: Man, he's gonna set our culture. Feeling really good about it.

1055
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: I love that well.

1056
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I'm going quarterback right behind you.

1057
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: Have you ever met Drew Brees?

1058
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: Yes, good class, make play ball. I was supposed to

1059
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: go to Purdue with Drew Brees in college.

1060
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, Drew is a great dude. Now, he did have

1061
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: a squirrel growing out his face.

1062
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: That is a true thing, but also sneaky small squirrel

1063
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: sneaky small guy. You know what I'm saying, He's not

1064
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: big at all because I remember when we played, you

1065
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: play against Orleans. You see him do his like crazy

1066
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: comprehensive warm up where he does like his he does

1067
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: like a live two minute before calisthetics. Yeah, and he

1068
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: like does the He's like you'll see him point through

1069
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: his reads and he's very detailed. But like that's true.

1070
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 4: He's the nerves of all nerves, that quarterback. Like I

1071
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: thought Kirk was one of those nerves. Yeah, Drew was

1072
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 4: like Drew up be like, oh yeah, he's there. He

1073
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 4: knows the game. Like it's like, you know, he can

1074
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 4: probably close his eyes and know who to hit the

1075
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: hot red. You know what I mean like he was

1076
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 4: just one of those guys. I love watching him and

1077
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 4: people don't. People for the realize, man, how good he

1078
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 4: was in San Diego. Yeah, I got a chance to

1079
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 4: go against those guys when they was real good. L

1080
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 4: Dan he was there and Drew was there all draft class.

1081
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 4: It was two thousand and four playoffs, first round. I

1082
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 4: was with the Jets. We go to San Diego. I

1083
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 4: love playing Sane me too. For some reason, I scored

1084
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 4: the first game I had my I had a pub

1085
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 4: return return in San Diego a year two.

1086
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: But we go up there.

1087
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 4: It's no way were gonna beat these guys.

1088
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: They are on a high.

1089
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 4: I mean San Diego Chargers are playing well, you got breeze,

1090
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 4: you got you got l T and we won. I

1091
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 4: guess it was who was hurt me gam I'm not

1092
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: he didn't get hurt that game. I had Jammer covering

1093
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 4: me at corner Quinn jam in Texas.

1094
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: I had one hundred and uh some yards. I had

1095
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: a touchdown that game.

1096
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 4: It was like one of those games I'll never forget

1097
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 4: because I tore I tweaked my hamstring on the Wednesday

1098
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 4: going into the pre Bro and I tweaked my handstream windsday,

1099
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 4: and I remember the coaching staff disgusted. We play Saturday,

1100
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 4: and I'm sitting there like, bro the hell, I'm gonna

1101
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 4: go out here and play. And to the greatest of God, boy,

1102
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: I went out there and put on the show. I mean,

1103
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: I got a device that day, and I made sure

1104
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 4: my didn't did everything I could do. But no, it's

1105
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 4: one of those games I remember so y'all. So I'm

1106
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: going second. Since he got Drew.

1107
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: Brees, I just always get to man, I got I

1108
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: have to.

1109
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 4: Take Mike Vick, which I don't have no problem with doing.

1110
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 4: You know, if I was a receiver on his team,

1111
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 4: I have probably a problem because Mike was throwing that

1112
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: ball entirely too odd early in his career.

1113
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna take Mike Vick, all right, who you

1114
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: going with? You get two picks?

1115
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: I do ro so I get to it's a snake.

1116
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: All right.

1117
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: I ain't got to go quarterback because y'all right, No,

1118
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: I choose with my number one pick, Li Danty.

1119
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: And Toomas Dude.

1120
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: I love that one. He was awesome, man. People were like, yeah,

1121
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: he like how dominant he was.

1122
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: He was just a running back. Whatever you needed him

1123
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: to do. He could get it. It's smooth.

1124
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: But also when you're talking about running backs earlier, like

1125
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: he's the guy that kind of set the market, but

1126
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: also set the market and set the standard for the

1127
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: new running backs. Right either way, he caught the football

1128
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: the way he could beat the linebacker one on one coverage,

1129
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: like you the special in that way.

1130
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: All right, And my next pick, I choose Fred Smoot

1131
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: from the University of Missisi State.

1132
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: These two guys, him and Ladanian.

1133
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: Got MVP of the Senior Bowl together, so I make

1134
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: I had to merge them back together.

