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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Hi

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Speaker 1: Guys Speak Shift production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where

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Speaker 1: we take a deep dive into America share consciousness. It's

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Speaker 1: crazy that we've done this show thousands of times. I've

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Speaker 1: pasted a couple of days of taken my eyes off

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Speaker 1: first sentence about saying this season episode, yeah, this season,

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Speaker 1: in this episode anyways, today, May fourth three? Yeah, May

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Speaker 1: the fourth be with you and also with you and

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Speaker 1: with your spirit is mercy and Durath forever.

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Speaker 2: Thanks beings and yours. Also National Self Employed Day, World

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Speaker 2: Password Day, Bird Day, Bird Day. Also National Candied orange

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Speaker 2: Field Day. Who the fuck is that? Okay, whatever, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Have to get national candied Orge, Big National candied Orge

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Speaker 1: Peel having their way with us again?

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Speaker 2: Who did that?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Is that like just big orange is way to be? Like,

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Speaker 2: how can we take the refuse from our industry and

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Speaker 2: then give it a second life?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like that, or like somebody who's really

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Speaker 1: into candied orange fields and has a personality disorder and

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Speaker 1: it's just like nobody gives me my propers when it

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Speaker 1: comes to how good these damn things are.

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Speaker 4: I don't yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: For whatever, any kind of citrus peeled type candy. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: this is absolutely not for me. But anyway, if it's

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Speaker 2: for you, then hey, get down, today's your day.

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Speaker 1: Tricking me into thinking my garnish is edible for years,

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Speaker 1: you ever had like one of those ones that's like

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Speaker 1: candied like flash, you know, it's just like super hard,

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Speaker 1: like slices of lemon or lime or orange. You try

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Speaker 1: and chew it and it's might as well be chewing

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Speaker 1: like a piece of wax fruit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I do it all the time. So my favorite past come.

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Speaker 1: You guys ever seen this year has been heard about this.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien aka, Hey Chucky, You're the cane,

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Speaker 1: You're the king. It's your new thing. Hey Chucky, Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 1: hey hey Chucky. Oh Chucky, you're so lucky, you're the

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Speaker 1: king to be. You take me by the heart, pledging

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Speaker 1: to you on TV. Oh Chucky, you're so lucky. Sovereign

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Speaker 1: of the lance getting coronated using tickets on demand that

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Speaker 1: is courtesy on the discord.

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Speaker 4: Damn.

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Speaker 1: He had a part after that that I say, like

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Speaker 1: I just don't know the song well enough, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't do the work to know what I was supposed

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Speaker 1: to do after that, But okay, thank you to Rezaik.

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Speaker 1: Great work in honor of our royal coronation coming up

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Speaker 1: in a mere days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my

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Speaker 1: co host, mister Miles Gray.

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Speaker 4: Don't worry about me.

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Speaker 2: It's Miles Gray, the Lord of Lancasham, the true king

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Speaker 2: of the North Hollywood. Okay, great to be here. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for having me. Jack thinks so much

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Speaker 2: for having You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: I've been waiting for you to thank me for having

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Speaker 1: on our show.

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Speaker 2: I know people been handing me notes. You're like, Jack

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Speaker 2: would really like it, he.

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Speaker 1: Would really appreciate it this time. Maybe I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: show a little fucking gratitude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, and I will do the Homage of the

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Speaker 2: People later for you, Jack, where I will, I will

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Speaker 2: swear fealty to you. Well podcast domain.

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Speaker 1: Miles, We're thrilled to be joining our third third seat

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Speaker 1: by someone who this was probably must must be excited

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Speaker 1: about the what is it? The Fealty of the People, The.

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Speaker 2: Homage of Peers homage of the People, Homage of the.

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Speaker 1: Homage of the People. It's a film programmer, a curator,

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Speaker 1: a podcast host, and an author of the upcoming book

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Speaker 1: Unlikable Female Characters, the women pop culture wants you to hate.

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Speaker 4: It's Anna Botska.

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Speaker 2: Welcome.

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Speaker 4: I'm terrified, terrifyin guys. Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for being here. And you are in London.

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Speaker 4: I am indeed.

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Speaker 1: How are you preparing for His Royal Highness's royal coronache.

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Speaker 4: Well, I am preparing to avoid central London during that

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Speaker 4: entire day. Okay, I'm prepared to be in hiding for

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Speaker 4: that day, trying to make sure to avoid the monarchists

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it can be a little overwhelming. I get it

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Speaker 1: to just like see God's one true big boy, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But I know, you know what, I somehow and always

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Speaker 4: end up in countries where there's royal families still pottering around.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know how I've managed to do that

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Speaker 4: in my lifetime. I grew up in Spain, I grew

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Speaker 4: And then I moved to London. Obviously there's a big

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Speaker 4: now I'm like, no, what appointments are being canceled? Stuff's

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Speaker 4: not's happening. Yeah, we get a buying holiday, but I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I'm a freelancer. I'm still gonna have to work on Monday. Right,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going in to salute the new king because, right,

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Speaker 4: someone has to work. Well, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: You brought up Fana because Jack and I both have

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Speaker 2: been there, you know, cultured people. Whereabouts did you grow up?

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Speaker 4: Oh? So I grew up in Barcelona and I lived

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Speaker 4: in Madrid before moving there. Where did you?

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Speaker 4: I did, oh, whereabouts, like in the city, in the city.

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Speaker 1: I was sixteen years old and don't remember much of

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Speaker 4: That means, it's a good time. It's still the best

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Speaker 2: In the summer, I was in Barcelona for a little

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Speaker 2: I love Catalonia. I love I love the energy of

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Speaker 4: When I was in Madrid, I love Malasania.

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Speaker 4: I always felt the opposite. I've never been to La

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Speaker 4: Next time you're in Madrid, or if you ever in

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Speaker 4: best places map down. Okay, perfect, you you will not

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Speaker 1: Exact Madrid, there's just like a public park where all

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Speaker 4: World right here in our own backyard. Hey who fair?

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Speaker 1: Yes they have all right, And we're going to get

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Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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Speaker 1: we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the

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Speaker 4: We're going to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We found out a little bit more maybe on why

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Speaker 1: Tucker got fired. According to Fox, they have a they

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Speaker 1: it's an interesting piece of evidence. Doesn't change what I

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Speaker 1: think about Tucker Carson, but it does confirm some suspicions

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Speaker 4: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about McDonald's child labor violations, being that that

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about baby names, Miles. You just went through.

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Speaker 1: jacking off today, all of that plenty more. But first

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Speaker 1: and uh and by the way, to so, did I

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Speaker 1: pronounce your name right? Is it Bogatska, It's buckets Kaya,

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're about pronunciations to your last episode of Final Girls.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I've for fucking some reason I heard it

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Speaker 2: Was like a weird.

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Speaker 4: Busky Okay, yeah, that's don't don't worry about it. It's

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Speaker 1: It's so buckets kaya. I was gonna be like everybody,

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Speaker 1: just so you know, it's spelled differently than it's pronounced.

