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Speaker 2: What's the point of this? Why are they doing this?

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Speaker 1: We've seen the left really go after our kids, encouraging

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Speaker 1: also attacking parental rights. But California it's more pronounced. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Left is doing in California is what they want.

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Speaker 2: To do to the rest of the country.

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Speaker 1: So it's important to pay attention, particularly when you have

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Speaker 1: someone like Gavin Newsom who clearly wants to run for president.

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Speaker 2: One day. We're going to talk to a guy named

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Speaker 2: Greg Burt.

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Speaker 1: He's the vice president of the California Family Council. He's

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Speaker 1: been tracking legislation from the state capital of Sacramento, really

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Speaker 1: covering a lot of these issues, the assault.

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Speaker 2: On parental rights, this attack on kids.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk to him about what's happening

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Speaker 1: in California, what could happen in the rest of the country,

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Speaker 1: and why you should care. Stay tuned for Greg Burt,

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Speaker 1: vice president of the California Family Council, Greg.

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Speaker 2: It's so great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 1: I saw a quote that you had made about what

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Speaker 1: we're about to discuss in a Fox News article, and

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Speaker 2: So appreciate you making the time.

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Speaker 1: California now has a law where stores with more than

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Speaker 1: five hundred employees will be fine for not having a gender.

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Speaker 2: Neutral toy section. Tell us about what is this?

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Speaker 1: You know, go through this with us, take us through it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. This idea came up back in twenty twenty from

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Speaker 3: Instead of trying to persuade the girl to you know,

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Speaker 3: And so the first bill that was introduced actually was

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Speaker 3: But that bill didn't go anywhere. So he came back

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Speaker 1: Well, and so this has happened. I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: It is a philosophy that really is trying to erase

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Speaker 3: And they're not just like trying to persuade you anymore.

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Speaker 1: Believing that an eight year old would concoct this on

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Speaker 1: And this is you know, deeper than that than you know,

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Speaker 3: in mass And that's what that's why I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: if you heard of a girl name of Chloe Cole she.

437
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Speaker 2: Was, Yes, I've interviewed her on the show.

438
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so she's been She lives, you know, a couple

439
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Speaker 3: hours from the Sacramento Capital, and she came and testified

440
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Speaker 3: against some of these bills. You know her story. But

441
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Speaker 3: now she's suing Kaiser, right, And I think it's these

442
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Speaker 3: lawsuits that hopefully will really help because these kids didn't

443
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Speaker 3: know what they were consenting to, and they were only

444
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Speaker 3: giving one option to treat their gender dysphoria, right, and

445
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Speaker 3: then then the option you know, caused them harm, right,

446
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Speaker 3: it didn't work. And you know, how can I how

447
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Speaker 3: can a minor uh consent to this? And how can

448
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Speaker 3: a parent be told if you don't do it, you know,

449
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Speaker 3: you'll be suicide. Think in her case, she wasn't suicidal

450
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Speaker 3: until she, you know, had her double misseectomy.

451
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Speaker 1: I asked her about you harbor any anger at your

452
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Speaker 1: parents or you know what, how do you feel about that?

453
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Speaker 2: And and she had told me that, you know.

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Speaker 1: No, because her parents were so bullied as well as

455
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Speaker 1: she was, and thinking into thinking that this was the solution,

456
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Speaker 1: that this you know, they were doing it with her

457
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Speaker 1: best intention. And so, you know, oftentimes we wonder, you know,

458
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Speaker 1: how a parent could go along with that. But as

459
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Speaker 1: we're discussing, there's this societal pressure. There's there's pressure from

460
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Speaker 1: you know, doctors and from therapists and what have you,

461
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Speaker 1: you know, booling the parent into thinking that, you know,

462
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Speaker 1: my kid's going to commit suicide. If I don't go

463
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Speaker 1: along with this, I'm a bad parent if I don't

464
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Speaker 1: go along.

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Speaker 2: With this, you know.

