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Speaker 1: pasted a couple of days of taken my eyes off
Speaker 1: of the text and forgotten the whole chunk of the
Speaker 1: first sentence about saying this season episode, yeah, this season,
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Speaker 1: Have to get national candied Orge, Big National candied Orge
Speaker 1: Peel having their way with us again?
Speaker 2: Who did that?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Is that like just big orange is way to be? Like,
Speaker 2: how can we take the refuse from our industry and
Speaker 2: then give it a second life?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like that, or like somebody who's really
Speaker 1: into candied orange fields and has a personality disorder and
Speaker 1: it's just like nobody gives me my propers when it
Speaker 1: comes to how good these damn things are.
Speaker 4: I don't yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: For whatever, any kind of citrus peeled type candy. I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is absolutely not for me. But anyway, if it's
Speaker 2: for you, then hey, get down, today's your day.
Speaker 1: Tricking me into thinking my garnish is edible for years,
Speaker 1: you ever had like one of those ones that's like
Speaker 1: candied like flash, you know, it's just like super hard,
Speaker 1: like slices of lemon or lime or orange. You try
Speaker 1: and chew it and it's might as well be chewing
Speaker 1: like a piece of wax fruit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I do it all the time. So my favorite past come.
Speaker 1: You guys ever seen this year has been heard about this.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien aka, Hey Chucky, You're the cane,
Speaker 1: You're the king. It's your new thing. Hey Chucky, Hey, Hey,
Speaker 1: hey hey Chucky. Oh Chucky, you're so lucky, you're the
Speaker 1: king to be. You take me by the heart, pledging
Speaker 1: to you on TV. Oh Chucky, you're so lucky. Sovereign
Speaker 1: of the lance getting coronated using tickets on demand that
Speaker 1: is courtesy on the discord.
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 1: He had a part after that that I say, like
Speaker 1: I just don't know the song well enough, and I
Speaker 1: didn't do the work to know what I was supposed
Speaker 1: to do after that, But okay, thank you to Rezaik.
Speaker 1: Great work in honor of our royal coronation coming up
Speaker 1: in a mere days.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
Speaker 1: co host, mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 4: Don't worry about me.
Speaker 2: It's Miles Gray, the Lord of Lancasham, the true king
Speaker 2: of the North Hollywood. Okay, great to be here. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for having me. Jack thinks so much
Speaker 2: for having You're welcome.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for you to thank me for having
Speaker 1: on our show.
Speaker 2: I know people been handing me notes. You're like, Jack
Speaker 2: would really like it, he.
Speaker 1: Would really appreciate it this time. Maybe I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: show a little fucking gratitude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, and I will do the Homage of the
Speaker 2: People later for you, Jack, where I will, I will
Speaker 2: swear fealty to you. Well podcast domain.
Speaker 1: Miles, We're thrilled to be joining our third third seat
Speaker 1: by someone who this was probably must must be excited
Speaker 1: about the what is it? The Fealty of the People, The.
Speaker 2: Homage of Peers homage of the People, Homage of the.
Speaker 1: Homage of the People. It's a film programmer, a curator,
Speaker 1: a podcast host, and an author of the upcoming book
Speaker 1: Unlikable Female Characters, the women pop culture wants you to hate.
Speaker 4: It's Anna Botska.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 4: I'm terrified, terrifyin guys. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for being here. And you are in London.
Speaker 4: I am indeed.
Speaker 1: How are you preparing for His Royal Highness's royal coronache.
Speaker 4: Well, I am preparing to avoid central London during that
Speaker 4: entire day. Okay, I'm prepared to be in hiding for
Speaker 4: that day, trying to make sure to avoid the monarchists
Speaker 4: on my way around town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it can be a little overwhelming. I get it
Speaker 1: to just like see God's one true big boy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: one true representative here on earth. I get it. You'd
Speaker 1: want to kind of hide, let it, let it be
Speaker 1: a slow kind of wash over you.
Speaker 4: But I know, you know what, I somehow and always
Speaker 4: end up in countries where there's royal families still pottering around.
Speaker 4: And I don't know how I've managed to do that
Speaker 4: in my lifetime. I grew up in Spain, I grew
Speaker 4: up in Spain where there's a royal family. Right, they
Speaker 4: don't really do much, but they're there. They provide some gossip.
Speaker 4: And then I moved to London. Obviously there's a big
Speaker 4: monarchy in the UK. So now I'm just kind of
Speaker 4: mildly entertained by them. But it's the pageantry, man, I
Speaker 4: kind of I was amused by it at first, and
Speaker 4: now I'm like, no, what appointments are being canceled? Stuff's
Speaker 4: not's happening. Yeah, we get a buying holiday, but I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm a freelancer. I'm still gonna have to work on Monday. Right,
Speaker 4: I'm not going in to salute the new king because, right,
Speaker 4: someone has to work. Well, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: You brought up Fana because Jack and I both have
Speaker 2: been there, you know, cultured people. Whereabouts did you grow up?
Speaker 4: Oh? So I grew up in Barcelona and I lived
Speaker 4: in Madrid before moving there. Where did you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I did, oh, whereabouts, like in the city, in the city.
Speaker 1: I was sixteen years old and don't remember much of
Speaker 1: it other than that the nineteen ninety six NBA Playoffs
Speaker 1: we were on at that time, and so I was
Speaker 1: watching that with the Spanish commentary and that that was
Speaker 1: a blast. I do remember it was a beautiful city,
Speaker 1: had an amazing time, but I don't remember anything about
Speaker 1: the geography whatsoever.
Speaker 4: That means, it's a good time. It's still the best
Speaker 4: city in the world. Man, if you go again, just yeah.
Speaker 2: In the summer, I was in Barcelona for a little
Speaker 2: bit fantastic Salona.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love Catalonia. I love I love the energy of
Speaker 2: the Catalonian people out there, and it just feels like
Speaker 2: La to me because it's like a beach town everyone.
Speaker 2: I'm more in the sense of like the energy, like
Speaker 2: California type, like people are a little more laid back.
Speaker 2: But then when I went to Madrid, felt a little
Speaker 2: more like you're in the city now. I was saying
Speaker 2: in Malasania.
Speaker 4: When I was in Madrid, I love Malasania.
Speaker 2: That's so weird.
Speaker 4: I always felt the opposite. I've never been to La
Speaker 4: though I might go to this fault, but I've always
Speaker 4: felt I don't know, Barcelona was a bit more uptight,
Speaker 4: whether it's Madrid was much more chills. Maybe that's so
Speaker 4: because I went to Uni there.
Speaker 2: Ah, that might be my perspective, just as a you know,
Speaker 2: like tourist who was on holiday and just drinking a ton.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this is so laid back.
Speaker 4: Next time you're in Madrid, or if you ever in
Speaker 4: Madrid or Barcelona, let me know. I've got all the
Speaker 4: best places map down. Okay, perfect, you you will not
Speaker 4: be sober for the entire time you're there. Oh perfect.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that also ahead of its time, and that
Speaker 1: I started seeing like Nazis for the first time there
Speaker 1: like five years before they started appearing in the United States.
Speaker 1: There were like swastikas everywhere, at least around the places
Speaker 1: that I.
Speaker 4: Was where are you hanging out? Who are you hanging
Speaker 4: out with?
Speaker 1: Exact Madrid, there's just like a public park where all
Speaker 1: the kids were smoking hash and hanging out like on
Speaker 1: Friday night, and there was like a gang of skinheads
Speaker 1: there and I was like, man, that's that's real. And
Speaker 1: then sure enough sign of things to come for the
Speaker 1: rest of the.
Speaker 4: World right here in our own backyard. Hey who fair?
Speaker 1: Yes they have all right, And we're going to get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the
Speaker 1: things that we're talking about today.
Speaker 4: We're going to talk about.
Speaker 1: We found out a little bit more maybe on why
Speaker 1: Tucker got fired. According to Fox, they have a they
Speaker 1: dropped a new piece of evidence into the picture. Say
Speaker 1: it's an interesting piece of evidence. Doesn't change what I
Speaker 1: think about Tucker Carson, but it does confirm some suspicions
Speaker 1: I think for me.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about McDonald's child labor violations, being that that
Speaker 1: being like mild a real thing that had.
Speaker 2: Ten year o'donald's McDonald's And we're going to Fryer at
Speaker 2: two am, so we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about baby names, Miles. You just went through.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of the process of going through the
Speaker 1: naming of a baby, and apparently the game has changed
Speaker 1: since came out. Yeah, so we'll talk about that. We
Speaker 1: might even talk about why Utah people are having trouble
Speaker 1: jacking off today, all of that plenty more. But first
Speaker 1: and uh and by the way, to so, did I
Speaker 1: pronounce your name right? Is it Bogatska, It's buckets Kaya,
Speaker 1: it's book at Skaya.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're about pronunciations to your last episode of Final Girls.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I've for fucking some reason I heard it
Speaker 1: like I listened back to it five times and maybe
Speaker 1: you just maybe it.
