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Speaker 5: Friday July twenty fifth of the twenty five's and you've

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Speaker 5: Still not really sure where I feel on that, but hey, anyway,

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Speaker 5: I'm your boy. VC Brian Cample Luke Thomas on vacation

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Speaker 5: Let's bring in my guest to kick off the show

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Speaker 5: from MMA, junkie with love and the host of the

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Speaker 5: Fantastic Bonfire podcast. He's also a bearded individual. Let's welcome

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Speaker 5: Mike Bone. I wanted to say for the first time,

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Speaker 2: Brother, Welcome back to MK.

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Speaker 6: I was that was a memorable day and happy birthday, Brian.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you, sir, thank you so forty seven.

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Speaker 5: Never look this washed, but happy to be here, Happy

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Speaker 5: to circle the globe one more time with you, Mike,

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Speaker 5: big fan of your work these days.

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Speaker 2: How's life? How's everything? You're you're you know, you're you're

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Speaker 2: tearing ass over there at Junkie.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, life is good.

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Speaker 6: Man, can't complain. I thought New Orleans was an awesome

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'd just stay an extra day out there

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Speaker 6: Saw a full on bar brawl on my last night,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully you didn't wait in line too long that Cafe

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta gotta wear it all day. That's what

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about, all right, Mike. We got a lot

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Speaker 5: Hey, our producer, our director, our bong enthusiast, one of

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Speaker 5: TUESDA today. Luke I even introduced you without men, referencing

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Speaker 2: So that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Almost you were that close. You were that close, guys.

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Speaker 7: I'm hip Bobby Knuckles fighting tomorrow and we got a

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Speaker 2: So that's well done, right there, Luca, happy to have

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Speaker 5: All right, let's hit a topic number one. Who know, Yes,

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Speaker 5: it's UFC Abu Dhabi this Saturday, and that's a pretty

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Speaker 5: damn good fight night card with a middleweight main event

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Speaker 5: that you must see, of course, with title implications, with

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Speaker 5: former champion Robert Whitaker having surprisingly lost three of his

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Speaker 5: Night and Ranier de Ritter, who is the on a

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Speaker 6: I think just finding out if Robert Whitaker still has

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Speaker 3: He's saying it like this is my last run. Here.

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Speaker 6: He has history with no matter who comes out of

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Speaker 6: he did get finished by both guys, the Hamzat one

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Speaker 6: I don't think he's someone who's fallen off dramatically, just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's very well said about what this

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Speaker 5: Robert Whitaker, thirty four years old. So, Mike, you never

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest shock I don't want to say disappointment,

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Speaker 5: But the biggest shock wasn't necessarily that Whitakers three and

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Speaker 5: three in his last six, largely against the Leite opponents.

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Speaker 5: It's more the one sided nature in how he lost.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we are.

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Speaker 2: Literally talking about a living legend right here.

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Speaker 5: And I don't offer that nickname libor.

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Speaker 2: Or is that the right word? I don't know. Off

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Speaker 5: There you're talking about two title fights with aut Asania.

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Speaker 2: I thought he won the second one. Maybe I'm crazy.

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Speaker 5: How about ten rounds with Prime Eoel Romero, DDP Chimaiev

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Speaker 6: You would think not, But you know, I think some

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Speaker 6: So if Rob is not like shutting down that first

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Speaker 5: To echo once more to the times that Whittaker in

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Speaker 2: But as he's slowing down just a bit. When you

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Speaker 6: If RDR gets his back and wraps the forearm around

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, and he.

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Speaker 5: Has had some injury illness situations that compromised that very

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Speaker 2: You never know, but he has been.

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Speaker 5: Able to reinstall his greatness and show us what he

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Speaker 4: How are you feeling, how's the health? How long did

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Speaker 4: The fight against Hamzad, you said it before that your

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Speaker 9: It wasn't the jaw, it was the teeth that that

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Speaker 5: Rob would also say at media day that if he

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Speaker 5: has it his way, of course, this fight will be contested.

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Speaker 2: The entire time on the feed.

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Speaker 5: It would be interesting to see what Ranier de Ritter

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Speaker 5: get there. He is that submission expert at great success,

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Speaker 2: In difficulty of opponent.

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Speaker 5: Although you can certainly question how dangerous was bo Nickel

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Speaker 5: And I'll tell you the Draftking odds right now, Robert

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Speaker 5: Whitaker is still a slight favorite at minus one fifty five,

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Speaker 5: but that wild card Jjutes expert of RDR plus one

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Speaker 2: Do you look at him?

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Speaker 5: Almost like in boxing we say a puncher's chance, like

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Speaker 5: even if this fight goes five rounds, could you see

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Speaker 6: That's a tough one, just because I still regard Whittaker

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Speaker 6: realistic outcome to me. Obviously it can happen, but if

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Speaker 6: Rainier even plans for that, cares about that. He's going

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 6: They just had their face off what like an hour

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Speaker 3: He is a big freaking guy.

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Speaker 6: And I know we talked about the size and the

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Speaker 3: He can finish the fight.

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Speaker 6: And he's got one of the most important things you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, momentum is huge. I want to get to that

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Speaker 5: First, we've got to listen to what the Dark Knight

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Speaker 5: has to say when basically asked what we're debating here,

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Speaker 5: is your plan to kind of save that guess tank

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Speaker 5: de ritter and get after it. Let's hear from them.

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Speaker 10: Considering this is your first main event in the USC,

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Speaker 1: No, nah, I think just hit the gas.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of what I do see.

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Speaker 10: If I can get him out there early or maybe

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Speaker 5: Must be a big podcast fan with that all gas

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Speaker 5: no breaks way of living right there. But let's go

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Speaker 5: to quickly to long islanlook our betting expert. When I

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Speaker 5: look at the odds here, Luke, your boy from Australia

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Speaker 5: It feels like they're not sure how strong the momentum

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Speaker 5: of our dr is and how much Rob has left.

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Speaker 7: You get that same feeling, Yeah, I feel like it's

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Speaker 7: more what Rob has left or maybe like what Rob's

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Speaker 7: teeth have left kind of thing there. But Yo, Rob

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Speaker 7: at middleweight, he's lost to champions, He's only lost to Hamsat.

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Speaker 7: Seven of his last ten fights have come against current

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Speaker 1: RDR, Yah's on a nice streak, still hasn't fought anyone

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Speaker 7: I feel like good value on Rob here too, minus

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Speaker 7: one fifty five.

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Speaker 1: I would take that all day.

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Speaker 7: But uh, on the other hand, RDR, I feel like

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Speaker 7: you just got to take by finish at that point,

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Speaker 7: because if he doesn't get it done early, he's probably

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Speaker 7: not gonna get it done.

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Speaker 1: But you know you already I'm running with Bobby Knuckles.

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Speaker 5: Let's go Bobby Knuckles with like you, Luke would say

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Speaker 5: this week that he believes in his BJJ.

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Speaker 2: He believes he.

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Speaker 5: Will have no problem if the fight does go there.

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Speaker 5: But this is what we're trying to figure out, Mike.

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Speaker 5: Is this just a red hot streak against the right

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Speaker 5: names at the right time. Did our dr who used

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Speaker 5: to shoot for the moon and you know, try to

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Speaker 5: win the heavyweight championship at one but yet came into

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Speaker 5: the UFC with a fucking attitude. I'm just gonna go

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Speaker 5: out there, fight who they give me and see what happens.

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Speaker 5: When you look at this and you're ready to make

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Speaker 5: your prediction. Does the Dark Knight, the Dutch one get

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no.

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Speaker 6: Oh, but he has He's capable, definitely, And like we

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Speaker 6: Right like he was in purgatory, no one was talking

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Speaker 6: with his fourth fight and fighting a former champion in

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Speaker 6: how they match up and you know, striking wrestling, like

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Speaker 6: last time he fought someone ranked number twelve?

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Speaker 3: Like it's been years and years and years.

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Speaker 6: So this is like I'm still here type of fight

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Speaker 6: for rob and this is just for a near Like

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Speaker 6: you know, I could everything I want, all my dreams,

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Speaker 6: title fight, it's all on the other side of this.

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Speaker 6: So this is the moment for him to show up

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Speaker 6: But until I see the fall off from Robert Whittaker

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Speaker 2: I'm exactly right there with you and I am a

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Speaker 2: big fan of our DR interviewed him a bunch in

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Speaker 2: really believe. But I believe when things go his way,

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Speaker 2: and this might be a fight, it'll probably be a

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Speaker 2: Whittaker by decision. I don't throw out the idea that

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Speaker 2: when you look at.

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Speaker 5: What's really at stake here, I don't think already ours

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Speaker 5: a win and you get a title shot, because we

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Speaker 5: do have some big names atop this division, it would

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Speaker 5: certainly set him up for big things. But even though

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Speaker 5: Whittaker's coming in on a one fight losing streak, we

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Speaker 5: already know if you're a former champion with a big

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Speaker 5: name and you get a viable win, you could be

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Speaker 5: knocking on the door. Is there any chance Whittaker could

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Speaker 5: with a win here, could be facing, in your eyes,

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Speaker 5: the winner of that August Middleway Championship in Chicago between

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Speaker 6: It feels unlikely just based off this one win, but

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Speaker 6: it really depends like who deserves it the most. It's

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Speaker 6: I think the winner of Nacardini, Mobov and Kyle Barraljo, Right,

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Speaker 6: But I don't think Imbov is someone in the UFC

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Speaker 6: I think they would reluctantly give it to him if

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Speaker 6: no one else was available and it was best for

441
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Speaker 6: their timing.

442
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 3: And then you look who else is out there.

443
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 6: There's no one that feels like this is so clearly

444
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 6: the next guy outside of that, of course, so Rob,

445
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 6: all those things you said, the things that he's done,

446
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 6: the name value, maybe they do a show in Sydney,

447
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 6: a pay per view in like February, and the timing

448
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:50,880
Speaker 6: line's up there.

449
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 3: Drikis has fought there multiple times.

450
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 6: If he wins, so like it could be a location

451
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 6: dependent all that stuff. He's at least got a chance

452
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 6: if he goes out there and does something, and given

453
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 6: like what he'd be four and three in the last

454
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 6: seven fights. That's all you can really ask yourself for

455
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 6: the person that feels like they would be more sellable

456
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 6: for the title fight right away would be renier if

457
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 6: he does something impressive finishes the job because he has

458
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 6: trained I think pretty extensively with both guys, and he's

459
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 6: you know, we wanted to see the awkwardness of the

460
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 6: rainier Diritor versus strictus super ces fight.

461
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 5: It would be awkward and delightful just the same. Let's

462
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 5: get in to this co main event in the bandamweight division.

463
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 5: As former champion, I always struggle pay Yoder.

464
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 2: Potento my man.

465
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 5: He'll be by the way minus three seven to five

466
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 5: favorite according to DraftKings. As he bounced back from that

467
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 5: streak in which he lost both the title and four

468
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 5: out of five to win two straight in title contention,

469
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 5: Suddenly you could have argued he should have gotten the

470
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 5: last title shot in a potential rematch with Morob This time, though,

471
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 5: like Whitaker, welcoming somebody from the backside of the rankings,

472
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 5: we'll get a thirty five year old Marcus McGee who

473
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 5: is riding a six fight win streak now largely.

474
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,959
Speaker 2: Against secondary opposition.

475
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 5: The decision went over Jonathan Martinez last time was a

476
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 5: nice boost to really give him what amounts.

477
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: Here for me a tryout on the elite level.

478
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 5: Would you think Marcus McGee has shown us yet that

479
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 5: this is possible, that he could get through Yon as

480
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 5: a by the way plus two ninety five favorite, and

481
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 5: that he could prove to us on Saturday that he

482
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Speaker 5: is of this elite.

483
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: Ilk he could.

484
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 6: He's shown a lot of good stuff and they picked

485
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 6: him in this spot for a reason. If Jan was

486
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 6: gonna fight way down in the rankings. This is someone

487
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 6: I thought deserved a chance like this, and it makes

488
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 6: sense from the style stuff and all that. I'm still

489
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 6: super high on Yon and think he is capable of

490
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 6: a lot of good things and big wins and maybe

491
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 6: even getting that belt again.

492
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 3: So well, I'm sure get into it. From his side.

493
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 6: I love this fight and for McGee, like, yeah, could

494
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 6: he land something crazy out there. But Yon's chin is

495
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 6: very good, obviously his striking is elite, so the path

496
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 6: to victory is gonna be very, very, very tough. But

497
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 6: if he hurts him, if he really is aggressive in

498
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 6: there and wears Yon down, perhaps he can win this

499
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 6: fight on a decision. But I just I don't see it.

500
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 6: This is a real tough uphill climb for him.

501
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 2: It really is.

502
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 5: It's a huge opportunity though, and given his age in

503
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 5: the window that is available to him, you certainly have

504
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 5: to take your best swing and jump through it. He's

505
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 5: almost looking like a tourist on Instagram on you know,

506
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 5: being a part of a big card like this, in

507
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 5: a big spot in the co main event and seeing

508
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 5: his name in light, seeing his face on the poster,

509
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff.

510
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: He certainly can fight. But Mike, at thirty two, Yan's

511
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: not done.

512
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 5: I mean he feels in his last two fights decision

513
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 5: wins over song You Dong Devison figuredo like he's a

514
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 5: lot closer to being not only in contention, but possibly,

515
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 5: as you mentioned, regaining that title.

516
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: Then he is only in the other direction.

517
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 5: So when you look back at that streak of four

518
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 5: defeats in five fights, we certainly have some explainable situations,

519
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 5: including the disqualification there. But do you think maybe it

520
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 5: was a grind of so many big names back to

521
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 5: back to back in a short period of time that

522
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 5: maybe there was a burnout or something there that slowed

523
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 5: him down.

524
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 6: There could be some complacency. Bantamweight is just insane, dude,

525
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 6: Like these guys are so good. Who put those four

526
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 6: fights in front of anyone, maybe outside of Morob, Like

527
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 6: who's coming out with the significantly better record and winning

528
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 6: all those instead of losing them, So like I in

529
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 6: that sense, I don't want to beat him up too much.

530
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 6: There could have been some of that, like he was

531
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 6: in a weird spot after those Aljo fights and maybe

532
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 6: it just took some time to pick.

533
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: Up the pieces.

534
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 6: But he feels like he's fully back and motivated, and

535
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 6: I love that he took this fight.

536
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 3: It is very smart of him. I think.

537
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 6: I know the risk is immense, but like if we're

538
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 6: talking about him maybe getting a title shot and getting

539
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 6: that helt back, like he said, he was offered Umar

540
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 6: and Omega Madoff in the main event of UFC Baku

541
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 6: and Umar couldn't make it, still dealing with the hand stuff,

542
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 6: But like, if you could get a title shot off

543
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 6: of either of those just because of the situation, isn't

544
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 6: this the significantly easier fight. And it's a three rounder,

545
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 6: like you know, one win and it gets them there.

546
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 6: And I'd much rather have that fight come against Marcus

547
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 6: McGee than Umar and Omega Madoffs. So he's the benefit

548
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 6: of some good timing. And you know Rob beats Corey Sandhagen,

549
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 6: the Sky's gonna need someone to fight, So I think

550
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 6: he's in a real, real good spot here if he

551
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 6: gets the stuff.

552
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think I really agree with you on

553
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 5: that regard, And I mean he he kind of should

554
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 5: have or could have already gotten a title shot based

555
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 5: with off of those two wins.

556
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: This is such a pick your poison.

557
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 5: I mean, like you said, the difference between McGee and

558
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 5: what the difficulty of Umar brings. And I wasn't really

559
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 5: sure about the Umar setback on the injury. I was

560
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 5: actually gonna ask you that, like why are we not

561
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 5: getting that fight this time right now? But I wonder

562
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 5: if it's better for Yan in terms of getting that

563
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 5: next fight if it is depending on who wins, or

564
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 5: do you think he can get it either way?

