Speaker 1: From the King of sports books comes the Key Sports
Speaker 1: podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry
Speaker 1: Ferrara and Olivia Arlan Decker. The stage is set. Time
Speaker 1: to look ahead to the wild card rounds. Anything's possible
Speaker 1: any given Sunday, that's the phrase, right, Well it's also
Speaker 1: Saturday or Monday whenever. All these games are a huge
Speaker 1: weekend of football ahead of us, and we're so glad
Speaker 1: you're joining us to look at the action. Jerry Ferrara,
Speaker 1: Welcome back and happy New Year. What was your New
Speaker 1: Year's resolution? My New Year's resolution was to watch more
Speaker 1: sports that if you could believe it. Okay, maybe not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need I miss hockey and to get back into UFC.
Speaker 1: But either way, the stage is set for football and
Speaker 1: my bye week is over. I am ready to go.
Speaker 1: The NFL season might have been one week too long
Speaker 1: because I this week was a little bit painful watching
Speaker 1: some of these games, but you said it perfectly. Let's
Speaker 1: go real quick. Do you have a hockey team? I do.
Speaker 1: I'm a die hard Ranger fan, loved hockey, but they
Speaker 1: did hurt my feelings in when they had had the
Speaker 1: player lockout. It was the year after the Rangers won
Speaker 1: the Cup for the first time in fifty years, and
Speaker 1: they had an older team, so thirteen year old me
Speaker 1: didn't understand why they locked the players out. Let's go
Speaker 1: love hockey. Yeah, tough to explain that one to a
Speaker 1: thirteen year old, you know, Jerry, I'm hurting. I am
Speaker 1: really hurting because I'm oh for three on college football
Speaker 1: playoff games. Betting wise, I had Michigan covering they obviously
Speaker 1: lost a TCU Georgia covering against Ohio State. They only
Speaker 1: won by one on New Year's Eve. I think that
Speaker 1: was a two and a half point spread, and I
Speaker 1: had TCU covering in the National Championship thirteen and a
Speaker 1: half is what I got it at. You were crush
Speaker 1: them sixty five to seven. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's a resolution, But like any degenerate gambler, I can't
Speaker 1: decide if I keep trying to come back or if
Speaker 1: I cut my losses. And maybe I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you this, I'm not gambling on the wild card
Speaker 1: round because the weirdest things happen I come back at all,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like I'm taking really safe bets. I'm
Speaker 1: doing teasers like you, I don't know what what do
Speaker 1: you think I should do? Should I wait till like
Speaker 1: the divisional round? Okay, it sounds like first of all
Speaker 1: to you. We definitely need to talk to Peter Andrew
Speaker 1: on the show later because he knows what it's like
Speaker 1: to kind of be on a little bit of a
Speaker 1: down streak. But he brought it back. He's really recovered.
Speaker 1: Can I just add to that Peter andrews to blame.
Speaker 1: We did this together as a team, you know. He
Speaker 1: he wasn't on the last couple episodes because we did
Speaker 1: our New Year's show and college football last week. But
Speaker 1: him and I have been texting and doing this on
Speaker 1: our own, and in fact, he came to London with
Speaker 1: his wife. He came to London for New Year's Eve.
Speaker 1: So we spent Years Eve with bet MGM Betty Expert,
Speaker 1: Peter Andrew and we had a ten offense. So we'll
Speaker 1: talk with Pete at the end of the show. You know,
Speaker 1: I did something for the first time ever. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: implore you to maybe not skip the wild card round
Speaker 1: only because there is, in my opinion, there's some opportunity
Speaker 1: like this might be your last chance to bet against.
Speaker 1: Skyler Thompson is us name whoever the Dolphins are trying
Speaker 1: out there. This might be your last chance to bet
Speaker 1: against Tom Brady in the Bucks, although I don't know
Speaker 1: if you'd want to do that. So I already I
Speaker 1: did something for the first time ever. I have never
Speaker 1: placed playoff bet as early as I have. I saw
Speaker 1: the lines. What was it was? Taking this on the Tuesday?
Speaker 1: I saw them, I want to say, yesterday morning, and
Speaker 1: the teaser, the three team ten point teaser was screaming
Speaker 1: at me. I think it was Niners. So you get
Speaker 1: them down to like, uh, I think minus one and
Speaker 1: a half Giants, I think you kind of pushed them
Speaker 1: upward to like fourteen and a half, and um, I'm
Speaker 1: forgetting the third team, which was another there's the Bills knocking. Basically,
Speaker 1: it's like Bills to win, Niners to win, Giants to
Speaker 1: cover a fourteen and a half. And I did it
Speaker 1: on a Monday. Yeah, the spread too for Bills in Miami.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be torture. I mean already, the Dolphins cannot
Speaker 1: play up there, they can't play where it's cold. And then,
Speaker 1: like he said, Skyler Thompson rolling out at quarterback and
Speaker 1: even the to a conversation I think is a good
Speaker 1: one to have, and maybe we wait till next week.
Speaker 1: But if you're the Dolphins franchise, what do you do
Speaker 1: with two? I'm moving forward because of course he wanted
Speaker 1: some big games, he got the ball rolling everything. But
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's like a lock for a big
Speaker 1: extension or anything. No way. Well, first and foremost, you know,
Speaker 1: who knows always three concussions to three and two and
Speaker 1: a half months, Like there's just such a big health
Speaker 1: concern and in college, big injuries in college. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to say I know anything about concussions,
Speaker 1: and I know I'm sure like whoever's handling him is no,
Speaker 1: you know, they'll give the right information, but like I don't.
Speaker 1: Is it out of the question that he even plays again? Much?
Speaker 1: I his career is over because he can't play. But
Speaker 1: that's a lot of concussions in a short amount of
Speaker 1: time bills right now or minus ten and a half. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's bigger than I thought. So that's what I met
Speaker 1: with the ten point tees or so. But you could
Speaker 1: lock them. It's kind of probably it's gonna be a bigger,
Speaker 1: so you I locked them in with my ten point
Speaker 1: teas are basically to win. Yeah, it's basically builds to
Speaker 1: win because the point five doesn't matter because there's no ties.
Speaker 1: So but I think that might go as high as
Speaker 1: I don't know, how does it get to thirteen? It
Speaker 1: might get the thirteen. You know what I might do.
Speaker 1: I might wait till we get to Phoenix for the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and we're gonna be in the bed MGM
Speaker 1: like sports book, which is, oh my gosh, the pictures
Speaker 1: of this place. It looks immaculate. It's mountains in the background,
Speaker 1: the stadium right in the background. So you and I
Speaker 1: have a really fun super Bowl trip just in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I can't wait. So I might wait
Speaker 1: till we're actually there in the sports book and maybe
Speaker 1: just do a ton of super Bowl props. Okay, outlook,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I might bring up I might bring
Speaker 1: a sleeping bag and camp out on the bet MGM
Speaker 1: set like sports But I just might camp out there.
Speaker 1: I think That's what I'm gonna do. Plus, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be nice weather, so aren't you looking forward to that?
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a lot of fun. Well, Coming up
Speaker 1: in this show, we have a great guest joining us.
Speaker 1: It's the man behind one of the most popular NFL columns,
Speaker 1: Football Morning in America f M I A an outstanding
Speaker 1: writer and NFL insider, Peter King will be joining us.
Speaker 1: He's he's like gold standard in sports journalism. He's at
Speaker 1: NBC now, but you might have first read Peter during
Speaker 1: his twenty nine years at Sports Illustrated, writing the internet's
Speaker 1: most popular NFL column, Monday Morning Quarterback. Also the author
Speaker 1: of five books in his spare time. So he's been
Speaker 1: at Sports Illustrated as long as I've been alive. So
Speaker 1: that makes me feel very weird about his make you
Speaker 1: feel young. He's been there a long time. He's the best.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we have tons to talk with Peter about
Speaker 1: about Week eighteen and looking ahead to wild Card round
Speaker 1: and just overall big stories. He's a big story kind
Speaker 1: of guy with incredible context in this league. I want
Speaker 1: to pick his brain to about if we have time,
Speaker 1: I hope we do just about the quarterback situation. I
Speaker 1: think this is setting up to be the closest thing
Speaker 1: to the NFL has had to like an NBA off
Speaker 1: season in the sense of what veteran quarterbacks are going
Speaker 1: to be bounced around. We know the draft and what
Speaker 1: can't wait to talk about the Texans situation. And but
Speaker 1: we know the draft, but there's gonna be at least
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks that probably go rather early. So I just
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a crazy year for quarterbacks. You know,
Speaker 1: cars out there floating around. Garoppolo may come back, that
Speaker 1: just might be moving. What are the Jets gonna do?
Speaker 1: Goff sitting there in Detroit? So I really want to
Speaker 1: talk to Peter about quarterbacks going forward. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: Just there's like big names and new names that all
Speaker 1: can be shuffled around. It's really exciting, especially I don't
Speaker 1: want to look too far ahead to the draft, but
Speaker 1: I mean week eighteen, it's hard not to talk about
Speaker 1: draft capital. So you're right in this season really did
Speaker 1: come down to the final game. So before we talk
Speaker 1: about playoffs, Jerry, are there any bets that you want
Speaker 1: to brag about or admit that you had really wrong?
Speaker 1: I went first when I haven't talked to you about
Speaker 1: two weeks, so I'm curious if there's anything I've missed,
Speaker 1: you know, as far as like really wrong, I've been
Speaker 1: pretty solid. Like I said, the teasers have held up
Speaker 1: my parlays. I'm like the king of three out of
Speaker 1: four or four out of five. I really should just
Speaker 1: be betting these games straight up and not parlaying them
Speaker 1: because I keep winning three out of four, four out
Speaker 1: of five. So I could have been making money this
Speaker 1: whole time, but I just wanted But you know, my
Speaker 1: parlays are more long shoddy. What I did, really I
Speaker 1: enjoyed this week was I really bet the scenarios and
Speaker 1: it ended up being okay. But I bet like the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh making the playoffs scenario, meaning I bet the Steelers.