Speaker 2: Was like a weird.
Speaker 4: Busky Okay, yeah, that's don't don't worry about it. It's
Speaker 4: been pronounced in so many different ways.
Speaker 1: It's so buckets kaya. I was gonna be like everybody,
Speaker 1: just so you know, it's spelled differently than it's pronounced.
Speaker 1: It's it's spelled buggets kaya. So go Google find the
Speaker 1: book anyways.
Speaker 2: Leave it all in silent why, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I can't trust the podcast.
Speaker 1: An We do like to ask our guests, what is
Speaker 1: something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 4: I mean, I considered this for so long. You have
Speaker 4: no idea how deep I went into my own search
Speaker 4: history for this show. Okay, but honestly, the last like
Speaker 4: ten to fifteen searches have been different iterations of slutty
Speaker 4: little knees, So there is I was, yeah, but actually
Speaker 4: it wasn't actually even the pictures. It was trying to
Speaker 4: find who had coined the term slutty little knees, going
Speaker 4: deep into Twitter, being like, what depraved mind, depraved and
Speaker 4: brilliant mind coined the term sully little knies And.
Speaker 1: How poetic soul.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's my people.
Speaker 1: Oh you did you found out because we were talking
Speaker 1: about this with the There was somebody who had a
Speaker 1: full body orgasm during a La Philharmonic performance and we
Speaker 1: were like, man like, whoever tweeted? Okay, I just heard
Speaker 1: someone have a full body orgasm. That was the headline
Speaker 1: for everyone. It was just like the anonymous authorship of
Speaker 1: the Internet. Like one person came up with that, and
Speaker 1: every fucking major media outlet went with that wording. But
Speaker 1: slutty little news is is perfection.
Speaker 4: We're doing fiction.
Speaker 1: Who's the author?
Speaker 4: So this is a oh god. I went through like
Speaker 4: the Esquire videos, the TikTok rabbit hole, but I think
Speaker 4: it was this person on Twitter at Joel's guitar. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and their description is full time slut for Joel Miller,
Speaker 4: which I also think is a great a great profession. Yes,
Speaker 4: that's the origin point. It's one thing about Petri Prescal
Speaker 4: is that he will pop his slutty little knee out.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: So this is in reference to Peter Pascal's Metropolitan Gallivant outfit,
Speaker 1: wherein he's wearing shorts with his long red coat, slight
Speaker 1: little knees hyked up socks looking good. Wait, who's the
Speaker 1: who said? Can you repeat the quote guitar guitar.
Speaker 2: But character in Last of.
Speaker 1: Us Character and Last of Us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's also it's about the Last of Us
Speaker 4: and the Mandalorian. He has this go to pose where
Speaker 4: he pops his knee out and expensively into the into
Speaker 4: the distance.
Speaker 2: Love that love that love that knee. Love to see more,
Speaker 2: you know, more like knee positive content out there. Then.
Speaker 4: Also, I just love when the Internet collectively decides to
Speaker 4: thirst over someone and it or something very specific. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: we really we're really hot for like someone's ear lobe,
Speaker 4: and then we're going to create obsessive content just about that.
Speaker 4: That's where that's in the Internet for good and I
Speaker 4: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like someone comment on someone's meaty, meaty ear lobes
Speaker 1: in a recent episode of Succession and oh yeah, like
Speaker 1: Barnacle meat Yeah, like Barnacle. That was a brilliant little
Speaker 1: piece of poetry, Barnacle.
Speaker 4: That's Tom to shift.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom is on a tear. Tom is on a
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler like tear. Right now in this season what
Speaker 1: what is something? And you think is overrated?
Speaker 4: Memoirs honestly, not to get to d but like everyone
Speaker 4: needs to. The entire publishing industry needs to stop giving
Speaker 4: book deal to random people who have a big Instagram
Speaker 4: following or have been in like a reality TV show.
Speaker 4: It's like, not everybody has a life story that needs
Speaker 4: a book. Not everybody wants to write a memoir. Can
Speaker 4: we stop wasting paper and wasting money and wasting space
Speaker 4: for these memoirs to exist? I just I hate them.
Speaker 4: I hate them. I especially when, like, you've had a
Speaker 4: very nice life, you don't need to write about it.
Speaker 4: You don't learn anything, nothing's happened to you. Why do
Speaker 4: you need to share even if you don't want to.
Speaker 4: If someone just throws a bunch of money at you
Speaker 4: and be like, oh, just with your entire uninteresting life
Speaker 4: in book form, just say no, It's fine, you don't
Speaker 4: need to.
Speaker 2: Right, But how else will people know that I was
Speaker 2: struggling before I was on Love Island? You know? I
Speaker 2: want people to know the depths that I went until
Speaker 2: I rise to the top.
Speaker 4: You know what, why not do like a really good
Speaker 4: Twitter thread, like a really profound Instagram story. It's not
Speaker 4: a book, it's not a book. Get a substack exactly
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 2: We don't need to fucking print. We don't need to
Speaker 2: have the printed word like that to talk about the
Speaker 2: just mundane aspects of your life. I agree, Like I
Speaker 2: there are times when you see books on his shelf
Speaker 2: and like, why the fuck would anyone care about this
Speaker 2: person's memoir? But clearly, like to your point, when there
Speaker 2: are like because I'm sure it's like how publishing would
Speaker 2: work the same way, how like executives work in hard
Speaker 2: Like that person has a hall like a following that'll
Speaker 2: translate to sales. Spoiler alert, it usually doesn't, and then
Speaker 2: they're like, oh the fuck did we fuck that up?
Speaker 2: Can't be because I'm completely unimaginative in the way I'm
Speaker 2: developing things or what projects I green light.
Speaker 4: Can't be that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's also taking taking up the work of
Speaker 1: a talented writer, Like I mean, the memoirs are not
Speaker 1: written by the memoists. The character recover frequently. You know,
Speaker 1: the person who got famous for Love Island is not
Speaker 1: necessarily an inherently talented writer, and so therefore they have
Speaker 1: to hire a talented writer and be like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: more on your sci fi dystopia later, right now, we
Speaker 1: need you to write a biography of this twenty.
Speaker 2: I don't know who Octavia Butler is, and that sounds cool,
Speaker 2: but I think this person you should write about their life. Okay, yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: What we're talking about right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I needs less influence from Octavia Butler and more
Speaker 1: influence from I was trying to come up with a
Speaker 1: vapid celebrity named Octavia Octavia. I don't know.
Speaker 4: All Octaber's are good, pretty good. Yeah, the Octavius and
Speaker 4: the Public Eye are good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is there a bad Octavia?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyways, what is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: Okay, this might be niche, But do you do you
Speaker 4: guys ever get British television over there?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Over here in yeah, in the towns. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: we get certain things for sure.
Speaker 4: So I watch a lot of films for work, right
Speaker 4: to give you some context, Like big chunk of my
Speaker 4: job is just to like watch films before they come out,
Speaker 4: like for festivals or for reviewing whatever. So I'm like
Speaker 4: constantly watching things during the day for work, dream job.
Speaker 4: But that just means that by the end of the day,
Speaker 4: I'm like I can't watch anything else, Like my eyeballs
Speaker 4: are gonna melt out of my head. And when I
Speaker 4: get to watch something for fun, like for no reason whatsoever,
Speaker 4: it's not new, I don't have to do anything about it.
Speaker 4: I could just like put it on while I'm just
Speaker 4: chilling or cooking or something and just enjoy it for
Speaker 4: the sake of it. I get fully obsessed with it.
Speaker 4: And the last thing, and I'm very late to this.
Speaker 4: It's a British crime show called Happy Valley. I genuinely
Speaker 4: need this to be succession levels well known.
Speaker 2: That was the one where like the like the murder
Speaker 2: of the cops daughter gets out of prison. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it was on Netflix. I think it was that
Speaker 2: they distributed on Netflix here in the US.
Speaker 4: It's a BBC show. It finished this year. Came back
Speaker 4: to it after a decade and they finished it. And
Speaker 4: it's just like cranky, self righteous older women police officer
Speaker 4: in North in the North of England, and it's fucking phenomenal,
Speaker 4: just the writing and the performance. It's so violent. It's
Speaker 4: like so grimy. And I love horse and I'm not
Speaker 4: like scared all violence on screen, but oh my god,
Speaker 4: it is filthy and I loved it and it's like
Speaker 4: gone down this massive Robert Home. Who is everyone in
Speaker 4: the show? Why have I never heard of this? Why
Speaker 4: have I never seen this? I want ten shows with
Speaker 4: this woman. I'm obsessed with her. I just want everyone
Speaker 4: to hear and watch The Valley.