565
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 6: I think he can get it either way, just because

566
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 6: if Marob beats Corey, like who who's the next guy

567
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 6: after that?

568
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: If not this? So it's a.

569
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 6: Bit of a tough sell, like we we remember that

570
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 6: first fight. I think Morob shot what forty something takedowns

571
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 6: in there. Yan, to his credit, stop most of them.

572
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 6: And there's a lot of personal stuff between those two,

573
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 6: like leading in at the waynes, so you can definitely

574
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 6: sell it. And if Yon goes out there and and

575
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 6: styles on the dude, I think it is something you

576
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 6: could sell. Like, he is a guy that I think

577
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 6: still has a pretty passionate fan base who a lot

578
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 6: of people think is extremely talented. He's picking up on

579
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 6: the English more like there's there's ways to go, and

580
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 6: it seems like Morob is down to do that fight

581
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 6: again too. He's talked about it being open to it,

582
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 6: So it's a it seems like a pretty strong path here.

583
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 3: And I've been saying.

584
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 6: This a lot in recent months, like I would love

585
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 6: to see more fighters do this in terms of just

586
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 6: like trying to get some forward movement of their own

587
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 6: in the division by fighting a guy who's down like

588
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 6: the rankings. Like in theory, Yan should win this fight

589
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 6: with the highlight something spectacular and that is more valuable

590
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 6: than winning a competitive five round decision over Umar and

591
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 6: like you know, your sellability all that stuff. It's an

592
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 6: easier fight, like go out there and treat the number

593
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 6: of twelve guy, number twelve rank guy or whatever McGee is, Like,

594
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 6: he should be treated by a guy with your standard

595
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 6: and I think that does more for you than if

596
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 6: you go to a blood and guts decision with number six.

597
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn right on that one and the maniac certainly

598
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 2: has his own form of danger here. But I like

599
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: Yan in just about every category.

600
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 5: I hope Yan continues to add onto that English, by

601
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 5: the way, because he's whole blooded, seemingly at every turn.

602
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 5: I even like when he stood up against what was

603
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 5: that whole habib bit that went on this week of

604
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 5: do you remember the specifics of that, even pushed back

605
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 5: against that. There was something that Habibeb said that the

606
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 5: media was like, does this apply to you as well?

607
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: And He's just like, no, Hope, you can have that thing.

608
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: I'm different whatever.

609
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, well while showing respect though at the same time

610
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 5: he's certainly cold blooded. Uh quickly Long Island, Luke, you're

611
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 5: not throwing plus money at McGee here, right, We're all

612
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 5: in unison.

613
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 7: No, but I don't like the fucking odds on Yon,

614
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 7: So I'm.

615
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: Taking the over two and a half.

616
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 7: Also worth noting McGee trains at MMA Lab where Sean

617
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 7: O'Malley used to train, maybe possibly still trains.

618
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: Sean O'Malley got that flukey split decision against Yon. Maybe

619
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: that team knows something, you know.

620
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 5: We're just saying, we're saying, maybe Tye goes to the

621
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 5: runner when it comes to a big time fighter like that.

622
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 5: And I like, by the way, the cold bloodiness of

623
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 5: Yon saying, uh, yeah, I'd rematch o'melly again, but only

624
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 5: if it was, you know, on the path to the title,

625
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 5: because he believes that guy was a fraud all the way.

626
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: Uh, let's keep going down the card.

627
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 5: Sharp Bullet at middleweight here, coming off of that first

628
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 5: defeat in the UFC against Michael Venam Page will be

629
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 5: a monster favorite minus six seventy five against the tough

630
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 5: Canadian Mark Andre Burial at plus four ninety. Mike, we

631
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: knew char Bullet had some flaws even during the one

632
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 5: eyed Pirate wind streak that he put on there.

633
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: Did the MVP fight pop the balloon at all for you?

634
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 5: In terms of trying to figure out exactly where his

635
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 5: ceiling is?

636
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 6: I think so, Like it feels like he lost a

637
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 6: lot of momentum energy around him coming off that loss.

638
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: It was it was a tough one.

639
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 6: Like even just look at the numbers that we have

640
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 6: this week, like it is nothing compared to his first

641
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 6: three four UFC fights, So he's got something that he needs.

642
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: To rebuild here.

643
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 6: And yeah, like there's a lot of pressure in that

644
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 6: regard and fighting. My fellow Canadian Mark Andre Berrio, I

645
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 6: think I can't avoid this man's fights. He's just fighting

646
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 6: in front of me every few months. And last time

647
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 6: we saw him put a guy out on a stretcher

648
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 6: out there in Montreal. So yes, I think in this fight,

649
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 6: and yeah, Shara needs needs to show something here, some evolution,

650
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 6: because he made a lot of excuses after that loss too,

651
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 6: saying he was sick, all these different things. You got

652
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 6: to prove it here, but it does feel like there's

653
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 6: just not that excitement and interest in him that there

654
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 6: was prior to that fight with MVP.

655
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: Certainly he then maybe this is that perfect setup as

656
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: you said, to get him that. But Burio damn near killed.

657
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 5: Bruno Silva, who we always have to say was blinded

658
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 5: permanently in both eyes by Wideman in that ridiculous fight

659
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 5: before earlier before that, but that snapped a three fight

660
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Speaker 5: losing skid for Burial.

661
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: Still, I don't know.

662
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 5: I mean, Shara looks good to pretty good at times,

663
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 5: and you know he can break out spectacular strikes like

664
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 5: a double ass three sixty spinning double reverse elbow type

665
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 5: of tilt. That's like some video game shit, right, there.

666
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 5: But even more than him doing something spectacular right here,

667
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 5: I want to see him control every terms of you know,

668
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: all the terms of this fight and put on the

669
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 5: kind of victory that would give you more confidence in

670
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 5: him moving forward, because certainly there's a very marketable side

671
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 5: to him and you know, one eyed fighters have won.

672
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: A UFC title in the past. Just to be fair

673
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: with that regard.

674
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 5: Uh, there's more to talk about in this car, but

675
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 5: I want to specifically talk about the featured prelim bout

676
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 5: as Bryce Mitchell drops down to bantamweight in a very

677
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 5: interesting fight against said Nermaga Metoff. Now Mitchell will be

678
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 5: a minus one two betting favorite against the plus one

679
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 5: twenty Normaga Metoff in this reinvention. Here comes after a

680
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 5: time in which Mitchell was finished in three of his

681
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 5: last five fights at featherweight, including the end of that

682
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 5: insane grudge back in back war with Lord g An Silva,

683
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 5: which seemed to be a lot more about stomping on

684
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 5: weird Hitler ideologies than even the real beef between them. Ultimately, Mike,

685
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 5: is this the right move for Bryce at this point

686
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 5: in his career in your eyes, to go down and

687
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 5: try to find new life.

688
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not? Like, what's why not?

689
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 6: He's clearly hit a ceiling at featherweight, he's not getting Yeah,

690
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 6: he already fought Iliot Taporia, right, we saw Hadakka, We

691
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 6: fought other elite level guys. He needed to switch something

692
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 6: up if he didn't want want to just be a

693
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 6: guy who goes out there and wins one, loses one,

694
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 6: all that type of stuff.

695
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: Can you make a run here?

696
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 6: Like Bandsa waits a deeper division than featherweight in my

697
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 6: opinion right now, So he's got a lot of work

698
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 6: to do. This is gonna be a tough challenge, but

699
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 6: this is a good new layer of paint on his career.

700
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: I guess to see if he.

701
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 6: Can try to make something happen, because it feels like

702
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 6: Featherweight was going nowhere.

703
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: You're starting to wonder though, is he of the strong

704
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: the Sean Strickland ilk where it's like, is it dangerous

705
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: to bring this guy to other countries? Right? Is somebody

706
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: gonna throw a boomerang at Colby Coventon again?

707
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: Is gonna be one of those stars?

708
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 6: So? I mean it seems like his day one, that

709
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 6: story about him in the change room or whatever, just

710
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 6: like you know, going going full hanging out was the

711
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 6: worst at god. I haven't heard anything bad as far

712
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 6: as horror stories from over there, so it seems like

713
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 6: he's been on his best behavior at least.

714
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: The media day was interesting.

715
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, the media day was weird.

716
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 5: Let's investigate it just a bit because we do play

717
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 5: up the weirdness on this show. Here's Bryce Mitchell at

718
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 5: media day. Uh, misunderstanding who he's talking to.

719
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 11: Bryce previous to say, so does nice pistan m m a.

720
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: He's still.

721
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 12: I shoot crown, he baby salammbu Dhabi. He spoke Russian,

722
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 12: by the way, alfous in shala al fous in shala

723
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 12: alfous in s La hondla la, thinking I'm from Russia.

724
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I thought She's speaking Arabic.

725
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: No, the question was Arabic.

726
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: Boy, Oh boys, guy's a wild card.

727
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 5: Look, some people still, I don't even say rightfully, want

728
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 5: to cancel him or see him. I don't know, maybe

729
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 5: change his tune on some of the more disastrous things

730
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 5: he said publicly.

731
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: One media member did bring that up one more time.

732
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: Let's see Bryce's reaction.

733
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 7: Like people were saying they should be canceled at some point,

734
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 7: is it is this this thing, or like some people

735
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 7: are still mad at you back at home.

736
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 12: Revelation two nine, Revelation three nine. The Synagogue Saitan has

737
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 12: formed an army against me. They compassed me about. Yeah,

738
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 12: they compashed me about. But the Lord will strike them down.

739
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: Thank you.

740
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 5: I don't remember the book where Jesus fished with Hitler there, Mike,

741
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 5: I have read that book front to back.

742
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: You want to let you know, Yeah, no, I'm a

743
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 3: stot chapter.

744
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much. Do you think he gets

745
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: this done here? How good in your eyes? Is? I

746
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 2: mock him at off?

747
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: He's good.

748
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 6: This is a tough fight for Bryce. It'll be interesting

749
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 6: and that will be the telling thing of whether this

750
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 6: was a big mistake or not right. Because Bryce considers

751
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 6: himself an elite grappler and said is very subficient, competent,

752
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 6: and a great grappler himself. So like you know, he said,

753
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 6: the reason he dropped down is because he felt like

754
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 6: he was getting dummied a bit by John Silva. If

755
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 6: Sayid goes out there and is able to handle him

756
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 6: in the same way, then it's like where does Bryce

757
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 6: kind of go from there? And I think he's capable,

758
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 6: Like say, he's had his up and down moments in

759
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 6: the UFC, but he's clearly a very skilled guy and

760
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 6: has some solid fish and instincts both on the feet

761
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 6: and the grounds. So this will be like, I know

762
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 6: what he is, and I don't think he's gonna be

763
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 6: a champion or anything like that at bantamway, but he

764
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 6: can be a top fifteen guy for a while. This

765
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 6: will be telling if Bryce can get through him, if

766
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 6: he could actually make some noise in this division, because say,

767
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 6: it is very competent.

768
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 5: So he'd thirty three years old, has lost two of

769
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 5: his last three, but certainly put together an overall pretty

770
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 5: good run in a very difficult division. I have seen

771
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 5: the side by side photos by the way of Bryce,

772
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 5: you know, for the photoshoot four feather and ban.

773
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: It kind of looks the same, you know, it really does, right,

774
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: A little.

775
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little more to define, but yeah, pretty.

776
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 5: Much all right, Mike, When you look up and down

777
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 5: the rest of this card, what storyline, what fight stands

778
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 5: out to you the most?

779
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 6: Ooh man, it's hard to say, Like there's a lot

780
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 6: of meat on the bone for this one, right, Like

781
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 6: I'm a big Nikita Krilov guy. I think he's uh,

782
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 6: you know, like the comeback fight after what like two

783
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 6: years away did not go well for him last time.

784
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 6: But light heavyweight, man, this is a wasteland out there.

785
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 6: So a guy like him, he hasn't had his title shot.

786
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 6: He puts together a few wins in a row and

787
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 6: has some consistency, he can be there and at worst

788
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 6: it's gonna be an exciting fight that ends in a

789
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 6: finish because I think he has only been to the

790
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 6: scorecards once in his entire career. So that's always uh,

791
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 6: always good. I'm always down for a Nikita krilof fight.

792
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: Dude. There's a lot of interesting things on.

793
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: Against Tabitha Ricci.

794
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 2: First of all.

795
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 5: First of all, you'll get people in the comments saying that's,

796
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 5: you know, shorts or underwear only fight.

797
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you that's a good ass fight on

798
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 2: top of that, right.

799
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's solid. I mean, I've been high on Rebus

800
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 6: for a while. I don't like that she did the

801
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 6: jumping up and down weight classes so many times.

802
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: Thing.

803
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 6: I think she is a significantly better straw weeight as

804
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 6: she is than she is a flyweight, and hopefully she's

805
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 6: finally settling in. I understand why she bounced back. These

806
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 6: are the fights the UFC was offering her up weight classes,

807
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 6: down weight classes. They clearly want to give her opportunities.

808
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 6: But when I look at her and the opponent she

809
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 6: has to fight, I always think she performs better as

810
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 6: a strawweight, and I think the record reflects that. I

811
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 6: think she's five and two in the UFC at strawweight,

812
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 6: in like three and three at feather or flyweight.

813
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, she has to lean on her chin too much.

814
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: She gets hit a lot when she fights at at

815
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: the one two five. Right there, our baby Shark is

816
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: coming off that loss to Yan Shannon, which snapped a

817
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: wind streak that seemed to say that maybe she's turning

818
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: toward contention here at age thirty. This does feel like

819
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: a big fight for Ricci in terms of trying to

820
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 2: turn that corner.

821
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, she needs to win this one if she wants

822
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 6: to be something here. And jangwaally needs people to fight

823
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 6: and needs people there. Interesting, So assuming she sticks around

824
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 6: this division, I don't know what's going on with her,

825
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 6: maybe moving up and fighting Valentina and if she would

826
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 6: come down after that win or lose, But yeah, this

827
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 6: division is in desperate need of fresh faces. Interesting challengers,

828
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 6: and do I give her a chance of winning that

829
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 6: title fight. No, but you know, fans seem to like her.

830
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 6: She's got that relationship with Cal Walsh and all that stuff,

831
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 6: so like there's there's something there that you can at

832
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 6: least work with.

833
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 8: Yeah.

834
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: I saw horn from Paulo Costa.

835
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 5: I think he likes it too, very interesting stuff, but

836
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 5: he likes to stir the pot in a lot of

837
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 5: different areas and shake during press conferences. I'm gotta say,

838
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 5: Long Island, look your boy a flywait asu almabaya if

839
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 5: you are hyping him up for some time. He lost

840
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 5: to a very almost absurd looking Manel Cop who was

841
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 5: virtuoso striking wise in that fight. Does he bounce back

842
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 5: here against Ochoa?

843
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

844
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 7: I mean he also got I poked a shit in

845
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 7: that fight from Menel Cop, So you know.

846
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: He's got Jose Jose.

847
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 7: You know he looks good, but he's a little unproven.

848
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 7: He knocked out Cody Durdin. I don't know how much

849
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 7: value we can really put in that win a sue.

850
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 7: By the way, I got it plus money earlier in

851
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 7: the week. He's now minus one twenty five. But either way,

852
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 7: also got to give a shout out to the curtain

853
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 7: jerker Marcus Bucca.

854
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: Making his UFC you here.

855
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 7: I mean, I feel like Luke Thomas would speak on

856
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 7: this better than I can.

857
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: But BJJ legend, so let's go.

858
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, Luke Thomas would take his thing out, no doubt.

859
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 5: But Mike, is this like the curtain jerk thing seems

860
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 5: a little like we're not sure who you are, so

861
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 5: you're maybe our next robellus d'spanie.

