WEBVTT - 2022 NFL Draft Preview - Offensive Line with Joe Marino 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.360 To us byers touch style by Waddle snucked into the 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.440 end zone of Miami Boy tight froll tip window. They 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:11.760 had to get that touchdown on that play, they get it. 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:19.439 What ends up? Dolphins? And Welcome to the Drivetime Podcast, 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:23.480 part of the Miami Dolphins podcast network, covering your team, 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:27.400 your Miami Dolphins. How's it going everybody? I am your host, 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.200 Travis Flingfield And on today's show, feeling like I got 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:33.280 hit by a bus. We're gonna soldier on because the 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.960 draft preview series begins today. Joe Marino of the Draft 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.520 Network is going to join us talk about the offensive 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.040 line class this year where the Dolphins might be able 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.839 to find some gems with those late Day two and 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.000 also Day three picks. Will also assess the Torn Armstead 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.920 and Connor Williams additions here on this offensive line draft 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.600 preview edition of the Drivetime Podcast from somewhere in South Florida. 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:03.480 This is you guessed it, the Drivetime Podcast Before we 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.280 get cranking here with Joe Marino of the Draft Network 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:11.120 talking all things NFL Draft across the offensive line. A 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.319 couple of news items since we last spoke. Nick Needham, 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:18.039 Dolphins cornerback, signed his second round tender. We discuss what 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.720 that means on a couple of previous podcast. The Dolphins 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.160 also have a contract extension with xaviing Howard and he'll 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.400 be here for the foreseeable future. As this Dolphins defense 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:31.160 continues to stay intact and that defensive backfield continues to 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:34.600 look as good on paper as there is in the 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.760 National Football League. We're gonna go ahead and save the 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.319 breakdowns for those two guys in the secondary for Brett 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.800 Coleman of the Film Room on YouTube. He'll do our 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.839 defensive backs draft preview. Will save that for him. Will 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.920 also save the DeVante Parker trade and the Dolphins receiver 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:53.280 kind of recap of the receiver room this offseason. For 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:57.280 Friday's episode, which is E. J. Snyder of the Bootleg Podcast, 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.520 plenty of really knowledgeable draft guests come your way here 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.760 on Drivetime And with that, let's go ahead and kick 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.720 off today's episode with offensive line Guru draft guru Joe 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.600 Marino and joining me now on the Drivetime podcast. He's 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.760 the host of the Lockdown Bills podcast. We're walking to 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.920 hold that against him. He works at the Draft Network 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:16.640 and if you want to hear him talk draft with 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.800 his second favorite Dolphins fan, Kyle Crabs. That's a bit 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.280 of a job there. Check out the Draft Dudes podcast. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:27.160 Joe Marino, Joe, what's happening, Buddy, how's life Travis? Thanks 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.920 for having me on. Everything is good here and UM 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:35.480 excited to talk with you about an exciting up and 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.880 coming football team here in the Miami Dolphins. I know 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.320 I might be hard for you to say, you know, 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.440 being a Bills guy, but we we feel pretty excited 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.800 about where things have gone this offseason. And I do 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.600 want to get into the draft here with you and 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.560 particularly the offensive line as we kick off our draft 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.080 series here on the Drivetime podcast. But I wanted to 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:52.960 ask you a little bit of kind of some preambles 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:57.359 about this offseason, particularly on the Dolphins offensive line. But first, 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.960 you know, Joe, you do this every day for a living. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.799 I was around Kyle and Indie and I got a 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.560 chance to see you for a little bit of the combine, 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.200 but spent more time with Kyle and just kind of 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.200 I love picking your guys brain about the whole job 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.600 that you do in the process. And so what I'm 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.239 trying to get at is you guys have so much 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.640 knowledge across not just you know, one fan base or 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.200 one organization the entire league, and so I was curious 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.519 about how the Dolphins have kind of approached this this offseason, 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.440 and then earlier this week we saw the Saints and 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.600 Eagles construct a big trade that basically put the Eagles 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.639 resources down the line. What do you think about that 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.160 with how this draft stacks up, I guess compared to 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.280 next year's draft, and teams kind of taken an approach 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.880 of let's get our resources to next year a post 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.560 of this year in the draft. It's a great question, 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:45.040 and I honestly think it goes back to more about 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.600 where the teams are in their life cycles and where 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.760 they are as an organization in terms of their regime, 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:56.000 and less to do with the draft class. Because Mike 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.720 critiques for this draft class are more so that we 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.960 don't have quarterback talent at the top of the draft, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.560 then me thinking that this isn't a good overall draft class. 