Speaker 2: I've only watched the first series and I know there's
Speaker 2: like three now. So now I'm like, because I really
Speaker 2: loved uh Sarah Lncashers And yes, I was like, it's
Speaker 2: because my mom is like a huge like BBC Mystery,
Speaker 2: like Prime Suspect Addicts. Since I was a kid, so
Speaker 2: like I was, that was always ambiently on in my house.
Speaker 2: So she'll be like, you have to see a Happy Valley.
Speaker 2: So I heeded her advice when it first came out.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm looking forward to the other two.
Speaker 4: It's amazing. It's like eighteen perfect episodes. Yeah, have you
Speaker 4: seen a Jack or No?
Speaker 1: I have not.
Speaker 4: No, it's really well done.
Speaker 1: There was like a show from America I think that
Speaker 1: came out around that time though, was happy Something and
Speaker 1: it was like a bet wasn't like a weed comedy
Speaker 1: or something. Oh that's what I had it confused with.
Speaker 1: Is there that she doesn't like open a just Nah.
Speaker 4: No, that's Weeds. Isn't that weird?
Speaker 1: No, No, not Weeds. It's a show that was like
Speaker 1: a prestige comedy in the US, and I forget. I
Speaker 1: think I just got my wires crossed in my brain
Speaker 1: at some point.
Speaker 2: And yeah, no, she's like, it's about this this police
Speaker 2: officer who, like the first series starts off with her backstory,
Speaker 2: is like her daughter died and she suspects that this
Speaker 2: guy who's getting out of prison had something to do
Speaker 2: with her daughter's death. And then like she gets obsessed
Speaker 2: with this guy and it opens up. It's just it's
Speaker 2: it's it's pretty good. It's pretty good.
Speaker 4: They're just like a kidnapping and they're like small town
Speaker 4: politics and there's class issues and everybody just hates each
Speaker 4: other and nobody speaks with a Yorkshire accent, which is lovely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to go hospital now.
Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, you're going, you're going hospital.
Speaker 1: Oh that's just British in general, right, don't they say? Go?
Speaker 4: They do?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But the math, Yeah, you're doing maths, not just one.
Speaker 1: How are you gonna know the difference between doing one
Speaker 1: math and multiple.
Speaker 2: Because we're stupid, Because it's mathematics. It's not like we
Speaker 2: do mathematic you know out here.
Speaker 4: So look, you.
Speaker 1: And Anna, you have a you know, while we're talking
Speaker 1: about memoirs, you have a book coming out that's a
Speaker 1: not a memoir.
Speaker 4: About it not a memoir, it's it's a it's essentially
Speaker 4: a book of essays about unlikable female characters. So it's
Speaker 4: pop culture history. It's pop culture criticism, but without you know,
Speaker 4: your usual kind of film critic mindness. I wrote it
Speaker 4: kind of for people who might be interested in film
Speaker 4: but perhaps haven't ever read like a film history book,
Speaker 4: and it basically looks at what makes a female character unlikable.
Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, the bitch and the slut
Speaker 4: and the shrew and the crazy women and all these
Speaker 4: like really negative connotations and tropes that sometimes are implicit
Speaker 4: in characters and why we still love watching them and
Speaker 4: why they make up some of the most memorable and
Speaker 4: popular female characters ever on in movie and TV history.
Speaker 4: So I kind of look at all or as much
Speaker 4: as possible, or film history and TV history and a
Speaker 4: little bit of music, like from the nineteen thirties in
Speaker 4: Hollywood to literally the day I had to give in
Speaker 4: the final draft of the book. So I was writing
Speaker 4: right up up to the wire of stuff that was
Speaker 4: ary TV.
Speaker 2: Who's the most current Who's the most current character that
Speaker 2: is included in the.
Speaker 4: Book colleb Shivroy from Succession? So I wrote it. Sadly
Speaker 4: I could not include the fourth season because I finished
Speaker 4: way before it started, way before it was even finished,
Speaker 4: I think before they finished shooting it. But all up
Speaker 4: into the third season it's there, okay, Yeah, And their
Speaker 4: shows like The Flight Attendant and Debt to Me and
Speaker 4: An Unreal Fleabag, and then also a lot of older
Speaker 4: movies like Fatal Attraction or Gong Girl, you know, and
Speaker 4: like even movies from the nineteen thirties like I'm No
Speaker 4: Angel with May West, and like stuff from the nineties
Speaker 4: like The Last Seduction. So it really kind of jumps
Speaker 4: between stuff that we're saying now on Netflix and other
Speaker 4: streamers to stuff that you might not be aware of,
Speaker 4: I don't know about, and all the recognizable ones in between,
Speaker 4: like from the nineties.
Speaker 1: In the two thousands, did the revelation that ship had
Speaker 1: thick mediaor loves like Barnacle Meat blow your theory out
Speaker 1: of the water about like why people didn't like the character.
Speaker 4: Do you think it literally did? I'm so embarrassed. Now
Speaker 4: I have to go in and do like a whole
Speaker 4: new chapter just about your lobes. You know, it's a
Speaker 4: whole thing. With my publishers.
Speaker 1: You get the low edition, that's more money, that's more
Speaker 1: copies printed.
Speaker 4: That book cover is just that your lob.
Speaker 1: The book so is your I'm assuming there's like both
Speaker 1: of this, but is like part of it they're being
Speaker 1: written unlikable by like male writers, and part of it
Speaker 1: just like misogynistic culture that is like deeming them unlikable
Speaker 1: or kind of a sirl of that.
Speaker 4: Kind of a swirl. Part of it is also just
Speaker 4: trying to understand what unlikable even means. So I keep
Speaker 4: hearing this word. It keeps popping up and think pieces
Speaker 4: and media in like production meetings and you know, in
Speaker 4: the industry in general. Yeah, oh, you just gotta make
Speaker 4: her more likable because otherwise why would we watch her?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, but what does that mean? Do
Speaker 4: you just why don't you like her? Like? What is
Speaker 4: she doing that's so wrong? I don't fucking know. I
Speaker 4: wrote the book, and I'm like, there is no reason.
Speaker 4: It's just our weird projections on women that were then
Speaker 4: putting on two fictional characters. But it is a little
Speaker 4: bit of you know, just plain old misogyny from us,
Speaker 4: from all of us as we watch these films and decide,
Speaker 4: you know what, she's a bitch, I'm gonna hate her,
Speaker 4: and I'm going to hate the actress that plays her too,
Speaker 4: because she plays her too well, so it means that
Speaker 4: she must be a bitch in real life too. And
Speaker 4: that combined with like, you know, the writers and the
Speaker 4: way that they create those characters to be villains. But
Speaker 4: then one thing that I really love is and this
Speaker 4: is how I you know, why I love these characters
Speaker 4: is that even though the films or the shows present
Speaker 4: them to us as sort of villains or as characters
Speaker 4: we should hate because of whatever reason, we still love them. Right,
Speaker 4: We're still gravitate towards them, we still want to watch them,
Speaker 4: we still want to spend time with them. And that
Speaker 4: is the nugget of like really interesting kind of love
Speaker 4: for these unlikable characters that is at the heart of
Speaker 4: the book as well.
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, because I feel like everyone's like, I hate Lena,
Speaker 2: heates ass fucking Circe Lanister get the fuck up. Like
Speaker 2: I remember like that. There was a while when I
Speaker 2: feel like people around were like also had an unreasonable
Speaker 2: like they're just like, oh I get sick when I
Speaker 2: look at her or whatever, But I also love it.
Speaker 2: I love that shit, And you're like, wow, the duality
Speaker 2: here is really something.
Speaker 4: Well remember the hatred, the you know, Anna gun god
Speaker 4: on breaking back like people.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna I was going to bring that up,
Speaker 1: and I was like, but that would just end up
Speaker 1: being the whole episode it's talking about, like how just
Speaker 1: over the top. That was like a weird thing where
Speaker 1: the entire nation just like flipped a switch.
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, that revealed a lot where like they're
Speaker 2: like they're like, she's getting in the way of his crimes. Yes,
Speaker 2: what that's a dislikable Okay.
Speaker 1: Oh now she takes the money.
Speaker 4: Wow Skyler, Wow, yeah, she's the problem.
Speaker 1: Wall cook. Yeah, literally let him cook.
Speaker 4: Let Wall cook that ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well it sounds like an amazing book.
Speaker 1: Instead of continuing this conversation, we will direct listeners to
Speaker 1: go by the book and continue with your pros. The
Speaker 1: book is called Unlikable Female Characters and it's available for
Speaker 1: pre order. It seems like everywhere was a.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be out everywhere for pre order on paperbag
Speaker 4: and ebook, and it's out on the ninth of May.