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Speaker 1: It's it's spelled buggets kaya. So go Google find the

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Speaker 2: Leave it all in silent why, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I can't trust the podcast.

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Speaker 1: An We do like to ask our guests, what is

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Speaker 1: something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I considered this for so long. You have

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Speaker 4: no idea how deep I went into my own search

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Speaker 4: history for this show. Okay, but honestly, the last like

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Speaker 4: ten to fifteen searches have been different iterations of slutty

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Speaker 4: little knees, So there is I was, yeah, but actually

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Speaker 4: it wasn't actually even the pictures. It was trying to

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Speaker 4: deep into Twitter, being like, what depraved mind, depraved and

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Speaker 4: brilliant mind coined the term sully little knies And.

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Speaker 1: How poetic soul.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's my people.

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Speaker 1: Oh you did you found out because we were talking

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Speaker 1: someone have a full body orgasm. That was the headline

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Speaker 2: but I think this person you should write about their life. Okay, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: of the water about like why people didn't like the character.

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Speaker 4: Do you think it literally did? I'm so embarrassed. Now

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Speaker 4: I have to go in and do like a whole

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Speaker 4: new chapter just about your lobes. You know, it's a

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Speaker 4: whole thing. With my publishers.

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Speaker 1: You get the low edition, that's more money, that's more

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Speaker 1: copies printed.

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Speaker 4: That book cover is just that your lob.

447
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Speaker 1: The book so is your I'm assuming there's like both

448
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Speaker 1: of this, but is like part of it they're being

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Speaker 1: written unlikable by like male writers, and part of it

450
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Speaker 1: just like misogynistic culture that is like deeming them unlikable

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Speaker 1: or kind of a sirl of that.

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Speaker 4: Kind of a swirl. Part of it is also just

453
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Speaker 4: trying to understand what unlikable even means. So I keep

454
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Speaker 4: hearing this word. It keeps popping up and think pieces

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Speaker 4: and media in like production meetings and you know, in

456
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Speaker 4: the industry in general. Yeah, oh, you just gotta make

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Speaker 4: her more likable because otherwise why would we watch her?

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, but what does that mean? Do

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Speaker 4: you just why don't you like her? Like? What is

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Speaker 4: she doing that's so wrong? I don't fucking know. I

461
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Speaker 4: wrote the book, and I'm like, there is no reason.

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Speaker 4: It's just our weird projections on women that were then

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Speaker 4: putting on two fictional characters. But it is a little

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Speaker 4: bit of you know, just plain old misogyny from us,

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Speaker 4: from all of us as we watch these films and decide,

466
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Speaker 4: you know what, she's a bitch, I'm gonna hate her,

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Speaker 4: and I'm going to hate the actress that plays her too,

468
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Speaker 4: because she plays her too well, so it means that

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Speaker 4: she must be a bitch in real life too. And

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Speaker 4: that combined with like, you know, the writers and the

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Speaker 4: way that they create those characters to be villains. But

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Speaker 4: then one thing that I really love is and this

473
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Speaker 4: is how I you know, why I love these characters

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Speaker 4: is that even though the films or the shows present

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Speaker 4: them to us as sort of villains or as characters

476
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Speaker 4: we should hate because of whatever reason, we still love them. Right,

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Speaker 4: We're still gravitate towards them, we still want to watch them,

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Speaker 4: we still want to spend time with them. And that

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Speaker 4: is the nugget of like really interesting kind of love

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Speaker 4: for these unlikable characters that is at the heart of

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Speaker 4: the book as well.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, because I feel like everyone's like, I hate Lena,

483
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Speaker 2: heates ass fucking Circe Lanister get the fuck up. Like

484
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Speaker 2: I remember like that. There was a while when I

485
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 2: feel like people around were like also had an unreasonable

486
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Speaker 2: like they're just like, oh I get sick when I

487
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Speaker 2: look at her or whatever, But I also love it.

488
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: I love that shit, And you're like, wow, the duality

489
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Speaker 2: here is really something.

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Speaker 4: Well remember the hatred, the you know, Anna gun god

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Speaker 4: on breaking back like people.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna I was going to bring that up,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, but that would just end up

494
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Speaker 1: being the whole episode it's talking about, like how just

495
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Speaker 1: over the top. That was like a weird thing where

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Speaker 1: the entire nation just like flipped a switch.

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Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, that revealed a lot where like they're

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Speaker 2: like they're like, she's getting in the way of his crimes. Yes,

499
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Speaker 2: what that's a dislikable Okay.

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Speaker 1: Oh now she takes the money.

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Speaker 4: Wow Skyler, Wow, yeah, she's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Wall cook. Yeah, literally let him cook.

503
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Speaker 4: Let Wall cook that ship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well it sounds like an amazing book.

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Speaker 1: Instead of continuing this conversation, we will direct listeners to

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Speaker 1: go by the book and continue with your pros. The

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Speaker 1: book is called Unlikable Female Characters and it's available for

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Speaker 1: pre order. It seems like everywhere was a.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be out everywhere for pre order on paperbag

510
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: and ebook, and it's out on the ninth of May.

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Speaker 4: Ninth of May. Go do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and

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Speaker 1: talk about the.

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Speaker 5: News, and we're back.

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Speaker 1: And when Tucker Carlson got fired, a lot of people

516
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Speaker 1: had questions because the stuff that they seem to be

517
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Speaker 1: pointing out about him was evident on the air every

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Speaker 1: single night of his show. It seemed to be the

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Speaker 1: main thesis of his show was that he was a racist, misogynist.

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Speaker 1: And so we've just been waiting for more information to

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Speaker 1: come out. Some information has come out, and then last

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Speaker 1: night or two nights ago, big bomb drop. The New

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Speaker 1: York Times published a story with a very like, very

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Speaker 1: interesting phrase in a text from Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like a piece where, oh, and are

526
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: you familiar with Tucker Carlson? Are our violent ethno nationalist

527
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Speaker 2: commentator on Fox News?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Good, because yeah, the New York Times. I just want

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Speaker 2: to it's it. I'm gonna just start off by saying

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Speaker 2: it sounds like the New York Times is helping Fox out,

532
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Speaker 2: and we'll get to why a little bit later, but

533
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Speaker 2: they're they open up this this report by saying, quote

534
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: a text message sent by Tucker Carlson that's set off

535
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Speaker 2: a panic at the highest levels of Fox on the

536
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Speaker 2: eve of its billion dollar defamation trial, showed its most

537
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Speaker 2: popular host sharing his private, inflammatory views about violence and race.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, this is fucking private views. What are

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Speaker 2: you Okay? What could those be? Well, let's read the

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00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: text in questions, shall we? This is from Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna say?

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Speaker 1: I just listening to the just reading the text, Like

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Speaker 1: It's why. I've never seen somebody who texts exactly as

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Speaker 1: they speak on television. It's so weird.

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Speaker 4: It's like how Parts signs a yearbook.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he texts.