466
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Speaker 1: And and so you know, I think that sometimes that

467
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Speaker 1: doesn't get discussed as much either about what some of

468
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Speaker 1: these parents are being put through and being manipulated as

469
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Speaker 1: well into thinking that this isn't their child's best interest

470
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Speaker 1: when it's it's clearly not, as we've discussed with Chloe.

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Speaker 3: Cole well, and not only that, but if you don't

472
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Speaker 3: affirm your child we could take custody. You could lose

473
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Speaker 3: your children. So not only will you uh you know

474
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Speaker 3: you're going to cause your kid to commit suicide. But

475
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Speaker 3: now there's this underlying thing though, Oh if you don't

476
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Speaker 3: affirm that you are harmful, right, and we could take

477
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Speaker 3: your children from you. I mean, there was a bill

478
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Speaker 3: that that Governor Knewsome vetoed. We thought he was going

479
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Speaker 3: to sign it. Uh and it uh let me. It

480
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Speaker 3: was AB seven and this bill was telling judges in

481
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Speaker 3: custody cases that you must uh uh, if a child

482
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Speaker 3: is struggling with their gender, the affirming parent is determined

483
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Speaker 3: to be the the one that is protecting the child's health,

484
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Speaker 3: safety and welfare. So it was putting. It was telling

485
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Speaker 3: a judge you cannot give custody to the non affirming parent.

486
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Speaker 3: So this is this is the beginning, and he vetoed it.

487
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Speaker 2: Why do you think he vetoed it.

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Speaker 3: I think he wants to be president. Yeah, and he

489
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Speaker 3: was he was going to have a hard time explaining

490
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Speaker 3: taking children from parents. Uh, and he didn't I think that,

491
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Speaker 3: And he said that in this veto message, he says,

492
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Speaker 3: you know, we're judges are already doing this. This bill

493
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Speaker 3: isn't necessary, Like, we don't need to tell judges because

494
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Speaker 3: all the judge, all the judges are getting training. You

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Speaker 3: know that affirming gender dysphoria is what all the mental

496
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: and here's it's it's so ridiculous, you know. So the

497
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Speaker 3: loss tells doctors they must affirm, and then a judge says, hey,

498
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Speaker 3: what is the treatment for gender dyspor you well, let's

499
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Speaker 3: what are the medical experts say? Oh? Look, they say,

500
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Speaker 3: affirming is the only answer. Oh yeah, it's the only answer,

501
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: because it's the only answer. You're they're allowed to give.

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Speaker 3: In parents, I mean, what does the parent do? They

503
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Speaker 3: trust experts? You live in society where you have to

504
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: trust experts. You don't know everything. But when the experts

505
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: become corrupt and they're not allowed to freely talk about

506
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Speaker 3: the various options without consequences of their own careers, you

507
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Speaker 3: do not have a This is this is what communism

508
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: is like. This is what communism is like. And we

509
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: are slowly like a you know, a frog and a

510
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: boiling pot of water, slowly warming up. We're not being

511
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Speaker 3: a We're not That's my biggest fear is not only

512
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: that you know why California is the way it is

513
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: is because the silence of the population. If you we

514
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Speaker 3: just had a poll released recently and it's said the

515
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Speaker 3: poll said that sixty two percent of the scientific fact

516
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Speaker 3: that sex is binary, and only twenty two percent held

517
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Speaker 3: the views that sex is not binary, and over seventy

518
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Speaker 3: percent of respond it's indicated that they define a woman

519
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Speaker 3: as a biological born female. Yet no one wants to

520
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Speaker 3: stand up for that in society, and they're just letting

521
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: the experts and the legislators run over them. They've been

522
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Speaker 3: powered into silence, and this cowering when it becomes part

523
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Speaker 3: of the culture like oh, I don't want to cause conflict,

524
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Speaker 3: I don't want to make people upset by telling the

525
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Speaker 3: obvious truth, and so everybody silences themselves. That is a

526
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Speaker 3: society ready for a dictator. I mean, if you and

527
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: so we are our organization is constantly encouraging not just Christians,

528
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Speaker 3: everybody to you have to publicly oppose these things, right,

529
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: and you do it in a loving way. You don't

530
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: have to be mean, but you have to. It's mean

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Speaker 3: to say nothing. It is cruel to say nothing. Children

532
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: are being hurt. Uh. Silence is destroying us. And so

533
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: that's that's our message. Everybody's got to find a way

534
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: to speak up and say something quick.