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:10.040 I think there's really good talent to be had throughout 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.520 the first four rounds of the entire draft, and so 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.640 I think the trades that we've seen are more rooted 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.880 in the context of those individual teams. Then it is 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.960 an indictment on what this entire draft class does and 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.520 does not offer. And so you think about the Miami 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.600 Dolphins in particular. This team has made a lot of 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.719 draft picks over the last two three years, and so 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.760 for them, it was probably a really good opportunity to 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.080 maybe push a little bit of that into next season, 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:50.000 but also go out and add some proven veteran talent 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:54.200 like a Tyreek Hill to this offense to maximize your 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.359 opportunity to get something out of those draft picks. And 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.200 so I just think it goes back to a team 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:02.839 by team basis more than it does. Okay, what is 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.680 this draft class offer compared to future years? Because you know, 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:08.839 we talked about this a lot. I'm not sure that 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:13.120 the NFL looks at future draft classes and considers any 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.719 other position but quarterbacks. I don't think you're gonna sit 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.560 here and say, well, we really like this running back, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.080 but we like the running backs more that are coming 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.200 out next year. I think that is only a quarterback 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.560 driven factor, and so I just think it comes back 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.560 to the teams and where they are in their life cycle. Yeah, 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.080 that's that's really interesting because so much can change in 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.880 a year, right, and it's gotten tenfold to that point 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.120 over the last couple of years in the National Football League. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.360 I had a mail bad question earlier this week in 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.080 the podcast about, you know, thinking about kicking down the 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.479 road for for certain positions or needs. I said, don't 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.560 draft for need, because your needs are gonna change every 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.080 single year, and that maybe seems to be a more 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.920 focused approach. As far as what you just said now, 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.080 you talked about the veteran additions to the offense. I 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.920 want to talk about both toront Orestead and Connor Williams 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.719 here in just a second. But first I want to 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.080 go back to the incumbents you mentioned. You know, the 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.799 Dolphins had eleven top one picks the last two years, 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.600 zero this year, and they'll have I think five more. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.000 It's it's pretty crazy how they've how they've gotten these 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.479 resources in house and spent them and use them. But 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.200 with Austin Jackson, Leah Meikenberg, Michael Dieter and Robert Hunt 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.240 four highly drafted players over the last three years, how 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.400 do you think this new potential system, new coaching staff, 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.920 Mike McDaniels, you know, run heavy oriented system. How can 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.200 it benefit those guys that have been drafted recently? Here 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.240 at Miami Dolphins, Well, I think it gives them a 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.320 great opportunity for them to unlock their potential. And you 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:36.279 mentioned three players there in particular in Michael Dieter, Robert Hunt, 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.640 and Leam Eikenberg that I liked a ton coming out 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.160 of college and had pretty high grades on all three 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.200 of them, and I I viewed them as at least 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:50.040 average NFL starting caliber players. And you think about the 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.839 factors that have existed in Miami, whether it's been a 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.160 lot of shifts in coaching and scheme and those types 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.160 of things that that doesn't allow these offensive lineman their 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:03.120 best opportunity to develop. And I think given the pedigree 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.880 that exists with Mike McDaniel running the football, how many 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.120 offensive lineman you've seen kind of come up in that 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.040 Shanahan scheme that is heavily you're gonna be influenced in 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.239 what we see like McDaniel do with the Miami Dolphins. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.160 And I think it's gonna give those players a real 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.560 opportunity to take a step and deliver on some of 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.720 the promise that existed when these guys were drafted. And 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:28.200 so I get excited for those players under this new 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:33.080 circumstance totally different when it comes to coaching the players 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.840 around them the scheme, and I think it's gonna give 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:37.920 them a real chance to take a step. And you know, 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.000 I don't think we talk about that enough. Whenever we 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:44.160 consider why teams may improve, we talk about what's new, 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.040 what do they bring in? Right, A lot of that 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.880 conversation should go back to the development of the players 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.600 that you already have. And you know, just as much 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.680 as adding a player like a Tyreek Hill and adding 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.440 in a Tehran Armstead and the Connor Williams is going 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.160 to help the Miami Dolphins get better, so is those 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.480 young players taking a step. And I think we can 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.640 reasonably look at where they've been and where they are 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.360 now and think that there's a really good environment in 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.560 place for them to take a step and really elevate 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.440 their play and in turn elevate the team. Joe, my 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.400 audience is gonna think that was a coached up answer, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.480 because I probably do two or three podcasts a year 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.160 where I talk about the best way to improve your 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.600 football team is with the incumbent growth that you have. 