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What's up, guys, We're back again on 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: the Lights Out podcast with me Shawn Merriman. Uh today, man, 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: this is awesome because this this guy is steaming hot 22 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: right now fresh off of two thousand twenty NASCAR Cup Series. 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: Chase Elliott, Um, you know, I just remember and as 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: you guys know, I've been around NASCAR since two thousand 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: and eight, but I also remember in its earlier years. Um, 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: you can see the potential and you can hear the talks, 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: but there was a lot of up and downs. Obviously, 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: his dad is an absolute legend with big fan of 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: him growing up, but we get into it today. Man, 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: we talked about a lot um, you know, not just 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: his dad, but also the real MVP his mom and 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: support that she's given him and being able to have 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: both his parents there there with him when when he 34 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: when he won. I thought that was pretty cool. Um. 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Also we get into the inspection failure and some of 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: the things that we're going through his head. Then, um, 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: what tracks? You know, he's gonna tell us what tracks 38 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: he's always had a problem with, or uh, you know, 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: just his nemesis. You know, I bring up the fact 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: that I never beat Tom Brady while I was a 41 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: charger and still to this day that that gets into 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: my skin. So what track does uh get under? Chase 43 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Elliot skin the most, so we get into it, man, 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: and I appreciate his time because, like I said, he 45 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: is super busy right now and and on fire, and 46 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: big congratulations to him. Chase Elliott, Yo, what's up my man? 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm good? How you doing great? You know? It has 48 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: to it has to be like a whirlwind, right, Uh, 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: everything that's been happening lately. And I guess you know 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: one thing. One one of the things I get I 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: kind of regret early on in my career when I 52 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: was having a lot of accolades and success, Like everything 53 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: get thrown at you right, everybody want to talk to 54 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: you. You You got these interviews, your pr setting you up, 55 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: these signings. You gotta basically be everywhere, and you don't 56 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: take time to sink in has everything sunk in yet? 57 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: That that this what's been happening? Would you win it? Um? 58 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: A little bit? I guess here and there. I've been 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: been very busy, I'll be honest, since you know Sunday night, 60 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: so UM, I haven't had a ton of that, you know, 61 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: just time of doing nothing um yet, but certainly have 62 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: been enjoying everything that has come along with uh, with 63 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: the championship and and all the experiences. I mean stuff 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: like this included. I mean, you know, I don't typically 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: like doing media, um, but you know, this is one 66 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: of those things where it's like, yeah, man, like let's 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: do it, you know, talk about it, enjoy it. Probably 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: the only time I'm ever that optimistic and excited about it. 69 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: So I've really been on and just enjoying all the aspects, 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: which which part of you hate the most? Like like 71 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: I don't get me wrong, you love you know, showing 72 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: up to certain things and the opportunities right because this 73 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: you winning opens up even more doors and you already 74 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: had what I mean, people want to talk to You've 75 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: got all these people just throwing these things at you. Well, 76 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: to you, what's the what's the part about you hate 77 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: the most? Is it? Yeah? What is it? Man? I 78 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: don't know. There's honestly not much I've I've hated about this, 79 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: this uh situation, you know, to just being frank, there's 80 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: really really happn't been. It's been you know, nothing, just 81 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of support, a lot of 82 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: love and um, you know a lot of a lot 83 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: of great people you know reaching out and showing you know, 84 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: and expressing their congratulations, which is really cool and um yeah, 85 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: I've never never gone through this really to this level. 86 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: So it's been been a fun experience and something new 87 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. You know. Speaking of those 88 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: great people, Well, one of my longtime friends, Jimmy Johnson, 89 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: when when you want man to see that him you know, 90 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: coming over and congratulating into support and you're one of 91 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: the things that you know, outside of Jimmy being a 92 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: San Diego guy, you know I played for the Charges, uh, 93 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: just him being like all around great dude. Man. When 94 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: I've seen that, I was like, man, that is super 95 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: cool because it's it's it's really rare to see something 96 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: like that. Man. He he's such a good dude to men, 97 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: as you know, if you've known him for that long. 98 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean just i mean his on track stuff is amazing, right, 99 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: it kind of speaks for itself. But you know, he's 100 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: said such a good