1135
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: Right there, I'm looking at talent.

1136
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: It was a little hot, a little high for I

1137
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,479
Speaker 2: understand what you're just saying.

1138
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: It's all about what value you see.

1139
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: It's true, it's true. So Tenna, what you got?

1140
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: Where's your goal? Now?

1141
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: You know it's you, So we kind of okay, So well.

1142
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 4: We're going past Catcher. So I'm going to pick myself.

1143
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: I actually was gonna pick you.

1144
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 4: So see, I'm going I'm going Tanne Man himself.

1145
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: Because Tana in today's NFL really works. That would be

1146
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: so sick.

1147
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I mean, I mean, I got it's crazy

1148
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 4: because I look at this, I look at this, this

1149
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 4: draft group of wide receivers. It's two guys that we

1150
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: don't have on there. Who went who went before me?

1151
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 4: Is your boy from sat read David Terrell and my

1152
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 4: man from Seattle Corn Robin Robinson, which was exceptionally you know,

1153
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: was the receivers. David Terrell's career then panned out to

1154
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: be what it was. He went to Chicago. But the

1155
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 4: reason why I brain is up because if you if

1156
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 4: you want to go back, you know, don't quote me,

1157
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 4: just go back and look it up. I was told

1158
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 4: when I was coming out that if I was called,

1159
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: if I was taller, I would have been the first

1160
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: receiver taking in that class.

1161
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: So I'm tall.

1162
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 4: I'm five nine and a half on a good day,

1163
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 4: five ten. So you know, I say five ten, but

1164
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 4: I might find nothing to have. So I look back

1165
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: at him like it's crazy because different strokes for different folks.

1166
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 4: If you look at where I'm going at you know

1167
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: what I mean. If I was taller, be going to Chicago,

1168
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I'm just saying I

1169
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 4: went to New York and that wasn't.

1170
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: All that good. But it's all about where you placed. Man.

1171
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 4: It's all about where you land, and you look at

1172
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: some of these careers. Man, for Chad to be letting,

1173
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 4: you know, in Cincy, that was a great spot for him,

1174
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: great spoff, you know. For for Steve to go to Carolina,

1175
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 4: that was a great spot.

1176
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: You know, that's reasy to go.

1177
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 4: To the coach, that was a perfect spot. So it's

1178
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 4: all about where you Lamb.

1179
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: I'm really glad you brought that up, Ton, because like

1180
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: everyone's talking about these draft picks, and we talked about,

1181
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: you know, for for twenty twenty four, right the draft

1182
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: this year, and like you know, who's the better prospect

1183
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: in this but the kind of the bigger issues to

1184
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: fit in the plan, you know what I mean? And

1185
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: I think this list shows you that. Yeah, you know,

1186
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: to a t there, So am I picking up?

1187
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe pick Okay, So I'm glad you too.

1188
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm glad you picked yourself, by the way, because I

1189
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: was I was on the fence. It was between you

1190
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: and Steve Smith. So you made it pretty easy for me.

1191
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: Somebody go Steve Smith. Feel pretty good about that.

1192
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 5: The Fred Smooth Killer.

1193
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Fred Smooth Killer, because if we're in the

1194
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: same division, I need a guy that can just crush, right.

1195
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: Hey, First of all, I played against Steve around ten

1196
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: times out Fred, which is which is Hey, No, I

1197
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 3: play Steve like eight times out of the eight times

1198
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: he got me one time like he does on time

1199
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: he shredded me one game.

1200
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the you know the game.

1201
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 4: That we all was paying at because he would talk

1202
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 4: to somewhere that game.

1203
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, not mad at to Steve s

1204
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: not mad. But now I'm gonna one up. He know,

1205
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: I gotta get get to It's a snake draft, dude.

1206
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: Have you ever done a state a right?

1207
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna go with my auxiliary pick here, which

1208
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: is like kind of your wild card, and I'm gonna

1209
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: go Steve Hutchinson, who's maybe the best offensive line I

1210
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: played with in Minnesota, maybe the best offensive lin of

1211
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: history of NFL.

1212
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 7: Okay, so now you liked it, dude, he's like, I mean,

1213
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 7: Hutchison with that dude pretty gosh don good, like like

1214
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 7: when you look at like him compared And maybe it's

1215
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 7: because he was playing at a time where he was

1216
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 7: like so far ahead everybody.