862
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: Let me keep you there until you show us that

863
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: you have life. Do you think this guy who's only

864
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: lost in MMA is to Umar Khan, the current one

865
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion? Are you expecting much here?

866
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: I hope so please.

867
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 6: I think they put him in the spot, maybe because

868
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 6: you know his jiu jitsu background.

869
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: It's a nabu dabi. Maybe there's some sort of connection

870
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 3: trying to.

871
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 6: Get people in the door earlier and get them excited

872
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 6: by you know, a high level jiu jitsu practitioner.

873
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 3: But we'll see.

874
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: Man.

875
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 6: Another guy, as I talked to you with Ranier durrid

876
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 6: Or earlier, like was in one championship Purgatory, felt like

877
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 6: his career was over and he was never getting get

878
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 6: an opportunity like this and he gets it, probably later

879
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 6: in life than he would have wanted to, but he's here.

880
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 6: The heavyweight division could not be more or wide open

881
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 6: and desperate for someone to do anything interesting, So like, please,

882
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 6: can we go out there and get a quick submission,

883
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 6: do something to drum up some interest. And you know

884
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 6: he's fighting a rank guy right off the bat. It

885
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 6: doesn't take much at heavyweight. A couple of good wins,

886
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 6: a couple smart comments on the microphone and he's right

887
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 6: there fighting and you know, title eliminators all that type

888
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 6: of stuff. So he needs to deliver. We'll see how

889
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 6: much he's improved his game in terms of being well rounded.

890
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 6: Budai not the most exciting guy, but solid heavyweight. Nevertheless,

891
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 6: he needs to go out there and do something dominant

892
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 6: to get some traction there or we.

893
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: Need heavyweight, we need some viable heavyweights. It's time, like

894
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't.

895
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Speaker 5: Want one to blow up and there not to be

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Speaker 5: a third season of Chatre's one Championship Apprentice edition, But

897
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Speaker 5: wouldn't you love Umar Khan and uh and vitally or sorry,

898
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Speaker 5: what's Mallikin's for his name?

899
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Speaker 2: And totally that Mallekin.

900
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 5: Excuse me, I'd love to see those guys toiling in

901
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 5: the UFC just the same, all right, that is you,

902
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 5: Oh real quick too. TV Fighter Alert Turkey's Ebo arslon

903
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Speaker 5: it led heavyweight who got got submitted by the Hulk

904
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905
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Speaker 2: That guy makes fun fights every single time.

906
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Speaker 5: Maybe not full on Slava clause level, Mike, but you

907
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908
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a killer in there.

909
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: All right. That is your UFC Fight night for this Saturday.

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Speaker 5: let's go to topic number two right here, and let's bring

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953
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Speaker 5: talk about the slew of events for the fall that

954
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Speaker 5: Dana White and the UFC have announced.

955
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Speaker 2: Mike, Look, I get on them. I get on them aggressively.

956
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get on them later in this show about

957
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Speaker 5: this ali acbs.

958
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: But main event wise, late summer fall, we're what and

959
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Speaker 2: shit together?

960
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 8: Are we?

961
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 6: Not?

962
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: We are? This is a great, great streak.

963
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 6: The summer main events were good and looks like fall

964
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 6: is gonna be very nice too. I mean, you add

965
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 6: Islam and Jack to the back of the slid in November,

966
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 6: which is seeming likely, and then hey, if you can

967
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 6: get another Ilia Toporia fight to close the year in December.

968
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 6: I know he had said he was gonna be on

969
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Speaker 6: that card. We'll see if that comes to fruition. But

970
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 6: this is this is good stuff. The fighters are fighting BC.

971
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: Can you what I need? That's what I need. Okay,

972
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: we got to stop talking about promoters. Let's get into

973
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: it here. UFC three twenty of course, is October fourth

974
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, and this was the centerpiece of this

975
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: big announcement from Dana. Even though people are trying to

976
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: guess Pereira's weight on Twitter and trying to guess if

977
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: he was Aspinall's next opponent.

978
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 5: No, Alex Pereira will get that immediate rematch against new

979
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 5: light heavyweight champion Magamet and Klaia.

980
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: That's the main event.

981
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 5: And how about this for a damn colemane Morob de

982
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 5: Vos Pili will look for his third title defense this

983
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 5: calendar year and his quest to set a UFC record

984
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 5: for four in that twelve month period when he defends

985
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 5: against the always dangerous Cory Sanhagan. And they also added

986
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 5: a banger live Sir, I just met her. How about

987
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 5: Yeerie Prohatska and Khalil Rountree Junior at light heavyweight bombs

988
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 5: away Michael three twenty big business dude, Yeah, I love it.

989
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: It's a that's a great trio of fights.

990
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 6: We haven't really felt like they were straying away a

991
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 6: bit from the double title fight cards, as you know,

992
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 6: unless it's a bantomweight or a women's bandom weight, or

993
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 6: a women's fight or the flyweights on the men's side.

994
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 6: But this one, like this one two punch is amazing.

995
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 6: These are two prominent title fights featuring two amazing athletes,

996
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 6: four amazing athletes, and yeah, let's go. This is this

997
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 6: is good stuff and I'm really curious to see as

998
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 6: I'm sure we'll get into what this means for Alex

999
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 6: Prayer and what he can do with a win or well,

1000
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 6: let me ask.

1001
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: You that, well, let me ask you that I'm very

1002
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: happy that they didn't send him to heavyweight just to

1003
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: fill the whole of John Jones putting on that soap

1004
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 2: opera and now he wants to come back.

1005
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 5: You know what, John, why don't you off? All right,

1006
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 5: that's BC talk and not Mike Bone.

1007
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: All right.

1008
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, though, how happy are you

1009
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 5: to see him try to fix the glitch?

1010
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: Meaning no disrespect to Anklelive.

1011
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 5: I probably would have favored him against Pereira at any

1012
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 5: point when they fought, given the tough style matchup. But

1013
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 5: you did hear Alex say he wasn't one hundred percent,

1014
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 5: not as an excuse, but we know this guy turns

1015
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 5: around on no notice, injuries aside, and still gets it done.

1016
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 5: He kind of needs to fix this hole in the resume,

1017
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 5: in my opinion, before going to.

1018
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 6: Heavyweight, definitely, And it seems like that's what he wanted

1019
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 6: to do, right Like people are asking why are they

1020
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 6: doing this fight?

1021
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: No one cares about Anklive? What's the upside?

1022
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 6: This announcement for this particular one of the title fights

1023
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 6: was kind of met with like, eh, that's because we

1024
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 6: knew it was coming. But it depends how we got

1025
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 6: here and why. If Alex said this is the time

1026
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 6: I want to go to heavyweight, I'm sure they would

1027
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 6: have put him in there. Does that like right away

1028
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 6: for the title shot? Maybe not, Maybe he does another

1029
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 6: fight first. But Alex has earned himself the right to

1030
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 6: ask for whatever he wants, and if he went to

1031
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 6: the UFC and said, as you would put it, that

1032
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 6: was a glitch that night.

1033
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: I need to make this right.

1034
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 6: This is the fight I want, even if it's the

1035
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 6: one that you guys don't see. Is the most upside.

1036
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 6: He's earned the right to call a shot and try

1037
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 6: to fix that. There can be downside, a lot of

1038
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 6: downside for him here. I think like people just assume, Oh,

1039
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 6: if he loses again, he'll just go to heavyweight. Why

1040
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 6: why ism at heavyweight appealing if he loses this fight.

1041
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 6: I don't understand that, especially if he gets knocked out.

1042
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: Damn right, you just said it. That's the truth.

1043
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 5: That's the damn truth right there, and that's what you

1044
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 5: get on Morning Combat. Two pay per views in one month, though, Mike,

1045
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 5: because October twenty fifth is going to give us UFC

1046
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 5: three twenty one from Abu Dhabi, where we tend to

1047
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 5: get very good fights. Probably has something to do with

1048
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 5: a large site fee they get at these global destinations.

1049
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 5: But Tom Aspinall will take on Cyril Gone in the

1050
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 5: main event, his first defense of the full undisputed heavyweight Championship.

1051
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 5: We're also going to get Alexander Ratkich against Asim Matt

1052
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 5: Murza Khanoff at light heavyweight and alex Or Volkoff, who

1053
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 5: I know, probably the UFC didn't want to run back

1054
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 5: a Aspinall Volkoff rematch, even though Volkoff did lose that

1055
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 5: very questionable decision to Cyril Gohan. But when Danil White

1056
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 5: came up to and said, we'll take care of you kid,

1057
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 5: I apparently he met Jalalton Almeida, and I don't hate

1058
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 5: that fight either. What do you think about what we've

1059
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 5: seen here on October twenty fifth, Mike with Aspinall fighting Gon,

1060
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 5: who's not coming off a great performance.

1061
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm fascinated, just more so like by the outside optics.

1062
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 6: Like we can all agree we think Tom Asmall is

1063
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 6: gonna win this fight, right like I think he's he's

1064
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 6: gonna be heavily favored unless he slips on a banana

1065
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 6: field or you know, heavyweights heavyweight and someone lands a

1066
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 6: crazy shot and fish is the fight there. I'm more

1067
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 6: just interested to see how many people care about this fight,

1068
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 6: what kind of movement movement it has, because you can

1069
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 6: talk about Tom Aspinall being you know, a big deal.

1070
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 6: He's done great in the cage, amazing fights, amazing knockouts.

1071
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 6: This guy's never headlined a pay per view, this is

1072
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 6: his first one. He's being co made about on the

1073
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 6: other ones. This fight Skate Side will be in the

1074
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 6: middle of the day, one of those afternoon pay per views,

1075
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 6: and it's.

1076
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: Just a hard sell.

1077
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 6: Currel Gone is not going to go out there and

1078
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 6: start talking shit and trying to build this fight out.

1079
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 3: He already has the fight. You know.

1080
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 6: Tom's doing his part saying, you know, this is his

1081
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 6: third title shot. I'm going to rid the division of

1082
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 6: Cerel Gone as far as being a title contender for good.

1083
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 6: But beyond that, what's like the hype and all that

1084
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 6: stuff that it's going to draw the interestedness. So this

1085
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 6: is a big time like moment for Tom Aspital. Is

1086
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 6: he someone that fans will want to watch an afternoon

1087
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 6: pay per view against an opponent that's not doing much

1088
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 6: to drop up the fight. That will tell us a

1089
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 6: lot about how much people care. If this does banger

1090
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 6: numbers and everyone's talking about it, I think that's something

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00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 6: that maybe perks up John Jones's ears a little bit.

1092
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 6: Don't even want to go down that road, but uh yeah,

1093
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 6: this is gonna be very telling in many ways of

1094
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 6: what Tom Aspital actually is as an asset and an

1095
00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 6: interest point for the fans.

1096
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it would be telling as well if he

1097
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 5: you know, got pushed rounds, which no one's really been

1098
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 5: able to do, so that would be a big part

1099
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 5: of the entertainment factor.

1100
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: Long Island.

1101
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 5: Lucas shared with us the DraftKings odds for these fights

1102
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 5: on the Horizon aspen all minus three forty five to

1103
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 5: the plus two seven five gone makes a lot of sense.

1104
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 5: And we have real quick sound here from Tom Aspinall

1105
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 5: reacting to the announcement of this fight.

1106
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 3: Thanks, he's back. It's a it's about time.

1107
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 13: It is about time. It's been over a year since

1108
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 13: I thought it's crazy in it over a year and

1109
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 13: the whole time, I've been fit the whole time, everywhere

1110
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 13: to go doing what I've been told to do, which

1111
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 13: is stay ready. I've stayed ready. We know what's going on.

1112
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 13: We're not going to talk about that. But we now

1113
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 13: have a fight.

1114
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: We now have a.

1115
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 13: Fresh fight that I've been waiting to fight this guy

1116
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 13: for a long time and we finally get a chance.

1117
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 13: Twenty fifth of October. It's on heavyweight title is being contested.

1118
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 13: I'm very excutedspute, Yeah, I'm very excited about it.

1119
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 14: Say it was gonna stood cross from me because this

1120
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 14: is the fact that we've talked about for a long time.

1121
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 14: It could have should have maybe happened a little bit earlier,

1122
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 14: but we're finally here and getting the opportunity to defend

1123
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 14: undisputed as well.

1124
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 13: You gotta when you're in when you're in any any

1125
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 13: kind of position, you can never be looking past your opponent.

1126
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 13: So I'm not doing that by any stretch. So ultimately

1127
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 13: I want to beat everybody. That's that's my plan is.

1128
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 13: I don't just want to beat the next guy. I

1129
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 13: want to beat the next however many guys there are.

1130
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 13: But so it was a tough testment. I'm not looking

1131
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 13: past him at all. He's really good. He's really good.

1132
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 13: Like I said, new wave of heavyweight doesn't move like

1133
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 13: anyone I've ever really fought before. But also I don't

1134
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 13: move like anyone.

1135
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 3: So it's going to be fun, you know what.

1136
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 5: It felt like a disappointment when this was announced, although

1137
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 5: it's like what else are they going to do? I

1138
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 5: do really like the lessons that we have to learn

1139
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 5: here and the anticipation of seeing that I don't want

1140
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 5: necessarily gone to finish him. And then John Jones is like, see, guys,

1141
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 5: I was right all along.

1142
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: I plan this you know what I'm saying. But Tom

1143
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: seems to have the right attitude.

1144
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 5: This is the right match up here to keep this

1145
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 5: division moving and give him a shot, So I'm fired

1146
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 5: up for that.

1147
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: Also, UFC Vancouver October eighteenth.

1148
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 5: We're gonna get a three round menon farroh Jasmine Jazz,

1149
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 5: Davicius bout. I'm all in on that at Faro can

1150
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 5: bounce back from that competitive title loss to Valentina and

1151
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 5: UFC No. Ch Three, the downgraded Fight Night card from

1152
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 5: San Antonio that will go head to head with Canelo

1153
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 5: Crawford on Netflix with Dana White there announced the full card,

1154
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 5: just four Mexican born fighters on the card, in the

1155
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 5: third tribute to Mexico's heritage history, Diego Lopez versus Jan Silva. Yeah,

1156
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 5: Tatiana Suarez A Mandalemos, Yeah, Mike. Is anyone gonna watch

1157
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 5: this card?

1158
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 10: Though?

1159
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 5: If all the bosses and all the fans are watching

1160
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 5: Canelo o' Crawford, so all the Vexican fans are gonna

1161
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 5: watching Canelo?

1162
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: You know this?

1163
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1164
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 6: So from what I see here on ESPN's website says

1165
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 6: the prelums start at three pm Eastern. The main card

1166
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 6: starts at six pm Eastern, so I wonder how much

1167
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 6: overloap there will actually be. I would assume they'll effort

1168
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 6: their best to have it minimal. Maybe we're getting the

1169
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 6: main event is like the first or second fight of

1170
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 6: the night walks. I can't imagine a world where they're,

1171
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 6: you know, going forward with the Canelo Crawford fight, as

1172
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 6: they're still UFC event ongoing. I just don't see that,

1173
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 6: So I think it'll be okay. But yeah, the note Chay.

1174
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: Card is far from inspiring.

1175
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 6: They had this one's being a disaster right, Like the

1176
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 6: spear was the most spectacular, amazing thing, and then they

1177
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 6: try to go to Guadalajara for this new arena.

1178
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 3: It's freaking not finished. Like you have the card, Yeah,

1179
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: you have the card.

1180
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 6: Coolest level of scrambling in a little bit for something

1181
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 6: like this, But they're doing their best. The card as

1182
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 6: of right now is a little bit weird, but I'm

1183
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 6: sure they're going to do their best to maybe convince

1184
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 6: Alexa Grosso to take a fight. It's getting pretty close though,

1185
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 6: like we're like seven weeks away, so I'm surprised, Like

1186
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 6: Arena A Donna doesn't have a fight confirmed as we keep.