example outside the car with how 101 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: he handles everything. I feel like it's just with the 102 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: absolute pinnacle of class and integrity and the way he 103 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: is with his family and and and everything too is 104 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: just the ultimate example. I mean, I'm not sure there's 105 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: a a better champion um than than him. So very cool. 106 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: Have have you taken anything, um, you know from his 107 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: career and what he's done and applied it at all 108 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: because I know for me early on coming in being 109 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: a rookie, you got some of the vets and people 110 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: have been around and want to help you and will 111 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: take their time and sit down and coach you and 112 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: and and spend the extra time that they don't have to. 113 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: But then you have some of him, like, yeah, this 114 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: kid could be taking much my my place right, he 115 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: could be be next to me. I mean, is it's 116 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: some of the things you've taken from jim You've got 117 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to him about over your over 118 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: your career. Yeah, you know, well I think a lot 119 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: of a lot of things. And the cool thing about 120 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: that is he's been he's been a supporter for a 121 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: long time. And I kind of grew up in it. 122 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: Obviously my dad raced and so I didn't have a 123 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: chance to meet Jimmy at a young age. And he 124 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: has been nothing but supportive for for many years prior 125 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: to the NASCAR thing, and even some of the steps 126 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: along the way, he would send me a message and 127 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, show his support, which is really cool. 128 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: Made for a young kid, I mean coming along and 129 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: have a guy like that reach out to you, um 130 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: on something that in the grand scheme of things might 131 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: not be a big deal, but to me it was. 132 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: And he knew kind of how that feeling was as 133 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: you're coming along. So, you know, just a great guy. 134 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: I've been been fortunate to have have his support for a 135 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: long time. So so to answer your question, I think 136 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that you can take from him, 137 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: but the example he sets is above everything else. You 138 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: on one thing you brought up your dad, man, which 139 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of. Man. I used to 140 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: love your dad. You know, just when early on when 141 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: I started to watch a NASCAR from Maryland and watching 142 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: the d C area, so a lot of tracks. I 143 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: think the closest track was out there was was dover 144 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: right up the Marster Mouth. Um So that was like 145 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: the closest track that I was able to get to 146 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: that was close to home. But your dad was the man. 147 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: But the real m v P is your mom, and 148 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: people don't I don't know if people know about that. 149 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: I've been around the tracks a lot, man, but your 150 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: mom has just been a crazy amount to give crazy 151 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: your support me and your supports is the full while man, 152 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: just talk about that a little bit because every we all, 153 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: we all know the accolades which your dad has accomplished. 154 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: But man, your mom is is the best. Yeah, she 155 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: she's been great. 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But I 222 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: do remember this and when you were coming up and 223 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: moving up in the ranks, and people obviously, you know, 224 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: talking about your dad again, but you were, you know, 225 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: coming up and you had it was some some rocky 226 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: stuff early on, right, and there was a bunch of 227 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: noise from the outside, and I just remember so many 228 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: people talking it's all outside noise. But to see you 229 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: win man is. Being a former athlete myself, I was like, 230 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: is there a little like piece of you? They want 231 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: to say, yeah, take that like it's you have do yeah? 232 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: Do you have any of that? And you I mean, 233 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody has those moments that that drive you, 234 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: that just piss you off. Right, I certainly had those, um, 235 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: But I just feel like the best way to deal 236 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: with that stuff is is, you know, to have success 237 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: if you're fortunate enough to do it. I mean that 238 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: that's gonna make people that don't like you mad enough, 239 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: so that that's the that's the best way to go 240 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: about it, And is just do a job. And you know, 241 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: trying to tried to just eliminate those distractions altogether. And 242 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: that's just one of those things is is yes, as 243 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: much as much as you might want to rub it 244 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: in or whatever, um, you know, it's just not productive 245 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: a lot of times. But been a been a fun 246 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: run for sure. Look, you you're taking a political way. 247 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying because I was, you know, I was around 248 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: and I was hearing it that it has to feel good, man. 249 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: And And