1217
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta know how he does today. He probably

1218
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: maybe he's a little bit more normal, but he was

1219
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: like the best guard in football for fifteen years. Yeah,

1220
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying. And it wasn't even

1221
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: it was like kind of like Trent is now the tackles.

1222
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: That's how he was.

1223
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: Then he played with Walter Jones right in uh Seattle.

1224
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: And Seattle, but in Minnesota he played with big mc McKinney.

1225
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: Just pass, just going to from the good tackle to

1226
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 2: good tackle. So I think he's great. So that that's

1227
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: to me, he's the best player available remaining. Yeah, so

1228
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Steve Hutchins.

1229
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: Okay, nice to me.

1230
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: Your nerves.

1231
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 4: Too, though, So I'm going with Next would be Richard Seymour.

1232
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: I think, you know, you need defense in this game.

1233
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 4: I mean, can't just pick all these offensive guys, you know.

1234
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 4: So Seymour was a guy that I thought highly of,

1235
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 4: washing them a lot in college, got into the pros

1236
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 4: and I saw him twice a year.

1237
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: I was with the Jets.

1238
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 4: He was, he was, He was in New England, and

1239
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 4: this dude dominated from the start. I mean it was

1240
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 4: no question why, no question, It was no question why

1241
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 4: to me that New England Patriots the earlier Super Bowls.

1242
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 4: You got to credit the defense and the kicking game

1243
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: or than so Tom Brady, but Tom got him there. Yeah,

1244
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 4: but they won those games with kicking field goals and

1245
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: that defense was just stout and he was one of

1246
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 4: the reasons.

1247
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: Well, don't forget about his running potn in college, Marcus. Yeah,

1248
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: that's that's what I drive.

1249
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I draft tool.

1250
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: No, he went to Georgia. To Georgia, they was on

1251
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: the same details.

1252
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: That's crazy, man.

1253
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: They had Kendre of Bailly lineback Lady Jackson j Henderson, right, yeah,

1254
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: j E. J.

1255
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: Henderson went to Maryland.

1256
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: No, no, the who's the defensive tackle for Jacksonville.

1257
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about John Henderson?

1258
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: But you know those two big yeah.

1259
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,959
Speaker 1: Yeah. Alright. With my next pick, I choose a brother

1260
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: from my own heart, mister Chad. That's who I want.

1261
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: Silkie Johnson himself taking him off the market, got my

1262
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: wife out. I know, eventually I might have to pick

1263
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: a quarter You don't do it.

1264
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: Now, though, because no one's going to pick a quarterback,

1265
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 2: so you can pick it with your last.

1266
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: Pick, brotherly Yeah. Probably. Yeah. So now with my next pick,

1267
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,959
Speaker 1: considering that most of the Hall of Famers are gone,

1268
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: I choose my running mate, my more enemy.

1269
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: We was the enemy in high school. We went to

1270
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: rival colleges. It was deuce for Heisman, it was.

1271
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 4: Smooth for Highsue, that's a great love.

1272
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: That deuce was a deuce could return punts. Where do

1273
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: you go to school?

1274
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 2: Oh?

1275
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 3: Miss him King Lucas, all them tears Metcalf, DK Metcalf Daddy,

1276
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 3: all of them was on the same team.

1277
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: He played on line though. Right, yes, that's crazy, dude,

1278
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: that's that's a good. That's a that's a solid little

1279
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: group right there. Budd Well actually have two running backs,

1280
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 2: so right.

1281
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. But I must say this for my

1282
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: Mississippi people. That year coming out of Mississippi, twelve of

1283
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: us got drafted off Mississippi Old miss and us two

1284
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: running backs.

1285
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: Wait, I gotta get the players that because I ain't

1286
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: got no quarterback, I'm had to run them out.

1287
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: But l T I mean, is too good? Good? Depends

1288
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: on what you got.

1289
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 5: I got a question, Fred, all right, you have any

1290
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 5: stories of you and Chad going at it with each

1291
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 5: other because you're both big person.

1292
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 4: Yes, sorry, going it's a it's a clip. Yeah, that

1293
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 4: they've been playing for the last couple there, like me

1294
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 4: and Chad.

1295
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: I can say this about Chad. Chad is a fun

1296
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: trash talk like you got some guys this serious, then

1297
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 1: you got some games.

1298
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: He ready to fight coming out of the locker room.