1187
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: Going there, so I think they'll try.

1188
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 6: But man, that main event is awesome, Like I can't

1189
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 6: wait for Silveraz.

1190
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: That's gonna all in on that, just the same.

1191
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 5: Also quickly on the DraftKings odds Anklia minus one eighty

1192
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 5: over the plus one fifty Perira and their rematch Morob

1193
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 5: minus three eighty against the plus three hundred Cory Sanaig

1194
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 5: And all right, let's keep it going here with topic

1195
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 5: number three, Eliot Taporia in the news after a uh

1196
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 5: after a long Sojean with the Nelk boys at his

1197
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 5: house produced some very interesting content, including further juice to

1198
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 5: the headlines about a potential title defense against armand Sarrukian

1199
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 5: that La Laenda himself doesn't seem to want at all.

1200
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: Let's go to the videotape.

1201
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 3: Listen.

1202
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 11: When you put so much effort in the game and

1203
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 11: you have a guy in front who you don't know.

1204
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: That maybe he could pull out.

1205
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 11: From the fire, that's not something good for for us.

1206
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: It's not my back, bro.

1207
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 11: I don't fucking care you're gonna give him a fight

1208
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 11: before the title shot, because there is no wave I'm

1209
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 11: the world champion. I'm never gonna give him a chance

1210
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 11: to fight for the title. I will be like, listen,

1211
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 11: if that's the case, take my belt. I don't do it.

1212
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 2: So, Mike Bone, I really want to love this guy

1213
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: right here. Okay, I really do. But that is some

1214
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: shots fired. Oh, by the way, brought to you by Quervo.

1215
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 4: There.

1216
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 5: Well, geez for the mis execution there, but you get

1217
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 5: the point just the same. I want to back to

1218
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 5: Poria because you cannot deny the talent, the star power,

1219
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 5: the guy. We need to take that baton and in

1220
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 5: some ways be the face of this company and build

1221
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 5: towards this inevitable eventual super fight with this with Isla

1222
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 5: Maha che number one to two pound for pound, no matter.

1223
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 2: How you have them.

1224
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 5: But when you see this from him, the arrogainst the

1225
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 5: the level of like, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

1226
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 5: fight this guy. I know sar Yukn has one fight

1227
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 5: in six hundred days right now at this moment, I

1228
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 5: know he pulled out of his title shot.

1229
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 2: What do you make of the aggression to say no,

1230
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 2: not you arman. Well, if I'm correct, I'm pretty sure.

1231
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: After he knocked out Alexander Volkanovski, Ilia Taporia said he

1232
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: was not gonna fight Max Hollway and not give him

1233
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: a title shot, and that's the fight we end up getting.

1234
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 6: So I put little to no stock in this. I

1235
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 6: agree Armand's not gonna be next like Ilia. I think

1236
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 6: it's probably gonna end up fighting Justin Gatchee next. That's

1237
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 6: my personal opinion, not reporting anything here, just the way

1238
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 6: things seem to be trending from what I've seen in

1239
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 6: recent days and weeks. So I think he's just messing

1240
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 6: with him a little bit, trying to troll him. I

1241
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 6: do think if push came to shove in the UFC

1242
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 6: said Ilia, this is the fight we want. Here's the contract,

1243
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 6: he's gonna sign it. Like he's not gonna take a

1244
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 6: stance and say no, I'm not doing this. Take the

1245
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 6: bell and book justin versus Armin for the vacant belt,

1246
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 6: like that's not happening.

1247
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: So he's messing with him.

1248
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 6: He knows that fight isn't there anyways, and maybe it's,

1249
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 6: you know, some promotional stuff that he's working on. But

1250
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 6: for him to sit there and say like I would

1251
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 6: rather give up the belt than do that, I mean,

1252
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 6: come on, bro, that's yeah.

1253
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: I And of course shots fired brought to you by Quervo.

1254
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 5: Now is as good a time to enjoy the tequila

1255
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 5: that invented tequila.

1256
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Thank you, Brought to you by Cuervo.

1257
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 5: And of course they're behind our pregame previews UFC three

1258
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 5: nineteen on the horizon.

1259
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: Who will be our third guest? Get ready to get

1260
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: fired up for that.

1261
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 5: We do have some responses though, in this conversation, and

1262
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 5: that's a tweet, first from armand Saryukian, who said, imagine

1263
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 5: calling yourself a champion, but you're already looking for a

1264
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 5: way out. You can vacate it or I'll take it.

1265
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:54,479
Speaker 5: Either way, it's mine. And then the creative video meme

1266
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 5: idea here from Arman bringing out his pet duck.

1267
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, good boy, I'll make it quick.

1268
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 6: No wise, good boy.

1269
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: That man lives a good life. It seems okay. I'm

1270
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: not trying to talk about his bank account.

1271
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 5: I'm also not trying to talk about to Pouria putting

1272
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 5: over the Nelk Boys' podcast with Nitt and Yahoo and

1273
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 5: all right, that's it. I know that's for Luke Thomas's

1274
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 5: political podcast right there, But uh, would would Arman try

1275
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 5: to sit out in and in further this inactivity to

1276
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 5: try to get a title shot, or would he have

1277
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 5: to go through a Patty Pimble and a Max Holloway

1278
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 5: to try to keep keep pace atop this division.

1279
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to go through someone. I mean he

1280
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 3: credit to him.

1281
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 6: He's doing what he's trying to do that video, like

1282
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 6: he's putting himself out there a little bit. This is

1283
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 6: some obvious tension. You know, no George and Love here.

1284
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 6: It seems to be Georgian hate between these two. So it's, uh,

1285
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 6: it's building to something. But this guy needs to to

1286
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 6: prove something right. You don't out of a title fight

1287
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 6: on way and day for any reason and just automatically

1288
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 6: get the good graces of another title shot. Like it's

1289
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 6: just it's not the way it's ever been. It's not

1290
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 6: the way it's gonna be. He needs to do something

1291
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 6: here and he knows it, like he did step one

1292
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 6: by making Wade as the alternate for UFC three seventeen

1293
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 6: and said he would do it again for UFC three eighteen.

1294
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 6: Wasn't needed, but he's at least efforting. I think his

1295
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 6: big f up along the way is when they offered

1296
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 6: him Mattias Gamrot for the Saudi main event or maybe

1297
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 6: Abi Dabi on this car tomorrow. It was something on

1298
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 6: that side of the world, and he said no for

1299
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 6: what we're still We're here seven months ish after that

1300
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 6: fight was supposed to happen with Islam in January, and

1301
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 6: nothing has happened. You've really made no forward progress. You

1302
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 6: haven't fought, you have no fight booked, like before we

1303
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 6: know it, he's gonna be out for a year, and

1304
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 6: like it's just not the right situation. So who knows

1305
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 6: if they offer him any fight, you got to take

1306
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 6: it on whatever car and just get to win.

1307
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 3: Make your statement on the mic.

1308
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 6: We have it all building here with you and Ilia,

1309
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 6: and maybe you get that fight, but right now it's

1310
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 6: not next for them, So this is all just window

1311
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 6: dressing until we get you know, Ilia's next fight, in

1312
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 6: their next fight, because maybe they're on a collision course,

1313
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 6: maybe it happens if they both lose, whatever, but right now,

1314
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 6: like I would be shocked if Armin Shrukin's next fight

1315
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 6: was for the USC lightweight title.

1316
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Speaker 2: I'm with you, but this division very fun at the top.

1317
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 5: We got Max reinserted, we got Patty looking for a

1318
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 5: big fight. Gechee still linger and lets fin go all right,

1319
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 5: let's go to topic number four as we close out

1320
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 5: our time here with a very generous here Mike Bond

1321
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 5: of MMA Junkie and the Bonfire Fame. But when we

1322
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 5: do have first time guests like this, we like to

1323
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 5: close with a little bit of fun. Sean's Dettel still

1324
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 5: the come around the Corner. But first let's play a

1325
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 5: little segment fun we call getting to know Mike Bone.

1326
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 5: All right, I've got seven personal questions. Let's see if

1327
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 5: Mike has seven personal answers or pype we find out

1328
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 5: he was a varsity athlete, just like Aaron Bronstead or

1329
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 5: back in the day. Mike, let's go number one here

1330
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 5: on this personal hot seat. What do you believe makes

1331
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 5: you different from everyone else in the competitive MMA media space.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think the thing that allowed me to

1333
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 6: stand out early was just my you know, leaning on

1334
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 6: the facts and the stats and that type of stuff

1335
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 6: that no one was really doing at the time when

1336
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 6: I came in. I don't even know if fight metric

1337
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 6: was a thing when I started doing this. Coming up,

1338
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 6: it'll be thirteen years that MMA Junkie on August first,

1339
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 6: so it's been a long time there. And I think

1340
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 6: the ability that when I came in MMA Junkie was

1341
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 6: not really doing any video, no social media presence outside

1342
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,959
Speaker 6: of a Twitter in a Facebook count, I think, and

1343
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 6: I had the opportunity to kind of shape all that

1344
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 6: stuff and what we do and start, like, you know,

1345
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 6: moving towards videotype content and all those things. So I think,

1346
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 6: you know, it's hard to replicate. I can't sit here

1347
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 6: and be like, do this to anyone else who's inspired,

1348
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 6: like aspiring. I got in at a great time, at

1349
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 6: a young age and was given a platform, an opportunity

1350
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 6: where I could do a lot of the things I

1351
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 6: wanted to do and try to grow things, and that's

1352
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 6: all kind of coupled, you know, what I've been able

1353
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 6: to do, and definitely the opportunities to travel to some

1354
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 6: places around the world, Japan, Brazil, like five times, Australia,

1355
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,439
Speaker 6: all these things which a lot of people in MMA

1356
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 6: media are not fortunate enough to be able to do.

1357
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 6: And I've been really grateful for those opportunities. But you know,

1358
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 6: the more you're on the road, the more you get

1359
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 6: to know people and entrench yourself in this industry. And

1360
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,479
Speaker 6: I've been given a lot of chances to do that over,

1361
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 6: you know, a dozen plus years, so I guess that's

1362
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 6: I'd say the opportunities I've been given have been maybe

1363
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 6: different from people, and I'd like to think I've tried

1364
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 6: to take advantage of them to the best.

1365
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's clear that you have, Mike. You're not the

1366
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 5: young kid on the block. You're in the midst of

1367
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 5: your prime and doing a great job. And I see

1368
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 5: the rapport you have with the fighters. That shows me

1369
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 5: that you're a fair and friendly individual. And certainly you

1370
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 5: have been in your coverage of the big stories and

1371
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 5: sometimes you gotta take sides on things like that. Let's

1372
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 5: keep it going here and find a little bit more

1373
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 5: about Mike. I'm not sure if you've heard, Mike, but

1374
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 5: I was cage side for a little fight called that

1375
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 5: out of Sanya Gastel and at UFC two thirty six.

1376
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 5: That damn near changed my life. In twenty nineteen, Hey,

1377
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 5: shout out to Max and dustin part two couldn't live

1378
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 5: up to it. I had that same feeling when Wayley

1379
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 5: and Yowana damn near killed themselves in the first fight

1380
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty.

1381
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Speaker 2: What's the best fight you've ever covered? Cage side?

1382
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 5: As an MMA journalist, that just gave you those unforgettable feeling.

1383
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 6: There's a few men the two you mentioned, I also

1384
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 6: had the privilege of being there amazing nights. Other ones

1385
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 6: that stand out Yuri Prohaska and Glover to Shera and

1386
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 6: Singapore was a cool one that was an amazing fight

1387
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 6: and always weird when it's happening out like eleven in

1388
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 6: the morning local time, right. I think the first fight

1389
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 6: of the day on that card in Singapore was like

1390
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 6: five am or something. So those are always like, you know,

1391
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 6: a little bit more eerie, especially you know in that

1392
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 6: part of the world where the crowd just has a

1393
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 6: bit of a different energy when a war like that

1394
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 6: is going on. But another one here in Toronto, the

1395
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 6: first UFC event actually ever covered for MMA Junkie was

1396
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 6: John Jones versus Alexander Gustafson one UFC one sixty five.

1397
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 6: That was like literally just right down the street here

1398
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 6: and that was still to this day one of the

1399
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 6: greatest fights I've ever seen in person. Had the chance

1400
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 6: of sitting next to I believe we'll talk about a

1401
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 6: bit the late Jordan Breen.

1402
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 3: That almost special to me.

1403
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 6: Another Toronto shout out cub Swanson and do Whu CHOI

1404
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 6: was amazing and Connor McGregor versus Nadas two was a

1405
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 6: pretty special one as well.

1406
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 3: At UFC two O two.

1407
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: Well, I think you could fill Luke Thomas's shoes.

1408
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 5: You gave me twenty five answers for one question, but

1409
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 5: one I did appreciate hearing the big moments that meant

1410
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 5: a ton to you.

1411
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: You never, you know, you are changed to some degree

1412
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 2: by these crazy fights, you know what I mean. You'll

1413
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: never forget how you felt.

1414
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 5: You'll never and I'm always thankful for the access we

1415
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 5: do get in those situations. We're not only ringside cage side.

1416
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 5: A lot of times we're backstage interviewing them right after too.

1417
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 5: So that's what keeps us a fan, and that's what

1418
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 5: fuels our passion ultimately for this game.

1419
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: All right, Mike MK culture is wild.

1420
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 5: It's you know, we make fun of each other on

1421
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 5: an aggressive basis, and you know, maybe to a negative degree,

1422
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 5: you've been framed as a handsy airline passenger and a

1423
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 5: ladies man.

1424
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: When it comes to the ladies and airplanes.

1425
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 5: I gotta ask, what is the real story Luke Thomas

1426
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 5: referenced about you meeting a chick on a plane and

1427
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,439
Speaker 5: maybe even making out with her right there.

1428
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 2: Then what happened.

1429
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 6: If it wasn't for the show, this story would have

1430
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 6: been left in the past for no one to reference

1431
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 6: or recall or anything like that. But speaking of big fights,

1432
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 6: it was on the way to a big fight, Mayweather

1433
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 6: versus McGregor, Max, you know, get on the plane and

1434
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 6: sat on the tarmac I think for two or so hours.

1435
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 3: A nice woman sitting next to me. We started chatting

1436
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 3: while we were waiting.

1437
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 6: They bring us some drinks and then we find out

1438
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 6: we're getting deplaned, which was not ideal because I think

1439
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 6: that's when they were doing the grand entrances for that

1440
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 6: fight week, so I think I had to write off

1441
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 6: being able to make it down there in time for that.

1442
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 6: But when they deplained us, I think they said it

1443
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 6: was like a four hour layover that we'd be waiting for.

1444
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 6: Gave everyone like a fifty dollars gift card to go

1445
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 6: spend at the bar, so you keep drinking a bit,

1446
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 6: get back on the plane. Seating's the same, And that

1447
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 6: point had had a few hours with this nice a

1448
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 6: little bit, so I mean, maybe it was just a

1449
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 6: kiss goodbye.

1450
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 3: We'll see I'll leave it at that.

1451
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we'll leave that in history. It doesn't make

1452
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: it any less impressive that you had that in between time,

1453
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: but you did use you use that in between time

1454
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 2: outside the plane to your your advantage.

1455
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 5: I mean, that's how a real man operates. Apparently, well done,

1456
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 5: Mike Bone. Hopefully there's no females in your life watching

1457
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 5: right now, Let's go to question number four. You shared,

1458
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 5: obviously to go from ridiculous to serious, touching tributes regarding

1459
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 5: the end of former MMA pundin you know, ahead of

1460
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 5: his game and podcast and radio, the great Jordan Breen.