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.880 So I love hearing you mentioned that, And you know 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.239 I gave you four guys right there. The Dolphins added 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.720 two more this offseason via free agency, and two really 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.640 good veteran players. And I know you know about to 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.160 Ron Armstead. I know you know about Connor Williams, but 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.280 you know the other guys you mentioned could possibly compete 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.000 for the rest of the jobs there, and that gives 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.839 you more depth and more flexibility, obviously, but you talk 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.240 about the coaching helping young players, and obviously that goes 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.280 a long way. But what about to Ron Armstead? What 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:49.839 what exactly did the Dolphins getting him not just as 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.160 a player, but as a person that can come in 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.280 and make everybody in the offensive line room better. I 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:59.040 think that's been my favorite part of this free agency period, 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.800 and really every free agent period is where suddenly you're 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.600 learning about players a little bit more than you would 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.880 have in the past because they're gonna be changing teams 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.120 and because of that, you have to kind of do 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.800 some research and learn more about players. And I've always 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.200 known that Toronto Armstead is a terrific left tackle and 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.040 you know, one of the better left tackles in the 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.000 entire NFL. What I didn't know and what I've learned 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.319 over the last few months and learning about the free 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.360 agent classes, just how much of a of a team 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.280 centric player he is, and you know, the leadership and 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.960 just how he connects with teammates and how important football 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.840 is to him. I've I've really gained a big time 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:39.520 appreciation for those intangibles that come with Terron Armstead. Everybody 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:41.640 knows he's gonna come in and be a top tier 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.400 left tackle for the Miami Dolphins. I don't think we're 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:49.120 giving enough consideration and talking enough about the person that 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.120 they brought in. And when you're talking about a new 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.400 coaching staff, you know a big part of that is 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.640 being able to have veterans on your team that can 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.160 connect the message of the coaching staff to the locker room. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.880 And when you introduce a guy like tarn Emstead, you 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.160 know that that's going to be a great ambassador for 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.640 this coaching staff to really help set the standard and 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.280 connect that messaging from the coaching staff in the locker room. 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:15.359 And so again, a phenomenal player but also a phenomenal 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.960 person to come in and help get this Miami Dolphins 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.360 team going based on what he's proven in the past 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.040 and just how he's wired in terms of that football 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:25.720 character and how much he loves it, and how much 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.640 of a leader he is. I get the sense that 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.920 he might have a coaching career after his playing career 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.240 if he wants it. I mean, you watch those O 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.040 line Mastermind videos. Man, he's he's one hell of a 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:35.800 teacher and he really can explain the way he does 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.520 things in a really positive way. It's fun to watch those. 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.199 And I got a chance to meet him obviously, and 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.800 kind of felt that to being up close and personal 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.120 with him, and you know, you mentioned your favorite, you know, 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.880 move of the offseason or favorite part of the off season. 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.559 It kind of felt like Armstead got maybe maybe a 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.920 little bit buried because the Tyreek Hill trade happened the 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.079 next day. But to me, that's that's one of the 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.080 biggest moves Dolphins have made in quite a while to 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.640 get some some surety at that left tackle position. But 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.880 before or that, they also brought someone into played left 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.960 guard for Dallas. We'll see where he winds up on 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.520 this Dolphins offensive line. But Connor Williams, I know that 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.880 he was, you know, in the draft cycle four years ago, 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.319 so right in your wheelhouse. How does his college profile 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.240 and then where he's kind of growing through four years 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.280 matchup or stack up, I should say for you, Joe, Yeah, 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.320 it's a big fan of Connor Williams coming out, and 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.720 I always kind of thought, you know, he's college left tackle. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.960 I thought he'd probably be a better guard in the NFL. 