1299
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 3: Chad more jokingly just joking like me. So I remember

1300
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 3: when we was at the Senior Bowl. I keep hearing

1301
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: these chirps on the other end because Bill Coway is

1302
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: my head coach, and he like, it's a guy over

1303
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 3: there working people. N Ain't Chad just you want to

1304
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 3: go over I was like, Coach, I got my bag

1305
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 3: with me, baby, So they took me from the South practice,

1306
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 3: brought me to the North practice so me and Chad could.

1307
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: Do one on ones with each other. We can do

1308
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 1: teens thrill with each other. You're looking at the king

1309
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: him anyway. I can say this coming out of cuts.

1310
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody quicker than Chad man Like he cut true

1311
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: his feet man, but his feet are unbelievable.

1312
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 4: Man Like I'm sorry, Like he has feet of a

1313
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 4: bad I will say, you know, I don't like to

1314
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 4: my horn, but I turned. I would say this about

1315
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 4: Chad though he did he emphasized his I just did it.

1316
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like when it came to

1317
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 4: just doing stuff at the line of scrimmage. I wasn't

1318
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 4: doing that. Chad was the best line of scream.

1319
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: He was like the first guy that I remember to

1320
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: your point and then actually did.

1321
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 3: All the stuff that they tell you to do, like yeah,

1322
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: but he don't run routes to get to spots like

1323
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: so if you're chasing him, this route could be this, this, this, this,

1324
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: but he gonna get to the point where he's gonna

1325
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: get the ball.

1326
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how Travis Kelsey does it. Now, Yes,

1327
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: relationship with the quarterback is so.

1328
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 4: My next pick, My next pick is none other than

1329
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 4: my road dog back together Reggie Wayne saying, I thought

1330
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 4: you're gonna go Bruce Wayne. Yeah, bad Reggie Wayne Man

1331
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 4: talking about guy catching the BB and the dog. Reggie

1332
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 4: one of those guys. You know, he's up the Hall

1333
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 4: of Fame to last what.

1334
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: Four five years?

1335
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll get this call. I know, deep down inside

1336
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: Reggie pissed. But look, man, it's gonna he it's I mean, well,

1337
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 4: arguably right now, what top ten?

1338
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1339
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 4: I think he's top ten when it comes to all

1340
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 4: all those guys up there. Now, I think he's nine. No,

1341
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 4: matter of fact, he's nine, and if I'm not mistaken,

1342
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 4: Andre is ten. Andre got called before him.

1343
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: So it hurt him so bad. Yeah, but you know what,

1344
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: it's a little different.

1345
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 4: And I'm not the guy to tell you who should

1346
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: get picked for the Hall of Fame or not, because

1347
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 4: I don't understand how they do it. But when you

1348
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 4: look at all the players, and you look at who

1349
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 4: dre had, but it was just him, so I guess

1350
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 4: that's why they gave him a note. But Reggie gonna

1351
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 4: be in there without a doubt. And it'd be good

1352
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 4: to say if we ever played again together, it probably

1353
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 4: wouldn't be good because I know Reggie. He ain't want

1354
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 4: to share that ball of the time, and he played

1355
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 4: with a guy who he wanted to shit the ball

1356
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 4: with him and Marvin, so he made up himself. It

1357
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 4: was funny to see that he went to a guy

1358
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 4: that treated him like he treated me.

1359
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but no, I.

1360
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: Love to get a guy like Reggie the you know,

1361
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 2: and this will be the last round, right, your last

1362
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: two picks, so I need help guys, best defensive player

1363
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 2: from your class because this is where I wanted to

1364
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: pick Fred, But Fred picked himself in the first round,

1365
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: aren't you let No one saying but like is the

1366
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: gardens lists that were not there? We're not thinking because

1367
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 2: you mentioned.

1368
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: In all Chris Jenkins, Damn Morgan, Damn Morgan. Who's then

1369
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: he's a GM? Now for Carolin? Yeah, I mean, yeah,

1370
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: he's a gym. What's the name bell? Who else I'm

1371
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: thinking about? Think about defensive guys.

1372
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 2: So who's better a Wilson Chris, Chris Jenkins or Shawn Rodgers.

1373
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a good one, great one.

1374
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: Chris got hurt, Yeah he got hurt, but he was

1375
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 2: his peak was better, better than.

1376
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: But Seawn just played at the same level for a

1377
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: long time.