one thing that I for me personally and 250 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: also being around UM that I've always admired that I 251 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: don't care how things got you know, tough from you 252 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: from the outside. And I think that to me when 253 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: I was on the tracks, you always your hardest critic, right, 254 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you was always hardest when yourself and anybody 255 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: else possibly could be What where did you get that from? 256 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: That's a good question, you know. I definitely feel um, 257 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily know where I got that from, 258 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: but I just kind of the way I feel about 259 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: it is, no matter what you're doing. I mean, I 260 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: feel like if you're driving race cars, or if you're 261 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: playing football or baseball, whatever, nobody knows. Really no one 262 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: gets the whole picture except you and and the amount 263 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: of effort you put in. Whether you did something wrong 264 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: maybe and didn't do it right, but nobody else noticed. 265 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: Um nobody knows those things but you. And there's you 266 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: know that being said, there's not always going to be 267 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: someone to tell you what was right or what was 268 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: wrong because they might not know. Um So, I definitely 269 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: think you have to hold yourself accountable, especially in in 270 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: in racing. I think, uh, it's unique because there's no 271 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: one sitting in the car with me, right, so, like 272 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: nobody knows whether or not I hit my corner perfect 273 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: or if I, you know, got as close to something 274 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: as I needed to or whatever. No nobody knows, like 275 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: from the outside looking in those small details you can't 276 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: see on TV. UM So, I think you have to 277 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: hold yourself accountable or you're not gonna you're not gonna 278 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: improve in every area? What what was the hardest time? Like, 279 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, because you had a long journey do it. 280 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: I was just sitting back and get an opportunity to watch. 281 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: What was the hardest time when you felt like you 282 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: was maybe starting to hit a wall and and and 283 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: that hunt was a little bit taller than you know, 284 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: did this scene before because everybody got their hiccups and 285 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: you go through it or whatever. But what what point 286 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: in time were you It wasn't even the outside noise. 287 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: I guess you personally started to feel like, man, this 288 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: this is this is a lot tougher and it's gonna 289 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: be a hard one to get through. Yeah, you know, 290 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: that's a great question. I feel like we had had 291 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: we had had some success in the late model short 292 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: track world, like in I don't know, like the early 293 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: Likeneve we were you know, been fortunate to win some 294 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: big races and UH at that time started to get 295 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: involved in what was then the K and N series 296 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: and some arcer races UM and really didn't run very good. 297 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: UM had a lot of success. I felt like on 298 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: the other side UM at certain times, but kind of 299 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: got over there, and that was kind of my first 300 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: step into anything NASCAR sanctioned, and things certainly weren't weren't 301 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: going very well. Um So, yeah, I think, you know, 302 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: that period of time was interesting because from my here 303 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: we are in one car, having success and doing good things, 304 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: and then stead into something else where I didn't really 305 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: think was any more competitive than what we had been racing. 306 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: Wasn't running is good and kind of like, why you know, 307 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand I'm not doing anything any 308 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: different here than I was that I do over there simultaneously. 309 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: So as time goes on, it's just, you know, timing 310 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: of things is so important having good people around you. Uh, 311 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you're gonna go through that stuff and 312 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a missing piece or two that 313 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: you might not ever understand. But I was super fortunate, 314 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: you know Mr Hendrick uh stuck with me through those 315 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: years and said, hey, look this's tell my guy. And 316 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean he did has done everything he ever said 317 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: he would, and and that's pretty hard to come back 318 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: speaking of getting through it. Um So, I'm a person 319 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: I've pushed cars. I was there doing the driver's meetings. 