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Speaker 1: Break more on the assault on parental rights. You don't

536
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Speaker 1: have to be cruel to someone or to mean someone.

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Speaker 1: But that also doesn't mean that we have to go

538
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: along with a lie. And that doesn't mean we have

539
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Speaker 1: to live their lie. Just because someone says something doesn't

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00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: mean we have to go along with it, particularly if

541
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Speaker 1: it's not truthful. And yet, you know, here we are

542
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: as a society of sheep, and we saw this during

543
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Speaker 1: COVID as well, and I think a lot of it's

544
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Speaker 1: social media has conditioned. You know, I think the more

545
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Speaker 1: we lean on technology, the less we use common sense

546
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Speaker 1: and independent thinking.

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Speaker 2: And then I also think.

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Speaker 1: That there's this sort of uh, you know, societal reinforcement

549
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Speaker 1: to be like everyone else, to be accepted, and you know,

550
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: there's something really sinister there, and it's led us to

551
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Speaker 1: this point where you know, we're disgusting the state's ability

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Speaker 1: to take a child away from their parents simply because

553
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Speaker 1: they don't want to go along with a lie.

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Speaker 2: Where does this take us as a society? You know,

555
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Speaker 2: where are we heading?

556
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Speaker 3: Well? I hate to think where we're heading. It just

557
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: continues I'm hoping we get to a point where where

558
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 3: parents and society realizes, you know, they just stand up

559
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Speaker 3: and say no, I'm not doing this. And even if

560
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Speaker 3: that hurts my career, even if that means I lose

561
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Speaker 3: my job, even if it means I have to move,

562
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Speaker 3: I'm going to you know, I'm going to stand up

563
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Speaker 3: to this. I mean, that's what That's where I hope

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Speaker 3: we get. You know, it also is a symptom of

565
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Speaker 3: and this is from you know, my Christian perspective is

566
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Speaker 3: that when you abandon a Christian worldview where there is

567
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Speaker 3: a God who has created us and we have our

568
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: value is found in that creator God, and then people

569
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Speaker 3: have a somewhere to base their identity on, right, and

570
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Speaker 3: they have a moral code like here's what good is,

571
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Speaker 3: here's what evil it is. Those things exist in real

572
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Speaker 3: and there's a little bit of bad in everybody then

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Speaker 3: and we all we all need to deal with that, right.

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Speaker 3: But when you when you don't have that anymore, all

575
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Speaker 3: you're left with is your feelings to guide you, right.

576
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Speaker 3: And that's what's happening here in California. We're telling kids

577
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Speaker 3: to decide who they are based on their feelings. I

578
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: don't know what you were like as a kid. But

579
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: my feelings, you know, we're all over the place, and

580
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: they were based on what peers were thinking and saying.

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Speaker 3: And I felt, you know, many times terrible about myself,

582
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Speaker 3: right because I wasn't accepted by this group or that group,

583
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Speaker 3: you know, until my parents would have to continually remind

584
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: me of who I was, right, and then I was

585
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: valuable and that God created me and that makes me

586
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: a you know, and I turned to God with my

587
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: issues and problems, and yeah, you're going to have you know,

588
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: there's going to be you know, we call it sin,

589
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: and there's sinful struggles, and but that doesn't mean you

590
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: have to live by those. You depend on God to

591
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: change and to get forgiveness. And what if you don't

592
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: have that, where do you turn for all your values? Right?

593
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Speaker 3: And so I think the whole culture is like struggling.