1378
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 4: We ain't put your boy in there too. Safety from Cowboys.

1379
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: Oh Roy Roy Rock came out a year after us.

1380
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: It was with us, No Rock came out of here.

1381
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: I remember Adrian, he.

1382
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: Was good. I think, uh playing in Arizona all them years.

1383
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Sean Rogers. I think here,

1384
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't love that pick, but I think

1385
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: it's gonna fill in these and be healthy for a

1386
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: long time. You know, get some that drushers later in

1387
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: the draft. You got one more right, that's that's the war. Yeah.

1388
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: Then I'm going to Adrian Wilson's problem, Solvey.

1389
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 3: Adrian Rinson. Beast didn't get out of love. He's supposed

1390
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 3: to because he was in Arizona when Arizona won.

1391
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: Good. So I guess when my last pick out your

1392
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: it's not you on me, man, boy, hold you brushes.

1393
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of snake is this.

1394
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 4: I'm going with with none of the other than the

1395
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 4: best running back in the state of Florida when we

1396
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 4: was coming out of high school, Trif Henry Travis Henry, Yes, sir,

1397
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 4: all Florida. That boy toe Tennessee up and down and

1398
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 4: got in the leader and he was taying.

1399
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: Buffalo, Hey, listen, could running the ball powerful pound seen

1400
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: in a long time.

1401
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: Now he is not.

1402
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 3: Cutein no beauty contents. Now you ain't pulling him out

1403
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 3: for Saturday Night.

1404
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: You ran that rock? Yeah all right?

1405
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 5: So yeah, Fred, before you go, Fred, just so everyone knows,

1406
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 5: this is the fifteenth pick. This is where Washington picked.

1407
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: Rod Garden won.

1408
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 5: So if we read yeah, that was Rob Gardner.

1409
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: I love Rod Gardner. That's my homeboy. We call him family.

1410
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 3: But I had just played against family. In the Peach

1411
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: Bowl Clympson versus Mississippi State, and he had as many

1412
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: catches as.

1413
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: A dead man. And they chose him before me and

1414
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: chose him before Tanna.

1415
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: That is the crazier one. Hey.

1416
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 3: We had Michael Ristbrook on the team at the time,

1417
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: so you didn't need no big body. We had Kevin

1418
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 3: Lockett Lockett sons that play in. We had Kevin Lockett,

1419
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: all right, so we didn't need We did not need

1420
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 3: a big receiver. We need a speed receiver. It So

1421
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna clean all that up because I still gotta

1422
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 3: take a quarterback right here.

1423
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: And y'all didn't leave me.

1424
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 3: Much as I looked down here, pretty much, Jesse Palmer,

1425
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 3: I apologize for ruining your career.

1426
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: I ruined you don't want that one on, no, but

1427
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: I ruined his career, all right, this is the story.

1428
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah this could, sir. Yeah.

1429
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: I played against him in Florida Missippi State and we

1430
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 3: blew him out by forty points him to never play again.

1431
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, pretty boy, just ran into the wrong smooth

1432
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: at the time, all right. Sage Rosen felt my draft partner.

1433
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 3: We got drafted the same year. I love Sage Rosen

1434
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: felt had a long career. All right, it's a back

1435
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 3: up and it spot played on some times.

1436
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: Old man winky Chris Winky.

1437
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: Oh man, all right, and that's where I'm gonna go

1438
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 3: with my pick. I could have went Tim hasselback, but

1439
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 3: Tim ain't here. The other hasse back, nobody, nobody goes

1440
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 3: in the store looking.

1441
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: For a t.

1442
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: Sounds like you're playing on the upside though, you know.

1443
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: Chris Wink Yeah won the Heisman, snoop me and his

1444
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: roll dog.

1445
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: He was just an older guy. He ain't had no hair,

1446
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 3: kind of like yours. All right, I'm going old man wink.

1447
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: Chris Winky, So just to review Jason right away wrote

1448
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: him down. All right. So here we go.

1449
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 5: We're redrafting two thousand and one. This is how it

1450
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 5: pans out.

1451
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: Fe pretty good about you have Drew Brees awesome.

1452
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 5: Steve Smith, Sean Rodgers, Steve Hutchinson, Adrian Wilson, pretty good,

1453
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 5: pretty good job, Santana. You have Mike Vick, love it yourself,

1454
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 5: love that, Richard Seymour, Reggie, Wayne, Travis, Henry Battle.