Speaker 1: I had to sprinkle a little on the Jets, but
Speaker 1: I also bet the bill, so I did okay with that,
Speaker 1: and I did bet. I just had a feeling the
Speaker 1: Rams were gonna beat the Seahawks. I really did, and
Speaker 1: man did they scare the heck out of a lot
Speaker 1: of people. And I'm not gonna lie, and this is
Speaker 1: probably painful for you all over the lot, I was all,
Speaker 1: I've rode the Lions wind streak this entire time, and
Speaker 1: I'm proud to say it. Yeah. Sorry, we'll get to
Speaker 1: that one. That was brutal. And again I always talked
Speaker 1: about this because we're in London. When that game got
Speaker 1: slated to the Sunday night game I can't watch, and
Speaker 1: and the Georgia National Championship game, my alma mater, I
Speaker 1: have to wake up to that news. So I got
Speaker 1: to see how horribly I missed on my bet, but
Speaker 1: then also that I missed this complete butchering job by
Speaker 1: my Georgia Bulldogs, which would have been really fun to
Speaker 1: watch in person, and all the theatrics of that's in
Speaker 1: Bennett's last game and all this. But that's the one
Speaker 1: thing I hate about living overseas is I missed these
Speaker 1: night games and then it's horrible when you have lost
Speaker 1: money on them. But as we do, look now at
Speaker 1: the playoffs, so Chiefs are the number one seed in
Speaker 1: the a f C Eagles number one seed in the NFC.
Speaker 1: Do either one of those surprise you, No, not at all.
Speaker 1: Obviously the Eagles scared everyone for a minute, but that
Speaker 1: just you know, you see, really, it's how the value
Speaker 1: j with the with the value Jalen her attack Gardener
Speaker 1: Minshew is like a trendy name. We all love them.
Speaker 1: Great couple, right, but you know, day and day I
Speaker 1: think now that even though the and the Giants did
Speaker 1: test them, even with all their backups. You know, the
Speaker 1: Giants played them to the to the final whistle. But
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be back on track. Their
Speaker 1: biggest issue is getting healthy and whatever rust Hurts has
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs. Not that the Chiefs don't surprise me
Speaker 1: at all. I really do think when they lose, they
Speaker 1: fall asleep at the wheel. That's how good they are.
Speaker 1: They're board with being great. Yeah, they know though it
Speaker 1: might be a crazy tough road for them. You know,
Speaker 1: they might have to go through the Bengals and the
Speaker 1: Bills and the Bills. Yeah, no, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: AFC is gonna be really good. But they get a
Speaker 1: rest up obviously, and then for the Eagles to rest up.
Speaker 1: That's huge with Jalen Hurts injury. But I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see if Kansas City can work up some more crazy
Speaker 1: trick plays that look straight out of Ted Lasso or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was pretty fun to watch. That's when
Speaker 1: you know they're so much better than everyone else because
Speaker 1: they actually had the balls to do that play. Of
Speaker 1: course it was out of hand, but did you see
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes after the game was like we were just
Speaker 1: messing around and Coach Read said, like it, let's do it.
Speaker 1: It's pretty insane that we're watching. You know. The only
Speaker 1: real equivalent to me is like how a player or
Speaker 1: a team has changed the game is like sort of
Speaker 1: what like Steph Curry and the Warriors they with basketball
Speaker 1: of how they were the first team to really win
Speaker 1: by shooting with that much volume. Uh, you know, it
Speaker 1: used to be a shooting team can't win. You have
Speaker 1: to be able to go in the paint, you have
Speaker 1: to have a low post presence. They change that. Mahomes
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs have just changed everything offensively, and it
Speaker 1: covers up a lot. You know, their biggest risk is
Speaker 1: going to be can their defense hold up and they're
Speaker 1: gonna there's two good quarterbacks who are waiting for them.
Speaker 1: But hey, he covers up, and that offense covers up
Speaker 1: so much right. Well, just by the way, as I
Speaker 1: was looking back at last year seating, both conferences top
Speaker 1: seeds were upset in the divisional rounds and both four
Speaker 1: seats made it all the way to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Rams and Bengals. So the Ram season is obviously done,
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, but their final game against Seattle proved
Speaker 1: to be one of the best of Week eighteen. Seattle
Speaker 1: takes them to overtime. With a little help from their
Speaker 1: friends in Detroit, they make the playoffs. Do you know
Speaker 1: Smith got a million dollar bonus? He had a great season?
Speaker 1: What do you say mid season? He's like, they wrote
Speaker 1: me off. I didn't. Right back, everyone was kind of
Speaker 1: cheering for Gino. Great season. Let's and look, I think
Speaker 1: we could say, I wonder what MGM want to Let's
Speaker 1: see we could find the odds of what the two
Speaker 1: four seeds would be this year. To Matt, I don't
Speaker 1: think we're gonna get a Bucks Jags super Bowl, Florida
Speaker 1: would go insane. I don't think we're gonna get that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for Gino, it's it's an incredible story. And
Speaker 1: it hasn't been a roller coaster because that was his
Speaker 1: high moment of the year and he was almost out
Speaker 1: of the league almost. I mean, we didn't know if
Speaker 1: we'd really ever see him as a starter again, and
Speaker 1: then he definitely hit a low point. This year. It
Speaker 1: got a little rough for the Seahawks. The defense got exposed,
Speaker 1: the injury started hitting, and then they pulled it together.
Speaker 1: That win against Detroit now is a defining win of
Speaker 1: his career in a way, because that win against Detroit's
Speaker 1: what basically locked up the playoffs for them, having the
Speaker 1: tie break over them. Okay, you mentioned the Steelers, and
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Steelers and the Lions,
Speaker 1: two teams that missed the playoffs but really hit a
Speaker 1: stride at the end of the season. Looking at the Steelers,
Speaker 1: they started three and seven, finished six and one. You
Speaker 1: mentioned your kind of cheering form you can never count
Speaker 1: out Mike Tomlin. And then the Lions. Oh, the Lions.
Speaker 1: They started one in six, they finished eight and two,
Speaker 1: and Dan Campbell at halftime being very honest, very transparent.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love the passion saying we went
Speaker 1: the Packers to miss the playoffs. It was awesome. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I ever like I'm sorry the Seattle
Speaker 1: in Miami, I feel like the rightful heirs of the
Speaker 1: seventh seed more and the past, I'm sorry Packri. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's the Lions and it's the Steelers. I
Speaker 1: think the playoffs would be significantly better. And maybe this
Speaker 1: will hold up to be incorrect, you know, maybe they'll
Speaker 1: be a big upset. Maybe Miami will show up. Maybe
Speaker 1: Seattle will show up. I don't see it. I just
Speaker 1: would have loved to watch Lions Niners. I think that
Speaker 1: game would have been awesome. Obviously San Francisco would have prevailed,
Speaker 1: but I think it would have been a much better game.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I would have definitely love to see Steelers Bills,
Speaker 1: but it shook out how it shook out. They both
Speaker 1: teams came on too late. But I want to talk
Speaker 1: to Peter King specifically about Goff and that situation in Detroit,
Speaker 1: because I think that when I was talking about quarterbacks
Speaker 1: earlier and how it's going to be an interesting offseason,
Speaker 1: I think Golf is on a big part of the
Speaker 1: interest and what they do with him and how they
Speaker 1: worked out out, I think he's earned himself that job.
Speaker 1: I don't think they should draft a quarterback, right. We've
Speaker 1: talked about it on the show, and I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I think, especially watching how we finished with fifteen touchdowns
Speaker 1: and zero interceptions, I think Lions have to excentiment I
Speaker 1: like it. You gotta stop getting in Twitter wars over this, though, Jerry.
Speaker 1: You gotta know your audience. I don't know, Yes, I do,
Speaker 1: I know my audience. I told you. I don't really
Speaker 1: participate in Twitter that much. But and maybe I'm part
Speaker 1: of the problem because I'm sure there's someone is saying
Speaker 1: that about me, like this Ferrari guy. I won't get
Speaker 1: off this point, but just acknowledge when what you're saying,
Speaker 1: you know, when the narrative change. Stop trying to fit
Speaker 1: all the things into your narrative that's now changing, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the strategy of a rookie quarterback contract. It's a great
Speaker 1: way to build a team. Of course, duh when you
Speaker 1: hit on the homes or Joshua Allen or Jalen Hurts. Sure,
Speaker 1: but we've seen the opposite of that when it's no
Speaker 1: offense Zach Wilson or you know, josh Rosen and you
Speaker 1: wasted the high first round draft picks. So I think
Speaker 1: the lines are close. I think they're close, and that
Speaker 1: division is shaking up. Good for them. And that's why
Speaker 1: we love the NFL, right like in the NBA. I
Speaker 1: don't think you'd ever see that this. You know, we
Speaker 1: got nothing to play for, but we have a ton
Speaker 1: of pride. We want to finish with a winning record,
Speaker 1: which is very important. God, that's why you gotta love
Speaker 1: the final day of the NFL season. It was it
Speaker 1: was fantastic, but another season ender and Lambeau. This is
Speaker 1: three straight seasons now that Aaron Rodgers has lost the
Speaker 1: final season, the final game of the season in Lambeau,
Speaker 1: which is just unacceptable. And you know, after the game,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers didn't want to do a jersey swap, that
Speaker 1: whole thing. He walked off with his arm around Randall
Speaker 1: Cobb as old, buddy, you know what when talking about
Speaker 1: the Packers, and I mentioned, like, I bet the path
Speaker 1: for that game to matter. I had the Lions getting
Speaker 1: the points. I did initially earlier that they think, you know,
Speaker 1: all right, Lions getting the points. I just liked that bet.
