WEBVTT - What We Learned from The Important Things with Bobbi and Anjali 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:07.680 How many things are different since we met, since before 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.360 the pandemic, how my life has changed, and how a 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.120 lot of people's lives and and how things that you 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:19.000 didn't realize were so important are really the important things, right. 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.080 It's not just your career, and it's not just you know, 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.639 how you show up at work, it's just it's really 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:27.560 the words that come out of your mouth and how 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:32.440 you live your life. Hi, everybody, it's Angelie Kumar from 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.960 The Important Things with Bobby Brown and Angelie Kumar. Today 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.120 on this episode of the Important Things, we're going to 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:42.440 be reflecting on this season and our conversations with these 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.600 ten incredible guests talking about what's important to them coming 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.959 out of this pandemic and what they're really focusing on 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.400 in this next phase of their lives. And also I 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.520 get the fun task of turning the tables on Bobby 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.240 to hear what's important to her. I hope you enjoyed 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:05.480 the conversation. Hi, Bobby, Hey on Julie, how are you? 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.520 I'm so good? How are you? Um? I don't like 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.960 when people say hanging by a thread, but that thread 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.560 that I'm hanging by is starting to unravel. But it's fine. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.920 So I'm just taking a moment to breathe. No, just 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.840 you know, when there's too much going on and it's 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.200 like I can't even get answer a text or an email, 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.120 and there's just so much. For some reason, it's just 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.760 happening now, and it's humid on top of it. It 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.959 is so humid. I'm like, what's the word? What's the 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.320 sort of vetching? I don't know how to say it. Convetching, Yeah, 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.200 that's thing that means complaining. I thought that it was 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:45.759 like also sweating, and that just means cavetching. Stop cavetching, 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.200 that means stop complaining. But isn't there a good Edish 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.280 word for sweating? I thought there was one that you're 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:55.920 like fitz saying, that's what I said. Yeah, I'm shit saying, 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.480 thank you for clarifying my I'm a Hindu, you know 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.800 that's about me. I like to pretend like I'm Jewish, 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:08.320 me too, um, but you're actually Jewish. But yeah, that's 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.280 but but we are very similar. I mean, I I 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.680 know this firsthand at you know, having an Indian daughter 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:19.840 in law. Her relatives are just like mine, except way 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:25.600 way way better dancers, way better dancers. We can we 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.080 can start you out of My daughter is taking some 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.600 serious Bollywood lessons and she just had like a seventeen 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.360 hour recital over the weekend, and I gotta tell you, 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.440 she's got some moves. I was very impressed. Yeah, she's 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.400 only twelve, but she can she can bunger with the 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.119 best of them. I was pretty impressed. Yeah, you'll you'd 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.800 be impressed. I'm very impressed. And all I've ever wanted 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.040 to do is take hip hop lessons. Oh so she 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.959 started with hip hop. That's what we're gonna do. Forget it. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.799 This podcast is not over. This is not the last episode. 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.680 You and I are going to go on the road 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.120 and do hip hop and maybe we'll video record that 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.120 for the people I like, they might like to see that. 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.960 Not a chance, darlin, I'm not a chance, my my. 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.960 I've I've already been you know, danced on stage with 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.800 flow Ride, I've danced on stage with Salt with Salt 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:15.160 and Peppro So no, no, no, not for not for 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.200 public guys. Okay, fair enough, then we'll just do that. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.840 That'll be our date at the end. Um. Well, speaking 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.399 of Florida, I know we talked about your your nickname 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.160 in our last episode. And I would love to just 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:33.600 start this episode kind of reflecting back on the last 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:37.320 ten episodes, and we've had such incredible conversations with I 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.360 feel like iluminaries from every field, which has been such 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.640 an honor and so fun to really dive deep with 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.040 these folks that I personally admire so much and like 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.800 know them in many cases just from their work and 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.080 so to be a fan to go to being at 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:56.640 least a friendly acquaintance on Zoom was really nice. And 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.520 I have a lot of reflections just on these conversations. 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.000 But I would to hear what some of your favorite 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.640 takeaways were, well, certainly starting with Glorious Steinhum. I mean, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.480 come on, who gets to start with Glorious Steinhum? And 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.160 you know that was really cool. Yeah, I would say 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.440 that's a definite highlight for me too. And I think 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:18.360 my favorite moment of the entire season was actually from 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.400 our first episode with Gloria when we were explaining to 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.440 her what an O. G was like, I think that's 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.440 gonna be one of my top ten moments of life. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.600 Was just her being like what is that? She's like, okay, 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.880 I'll take it. I was like, wait, no, that's amazing 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.599 being I think I'm gonna change my Twitter bio to 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.880 say that I am once explained to Gloria's Steinhum, what 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.080 O G means? That's going to have to be a 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.920 big highlight. And I kind of like the Jennifer Fisher 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.480 where she actually made us cookies and delivered him to 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.280 our house. I mean, yeah, I mean that cooks of 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.719 this job. We're significant for sure. Definitely that was a 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.880 good one. It's been like, you know, a total interesting 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.960 fun you know, times like recording I keep saying, shoot, 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.880 but it's recording these podcasts with you because we are 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.720 very different the way we, you know, deal with things. 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.640 You are much more of a of a researcher and 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.080 knowing everything, and I just kind of step in and 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.800 hope for the best. So, you know, I just want 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.680 to know, like what else you're thinking of doing? Oh well, 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:23.400 you know, in terms of outside the next things, who knows. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.320 I think one of the things that I've learned, um 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.880 in my career and certainly just from you know, folks 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.160 like you, from people that I admire, is um, some 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.760 of the best things that happen are really unplanned. And 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.760 so whenever I try to really think about what's next 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.640 and be super strategic and intentional. It doesn't always go 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.640 that way, and it's always led to something better than 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.080 I could have imagined. I'm not always, i should say, 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.120 but like you know, most most of the time, it's 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:54.400 the the best laid plans kind of thing. UM. So 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.600 I have learned just to kind of let things go. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.880 I think, you know, somebody of the lessons just from 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.440 a season, and certainly from the folks that we've talked 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:06.760 about that we've talked with, UM kind of validate that. 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.800 But you know, these times were so uncertain and so 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.599 there's so much shifting sound underneath all of our feet, 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.400 and everybody's kind of gotten through it in a way 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.640 that they couldn't have anticipated. And on the other side 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.400 of it, what I hope is largely on the other 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:26.080 side of it, um, where we're all better a little bit, 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.520 you know, like that we're willing to deal with uncertainty 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.680 in a different way. We kind of know that that's 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.760 just that that's the only thing you can plan for, 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.479 is uncertainty. UM. So yeah, I don't know. I'm going 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.800 to keep advising companies. I'm going to keep writing, UM, 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:45.520 keep talking on the internet, and some fashion probably tweeting 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.760 a little less if the acquisition goes through with Elon Musk, 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.880 But you know, I'll find other ways to just say 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.480 what I'm thinking or what's on my mind. Um what 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.720 about you? You got your hands full? Well, I definitely 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.320 have my handsful, and I have you know, I always 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:06.760 have new interesting projects that are on the horizon that 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.560 I'll either i'll do or I won't do. And you know, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.040 I get bored really easily, and I jump into things 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:17.280 and you know, so I'm gonna just keep keep going 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:21.800 and keep doing things. And and probably the hardest thing 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.360 I'm going to be doing is figuring out what I'm 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.880 not going to be doing, because sometimes things are like, okay, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.600 not working. Why are they not working? Like? How can 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.440 I do? How can I do it better? How can 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.720 I do it less? Yeah? So you know, I I 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.920 even take that um, you know train of thought. Like 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:44.040 in my home, Like I just showed a friend my 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.360 my new home and I was so embarrassed. I didn't 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.920 know she was coming over. My closet is a mess, 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.720 and I'm someone that likes things really organized. My bathroom 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.360 is a mess, and I was I was embarrassed. I 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.280 kept making excuses and I'm like, all right, Bobby, this 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.480 is something you have to deal with. Don't leave your 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.840 house like this because you know it doesn't make you 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.160 feel good. So I need to slow down a little 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.520 bit and be more present. So that's kind of what 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.800 I'm working on. Yeah. I like that we need to 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.080 get you to meditate, Bobby. That was like the key 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.440 theme of every single I think every single person we 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.280 talked to. I think basically everybody said that they meditate, 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.680 which I was really surprised by. So maybe we can 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.960 get you to meditated. I forget. I forget, and I 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.520 know I have an app and I once did an 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.440 Instagram live for the Sole House with the founder of Calm, 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.280 the Calm app, and I was like, Okay, this is 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.800 great and I signed on and I just haven't done it, 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:42.040 Like I just forget, So you know something I gotta 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.320 work on. Yeah, Well, you gotta give yourself some grace 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.120 about that closet because you were recording the podcast in 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.640 the closet too, so I feel like that's your excuse 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.680 for that. Yeah. Well, I want to take us through 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.760 a couple of questions that I have for you that 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.800 I think our listeners want to know. So starting with 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.680 John's Road, just because I am a big fan of 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.200 the product. So this is not product placement. I'm not pushing. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.240 It's just because I really do, genuinely love what you've created, 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:11.640 and I really would love to know just really what 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.400 inspired you to start the line and start again. I mean, 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.600 you had all this incredible success and in the middle 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:22.559 of this incredibly insane time, you were like, yeah, I'm 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.120 going to be a start up founder, like I'm gonna 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.839 do That's what inspired you? Well, I didn't think I 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.040 was done, you know. When I left Bobby Brown Cosmetics, 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:33.400 I was done and I just couldn't imagine doing it again. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.559 And I did all these other projects that were creative 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.000 outlets for me because I'm someone that likes a challenge 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:42.400 and likes creative things. And then I started doing makeup 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.080 and just you know it shoots and in general, and 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.719 I really loved it. And I realized how much has 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:54.120 changed in in our world, in me personally, you know. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.160 And this was way before the pandemic, just about how 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:02.440 I saw beauty and how I saw confidence, and I 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.680 knew I had something else to teach, which was how 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.280 to use makeup to make yourself really look like you're 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:12.680 not wearing it, but that you look better. And um, 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:16.240 I kind of seized the opportunity with one simple little 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.600 product and that led to two, and then I hired 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:21.920 someone and then I hired someone else, and then I 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.720 launched and now it's crazy. We have another year and 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:31.560 a half of products in the pipeline. That's crazy. That's amazing. Yeah, well, 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:34.000 I love that, And I love that you were willing 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.400 to revisit something that you had so much success and 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.199 and that by any measure of people would be like 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.719 she knocked it out of the park, Like that's what 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.679 else can you achieve? And that you're able to like reset, 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.319 start again. Um. I think that's something that I've always 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.480 admired about you, that you're willing to be uncomfortable, um, 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.560 and that you're able to have so much as and 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:53.880 be like I'm just gonna start it again and see 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:55.800 if I can do it in a different way, and 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.520 like what would I tweak and how would I do 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.640 this differently, and how would I change this? And I 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.120 think that's just a theme that I see with you 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.679 just generally, I mean, even with this show in a 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.720 way that I really admire. It's a lot of people 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.439 will be like, oh, well it's working. Let's just keep 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.040 doing that again and again and again. Let's just keep 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.120 playing our greatest hits again and again and again. And 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.000 you're like, no, I'm gonna do this other thing and 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.160 trying a slightly different way, and I'm not gonna lie. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.880 I was. I was nervous. You know. It's like, are 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:24.440 people gonna think the packaging is too crappy? Are people 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.560 going to think you know, there's not enough promise, there's 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.160 not bells and whistles, there's not a high price point, 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.880 there's not it's not fancy, but you know what it's 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:38.200 for me, it just feels real and authentic and and 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.480 not wasteful. And that was what was most important to me. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.439 Besides I think it's the best formulas I've ever used. Amazing. Well, 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.520 I think for all those reasons that you just said, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.920 are people going to think this in a negative way? 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.080 I think those are all the things that personally I 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.440 really like about it, and I suspect other people agree. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.120 So yeah, just my two sounds not that people need 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.400 that recommendation for me, but just you know, but what 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.680 it's worth. Um, okay, So I want to know how 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.560 you spend your days because your days are so hectic. 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.520 I mean, you really are one of the busiest people 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.640 I know in business and with you know, a grand 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:12.560 kid on the way, with the house full of dogs 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.839 and children and everything, like all the moving pieces in 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.679 the hotel and everything. What does a typical day look 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.680 like for probably Brown? Well, you know what, I wish 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.959 I could say there was a typical day, and there isn't. 