1455
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: He ain't come on now with me, all right, Fred.

1456
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jahnson Ye, Danny and Tomlinson Todu miscal.

1457
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: Mcallison pronounce the right. Yeah, yeah, I got yourself big

1458
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: player and with.

1459
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 5: The fifteenth pack Washington Tuck, Chris Wink.

1460
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: I had to I would force it to it. I

1461
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: was forced to take bow knicks.

1462
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 5: Are there any other players in the UH in the

1463
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 5: draft with you? I came out in two thousand and one.

1464
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 5: You just want to give honorable.

1465
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would say Dan Morgan, Damien Lewis, those

1466
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 4: two of my miamiro on the mats. They went before

1467
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 4: me in the draft. I was sixteenth, they was. I

1468
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 4: believe d Lewis ten and Damn Morgan cracked the top ten.

1469
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 4: I think he was like seven or or six or

1470
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 4: something like that.

1471
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit you with one. You ain't think about

1472
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: Woodrow Damnslow. You remember Woodrow was quarterback for the UH

1473
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 3: for Clemson, end up being a return man for the Cowboys.

1474
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: I do remember what Qristy Cotta, Christy Carter, Colorda Quarks

1475
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: scrot like. I got. It's so many dudes that came in.

1476
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: Who the one pull on the belt? UH from Freddy Minchell.

1477
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 3: Listen, Freddy Mitchell like it was so many in our

1478
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 3: class class with one of those classes.

1479
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: Is this Andre Carter that I played with? Yes, yeah, yeah,

1480
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: good dude, great dude.

1481
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: They caught out to Drake Man Drake coming out of college.

1482
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, I mean he was the end. Yeah.

1483
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 4: See he played with us when he went in the

1484
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 4: right system, Drake backing up in covering man coming off

1485
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 4: that end.

1486
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he gets get to hunt the quarterback. That

1487
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: boy was a beast. Alex Brown A lot of guys man,

1488
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: good class. Good.

1489
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: You guys got good memories. I didn't even know. I

1490
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: name three people from my class, but I didn't have

1491
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: the same kind of relationships you guys had with those guys.

1492
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: And now, if you're watching on YouTube, the special guest

1493
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: has arrived.

1494
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 3: Exactly drinks like he had a picnic selby time in Tampa,

1495
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 3: and it is time.

1496
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: It is time for the Great Bakeoff.

1497
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 2: What round is this guy's I don't even know.

1498
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: The fifth round?

1499
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: The fifth round, the fifth round of the bakeoff? And

1500
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 2: what are we baking? Boys?

1501
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: All right, we're baking butter cake? And I had this

1502
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: is what happened.

1503
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 3: I called my sinsey chief and I said, since I

1504
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: mean a battle this week, what should I do? And

1505
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 3: he said, son, utilize the things you have, and you

1506
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 3: have the best stove, you have the best pots and pants.

1507
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: You utilize those things and let it come to you

1508
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: padal one. So that's what I did here. Here's you know.

1509
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: The thing is his sense was the cashier wagons and

1510
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: what she told you make sure you take it out

1511
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: of this and put in your own contrainer. Yea freeze

1512
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: about three hours before you cook it.

1513
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 3: I love Wegmans, and they think I go there and

1514
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 3: just buy stuff. No, I go to Wegmans because it's

1515
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: God's kitchen. If God had a kitchen, and it look like.

1516
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: Exact man it's getting after. Zach has been pretty hostile

1517
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 2: on this one. Like the hostility it feels like Steve

1518
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: Smith coming out here.

1519
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I beat him up so early

1520
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Speaker 3: in these battles that he finally got a victory with

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01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 3: the cookies, which I got a blind ain't he can

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01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 3: make cooking.

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01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: So I didn't give him no love, and now he

1524
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: wants to try to get it out a lot about you.

1525
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 3: You know when the coach tell you it ain't no

1526
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 3: such thing as a thirty point test down, like you

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01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 3: got to take it one. What you're saying you know

1528
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like he wants to try to win

1529
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 3: everything in one cookoff.

1530
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: He can't do it.

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01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: And the smelling here right now is tremendous.

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01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: That's mind by my gas went. That's the cake by the.

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01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 2: Way, dude. All right, so Caroline, I think we're ready

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01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: for pie with pie cakes, but.