320 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: I was there pushing that pushing cars through an inspection. Right, 321 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: So when I've seen what happened in your Kay's doing 322 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: with the inspection, my heart kind of dropped. Man, what 323 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: was what was that feeling for you? Like when it happened, 324 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, man, this is gonna be That's 325 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: gonna be uphill battle. Yeah. You know, it's interesting because 326 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean everybody's pushing it, right, I mean, especially when 327 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: you come down the end of the year. I mean 328 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: I think he is taking everything they can get out 329 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: of their cars. Um, and then some and and certainly 330 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: those guys that are racing for a championship. So um, 331 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: everybody's us pushed to the absolute edge. So you know, 332 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: the I guess the first time they rolled through tech, 333 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: um there was a problem with a bunch of cars 334 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: how the ducting was uh done in the nose. I 335 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: guess they didn't like that, and then kind of went 336 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: back through the second time and had to h fix 337 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: something on the left rear offenders. So you know, it 338 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: was kind of nitpicking, I guess at the end of 339 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: the day. But they have a job to do, and 340 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate them holding mist accountable and and uh, 341 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: you know, making it right. So I still felt like 342 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: through all that, our our car balance was still more 343 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: important than the starting position. And yeah, so who chose that? What? 344 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: When you was like, who shows? Who chose right? If 345 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: it's not to balance, well, if it's a weighted issue, 346 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: who who who makes a final call on? Okay, which 347 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: one are we gonna give up and move forward? Like? 348 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? You? Yeah? Well it wasn't. It 349 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: wasn't anything we had, you know, it wasn't getting up anything. 350 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: I just mean our preparation and our God got it. 351 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: I guess, um, it is more importan than a starting position. 352 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: So you know, hey, we didn't do a good job 353 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: getting to tech this morning, but I have confidence in 354 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: the things that we decided throughout the week and how 355 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: we wanted to set up our car, and if we 356 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: got those things right, I think three twelve laps is 357 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: plenty enough time to get to wherever you belong, you know, right, 358 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: that just shouldn't be. Um. I didn't feel like that 359 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: was an excuse if things didn't go our way. So um, 360 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: you know, looking back, it obviously worked out. But you 361 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: know that was because we had our car balanced well 362 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: and it was in the ballpark and we could find 363 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: tune once the race started and ended up being a 364 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: being a really nice thing. No, that was a that 365 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: was a hell of a job man by the team 366 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: to to come back, because the first thing I was 367 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: thinking about is he is he gonna be worried about 368 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: to start, you know what, like what's gonna what's gonna 369 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: happen for here? And I think that it was, um, 370 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: maybe a forty second or forty third lap, I think 371 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: he was going to pass Joey, right, we almost Well, 372 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: that didn't have a cross your mind, you might in 373 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: the mental wall like at some point, well with you 374 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: wasn't even just really thinking about that. Yeah, I mean honestly, 375 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: I was just really focused on trying to get to 376 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: the front, you know. And and you know it's certainly 377 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: his been up and down with him, I guess throughout 378 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: the year. But you know, regardless, at the time I 379 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: certainly understood it was you know, came down to one 380 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: race and and you know, we, uh, we raised hard, 381 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: but I thought we raised fair and you know it, uh, 382 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, glad it worked out like it did for sure, 383 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: But at the time it was just about trying to 384 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: find the front and figure out what we need to 385 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: do our car to get a little better. 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And you can 434 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: go back if you look at that, it's just bothers 435 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: the hell out of you at night when you sleep. Man, 436 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Is that is the one track you like? Damn? I 437 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: just I can't. I can't figure it out. I can't 438 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, I mean to me, Texas has become 439 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: that for me. Yeah, Texas Motors Speway. I mean it 440 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: was such an interesting thing too, because when we first 441 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: started going to Texas, it was a different layout and 442 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: the track surface was old, and we actually had some 443 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: really nice runs there. I mean, that was a one 444 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: of my better tracks. I felt like it in my 445 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: rookie year. And they came in and the track was 446 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: having some uh, drainage issues and it just came time 447 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: to pay that and it was just you know, asphalt 448 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: gets wor out after a while and it was time. Uh. 449 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: And when they did it, they they kind of reconfigured 450 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: one and two and and the took away some banking 451 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: and did some different things. And man, it has just 452 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: not set well with me. Sense Uh. But you know, 453 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: this pass race there, I thought it was the best 454 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: one we've ever had. I thought we were improved and 455 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: it it was better. It wasn't good, but it was 456 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 1: it was better. So so what's next? Man? Like, you know, 457 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: you're just coming off of this, off of the win. Um, 458 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: the season has been great for you, But like, what's 459 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: what's next as far as the momentum? Like, what are 460 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: you hoping to take from this season? And we talked 461 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: about Texas when we talk about some of the other stuff, 462 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: But what are you hoping to take from this season, 463 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, going into the next season as as momentum changes. Yeah, 464 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a great question. And I'm 465 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm still kind of reflecting on this year. I haven't 466 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 1: I haven't really looked ahead yet. But you know, an 467 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: important thing to me is is just being a consistent winner. 