Speaker 1: But then once the Seahawks one, to me, that did
Speaker 1: make the I'm not saying I was that smart. I
Speaker 1: know people have had this take. It did make the
Speaker 1: Lions to me, much more of a threat to actually win.
Speaker 1: I didn't think they would ever pack it in, for
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, and say, yeah, let's roll over.
Speaker 1: So that's when I took some Lions money line. Actually,
Speaker 1: he didn't want to do a jersey swap. And they certainly,
Speaker 1: let me say, they certainly filmed and shot that like
Speaker 1: it was we were watching the end of a career.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I they just shot it that way. Maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know if Aaron Rodgers tipped his hand at all.
Speaker 1: It's certainly they shot it in a way like you
Speaker 1: as an audience sort saying, this is this guy's last game.
Speaker 1: The jersey swap thing, I didn't not reading too much
Speaker 1: into that, like just maybe he wants to keep his jersey.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like the first person who runs up
Speaker 1: to you, you you have to be like, oh, okay, you
Speaker 1: asked first. It's you know, it's an Aaron Rodgers jersey.
Speaker 1: He could be his last game in Green Bay. But
Speaker 1: it sounded dramatic the way he did it, and Aaron
Speaker 1: doesn't say anything without thought, and the way that he
Speaker 1: said no, I'm going to keep this one. That seemed tactical.
Speaker 1: Everything about him seems tactical. Look, is there were a
Speaker 1: world though, where I don't know. I think there's a
Speaker 1: world where maybe the Packers say, yeah, let's let's make
Speaker 1: something happen and let's move on from this. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's all just his decision. I think the Packers
Speaker 1: are finally at the place too, where they have to
Speaker 1: think about their options going forward and how they can
Speaker 1: make this team better. And he makes a giant sum
Speaker 1: of money, which is good. He deserves it so but yeah,
Speaker 1: that does kind of lead us, right and that we
Speaker 1: would doing Audible of the Week. He walked off with
Speaker 1: his arm around his good buddy Randall Cob. Who knows
Speaker 1: maybe his Randall Cobb's last game and that's why he
Speaker 1: was walking out like that. But this is what he
Speaker 1: said after the game, and are Audible of the Week
Speaker 1: going through your mind? Is you and Randall walk with
Speaker 1: your arms around each other off the field. I just
Speaker 1: love the man. I uh I always had a tight
Speaker 1: friendship with him and just a lot of gratitude h
Speaker 1: in the midst of disappointment. The best part about this
Speaker 1: game is the relationships to come out of it, because
Speaker 1: those lasted longer than the career, and I'm thankful for Randal.
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on what you want to do
Speaker 1: next year? I mean it's a little raw right now,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a little bit after the game.
Speaker 1: So ah, I want to take the emotion out of
Speaker 1: it and have the conversations and see where the organization's
Speaker 1: at and see how I feel after some time has passed.
Speaker 1: Is there any sort of time table. Is that there
Speaker 1: like a date where you want to make your decision
Speaker 1: by yeah, I mean, I'm not going to hold them hostage.
Speaker 1: You know, I understand. You know, we're still in January
Speaker 1: here marches for agency. So, UM, I just need some
Speaker 1: time to, like I said, get the emotion out of
Speaker 1: it and then figure out what's best. You know, you
Speaker 1: want to go out winning super Bowl, but it's very
Speaker 1: rare that that actually gets to happen. Um, I don't
Speaker 1: want to, you know, lose your last game, uh and
Speaker 1: miss out in the playoffs. But this is a great
Speaker 1: profession and a really tough business and doesn't always end
Speaker 1: with rainbows for everybody. Okay, enough of hearing from us.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the King of NFL writers, Peter King.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us again. Peter. How are you, Olivia? Jerry?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. How about you, guys? We're great. We're
Speaker 1: we're kind of pulling our hair out trying to think
Speaker 1: of all the playoff picture and all the scenarios and
Speaker 1: what we're all going to do for the wild card weekend.
Speaker 1: And that's why we've brought in the man who can
Speaker 1: give us a little bit of clarity. But before we
Speaker 1: get to all that, we got great news obviously this
Speaker 1: last week on Tomorrow, Hamlin, and it led off your
Speaker 1: column and was written so well. Of course, I'm curious
Speaker 1: of all the stories that you've covered in your career,
Speaker 1: none have been quite like this. So what is your
Speaker 1: takeaway on everything, How the NFL handled it, the players,
Speaker 1: the fans, a fundraising generosity, everything that encompassed the story,
Speaker 1: you know, Olivia. The other day I was on the
Speaker 1: phone with one of Damar Hamlin's best friends. It's a
Speaker 1: guy he played high school football within Pittsburgh. His name
Speaker 1: is Rodney Thomas. He's now a safety with the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 1: And at the time I spoke to him, it was
Speaker 1: still very touch and go with Tamar. Nobody was really
Speaker 1: sure exactly how he was going to be, and I
Speaker 1: think he was still in the medically induced comy, was
Speaker 1: still heavily sedated. But there's a lot of optimism about it,
Speaker 1: a lot of positive signs. And so I said to
Speaker 1: Rodney Thomas. We were talking about the fact that by
Speaker 1: this time he had whatever six million dollars for a
Speaker 1: toy fund for McKees Rocks Pennsylvania that originally he had
Speaker 1: hoped to raise dollars and I said, do you know
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady has donated ten thousand dollars to Damar
Speaker 1: Hamblin's fund. And Rodney Thomas just said, wait until he
Speaker 1: hears that. And you know, I think there is a
Speaker 1: lot you know, I was at the game on Sunday
Speaker 1: and there was an awful lot of there was an
Speaker 1: awful lot of hope. And you know, as you guys know,
Speaker 1: we live in a very divisive time in our country,
Speaker 1: and at that time, one of the things that Sean
Speaker 1: McDermott told me after the game is that I really
Speaker 1: hope that a lot of people in our country, and
Speaker 1: positions of power and leadership in our country, can see
Speaker 1: what happens when everybody comes together and everybody is pulling
Speaker 1: for each other. And I thought that was a really
Speaker 1: good thing for him. He had brought it up at
Speaker 1: his press conference, and so I interviewed him for Football
Speaker 1: Night in America for NBC and I asked him about it,
Speaker 1: and I found myself thinking that I think that's a
Speaker 1: really important thing. I think that politically this is not
Speaker 1: going to bring anybody together, but I do think in
Speaker 1: a societal way, it could bring us closer together because
Speaker 1: we realize what happens if the first emotion, the first
Speaker 1: movement is going to be love and help and assistance,
Speaker 1: and I really hope that there's some of that that
Speaker 1: survives this period that kind of doubt it, but I
Speaker 1: want to think positive. So those are a few thoughts
Speaker 1: I had, plus the fact that I just think that
Speaker 1: there are so many people who got some inspiration from
Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin and having nothing to do with the fact
Speaker 1: that it's probably a pretty good chance if he wants
Speaker 1: to that he can play football again. But it was
Speaker 1: it was different than that. Really, it's all about how
Speaker 1: a lot of people came together in hope and feeling
Speaker 1: a lot better about themselves. And I think sports too,
Speaker 1: So I think there was a lot of positives that
Speaker 1: came out of it. Yeah, As someone who tries to
Speaker 1: not be on Twitter too much because we all know
Speaker 1: what sometimes those roads could lead to, it was really
Speaker 1: the first time in a long time, or the last
Speaker 1: time I can remember where that next morning, when I
Speaker 1: was kind of getting ready, it really was Twitter. That
Speaker 1: was for the first time everyone agreeing and united on
Speaker 1: something and wanting to help and do everything they can,
Speaker 1: and everyone in agreement about how like no one should
Speaker 1: play that game. So I'm with you. I did find
Speaker 1: myself bigging that the next day. I hope this just
Speaker 1: stays with us, so we don't move on so fast
Speaker 1: as we all do with everything changing, at least with
Speaker 1: the good parts, because I really did feel we were
Speaker 1: all pretty united for the first time in a long
Speaker 1: time on just him being well and getting better and
Speaker 1: the job everyone did to save his life. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think the other part of this, too is that I
Speaker 1: think we now have some realization that, you know. I
Speaker 1: was talking to Klais Campbell of the Ravens the other day.
Speaker 1: He's on the he's a big NFL p A guys,
Speaker 1: so he's a big union guy, and he was talking
Speaker 1: about how the union, and I applaud the union for this,
Speaker 1: they have pushed very, very hard for significant medical advances
Speaker 1: on the sidelines of games. And I was talking to
Speaker 1: Tom Mayer, the medical director for the nfl PA, on SAT.
Speaker 1: Today night. I was a hotel in Buffalo, and we
Speaker 1: were talking a lot about this, and you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how many people realize all of the resources
Speaker 1: that are available medically on the sidelines of NFL games,
Speaker 1: to the point that if you're going to get very
Speaker 1: very seriously injured, if you're going to be in a
Speaker 1: life threatening situation, it sounds stupid, incredible, gratuitous to say,
Speaker 1: but the best place to be is on a field
Speaker 1: in an NFL stadium. And again, I know it sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: but if you've got three e m t s, you've
Speaker 1: got emergency medical technicians there, if you've got some great interness,
Speaker 1: if you've got some of the best people in the
Speaker 1: world at performing CPR, if you have actually, uh, someone
Speaker 1: who is available to put a breathing tube down your
Speaker 1: neck in a moment's note us, I know all of
Speaker 1: that sounds a little bit graphic, but and this is
Speaker 1: going to sound almost unfeeling, but it isn't. I think
Speaker 1: the upset would be if DeMar Hamlin died because the
Speaker 1: ability to keep someone alive who whose heart had stopped
Speaker 1: but otherwise an incredibly healthy person. You know, Mike Ryan
Speaker 1: whose NBC's medical analysts medicine sports medicine analyst. He told
Speaker 1: me that in Florida, he lives down near Jacksonville, and
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville this year there was a high school across
Speaker 1: player who got hit in the chest with a ball
Speaker 1: thrown at high speed and his heart stopped. And so
Speaker 1: at that moment, if someone performed CPR and this player
Speaker 1: was back on the field in five weeks playing lacrosse.
