Speaker 1: How many things are different since we met, since before
Speaker 1: the pandemic, how my life has changed, and how a
Speaker 1: lot of people's lives and and how things that you
Speaker 1: didn't realize were so important are really the important things, right.
Speaker 1: It's not just your career, and it's not just you know,
Speaker 1: how you show up at work, it's just it's really
Speaker 1: the words that come out of your mouth and how
Speaker 1: you live your life. Hi, everybody, it's Angelie Kumar from
Speaker 1: The Important Things with Bobby Brown and Angelie Kumar. Today
Speaker 1: on this episode of the Important Things, we're going to
Speaker 1: be reflecting on this season and our conversations with these
Speaker 1: ten incredible guests talking about what's important to them coming
Speaker 1: out of this pandemic and what they're really focusing on
Speaker 1: in this next phase of their lives. And also I
Speaker 1: get the fun task of turning the tables on Bobby
Speaker 1: to hear what's important to her. I hope you enjoyed
Speaker 1: the conversation. Hi, Bobby, Hey on Julie, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm so good? How are you? Um? I don't like
Speaker 1: when people say hanging by a thread, but that thread
Speaker 1: that I'm hanging by is starting to unravel. But it's fine.
Speaker 1: So I'm just taking a moment to breathe. No, just
Speaker 1: you know, when there's too much going on and it's
Speaker 1: like I can't even get answer a text or an email,
Speaker 1: and there's just so much. For some reason, it's just
Speaker 1: happening now, and it's humid on top of it. It
Speaker 1: is so humid. I'm like, what's the word? What's the
Speaker 1: sort of vetching? I don't know how to say it. Convetching, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's thing that means complaining. I thought that it was
Speaker 1: like also sweating, and that just means cavetching. Stop cavetching,
Speaker 1: that means stop complaining. But isn't there a good Edish
Speaker 1: word for sweating? I thought there was one that you're
Speaker 1: like fitz saying, that's what I said. Yeah, I'm shit saying,
Speaker 1: thank you for clarifying my I'm a Hindu, you know
Speaker 1: that's about me. I like to pretend like I'm Jewish,
Speaker 1: me too, um, but you're actually Jewish. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: but but we are very similar. I mean, I I
Speaker 1: know this firsthand at you know, having an Indian daughter
Speaker 1: in law. Her relatives are just like mine, except way
Speaker 1: way way better dancers, way better dancers. We can we
Speaker 1: can start you out of My daughter is taking some
Speaker 1: serious Bollywood lessons and she just had like a seventeen
Speaker 1: hour recital over the weekend, and I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: she's got some moves. I was very impressed. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: only twelve, but she can she can bunger with the
Speaker 1: best of them. I was pretty impressed. Yeah, you'll you'd
Speaker 1: be impressed. I'm very impressed. And all I've ever wanted
Speaker 1: to do is take hip hop lessons. Oh so she
Speaker 1: started with hip hop. That's what we're gonna do. Forget it.
Speaker 1: This podcast is not over. This is not the last episode.
Speaker 1: You and I are going to go on the road
Speaker 1: and do hip hop and maybe we'll video record that
Speaker 1: for the people I like, they might like to see that.
Speaker 1: Not a chance, darlin, I'm not a chance, my my.
Speaker 1: I've I've already been you know, danced on stage with
Speaker 1: flow Ride, I've danced on stage with Salt with Salt
Speaker 1: and Peppro So no, no, no, not for not for
Speaker 1: public guys. Okay, fair enough, then we'll just do that.
Speaker 1: That'll be our date at the end. Um. Well, speaking
Speaker 1: of Florida, I know we talked about your your nickname
Speaker 1: in our last episode. And I would love to just
Speaker 1: start this episode kind of reflecting back on the last
Speaker 1: ten episodes, and we've had such incredible conversations with I
Speaker 1: feel like iluminaries from every field, which has been such
Speaker 1: an honor and so fun to really dive deep with
Speaker 1: these folks that I personally admire so much and like
Speaker 1: know them in many cases just from their work and
Speaker 1: so to be a fan to go to being at
Speaker 1: least a friendly acquaintance on Zoom was really nice. And
Speaker 1: I have a lot of reflections just on these conversations.
Speaker 1: But I would to hear what some of your favorite
Speaker 1: takeaways were, well, certainly starting with Glorious Steinhum. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, who gets to start with Glorious Steinhum? And
Speaker 1: you know that was really cool. Yeah, I would say
Speaker 1: that's a definite highlight for me too. And I think
Speaker 1: my favorite moment of the entire season was actually from
Speaker 1: our first episode with Gloria when we were explaining to
Speaker 1: her what an O. G was like, I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of my top ten moments of life.