Speaker 4: Ninth of May. Go do it.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about the.
Speaker 5: News, and we're back.
Speaker 1: And when Tucker Carlson got fired, a lot of people
Speaker 1: had questions because the stuff that they seem to be
Speaker 1: pointing out about him was evident on the air every
Speaker 1: single night of his show. It seemed to be the
Speaker 1: main thesis of his show was that he was a racist, misogynist.
Speaker 1: And so we've just been waiting for more information to
Speaker 1: come out. Some information has come out, and then last
Speaker 1: night or two nights ago, big bomb drop. The New
Speaker 1: York Times published a story with a very like, very
Speaker 1: interesting phrase in a text from Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like a piece where, oh, and are
Speaker 2: you familiar with Tucker Carlson? Are our violent ethno nationalist
Speaker 2: commentator on Fox News?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: Good, because yeah, the New York Times. I just want
Speaker 2: to it's it. I'm gonna just start off by saying
Speaker 2: it sounds like the New York Times is helping Fox out,
Speaker 2: and we'll get to why a little bit later, but
Speaker 2: they're they open up this this report by saying, quote
Speaker 2: a text message sent by Tucker Carlson that's set off
Speaker 2: a panic at the highest levels of Fox on the
Speaker 2: eve of its billion dollar defamation trial, showed its most
Speaker 2: popular host sharing his private, inflammatory views about violence and race.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, this is fucking private views. What are
Speaker 2: you Okay? What could those be? Well, let's read the
Speaker 2: text in questions, shall we? This is from Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2: What are you gonna say?
Speaker 1: I just listening to the just reading the text, Like
Speaker 1: It's why. I've never seen somebody who texts exactly as
Speaker 1: they speak on television. It's so weird.
Speaker 4: It's like how Parts signs a yearbook.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he texts.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy cool. Anyways, Okay, this is the this
Speaker 1: is Simpsons.
Speaker 2: He writes theook, he writes the way he talks. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So this is a this is a text he's sent
Speaker 2: on January seventh, twenty twenty one. Okay, the night after
Speaker 2: January sixth, he tweeted or he texted quote. A couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, I was watching video of people fighting
Speaker 2: on the street in Washington. A group of Trump guys
Speaker 2: surrounded an Antifa kid and started pounding the living shit
Speaker 2: out of him. It was three against one.
Speaker 4: At least.
Speaker 2: Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable. Obviously, it's not
Speaker 2: how white men fight. WHOA would have been in that one.
Speaker 2: Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for the mob against
Speaker 2: that man, hoping they'd hit him harder, kill him. I
Speaker 2: really wanted them to hurt the kid. I could taste it.
Speaker 2: Then something deep in my brain and alarm went off.
Speaker 2: This isn't good for me. I'm becoming something I don't
Speaker 2: want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being.
Speaker 2: Much as I despise what he says and does, much
Speaker 2: as I'm sure i'd hate him personally if I knew him,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered
Speaker 2: by it. I should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves
Speaker 2: this kid and would be crushed if he was killed.
Speaker 2: If I don't care about those things, if I reduce
Speaker 2: people to their politics, how am I better than he is?
Speaker 1: And then like somebody presumably like thumbs up that or something.
Speaker 2: Like who texts like that? The three exclamation points like
Speaker 2: the part that part right there. I'm sorry, Tucker, how
Speaker 2: do white men fight? Like what are you saying?
Speaker 4: Here?
Speaker 2: Are we talking about like old school pugilism, like hey,
Speaker 2: put your dukes up and like you're doing this shit
Speaker 2: and just like fucking you're doing that kind of thing,
Speaker 2: or you mean the other way white men fight, like
Speaker 2: giving disease blankets to indigenous people or like you know,
Speaker 2: scriminally dropping bombs on defenseless you know, groups of civilians.
Speaker 2: Which which way are you talking about, Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 1: There's so this is like, like you said, this is
Speaker 1: unsurprising quantitatively is what he said on his show every night.
Speaker 1: But that like the texture of that phrase is like
Speaker 1: so reminiscent of like Leonardo DiCaprio's character in Django Unchained,
Speaker 1: like so thoroughly like Antebellum South, Like it just just
Speaker 1: feels like, for whatever reason, that sentence was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: there is a basement before below the basement where every
Speaker 1: like the just open and depraved white supremacy that like
Speaker 1: I kind of suspected was always going on with these
Speaker 1: people is actually happening. Like the fact that he just
Speaker 1: casually put through that out there, there's just like something
Speaker 1: there that's like a little brief window into how he
Speaker 1: actually talks.
Speaker 2: And thinks right, like to another white supremacist like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 4: It's not how white men fight. It's dishonorable.
Speaker 2: It's like how I would be like talking to a
Speaker 2: Laker fantom like that's not how we played basket ball, right,
Speaker 2: and the LA Lakers are like, you fucking right.
Speaker 4: But this is like about the.
Speaker 2: I guess, the purity of of of white pugilism. I guess,
Speaker 2: But the logic here, I'm so Apparently this text was
Speaker 2: beyond the pale for the exacts at Fox, and they
Speaker 2: figured that with the dominion trial about to happen, that
Speaker 2: this was just going to make things worse because they
Speaker 2: didn't want this to come out a lot like during
Speaker 2: his testimony, et cetera. That's what that's that's what they're saying.
Speaker 2: But they knew about these texts because it was part
Speaker 2: of the discovery process, like when you know you're fucking
Speaker 2: like in the middle of a lawsuit, So they they
Speaker 2: presumably knew about this already. And also he has a
Speaker 2: show where he constantly talks about the virtues of Western
Speaker 2: European whiteness and shit all the fucking time. So it
Speaker 2: just feels like they're like the New York Times kind
Speaker 2: of helping Fox do damage control over the dominion lawsuit
Speaker 2: while also making the board seem like soul having humans
Speaker 2: who were like, you know what we're actually not with
Speaker 2: white grievance politics here?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Interesting, and that's what I'm that's it's like sort of
Speaker 2: confounding or is it a way to spin like the
Speaker 2: largest defamation settlement ever by it being like it wasn't
Speaker 2: because of all the election lies we settled, it was
Speaker 2: because Tucker's racism would have been a blight on our
Speaker 2: network if it came out in such a public way
Speaker 2: in a trial. I'm still still struggling to find like
Speaker 2: how they want us to believe? What is like what
Speaker 2: the reasoning is here? Because it sounds like a reason
Speaker 2: but I'm not, like, I'm just like, is that really
Speaker 2: what it is? Are you patting yourselves on the back
Speaker 2: or being like and that was just a bridge too
Speaker 2: far for us at Fox.
Speaker 1: There was also the story where did you I think
Speaker 1: we covered it on this on this show like one
Speaker 1: of the trending episodes that Rupert Murdoch was like engaged
Speaker 1: to be married again? To this like I forget, like
Speaker 1: she was like a real estate person or she was
Speaker 1: like my angel yeah, evangelists, And then that got called
Speaker 1: off and there are rumors behind the scene that she
Speaker 1: was she like believed Tucker Carlson was like the second
Speaker 1: coming of Christ, like had that he had been over
Speaker 1: to their house, had dinner with like Ruber Murdoch, his fiance,
Speaker 1: and the next morning the engagement was called off. And
Speaker 1: then like a week later, Tucker Carlson was fired.
Speaker 2: You're laughing too hard at his jokes.
Speaker 1: Dude, I could see there being some weird personal grievance shit,
Speaker 1: Like I'm guessing it's like there there are so many
Speaker 1: good reasons that he was fired, but also like the
Speaker 1: real reason is probably something stupid.
Speaker 2: And probably feeling like it's succession esque because the pr
Speaker 2: spin on it feels like a group full of people
Speaker 2: who have lost their tether to reality. You're like, yeah, yeah, man, tell.
Speaker 4: That to the public. They'll they'll believe that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that the realism was too much, And I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: was this written by Kendall Roy, Like it has that
Speaker 2: energy in it.
Speaker 1: I'd be worried that my view of reality is being
Speaker 1: too heavily influenced by Succession, except for the fact that
Speaker 1: Ruber Murdock apparently is worried that his life is affecting
Speaker 1: Succession too much, because he filed lawsuits being like, you
Speaker 1: can't use details from my life and the writing of Succession,
Speaker 1: So it seems like there's some bleed there.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Well I don't know. I mean, what's your
Speaker 2: how do you feel? I know, like, looking upon this
Speaker 2: medium mess that we have over here, Well.
Speaker 4: As I told you guys before we hit record, I
Speaker 4: love mess. Yeah, I'm enjoying.
Speaker 1: All the way.