594
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: Where am I turning? Well? I got this group out

595
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Speaker 3: here that says, you know, all my feelings are great,

596
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Speaker 3: and if I want to be my authentic self, well

597
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: then you just follow whatever your feelings tell you. You

598
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: don't want society to try to determine their morality by

599
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: how they naturally feel inclined to behave you don't. I mean,

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Speaker 3: go to a school yard and see how kids treat

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Speaker 3: each other. People. Kids need guidance, moral guidance, and it's

602
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: not just you know, the law of the jungle, because

603
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: that's what it will turn into inner cities where families

604
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: completely broken down and there's no guide and people just

605
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: harm each other. Right, I don't know. I mean that's

606
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: I'm hoping folks wake up. And you see pockets of

607
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: parents waking up. So that's encouraging. You know, we got

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Speaker 3: a lot more parents speaking out here in California than

609
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: ever before, and so I'm encouraged by that. And you

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Speaker 3: got you know, you know, people like Governor DeSantis right

611
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: standing up and talking about these things when no other

612
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Speaker 3: We have a problem in California. We can't get Republicans

613
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 3: to speak about these things. Even the Republicans won't talk

614
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: about any of these bills. They'll vote against them, but

615
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: they won't stand up and say that, you know, sex

616
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Speaker 3: is binary. They won't be like Governor DeSantis and stand

617
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Speaker 3: up against the gender ideology pushed on you know, elementary

618
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: school kids. We don't have any Republicans like that.

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Speaker 1: Sadly, Governor DeSantis. You know, I live in Florida. He's

620
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Speaker 1: he's a he's a good man, and even you know,

621
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Speaker 1: and he's an amazing governor.

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Speaker 2: We're so fortunate to have them.

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Speaker 1: I keep saying, you know, during COVID, I'm like, this

624
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Speaker 1: is the hill I die on. With vaccines and all

625
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: these different things, and then now with the transgender stuff,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the hill I die.

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Speaker 2: You know, I refuse to.

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Speaker 1: I refuse to call someone as she who's a man,

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Speaker 1: you know, I refuse to.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not going along with it. It's a lie.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to live it.

632
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going to you know, I'm not well treat

633
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: everyone with respect, but I'm not going to go along

634
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: with something. I keep being like, this is the hill

635
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: I die on, And then there's just so many hills,

636
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: like it's like never ending.

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Speaker 2: Greg.

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00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: Where can people find you, know your work and learn

639
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: more about the California Family Council.

640
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, our website is a California Family dot org. That's

641
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: Californiafamily dot org and and all this stuff we've been

642
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 3: talking about. I'm writing stories about it all the time,

643
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 3: and so we're putting out three stories a week. We

644
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: got podcasts that we're doing. We're all over social media,

645
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: you know, and so that's the best place to go

646
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: to stay in touch with And we have a newsletter

647
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 3: you can sign up for goes out weekly, keeps you

648
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: in touch with what's happened in California. And you're right,

649
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: what happens in California is what liberals would like to

650
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 3: happen in the whole entire country. And so, you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna happen in the future, but

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Speaker 3: Governor desantus reent, Governor knew some really wants to be president.

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Speaker 3: So if you want to know what that means, you know,

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Speaker 3: figure out what he's doing in California.

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Speaker 2: He's already measuring the drapes.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, Greg Bert, this has been a really fascinating conversation.

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Speaker 1: I truly appreciate your time and informing us about all

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Speaker 1: this really scary stuff that's happening in California and could

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Speaker 1: happen in the rest of the country. So I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time, sir.

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Speaker 3: It likes so much.

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Speaker 1: That was Greg Bert, vice president of the California Family Council.

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Speaker 2: He was amazing.

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Speaker 1: I learned so much from him, so really appreciate him

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Speaker 1: taking the time to come on the show and to

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Speaker 1: bring all that information to us when they get home.

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Speaker 1: For listening every Monday and Thursday, but of course you

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Speaker 1: can listen throughout the week. What do you think John

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Speaker 1: Castillo might produce for putting the show together?

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Speaker 2: Until next time,