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.760 And I'm not saying that I like it, but it 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.080 is the way it is. I know, certain things are 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.840 not negotiable in my calendar, my trainer. I need to 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.320 at least be with my trainer twice a week. I 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.480 need to, um, you know, of course, be with my 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.080 husband every night. I mean I rarely go out at 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:44.640 night without him. I also need time to check in 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.280 with my friends and see my friends. And when it 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.800 comes to work, sometimes work in life get very much 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.480 intertwined in my life where I walk into a you know, 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.360 a meeting, but my father's calling me and there's something 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.320 going on. I mean, I'm you know, not that I'm 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.640 not professional, I'm just trying to fit in so much 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.160 at once that sometimes it does get in the way. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:13.439 So um, I try and I'm working towards it that Mondays, 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:18.520 Tuesdays and Thursdays are full on Jones road scheduled days, 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:23.360 mostly in person, and Wednesdays are my days too to 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.360 do everything from you know, get my hair colored, which 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.640 I do every two weeks, to see my trainer, to 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.360 if a doctor's appointment, and then fit in things in between. 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.880 And I'm trying, especially for the summer, to not have 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:39.600 anything on my calendar for Friday except personal things. Oh 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.760 I love that. Trying Okay, I'm yeah, but it's it's 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.040 such a good idea. And we used to do this 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.160 at Google where we had no meeting Fridays. We still 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.360 work all the time, but we had like no meeting Fridays, 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.960 which was such a revelation at that time. And I 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.480 know a lot of companies have adopted similar things. But 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.760 even personally, I've taken a page from your book where 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.000 I had a m my therapist. I think that said 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.840 to me to create one day a week that was 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:03.719 just my creative day, because I was having a really 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.360 hard time finding space to write or to you know, 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.760 think about these other projects that you and I have 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.040 discussed offline, um and I just didn't have the mental 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:13.720 kind of space to do it, and she's like, just 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.520 block a whole day and you can't do anything but 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.280 creative stuff, no meetings, no other stuff. And it's made 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.760 a huge difference. I've been doing it since September, and 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.040 every Tuesday is my creative day. I was taking a 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.000 ceramics class. You'll be amused to know I'm terrible at it, 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.680 but I was taking a ceramics class like every Tuesday morning. 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.280 So it sort of forced me to stop and really 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.240 ground myself something. What time your class was? That class 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.800 wasn't until ten thirties, so it's kind of a weird time. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:39.400 But it's like I would do other stuff in the 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.200 morning and like you know, go on a walk or 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.240 do whatever, or do some writing, and then I would 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.320 go to ceramics. It was two and a half hours 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.720 when I signed up. I actually I know when I 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:49.560 signed up, I thought it was a four week class 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.640 because it was actually really inexpensive. It was at the 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.280 community center in my neighborhood, and it turned out to 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.680 be a ten week class, which I didn't know that 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.280 I already paid for it, and I was like, wait, 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.960 how are the only charging like forty bucks or whatever 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.120 for this cloic. That's insane and it um and so 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.160 then I it was too late already given them the money. 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.160 So I started going and I really found myself looking 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.480 so forward to this time because it really was just 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:17.280 about being super present, you know, turning off my phone, 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.480 were like in the seller of this like this, um, 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.840 what's it called? The community Center? And so there was nothing, 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.560 you know, nothing else to do, and you can't touch 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.480 your phone, you can't do other things, and you've got 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.000 clay all over yourself. And it was really good for me. 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.800 But it was a way to sort of get myself created, 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.600 grounded um and at a midpoint in the week. And 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.480 it's been really helpful. But I like the idea of 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.520 taking a whole day that's just also nothing else, Like 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.400 that's all I can do is stuff for myself. I 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.720 might have to incorporate that most I'm working. But even 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.880 now on the podcast, you know, I'm looking at at 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.160 a picture of myself, I'm half cut off, and I 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.720 noticed that I'm wearing the ring, the Aora ring, and 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.760 in my head, I'm like, oh, I gotta remember because 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.320 I'm going to the to my beach house. I'm like, ship, 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:07.160 I have to remember the charger. But then I'm like, 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:08.840 how am I going to remember that? Because I have 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:10.840 so much and I'm sitting up here at this desk. 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.600 I don't know if Emily's listening, but I'm like, I 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:18.840 just made myself a tower. So Emily is gonna come 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.760 up here and say, why did you make this tower 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.160 of makeup? I'm gonna say, you know why because I 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.440 would you please write a note to remind me to 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.040 get my or ring? Like I did that so I 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.440 would remember because I looked around, and this is an entrepreneur. 