Speaker 1: So and that is at a high school, the cross
Speaker 1: game in Florida. So and I'm not trying to to
Speaker 1: not say that what happened to Tamar Hamblin wasn't life
Speaker 1: and death. It was. But the fact is, there's an
Speaker 1: awful lot of stories right now about the ability to
Speaker 1: bring people back like nothing ever happened. So, you know,
Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens with tomorrow. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's going to play football again. I I don't
Speaker 1: think there would be anything to stop him from doing so.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to minimize what happened, but I
Speaker 1: just believe the upset would have been if he if
Speaker 1: he didn't make it. You went to the Bills Patriots game.
Speaker 1: He mentioned after the game you got to interview nine
Speaker 1: Hines after he returned the opening kickoff yards for a touchdown,
Speaker 1: then again in the third quarter. He wrote about it
Speaker 1: so beautifully. I would love if you could kind of
Speaker 1: recap his relationship with themar and how that was so
Speaker 1: poignant at such a time. You know, sometimes Olivia, you
Speaker 1: go to these games and I mean, shoot, that was
Speaker 1: like a conference championship game in the number of media,
Speaker 1: how it was covered what happened. So my job always,
Speaker 1: I feel I want to find out things that nobody
Speaker 1: else knows. That's just my goal. It always has been.
Speaker 1: And the one thing I found out here that was
Speaker 1: really almost just touching is nai Heinz got traded to
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills from Indianapolis at the trading deadline, which
Speaker 1: was two months ago, two months and a week ago,
Speaker 1: and he didn't know people in Buffalo, and so when
Speaker 1: he reported to the Bills, you know, and just was
Speaker 1: shaking hands with people, getting to know Sean McDermott and
Speaker 1: every everybody. He was in the hot tub at the
Speaker 1: Bills and this guy walks up to him and he goes, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm DeMar hamm and I'm a safety here. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to say hi, and you know, welcome to the
Speaker 1: team and all that stuff, and he said, so he
Speaker 1: was one of the first guys to introduce himself. And
Speaker 1: then every day he came up to me and he
Speaker 1: said you're gonna break one. I can feel it, you
Speaker 1: are going to break one. And they formed this little
Speaker 1: thing where he would say to them every week they'd
Speaker 1: be preparing for a game, they'd say, this is the week, bro,
Speaker 1: this is it, this is it. And so I thought
Speaker 1: it was really cool that the week before he got
Speaker 1: hurt that DeMar Hamlin said to him they had this
Speaker 1: little saying among them, among the two of them, hashtag
Speaker 1: free hinds, which is, you know, they said it to
Speaker 1: each other all the time, like you are going to
Speaker 1: score a touchdown this week. So he said it to
Speaker 1: him before the Cincinnati game. Hey, hashtag free hins. So
Speaker 1: obviously he didn't say it to him last week, but
Speaker 1: he told me that he's lined up to receive the kickoff,
Speaker 1: and he was thinking basically of two things. One his buddy,
Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin, and two, I got to do something. I
Speaker 1: have to do something. I have to make something happen
Speaker 1: to make sure that we honor Damar in an appropriate way.
Speaker 1: And fourteen seconds later, he's got the most famous kick
Speaker 1: returned for touchdown, maybe in NFL history, but certainly in
Speaker 1: this season and certainly in Buffalo Bills history. I just
Speaker 1: got goose bump. Sorry, just just hearing that because I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about and seeing that moment of just how they reacted.
Speaker 1: It really makes you think that you could a writer
Speaker 1: couldn't write it better in a script to open the
Speaker 1: game that way. And I encourage everyone to read that
Speaker 1: piece if you haven't read it already. Um, And obviously
Speaker 1: we're continued health and getting better for Damar Hamlin hopefully
Speaker 1: and uh maybe we'll be talking about him playing again.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move to something that's I won't say it's
Speaker 1: not as as you know, inspiring as that. But you know,
Speaker 1: the Monday after the NFL season, right, that's always like
Speaker 1: a day that, at least me as a fan, you
Speaker 1: start to see what really happens with coaches. We already
Speaker 1: saw what happened with Cliff Kingsbury, despite you know, signing
Speaker 1: his extension just ten months ago. I always find that strange,
Speaker 1: you know, you you extend someone and it doesn't even
Speaker 1: last more than twelve calendar months. Well, Jerry, how about this.
Speaker 1: He not only signed the head coach, he signed the
Speaker 1: general manager. So I mean Steve Kim and Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 1: are both signed for for a full four more seasons.
Speaker 1: So and look, there's no owner in the NFL who's
Speaker 1: looking for coins and the couch cushions too to make
Speaker 1: sure the business runs okay. But Michael Bidwill is not
Speaker 1: independently wealthy. And the Arizona Cardinals are one of those teams.
Speaker 1: It's a family run franchise, and so he's got to
Speaker 1: pay off a couple of people, and who knows what
Speaker 1: his deal is with them. And you know, if Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury gets a job somewhere, at least the money that
Speaker 1: he gets in his new place will be used to,
Speaker 1: you know, to take away some of the money the
Speaker 1: Cardinals own him. But be that as it may look,
Speaker 1: that was that was a bit of a lame brain
Speaker 1: way to run your business last offseason. And look at,
Speaker 1: you know, the guy who you really wanted. I'm not
Speaker 1: even sure that. I'm not sure that Michael bidd Will
Speaker 1: really believed in Kyler Murray, but in essence he had
Speaker 1: to do something with him, especially after he does the
Speaker 1: coach in general manager. I'm a little dubious about that franchise.
Speaker 1: I mean, here, I'll tell you the amazing thing. How
Speaker 1: about this, Just imagine this, Okay, exactly thirteen months ago,
Speaker 1: the Arizona car Ardinals were ten and two when they
Speaker 1: were the number one seed in the NFC. Wow. Since
Speaker 1: that moment, they are five and eighteen. Mm hm. They've
Speaker 1: got the worst record in the NFC since that moment.
Speaker 1: And so you ask yourself after a little while, you
Speaker 1: just ask yourself what happened, what happened exactly? And the
Speaker 1: way they ended last year too, and Kyler Murray playing
Speaker 1: such a lousy game in the playoff game against the Rams.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna segue to one thing. And
Speaker 1: it's a point I made my column this week. If
Speaker 1: you think about it, Okay, if you're the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 1: right now, you have to answer this question. Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: in each of the last two years has missed five
Speaker 1: and three quarters games because of injury. He was hurt
Speaker 1: in the first quarter of two games and then also
Speaker 1: missed five. So Lamar Jackson has missed one third of
Speaker 1: the season in each of the last two years. And
Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself this question. This is the
Speaker 1: guy who makes his business, you know, is is living
Speaker 1: with his legs, you know, as well as his arm.
Speaker 1: But he does an awful lot with his legs. Okay,
Speaker 1: and yeah, and you really mean, do you want to
Speaker 1: pay him forty five million a year for the next
Speaker 1: five years? I don't. And if I were the Ravens,
Speaker 1: quite honestly, if I were Eric Acosta the GM, I'd
Speaker 1: franchise tag him and just say we hope that you
Speaker 1: are a quarterback for the next ten years. We can't
Speaker 1: do this, we can't sign you. And so now the
Speaker 1: question is, is there a team out there, the New
Speaker 1: York Jets, the Washington Commanders, the Houston Texans. Is there
Speaker 1: a team out there that, if he gets franchised, would
Speaker 1: pay him a boatload of money, let's say forty five
Speaker 1: million a year, and would be willing to give up
Speaker 1: to number one draft picks for him. That would be
Speaker 1: one of the riskiest moves in years in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But honestly, if I were the Ravens, that's probably what
Speaker 1: I do. Going back to the Cliff Kings very part
Speaker 1: of all this. Real quick, do you think the pipeline
Speaker 1: of coaches from college that the NFL is drying up?
Speaker 1: We saw Matt Rule was fired this season. Now, Cliff,
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like the game is not translating,
Speaker 1: not that Cliff was very successful at the college level. Anyway,
Speaker 1: He's got to say that. I'll give you my just
Speaker 1: my gut feeling on this. Okay, if you look at
Speaker 1: where college coaches have bombed out, you will see that
Speaker 1: either A they have a very sketchy quarterback situation or
Speaker 1: be their quarterback did not perform consistently very well. I
Speaker 1: think Cliff Kingsbury had another problem, and that is communicating
Speaker 1: with players and with his coaches. You know, the one
Speaker 1: thing that I've heard about Kingsbury is that he's a very,
Speaker 1: very poor communicator, and you just can't be that way
Speaker 1: as a head coach in the NFL. And he had
Speaker 1: the quarterback he wanted. And it is mind boggling to me,
Speaker 1: mind boggling that in a span of twenty three games
Speaker 1: that you can lose eighteen of them, most of which
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray played. So I don't think it says that much.
Speaker 1: I've read all these stories. Don't hire a college coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you go back to Chip Kelly.
Speaker 1: He didn't work. I get it, I know, but I
Speaker 1: think a great coach is a great coach. And and look,
Speaker 1: I and I don't mean this in a negative way either.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure i'd hired Jim Harbaugh period because he's
Speaker 1: sort of an imperious guy, and I'm not sure that,
Speaker 1: especially when times get tough, tough, if they're really going
Speaker 1: to enjoy here and to win one for the Gipper speech.
