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Speaker 1: thanks for doing this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great to be here. Til Uh what.

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Speaker 1: Has the transition been like for you personally going from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been great. I mean, first of all, just

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Speaker 2: You know, just being in this community and you know

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Speaker 2: similar to Kansas City. And then no, just a job.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the next challenge in your career. So it's

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Speaker 2: one that you know, I worked for for a long

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Speaker 2: it's been a great you know time here and challenge

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Speaker 1: I can hear the accent from where you're originally from

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Speaker 1: in the wonderful Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Was this the dream?

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Speaker 1: Was the dream to be in the National Football League

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if it was ever a dream.

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Speaker 2: You know, I always loved just being in football. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Who are your biggest influences?

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Speaker 1: at every level. So let me ask you this, Mike,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course the wins and losses. You know, the

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Speaker 1: From my perch calling the games each week, I would

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Speaker 1: And cam Ward obviously is a part of that. He's

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Speaker 1: The great thing about the National Football League, and as

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Speaker 1: Now back to the OTP, Mike, Obviously, it's not just

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Speaker 2: it makes sense, or you can use it as as

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Speaker 2: so for us, I always said, you know, currency is

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Speaker 1: What is your message, Mike during this bye week to

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Speaker 2: To for the players, especially just to get off the

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Speaker 2: a long, you know stretch here till November. Uh, and

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Speaker 2: for the coaches as well, just to get away spend

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Speaker 2: time with your family. It's also a good point, you know,

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Speaker 2: to to really go back and self scout as well.

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Speaker 2: You know, one of the few things we can do

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Speaker 2: that that that can get us better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, reset, rest mentally as much as physically absolutely, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. You and I are new to the organization.

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Speaker 1: This is our it's my first year, it's your first year,

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Speaker 1: but certainly both of us appreciate the fact that the

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Speaker 1: last few years have been tough for the Titans organization.

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Speaker 1: What is your message to the fans right now, Mike?

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Speaker 2: You know, really we have to earn their trust back

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Speaker 2: right now. I think the results obviously haven't been there

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Speaker 2: right now working every day to try to get this right.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I do see growth behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: I do think we have a process here that we're

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Speaker 2: we're going to be disciplined to and eventually you're going

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Speaker 2: to see the results on the field. I'm very confident in.

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Speaker 1: That, and I know a lot of what Titans fans

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Speaker 1: are thinking about is what you're referring to twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight and beyond. How important

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Speaker 2: It's very important. It's it's continuing the growth that we've

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Speaker 2: we head into next season and a lot of these

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Speaker 2: So it's it's just continuing to get better and it's

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Speaker 2: an important time here for us to you know, show

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Speaker 2: the growth and eventually show the results in the field

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Speaker 1: Mike, you gave some great examples of high school days

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Speaker 2: I think you always lean on those experience instance, and

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Speaker 2: I did have that.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had one season where we did have

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Speaker 2: you know, the biggest thing I learned from that is,

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Speaker 2: of people into the organization. You have to build a culture,

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Speaker 2: you have to have a process, and you have to

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Speaker 2: that's the same approach that we're going to have here

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Speaker 1: It's fun to watch you and your personnel department and

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Speaker 1: everyone that is associated with the Titans work and build

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Speaker 1: this thing. It's nice that you give me a seat

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Speaker 1: next to you every once in a while to get

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Speaker 1: a little perch into it. And I wish you continued success.

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Speaker 1: I know they're great days ahead for the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 2: It's by tailor, tighten up, tighten up,