Speaker 2: Do you think what do you think makes more sense
Speaker 2: that it was that they're like this is like spin
Speaker 2: to try and humanize the board for being like and
Speaker 2: you see they actually cut ties with him. Or is
Speaker 2: this is this like some like you know Connor Roy,
Speaker 2: like this is like Roy Family, Roy Star Waco kind
Speaker 2: of shit?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 4: I think it makes us look better that we just
Speaker 4: do not understand the moves that are being made. I
Speaker 4: think if we, if it made sense to us, it
Speaker 4: would mean that we're in the same wave length as
Speaker 4: these people, and that is a questionable place to be
Speaker 4: morally ethically in every single way.
Speaker 1: So Tucker Carlson to look for answers about why he
Speaker 1: got fired. I'm just like glad he got fired, right
Speaker 1: a good life philosophy that I would have if I
Speaker 1: was a more mentally healthy, less spiteful person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well there's that. I mean, I also,
Speaker 2: can I really do like the idea that Rupert Murdoch
Speaker 2: was just so incensed Beyonce like like giving him attention
Speaker 2: that he just did like a like Roman firing Joy
Speaker 2: the studio exact kind of thing, was like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or you could be fired. I don't know how
Speaker 4: about that. But also you know that he broke up
Speaker 4: with every single one of his wife's via email.
Speaker 1: The best way to do it if you ask me.
Speaker 4: Day notice saying I'm sorry, we have the hard ways.
Speaker 4: I'm afraid this is not working out for either of
Speaker 4: us right now.
Speaker 1: And also you always ended on a good because it
Speaker 1: ends with best Jack, so they know that I have
Speaker 1: the best intentions.
Speaker 2: And also, yeah, click my link tree underneath kind of
Speaker 2: see what a come if you're into it. I know
Speaker 2: things kind of went south. That's why I always have
Speaker 2: been broken up with at Chipotle every time for some reason.
Speaker 1: I hate beggars, can't be choosers.
Speaker 4: Man, they can't. I know.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. McDonald's, Hey, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: What we're not loving is McDonald's child labor law violations.
Speaker 1: The Department of Labor has stepped in and McDonald's in
Speaker 1: bitter trouble for employing two ten year old children who
Speaker 1: worked as late as two am, one of which operated
Speaker 1: the deep friar, which is a prohibited task for workers
Speaker 1: under sixteen years old. Claim that the kids that McDonald's
Speaker 1: claimed that the kids or so McDonald's is like franchised,
Speaker 1: so they just like give people the ability to run
Speaker 1: McDonald's with apparently absolutely zero oversight because these people claimed
Speaker 1: that the kids were merely visiting a parent who works
Speaker 1: as a night manager. And the Department of Labels like labors, like,
Speaker 1: you've employed twenty four miners under the age of sixteen
Speaker 1: to work more than legally permitted hours. So get the
Speaker 1: fuck out of here with this bring your daughter to
Speaker 1: work shit like this is those just.
Speaker 2: They're all pattern I'm like, God, they're all my children,
Speaker 2: thank you. It's how I look at them. And they
Speaker 2: wanted to come to, you know, work with me. That's
Speaker 2: all it's it's a very man. It's just such a
Speaker 2: dark time too, because there's so many Republicans too, like
Speaker 2: trying to legislate this kind of stuff, like yeah, man,
Speaker 2: kids should be able to fucking work. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: like fourteen year olds, they need to be able to
Speaker 2: work a lot longer. Like I know they were in Iowa,
Speaker 2: like they were really had their eye on a bill
Speaker 2: like that. I'm not sure if it actually went through it.
Speaker 2: It may have, but there's just so many levels of
Speaker 2: fucking tragedy to it. To it's like it because on
Speaker 2: one level, you know, these kids they're not working because
Speaker 2: they're like I want to work at McDonald's as a
Speaker 2: fucking thirteen year old. They're probably in a terrible situation
Speaker 2: where they're only financial recourse is to try and work
Speaker 2: at McDonald's at such a young age, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And then there's always somebody who's willing to
Speaker 2: be like, hey, well you know, we got a friar
Speaker 2: shift late at night once you get homework done, if
Speaker 2: you want to come by for that, and just like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wo fuck, just the worst I mean, yeah, So
Speaker 1: Arkansas is scrapping age verification requirements for workers younger than
Speaker 1: sixteen years old. Missouri Republicans are eyeing a similar move.
Speaker 1: Wisconsin Republican led legislature introduced a bill that would allow
Speaker 1: kids as young as fourteen to serve alcohol in bars
Speaker 1: and restaurants, but to seated customers only, which.
Speaker 2: Wait, oh yeah, like as opposed to like someone at
Speaker 2: a like at the bar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't like be behind the bar like shaking
Speaker 1: up cocktails while like a.
Speaker 2: Oh so you want to be able to have the
Speaker 2: fourteen year old bring your my tie to the table like, okay,
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 1: Man, But as a teenage alcoholic, I would have done
Speaker 1: succession level Macavellian maneuvering to get a job where I
Speaker 1: was serving alcohol at the age of like sixteen, like
Speaker 1: five years away from being to drink, be to being
Speaker 1: able to drink. But I get to serve it responsibly Jesus.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. This is just another example
Speaker 1: of this thing like American capitalism as currently constituted is
Speaker 1: a system that overtly and almost exclusively rewards predation, Like
Speaker 1: it is just predators praying on people who are have
Speaker 1: less power than them, and we're going to continue to
Speaker 1: see this level, just like New and new lows new
Speaker 1: and like lower lows when.
Speaker 4: As the basement beyond the basement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, the basement under the basement is what we're
Speaker 1: seeing here. But I just think that as long as
Speaker 1: the myth is still there, that like there is some
Speaker 1: meritocratic value to who becomes rich in this country. Like
Speaker 1: we're kind of fucked because like we need to get
Speaker 1: people's minds back to a place where, you know, there
Speaker 1: is an understanding that companies with power will use that
Speaker 1: power to exploit you unless you have some you know,
Speaker 1: collective power to to push back with.
Speaker 2: And it's funny too, because like to your point and
Speaker 2: about memoirs, it's like the memoir ification of successful wealthy
Speaker 2: people has also completely fucked up people's concept of like
Speaker 2: how to become successful, Like from yeah, oh I don't
Speaker 2: know that guy lifted themselves up by the bootstrap.
Speaker 4: Why can't I.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, the game's rigged against you already, Yeah,
Speaker 2: or even just.
Speaker 4: To live a life before you consider like writing about
Speaker 4: it or thinking that you have something to teach other people,
Speaker 4: Like what are you teaching us exactly? Like are you
Speaker 4: just selling? Are you just selling the idea of constant
Speaker 4: hustle like to you, guys, this point is, are you
Speaker 4: just selling idea of work yourself to death in this
Speaker 4: particular way? Because that is what I did, and that
Speaker 4: is what I will continue doing for the rest of
Speaker 4: my life, and maybe maybe you will be just like me.
Speaker 4: But that path, whatever that path might be, you know,
Speaker 4: be it love island or anything else, it changes, and
Speaker 4: it's never available for everyone. It's barely available to the
Speaker 4: people who actually get it and forget those deals in
Speaker 4: the first place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's barely available to anyone. And let other than
Speaker 1: the people who already know that it's available to them,
Speaker 1: and they're not going to tell you that it's available
Speaker 1: to Yeah.
Speaker 2: Here, here a listener. Here's the exercise you can find
Speaker 2: out if this path is available to you. Check your
Speaker 2: pockets right now, okay, go with through your pockets. Are
Speaker 2: there fucking emeralds in there? Do you have any loose
Speaker 2: emeralds in your pockets?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Oh, well you're not like Elon then, So.
Speaker 1: Here's how you have a chance at being a billionaire.
Speaker 1: Do your parents have a private wealth manager that like
Speaker 1: the whose full time job it is to grow their wealth. No,
Speaker 1: they're probably in the States. Yeah, anyways. I mean there's
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of structural things, and like Congress hasn't
Speaker 1: passed a law that's just advantageous to like billionaires and
Speaker 1: uh an entire generation. The Supreme Court keeps pushing things
Speaker 1: in the direction of corporations, but there is I feel
Speaker 1: like also just the media has fully bought into the
Speaker 1: corporate I like, the idea that what corporations tell us
Speaker 1: is the truth and that like that's the way to
Speaker 1: run a society is just like that that Clintonian idea
Speaker 1: of like taking in the neoliberal ideas of like free
Speaker 1: market and running the entire civilization like that, And it's
Speaker 1: just not working. And I think it has gotten into
Speaker 1: people's bloodstream where now nobody thinks of selling out as
Speaker 1: being a thing. Is that used to be a thing
Speaker 1: that you would look down on. Now it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get the bag, which is totally understandable, but it
Speaker 1: just feels like in this very specific form of late
Speaker 1: stage hypercapitalism, it's very dangerous that like we we don't
Speaker 1: have the cultural kind.