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00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: It's so crazy cool. Anyways, Okay, this is the this

548
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Speaker 1: is Simpsons.

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Speaker 2: He writes theook, he writes the way he talks. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: So this is a this is a text he's sent

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Speaker 2: on January seventh, twenty twenty one. Okay, the night after

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Speaker 2: January sixth, he tweeted or he texted quote. A couple

553
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Speaker 2: of weeks ago, I was watching video of people fighting

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Speaker 2: on the street in Washington. A group of Trump guys

555
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Speaker 2: surrounded an Antifa kid and started pounding the living shit

556
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Speaker 2: out of him. It was three against one.

557
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Speaker 4: At least.

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Speaker 2: Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable. Obviously, it's not

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Speaker 2: how white men fight. WHOA would have been in that one.

560
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for the mob against

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Speaker 2: that man, hoping they'd hit him harder, kill him. I

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Speaker 2: really wanted them to hurt the kid. I could taste it.

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Speaker 2: Then something deep in my brain and alarm went off.

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Speaker 2: This isn't good for me. I'm becoming something I don't

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Speaker 2: want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being.

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Speaker 2: Much as I despise what he says and does, much

567
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Speaker 2: as I'm sure i'd hate him personally if I knew him,

568
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Speaker 2: I shouldn't gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered

569
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Speaker 2: by it. I should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves

570
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Speaker 2: this kid and would be crushed if he was killed.

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Speaker 2: If I don't care about those things, if I reduce

572
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Speaker 2: people to their politics, how am I better than he is?

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Speaker 1: And then like somebody presumably like thumbs up that or something.

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Speaker 2: Like who texts like that? The three exclamation points like

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Speaker 2: the part that part right there. I'm sorry, Tucker, how

576
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: do white men fight? Like what are you saying?

577
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 2: Are we talking about like old school pugilism, like hey,

579
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Speaker 2: put your dukes up and like you're doing this shit

580
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Speaker 2: and just like fucking you're doing that kind of thing,

581
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Speaker 2: or you mean the other way white men fight, like

582
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Speaker 2: giving disease blankets to indigenous people or like you know,

583
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Speaker 2: scriminally dropping bombs on defenseless you know, groups of civilians.

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Speaker 2: Which which way are you talking about, Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 1: There's so this is like, like you said, this is

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Speaker 1: unsurprising quantitatively is what he said on his show every night.

587
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: But that like the texture of that phrase is like

588
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: so reminiscent of like Leonardo DiCaprio's character in Django Unchained,

589
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: like so thoroughly like Antebellum South, Like it just just

590
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Speaker 1: feels like, for whatever reason, that sentence was like, Oh,

591
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: there is a basement before below the basement where every

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Speaker 1: like the just open and depraved white supremacy that like

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00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: I kind of suspected was always going on with these

594
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Speaker 1: people is actually happening. Like the fact that he just

595
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: casually put through that out there, there's just like something

596
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: there that's like a little brief window into how he

597
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: actually talks.

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Speaker 2: And thinks right, like to another white supremacist like, yeah, man,

599
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: that's true.

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Speaker 4: It's not how white men fight. It's dishonorable.

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00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: It's like how I would be like talking to a

602
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: Laker fantom like that's not how we played basket ball, right,

603
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: and the LA Lakers are like, you fucking right.

604
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: But this is like about the.

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Speaker 2: I guess, the purity of of of white pugilism. I guess,

606
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: But the logic here, I'm so Apparently this text was

607
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: beyond the pale for the exacts at Fox, and they

608
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: figured that with the dominion trial about to happen, that

609
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: this was just going to make things worse because they

610
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Speaker 2: didn't want this to come out a lot like during

611
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: his testimony, et cetera. That's what that's that's what they're saying.

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00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: But they knew about these texts because it was part

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Speaker 2: of the discovery process, like when you know you're fucking

614
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Speaker 2: like in the middle of a lawsuit, So they they

615
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: presumably knew about this already. And also he has a

616
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: show where he constantly talks about the virtues of Western

617
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: European whiteness and shit all the fucking time. So it

618
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Speaker 2: just feels like they're like the New York Times kind

619
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Speaker 2: of helping Fox do damage control over the dominion lawsuit

620
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Speaker 2: while also making the board seem like soul having humans

621
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Speaker 2: who were like, you know what we're actually not with

622
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Speaker 2: white grievance politics here?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Interesting, and that's what I'm that's it's like sort of

625
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Speaker 2: confounding or is it a way to spin like the

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Speaker 2: largest defamation settlement ever by it being like it wasn't

627
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Speaker 2: because of all the election lies we settled, it was

628
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Speaker 2: because Tucker's racism would have been a blight on our

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Speaker 2: network if it came out in such a public way

630
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Speaker 2: in a trial. I'm still still struggling to find like

631
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Speaker 2: how they want us to believe? What is like what

632
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Speaker 2: the reasoning is here? Because it sounds like a reason

633
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Speaker 2: but I'm not, like, I'm just like, is that really

634
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Speaker 2: what it is? Are you patting yourselves on the back

635
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: or being like and that was just a bridge too

636
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Speaker 2: far for us at Fox.

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Speaker 1: There was also the story where did you I think

638
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Speaker 1: we covered it on this on this show like one

639
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Speaker 1: of the trending episodes that Rupert Murdoch was like engaged

640
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Speaker 1: to be married again? To this like I forget, like

641
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Speaker 1: she was like a real estate person or she was

642
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: like my angel yeah, evangelists, And then that got called

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Speaker 1: off and there are rumors behind the scene that she

644
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Speaker 1: was she like believed Tucker Carlson was like the second

645
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Speaker 1: coming of Christ, like had that he had been over

646
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: to their house, had dinner with like Ruber Murdoch, his fiance,

647
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Speaker 1: and the next morning the engagement was called off. And

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Speaker 1: then like a week later, Tucker Carlson was fired.

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Speaker 2: You're laughing too hard at his jokes.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I could see there being some weird personal grievance shit,

651
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Speaker 1: Like I'm guessing it's like there there are so many

652
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Speaker 1: good reasons that he was fired, but also like the

653
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Speaker 1: real reason is probably something stupid.

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Speaker 2: And probably feeling like it's succession esque because the pr

655
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Speaker 2: spin on it feels like a group full of people

656
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: who have lost their tether to reality. You're like, yeah, yeah, man, tell.

657
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: That to the public. They'll they'll believe that.

658
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that the realism was too much, And I'm like, Okay,

659
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: was this written by Kendall Roy, Like it has that

660
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: energy in it.

661
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: I'd be worried that my view of reality is being

662
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: too heavily influenced by Succession, except for the fact that

663
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: Ruber Murdock apparently is worried that his life is affecting

664
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: Succession too much, because he filed lawsuits being like, you

665
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: can't use details from my life and the writing of Succession,

666
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: So it seems like there's some bleed there.

667
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Well I don't know. I mean, what's your

668
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: how do you feel? I know, like, looking upon this

669
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Speaker 2: medium mess that we have over here, Well.