1461
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 5: I remember his work on Showtime fondly and the role

1462
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 5: that you played as a friend in his life, maybe

1463
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 5: who kept track of him at times, and certainly his

1464
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 5: passing is a very tough moment for many in the

1465
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 5: MMA industry, including you, Mike. But on a positive note,

1466
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 5: what would you say are the most important thing you

1467
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 5: learned from Jordan Breen that you've tried to apply to

1468
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 5: this industry.

1469
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 6: I think just nott to take it too seriously, right, Like,

1470
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, this is people fistfighting

1471
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 6: in a cage, half naked, in front of the whole world,

1472
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 6: and as much as we want to treat it like

1473
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 6: a real sports or you know, put it in the

1474
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 6: context of oh, it's just a niche sport and all

1475
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 6: those things, Like the end of the day, it's pretty

1476
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 6: amazing and goofy that we got to cover this for

1477
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 6: a living and that it's turned into what it is,

1478
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 6: and just his appreciation for those ridiculous and weird and

1479
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 6: wild aspects of this or which is his biggest passion

1480
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 6: early on Japanese MMA.

1481
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 3: Things like that.

1482
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 6: Really learned a lot about a lot of people, a

1483
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 6: lot of fighters through him.

1484
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 3: Just knowledge that I could never ever.

1485
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 6: Have gained myself because it doesn't exist out there for

1486
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 6: you know, stories to read or things like that. He

1487
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 6: had a supercomputer of a brain, probably forgot more about

1488
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 6: the finite details of the sport than I'll ever learn.

1489
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 3: And you know, I think that's saying a lot. So

1490
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 3: a special mind.

1491
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 6: We you know, lost a great person for our MMA community,

1492
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 6: I'll just say. And closing on this, his memorial service

1493
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 6: is actually tomorrow.

1494
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 3: Out there in Halifax.

1495
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 6: All the information is posted on my x account with

1496
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 6: a link and there's still the link to the GoFundMe

1497
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 6: in his name. We are trying to launch a scholarship

1498
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 6: at the University of Queen's College in his honor and

1499
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 6: hopefully give someone who's passionate about sports media, mixed martial arts, media,

1500
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 6: whatever it may be, the opportunity to, you know, be

1501
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 6: in a scholarship under his name and help their educational

1502
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 6: efforts be guided with DOT. So if anyone has the

1503
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 6: means to donate, we're still working towards our goal. I

1504
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 6: think we're about sixty percent of the way there, So appreciate.

1505
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 2: You sharing all that, Mike. Definitely a great tribute to

1506
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 2: a unique individual with a unique style, So certainly appreciate

1507
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 2: the friendship you had and the nice things that you've

1508
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 2: said about him after his passing.

1509
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 5: A couple more and then we'll get you out of here. Mike,

1510
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 5: I mentioned earlier in the show that I was wrong.

1511
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 5: You had appeared on an MK episode in the past,

1512
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 5: and that was the twenty twenty two Beer House Live

1513
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 5: three Margarita's show that was a debacle from start to

1514
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 5: finish and Luke Thomas drank himself into podcast legendary status

1515
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 5: with his with the Fury of his frat guy Marine histrionics.

1516
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 5: What do you remember most about trying to be part

1517
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 5: of that Q and A given to give and take

1518
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 5: talk session we have.

1519
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you said it trying to be I

1520
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 6: don't know if I'd love to go back and rerack

1521
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 6: the tape and see how many words I actually spent

1522
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 6: comparatively to the amount of minutes I was up there,

1523
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 6: because it is lopside, and to say the least, I

1524
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 6: think it was just weird because I think I came

1525
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 6: straight in from ceremonial wins or the press conference, whatever

1526
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 6: it was that day, and I was not on the

1527
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 6: level or even remotely close. I tried to catch up

1528
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 6: a little bit, but I was not in place with

1529
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 6: the vibe of that, and it was just like, Okay,

1530
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 6: when can we make a clean exit out of this situation.

1531
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 6: I love being up there, but it got to the

1532
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 6: point where you're up there for fifteen minutes. I think

1533
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 6: I said two words and I was like, okay, guys,

1534
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 6: let's work on an exit point here.

1535
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 5: I felt bad, I really did, but it turned out

1536
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 5: to be a legendary.

1537
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 2: Moment in MK history. We appreciate the role you played

1538
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 2: in it. Mike.

1539
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 5: Three months ago, on your Bonfire Podcast. Congratulations on launching that.

1540
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 5: You set up shopping Kayla Harrison's backyard. We got a

1541
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 5: fire pit, we got an EMU. I'm a big fan

1542
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 5: of Kayla's personal journey and really the image, the inspiration

1543
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 5: she puts out there. What was the biggest takeaway you

1544
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 5: had from that very unique episode of your podcet.

1545
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 6: Just on top of that, we did like a big

1546
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 6: feature on her life for MMA Junkie, So just the access,

1547
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 6: Like you know, she led us into her home there

1548
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 6: for hours, like completely care free about our presence there,

1549
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 6: and you know, like welcomed us into her home like

1550
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 6: it was our own. And she's got an incredible compound

1551
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 6: there her her guest house I could only aspire to

1552
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 6: have as my real house at some point size wise.

1553
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 6: So she took that PFL money and made it very

1554
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 6: well invested in and like she's got a freaking classroom

1555
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 6: where she homeschools her your children in there. She's got

1556
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 6: everything she needs and it was really cool to be there.

1557
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 3: A lot of bugs.

1558
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 6: Running around, but a lot of you know, animals that

1559
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 6: she intends on, I think even expanding more like her

1560
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 6: farm and rebuilding all this stuff.

1561
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's very cool.

1562
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 6: She's a very wholesome and down to earth person, and

1563
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 6: I already knew that coming in, but once she lets

1564
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 6: you into her home and you know, you see how

1565
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 6: everyone behaves there, it's it's even more impressive. So I

1566
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 6: guess the most memorable thing was that moment from the

1567
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 6: screenshot right there, like that was that was one hundred

1568
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 6: percent genuine. I'm sitting there fully focused on chatting with her,

1569
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 6: and I turned around and felt like I was about

1570
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 6: to get my eyes pecked out, and I according to her,

1571
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 6: it was because I have the silver chain on there

1572
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 6: and he liked shiny things.

1573
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 3: Oh all right, put my eyes off of that.

1574
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 5: It reminds me of that time in Phoenix ahead of

1575
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 5: that Jake Paul fight when he had it when he

1576
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 5: came in on a horse and the horse bit Luke

1577
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,440
Speaker 5: right away was like, oh, I know this guy's not trustworthy.

1578
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 2: No, but good stuff.

1579
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,799
Speaker 5: Big fan of the women's bantamweight champion there in the UFC.

1580
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 5: And to close, Mike Bone your visit today, thank you

1581
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 5: very much. We all have goals and dreams, right, some

1582
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 5: people even have ways and means. I've been lucky of

1583
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 5: late to call boxing on the highest level, which just

1584
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 5: tickles me, you know, incredibly, it's the greatest job of

1585
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 5: all time. If Mike Bond had his way, where would

1586
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 5: you be in five to ten years from the standpoint

1587
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,520
Speaker 5: of that's my dream destination.

1588
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, So is such a tough one because I thought

1589
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 6: like I got the dream jobs so early on, right, Like,

1590
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 6: there's so many years where I was watching everyone in

1591
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 6: this industry do their thing Ariel Luke, the list goes

1592
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,799
Speaker 6: on and on, John Morgan, and just dreamed of being,

1593
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 6: you know, in that spot, being able to talk to

1594
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 6: these athletes and you know, engage with them every day.

1595
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 6: And you know, as I said earlier, thirteen years at

1596
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 6: MMA Junkie coming up on August first, and you know,

1597
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 6: it's an honor. MMA media is is a difficult landscape.

1598
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 6: There's a lot of you know, risk of burnout and

1599
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 6: it's just a number ending, no off week type of thing.

1600
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 6: But I am still feeling like I'm as passionate as

1601
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,839
Speaker 6: ever about it. And you see, you know, the shrinking

1602
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 6: opportunities things like that, Like if there's still a position

1603
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 6: like this add an MMA junkie at things like that

1604
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 6: in the next five or ten years, that would be awesome.

1605
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 6: In itself, and of course, just naturally you want to

1606
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 6: keep progressing up and doing their thing.

1607
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 3: But I love being on this side.

1608
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not gonna sit here and be like

1609
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 6: I'd love to be, you know, an ESPN analyst on

1610
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 6: a UFC, you know, broadcast or.

1611
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 3: In the booth ring like that.

1612
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 6: Like, I love being on this side and engaging and

1613
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 6: hopefully as things evolve, you know, with the podcast continuing out, Junkie,

1614
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 6: I can just continue trying to be an important presence

1615
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 6: on the media side and tell these people's stories and

1616
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 6: educate the fans and all that type of stuff.

1617
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 3: Like I've already lived in the dream.

1618
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 6: I would be honored if I could continue to do

1619
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 6: this for another five to ten years. Oh yeah, you know,

1620
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 6: with the natural progression that comes along with them.

1621
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 2: Hell yeah.

1622
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 5: And you did bring up the obvious part that this

1623
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 5: business changing so fast in front of us. You know,

1624
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 5: you might be either working for Dano or not one day. Okay,

1625
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 5: but hopefully not, we don't get to that point. Mike

1626
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 5: Bond MMA Junkie the Bonfire Podcast.

1627
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 2: There.

1628
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 5: I don't know why we waited this long to get

1629
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 5: you on. Appreciate you taking the time to fill in

1630
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 5: for Lou Thomas today.

1631
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 3: No, thank you so much. BC.

1632
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 6: Hope to come back at some point, and you're definitely

1633
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,839
Speaker 6: in the queue for an appearance on the Bonfire.

1634
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 3: So let's make it happen.

1635
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 5: That's what I'm talking about. Let's get so, let's crack

1636
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 5: some beers. We'll go hang out with some EMUs right there.

1637
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: I love to hear that.

1638
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 5: Follow him on the social media handles, were you Mike

1639
01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 5: bon Mma.

1640
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 3: Probably Mike on x Mike bon emme on Instagram?

1641
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 5: There it is Toronto's finest. Thank you so much. We

1642
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 5: great having you on this show. Sean's a tel right

1643
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 5: around the corner. But first, let me tell you about

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Speaker 5: All right, we let off with some MMA, but you know,

1675
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 5: my heart beats box and I'm very excited to bring

1676
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 5: on a first time guest analyst here as Luke Thomas

1677
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 5: rounds out this vacation. A boy, we got some big

1678
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 5: things to talk about from Las Vegas with love, but

1679
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,799
Speaker 5: he's in New York this weekend to cover the final

1680
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 5: top rank card on ESPN. He's a boxing podcaster and insider.

1681
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 5: Sean Zetel Brother, thank you for joining us today.

1682
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 2: How are you.

1683
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 10: I'm good, I'm good, Brian, Thank you for coming here.

1684
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 10: I hope it's not amateur hour on my part. I

1685
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 10: thank you for the opportunity. Shout out to Luke as well.

1686
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 10: And I'm actually at the world's most famous arena right now,

1687
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 10: getting ready for Xanders Aos to weigh in for his

1688
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 10: vacant WBO Super Well Toway title fight against Orge gar Cfres,

1689
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 10: who upset Charles Conwell. I was at that fight back

1690
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 10: in April. Zios is fighting for a belt. Sebastian Fundora

1691
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,799
Speaker 10: vacated who just knocked out Tim Zoo in the rematch

1692
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 10: you commentated on Amazon Prime.

1693
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,440
Speaker 8: So That's where I'm at right now, Brian.

1694
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 2: That's where yeah. Well, You've been doing fantastic work.

1695
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 5: I came across well, I saw you in person a

1696
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 5: lot of fights, but didn't know you. But when I

1697
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 5: started to see the work you do on the porter

1698
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 5: Way podcast with Sean Porter, I realized, not only yeah

1699
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 5: there it is now only do you have a shitload

1700
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 5: of NFL replica jerseys in your closet, but damn you

1701
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 5: got some great opinions you haven't been afraid to share

1702
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 5: them of late.

1703
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 2: So what outlets are you? Where can people find your

1704
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: work these days?

1705
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 10: So for the longest time I was at the Boxing

1706
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 10: Voice and Fight Hype, proud to have had stops there.

1707
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 10: They both are continuing to have a lot of success.

1708
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 10: Shout out to them. And I went the independent route. Brian,

1709
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 10: I've oh yeah, and I've turned down some gigs, so

1710
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 10: you know, it's not for lack of opportunity. Some of

1711
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 10: them were gigs funded by what went on to be

1712
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 10: the Ring magazine owned by Turkey Ala Chek now so,

1713
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 10: but I wanted to stay independent so I could be

1714
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 10: as truthful as possible while remaining respectful of course, And

1715
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 10: so between the Portaway podcast, I had some appearances on

1716
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 10: The Fight Life from ESPN in the last couple of weeks.

1717
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 10: But I'm really just holding it down on my channel,

1718
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 10: trying to do with Joe Rogan and Pat McAfee and

1719
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 10: Jason Whitlock and with all these guys and yourself and

1720
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 10: Luke have done. Just build your own platform to where

1721
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 10: you don't have to compromise so much and what you

1722
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 10: want to say, well.

1723
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 5: I certainly respect that in a very big way and

1724
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 5: wish you luck and hope everybody follows your work moving forward.

1725
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 5: Let's get into our big story today. It is a

1726
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 5: big one, it really is, even though it crosses over

1727
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:14,560
Speaker 5: to both Combat Sports Congress preparing a TKO backed bipartisan

1728
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 5: bill that would amend the Muhammad Ali Boxing REFORMAC that

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Speaker 5: first came to life in nineteen ninety six and then

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01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 5: was briefly amended in two thousand, adding Ali's name, and

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01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 5: the whole goal here, of course, is to create a

1732
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 5: UFC like business model for boxing now Sean.

1733
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 2: The reactions have been polarizing and aggressive in each direction,

1734
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: even though this bill has yet to be voted on

1735
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 2: and to really hit where it's gonna hit later this year.

1736
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 2: But even though we knew this was coming, seeing the details,

1737
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 2: the two representatives, one Democrat in Sharise Davis representative, the

1738
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 2: former MMA fighter, and then Brian Jack on the Republican

1739
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: side that I'm seeing, you know, rightfully journalist in the

1740
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 2: no go and hold up, hold up. This may be

1741
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 2: billed as being all about the fighters, but this ain't

1742
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: nothing but all about TKO.

1743
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 5: But I have seen on the flip side boxing fans going, well,

1744
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 5: what are we gonna do? Go back to the four

1745
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 5: belt system and the ridiculous rankings and all this stuff.

1746
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 2: A lot of people want to see a unified boxing.

1747
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 2: They want to see a cleaned up boxing. What do

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01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: you think this announcement really says?

1749
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 5: Though, after digging into the details and trying to figure

1750
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 5: out what TKO's trying to.

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Speaker 8: Do here, well, I have a I have a different

1752
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 8: name for the Act. I don't think this twenty twenty.

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01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 10: Five bill should be called the ALI Act. I think

1754
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 10: it should be called the Ari Act. You know, change,

1755
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 10: change the L two n R. This is the RI

1756
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 10: Act for Ari Emmanuel, who of course heads the TKO group.

1757
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,719
Speaker 10: This bill really has nothing to do in the spirit

1758
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 10: of the original ALI Act in two thousand. It's about UBOs,

1759
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 10: unified boxing organizations, and.

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01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 8: You know that's what it's really about.

1761
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 10: And before we get to how boxing fans should do this,

1762
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 10: because they're right, I mean, boxing has been become so

1763
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 10: fractured and the last two plus decades have seen the

1764
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 10: sport decline that I understand why they're trying to pitch

1765
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 10: this as the American Revival Act. But before we get

1766
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 10: to that, Brian, I know I may look like I

1767
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 10: preface this because I know I may look like a

1768
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 10: long haired hippie and all that, but I'm actually not.