Speaker 2: Of well a defense well the like the options are
Speaker 2: so minimal right for like upward mobility that like it's
Speaker 2: like in this country, like we've just been mainlining this
Speaker 2: kind of fucked up financial propaganda where it's sort of like,
Speaker 2: hey man, I know it feels like your back's against
Speaker 2: the wall, but you might luck out like one of
Speaker 2: these exalted people, and that's gonna keep you alive for
Speaker 2: a little bit longer while we get a little more
Speaker 2: labor out of you, like and because of that, we're
Speaker 2: caught in this fucking rat wheel. And like you know,
Speaker 2: like again, that wasn't until the pandemic happened where people
Speaker 2: were like, well, the what the fuck is what the
Speaker 2: fuck is this? And they were really good the checks
Speaker 2: cut the checks off, cut them off because people are
Speaker 2: getting fucking ideas now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a kind of a fucked up situation.
Speaker 2: But yeah, let us know, if you guys are seeing
Speaker 2: ten year olds at your local McDonald's fucking fries, please and.
Speaker 1: That's the answer. Just tip those ten year olds to
Speaker 1: tip them better.
Speaker 2: That's going to be a piece in the Atlantic soon, yeah,
Speaker 2: or the Wall Street Journal is going to be like,
Speaker 2: what we need to do is actually advocate for child tips.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, thank you. What heartwarming story of this
Speaker 1: child coming home from work at McDonald's at four in
Speaker 1: the morning and a wealthy person was driving by and
Speaker 1: decided to buy them a new pair of shoes, right
Speaker 1: because there's had holes in them. Heartwarming story. Absolutely, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break, we'll come back, we'll talk
Speaker 1: baby dames.
Speaker 5: And we're back.
Speaker 1: And uh, social media has completely fucked up how we
Speaker 1: named babies, it seems, I think so.
Speaker 2: I'm look. I've been on TikTok for the last year
Speaker 2: or so, just mouth a gape, watching it for hours
Speaker 2: at a time, and I've come across all kinds of content.
Speaker 2: And ever since the algorithm figured out I'm a parent,
Speaker 2: now I get weird parenting content. I'm seeing weird hacks
Speaker 2: about like how to know how your baby's asleep. You
Speaker 2: look at how clenched their fist is. If their fist
Speaker 2: is clenched, they are not sleeping or whatever. No, it's
Speaker 2: how full their stomach is. That's how you can tell
Speaker 2: how much to feed your baby. And people are like,
Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with it. That's how they sleep.
Speaker 2: And my doctor here, that's not true. Shut up, doctor,
Speaker 2: this is TikTok. You fucking hate her.
Speaker 1: But doctors have to spend half of their workday, just
Speaker 1: debunking shit they see on TikTok.
Speaker 2: Right, and like I see all kinds of stuff like that.
Speaker 2: And then then I started seeing this, like stuff about
Speaker 2: like esthetic names for babies, like oh, you want an
Speaker 2: aesthetic name for a baby?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: And it seems that like baby naming content is becoming
Speaker 2: more and more popular, and there's now like there there
Speaker 2: are influencers around baby naming, like people who're like, yo,
Speaker 2: they fucking come with the sickest names in the game.
Speaker 2: Right now, let me play like I'm gonna play a
Speaker 2: clip for you of like one of these things of
Speaker 2: like just how these videos are of like these are
Speaker 2: these are esthetic baby names?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: So you can like vibe out your child's energy. Okay,
Speaker 2: why is it playing terrible music? Okay, let's mute the
Speaker 2: music because we're not gonna get a strike. It's like,
Speaker 2: so these are aesthetic names Rowan Wren with Atlas Atlas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll misunderstand the word aesthetic. These are just names,
Speaker 4: but it's a vibe. Okay, that's posy.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's such a vibe. Okay.
Speaker 1: So like they're like all their only thingsthe baby names,
Speaker 1: and they that's just.
Speaker 4: One video.
Speaker 2: That's where if you're fucking with that account, which is
Speaker 2: official baby names one one one. But like these influencers,
Speaker 2: like people come to them because they want to know
Speaker 2: about like what's the most unique thing? Like I come
Speaker 2: to these accounts to find out like how how much
Speaker 2: like how how much of a niche unique name can
Speaker 2: I get? And like people because people don't want bum
Speaker 2: ass names like Emily or Jessica or Matt or even
Speaker 2: Miles it seems or they're like Miles is actually played
Speaker 2: the fuck out and I.
Speaker 4: Was like, what the fuck? Fuck?
Speaker 2: You don't give them anyway?
Speaker 1: So people want it not athetic though does being played
Speaker 1: out mean it's not it's not?
Speaker 2: Well? Aesthetic is one version and other ones are just
Speaker 2: people who are like, we just are looking for really
Speaker 2: unique names, so they will offer they will go to
Speaker 2: these influencers. And here's like one package that one of
Speaker 2: these name influencers offers a video consultation with sixteen baby
Speaker 2: name options for ninety nine dollars, an eight name package
Speaker 2: with extensive name analysis for one hundred and seventy five dollars,
Speaker 2: and a sixteen name package with name analysis for two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2: It sounds like somebody just putting together sixteen names on
Speaker 2: list and sending them to you and being like this
Speaker 2: is where they rank or whatever. And I mentioned the
Speaker 2: name Jessica shout out to two of my exes. But
Speaker 2: because that's like, that's the name of one of the
Speaker 2: women that runs in account And in an interview with
Speaker 2: vox like, it's clear she hates that her name is Jessica,
Speaker 2: like every other girl born in the eighties and early nineties.
Speaker 2: In this argus is quote I always say to my mom,
Speaker 2: you carried me for nine months, and you come up
Speaker 2: with Jessica after all that, after all we've been through.
Speaker 4: I mean, can I can I throw in a suggestion
Speaker 4: for these people? Change your name you don't like it,
Speaker 4: change your fucking name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the freedom.
Speaker 4: Why is this a hustle? Why is this? How are
Speaker 4: you charging people for essentially googling something for that I know?
Speaker 2: So here's the thing, Like, apparently this is like it's
Speaker 2: like this, this woman talked about how she has rules
Speaker 2: when she's stinging up a baby name. And apparently, and
Speaker 2: this isn't new. I've like I've interacted with people, friends,
Speaker 2: who are kind of like really into this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: But her rules are, quote, it cannot be in the
Speaker 2: top two hundred most popular baby names. She can't know
Speaker 2: anyone with the name. It has to be pronounceable by
Speaker 2: her family members with Boston accents, meaning paca and Atha
Speaker 2: are at atha advat, so you just kind of sound
Speaker 2: like Charmaine Buco and sopranos ahdi Addi anyway, and it
Speaker 2: has to be professional sounding. And she says, people get
Speaker 2: really angry when I said that, Well that seems a
Speaker 2: little coded, but yes, okay.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe that's why.
Speaker 2: And these inflorors put out videos that are like they
Speaker 2: have these other there's other videos of like, hey, these
Speaker 2: are some really popular names. I just want to warn people.
Speaker 2: They're becoming really popular and they're trending in them. And
Speaker 2: you know, if this is one of your kids' names,
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry that I'm having to.
Speaker 4: Tell you this.
Speaker 2: Like that's the tone of the video and it'll be like, okay,
Speaker 2: so if your name is if your baby's name is
Speaker 2: Silas or Finn or Mave, these are names that are
Speaker 2: becoming really popular and like I'm sorry, and like in
Speaker 2: the comments, people are freaking the fuck out like they're
Speaker 2: being accused of child endangerment because they're like my name,
Speaker 2: my baby name's trending, like it's a whole it's a
Speaker 2: whole thing. But yeah, I think the fact is, like,
Speaker 2: as they point out in Vox, like once families became
Speaker 2: smaller in the nineteen sixties and people weren't just like
Speaker 2: spitting out kids to like work the land, people began
Speaker 2: to put more like emphasis on names that weren't just
Speaker 2: like direct tributes to elder family members just to get
Speaker 2: like a name out, And then that's slowly morphed into
Speaker 2: where we are today, where the Internet has made everything
Speaker 2: a flex or a stunt or a competition, and naming
Speaker 2: a kid is like more akin to now a product
Speaker 2: fucking launch than welcoming a new member into your family.
Speaker 2: And I get it some people people think about for years,
Speaker 2: Like I have friends that have known what they were
Speaker 2: naming their kids since they were in elementary school.
Speaker 4: Okay, but the.