468 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: And I think in our sport, Uh, there's a handful 469 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: of guys that I feel like can win literally any 470 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: given week. Like any time. Uh, there's a handful of 471 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: guys that I could be like, all right, well it's 472 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: could it could be any of those guys today. Um, 473 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: I want to be that. And I feel like we 474 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: uh have been right there at that and I thought 475 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: we've we've even achieved that to a degree at the 476 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: end of the year, but still not to the degree 477 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: that I want to be at. And um, I think 478 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: that we can certainly get there and and be better 479 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: yet and and hopefully lead to some more opportunities down 480 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: the road. Hey, that's awesome, brother. You've got anything else 481 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: coming up? Any events, charity stuff for you know? Yes, 482 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: at some point, at some point, man, you gotta take 483 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: it all in, like you know, you're gonna have late 484 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: night shows and zoom calls and and a bunch of 485 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: pr probably signings and everything else to do. But man, 486 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: I mean, what's you know, are you gonna take some 487 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: time offs? What what are you playing soon? Yeah? I 488 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: actually hope to do some more racing through the winner. 489 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: Um as things changed throughout the year, just the landscape 490 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: of the world. I had been going on some trips 491 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: around the world and traveling and seeing new places, and 492 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: that's really what's your what's your favorite place so far? Man, 493 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: that's really tough. Um. I've been to some cool places. 494 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: Ireland was really neat. Um. Been to Costa Rica a 495 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: couple of times, enjoying. I love Costa Rica. Yeah, so 496 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: I wanted to see some more places, but just with 497 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: the landscape of everything, I just you know, traveling outside 498 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: the States really isn't an option right now. So Michael ecceen, 499 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be home. Let's trying to do some some racing. 500 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Uh so, working on some things. I haven't really finished 501 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: it all up, but really hoped to spend my winner 502 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: and doing some racing and obviously enjoying holidays with my family. 503 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome, brother, he congratulations again. I appreciate it. 504 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: I know how it is when you know everybody's pulling 505 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: from you left and right and you've got no time 506 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: to yourself. Man, So I really appreciate you coming on 507 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: and good luck. Man. I'm sure I'll see you at 508 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: the track when they allow us all to come back 509 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: and things are fully normal. I'm like, I couldn't believe 510 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: it's like my first year and probably a decade that 511 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: I haven't gone to no tracks, so I can't wait 512 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: to get back out there. Man, I'll make sure I 513 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: stopped buying. Say what's up? Yeah, I definitely did get 514 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: talking to you. I appreciate your time. Hey, you got 515 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 1: a brother. Thank you. Thanks, thanks guys for tune it. 516 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: And again to another episode on the Lights our podcast 517 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: with Me Shawn Merriman, And Uh, it was really cool 518 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: for for a Chase to to jump on with us because, uh, 519 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, when things I told him, I said, when 520 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: you just win something, you win and the accolades, or 521 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: you win something a championship like he just won, you're 522 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: getting pulled left and right. Man. So for us to 523 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: give for him to give us twenty twenty five minutes 524 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: of his day was super cool. And you know, to 525 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: see what's gonna happen to me's twenty four years old. 526 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: He was twenty four years old, so he has a 527 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: a lot of time behind that wheel man, and and 528 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: and so much momentum going into next year. So I'm 529 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: really hoping the best for him. And uh, finally I'll 530 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: get a chance to get to some tracks. This is 531 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: the first year, uh, in the decade that I haven't 532 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: been able to get out to a NASCAR track man, 533 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: So to to see that uh and being able to 534 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: watching on TV and not being there really a gut point. 535 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: So anyway, thanks again. Guys listening in to another episode 536 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: of the Lights Out podcast mis Sean Raymond, don't forget 537 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: to rate us, UH, review download us, Tell your friends 538 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: and all your people to keep listening. We're gonna keep 539 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: heating up. I appreciate it again. Thanks. 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