670
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Speaker 4: As I told you guys before we hit record, I

671
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 4: love mess. Yeah, I'm enjoying.

672
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: All the way.

673
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Speaker 2: Do you think what do you think makes more sense

674
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: that it was that they're like this is like spin

675
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: to try and humanize the board for being like and

676
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: you see they actually cut ties with him. Or is

677
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: this is this like some like you know Connor Roy,

678
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: like this is like Roy Family, Roy Star Waco kind

679
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: of shit?

680
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: What is it?

681
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: I think it makes us look better that we just

682
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: do not understand the moves that are being made. I

683
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: think if we, if it made sense to us, it

684
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 4: would mean that we're in the same wave length as

685
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: these people, and that is a questionable place to be

686
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 4: morally ethically in every single way.

687
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: So Tucker Carlson to look for answers about why he

688
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: got fired. I'm just like glad he got fired, right

689
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: a good life philosophy that I would have if I

690
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: was a more mentally healthy, less spiteful person.

691
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well there's that. I mean, I also,

692
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: can I really do like the idea that Rupert Murdoch

693
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 2: was just so incensed Beyonce like like giving him attention

694
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 2: that he just did like a like Roman firing Joy

695
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: the studio exact kind of thing, was like.

696
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, or you could be fired. I don't know how

697
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 4: about that. But also you know that he broke up

698
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: with every single one of his wife's via email.

699
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Speaker 1: The best way to do it if you ask me.

700
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Speaker 4: Day notice saying I'm sorry, we have the hard ways.

701
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 4: I'm afraid this is not working out for either of

702
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: us right now.

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Speaker 1: And also you always ended on a good because it

704
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: ends with best Jack, so they know that I have

705
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: the best intentions.

706
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: And also, yeah, click my link tree underneath kind of

707
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: see what a come if you're into it. I know

708
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: things kind of went south. That's why I always have

709
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 2: been broken up with at Chipotle every time for some reason.

710
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Speaker 1: I hate beggars, can't be choosers.

711
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Speaker 4: Man, they can't. I know.

712
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. McDonald's, Hey, I'll tell you.

713
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: What we're not loving is McDonald's child labor law violations.

714
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: The Department of Labor has stepped in and McDonald's in

715
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: bitter trouble for employing two ten year old children who

716
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Speaker 1: worked as late as two am, one of which operated

717
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: the deep friar, which is a prohibited task for workers

718
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Speaker 1: under sixteen years old. Claim that the kids that McDonald's

719
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Speaker 1: claimed that the kids or so McDonald's is like franchised,

720
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: so they just like give people the ability to run

721
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Speaker 1: McDonald's with apparently absolutely zero oversight because these people claimed

722
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Speaker 1: that the kids were merely visiting a parent who works

723
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Speaker 1: as a night manager. And the Department of Labels like labors, like,

724
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Speaker 1: you've employed twenty four miners under the age of sixteen

725
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Speaker 1: to work more than legally permitted hours. So get the

726
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Speaker 1: fuck out of here with this bring your daughter to

727
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: work shit like this is those just.

728
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Speaker 2: They're all pattern I'm like, God, they're all my children,

729
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: thank you. It's how I look at them. And they

730
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Speaker 2: wanted to come to, you know, work with me. That's

731
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Speaker 2: all it's it's a very man. It's just such a

732
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Speaker 2: dark time too, because there's so many Republicans too, like

733
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: trying to legislate this kind of stuff, like yeah, man,

734
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Speaker 2: kids should be able to fucking work. Yeah, you know,

735
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: like fourteen year olds, they need to be able to

736
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Speaker 2: work a lot longer. Like I know they were in Iowa,

737
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Speaker 2: like they were really had their eye on a bill

738
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Speaker 2: like that. I'm not sure if it actually went through it.

739
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Speaker 2: It may have, but there's just so many levels of

740
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: fucking tragedy to it. To it's like it because on

741
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: one level, you know, these kids they're not working because

742
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: they're like I want to work at McDonald's as a

743
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: fucking thirteen year old. They're probably in a terrible situation

744
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: where they're only financial recourse is to try and work

745
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: at McDonald's at such a young age, you know what

746
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean. And then there's always somebody who's willing to

747
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: be like, hey, well you know, we got a friar

748
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Speaker 2: shift late at night once you get homework done, if

749
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Speaker 2: you want to come by for that, and just like.

750
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Speaker 1: Yeah, wo fuck, just the worst I mean, yeah, So

751
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Speaker 1: Arkansas is scrapping age verification requirements for workers younger than

752
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Speaker 1: sixteen years old. Missouri Republicans are eyeing a similar move.

753
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: Wisconsin Republican led legislature introduced a bill that would allow

754
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Speaker 1: kids as young as fourteen to serve alcohol in bars

755
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Speaker 1: and restaurants, but to seated customers only, which.

756
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Speaker 2: Wait, oh yeah, like as opposed to like someone at

757
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Speaker 2: a like at the bar.

758
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't like be behind the bar like shaking

759
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: up cocktails while like a.

760
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Speaker 2: Oh so you want to be able to have the

761
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Speaker 2: fourteen year old bring your my tie to the table like, okay,

762
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Speaker 2: I see.

763
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Speaker 1: Man, But as a teenage alcoholic, I would have done

764
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: succession level Macavellian maneuvering to get a job where I

765
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Speaker 1: was serving alcohol at the age of like sixteen, like

766
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Speaker 1: five years away from being to drink, be to being

767
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Speaker 1: able to drink. But I get to serve it responsibly Jesus.

768
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. This is just another example

769
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: of this thing like American capitalism as currently constituted is

770
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: a system that overtly and almost exclusively rewards predation, Like

771
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: it is just predators praying on people who are have

772
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Speaker 1: less power than them, and we're going to continue to

773
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Speaker 1: see this level, just like New and new lows new

774
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: and like lower lows when.

775
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Speaker 4: As the basement beyond the basement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, again, the basement under the basement is what we're

777
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: seeing here. But I just think that as long as

778
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Speaker 1: the myth is still there, that like there is some

779
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: meritocratic value to who becomes rich in this country. Like

780
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: we're kind of fucked because like we need to get

781
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Speaker 1: people's minds back to a place where, you know, there

782
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: is an understanding that companies with power will use that

783
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: power to exploit you unless you have some you know,

784
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: collective power to to push back with.

785
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Speaker 2: And it's funny too, because like to your point and

786
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: about memoirs, it's like the memoir ification of successful wealthy

787
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: people has also completely fucked up people's concept of like

788
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: how to become successful, Like from yeah, oh I don't

789
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: know that guy lifted themselves up by the bootstrap.

790
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 4: Why can't I.

791
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 2: It's like, no, the game's rigged against you already, Yeah,

792
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: or even just.