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.800 And that's exactly what has come together. And I think 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:31.640 Miami's kind of the beneficiaries of Dallas wanting to reset 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.120 their salary cap situation a little bit, and so Connor 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:38.160 Williams is exposed to the open market. The Dolphins pounds 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.720 and they get themselves a really good scheme fit. Right, 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.439 They like they're gonna like it's it's gonna be a 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.840 big shift here with the style of offense that they 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.680 run and in a wide zone rushing attack, and you 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.400 know that lateral mobility and range that a guy like 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.200 Connor Williams can give you is obviously going to be 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.320 important for widening rushing lanes and working laterally and creating 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.400 space in the run game. But when you want to 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.600 get this guy pulling and getting out in space, I mean, 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.040 that's something that he's gonna be able to do at 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.840 a higher level because he's so athletic and has that range, 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.559 which all by the way, shows up as a pass blocker. 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.320 And so you kind of go into this offseason and 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.960 everyone's talking, all right, what's Miami gonna do to improve 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.880 this offensive line? And I thought they got two rock 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.400 solid veterans on great contracts and to Ron Armstead and 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:23.040 Connor Williams to jump start this this offense and um 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.360 allow them to consider different combinations with some of the 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.440 other young talent and set everyone up. Set everyone up 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.600 here to succeed and play their best football. No. I 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.319 love that point about having some balance there with a 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.800 vectoran leadership and younger guys and kind of mixing it 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.760 all together then hopefully get the rights to there at 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.360 the end of the day. So let's go ahead and 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.040 take our first break here. Joe will come back on 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.200 the other side, and we'll get into this draft class 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.280 here on the offensive line. Joe Marino my guest today 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.880 on the Drivetime Podcast, brought to you by Auto Nation, 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.440 Segment number two, the B block as we call it 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.400 here on the Drivetime Podcast, your host Travis Wingfield. I 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.000 am joined today by Joe Marino of the Draft Network 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.560 Draft Dudes podcast. Locked on Bill. He's everywhere and Joe, 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.760 real quick, the book you just authored is it out yet, 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.480 and what is that exactly? It's coming out. It's gonna 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.559 start shipping in August, but it is. It's called Go Bills, 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.040 and it's basically cover to cover the history of the 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.400 Buffalo Bills, where I tell the story of every single 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.720 season and um, you know, go nineteen sixty all the 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.320 way through one and tell the story of each season. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.199 And so yeah, it's it's been a really fun project 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.000 and it and it comes out later this year. I'm 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:30.760 looking forward to. Man, even though not a Bills fan, 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.120 I love reading my buddies work and it's I just 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.000 saw that and was so happy You've got the opportunity 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:36.640 to do it. And we talked about it at the 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:38.560 combine a little bit. It's just a really cool project. 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:39.960 You got your hands on there. And I'm sure that 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.480 the Bills Bills mafia as it was going to be 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.760 thrilled that you were behind that project. So we got 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.760 you on here, Joe talk some offensive line prospects and 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.840 again it's it's a different year for us as last 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.320 as long as I've been in this job, we've always 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.640 had a billion draft picks. Not the case this year. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.720 But I think Dolphins fans are pretty happy with the 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.520 reason why we don't have those draft picks. But I 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.040 wanted to ask this as kind of a theme to 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.480 all these interviews I do in the draft run up here. 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.520 I'm curious, what's your film watching processes, like, Joe, because 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:06.800 the more I ask people about it, the more fascinating 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:08.640 I am by it. Because you know, like I know 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.000 you guys, old buddy Ben sol I would like hammered 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.679 like free packages of pepperoni every week or every time 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.640 we sat down and watched film. But what does your 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.719 film watching process look like? Well, it's the first thing 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.320 I do every day, and and I I attack every 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.280 single day, and I start with the most important thing 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:24.960 that I do, and I think the most important thing 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.520 that I do when it's it's that period of time 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.560 where I'm evaluating players to start with film. And so 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.160 I wake up with a fresh mind, and I give 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.360 myself a cup of hot green tea and we are 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:41.160 we are at the at the desk here by five am, 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.360 grind and tape to start every single day. And so 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.400 I think that's the first thing that I would say 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.440 is I think it's an essential part of my process, 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.000 and I prioritize the most important thing that I do 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:53.440 every day. First, and so when it is evaluation season 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.640 number one, I start with it, and it's it's it's 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.600 attacked with a fresh mind, and I just try to, 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.120 you know, clear my mind, get rid of any preconceived notions. 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.680 I don't try to create prospects based on what I've 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.440 heard or what I've read, or what other people are 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:10.680 saying about these players. I empty. I start with an 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.560 empty slate and get to know the players and let 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.600 them speak to me. I think that's what's most important, 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.840 is don't create a prospect. What does the tape tell you? 