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.440 I looked around. There's no paper, there's no pencil, I 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.240 don't have my phone. Do I write it in a 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.080 you know, a face, Bob, you know, a Jones road 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.400 face on your table? You know, Like, I'm just gonna 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.560 give myself something to remember. But that but that's who 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.720 I am. That's really funny. So know that's that's so 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.960 funny because that's like the equivalent of like tying a 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.400 piece of string on your favor to remember to do something, 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.400 and instead you're like, let me make a tower of 0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:00.960 lipstick to remind myself to tell some need to do something. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:06.600 That's amazing. Yeah, that's meditation. Bobby but but you're probably 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.399 better at this than I am. I will write a 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.800 sticky of something I have to remember, I'm a giant 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.960 to do list. I then I write on my on 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.440 my app on the notes. Then I also text or 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.239 email Emily. Then I leave a voice memo and I 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.560 and I'm I'm kind of all over the place where 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.920 I can't just sit down and focus and say, all right, Bobby, 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.240 do one thing and put it all in one place. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.280 So I'm and I know meditation will probably help that too, 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.320 but it might, but you know, I think it is 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:36.920 just the sign of the times. It's like we're being 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.280 pulled in too many directions and it's just hard. You know, 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.400 there's um you know, and especially like post pandemic brain, 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.160 like I forget a lot, Like if I don't write 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.359 it down right away, it's gone out of my mind 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.280 and then I forget. But I've yeah, I've gone into 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.840 like the reminders on my calendar is the only way 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.480 I can get stuff done. It's super irritating, but you know, 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.399 there's actually I'm gonna send you a book, well, not 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.919 that you have time to read a book about about 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.360 organizing yourself, but listeners, if you would like a resource. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.480 I had read this like super cheesy book. It's like 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.440 a you know, ten dollars in Amazon called Getting Things Done. 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.560 It's the cheesiest cover. It's like this guy was like 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.880 a consultant who's on the cover of it, and but 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.160 you read it and he doesn't give you a process 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.720 to remember how to do things. Not really, it's really 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.040 about you having to come up with your own system 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.199 because whatever works for somebody else won't work for you. 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.960 And it's like, however your brain works. Have you ever 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.600 read this? You know? I would give I would give 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.880 it a try. But I'm laughing because I once bought 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.159 a book about adult a d d and how to 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.879 organize everything, which is great, but I couldn't focus to 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.119 read it. There was no pictures. I'm like, this is great. 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.520 Like I'm not going to send you this. I mean, 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.240 you know what am I supposed to do? I'm for me, 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.480 it's visual. If there's like a recipe and I'm like, oh, 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.200 I could make that, but I can't follow the recipe. 0:18:52.840 --> 0:19:09.760 I guess it's it's a thing. So O, They're like 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.720 getting down to brass tacks and the real important things. 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.760 What's in your smoothie? You ask everybody. I know what 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.080 every single one of our guests that has in their smoothie. 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.040 I would like to know what's in your smoothie. In 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.440 my smoothie, it starts with a liquid, and it's been 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.840 almond milk. Sometimes I do um, walnut milk because I 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.400 read that walnuts are good beer brain. I mean basically, 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.199 it's just taste the same. I always have ice, I 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:39.160 have something chocolate I've been doing, uh, coconut and coconut, um, chocolate, 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:42.680 collagen powder from my body green. I try to throw 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.480 spinach in and I try to even do frozen because 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.240 it makes it nice and icy. I also put in 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.479 peanut butter. I tried almond butter. I just I know 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.960 almonds are better for you than peanut butter. My doctor 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.480 would not be happy, um, you know, having peanuts. But 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:58.960 I have peanut butter because it just makes it taste good. 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.840 And I always throw two dates and some chia seeds 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.880 or zen zen basil seeds and that's my smoothie. Yeah, okay, 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:08.400 I need to write that down. I'm gonna go back 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.359 and listen to the tape. What's in yours? Uh, it's 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.880 going to be what you just described you can also 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:19.000 put frozen cherries in. That's also really good, like cherry 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.560 and chocolate. That's a nice idea. Yeah, I'm not a 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.879 consistent smoothie drinker. I'm really bad about breakfast. I have 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:26.880 to admit, like I'm kind of a hard boiled egg 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.720 like savory breakfast person. So that's been my breakfast of late, 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:34.240 which I know is like not very exciting, but that's good. 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.240