1769
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 10: I'm actually an independent. So but this, this critique I'm

1770
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 10: about to have does not come from the place people

1771
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 10: may think it comes from.

1772
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 8: I'm center of Aisle.

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01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 3: I don't.

1774
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 8: I actually don't vote.

1775
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 10: But anyways, point being, the irony is not lost on

1776
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 10: me that mister free market capitalist America first, Dana White

1777
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 10: is trying to institute a socialist pay scale with the

1778
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 10: with the lollipop being free healthcare.

1779
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 8: That's just very funny to me.

1780
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 10: That he that that's that's kind of the pitch to

1781
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 10: get to get people again.

1782
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 8: I'll say it again, Canada's pitch.

1783
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 2: I think that's Canada's pitch too.

1784
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 10: Right, And and he's doing this, mind you, so Dana said,

1785
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 10: if you have just a little bit of savage in

1786
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 10: you in today in twenty twenty five, you can go

1787
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 10: straight to the top.

1788
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 8: This is not savage of Dana White and Ari Emmanuel.

1789
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 10: This is subversive, not savage, subversive because they to hold

1790
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 10: hands with Turkey Alas she literally hold hands if you're

1791
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 10: Dana White and have him kind of lean on you

1792
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 10: to subvert us law. And then Ari Emmanuel, we know

1793
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 10: his connections. He was once Donald Trump's agent. His brother

1794
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 10: was worked in both Barack Obama and Joe Biden's political cabinets.

1795
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 10: So this is a guy who who wields more power

1796
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 10: than just about anybody in Hollywood and then politically has

1797
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 10: his hands in both aisles and can get what he

1798
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 10: wants done. And then Brian Jack, of course, I think

1799
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 10: it'll be mentioned on the show later he accepted thirty

1800
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 10: three thousand dollars.

1801
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 2: Let's show that. Yeah, you can show that tweet Long Island, Luke.

1802
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 2: So this is a tweet.

1803
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 5: You can back it up on that website OpenSecrets dot

1804
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,480
Speaker 5: org that Congressman Brian Jack one of the two representatives,

1805
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 5: this one on the Republican side that is aggressively pushing

1806
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 5: this for TKO. He received thirty three thousand campaign fund

1807
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 5: from BGR Group in twenty twenty three to twenty four.

1808
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 5: That same group represents the Muslim World League and NNGO

1809
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 5: funded by the Saudi government.

1810
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 10: Right, So, Dana's group is actually trying to hurt free

1811
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 10: market les fair capitalism in boxing, which has produced a

1812
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 10: Floyd Mayweather produced the Mike Tyson. And it's amazing to

1813
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 10: me that Congress could even entertain trying to pass this

1814
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 10: bill by when the ink's not even drive from UFC's

1815
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 10: three hundred and seventy five million dollar lawsuit, and that

1816
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 10: lawsuits only number one of two. Right, Brian, it's amazing

1817
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 10: that you could be trying to establish a UFC like

1818
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 10: model when you're about to undergo your second antitrust suit

1819
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 10: for said model. It's so much to impact at once,

1820
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 10: and if this comes at a time where UFC is

1821
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 10: not firing on all cylinders the Connor McGregor's look. Even

1822
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 10: I don't watch mixed martial arts, Brian, but even I

1823
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 10: know John Jones, in so many words, kind of ducked

1824
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 10: Francis and Ganu and then certainly ducked Tom aspinall.

1825
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 8: So Dana is running in Connor McGregor.

1826
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 10: He can't get him back in the octagon, no matter

1827
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 10: how many times Connor says he's gonna come back in

1828
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 10: the octagon. Ronda Rowsey's long retired. Once he actually produces

1829
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 10: the Star, he runs into the same issues you run

1830
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 10: into with fighters in boxing. They want autonomy and they

1831
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 10: want a piece of the pie that they're entitled to.

1832
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 10: And what's not outlined in this bill is any transparency

1833
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 10: to the fighters. To the fighters, Look, this is your

1834
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 10: fight more than it is hours right at the end

1835
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 10: of the day, you guys gotta do something, especially the

1836
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 10: more higher paid fighters and the fighters who are getting

1837
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 10: overpaid right now by the system. Look, I read the

1838
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 10: whole twenty one page bill, but I don't I tell

1839
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 10: the audience you don't really have to do that. Two

1840
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 10: plus two is four If Turkey ala Chic is coming

1841
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 10: in overspending fighters, even making Eddie Hearn and al Haymen

1842
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 10: blush who wants overspent fighters to try to get their

1843
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 10: model off the ground. They they are the Canelos, the Crawfords,

1844
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 10: the Devin Haney's, the Shakur's, the eggar Berlangas, on and

1845
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 10: on and on. They are accepting getting overpaid and maybe

1846
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 10: closing the door behind them for fighters to ever be

1847
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 10: able to do that again. There's a reason why, despite

1848
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 10: there's a reason why, despite the UFC being such a

1849
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 10: well boiled machine compared to the Wild West Cluster, you

1850
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 10: know what that boxing is. But despite that, it's kind

1851
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 10: of like the free market. Yeah, sometimes you get poor

1852
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 10: people on welfare, but then it also produces a lot

1853
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 10: of innovation and riches. And that's your Floyd Mayweather's, that's

1854
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 10: your Mike Tyson's, and that's why you're Conor McGregor's, your

1855
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 10: Francis and Gan who's had to play the B side

1856
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 10: to this guys, to these guys, And I really feel

1857
01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 10: like on the part of Ari and Dane, uh, you know,

1858
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 10: Ari's already representing the NFL, the NHL, they got UFC

1859
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 10: and WW these are not people who love boxing and

1860
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 10: have a passion for buying.

1861
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 8: I get it.

1862
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 10: I'm an adult. It's about business. At the end, they

1863
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 10: Stitch ran in the back, Stitch came all morning combat.

1864
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 10: Hell yeah, you've.

1865
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: Never been a friend of mine. Stitch, I appreciate you,

1866
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: thank you.

1867
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 10: So it's I I look at it as this is

1868
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 10: just my opinion, This is really just Ari sending Dana

1869
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 10: out to tie up a loose end.

1870
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,839
Speaker 8: Is how does this tact? The Mimi boxing stuff?

1871
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 10: Every now and then managed to lure one of our

1872
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 10: guys or our ex guys and give them a record

1873
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 10: payday that we never had to give them and.

1874
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 8: Wind up producing these random astronomical gates and pay per

1875
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 8: view numbers.

1876
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 10: This is them more and that should be I think

1877
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 10: it shouldn't that be if we are to consider combat sports,

1878
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 10: which is this this term that came in the lexicon

1879
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 10: of the new millennium. If then this this is an

1880
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 10: attempted monopoly of not just mixed martial arts and boxing,

1881
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 10: but combat sports. And then when you bring in the

1882
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 10: WWE combat Sports and entertainment, Yeah, it's it's for the fans. Yeah, yeah,

1883
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 10: they're they're like, well what do I can't why why

1884
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 10: does this matter to me? I'm sick of because it

1885
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 10: has been like pulling teeth a lot of the fighters,

1886
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 10: the American champions, they have become divas. It's we spend

1887
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 10: more time talking about who's the A side we all know,

1888
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 10: and it's tired and it's it's over with. But UFC

1889
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 10: or t k O is doing this at a time

1890
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 10: where they're not firing on all cylinders. They're struggling to

1891
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 10: match their top dogs with their top dogs as well.

1892
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 10: Their pay per view numbers are down, they can't stay

1893
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 10: out of lawsuits, so I don't know much.

1894
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,719
Speaker 2: Ticket price is ridiculously so it's like that's what's coming

1895
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 2: to boxing. So here's the point here. To me, this

1896
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 2: isn't about.

1897
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 5: Not liking or not trusting anyone from a Dana White

1898
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 5: to TKO to Turkey Alachic and all that.

1899
01:27:58,479 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: This is about.

1900
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 5: They have an extremely unfair advantage in mixed martial arts

1901
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 5: that they absolutely use to crush, keep out the competition,

1902
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 5: control their own fighters under draconian contracts that are constantly

1903
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 5: getting updated to have even more control, especially after in

1904
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 5: Ganu crawled through.

1905
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 2: The shop ship pipe to get out of there.

1906
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 5: And now they not only want to bring that to

1907
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 5: boxing and use their political connections to change all the rules,

1908
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 5: they want to be the only game in town and

1909
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 5: have those same advantages that's going to shut everyone else out.

1910
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 2: And that's really the evil brilliance of this bill. They

1911
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: got muhammadad leaves widow Lani to sign.

1912
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 5: Off on it, because what does it say publicly, it

1913
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 5: says we're gonna have better medicals, We're gonna have better this,

1914
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 5: We're gonna have you know, better, guaranteed to pay on

1915
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 5: the lowest end to try to sell you to the

1916
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 5: fact that what they're really gonna do is be able

1917
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 5: to build up those walls and slowly kill the rest

1918
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 5: of boxing from the club show level all the way

1919
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 5: through the rival promoters that still exist today. And if

1920
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 5: you want all your food to taste like the cruise

1921
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 5: ship buffet every single day, and you love what's going

1922
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 5: on in UFC and WW right now, and from my

1923
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 5: looking at the fans, they don't right now and in

1924
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 5: a lot of big ways. And anyone that watches the

1925
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 5: show certainly knows the issues we have with how much

1926
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 5: moneys UFC is making compared to the effort they've been

1927
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 5: putting in lately.

1928
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 2: This is them walking right in and changing boxing. Will

1929
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 2: it be for the better? Will you be entertained?

1930
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I.

1931
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 5: Don't know long term, but this isn't like they're just

1932
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:32,719
Speaker 5: adding themselves to the party.

1933
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 2: This is them taking completely over and kicking everyone else out.

1934
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,600
Speaker 5: And I really don't know how people don't see this

1935
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 5: right now, or maybe they just don't care. Because boxing

1936
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 5: is that red light district sport, as Bird Sugar said,

1937
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 5: and because yes it's completely disorganized in a shit show

1938
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 5: almost all the time.

1939
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: That's fair. But just because we have somebody who's.

1940
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 5: Armed to take it over doesn't mean they're necessarily the

1941
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:58,799
Speaker 5: right person or doing it for the right reasons.

1942
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Speaker 2: That's where I STI.

1943
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 5: Let's see this tweet from Representative Sharise Davis, the Democrat

1944
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 5: and former MMA fighter, who says, as a former profighter,

1945
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 5: I know the risks athletes take every time they step

1946
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 5: into the ring, So I'm teaming up across the aisle

1947
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 5: to make sure pro boxers get the fair treatment and

1948
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 5: safety protections they deserve. Sean from your interpretation here when

1949
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 5: I mentioned that the club show level people could be

1950
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 5: completely pushed out, and by the way that people that

1951
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 5: don't know the UFC's done that in minor league MMA to.

1952
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 2: A large degree too. Only they bring them into the

1953
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,799
Speaker 2: UFC fight pass, pay them enough to keep them alive,

1954
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 2: but create a system where there's no separation between manager

1955
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 2: and promoter, which is what the ALIAC does, by the way,

1956
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 2: and you have to go through their system on their terms,

1957
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 2: at their pay scale. To ever make it.

1958
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 5: That's exactly what they're trying to do right now in boxing.

1959
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 5: I forgot what I was trying to tee up here ultimately, Sean,

1960
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 5: because I'm baffled by this but really overwhelming.

1961
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Speaker 8: It's a tapestry.

1962
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's arrogant. So I don't think it's just as

1963
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: easy to say, well, boxing's broken right now. You do

1964
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 2: have to be careful who you're given the keys to.

1965
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 10: Ultimately, Yeah, and people I think have overrated what Turkey's

1966
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:09,679
Speaker 10: done in the short term. I think Usik and Fury

1967
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 10: weren't as great a fights as Fury and Wilder, for example.

1968
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 10: I think if you can go back to twenty twenty one,

1969
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 10: you had a six month span where Ramirez and Taylor

1970
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 10: fought for undisputed, Canelo and Plant fought for undisputed, Fury

1971
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 10: and Wilder concluded a historic trilogy for the lineal title,

1972
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 10: Crawford and Porter fought, and I think Charlo and Castano

1973
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 10: fought for undisputed that around that same time they did

1974
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 10: in May of that year. Nobody was saying, oh my god,

1975
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 10: we're getting the fights we finally wanted and look better

1976
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 10: be a BIVL and Fury Usic for example, or we're

1977
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:46,719
Speaker 10: both excellent fights with the highest stakes possible. I don't

1978
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:50,759
Speaker 10: think either one was a Trinidad Vargas esque, you know, classic,

1979
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 10: So I even think the that's been a little overstated.

1980
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 10: And you could even look at Turkey's public investment fund

1981
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 10: with Saudi could be weaponized by TKO to do what

1982
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 10: you're talking about, to drive out all the other promoters

1983
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 10: like they did with live golf. Eventually, you privately owned

1984
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 10: companies cannot compete with a government fund of a country,

1985
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 10: and that's what you're gonna so once you could see

1986
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 10: a scenario where once the privately owned companies, i mean

1987
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 10: top rank, they made a lot of mistakes to this

1988
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 10: isn't all Turkey's fault.

1989
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 8: Same thing with PBC.

1990
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 10: They may be they're having their last show and Dan

1991
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 10: Rafael had a great tweet saying this could this could

1992
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 10: be the last show. This is the last show on

1993
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 10: American after the show concludes, this will be the first

1994
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 10: time since the forties American boxing isn't on a major

1995
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 10: American network. So but you could you could see that

1996
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:45,480
Speaker 10: as weaponizing Turkey's public investment fund from Saudi Saudi Arabia

1997
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 10: to drive out competition and then once they're driven out

1998
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 10: and the fighters don't have that that freedom of movement

1999
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 10: to to pit promoters against each other in bidding wars,

2000
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 10: and they're the only game left in town after turkeys

2001
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 10: driven everybody out.

2002
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 8: Now the fighters got a real problem on their hands.

2003
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 10: And when you call boxing the red light district, there's

2004
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 10: a beauty to that that's kind of part of the

2005
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 10: point of boxing. And it's gotten way, it's gone way

2006
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 10: too off the rails the last two decades. But there's

2007
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 10: a phrase people still say in boxing, which is, hey,

2008
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 10: when boxing gets it right, it's the best sport in

2009
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 10: the world. You still love it, even more than the

2010
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 10: super Bowl. And part of why that is is because

2011
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 10: boxing is not a sanitized, corporate, three letter conglomerate. It's

2012
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:34,799
Speaker 10: not UFC, it's not NBA, NHL, NFL, even in the UFC,

2013
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:38,639
Speaker 10: which is like boxing always been more uncut, less politically

2014
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,560
Speaker 10: correct than the other sports. But even that's changing. Dana

2015
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 10: has phased out real media. From what I've heard, he

2016
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 10: puts useful idiots that he calls influencers now to get

2017
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 10: them in there. So even that's getting more corporate and

2018
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 10: sanitized and gimmicky, and boxing as fucked up as it is.

2019
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 8: And I excuse the language on.

2020
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 10: The podcast, but it's real that the Wild West and

2021
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 10: late and and like there's that there's even a beauty

2022
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 10: in boxing when fighters get robbed, because that sometimes is

2023
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:12,639
Speaker 10: a microcosm of life, that you could do everything right,

2024
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 10: You could do everything right, you deserve it, and guess what,

2025
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 10: you didn't get it anyways. And that's just another way

2026
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 10: boxing is a So I think that's something. And so

2027
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 10: what I suspect could happen if they succeed in their

2028
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 10: plans is you will get a more consistent baseline product

2029
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 10: in boxing. You will get again a consistent baseline product

2030
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 10: with those those nights that come together that make people say, wow,

2031
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 10: this is when it does it right. Boxing is still

2032
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 10: the most special sport in the world. I'm not sure

2033
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 10: that Dana and then have that touch. You have to

2034
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 10: be a boxing guy to have that touch. Even the

2035
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 10: zone which is put on big fights. The reason why

2036
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 10: it hasn't captured the critical acclaim of an HBO or showtime.