793
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Speaker 4: To live a life before you consider like writing about

794
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 4: it or thinking that you have something to teach other people,

795
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 4: Like what are you teaching us exactly? Like are you

796
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 4: just selling? Are you just selling the idea of constant

797
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 4: hustle like to you, guys, this point is, are you

798
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 4: just selling idea of work yourself to death in this

799
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 4: particular way? Because that is what I did, and that

800
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: is what I will continue doing for the rest of

801
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 4: my life, and maybe maybe you will be just like me.

802
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: But that path, whatever that path might be, you know,

803
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 4: be it love island or anything else, it changes, and

804
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 4: it's never available for everyone. It's barely available to the

805
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 4: people who actually get it and forget those deals in

806
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 4: the first place.

807
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's barely available to anyone. And let other than

808
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: the people who already know that it's available to them,

809
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: and they're not going to tell you that it's available

810
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: to Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Here, here a listener. Here's the exercise you can find

812
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: out if this path is available to you. Check your

813
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: pockets right now, okay, go with through your pockets. Are

814
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: there fucking emeralds in there? Do you have any loose

815
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: emeralds in your pockets?

816
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 4: No?

817
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: Oh, well you're not like Elon then, So.

818
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: Here's how you have a chance at being a billionaire.

819
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: Do your parents have a private wealth manager that like

820
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: the whose full time job it is to grow their wealth. No,

821
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: they're probably in the States. Yeah, anyways. I mean there's

822
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of structural things, and like Congress hasn't

823
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: passed a law that's just advantageous to like billionaires and

824
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: uh an entire generation. The Supreme Court keeps pushing things

825
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: in the direction of corporations, but there is I feel

826
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: like also just the media has fully bought into the

827
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Speaker 1: corporate I like, the idea that what corporations tell us

828
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: is the truth and that like that's the way to

829
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: run a society is just like that that Clintonian idea

830
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: of like taking in the neoliberal ideas of like free

831
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: market and running the entire civilization like that, And it's

832
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: just not working. And I think it has gotten into

833
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: people's bloodstream where now nobody thinks of selling out as

834
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: being a thing. Is that used to be a thing

835
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: that you would look down on. Now it's like, yeah,

836
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: I get the bag, which is totally understandable, but it

837
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: just feels like in this very specific form of late

838
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: stage hypercapitalism, it's very dangerous that like we we don't

839
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: have the cultural kind.

840
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Speaker 2: Of well a defense well the like the options are

841
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: so minimal right for like upward mobility that like it's

842
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: like in this country, like we've just been mainlining this

843
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: kind of fucked up financial propaganda where it's sort of like,

844
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: hey man, I know it feels like your back's against

845
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: the wall, but you might luck out like one of

846
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: these exalted people, and that's gonna keep you alive for

847
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: a little bit longer while we get a little more

848
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: labor out of you, like and because of that, we're

849
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: caught in this fucking rat wheel. And like you know,

850
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: like again, that wasn't until the pandemic happened where people

851
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: were like, well, the what the fuck is what the

852
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: fuck is this? And they were really good the checks

853
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: cut the checks off, cut them off because people are

854
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: getting fucking ideas now.

855
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah.

856
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a kind of a fucked up situation.

857
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, let us know, if you guys are seeing

858
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: ten year olds at your local McDonald's fucking fries, please and.

859
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: That's the answer. Just tip those ten year olds to

860
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: tip them better.

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00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: That's going to be a piece in the Atlantic soon, yeah,

862
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: or the Wall Street Journal is going to be like,

863
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: what we need to do is actually advocate for child tips.

864
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, thank you. What heartwarming story of this

865
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: child coming home from work at McDonald's at four in

866
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: the morning and a wealthy person was driving by and

867
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: decided to buy them a new pair of shoes, right

868
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: because there's had holes in them. Heartwarming story. Absolutely, all right,

869
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break, we'll come back, we'll talk

870
00:45:49,160 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: baby dames.

871
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 5: And we're back.

872
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: And uh, social media has completely fucked up how we

873
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Speaker 1: named babies, it seems, I think so.

874
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 2: I'm look. I've been on TikTok for the last year

875
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: or so, just mouth a gape, watching it for hours

876
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: at a time, and I've come across all kinds of content.

877
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,959
Speaker 2: And ever since the algorithm figured out I'm a parent,

878
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: now I get weird parenting content. I'm seeing weird hacks

879
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: about like how to know how your baby's asleep. You

880
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: look at how clenched their fist is. If their fist

881
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: is clenched, they are not sleeping or whatever. No, it's

882
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: how full their stomach is. That's how you can tell

883
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: how much to feed your baby. And people are like,

884
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with it. That's how they sleep.

885
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: And my doctor here, that's not true. Shut up, doctor,

886
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: this is TikTok. You fucking hate her.

887
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: But doctors have to spend half of their workday, just

888
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: debunking shit they see on TikTok.

889
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: Right, and like I see all kinds of stuff like that.

890
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: And then then I started seeing this, like stuff about

891
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: like esthetic names for babies, like oh, you want an

892
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: aesthetic name for a baby?

893
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 4: Uh?

894
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: And it seems that like baby naming content is becoming

895
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: more and more popular, and there's now like there there

896
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: are influencers around baby naming, like people who're like, yo,

897
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: they fucking come with the sickest names in the game.

898
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: Right now, let me play like I'm gonna play a

899
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: clip for you of like one of these things of

900
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: like just how these videos are of like these are

901
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 2: these are esthetic baby names?

902
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: Uh?

903
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: So you can like vibe out your child's energy. Okay,

904
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: why is it playing terrible music? Okay, let's mute the

905
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: music because we're not gonna get a strike. It's like,

906
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: so these are aesthetic names Rowan Wren with Atlas Atlas.

907
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll misunderstand the word aesthetic. These are just names,

908
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: but it's a vibe. Okay, that's posy.

909
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: Okay, that's such a vibe. Okay.

910
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: So like they're like all their only thingsthe baby names,

911
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: and they that's just.

912
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 4: One video.

913
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: That's where if you're fucking with that account, which is

914
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: official baby names one one one. But like these influencers,

915
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: like people come to them because they want to know

916
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: about like what's the most unique thing? Like I come

917
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: to these accounts to find out like how how much

918
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: like how how much of a niche unique name can

919
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: I get? And like people because people don't want bum

920
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: ass names like Emily or Jessica or Matt or even

921
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: Miles it seems or they're like Miles is actually played

922
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: the fuck out and I.

923
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 4: Was like, what the fuck? Fuck?

924
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: You don't give them anyway?

925
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: So people want it not athetic though does being played

926
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: out mean it's not it's not?

927
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: Well? Aesthetic is one version and other ones are just

928
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: people who are like, we just are looking for really

929
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: unique names, so they will offer they will go to

930
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: these influencers. And here's like one package that one of

931
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: these name influencers offers a video consultation with sixteen baby

932
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: name options for ninety nine dollars, an eight name package

933
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 2: with extensive name analysis for one hundred and seventy five dollars,

934
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: and a sixteen name package with name analysis for two

935
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars. I don't know what that means.