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Speaker 1: A cake very different. Actually they're very different. Did you

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01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: heat mine? Caroline? I could feel it. It's hot. Okay,

1537
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: we all get them, take one down and pass it around.

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01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: But they know which You guys can't comment on this,

1539
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: right because you know who's friends first.

1540
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no, we're not letting you

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01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: do any of that. You're not coming here running anything.

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01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: The blind taste, I say, you're not running anything.

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01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: That's fine, all right, I don't even know. Let's see

1544
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 2: let's see what we got here, all right.

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01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: So they looked a little different. They are different. They

1546
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: are different. Yeah, he does look like the one you

1547
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: buy that.

1548
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to know.

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01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: Mmm? Did Jesus Maamy there? M all right, I've never

1550
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: had buttercake before. M Triangle's pretty solid, man, that kind

1551
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: of southgle's pretty solid. Say the top two? Well? Geometry?

1552
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, okay, So there's two, there's sup there'shoes. There's

1553
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: two here, right, I don't even know how to describe them.

1554
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: So like it's a gooey and it's a rectangle, and

1555
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 2: then there's a triangle. The one with that is the

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01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: rectangle has a a very sugary sauce on top, brown sauce.

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01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: What do you think, Carolin, is that good? That's not appetizing?

1558
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 2: And then it's not the other one. The other one

1559
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 2: looks like a keishe kind of it looks like a

1560
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 2: kish What do you think?

1561
01:05:58,960 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: One is too sweet?

1562
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: Meaning they're pretty good? Actually, both of them. Let's see

1563
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: one more time. And so I don't even know what

1564
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: a buttercake is supposed to taste like.

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01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: So we didn't lost this for it started? Did what's

1566
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: your buttercake taste? I'm just going on with what I like?

1567
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: It's better.

1568
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: A right, Tanna, which one you like better? Don't?

1569
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: Which one you like better? I like the brown one,

1570
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: the square, the square, the.

1571
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: Square, I have to say the square too, not me? No,

1572
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: what was one?

1573
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: Do you like better? Triangle? So did you make the triangle?

1574
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: Don't you don't ask that question right now? I just

1575
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: like the triangle Zach.

1576
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 3: Wait, come on, Caroline, come on here, come on, come on. Yeah,

1577
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 3: it is all about do you like a sugar rush?

1578
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: Do you like substance? It is very sweet, Like it's

1579
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: kind of too sweet. I'm gonna have to put it down.

1580
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 2: But are they are they supposed to have? Is the

1581
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 2: butter cake supposed to be sugary on top?

1582
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: It depends on who depends what makes it makes. I

1583
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: like to make mine for grown ups. He makes his

1584
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: for kids. So it's a difference. See mine is for

1585
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: a steakhouse five star. His is for like the outback interesting,

1586
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: yeah back, interesting, long hand.

1587
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: Square, Caroline says emphatically square, like didn't even like, not

1588
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: even a moment's hesitation.

1589
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm just you know what, it's pretty good. I see,

1590
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: I see what's going on. No, it's not even that.

1591
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: It's a mutiny. And and the thing that's crazy. I

1592
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: knew who Cake was.

1593
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: What did you?

1594
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew him, But it's not even I you know,

1595
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 4: I'm one of the guys. I ain't gonna lie to you.

1596
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you the truth. Friend Zone is good,

1597
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 4: but he he might have a point.

1598
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: I love sugar and it tastes FI mean somebody got

1599
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: a broom over.

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01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 4: Zach's back, the Zach attack, eat back a broom. First

1601
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 4: of all, you like better mine. He's too sweet for me.

1602
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: It is very sweet, like I don't want.

1603
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: That much sugar. Like I couldn't. I couldn't like finish it.

1604
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: Let me taste like, listen, I say this taste at

1605
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: the at the door. Yours did taste a tad.

1606
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 2: Better, right, I said objectively, I said it's sustainable eating experiences.

1607
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: I just said I couldn't. I couldn't finish it if

1608
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to. Let me tell you my philosophy and desserts.

1609
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: It's very sweet. If I'm gonna eat dessert, I'm not

1610
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: eating it to be healthy in my eating. I'm going in.

1611
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm going all in. All of the chips are on

1612
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: the table.

1613
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 3: I just feel like I make mine for grown people

1614
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 3: and grown me. You gotta take a littlely sugar out

1615
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 3: of that.