2037
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 10: There's there's a little something to it. You can't just

2038
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 10: go about it the way you do NFL, NBA, NHL. Yes,

2039
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 10: boxing has needed more of the structure that those three

2040
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 10: letter conglomerates have. But part of why boxing is boxing

2041
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 10: is the reasons it's not like those other groups as well.

2042
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 5: I think there there is a big charm to that.

2043
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 5: There is a part where a love hate what. I

2044
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 5: prefer a more organized front, yes, but this isn't an

2045
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,440
Speaker 5: organized front. It's a it's a proposed dictatorship and monopoly.

2046
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,600
Speaker 5: And what I was trying to spit out before, and

2047
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 5: I couldn't find the words in that moment, was we're

2048
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 5: seeing them really minimize in and take the teeth out

2049
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 5: of the regional MMA scene. That's exactly what they're trying

2050
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,919
Speaker 5: to do with this. With this, you know, raised standards

2051
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 5: in healthcare, they want to make the minimums so expensive

2052
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 5: that the smaller promotions cannot survive at that level. In fact,

2053
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 5: this whole UBO thing or whatever they're calling this this

2054
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 5: new idea in writing, they're trying to say that you

2055
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 5: basically need your own UFC performance institute if you want

2056
01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 5: to be a boxing promoter that can put on this

2057
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 5: type of sting. And while that sounds good on the surface

2058
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 5: of oh yeah, more protections for the fighters, it's aggressively

2059
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 5: pushing everyone out just is how they're trying to frame

2060
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 5: what they're really trying to do. Let's be honest about

2061
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 5: what they're really trying to do with this UBO thing.

2062
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 5: They're really trying to circumvent every aspect of what the

2063
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 5: ALI Act is really supposed to protect. Most importantly, this idea.

2064
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 5: Even though I hate the four sanctioning bodies, I hate

2065
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 5: their rules, I hate their lies, I.

2066
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,600
Speaker 2: Hate them at least even though we're going to.

2067
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 5: See a foreign fighter fight for a title that we've

2068
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 5: never heard of, only because that guy's promoter paid, you know,

2069
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:37,480
Speaker 5: one of the sanctioning bodies. Even though there's that bullshit,

2070
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 5: they want to eliminate that. Why so they can make

2071
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 5: their own belts, they can control their own rankings. And

2072
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 5: if you fall on a line with Dana our Turkey,

2073
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 5: well look we can strip you with a title too.

2074
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 5: If that's the control you want a promoter to have,

2075
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 5: and no separation of church and state in boxing, then

2076
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 5: get ready because it feels like it's coming.

2077
01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, and you know it's unfortunate because it would. There's

2078
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 10: there's a karmac resolution to this for the fighters who

2079
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 10: have priced themselves out of fights and they've screened bloody

2080
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 10: murder if a promoter tries to pay them anything that

2081
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 10: they're actually worth as opposed to searching for the overpaying fights.

2082
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 10: And to your point about the club shows, dude, they're

2083
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 10: gonna be on the hook for a twenty five thousand

2084
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 10: dollars minimum to provide health insurance to the fighters.

2085
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 8: And you know, the.

2086
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 10: Real play economically as a fighter is to have the

2087
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 10: freedom to generate so much revenue for yourself that you

2088
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 10: don't need anybody's free health care. You can afford your own.

2089
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 10: So again that it's the irony, is hilarious that Dana

2090
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 10: is trying to offer up free healthcare to keep a socialist,

2091
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 10: potential socialist.

2092
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 8: Kind of pay scale.

2093
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 10: It's amazing, is yeah, the opposite opposite of what he

2094
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 10: claims to be standing for.

2095
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 3: What do you know?

2096
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 2: Check out a couple more tweets here. Here's Eric mcgrack

2097
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 2: in bringing up a very good point about the Association

2098
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 2: of Boxing Commissions led by Mike Mizzooli. The fun fact

2099
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:01,799
Speaker 2: is that the ABC never can the Athlete's Voice Committee,

2100
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 2: which is part of the ABC about this ali Boxing

2101
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 2: American Revival Act. They are telling the world that the

2102
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:11,680
Speaker 2: ABC board is in and quote unanimous support, yet the

2103
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 2: athletes were not consulted. Oh, that's very convenient. And then

2104
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 2: we also have another guy who's on top of all this,

2105
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 2: John S. Nash, bringing out a very.

2106
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,600
Speaker 5: Important question, saying the twisted logic from various actors in

2107
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 5: combat sports is that the ALI Act is a relic

2108
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 5: of the past and doesn't apply to today's environment. And

2109
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 5: I'm gonna insert that, Yeah, there's holes in it for sure.

2110
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 5: When Nash goes on to say, besides, nobody enforces it anyway,

2111
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 5: is sort of what you hear. If that's the case,

2112
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 5: then why why a push to change the protections?

2113
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 2: It's it's it's obvious, you can see right through it.

2114
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,719
Speaker 10: And why was Al Hayman in court twice from Golden

2115
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 10: Boy and Top Rank for the same stuff? And fast

2116
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 10: forward to now Golden Boy and Top Rank can help

2117
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 10: accelerate this this monopoly played by Turkey and TKO really

2118
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 10: so yeah, And there was gosh, Brian, there's so much

2119
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 10: to get at that. There was another point I wanted

2120
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 10: to make and I apologize.

2121
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 2: No worries. Let me let me ask you this.

2122
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 5: Okay, as we look at boxing moving forward, it's weird

2123
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 5: because the powers that be, even though Turkey and Dana

2124
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 5: telegraph this aggressively with that press conference March fifth to

2125
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 5: announce the union and really announce that, like hey, other promoters,

2126
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 5: we're not going to be using you in about you know,

2127
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 5: twelve to eighteen months anymore. And Turkey even saying that

2128
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 5: Dana and I will crush the competition. We've seen us

2129
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 5: still seen that competition line up to to suck on

2130
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 5: the teep there of Turkey, maybe for financial survival in

2131
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 5: this climate in which American boxing is dying and you

2132
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 5: can't get it on the networks. But it really pisses

2133
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 5: me off that a big part of this, uh this

2134
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,680
Speaker 5: this a New Ali Act amendment in paper, was to

2135
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 5: try to fix American boxing. Yet it's obviously Turkey that's

2136
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 5: systematically broken American boxing by putting so many big fights

2137
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 5: with young prominent Americans in Saudi Arabia, Canelo fighting at

2138
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 5: seven thirty am in front of three thousand people. We've

2139
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 5: talked about it ad nauseum right there. So it's another

2140
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 5: one of those ironies in that regard. But when you

2141
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 5: look at boxing moving forward and whatever time left, the

2142
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 5: powers that be have to either compete against this or

2143
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 5: or what you gotta. I guess look at the evil

2144
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 5: brilliance of Turkey, meaning that these promoters, even after knowing

2145
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 5: that they're on the outs, are still lining up to

2146
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 5: get their share. And all Turkey's doing is taking each

2147
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 5: of these young fighters, paying them their ring magazine ambassadorship,

2148
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 5: and really building that relationship that's obviously going to lead to,

2149
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 5: you know, two fights from now when the contract is up,

2150
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 5: do you want to go back to the old promoter

2151
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 5: who doesn't even have an American TV deal, or do

2152
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 5: you want to stay here with us now. I think

2153
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 5: Turkey's missed the point on a lot of this, most

2154
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Speaker 5: importantly putting all fights onto his own where you're only

2155
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 5: watching if you're a boxing fan. But as you look

2156
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 5: ahead to the next six months to a year, do

2157
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 5: you see the powers that be remains and boxing surviving,

2158
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 5: attempting to aggressively survive because it feels like right now

2159
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 5: they're like, we'll take the free money as long as

2160
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 5: we can get it.

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01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 10: Well, I think that guys like Eddie I'm gonna I

2162
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 10: do remember a point I wanted to make, which was

2163
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 10: before we get to guys like Eddie Hearn, I think

2164
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 10: trying to reverse course a little bit and say, well, okay,

2165
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 10: I see the riding on the wall. Now you let

2166
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:24,639
Speaker 10: the mass slip that you want to eventually do away

2167
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 10: with all of us. Let me see if I could

2168
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,600
Speaker 10: play you for a money mark, and in the meantime,

2169
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 10: see what my next plan of action is, knowing what

2170
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 10: the long term goals you've revealed are now, but to

2171
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 10: boil it down to the fighters at first being overpaid

2172
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,639
Speaker 10: as a trojan horse and then the door potentially getting

2173
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 10: slammed shut behind them.

2174
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 8: Look at to.

2175
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 10: Turkey in New York when he recently hosted that sparring

2176
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 10: session where fighters were getting knocked out. Those were fighters

2177
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 10: that was That was a microcosm of what's the calm.

2178
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,679
Speaker 10: Those were fighters seeing the money that's being handed out,

2179
01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 10: rushing to New York with their sparring year literally fighting,

2180
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 10: not even sparings, fighting and not realizing you're not scrapping

2181
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 10: each other at full speed to try to get a

2182
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 10: turkey bag, one of these fame turkey bags that's been

2183
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 10: going around for over twelve months now. No no, no, no,

2184
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:17,520
Speaker 10: you're fighting for free to claw your way onto an undercard.

2185
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,560
Speaker 10: Will you to fill a roster spot for an eventual

2186
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 10: TKO league that'll only guarantee you one hundred and fifty

2187
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 10: dollars around.

2188
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 8: That is the microcosm right there.

2189
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 10: Young fighters thinking they're on their way to a road

2190
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 10: paved with gold, they're gonna get the turkey bag, when

2191
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 10: you're really just being used as another live body to

2192
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 10: eventually fill up the roster they want to fill up.

2193
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 8: Now.

2194
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 10: As for what the other promoters plan plans are, you

2195
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 10: know PBC right now having to send David Benavidez overseas

2196
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 10: for the Yard Fight is a loss. They've tried to

2197
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 10: hold strong as much as they can, but they have

2198
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 10: a very thin roster and an aging roster, and then

2199
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 10: their biggest star, Gavonte Davis, can't stay out of trouble.

2200
01:42:57,520 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 10: But they have an ace in the hole with their

2201
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 10: AM deal, and there's a lot of speculation about that.

2202
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 8: Is it just a distribution deal?

2203
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 10: How much is Amazon really in it in terms of

2204
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 10: years and money committed? But as long as they do

2205
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 10: have a network, they have an ace in the hole

2206
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 10: that no other promoter in the United States has right now,

2207
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 10: and that is a premium network in Amazon. So we'll

2208
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 10: see what they can do. I think they're gonna have

2209
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 10: to entice the Golden Boys. They're gonna have to hope

2210
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 10: the Golden Boys and the top Ranks and even that

2211
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 10: Eddie Hearn say, well, we'd rather work with you guys

2212
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:32,679
Speaker 10: on Amazon and continue to kiss the ring with Turkey,

2213
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 10: which will eventually slit our throat long term, even if

2214
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 10: it's making us money. Now, Burn I think is the

2215
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 10: one who sees the writing on the wall the most

2216
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 10: and is beginning to plan accordingly. He already changed his logo,

2217
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 10: which was funny, but he sees the writing on the wall,

2218
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 10: and then top Rank. They're in a tough spot when

2219
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 10: the genius behind the business is turning ninety four soon and.

2220
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,719
Speaker 15: Bob Aaron they're about to be without a network.

2221
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 10: Todd the buff got them caught up in a mess

2222
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 10: with in the hand in order to secure Fury, so

2223
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 10: they But I do think what's disconcerting though, is this

2224
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 10: fight right here Zaias. This could have been Zayas and

2225
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 10: Fundora in a two belt fight. But even with death

2226
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,679
Speaker 10: looming them in the face, with even with the British

2227
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 10: in the Saudis, I mean, you know, like using the

2228
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 10: British are coming, but in this case the Saudis and

2229
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:26,719
Speaker 10: Tko are coming. Still not working together to do a fight,

2230
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 10: which is like, okay, then you almost ultimately deserve what's

2231
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:34,480
Speaker 10: coming then. But I uh, maybe maybe they can consolidate

2232
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 10: and do some fights on Amazon since TVC is the

2233
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 10: only one that has a deal, but they need each

2234
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 10: other because PVC has a deal. But they have the

2235
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 10: thinnest roster out of all these companies. All those other

2236
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 10: rosters have deeper All those other companies have deeper rosters,

2237
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 10: but they don't have anywhere to show their fights outside

2238
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 10: of the Zone, which lost over a billion dollars in

2239
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 10: its first year or so under Leonard Bobotnik, And they

2240
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 10: stop telling us how much money they're hemorrhaging since so

2241
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 10: do with that what you will?

2242
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, We'll see.

2243
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:05,959
Speaker 5: I could talk about this for you with hours, including

2244
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 5: how you know tko Zufa Boxing gets from Plan A

2245
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 5: to Plan B and actually takes over the sport without

2246
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:13,719
Speaker 5: buying a promotional roster.

2247
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 2: But maybe that's the calm.

2248
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 5: But I would like to get your insight on some

2249
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:20,440
Speaker 5: more positive news as we continue to look ahead and behind,

2250
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 5: because last weekend we had really good fights from Alexander

2251
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 5: Hussik to Manny Pakio's return to a breakthrough victory from

2252
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 5: Sebastian Fundora. So I want to talk what could be

2253
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 5: next for all three Pakiao at forty six fighting Mario

2254
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 5: Barrios to that majority draw. And then suddenly you had

2255
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 5: Sean Gibbons of MP Promotion saying, hey, moving forward, we

2256
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 5: want Roly or we want Tank And suddenly you're opening

2257
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 5: your eyes.

2258
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 2: Now Rowley would say I'd love to get a Hall

2259
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 2: of Famer on my resume. Here's Many Pakio's response.

2260
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 15: To that coup.

2261
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 3: He said that he would like to have.

2262
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 5: Me as Ryan Garcia tweeting his hope or interest in

2263
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 5: a Many Pacio fight, saying it's something that you dream of.

2264
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 5: I'm always up for the challenge. I'd be lying if

2265
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 5: I said I'm not interested. If Many wants to throw down,

2266
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:15,719
Speaker 5: let's do it. And I'd be remiss if I hadn't

2267
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 5: mentioned the elephant in the room and the big money

2268
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,679
Speaker 5: potential of even forty eight year old Floyd Mayweather.

2269
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:23,600
Speaker 2: I want to hear your thoughts on the quality of

2270
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 2: the performance from pakiow and whether you believe he could

2271
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,600
Speaker 2: go on and sell a big pay per view with

2272
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:31,640
Speaker 2: a guy like Rowley and even win it. Where are

2273
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 2: you on this Pacquiao comeback in light of Barrios not

2274
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 2: living up to expectations.

2275
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 10: I think the fight itself wasn't really particularly the good fight.

2276
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 10: It was very average, ordinary fight, and the drama in

2277
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 10: the fight was Wow. Many Pacow forty six might really

2278
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 10: do this, and he's winning up until Barrios closed strong

2279
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 10: and managed to hold onto his title in those last

2280
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 10: three rounds. But I think, you know, it was a

2281
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,599
Speaker 10: great What was so surprising about it was the fashion

2282
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 10: in which Paco fought was able to be effective. George Foreman,

2283
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 10: you know, long gone from his peak athleticism days, reverse

2284
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 10: of the cross arm defense and with stans rounds of

2285
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,800
Speaker 10: punishment just to set up one big moment Bernard Hopkins

2286
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 10: defensive wizardry, you know, not not relying on any athleticism.