Speaker 1: Was just her being like what is that? She's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I was like, wait, no, that's amazing
Speaker 1: being I think I'm gonna change my Twitter bio to
Speaker 1: say that I am once explained to Gloria's Steinhum, what
Speaker 1: O G means? That's going to have to be a
Speaker 1: big highlight. And I kind of like the Jennifer Fisher
Speaker 1: where she actually made us cookies and delivered him to
Speaker 1: our house. I mean, yeah, I mean that cooks of
Speaker 1: this job. We're significant for sure. Definitely that was a
Speaker 1: good one. It's been like, you know, a total interesting
Speaker 1: fun you know, times like recording I keep saying, shoot,
Speaker 1: but it's recording these podcasts with you because we are
Speaker 1: very different the way we, you know, deal with things.
Speaker 1: You are much more of a of a researcher and
Speaker 1: knowing everything, and I just kind of step in and
Speaker 1: hope for the best. So, you know, I just want
Speaker 1: to know, like what else you're thinking of doing? Oh well,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of outside the next things, who knows.
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that I've learned, um
Speaker 1: in my career and certainly just from you know, folks
Speaker 1: like you, from people that I admire, is um, some
Speaker 1: of the best things that happen are really unplanned. And
Speaker 1: so whenever I try to really think about what's next
Speaker 1: and be super strategic and intentional. It doesn't always go
Speaker 1: that way, and it's always led to something better than
Speaker 1: I could have imagined. I'm not always, i should say,
Speaker 1: but like you know, most most of the time, it's
Speaker 1: the the best laid plans kind of thing. UM. So
Speaker 1: I have learned just to kind of let things go.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, somebody of the lessons just from
Speaker 1: a season, and certainly from the folks that we've talked
Speaker 1: about that we've talked with, UM kind of validate that.
Speaker 1: But you know, these times were so uncertain and so
Speaker 1: there's so much shifting sound underneath all of our feet,
Speaker 1: and everybody's kind of gotten through it in a way
Speaker 1: that they couldn't have anticipated. And on the other side
Speaker 1: of it, what I hope is largely on the other
Speaker 1: side of it, um, where we're all better a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, like that we're willing to deal with uncertainty
Speaker 1: in a different way. We kind of know that that's
Speaker 1: just that that's the only thing you can plan for,
Speaker 1: is uncertainty. UM. So yeah, I don't know. I'm going
Speaker 1: to keep advising companies. I'm going to keep writing, UM,
Speaker 1: keep talking on the internet, and some fashion probably tweeting
Speaker 1: a little less if the acquisition goes through with Elon Musk,
Speaker 1: But you know, I'll find other ways to just say
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking or what's on my mind. Um what
Speaker 1: about you? You got your hands full? Well, I definitely
Speaker 1: have my handsful, and I have you know, I always
Speaker 1: have new interesting projects that are on the horizon that
Speaker 1: I'll either i'll do or I won't do. And you know,
Speaker 1: I get bored really easily, and I jump into things
Speaker 1: and you know, so I'm gonna just keep keep going
Speaker 1: and keep doing things. And and probably the hardest thing
Speaker 1: I'm going to be doing is figuring out what I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be doing, because sometimes things are like, okay,
Speaker 1: not working. Why are they not working? Like? How can
Speaker 1: I do? How can I do it better? How can
Speaker 1: I do it less? Yeah? So you know, I I
Speaker 1: even take that um, you know train of thought. Like
Speaker 1: in my home, Like I just showed a friend my
Speaker 1: my new home and I was so embarrassed. I didn't
Speaker 1: know she was coming over. My closet is a mess,
Speaker 1: and I'm someone that likes things really organized. My bathroom
Speaker 1: is a mess, and I was I was embarrassed. I
Speaker 1: kept making excuses and I'm like, all right, Bobby, this
Speaker 1: is something you have to deal with. Don't leave your
Speaker 1: house like this because you know it doesn't make you
Speaker 1: feel good. So I need to slow down a little
Speaker 1: bit and be more present. So that's kind of what
Speaker 1: I'm working on. Yeah. I like that we need to
Speaker 1: get you to meditate, Bobby. That was like the key
Speaker 1: theme of every single I think every single person we
Speaker 1: talked to. I think basically everybody said that they meditate,
Speaker 1: which I was really surprised by. So maybe we can
Speaker 1: get you to meditated. I forget. I forget, and I
Speaker 1: know I have an app and I once did an
Speaker 1: Instagram live for the Sole House with the founder of Calm,
Speaker 1: the Calm app, and I was like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: great and I signed on and I just haven't done it,
Speaker 1: Like I just forget, So you know something I gotta
Speaker 1: work on. Yeah, Well, you gotta give yourself some grace
Speaker 1: about that closet because you were recording the podcast in
Speaker 1: the closet too, so I feel like that's your excuse
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. Well, I want to take us through
Speaker 1: a couple of questions that I have for you that
Speaker 1: I think our listeners want to know. So starting with
Speaker 1: John's Road, just because I am a big fan of
Speaker 1: the product. So this is not product placement. I'm not pushing.