Speaker 1: So I don't know about that, but I still think
Speaker 1: Olivia a smart coach, is a smart coach. There is
Speaker 1: something I would love your opinion on because this, you know,
Speaker 1: I mentioned before everyone sort of agreeing on Twitter. This
Speaker 1: is something that I've found myself like in some fun
Speaker 1: little battles over and I'm I'm gonna agree with you
Speaker 1: about the Lamar Jackson with the Jets. I'm a Giants
Speaker 1: fan from New York, so a lot of my I
Speaker 1: grew up a lot of Jacks fans. They always think
Speaker 1: they're one piece of way from being really good. This year,
Speaker 1: they actually might might have been true. They might have
Speaker 1: been a decent quarter back away from being in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I look at that Lion situation. I've been saying for
Speaker 1: a few weeks now. You know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want to give golf an extend them forty million,
Speaker 1: but to me, just as a fan, watching that team
Speaker 1: plays hard for him. He has great chemistry with the receivers.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe st. Brown would have been a
Speaker 1: good receiver no matter what. But it just seems to
Speaker 1: be working. And they have such good draft picks, like
Speaker 1: and some people on tours like they got a draft
Speaker 1: a quarterback. To me, I think that they're a lot
Speaker 1: closer than that and could build further. I guess if
Speaker 1: you're if you were running Detroit or in Detroit, how
Speaker 1: do you handle that golf situation? Now? Having the sixth
Speaker 1: pick and I guess it's sixteen or seventeen overall, it
Speaker 1: just thick that they're real close with those picks now. Absolutely, unequivocally,
Speaker 1: I'm not drafting a quarterback makes no sense. Last nine
Speaker 1: games of this season Detroit Lions seven and two, Jared
Speaker 1: Goff fifteen touchdowns, zero interceptions. It's insanity to draft a quarterback.
Speaker 1: What you do, I think with golf is you basically say, listen,
Speaker 1: we want you. He's got two years left on his
Speaker 1: contract that he signed with the Rams. Okay, he's been wildly,
Speaker 1: vastly overpaid for the first whatever three years of it.
Speaker 1: All right, so let's just see right now, let's just
Speaker 1: see the first four years of it. But let's just see.
Speaker 1: You know, his cap number in twenty three is I
Speaker 1: think thirty points seven. His cap number in twenty four
Speaker 1: is thirty one point seven. But just look at it
Speaker 1: this way. Wait until next offseason when you have complete
Speaker 1: knowledge of whether golf is your quarterback in the future,
Speaker 1: and this year, continue to build an incredibly strong roster.
Speaker 1: We're seeing it right now. You saw it with the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. And on defense, you see the pieces in
Speaker 1: place of a rising, growing team right now. You saw
Speaker 1: Josh Allen wreck the game the other day. You know
Speaker 1: the other Josh Allen, the defensive Josh d Allen. And
Speaker 1: so just if I were Detroit, you've got two picks
Speaker 1: in the top half of the round or or almost
Speaker 1: I think that's our top eighteen or something. You've got
Speaker 1: two picks. Just use that to continually build a great roster.
Speaker 1: Brad Holmes the GM, he's a smart guy. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's going to be tempted to take a quarterback
Speaker 1: this offseason. Now, let's stick with NFC North quarterbacks for
Speaker 1: a second, because maybe one that is a bit more controversial.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers again, that's my team. I would love to
Speaker 1: see a good year from Aaron Rodgers. I don't want
Speaker 1: him to stick around just to stick around. Now do
Speaker 1: you think that the hype that he left week eighteen with,
Speaker 1: and the postgame press conference and the keeping his jersey
Speaker 1: all of it, do you think it's just to keep
Speaker 1: us on our toes? And one do you think is
Speaker 1: next for Aaron Rodgers? All I know is this, Olivia.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers loves taking a needle, and he loves to
Speaker 1: take a needle and stick it in the collective ice
Speaker 1: socket of the media as a whole. He loves that.
Speaker 1: And my first thought when ten minutes after the game,
Speaker 1: we've learned two things, he told Jamal Williams, I'm not
Speaker 1: giving you my jersey, but he put his arm around
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb's shoulder walking off the field, nine thousand cameras
Speaker 1: in front of him, snapping every picture, everybody doing video
Speaker 1: of it. I just said, Aaron Rodgers, And look, I
Speaker 1: might be wrong, because I don't know. It's just what
Speaker 1: I thought. Aaron Rodgers. Maybe he knows what he's gonna do,
Speaker 1: maybe doesn't know what he's going to do, But how
Speaker 1: great is it for him to give off this aura
Speaker 1: of I am walking off the field for the last time.
Speaker 1: And then now, Olivia, you were about three years old
Speaker 1: when this happened. But in two thousand eighty, in two
Speaker 1: thousand eight, remember when Brett Farve in March basically retired
Speaker 1: even though he really didn't want to. And then two
Speaker 1: much I shouldn't say he didn't want to, he didn't
Speaker 1: know if he wanted to, and then two months later
Speaker 1: he comes back. And what I will never forget about
Speaker 1: that never forget is how Farve just simply wasn't ready
Speaker 1: to make a decision and they made him make one.
Speaker 1: I don't think Brian Gudkins and Matt Lafleur are going
Speaker 1: to make him do that. I think they'll say, we'd
Speaker 1: like to know by pick a date June. That's when
Speaker 1: we need to know. No, that's when we want to know.
Speaker 1: And look, I might be wrong, but whatever he's going
Speaker 1: to make next year would make fifty million. It's hard
Speaker 1: for me to believe, especially with two young receivers who
Speaker 1: I think he sees a bright future for both of them.
Speaker 1: You know, he'll be able to come back and ride
Speaker 1: out on his white horse if he just wants to
Speaker 1: play one more year, but this just seems a weird
Speaker 1: year for him to go out on him. I don't know, Olivia,
Speaker 1: and I don't I know. I mean, I know Aaron
Speaker 1: I talked to him, but I don't know him at all,
Speaker 1: So it's just that's just my guess. I don't know
Speaker 1: if anyone really knows him. He did say that the
Speaker 1: money doesn't matter and he would walk away. I gotta
Speaker 1: think with the Brett five story and the Aaron Rodgers story,
Speaker 1: the one common denominator is they're the only NFL team
Speaker 1: no owner, and maybe when there's not that one person
Speaker 1: you report to, it gives that player all that much
Speaker 1: more freedom when you're in this teeny tiny town and
Speaker 1: you're basically the pope there. I mean, but you know what, hey, Olivia,
Speaker 1: remember in two thousand eight, Ted Thompson was the potent
Speaker 1: tape he was he was making those decisions. Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: was a young head coach at the time, and I
Speaker 1: will never forget, Olivia. I sat in Brett Farve's house
Speaker 1: in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. Yeah, I did, on the Saturday night
Speaker 1: before he ended up going back to Green Bay and
Speaker 1: trying kind of in a nice way to force the issue.
Speaker 1: And I remember on that Saturday night, his agent, Buzz
Speaker 1: Cook was also in the house. It was him, Deanna,
Speaker 1: his wife, and and Buzz Cook and me, And he
Speaker 1: asked Buzz what he thought, and he goes, oh, they'll cave,
Speaker 1: They'll I'll give in to you, because he Brett wanted
Speaker 1: to be released and go play for the Vikings. And
Speaker 1: and he said, Peter, what do you think? And I said, hey,
Speaker 1: I don't know. He said, all I know is that
Speaker 1: I was on the phone with Ted Thompson and McCarthy
Speaker 1: the other day and I just want you to know
Speaker 1: that if Ted Thompson releases you, you're gonna sign with Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson will be hung in ashwabin On. I mean
Speaker 1: he won't be able to show his face in this town.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm serious. And and I said you, if
Speaker 1: I were you, I would say, Okay, which team would
Speaker 1: I be okay playing for? I may not love it,
Speaker 1: but which team would I be okay playing for? And
Speaker 1: then the Jets are the Bucks and then really play
Speaker 1: and try to stick it up their rear end. And
Speaker 1: that's essentially what he ended up doing. He played one
Speaker 1: year with the Jets, and then two with the Vikings
Speaker 1: and for all those people. I remember at the time,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Farve will never be able to go
Speaker 1: back in town because he was in the Purple and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I said, you know what, I remember
Speaker 1: seeing Jerry Rice at the end going hat in hand,
Speaker 1: going to try out for every team he could. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, he's ruining his legacies. This, that and the
Speaker 1: other thing. Jerry Rice walks on the field at a
Speaker 1: forty Niners game now and people genuflect, they absolutely love him.
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with Five. I always knew,
Speaker 1: and look this latest thing, who knows what will happen,
Speaker 1: But I always knew that five would be able to
Speaker 1: go back and people would love him because of what
Speaker 1: he accomplished on the field. I know. We got to
Speaker 1: get you going, Peter, and thank you so much for
Speaker 1: a time. Last quick thing before you go. Is there
Speaker 1: any team underdog going into this weekend that you see
Speaker 1: has a chance to maybe pull an upset? A chance?
Speaker 1: I'm not saying make a prediction, a chance the best Well,
Speaker 1: the question is, I don't know what the and I
Speaker 1: know I should know the odds being on this podcast,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what they're like. Look, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that the Ravens, even with Lamar, who
Speaker 1: certainly won't be I don't see the Ravens going into
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and winning that game. I can definitely see Dallas
Speaker 1: going in and winning in Tampa, but I think that's
Speaker 1: really a coin flip because the Cowboys every other week
Speaker 1: in the last month they have stunk it up. So
Speaker 1: you tell me who's going to show up Monday night
Speaker 1: in Tampa. I kind of like the Jaguars to beat
Speaker 1: the Chargers, but is that really an upset? I don't know.
Speaker 1: End the one team, even though it seems odd to
Speaker 1: say this, Seattle knows the forty Niners so well, and
Speaker 1: they've played them every ten minutes. It see, you're always
Speaker 1: looking up, and it seems like once a month Seattle
Speaker 1: and the Niners are playing, and they've got this history
Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll knows that franchise. I don't think Seattle
Speaker 1: is gonna win that game. But that is the game
Speaker 1: of every game this weekend. That probably intrigues me the most.