936
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: It sounds like somebody just putting together sixteen names on

937
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: list and sending them to you and being like this

938
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: is where they rank or whatever. And I mentioned the

939
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: name Jessica shout out to two of my exes. But

940
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: because that's like, that's the name of one of the

941
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: women that runs in account And in an interview with

942
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: vox like, it's clear she hates that her name is Jessica,

943
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: like every other girl born in the eighties and early nineties.

944
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: In this argus is quote I always say to my mom,

945
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: you carried me for nine months, and you come up

946
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: with Jessica after all that, after all we've been through.

947
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: I mean, can I can I throw in a suggestion

948
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 4: for these people? Change your name you don't like it,

949
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 4: change your fucking name.

950
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the freedom.

951
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: Why is this a hustle? Why is this? How are

952
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 4: you charging people for essentially googling something for that I know?

953
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: So here's the thing, Like, apparently this is like it's

954
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: like this, this woman talked about how she has rules

955
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: when she's stinging up a baby name. And apparently, and

956
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: this isn't new. I've like I've interacted with people, friends,

957
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: who are kind of like really into this kind of stuff.

958
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: But her rules are, quote, it cannot be in the

959
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: top two hundred most popular baby names. She can't know

960
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: anyone with the name. It has to be pronounceable by

961
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: her family members with Boston accents, meaning paca and Atha

962
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 2: are at atha advat, so you just kind of sound

963
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: like Charmaine Buco and sopranos ahdi Addi anyway, and it

964
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: has to be professional sounding. And she says, people get

965
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: really angry when I said that, Well that seems a

966
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: little coded, but yes, okay.

967
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:41,959
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe that's why.

968
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: And these inflorors put out videos that are like they

969
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: have these other there's other videos of like, hey, these

970
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: are some really popular names. I just want to warn people.

971
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: They're becoming really popular and they're trending in them. And

972
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 2: you know, if this is one of your kids' names,

973
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry that I'm having to.

974
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 4: Tell you this.

975
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: Like that's the tone of the video and it'll be like, okay,

976
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: so if your name is if your baby's name is

977
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: Silas or Finn or Mave, these are names that are

978
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: becoming really popular and like I'm sorry, and like in

979
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: the comments, people are freaking the fuck out like they're

980
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: being accused of child endangerment because they're like my name,

981
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: my baby name's trending, like it's a whole it's a

982
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: whole thing. But yeah, I think the fact is, like,

983
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: as they point out in Vox, like once families became

984
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: smaller in the nineteen sixties and people weren't just like

985
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,479
Speaker 2: spitting out kids to like work the land, people began

986
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: to put more like emphasis on names that weren't just

987
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 2: like direct tributes to elder family members just to get

988
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 2: like a name out, And then that's slowly morphed into

989
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: where we are today, where the Internet has made everything

990
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: a flex or a stunt or a competition, and naming

991
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: a kid is like more akin to now a product

992
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: fucking launch than welcoming a new member into your family.

993
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: And I get it some people people think about for years,

994
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: Like I have friends that have known what they were

995
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: naming their kids since they were in elementary school.

996
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 4: Okay, but the.

997
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: Effect that social media has on us can't be understated,

998
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: Like it really there's a whole thing now where people

999
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: are because everything is available and people think about handles

1000
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: and branding now it's really wild Isabelle Munson in Real

1001
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 2: mag Growth. This is Real life mag Growth. This is

1002
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: I think it's really interesting just talking about the idea

1003
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: of what social media has done to us and like

1004
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: how we're commodifying our existences.

1005
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: Quote.

1006
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: Just as capitalism engenders the belief that our value is

1007
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: determined by our productivity, social as a business category influences

1008
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: our concept of the self, encouraging us to see self

1009
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: categorization on platforms not only as self realization, but as

1010
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: a source of capital. Our value then is based on

1011
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: effective self branding, and we're in like we're misspelling names

1012
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 2: like Kentucky and saying it's like, oh, that's Katiki my

1013
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: new daughter's name. It's really it's it's wild out there.

1014
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 2: It's wild out there.

1015
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 1: I do find baby names like inherently fascinating, like trends

1016
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: in baby names, because it's it's like such a meaningful decision,

1017
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: and it like changes so drastically these days for no

1018
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: good reason. Like I one of the things that like

1019
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: made me believe in a collective unconscious was that like,

1020
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: I had this name for fifteen years I was going

1021
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: to name my son if I ever had one, And

1022
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: then like a month before we're having our first son.

1023
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: I look it up to see like what the most

1024
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: popular names are, and it's like number Like it's become

1025
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: number one in the past like five years. Like the

1026
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: name that like for no reason, like Liam was the

1027
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: name for no fucking reason, like at all. It's just

1028
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that is what everybody is naming

1029
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: their children, all at the same time. So I think,

1030
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: like those Trents, so we we went with pivoting instead.

1031
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: We pivoted Denise and because you know, we had to

1032
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: honor the man some way, right, But it's I don't know,

1033
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: it is very interesting and it's a like decision that

1034
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 1: I feel like people take very seriously. But you also,

1035
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean, can't fuck it up too bad?

1036
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at the end of the day, like

1037
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: if you're a kid, like I've said this on the

1038
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: show before, I wish my name was DJ in the nineties.

1039
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 4: Okay, he's going to be Miles, you know what I mean.

1040
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: And then I grew out of that shit. I'm like, nah, man,

1041
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: fuck that, I'm like my fucking name and like, but

1042
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 2: there is like you know, even with naming my own son,

1043
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: it's just like you have names. But it was never

1044
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 2: It never got to a point where it's like who

1045
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: the fuck else has this name. It's more like what

1046
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: feels like it embodies the union of our families and

1047
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: whatever other things like because we're trying to honor, like

1048
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: you know, with first initials, because some people use that

1049
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: kind of name and convention ain't arrive at a name.

1050
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 2: And it wasn't as like rot as like being like

1051
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: get the fucking book, make sure it's on the top

1052
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: two hundred, or we've fucked up his entire life, or

1053
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1054
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: I just I had one name in particular that I

1055
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want the name to be like

1056
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,479
Speaker 1: the what Ryan was when I was a kid, where

1057
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: like right, there were five Ryans in like all of

1058
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: my classes, Like for.

1059
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 2: The year you were born, Jack Ryan was the eleventh

1060
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: most popular name.

1061
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, could have fooled me. It seemed like number one.

1062
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: Oh wait, that's in California. That's in California.

1063
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was in Ohio and West Virginia and New York.

1064
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: It was pretty fucking popular. It would seem Kentucky a

1065
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: lot of Ryan's, But I don't know, so that that's

1066
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: why I didn't. I didn't mind if the name was

1067
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: like somewhat popular. I just didn't want it to be

1068
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: like the number one, which Liam seems to be.

1069
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: I was really into the name Luis, the French name, yeah,

1070
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: because I liked the fucking weird like this, like how

1071
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 2: it looked with the interesting letters and like umlats of shit.

1072
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that shit looked cool, like if

1073
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: you're tagging that. Like this was where my mind was at.