Speaker 2: Effect that social media has on us can't be understated,
Speaker 2: Like it really there's a whole thing now where people
Speaker 2: are because everything is available and people think about handles
Speaker 2: and branding now it's really wild Isabelle Munson in Real
Speaker 2: mag Growth. This is Real life mag Growth. This is
Speaker 2: I think it's really interesting just talking about the idea
Speaker 2: of what social media has done to us and like
Speaker 2: how we're commodifying our existences.
Speaker 4: Quote.
Speaker 2: Just as capitalism engenders the belief that our value is
Speaker 2: determined by our productivity, social as a business category influences
Speaker 2: our concept of the self, encouraging us to see self
Speaker 2: categorization on platforms not only as self realization, but as
Speaker 2: a source of capital. Our value then is based on
Speaker 2: effective self branding, and we're in like we're misspelling names
Speaker 2: like Kentucky and saying it's like, oh, that's Katiki my
Speaker 2: new daughter's name. It's really it's it's wild out there.
Speaker 2: It's wild out there.
Speaker 1: I do find baby names like inherently fascinating, like trends
Speaker 1: in baby names, because it's it's like such a meaningful decision,
Speaker 1: and it like changes so drastically these days for no
Speaker 1: good reason. Like I one of the things that like
Speaker 1: made me believe in a collective unconscious was that like,
Speaker 1: I had this name for fifteen years I was going
Speaker 1: to name my son if I ever had one, And
Speaker 1: then like a month before we're having our first son.
Speaker 1: I look it up to see like what the most
Speaker 1: popular names are, and it's like number Like it's become
Speaker 1: number one in the past like five years. Like the
Speaker 1: name that like for no reason, like Liam was the
Speaker 1: name for no fucking reason, like at all. It's just
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that is what everybody is naming
Speaker 1: their children, all at the same time. So I think,
Speaker 1: like those Trents, so we we went with pivoting instead.
Speaker 1: We pivoted Denise and because you know, we had to
Speaker 1: honor the man some way, right, But it's I don't know,
Speaker 1: it is very interesting and it's a like decision that
Speaker 1: I feel like people take very seriously. But you also,
Speaker 1: I mean, can't fuck it up too bad?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at the end of the day, like
Speaker 2: if you're a kid, like I've said this on the
Speaker 2: show before, I wish my name was DJ in the nineties.
Speaker 4: Okay, he's going to be Miles, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And then I grew out of that shit. I'm like, nah, man,
Speaker 2: fuck that, I'm like my fucking name and like, but
Speaker 2: there is like you know, even with naming my own son,
Speaker 2: it's just like you have names. But it was never
Speaker 2: It never got to a point where it's like who
Speaker 2: the fuck else has this name. It's more like what
Speaker 2: feels like it embodies the union of our families and
Speaker 2: whatever other things like because we're trying to honor, like
Speaker 2: you know, with first initials, because some people use that
Speaker 2: kind of name and convention ain't arrive at a name.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't as like rot as like being like
Speaker 2: get the fucking book, make sure it's on the top
Speaker 2: two hundred, or we've fucked up his entire life, or
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I just I had one name in particular that I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want the name to be like
Speaker 1: the what Ryan was when I was a kid, where
Speaker 1: like right, there were five Ryans in like all of
Speaker 1: my classes, Like for.
Speaker 2: The year you were born, Jack Ryan was the eleventh
Speaker 2: most popular name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, could have fooled me. It seemed like number one.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, that's in California. That's in California.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was in Ohio and West Virginia and New York.
Speaker 1: It was pretty fucking popular. It would seem Kentucky a
Speaker 1: lot of Ryan's, But I don't know, so that that's
Speaker 1: why I didn't. I didn't mind if the name was
Speaker 1: like somewhat popular. I just didn't want it to be
Speaker 1: like the number one, which Liam seems to be.
Speaker 2: I was really into the name Luis, the French name, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I liked the fucking weird like this, like how
Speaker 2: it looked with the interesting letters and like umlats of shit.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that shit looked cool, like if
Speaker 2: you're tagging that. Like this was where my mind was at.
Speaker 2: I was like, this would look dope if you're tagging
Speaker 2: this name because I was a tagger and I don't
Speaker 2: know if that that had value to me. And then
Speaker 2: like and it was also because there was like a
Speaker 2: soccer I heard name game, like a soccer game. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that's a cool name. But they were
Speaker 2: saying like lowick and I was like, okay, I ca
Speaker 2: fuck with that. And then after a while, I pretty
Speaker 2: much I was like, that's like when it come to
Speaker 2: naming my own kidd, like this doesn't really match at all.
Speaker 2: So I'm happy with his name. We're happy with his name.
Speaker 2: Method man great. Yeah, yeah it's adult name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. I don't like it sounds fascinating
Speaker 4: listening to you guys speak. I mean, I don't have kids,
Speaker 4: so I have not had to go through that. Do
Speaker 4: you have, n I'm temperaris that have and you've witnessed
Speaker 4: something like that. Yeah, but I've never witnessed people get
Speaker 4: so obsessed or down this rabbit hole, or even like
Speaker 4: even conceiving of paying people to come up with a
Speaker 4: baby name. Yeah, but I do remember, like I think
Speaker 4: everyone goes through this. I used to hate my name
Speaker 4: growing up, so I would constantly try to change it.
Speaker 4: So I'd introduce myself with different names that I thought
Speaker 4: were cool for one reason or another too, people like
Speaker 4: in a club or when I met new people, I'd
Speaker 4: be like, Hi, my name's Agnes and I don't know why,
Speaker 4: but people like it's not yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Like stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I was ready into, like French new wave cinema. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you got the.
Speaker 2: Varna do right now?
Speaker 4: You know, give me give me Ana's Varda right now?
Speaker 4: Oh thank you. Although I actually met her, she's she
Speaker 4: was lovely and super tiny and the night one of
Speaker 4: the nicest filmmakers I ever met. But like, there was
Speaker 4: this weird thing where your name becomes it's a match
Speaker 4: of a personality, even with a baby or like an
Speaker 4: energy because people clocked me immediately. They were like, no,
Speaker 4: you're not such a name. No, wy are you really? Yeah,
Speaker 4: there did not believe me. I was like, Hi, nice
Speaker 4: to meet you. I'm Agnes. I don't know. I was
Speaker 4: trying out names whenever.
Speaker 1: No, you're never. I was saying Agnes, but you are
Speaker 1: serving Anna. I'm sorry, you got big energy.
Speaker 2: I'm not a lie.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's funny.
Speaker 2: When I would get in trouble with old white people
Speaker 2: who didn't know me, I would always tell them my
Speaker 2: name was Orlando. That was my that was my fake name.
Speaker 2: They're like, what's your name? Who are your parents? I
Speaker 2: go I'm Orlando and they're like, well, get out of here, Orlando.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, fuck you. And I was talking about
Speaker 2: because of Orlando El Duque the picture for the Yankees.
Speaker 1: I thought you were just trying to subliminately remind them
Speaker 1: of Disney World, their favorite place on Earth.
Speaker 2: Your favorite place in Florida, Orlando.
Speaker 4: Oh it wasn't a Virginia Wolf novel. It wasn't that,
Speaker 4: but you were referencing.
Speaker 2: No, no, unfortunately not I was not.
Speaker 1: El Duques pictures.
Speaker 2: But it is like a thing too, or like like
Speaker 2: you know, you look at how people like in America,
Speaker 2: especially like on Instagram, the way people hard launch a baby.
Speaker 6: There's like fucking all this shit like they've they got
Speaker 6: banners made, fucking merch, Like people are really conscious of
Speaker 6: like how shit is gonna look on like that announcement post.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just kind of see how it's just
Speaker 2: kind of like trickling in where people can't even like
Speaker 2: trust their own own sense of like what they feel
Speaker 2: to name their own child. That it's now being like,
Speaker 2: well I don't trust myself to know what I should
Speaker 2: name my child. I'm going to surrender it to the algorithm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, essentially like yo.
Speaker 2: Come on now, relax a little bit. Shout out method man,
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 1: Shut out method man, young, method man.
Speaker 3: Moving method method baby. Right now, we're gonna get there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that is a that is a terrifying feeling. But like
Speaker 3: when we thought we were having a girl with our
Speaker 3: second we just were like we vibed it out.
Speaker 1: We were like, this is a girl, we have our
Speaker 1: girl name where we're good and it was a boy
Speaker 1: and we were like forty eight hours we were like
Speaker 1: what do we do here? Oh no, we just like
Speaker 1: I don't even remember how we came up with a name.
Speaker 4: It's wow.
Speaker 2: Oh so you really got caught like not doing your
Speaker 2: homework for the test.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well I also didn't want to, like I didn't want
Speaker 1: to like decide based on a fucking blog or whatever.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Want to decide based on what. Like one of my
Speaker 1: friends randomly texted back to me when the one person
Speaker 1: who responded to me at like three am, when I
Speaker 1: was like, look, man, I'm in a bad way, Like
Speaker 1: what do you think of this one? They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds good?