Speaker 1: And don't you find it weird, honestly, how the NFL
Speaker 1: scheduled these games. It's the first game that Seahawks Niners
Speaker 1: the first one up in Santa Clara, California. It'll be
Speaker 1: on a muddy track probably with all the white rain
Speaker 1: on the West Coast right now. And the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: To me, I mean, if you ask me right now,
Speaker 1: give me your power rankings. Top two teams in the
Speaker 1: league to me are the forty Niners and the Bengals.
Speaker 1: And the forty Niners are a two seed and they've
Speaker 1: got the They've got the first game of the weekend
Speaker 1: at four thirty on Saturday afternoon. This is the game
Speaker 1: that's regularly reserved for Jackson Bailey Houston, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: and it's the forty Niners. And I kept thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: this is such a weird thing to me. And then
Speaker 1: how about on Sunday the first game is the Bills.
Speaker 1: You know, they're like the New America's team with Damar Hamlin.
Speaker 1: And I just I don't know the scheduling this week.
Speaker 1: And first of all, there's no game that is absolutely
Speaker 1: must see. There just isn't. But I think the whole
Speaker 1: thing is it's just, uh, it's gonna be an odd weekend.
Speaker 1: Some will happen, two or three good things will happen
Speaker 1: to make it fun. But it's just an odd collection
Speaker 1: to me of six games where the only real million
Speaker 1: people watching the game I think is Dallas and Tampa
Speaker 1: because look, you know, if the Dallas Cowboys were on
Speaker 1: TV painting a house, you to get a crowd, to
Speaker 1: get an audience, and twenty million, so they're going to
Speaker 1: get a huge number for that game. Plus it could
Speaker 1: be Brady's last game. But even that, the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: been crappy and the Bucks every other week just lay
Speaker 1: a gigantic egg. I don't know. I mean, who knows.
Speaker 1: It could be a fantastic game, but that's probably the
Speaker 1: game of the weekend and we're gonna have to wait
Speaker 1: a long time for it. Peter King, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We have taken up too much of your time. You
Speaker 1: have stories galore, and we'd love to get you back
Speaker 1: on here because we just barely scratched the surface anytime.
Speaker 1: Olivia really appreciated. Good being on me to Jerry. Thank
Speaker 1: you great, great having you. Peter, thank you again. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been very busy doing my homework, Garry. I have
Speaker 1: been binging Entourage. I finished season five finally and started
Speaker 1: season six. I'm like really in the weeds. Like when
Speaker 1: I think about the hours I've spent watching this show,
Speaker 1: it has been such a treat. Like I've told you before,
Speaker 1: I'm so late to the party. One thing that Hugh
Speaker 1: told me was going to happen in season six is
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you start morphine into the Jerry
Speaker 1: that looks more like I see now, Like you get
Speaker 1: really skinny in episode one of season six. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the thing with and that's how HBO kind of moved
Speaker 1: back then. I think they still moved like that. Similarly,
Speaker 1: there was always a pretty good break in between seasons, right,
Speaker 1: sometimes upward of like eight months, depending on how long
Speaker 1: things took or got pushed back. So think about what
Speaker 1: you could do in eight minutes. So towards the end
Speaker 1: of season five, I started to get all my little
Speaker 1: fitness journey, and because I just turned thirty years old,
Speaker 1: I wanted to just really start to feel better. And
Speaker 1: then I had eight months off and didn't work a
Speaker 1: ton in those eight months, and yeah, I lost like
Speaker 1: forty five pounds. Forty five pounds, and is it going
Speaker 1: to keep falling off? Every episode? I mean, by season seven,
Speaker 1: they start making skinny jokes about me, Okay, so far
Speaker 1: no one's addressed it, like it's not in the dialogue
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, it's not. Again, I think at this
Speaker 1: point I think maybe you're early on season six, I
Speaker 1: think I was maybe like twenty five down. So by
Speaker 1: the end of season six, I think I'm I lose
Speaker 1: like forty five and then coming back to season seven,
Speaker 1: it was a clean sixty. Season seven, I think I
Speaker 1: was or maybe it's eight. I don't even remember. I
Speaker 1: was like at four pounds. A character on the show
Speaker 1: I'm loving at this stage of the show is your mom.
Speaker 1: And I'm curious how much of the hometown that you
Speaker 1: guys go back to the neighborhood you guys are in
Speaker 1: and your mom's Vince's mom and your mom who are
Speaker 1: really great character is great color. I'm curious how similar
Speaker 1: that is to where you actually grew up in the situation,
Speaker 1: Like is that how your mom talks? So you know,
Speaker 1: I remember back then the actress Camio Savola, who was amazing,
Speaker 1: who played my mom. She did recently or maybe within
Speaker 1: the last few years. I know she passed away unfortunately,
Speaker 1: but she was like on Broadway. She was like a
Speaker 1: real deal baller actress. I do remember my mom wanted
Speaker 1: to play the part of my mom, and this was
Speaker 1: like the joke. I didn't actually like she did an audition,
Speaker 1: but I gave like I would protect, like we'd practice it.
Speaker 1: And let's just say, I don't think I get my
Speaker 1: acting ability from my mom. Let's just say that. So
Speaker 1: my mom, if you ask her about that, she jokingly
Speaker 1: doesn't think the performance is authentic at all and thinks
Speaker 1: she would have been way better. Doug did a really
Speaker 1: good job, Doug Ellen, capturing I grew up in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: but that part of Queen's where you know, it was
Speaker 1: a real community, just walking each other's houses, and my
Speaker 1: friend's parents were allowed to like discipline me if they
Speaker 1: caught me acting up when I was a kid. Like
Speaker 1: the whole neighborhood really kept an eye out on each other,
Speaker 1: so very very close to what I grew up. Like now,
Speaker 1: a part of this whole thing, when you guys go
Speaker 1: back to New York in your home is a phone
Speaker 1: sex scene. What your mom interrupts and yells. And I
Speaker 1: was just thinking, my god, to uh to see that
Speaker 1: written and read it in the table, read to then
Speaker 1: rehearse it and do the scene and then have your
Speaker 1: parents watch it. I mean, walk me through this, because
Speaker 1: that's very awkward. I imagine listen. I think in total
Speaker 1: with Entourage, I had like two or three sort of
Speaker 1: either like sex scenes or just kind of like hook
Speaker 1: up scenes at first. Of all the worst they are
Speaker 1: the worst. I'm sorry. Whatever you think out there listening
Speaker 1: like I must be. It is not cool. It's not fun.
Speaker 1: It's not like it's stressful, and you just wanted to
Speaker 1: be over quickly. And luckily for me, I that was
Speaker 1: that was not something like you see the amount of
Speaker 1: stuff Adrian would have to do played Vince versus me,
Speaker 1: I didn't really have to worry, but of course you
Speaker 1: started getting in more shaped and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you're a love interest and now you have to do
Speaker 1: that stuff more. It always was rough watching all those
Speaker 1: scenes at the premiere with our families. Fortunately, the one
Speaker 1: you're talking about, the phone call one like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: wasn't my favorite, but at least it was on the phone.
Speaker 1: No one else was there. I didn't have to worry
Speaker 1: about how my breath smells or anything like that, but terrified,
Speaker 1: like if I never had to do one of those
Speaker 1: scenes for the rest of my career. I would be like, great,
Speaker 1: sign me up, and what do I have to do
Speaker 1: to not do that again? When you get married, do
Speaker 1: you and your spouse have rules about that? You know,
Speaker 1: my wife isn't isn't actress as well, So I mean
Speaker 1: there's no rules, like but there is obviously like like yeah,
Speaker 1: like you just the rule is the same way you'd
Speaker 1: be with your other co star, like just it's just
Speaker 1: gonna be as professional as possible. Again, there's dozens and
Speaker 1: dozens of people around watching, Uh so like yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think we have rules, but I guess the
Speaker 1: rule would be just like don't hide it, like you know,
Speaker 1: if you have to go do a scene like that,
Speaker 1: help me leave that party out of the description, like hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: this cool movie where I'm a cop and I jump
Speaker 1: over a car and I shoot people that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's this like giant like crazy sexy and I'm
Speaker 1: in don't leave that part out, I would say, is
Speaker 1: the rule don't surprise them with that. I've always wondered
Speaker 1: that about acting and if it's about and that actually
Speaker 1: comes up in Entraage with Ari and his wife when
Speaker 1: she come back to do what days of our lives
Speaker 1: or something. Okay, last question at where I'm at. You
Speaker 1: guys go on Leno or Vince goes on Leno, and
Speaker 1: you guys all know there. How do you do that?
Speaker 1: Because that's actually in a couple of movies, whether it's
Speaker 1: Balin or whoever. Like these guys who host these late
Speaker 1: night talk shows, they clearly are open to doing this,
Speaker 1: and I'm always curious do they do it like right
Speaker 1: before their actual taping of their show, so that the
Speaker 1: audience is there? How do you how do you do that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So the first time we ever really did it, and
Speaker 1: in my opinion, it was like I think of the
Speaker 1: early early episodes, it was the episode that I think
Speaker 1: everyone figured out this is what the show is. If
Speaker 1: you remember in season one we all go on Vince
Speaker 1: goes on the Jimmy Kimmel Show. This was like season
Speaker 1: one of Jimmy Kimmel. He has now been on for
Speaker 1: like twenty five years or whatever. This was so early
Speaker 1: on and with that we film right before. And I
Speaker 1: think similarly with Leno, Yeah, you either go because they
Speaker 1: taped those shows at three o'clock in the afternoon, you know,
Speaker 1: and and the audience is in, so I either think
Speaker 1: it was. I think it was probably after their show
Speaker 1: because they want to keep the studio audience there as well.
Speaker 1: And then you just run in and do your thing.