1074
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 2: I was like, this would look dope if you're tagging

1075
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 2: this name because I was a tagger and I don't

1076
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: know if that that had value to me. And then

1077
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: like and it was also because there was like a

1078
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: soccer I heard name game, like a soccer game. I

1079
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that's a cool name. But they were

1080
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 2: saying like lowick and I was like, okay, I ca

1081
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: fuck with that. And then after a while, I pretty

1082
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: much I was like, that's like when it come to

1083
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: naming my own kidd, like this doesn't really match at all.

1084
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: So I'm happy with his name. We're happy with his name.

1085
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 2: Method man great. Yeah, yeah it's adult name.

1086
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. I don't like it sounds fascinating

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Speaker 4: listening to you guys speak. I mean, I don't have kids,

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00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 4: so I have not had to go through that. Do

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Speaker 4: you have, n I'm temperaris that have and you've witnessed

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00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 4: something like that. Yeah, but I've never witnessed people get

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00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 4: so obsessed or down this rabbit hole, or even like

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Speaker 4: even conceiving of paying people to come up with a

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00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 4: baby name. Yeah, but I do remember, like I think

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00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 4: everyone goes through this. I used to hate my name

1095
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 4: growing up, so I would constantly try to change it.

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Speaker 4: So I'd introduce myself with different names that I thought

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00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 4: were cool for one reason or another too, people like

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Speaker 4: in a club or when I met new people, I'd

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Speaker 4: be like, Hi, my name's Agnes and I don't know why,

1100
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 4: but people like it's not yeah yeah.

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00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: Like stuff like that.

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00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 4: I was ready into, like French new wave cinema. It's like, yeah,

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00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 4: you got the.

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00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: Varna do right now?

1105
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 4: You know, give me give me Ana's Varda right now?

1106
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 4: Oh thank you. Although I actually met her, she's she

1107
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: was lovely and super tiny and the night one of

1108
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 4: the nicest filmmakers I ever met. But like, there was

1109
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 4: this weird thing where your name becomes it's a match

1110
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 4: of a personality, even with a baby or like an

1111
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 4: energy because people clocked me immediately. They were like, no,

1112
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Speaker 4: you're not such a name. No, wy are you really? Yeah,

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00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 4: there did not believe me. I was like, Hi, nice

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00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 4: to meet you. I'm Agnes. I don't know. I was

1115
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 4: trying out names whenever.

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Speaker 1: No, you're never. I was saying Agnes, but you are

1117
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: serving Anna. I'm sorry, you got big energy.

1118
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: I'm not a lie.

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00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's funny.

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Speaker 2: When I would get in trouble with old white people

1121
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: who didn't know me, I would always tell them my

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00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: name was Orlando. That was my that was my fake name.

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00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: They're like, what's your name? Who are your parents? I

1124
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: go I'm Orlando and they're like, well, get out of here, Orlando.

1125
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, fuck you. And I was talking about

1126
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: because of Orlando El Duque the picture for the Yankees.

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00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: I thought you were just trying to subliminately remind them

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Speaker 1: of Disney World, their favorite place on Earth.

1129
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: Your favorite place in Florida, Orlando.

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00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 4: Oh it wasn't a Virginia Wolf novel. It wasn't that,

1131
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 4: but you were referencing.

1132
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: No, no, unfortunately not I was not.

1133
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: El Duques pictures.

1134
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: But it is like a thing too, or like like

1135
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, you look at how people like in America,

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00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: especially like on Instagram, the way people hard launch a baby.

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00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 6: There's like fucking all this shit like they've they got

1138
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 6: banners made, fucking merch, Like people are really conscious of

1139
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 6: like how shit is gonna look on like that announcement post.

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00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just kind of see how it's just

1141
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: kind of like trickling in where people can't even like

1142
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: trust their own own sense of like what they feel

1143
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: to name their own child. That it's now being like,

1144
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: well I don't trust myself to know what I should

1145
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: name my child. I'm going to surrender it to the algorithm.

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00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, essentially like yo.

1147
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: Come on now, relax a little bit. Shout out method man,

1148
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Speaker 2: I love.

1149
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: Shut out method man, young, method man.

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00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: Moving method method baby. Right now, we're gonna get there. Yeah,

1151
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 3: that is a that is a terrifying feeling. But like

1152
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: when we thought we were having a girl with our

1153
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: second we just were like we vibed it out.

1154
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: We were like, this is a girl, we have our

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00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: girl name where we're good and it was a boy

1156
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: and we were like forty eight hours we were like

1157
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: what do we do here? Oh no, we just like

1158
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't even remember how we came up with a name.

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00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 4: It's wow.

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00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: Oh so you really got caught like not doing your

1161
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: homework for the test.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well I also didn't want to, like I didn't want

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00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: to like decide based on a fucking blog or whatever.

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00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Want to decide based on what. Like one of my

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01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: friends randomly texted back to me when the one person

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01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: who responded to me at like three am, when I

1169
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: was like, look, man, I'm in a bad way, Like

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Speaker 1: what do you think of this one? They're like, yeah,

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01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: it sounds good?

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Speaker 4: Was all right?

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01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Also my sister, my sister, great guide. All right, Anna. Yes,

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01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: it's been such a pleasure having you.

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01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been wonderful. Guys, thank you so much.

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01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

1178
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 4: So you can find me online on Twitter and Instagram

1179
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 4: at annabtamented you compare to the book anywhere you can

1180
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 4: buy books.

1181
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: And you can.

1182
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 4: Listen to me talk about horror movies over on the

1183
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 4: Final Girls podcast.

1184
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 2: It's a classic. Yeah, and are you talking? You're doing

1185
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 2: like succession wrap ups too, aren't you a little recaps?

1186
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 4: Oh god?

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01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1188
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm also doing the successionistis with My Friend Mike,

1189
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 4: which recaps the current season of Succession. Yeah, that comes

1190
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 4: out every Tuesday morning. Got it? Yeah?

1191
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: How are you liking the season?

1192
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 4: I'm mixed on it. May I'm like some episodes old timer,

1193
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 4: episode Banger, just a stone called perfect hour of television,

1194
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 4: and others, I'm like, I'm very confused. How is this

1195
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 4: this up and down, up and down kind of roller coaster?

1196
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 4: But I almost like I want to reserve judgment until

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01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 4: to see the whole thing, because the whole thing always

1198
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 4: like it needs to fit together, and then you get

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01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 4: why certain episodes didn't quite work in isolation. So I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm in with it until the end. Like season

1201
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 4: two of Succession is probably a perfect season of television,

1202
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 4: and I love it. I'll watch every episode like three

1203
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 4: or four times. Yeah.

1204
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: Is that is that the season where Greg takes the stand?

1205
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: Greg takes the stand? It is a great moment of television.

1206
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: Is that that season that?

1207
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's with the cruises, with the cruises, Yeah.