2287
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 10: Packow at forty six basically still tried to fight the

2288
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 10: same I mean, at a different level of pace, which

2289
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 10: he's been fighting at a slower pace for the last decade,

2290
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 10: even more so in this fight. But for him to

2291
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 10: be bouncing around and using those big calves and his

2292
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 10: athleticism and speed and in and out at forty six,

2293
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 10: I did not expect, and that's what was impressive about

2294
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 10: it is I've never seen a fighter and maintain their

2295
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 10: athleticism that deep into their forties.

2296
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 8: That's what was impressive. You know.

2297
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 10: I do think in the fight itself, pat no worse

2298
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,599
Speaker 10: than the draw. I don't see I didn't see seven

2299
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 10: rounds for Brios. I could see seven rounds for pack Out,

2300
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 10: no problem. And I think Sean Gibbons is talking about

2301
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,680
Speaker 10: the Roly fight because again.

2302
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:02,559
Speaker 8: The first fight with Barrios, it wasn't that great. It

2303
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 8: wasn't that good. And the would yeah, we don't need

2304
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 8: to read that.

2305
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:09,719
Speaker 10: And and you know what's funny is if Rowley actually

2306
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 10: knocks Manny Pacao out and retires him. Remember Rowley wished

2307
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:17,720
Speaker 10: us all a happy Easter. Rowley is a born again Christian. Yeah,

2308
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,640
Speaker 10: it would, it'd be pack Ow. It may seem like

2309
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:25,639
Speaker 10: the most blasphemous handing of the torch retirement because PA's

2310
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 10: knocking pack is making it painfully clear to us. He's

2311
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:31,680
Speaker 10: like He's like Ali, He's like Roy Jones, He's like

2312
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 10: Bernard Hopkins. I'm cut from Eric Morales, Marera, I'm cut

2313
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 10: from the oldest school of Fox.

2314
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 8: You have to knock me out to get me out.

2315
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 8: Of boxing.

2316
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 10: One of you young fighters got to send me home.

2317
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 10: I'm not going home until one of you.

2318
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 8: Send me home.

2319
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 10: So it may seem blasphemous of Lely Romero is the

2320
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 10: man to do that. So one of the greatest fighters

2321
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 10: that ever lived in many packyaw. But Rowley's actually a

2322
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 10: born again Christian, which is what pays about more than

2323
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 10: belts and anything else, right, Brian, So maybe he's the

2324
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 10: fitting man. And what's so great about what's interesting about

2325
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 10: the fight not great about the fight, because what's sad

2326
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 10: about the fight for PBC is with Tanks not being

2327
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 10: able to stay out of trouble. Right now, Benavitez has

2328
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:16,679
Speaker 10: to fight in riad season, You're left to a forty

2329
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,559
Speaker 10: six year old well passes Crime, pack Out and Roly

2330
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 10: Romero as your best options potentially, right, But what makes

2331
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 10: the fight interesting is Roly is actually a good counter

2332
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 10: puncher with some timing, Like that's what he did to Ryan.

2333
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 10: He countered his left hook with his own left hook,

2334
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:35,840
Speaker 10: catch and shoot, and Rollie can knock pack Oo out

2335
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 10: with a counter punch. But Paco still has so much

2336
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,679
Speaker 10: better feat than Rolie that he could step around Roly

2337
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 10: make him look silly. Rolie's easy to get off balance.

2338
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 10: There's a chance, man he puts Roly on his ass.

2339
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 2: Dude.

2340
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 8: It's a good fight. It's like a right It is.

2341
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 5: Like it could be sad that Paccio's at this level,

2342
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 5: but he's also forty six and he's at this level,

2343
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,879
Speaker 5: and Roie's never been hotter. This is kind of perfect.

2344
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 5: But there'd be no trash talk. I always read the

2345
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 5: Bible from front to back three times. He says there'd

2346
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 5: be no trash talk, you know.

2347
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 10: I think he'd give us a little something, but it'd

2348
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 10: be tongue in cheek. It'd be playful and respectful. But

2349
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 10: I think Rowley believes he knocks Packyo out. I think

2350
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:16,640
Speaker 10: he fully believes that. And then Manny will look at

2351
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,759
Speaker 10: this guy like, I'll beat this guy at any age.

2352
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 3: You know.

2353
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:21,679
Speaker 8: I just gotta be weary of his punching power.

2354
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 10: But the Givante fight, if you think about it, can't

2355
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 10: be taken off the table. I don't like that fight,

2356
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 10: but it can't be taken off the table because the

2357
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 10: Roach fight isn't signed. Roach is starting to talk about, Look,

2358
01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 10: this guy's bullshitting. I'm gonna have to move elsewhere. Potentially,

2359
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 10: and for PBC, which needs all the views that to

2360
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 10: get right now, back out and Tank is the fight

2361
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:47,719
Speaker 10: that brings the most viewership. And I don't think Floyd

2362
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 10: Mayweather is entertaining a many Packyu rematch. I think the

2363
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:53,639
Speaker 10: only way Floyd Mayweather would ever entertain a many packy

2364
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 10: rematches if it's some unforeseen money issues that we haven't

2365
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 10: heard about yet, right, and it had.

2366
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 8: To be drastic because is packed.

2367
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 10: The rivalry with Pacow is an exception to the money

2368
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 10: madeweather mentality a little bit.

2369
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 8: I think that's.

2370
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 10: One that means something to him in a boxing sense,

2371
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 10: that he's not trying to give up risking another payday

2372
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 10: for That's what I think. So I actually think Rolli

2373
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 10: and Paco might be the most likely option.

2374
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 8: And that's an interesting fight.

2375
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 5: We talked to I look, I'm in. I've talked myself

2376
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 5: into Pakio versus Rollie. Tank would be big business, but

2377
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 5: it's a weird fight. I don't even know if people

2378
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 5: would be overly excited about it. I thought they should

2379
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 5: have done two years ago. I'd still I'd still call

2380
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 5: that fight. By the way, I believe that I wanted

2381
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:39,760
Speaker 5: to get into the guy in the co main event

2382
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 5: of last week's PBC pay per view, and that Sebastian

2383
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 5: Fundora because he's really starting to stand tall pun intended

2384
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 5: as one of, if not the face of the one

2385
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:50,719
Speaker 5: fifty four division. He no longer has two title belts.

2386
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 5: He gave up one Xander's eyes. He's gonna fight for

2387
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 5: that tomorrow night where you are. But Fondora not stopping

2388
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:59,679
Speaker 5: tim Zoo getting a second victory, but looking for half

2389
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 5: the fight at least like a destroyer who keeps his

2390
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 5: his height in reach and uses it as an advantage

2391
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 5: and sits down on his power shots. There is a

2392
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 5: plethora a fun fight you can make for him at

2393
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 5: one point fifty four, from Murderzaliev to Virgil Ortiz to

2394
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 5: so many more. Which direction do you believe Fundora and

2395
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 5: PBC should go next? Because I gotta take my head

2396
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 5: off to Freddy Fundora, the father and trainer him Sebastian

2397
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 5: have worked hard on refining what was a fun attraction brawler.

2398
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 2: Now he might be the best in the division, but

2399
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 2: respective glut of course.

2400
01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, he was the guy who'd win wars of attrition

2401
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 10: with his upper cut, being a six to five.

2402
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 8: Guy and all you want to do is wing his

2403
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 8: left upper cut on.

2404
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 10: The inside, and everybody agrees Fondora hasai approved right. And

2405
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 10: we're all saying he's using his height better, which means

2406
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 10: he's using his jab better. Brian, let the audience know

2407
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 10: what's the most important and best punch.

2408
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 3: In boxing, the jab.

2409
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:56,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, the jab.

2410
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 10: So if we're saying his jab substantially improved, that means

2411
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:03,879
Speaker 10: we're saying he's substantially improved.

2412
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 3: Period.

2413
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 10: And Fondora now has grown into a quality champion. And

2414
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:12,599
Speaker 10: I'm brainstorming this, Ran, I'm kicking this around. I think

2415
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 10: there's three tiers of champion in boxing. There's average champions,

2416
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 10: Mario Barrios, Ta Boris Cloud back in the day he

2417
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 10: called Bernard Hopkins. Then you got your quality champions, and

2418
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 10: then you got your pound for pound guys. I think

2419
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 10: Fondora has definitely grown into a quality champion. Now he's

2420
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 10: not just another guy with a belt. He's a quality champion.

2421
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 10: And he's still vulnerable. You still saw Tim Zoo catch

2422
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 10: him with shots, but with him using his hype Moore

2423
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 10: now and keeping you at the end of his jab

2424
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 10: and pelting you with it, it's harder to find him

2425
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 10: than it once was, and maybe he's He makes the

2426
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 10: weight comfortably, which is scary for the rest of the

2427
01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 10: division fighters. Virgil Ortiz is going straight to the straight

2428
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 10: to the upstairs to get off his feet after away in.

2429
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 10: So's back from even boots coming up from forty seven.

2430
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 8: I imagine to be that way.

2431
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,600
Speaker 10: Fondora will hang out two or three hours after a

2432
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:05,800
Speaker 10: weigh in because that's how easy he makes the weight,

2433
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:07,639
Speaker 10: and he's it looked to me in the Zoo fight.

2434
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:10,519
Speaker 10: He's starting to take the shots better, like his base

2435
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 10: is underneath him. He's growing into himself, even despite coming

2436
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 10: off that knockout from Mendoza, so he's harder to hit.

2437
01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 10: He's taking the punches a little better, he has a

2438
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 10: better sense of distance, his offensive repertoire off that jab

2439
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:25,679
Speaker 10: is getting more lethal, and he's tough as a two

2440
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:28,719
Speaker 10: dollars stake. The dude is a dog man like Freddie

2441
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 10: Fandora built him and Gabriella into two pit bulls. I

2442
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 10: still think, so you're asking where should he go. Virgil

2443
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 10: Ortiz is the interim champion. Fondora in Ortiz isn't a

2444
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 10: good fight, it's a great fight. It's a fight of

2445
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 10: the year. Potential candidate, can't miss type of fight. I

2446
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 10: still give the edge to Virgil Ortiz because you look

2447
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 10: at the shots. Zoo was catching him with bombs, absolute

2448
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 10: bombs in between the shots, and Ortiz is busier than Zoo.

2449
01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 10: He's a little bigger than Zoo. His feet are fast

2450
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 10: than two and his hands are faster than too, so

2451
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 10: he could build upon those bombs that Zoo was landing.

2452
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 10: But if he can't put Fondora down or knock him out,

2453
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 10: I don't know if anybody beats this guy over a

2454
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:15,360
Speaker 10: twelve round war of attrition, which is exactly what a

2455
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 10: fight with Virgil Lortiz would turn into at Forrtiz can't

2456
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 10: put his lights out.

2457
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 8: So do I favor Fondora over the field.

2458
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 10: Not necessarily, But this quality champion who was once looked

2459
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 10: upon as a freak show might just be your next

2460
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 10: undisputed super welterweight champion.

2461
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised.

2462
01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 5: It's wild because he already had those superpowers of insane

2463
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 5: stamina and sane toughness, that willingness to brawl, all that stuff.

2464
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 5: Now you add power, Now you add a jab boxing ability.

2465
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 2: Now you add where he's not.

2466
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:45,800
Speaker 5: Jumping into the deep end of the pool and brawling

2467
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 5: off the start. I wouldn't favor him against Virgil Arts

2468
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 5: or Boots, but I would against almost everybody else in

2469
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 5: this division. And by the way, you got some veterans

2470
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 5: like Keith Thurman and Jimo Charlo still with PBC still around.

2471
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 2: So we'll see where he goes moving forward.

2472
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 5: Alexander Usik getting the flowers finally that he really deserves

2473
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:07,760
Speaker 5: after that knockout of Daniel Duban in the fifth round

2474
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 5: last weekend, in which he walked.

2475
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 2: Him down on the road again in Wembley Stadium and

2476
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 2: took it to a guy who was arguably the most

2477
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 2: dangerous in the division at that moment.

2478
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 5: So you're hearing the top ten heavyweight of all time

2479
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 5: potential of people that are starting to rank him there,

2480
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 5: You're hearing a lot of stuff. We're also hearing for

2481
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 5: his next opponent. The WBO made Joseph Parker the mandatory

2482
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 5: in that fight. I'm in Joseph Parker deserves it, but

2483
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:36,840
Speaker 5: Turkey don't want it. Let's go to the tweet that

2484
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 5: Ring Magazine put out saying Riad season in Sela not

2485
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:45,520
Speaker 5: interested in making Usik versus Parker. We know Turkey wants

2486
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 5: Moses a talma who is gonna be great, But I

2487
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:50,720
Speaker 5: think he just graduated high school.

2488
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 2: What do you think is gonna be next?

2489
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 5: And don't say Jake Paul and the MMA Cage four

2490
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 5: the champion of the World of Pomper pound King Usik.

2491
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 8: I actually am I not Turkey about this one? Just

2492
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 8: to show the audience.

2493
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 10: I don't just immediately it's Turkey means I disagree with it.

2494
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 10: I get what Turkey's coming from. Look, Parker is the

2495
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 10: most deserving veteran I think clearly Parker in a geek kaball.

2496
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 10: If you're gonna pick one of the veteran guys who

2497
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 10: have bought their way to the front of the line,

2498
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 10: it's one of those two.

2499
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 8: Both very interesting fights.

2500
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 10: Kabyall is an interesting fight because he's the best body

2501
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 10: puncher in the heavyweight division and Usik doesn't like it

2502
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 10: to the body, so easy enough there. Parker is an

2503
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 10: interesting fight because he's not a huge super heavyweight like

2504
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 10: Anthony Joshua Tyson Fury, not a two fifty plus. Well

2505
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 10: now with these days, he is about that high, but

2506
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:44,040
Speaker 10: he's originally kind of like Usik. He's six' four and

2507
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 10: he can challenge usk in areas just most heavyweights. Cannot

2508
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 10: he could challenge him IN iq, boxing, ability foot, speed

2509
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 10: and speed. Positioning i've loved that fight Since lusik came

2510
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 10: to the. Division there's an old TWEET i could dig

2511
01:57:57,520 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 10: up from twenty, twenty twenty twenty, one Whenever usak came

2512
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 10: to anyway THAT i love that.

2513
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 8: Fight who's sick In?

2514
01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 10: Parker but we know that even Though parker is having

2515
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 10: this great late career, revival and even Though kabayel is

2516
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 10: the definition of a dark. HORSE i apologize about the.

2517
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 10: Audio mostama is the next. Supernova you know it's a

2518
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:20,960
Speaker 10: stretch to call it A Canelo mayweather type matchup Because

2519
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 10: Canelo beadolson, troump he was forty three and oh unified world.

2520
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 10: Champion itama has done. Nothing he's gonna knock Out danny

2521
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:30,240
Speaker 10: And white next. Month the speed difference is gonna be.

2522
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 10: Crazy BUT i understand Where turkey's coming. From itama as

2523
01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 10: an proven as he is the eye test is, impeccable

2524
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:39,600
Speaker 10: and he's the next supernova of the. Division so he

2525
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 10: wants to put the next supernova is, unproven is unready

2526
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 10: as he might be against the current supernova to, him

2527
01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 10: that's sexier than the most, deserving very good, veterans AND

2528
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 10: i actually understand where he's coming From, itama he'll probably

2529
01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 10: get cooled because experience.

2530
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 8: Matters at that. Level but eye test, WISE i understand

2531
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 8: why if you.

2532
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:01,840
Speaker 15: Want to see, IT i kind of want to see it.

2533
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 10: Too But parker is the more logical, choice and it

2534
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 10: is an interesting fight because he could challenge you sick

2535
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 10: in areas heavyweights other heavyweights can't compete in NO i

2536
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 10: appreciates great.

2537
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 2: Analysis it is heating up, There. Sean just about time

2538
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 2: at the end of the. SHOW i know you've got

2539
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 2: some press activities Coming xander Z ayez fighting for that

2540
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