Speaker 1: Your goal with that is to be at least intrusive
Speaker 1: as possible. So because everyone's there working, Like imagine if
Speaker 1: someone came right now like, hey, we're gonna do this
Speaker 1: other show on your podcast real quick, give me your
Speaker 1: mis will be done in a half hour, it's like
Speaker 1: all right, but yeah, Jay was great that day and
Speaker 1: he was super down to play around and have fun
Speaker 1: with it, and yeah, we'll just hung out at the
Speaker 1: at the tonight show for you know, two hours. I
Speaker 1: love it and I love the evolution of Turtle. It's
Speaker 1: such a joy to watch. And again I watched with
Speaker 1: my baby and I'm like, look, there's uncle Jerry having
Speaker 1: fun sex. Yeah as uncle Jerry. Yeah, you got some
Speaker 1: more fun stuff coming up with season season six in
Speaker 1: the category of what you were talking about, like significant
Speaker 1: other having to do some racing scenes. That comes up more.
Speaker 1: I don't think you've gotten to that yet. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so stay tuned, all right. Now that the regular season
Speaker 1: is over, it's onto the playoffs, which is going to
Speaker 1: make this part of the show, even more of my
Speaker 1: favorite part because it's the playoffs and let's let's keep
Speaker 1: making money and let's bring in our odds on favorite
Speaker 1: bet MGM betting analyst Peter Andrew. First time I'm talking
Speaker 1: to you in Happy New Year, buddy. How has been
Speaker 1: treating you so far? Betting wise? Yeah? So, uh NFL
Speaker 1: has been great so far. I had a great last week.
Speaker 1: I cashed in on a couple of big props. Week
Speaker 1: eighteen is the big prop week because everybody's trying to
Speaker 1: hit that number, get that extra incentive and that bonus.
Speaker 1: And I think specifically I got lucky with the Dolphins
Speaker 1: covering because that late safety, and then I had Niners
Speaker 1: big they blew out Cardinals out of the wall or so.
Speaker 1: So it was good there. But to wrap up the
Speaker 1: night of I was with our friend Olivia here in
Speaker 1: London on New Year's even I think we just lost
Speaker 1: every single college bet so College Semifinals, National Championship on Monday.
Speaker 1: We just we lost them all. So we're in a
Speaker 1: we're in a dark spot right now. It seems like
Speaker 1: I say, it's a little bit of money by not
Speaker 1: coming on that trip, between air fare and what I
Speaker 1: would have lost betting with you and Peter. I feel
Speaker 1: like I saved myself a little money not being in
Speaker 1: London for New Year's and the drink tab well that
Speaker 1: that would have definitely not paid for. I would have
Speaker 1: tried to get out of our We're not far away
Speaker 1: from Arizona though, so don't count yourself out yet. There's
Speaker 1: still money to be lost or made in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. All right. Before we get into it too,
Speaker 1: I just want to point out you are wearing a
Speaker 1: very fancy Durrell hat for our golfers out there. You
Speaker 1: played durraw right, which is of course it is a
Speaker 1: dream course. I've been dying to play Durrell. Also, I
Speaker 1: will point out golf really fun sport to bet on.
Speaker 1: I had some golf bets over the weekend that I lost.
Speaker 1: We will talk about that. How did you play a draw?
Speaker 1: Real quick? So I shot well relative ninety four there
Speaker 1: from the blues, which is eight hundred yards. It's off
Speaker 1: course and on your golf point of betting, we've got
Speaker 1: some fun stuff from the golf angles, so lots to
Speaker 1: talk about as the season starts to kick off, as
Speaker 1: we get towards the players in March. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: some really cool stuff for you guys on Betam Jim.
Speaker 1: If you haven't even just just start looking. I know
Speaker 1: it's early in the golf season, now just start taking
Speaker 1: the loo because as you get closer to the majors,
Speaker 1: it gets really fun. But we're gonna We're gonna go
Speaker 1: into now something we know is proven and true to
Speaker 1: be fun, which is betting on the NFL Playoffs in
Speaker 1: the Divisional Round. So, Peter Andrew, what are you thinking
Speaker 1: for this Divisional Round week? Yeah? So I got three bets.
Speaker 1: I'll start with the simplest one. First, Bengals minus six
Speaker 1: and a half. I think Bengals are peaking at the
Speaker 1: right time. They look amazing, and you've got a Ravens
Speaker 1: team that's really interesting right now. Lamar should be back
Speaker 1: this weekend Sunday Night Football, but he's coming back missing
Speaker 1: over a month, a lot of questions, Dobbin's health, Mark Andrews,
Speaker 1: a lot of guys on the defensive side. I just
Speaker 1: don't know where we're gonna get out of them. So
Speaker 1: I'm taking the points six and a half Bengals. I
Speaker 1: think they're in cruise control this first game. To me,
Speaker 1: They're one of the four best teams probably in the NFL,
Speaker 1: so I like them there to cover. I've got four units,
Speaker 1: so forty dollars to win, seventy six dollars there to
Speaker 1: cover that spread. That's first off. I don't know, Jerry,
Speaker 1: where's your head at? There? As an Ohio better now
Speaker 1: now that we're live in bet MGM and in the
Speaker 1: great state Ohio. Oh and let me tell you, let
Speaker 1: me tell you bet MGM, you got Ohio. I was
Speaker 1: at a poker game this week. A lot of bad
Speaker 1: Browns takes. I think a lot of Brown's bands, like
Speaker 1: the Browns are beating the Steelers this week when we've
Speaker 1: been betting them on bet MGM while we were playing poker,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a terrible bet. The Browns are not
Speaker 1: beating the Steelers. But uh, I'm with you. I think Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: I you know, I always get nervous with harbas a
Speaker 1: coach because he's so gritty and that team is gritty.
Speaker 1: But I just don't think you could bet on Baltimore.
Speaker 1: So if you are gonna put some acts on the game,
Speaker 1: I just think it has to sway in the Bengals way.
Speaker 1: And I think that no, I would love it a
Speaker 1: lot more at six, but six and a half I
Speaker 1: still think seven and over is a good number. So
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. And for you to win
Speaker 1: seventies six is is sweet. Yeah. Absolutely, So that's four
Speaker 1: you and it's there. You've got six left. Cool, so
Speaker 1: little home cooking for each, for each of us, for
Speaker 1: me and for you here first, I'll start with me.
Speaker 1: Niners four thirty game Eastern on Saturday against the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: against your Seahawks. Niners are one of those teams. I
Speaker 1: don't even want to say they're peaking right now. They've
Speaker 1: won ten in a all, they've been peeking. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Brock Purdy, Trey Lance, Jimmy g I mean, the team
Speaker 1: is just so well rounded. I think what you're seeing
Speaker 1: them with Brock Purdy, he's developed really good kind of
Speaker 1: one in two options with McCaffrey and Kittle. Kittle was
Speaker 1: played probably as good as Travis Kelsey these last four
Speaker 1: or five games with Purdy, you know, behind center. So
Speaker 1: I've got both of them to score in any time touchdown.
Speaker 1: So both McCaffrey Kittle, I got Niners on an all spread,
Speaker 1: mind a six and a half just to buy myself
Speaker 1: a couple of points there from the time that it
Speaker 1: currently is and then over forty two and a half points.
Speaker 1: I mean, you saw what the Niners it to the
Speaker 1: Cardinals last week, thirty eight points I think within three quarters.
Speaker 1: Then they brought in all their backups. That offense is legit, obviously,
Speaker 1: that defense is legit. Defensive Player of the Year Nick Bosa.
Speaker 1: I think it's been taken down on most books now
Speaker 1: because it's pretty much a lock. You've got a team
Speaker 1: that just can do everything right. I think they come
Speaker 1: through this round looking really good, and there they'll be
Speaker 1: focused on divisional round pretty shortly. And a couple of
Speaker 1: things and maybe this is I'm sorry, no one was
Speaker 1: on Seattle more than I have been this year. What
Speaker 1: do you think that spread is? Right now? You have
Speaker 1: the all spread, but right now it's nine ers us
Speaker 1: nine and minus nine and a half. What do you
Speaker 1: think that spread is if it was the Lions rolling
Speaker 1: into town, I have it at like six and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think probably for Lions and Packers, you're probably looking
Speaker 1: at something similar around there. But with the Hawks where
Speaker 1: they're at, yeah, it's probably three point and and last
Speaker 1: thing on your Kiddle anytime to the one like, say
Speaker 1: what you want about Brock Purty, Deniers won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Brock Purty is undefeated and it's Super Bowl champion. That
Speaker 1: would be unprecedented to say he would be an undefeated
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion rookie quarterback. But also the one thing
Speaker 1: he has done that for some reason, Jimmy g was
Speaker 1: not able to do. And maybe it's not his fault.
Speaker 1: He unlocked Kittle whatever it was, or maybe Kittle got
Speaker 1: healthy at the right time. But whatever it is, say
Speaker 1: what you want about brock Party. He knows he has
Speaker 1: instant chemistry with George Kittle. Maybe that's not that hard
Speaker 1: because Kittle is great. So I like that best. That's
Speaker 1: what thirty to units there. Yep, okay, love it and
Speaker 1: you got you got three remaining a little bit of
Speaker 1: dog parlay. Here two teams that I think very well
Speaker 1: could win this weekend Jags at home against the Chargers,
Speaker 1: and then you're New York Football Giants going into Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I am not buying this Minnesota team right now. They
Speaker 1: are the worst defense in the league. Giants are kind
Speaker 1: of clicking at the right time. Outside of just Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones and s Kwon, Slayton, Richie James JR. Hodgens. I
Speaker 1: think you know they are not one A wide receivers.
Speaker 1: They're all finding ways to win and finding ways to
Speaker 1: to contribute into their offense. I think they're gonna put
Speaker 1: up points, and I think Vikings are gonna have to
Speaker 1: put up thirty points for this to be a game.