1616
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: So where we at when it comes to three to two?

1617
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 2: Right now?

1618
01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: It's actually two to two? One?

1619
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: Oh?

1620
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, Yeah, it was a tie. Pumpkin was

1621
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: the first first one we did. Did I make pumpkin pie,

1622
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: made sweet Tata pie. He made the purple the purple

1623
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: sweep tat it was very good.

1624
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 2: It better. Yeah, I had one of them.

1625
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 1: Man, you're back square. You came with vengeans on that one.

1626
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: That was good. That's right? Did I feel like that

1627
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: that buttercake was that good?

1628
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 3: Because if I go to What's this is what I'm

1629
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 3: gonna do because these you know, you know, they ain't

1630
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 3: even ate buttercake. So I'm gonna go get them a

1631
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 3: steakhouse butter cake. And I'm gonna bring them a professional

1632
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 3: made butter cake. And y'all gonna see that he is.

1633
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 4: But what it is though, And like I said, I

1634
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 4: don't know buttercake. But like I said, I went off

1635
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 4: just what my taste bugs like. And if I was

1636
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 4: at the steakhouse, yours are straight. You always you're a baker.

1637
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 4: I don't realize you're being there with you being there

1638
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 4: with your little apron on this.

1639
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: This is the first he has got me though. This

1640
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: is the first time I actually think Zach's texture is better.

1641
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 2: One of the first times. It's like nice and and soft,

1642
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: USU little dense, which is you have not done a

1643
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: dense cake.

1644
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 1: So you would vote too.

1645
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 3: I was vote with the left hand that was sponsored

1646
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 3: by local alcohol.

1647
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 1: So I think so Selby emphatically.

1648
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: Emphatically Selby, you know.

1649
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: What I'm saying time that.

1650
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 2: That was the first like clean one.

1651
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: Though I'm voted for him, it's fine.

1652
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: Look at you being the bigger guy.

1653
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: That's that's really that's one thing as a cornerback when

1654
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 3: you get the world see it right, you're used to it.

1655
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: Hey, if you want lessons, you can come by my

1656
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: place anytime, Zach, we can my joke and bounced in. Man,

1657
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: that's what he did. And I want child to to

1658
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 1: know that whispering is rude.

1659
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 2: Your glue.

1660
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: Man, Whenever you say down stuff, beings stick to you. Right.

1661
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 2: So I think that's gonna do it for today. And also,

1662
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 2: just I got to point this out. We have another

1663
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 2: avenue of our media department. They do the commander's logs

1664
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 2: and they do a really good job kind of getting

1665
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 2: behind the scenes information on this. Right. So there's a

1666
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: great clip that I think Jason's going to put in

1667
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: here about Joe Gibbs's involvement in some of the process

1668
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 2: in terms of like his input. And you know, everyone

1669
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 2: loves Joe Gibbs. Everyone loves seeing a little bit of ja.

1670
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 2: They say it a good job. And I don't know

1671
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 2: how they get this access because we have such hard

1672
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 2: time getting access, but they have so much information that

1673
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: they've got on camera. So if you like the Commanders,

1674
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 2: you want to see kind of this new coaching higher process,

1675
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 2: please make sure you check out the Commander's Log, which

1676
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: is a great show. I watch it whenever it comes out.

1677
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: When's it come out, Jason, It's like kind of whenever

1678
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: they have content. Yeah, so you got to make sure

1679
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: you're subscribed.

1680
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: So that's the thing.

1681
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: It's not a regular thing because it's a they're long

1682
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: term projects. So whenever they come out, makes you check

1683
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: them out. And I think that's going to do it

1684
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: for today's show. Thanks so much for joining, Zachary. Congratulations,

1685
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: Thank you, Fred, really solid.

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Speaker 6: I always wanted to coach someplace where football it's really

1687
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 6: important too. It's really important there, yes, because you've got the.

1688
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,799
Speaker 1: Most powerful city in the world.

1689
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 6: The only thing that brings that city together is that

1690
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 6: football team.

1691
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: And I love that part of it because, yes.

1692
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 6: There's pressure there, yeah, man, but you want it to

1693
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 6: be something special out there. It's special, isn't That fan base?

1694
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 6: They're ready, they want to come back, they're ready to

1695
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 6: and so I think you've gotten. Honestly, I think you

1696
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 6: got the best coaching job in the world.

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