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.760 Take notes turning into a report. And that's kind of 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.120 a general overview of my process. And then obviously I 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.400 try to go through and you know, there's certain matchups 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.320 that I want to see, right if I look at 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.960 the the games that they played and say, oh, they 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.400 went up against this player, this style of of offense 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.160 or defense, and from there I set the watch list. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.800 But um, it's it's about matchups, a clear mind and 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.440 starting my day with it. That's really that's really informative 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.160 and really interesting. And I always blown away by the 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.280 early morning folks because I'm not one of those I'm 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.080 more likely to watch at two AM than I am 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.040 at you know, five am, and it's it's not waking 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.440 up at two am. It's still being awake at two am, 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.120 so especially you know, you know, you and I think 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.800 we both have daughters in a similar age range too, 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.480 so being newer fathers as well, kind of he's into that. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.640 So very fascinating, Joe, But um, you know, I was. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.520 I saw this question on a The Bootleg podcast with 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.520 Brett Coleman and E. J. Snyder, and I wanted to 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:08.720 put it to you because I thought it was a 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.720 great way to get into this kind of where the 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.080 Dolphins kick off their draft at pick one oh two 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.920 for the fans that wanted a you know, whether it's 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:19.120 a Trevor Penning or a Tyler lender Bomb or Zion Johnson, 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.680 one of those first round type of prospects, who's a 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.240 guy at either the inside or the outside, you know, 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.560 interior or tackle positions. Do you think could kind of 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.360 fit some of the molds of those types of top 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.560 level players, Like if you can't get turor Pinning, you 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.120 can possibly get this guy in round number three. Do 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.520 you have those kind of satellite later round picks that 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.480 you'd like in that range of the Miami Dolphins. Oh man, 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:42.920 I've got a lot of football players that I like 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.720 in that range. Um, I'd like to start with Cold 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:50.160 Strange A he played left guard at Chattanooga, played some 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.600 center at the Senior Bowl. He is so fun to watch. 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.560 And when you think you know Miami Dolphins wide zone 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:02.920 lateral mobility, guys that and win in space, I really 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.720 like how Cold Strange fits that. And you know, you 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.679 wonder about the level of competition with a guy like 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.560 Cole Strange. Watching play against Kentucky, he was absolutely a 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.760 dominant football player against SEC competition. And I love his temperament, 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.560 the way he gets after people, the way he takes 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.800 advantage of angles, uh, the way he gets into space 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.640 and polls. I think he's a really rock solid run blocker. 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.600 And um, you know he's got good overall hand usage 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.359 as a a pass blocker. And so when you're talking 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.119 like mid round developmental type player, maybe an eventual starter, 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.800 you know, that's that's a name that definitely pops for me, 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.639 that profiles is more of an interior offensive lineman on 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.880 the on the tackle side of things. Let me introduce 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.720 the name here to you. Matt while let's go out 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:50.199 of North Dakota. He was a Senior Bowl guy, and 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:51.800 I was excited to see him at the Senior Bowl 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.080 because I watched this tape at North Dakota at North 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.919 Dakota State North Dakota, and you know, he's obviously dominating 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.160 and you're wondering, Okay, well what does this guy look 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.400 like against the best competition? And I thought he answered 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.960 that question at the Senior Bowl. And he's got some 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.240 nasty to him, He's got some good length, and he's 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.960 got that lateral mobility and overall range that I think, 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:12.960 you know, the Miami Dolphins are gonna cove it. And 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.399 so as a guy that you know a couple of 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.000 guys that come from the small schools with length, lateral mobility, 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:20.760 good block temperament, those are a couple of my favorite 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.560 you know you're talking right about that pick one range, 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.199 give or take a few on either side, and and 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.080 those are my favorite. That's probably my favorite into your 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:31.400 offensive lineman and my favorite offensive tackle that I think 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.119 that Dolphins could target in that range. I'm glad you 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.160 cleared up the Matt will Let's ki what well, let's 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.200 go college, because in my senior Bowl Prep podcast. I 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:40.920 hadn't heard of him yet, and I hadn't started working 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:42.920 him up yet, and I think I said that, oh Man, 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.720 North Dakota State, the offense or offensive tackled you produces 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.520 another one here, But you know that's not correct obviously, 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.440 So I'm glad you cleared that up. And then also 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.680 on the interior, Cole Strange I've had now Jordan Reed, 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.439