Speaker 1: It's probably a close one. I wouldn't say the Giants
Speaker 1: are gonna blaw him out or I don't think the
Speaker 1: Vikings can either. But I think it's gonna come down
Speaker 1: to the fourth quarter and who just makes that last
Speaker 1: play to win the game. As it goes for the Jags,
Speaker 1: you're finally seeing a college playoff. Trevor Lawrence. He is
Speaker 1: the top five, top seven quarterback this year just performance metrics.
Speaker 1: He's played really well. He's running the ball. I think
Speaker 1: his one fault has probably just gotta keep the ball
Speaker 1: and not fumble it. I think he has nine fumbles
Speaker 1: this year, which is concerning. But a Chargers team that
Speaker 1: seems very inconsistent. Some weeks, they look like they can
Speaker 1: put up thirty five at will, and often times they're
Speaker 1: putting up two touchdowns. So I like Jags at home
Speaker 1: I just I think this is a really important game
Speaker 1: for them, probably their first home playoff game and probably
Speaker 1: five six years since they lost the Pats a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, since Mark Brunel. Oh no, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Blake boards out a home playoff game, right. I
Speaker 1: think it's that board right before they lost the Paths
Speaker 1: and then if the championship. But but I think it's
Speaker 1: a important game for them, and and the Chargers just
Speaker 1: are not who we thought they were, probably early in
Speaker 1: the season when we all we were doing is bragging
Speaker 1: about the a f C West So and Olivia jump
Speaker 1: in here, go ahead, get in Olivia. Well, I was
Speaker 1: curious what you're gonna say about Charges Jags, because this
Speaker 1: one I could see going either way. I mean, Jacks
Speaker 1: such a good story right on the rise, great for
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson after all the drama turmoil, they finished on
Speaker 1: a five game win streak, defense much better. Chargers make
Speaker 1: me a little bit nervous with, you know, playing their
Speaker 1: starters in that final game where it didn't feel like
Speaker 1: they had too as long as they did. I think
Speaker 1: that was a little controversial, and I mean Jacksonville, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of played it smart. Winning the
Speaker 1: a f C South and invested in the right positions
Speaker 1: like the receiving corps, Christian kirk Za Jones. They made
Speaker 1: really smart offseason moves, and um, I just can't believe
Speaker 1: we're talking about Jacksonville right now. You know, listen to
Speaker 1: further that point. Olivia too, I was gonna say what
Speaker 1: the Jags don't I'm not getting old by the fact
Speaker 1: that they almost lost two Dobbs and the Titans, because
Speaker 1: to me, in a win and you're in game, Rabel
Speaker 1: is one of the few coaches I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: see in that scenario. I think Vrabel as a coach
Speaker 1: and how he talks to that team gets that you
Speaker 1: have to kill them to win. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what the Jaguars did. They want That is a tough,
Speaker 1: tough game to win, because of the coach, because of
Speaker 1: those players. So I don't sleep on that win. Even
Speaker 1: though they escaped with a win, that's not the right word.
Speaker 1: I think you have to kill the Titans to end
Speaker 1: their season. So I feel good about the Jacks too.
Speaker 1: I don't like that the Giants are now like a
Speaker 1: thing and people are talking don't sleep on Kenny Golladay
Speaker 1: caught a late touchdown in that game. Nothing would be
Speaker 1: more deble ish than if he just put Kenny Golladay
Speaker 1: on the bench because he had the wrong attitude and
Speaker 1: now he's gonna unleash him in the playoffs. That that's
Speaker 1: my unleashed unleashed Kenny Golladay. Please eighteen million a year,
Speaker 1: unleash him. I saw tweet he needed to get his
Speaker 1: like bonus, it's brilliant. But yeah, I hear you. And
Speaker 1: I think the Giants are a hot pick this week
Speaker 1: because where they've kind of gone and starters, I mean
Speaker 1: no starters played basically the other day and they looked
Speaker 1: really good versus an Eagles team that was playing everybody.
Speaker 1: But but I think it's more about the Vikings. I
Speaker 1: think they just cannot stop a nosebleed on defense. I
Speaker 1: mean we've seen it multiple times where they're given up
Speaker 1: thirty plus points. Giants are clicking at the right time
Speaker 1: and back just last point on on the Jags. I
Speaker 1: think beating the Titans is a playoff type win where
Speaker 1: it's a gritty win. They played awful in the first
Speaker 1: half the Jags, but their defense is no joke and
Speaker 1: they kept they kept Titans pretty in check in the
Speaker 1: second half, and that's ultimately how they were able to win.
Speaker 1: So so you're starting to see the playoff football week
Speaker 1: before they started, and I think they they hopefully continue
Speaker 1: that going into this week. Did we give the odds
Speaker 1: on that you have that three units? That's what three
Speaker 1: thirty to win one thirty eight? Right? Yeah? Sorry, so
Speaker 1: thirty to win one thirty eight. There so a nice
Speaker 1: little hefty pay out. There's both technically underdogs. I think
Speaker 1: the Jags are probably minus one of five, it's basically
Speaker 1: a pick him right now, and the Giants being plus three.
Speaker 1: It's a decent plus one and change. So yeah, thirty
Speaker 1: two eight. There's gotta be some dogs winning somewhere, and
Speaker 1: I don't see it in these massive spread games. I
Speaker 1: don't see the Dolphins coming close to the Bills, don't
Speaker 1: see the Seahawks coming close to the Niners. A lot
Speaker 1: of question marks around teams that probably aren't built for
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Do you see it with our one playoff
Speaker 1: home dog? Because I might see a little something there
Speaker 1: are one playoff home dog, Tampa Bay. I just I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a little sprinkle, a little sprinkle on Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: Just maybe to make that game a little more interesting
Speaker 1: than it might be. Yeah, I think Dallas is probably
Speaker 1: on the downfall at the wrong time, So I like
Speaker 1: Tampa there. That was one I was considering putting in
Speaker 1: the picks. Dallas looks strange right now, but then against
Speaker 1: so does Tampa. I mean Dallas could win by forty
Speaker 1: Campa could win by tampas the strangest. I think Tampa
Speaker 1: is the strangest. The strangest, uh relatively good team or
Speaker 1: some playoff team. I should say there's a lot of
Speaker 1: stranger teams at the bottom that could beat anyone, Olivia,
Speaker 1: anything else. On this play. I think you've got a
Speaker 1: good card, Pete. I might emulate a lot from this card.
Speaker 1: I want to wish everyone good luck in the divisional round.
Speaker 1: It's time to playoff. Like, grow your playoff beer, do
Speaker 1: your playoff hair, get your seat, whatever you gotta wear,
Speaker 1: whatever you do. That's, you know, a little superstitious. It's
Speaker 1: time for such superstitions. Do you have a specific playoff jersey,
Speaker 1: regardless you're rocking it. I am so weird about this.
Speaker 1: I do not rock my team's color and logos on
Speaker 1: game day. I just it's never work when if I
Speaker 1: wear a Giant shirt, they lose. If I wear a
Speaker 1: Knick shirt, they lose. So I actually have worn opposite
Speaker 1: like if we're if I swear more with basketball, but
Speaker 1: like I've worn Eagle socks when the Giants are playing
Speaker 1: the Eagle. I I don't. Something weird happens when I
Speaker 1: rock my team colors. It does not work out for me.
Speaker 1: Will you assume Niners make the Super Bowl? Will you
Speaker 1: rock und red for me? No? Absolutely not, kind of
Speaker 1: respect that incident. I mean, you don't need like, what
Speaker 1: do you need it? I'll rock red because they'll be
Speaker 1: playing the Chiefs again, so I'll wear some red. That's uh,
Speaker 1: that's I think that's the matchup. I don't think anybody's
Speaker 1: beating the Chiefs. So all right, well, good luck Pete.
Speaker 1: Thanks for uh yeah, I like your car. Thanks for three.
Speaker 1: Now let's let's get off on the right foot. Here
Speaker 1: now is where it counts. So thank you, Peter, Andrew
Speaker 1: and Olivia. I think that's gonna do it for us
Speaker 1: on this amazing divisional round that we have going in.
Speaker 1: Good luck to you. Just look at the divisional round.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you have to go in. I know
Speaker 1: you said you might wait for the super Bowl, but
Speaker 1: just just peruse, give it a look, and then we'll
Speaker 1: get us ready for the super Bowl. The one that
Speaker 1: has my attention right now, after we've talked more about it,
Speaker 1: is Bill's Dolphins and Peter. Just to catch you up. Earlier,
Speaker 1: Jerry was saying, take it now before the number goes up.
Speaker 1: I think right now it's at ten. Taking the bills
Speaker 1: to cover it is now ten and a half and half,
Speaker 1: and there's I mean, there's what a ten percent chance
Speaker 1: that to have starts if it's Skyler Thompson or Petty
Speaker 1: two Gloves. Okay, all right, see him back in already
Speaker 1: I thought she's back in. It's like losing I know.
Speaker 1: Also I think everyone else is back in. And don't
Speaker 1: forget to subscribe to the bed MGM at least podcast
Speaker 1: YouTube page where you could see our lovely mugs and
Speaker 1: watch this all happen in front of you and in
Speaker 1: you know, in visual form. We are visual people. At times,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to do with myself at
Speaker 1: the playoffs here week eighteen too many weeks. So let's
Speaker 1: get to the good stuff. Thank you everyone for listening.
Speaker 1: Shout outs to our other podcast guests who be here
Speaker 1: with you, Olivia, best guests we've ever had. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, this is one of those times I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people with kids can understand where you're
Speaker 1: just trying to make it work, and I have an
Speaker 1: eight month old dictators just kind of messing up our
Speaker 1: whole show right now. So if you are watching, you've
Speaker 1: probably noticed me looking down at the floor and trying
Speaker 1: to pull things out of his hands the whole time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, my little babies is doing as a live
Speaker 1: studio audience at all. It was an amazing performance, uh,
Speaker 1: and hopefully you'll have an amazing performance this weekend. Good
Speaker 1: luck everybody, and we will catch you next week. H