1208
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,959
Speaker 4: It's when they go to It's with the iconic line

1209
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 4: of where Tom sent Greg sixty seven emails saying you

1210
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 4: need to break some you need to break some gregs

1211
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 4: to make a tomlet or you can't make a tomlat

1212
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 4: without breaking some gregs. Oh man, if it is to

1213
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 4: be said, so, it be five episode that Greg to

1214
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 4: like disgusting Brothers, Greg.

1215
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: Disgusting Brothers. Greg.

1216
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 4: He's losing points, man, I'm.

1217
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: Not He's like trying, He's trying something on.

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01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 4: He's right, right right. It doesn't fit him though. Oh yeah, gross, dude,

1219
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 4: it's not such a natural vibe. Yeah.

1220
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: Well, if it is to be said, so, I.

1221
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: Thought episode three and four of the season were some

1222
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: of the best ever. But yeah, like, other than that,

1223
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: it's been kind of.

1224
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: Which which the I mean without spiling the big one,

1225
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 2: the big the family event one I was there were

1226
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: some times like, well, y'all are also like it was

1227
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: well directed, well performed. I was like, okay, y'all making

1228
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: me feel some shit too when I thought y'all didn't

1229
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: feel shit, which was I think why the episode hit

1230
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: so hard?

1231
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, drama Tallurgically it made sense to quote Jeremy Strum,

1232
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: That's what he said in the making up documentary that

1233
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: immediately followed it. That is the only making of documentary

1234
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: that I like watch. Every time I watched the episode,

1235
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, we're going to do this again.

1236
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: I love that is closed this season are based on

1237
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: Elon Musk's looks, are they?

1238
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1239
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 2: I was reading something that there was like a huge

1240
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 2: thing that like, yeah, we're taking a lot of inspiration

1241
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: from Elon Musk for Kendall's outfit.

1242
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 4: Also, there's I don't know if they're going to do

1243
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 4: the same thing. I'm sure they will in the States,

1244
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 4: but there's going to be a London screening of the

1245
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 4: finale and by the time it airs here it's like

1246
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 4: two am. So there's a cinema in London that will

1247
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 4: have the like a live stream of the show at

1248
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 4: two am screening in like a blake cinema, And I

1249
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 4: swear to god, if I don't get a fucking ticket

1250
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,439
Speaker 4: for that event, I'm gonna put cinema down.

1251
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: All Right, you'all heard it. Alleged tickets, it said, so

1252
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: it be, So it is? So it is? Is there

1253
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: a work of media that you've been enjoying in Oh god.

1254
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 4: Well, I've honestly been thinking about this tweet for about

1255
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 4: a week. It's not the slutty Little Knees one. It's

1256
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 4: another one. Hold on a second, let me pull it up.

1257
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 4: So I saw the sweet like a couple a week

1258
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 4: or so ago by this woman who was like, novels

1259
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 4: are so great, They're just like I made up a

1260
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 4: little weirdo. Oh no. Now he's in trouble and I'm

1261
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 4: working on a on a piece of fiction. Now I'm like, oh, ship,

1262
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 4: that's all it is. I just have to make up

1263
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 4: this little stick figuring and put it in some trouble.

1264
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Speaker 1: That's great. Miles, Where can people find you as their

1265
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: working media you've been enjoying?

1266
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, find me on Twitter and Instagram, another at based

1267
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: places at Miles of Gray. Also check Jackie and I

1268
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: out on the latest episode of Miles and jack Got Mad.

1269
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 4: Matt Lucy, all the.

1270
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: NBA hosts Delicious right now shout out Joelle and b

1271
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: for securing that MVPVP MB anyway MBDP And also, yeah,

1272
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: find me and Sophia Alexandra on our ninety Day Fiance

1273
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: podcast for twenty Day Fiance where we smoke more weed

1274
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: than Willie Nelson ever did in his lifetime and talk

1275
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: about you know, immigration based reality romance shows. Now some

1276
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: tweets I like because the writer's strike is on and

1277
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: fucking popping right now. I just want to shout out

1278
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: some of the people who have been picketing and also

1279
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: some of their posting some of their signs, which is

1280
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: great because there's nothing wittier than writers who have a

1281
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: blank slate for their picket signs. Johnny Sun tweeted, I'll

1282
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: just I'll just show you some of these. He said, right,

1283
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: it's like they have the normal strike, strike or picket

1284
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: sign that says writers on strike, and he wrote, sure,

1285
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 2: I support a, I A all of our terms being

1286
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: met I in a fair and timely manner, because that's

1287
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 2: a huge contention point of contention right now in negotiations

1288
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: where they're like, I don't know, like, hey, a you

1289
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 2: guys worried And then at Katie Delaney tweeted her sign,

1290
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 2: which was a picture of Tim Robinson from I Think

1291
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: You Should Leave, and it says.

1292
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 4: You don't want a negotiate a deal with a w

1293
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 4: G A you sure about that? Sure about that? That's

1294
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 4: not what you want?

1295
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,959
Speaker 2: So I love any references to that show. But anyway, yeah,

1296
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: that's coming back soon, right end of May. Yeah, end

1297
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 2: of the month, all right, tweet.

1298
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying Colin Crawford finally an entire board of Smorgas,

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Speaker 1: which I think it's Borg of Smorgas, but I got

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Speaker 1: the meaning and I liked it. And that is the

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Speaker 1: text that I randomly scrolled to, or the tweet I

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Speaker 1: randomly scrolled to. So that's my to that. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brian. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at daily Zeikeist. We're at the

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Speaker 1: Daily Zeikeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page

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Speaker 1: and a website Daily zeikeast dot com where we post

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Speaker 1: our episodes in our foot notes or link off to

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Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode.

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Speaker 4: Well, it is a song that.

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Speaker 1: We think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, what song do

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Speaker 1: you think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 2: So in the past, we've I remember gone out on

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Speaker 2: the song by a song by the group seventy nine

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Speaker 2: point five. The track then was this track called Sisters

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Speaker 2: Unarmed and it's dope like they're very like they're they're

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Speaker 2: multi genre type artists. Like it's like part disco, part

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Speaker 2: funky jazz part like it's also like kind of ESG.

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Speaker 2: They have they have just many vibes. But they have

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Speaker 2: a new track out and it's actually so I was

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Speaker 2: listening to the CACRW, the local radio station, and they

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Speaker 2: were talking about this song that just came out, and

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Speaker 2: they're like, and the reference is actually a soprano's reference

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Speaker 2: to like. The new track name is called long Term Parking,

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Speaker 2: which is an episode, very very seminal episode of the Sopranos,

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Speaker 2: or something happens, but the person on the air just

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Speaker 2: fucking goes in and just says what happened in the episode.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know why I felt so INSTI I'm like,

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Speaker 2: don't spoil that for people who didn't see that nineteen

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Speaker 2: years ago. The fuck is wrong with you. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: this track is called Long Term Parking and it's by

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Speaker 2: none other than seventy nine point five, So check it out.

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Speaker 2: It's a really dope track.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we link off to that in the footnotes.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us this morning, back this

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Speaker 1: afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: yo then by bye.