Speaker 4: Was all right?
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Also my sister, my sister, great guide. All right, Anna. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's been such a pleasure having you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been wonderful. Guys, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 4: So you can find me online on Twitter and Instagram
Speaker 4: at annabtamented you compare to the book anywhere you can
Speaker 4: buy books.
Speaker 2: And you can.
Speaker 4: Listen to me talk about horror movies over on the
Speaker 4: Final Girls podcast.
Speaker 2: It's a classic. Yeah, and are you talking? You're doing
Speaker 2: like succession wrap ups too, aren't you a little recaps?
Speaker 4: Oh god?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm also doing the successionistis with My Friend Mike,
Speaker 4: which recaps the current season of Succession. Yeah, that comes
Speaker 4: out every Tuesday morning. Got it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: How are you liking the season?
Speaker 4: I'm mixed on it. May I'm like some episodes old timer,
Speaker 4: episode Banger, just a stone called perfect hour of television,
Speaker 4: and others, I'm like, I'm very confused. How is this
Speaker 4: this up and down, up and down kind of roller coaster?
Speaker 4: But I almost like I want to reserve judgment until
Speaker 4: to see the whole thing, because the whole thing always
Speaker 4: like it needs to fit together, and then you get
Speaker 4: why certain episodes didn't quite work in isolation. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm in with it until the end. Like season
Speaker 4: two of Succession is probably a perfect season of television,
Speaker 4: and I love it. I'll watch every episode like three
Speaker 4: or four times. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is that is that the season where Greg takes the stand?
Speaker 1: Greg takes the stand? It is a great moment of television.
Speaker 2: Is that that season that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's with the cruises, with the cruises, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's when they go to It's with the iconic line
Speaker 4: of where Tom sent Greg sixty seven emails saying you
Speaker 4: need to break some you need to break some gregs
Speaker 4: to make a tomlet or you can't make a tomlat
Speaker 4: without breaking some gregs. Oh man, if it is to
Speaker 4: be said, so, it be five episode that Greg to
Speaker 4: like disgusting Brothers, Greg.
Speaker 2: Disgusting Brothers. Greg.
Speaker 4: He's losing points, man, I'm.
Speaker 1: Not He's like trying, He's trying something on.
Speaker 4: He's right, right right. It doesn't fit him though. Oh yeah, gross, dude,
Speaker 4: it's not such a natural vibe. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, if it is to be said, so, I.
Speaker 1: Thought episode three and four of the season were some
Speaker 1: of the best ever. But yeah, like, other than that,
Speaker 1: it's been kind of.
Speaker 2: Which which the I mean without spiling the big one,
Speaker 2: the big the family event one I was there were
Speaker 2: some times like, well, y'all are also like it was
Speaker 2: well directed, well performed. I was like, okay, y'all making
Speaker 2: me feel some shit too when I thought y'all didn't
Speaker 2: feel shit, which was I think why the episode hit
Speaker 2: so hard?
Speaker 1: Yeah, drama Tallurgically it made sense to quote Jeremy Strum,
Speaker 1: That's what he said in the making up documentary that
Speaker 1: immediately followed it. That is the only making of documentary
Speaker 1: that I like watch. Every time I watched the episode,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, we're going to do this again.
Speaker 2: I love that is closed this season are based on
Speaker 2: Elon Musk's looks, are they?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I was reading something that there was like a huge
Speaker 2: thing that like, yeah, we're taking a lot of inspiration
Speaker 2: from Elon Musk for Kendall's outfit.
Speaker 4: Also, there's I don't know if they're going to do
Speaker 4: the same thing. I'm sure they will in the States,
Speaker 4: but there's going to be a London screening of the
Speaker 4: finale and by the time it airs here it's like
Speaker 4: two am. So there's a cinema in London that will
Speaker 4: have the like a live stream of the show at
Speaker 4: two am screening in like a blake cinema, And I
Speaker 4: swear to god, if I don't get a fucking ticket
Speaker 4: for that event, I'm gonna put cinema down.
Speaker 1: All Right, you'all heard it. Alleged tickets, it said, so
Speaker 1: it be, So it is? So it is? Is there
Speaker 1: a work of media that you've been enjoying in Oh god.
Speaker 4: Well, I've honestly been thinking about this tweet for about
Speaker 4: a week. It's not the slutty Little Knees one. It's
Speaker 4: another one. Hold on a second, let me pull it up.
Speaker 4: So I saw the sweet like a couple a week
Speaker 4: or so ago by this woman who was like, novels
Speaker 4: are so great, They're just like I made up a
Speaker 4: little weirdo. Oh no. Now he's in trouble and I'm
Speaker 4: working on a on a piece of fiction. Now I'm like, oh, ship,
Speaker 4: that's all it is. I just have to make up
Speaker 4: this little stick figuring and put it in some trouble.
Speaker 1: That's great. Miles, Where can people find you as their
Speaker 1: working media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Yeah, find me on Twitter and Instagram, another at based
Speaker 2: places at Miles of Gray. Also check Jackie and I
Speaker 2: out on the latest episode of Miles and jack Got Mad.
Speaker 4: Matt Lucy, all the.
Speaker 2: NBA hosts Delicious right now shout out Joelle and b
Speaker 2: for securing that MVPVP MB anyway MBDP And also, yeah,
Speaker 2: find me and Sophia Alexandra on our ninety Day Fiance
Speaker 2: podcast for twenty Day Fiance where we smoke more weed
Speaker 2: than Willie Nelson ever did in his lifetime and talk
Speaker 2: about you know, immigration based reality romance shows. Now some
Speaker 2: tweets I like because the writer's strike is on and
Speaker 2: fucking popping right now. I just want to shout out
Speaker 2: some of the people who have been picketing and also
Speaker 2: some of their posting some of their signs, which is
Speaker 2: great because there's nothing wittier than writers who have a
Speaker 2: blank slate for their picket signs. Johnny Sun tweeted, I'll
Speaker 2: just I'll just show you some of these. He said, right,
Speaker 2: it's like they have the normal strike, strike or picket
Speaker 2: sign that says writers on strike, and he wrote, sure,
Speaker 2: I support a, I A all of our terms being
Speaker 2: met I in a fair and timely manner, because that's
Speaker 2: a huge contention point of contention right now in negotiations
Speaker 2: where they're like, I don't know, like, hey, a you
Speaker 2: guys worried And then at Katie Delaney tweeted her sign,
Speaker 2: which was a picture of Tim Robinson from I Think
Speaker 2: You Should Leave, and it says.
Speaker 4: You don't want a negotiate a deal with a w
Speaker 4: G A you sure about that? Sure about that? That's
Speaker 4: not what you want?
Speaker 2: So I love any references to that show. But anyway, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's coming back soon, right end of May. Yeah, end
Speaker 2: of the month, all right, tweet.
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying Colin Crawford finally an entire board of Smorgas,
Speaker 1: which I think it's Borg of Smorgas, but I got
Speaker 1: the meaning and I liked it. And that is the
Speaker 1: text that I randomly scrolled to, or the tweet I
Speaker 1: randomly scrolled to. So that's my to that. You can
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brian. You can
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Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode.
Speaker 4: Well, it is a song that.
Speaker 1: We think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, what song do
Speaker 1: you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: So in the past, we've I remember gone out on
Speaker 2: the song by a song by the group seventy nine
Speaker 2: point five. The track then was this track called Sisters
Speaker 2: Unarmed and it's dope like they're very like they're they're
Speaker 2: multi genre type artists. Like it's like part disco, part
Speaker 2: funky jazz part like it's also like kind of ESG.
Speaker 2: They have they have just many vibes. But they have
Speaker 2: a new track out and it's actually so I was
Speaker 2: listening to the CACRW, the local radio station, and they
Speaker 2: were talking about this song that just came out, and
Speaker 2: they're like, and the reference is actually a soprano's reference
Speaker 2: to like. The new track name is called long Term Parking,
Speaker 2: which is an episode, very very seminal episode of the Sopranos,
Speaker 2: or something happens, but the person on the air just
Speaker 2: fucking goes in and just says what happened in the episode.
Speaker 2: And I don't know why I felt so INSTI I'm like,
Speaker 2: don't spoil that for people who didn't see that nineteen
Speaker 2: years ago. The fuck is wrong with you. But anyway,
Speaker 2: this track is called Long Term Parking and it's by
Speaker 2: none other than seventy nine point five, So check it out.
Speaker 2: It's a really dope track.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we link off to that in the footnotes.
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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us this morning, back this
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Speaker 1: yo then by bye.