Speaker 1: It's just because I really do, genuinely love what you've created,
Speaker 1: and I really would love to know just really what
Speaker 1: inspired you to start the line and start again. I mean,
Speaker 1: you had all this incredible success and in the middle
Speaker 1: of this incredibly insane time, you were like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be a start up founder, like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do That's what inspired you? Well, I didn't think I
Speaker 1: was done, you know. When I left Bobby Brown Cosmetics,
Speaker 1: I was done and I just couldn't imagine doing it again.
Speaker 1: And I did all these other projects that were creative
Speaker 1: outlets for me because I'm someone that likes a challenge
Speaker 1: and likes creative things. And then I started doing makeup
Speaker 1: and just you know it shoots and in general, and
Speaker 1: I really loved it. And I realized how much has
Speaker 1: changed in in our world, in me personally, you know.
Speaker 1: And this was way before the pandemic, just about how
Speaker 1: I saw beauty and how I saw confidence, and I
Speaker 1: knew I had something else to teach, which was how
Speaker 1: to use makeup to make yourself really look like you're
Speaker 1: not wearing it, but that you look better. And um,
Speaker 1: I kind of seized the opportunity with one simple little
Speaker 1: product and that led to two, and then I hired
Speaker 1: someone and then I hired someone else, and then I
Speaker 1: launched and now it's crazy. We have another year and
Speaker 1: a half of products in the pipeline. That's crazy. That's amazing. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I love that, And I love that you were willing
Speaker 1: to revisit something that you had so much success and
Speaker 1: and that by any measure of people would be like
Speaker 1: she knocked it out of the park, Like that's what
Speaker 1: else can you achieve? And that you're able to like reset,
Speaker 1: start again. Um. I think that's something that I've always
Speaker 1: admired about you, that you're willing to be uncomfortable, um,
Speaker 1: and that you're able to have so much as and
Speaker 1: be like I'm just gonna start it again and see
Speaker 1: if I can do it in a different way, and
Speaker 1: like what would I tweak and how would I do
Speaker 1: this differently, and how would I change this? And I
Speaker 1: think that's just a theme that I see with you
Speaker 1: just generally, I mean, even with this show in a
Speaker 1: way that I really admire. It's a lot of people
Speaker 1: will be like, oh, well it's working. Let's just keep
Speaker 1: doing that again and again and again. Let's just keep
Speaker 1: playing our greatest hits again and again and again. And
Speaker 1: you're like, no, I'm gonna do this other thing and
Speaker 1: trying a slightly different way, and I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I was. I was nervous. You know. It's like, are
Speaker 1: people gonna think the packaging is too crappy? Are people
Speaker 1: going to think you know, there's not enough promise, there's
Speaker 1: not bells and whistles, there's not a high price point,
Speaker 1: there's not it's not fancy, but you know what it's
Speaker 1: for me, it just feels real and authentic and and
Speaker 1: not wasteful. And that was what was most important to me.
Speaker 1: Besides I think it's the best formulas I've ever used. Amazing. Well,
Speaker 1: I think for all those reasons that you just said,
Speaker 1: are people going to think this in a negative way?
Speaker 1: I think those are all the things that personally I
Speaker 1: really like about it, and I suspect other people agree.
Speaker 1: So yeah, just my two sounds not that people need
Speaker 1: that recommendation for me, but just you know, but what
Speaker 1: it's worth. Um, okay, So I want to know how
Speaker 1: you spend your days because your days are so hectic.
Speaker 1: I mean, you really are one of the busiest people
Speaker 1: I know in business and with you know, a grand
Speaker 1: kid on the way, with the house full of dogs
Speaker 1: and children and everything, like all the moving pieces in
Speaker 1: the hotel and everything. What does a typical day look
Speaker 1: like for probably Brown? Well, you know what, I wish
Speaker 1: I could say there was a typical day, and there isn't.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that I like it, but it
Speaker 1: is the way it is. I know, certain things are
Speaker 1: not negotiable in my calendar, my trainer. I need to
Speaker 1: at least be with my trainer twice a week. I
Speaker 1: need to, um, you know, of course, be with my
Speaker 1: husband every night. I mean I rarely go out at
Speaker 1: night without him. I also need time to check in
Speaker 1: with my friends and see my friends. And when it
Speaker 1: comes to work, sometimes work in life get very much
Speaker 1: intertwined in my life where I walk into a you know,
Speaker 1: a meeting, but my father's calling me and there's something
Speaker 1: going on. I mean, I'm you know, not that I'm
Speaker 1: not professional, I'm just trying to fit in so much
Speaker 1: at once that sometimes it does get in the way.
Speaker 1: So um, I try and I'm working towards it that Mondays,
Speaker 1: Tuesdays and Thursdays are full on Jones road scheduled days,
Speaker 1: mostly in person, and Wednesdays are my days too to
Speaker 1: do everything from you know, get my hair colored, which
Speaker 1: I do every two weeks, to see my trainer, to
Speaker 1: if a doctor's appointment, and then fit in things in between.
Speaker 1: And I'm trying, especially for the summer, to not have
Speaker 1: anything on my calendar for Friday except personal things. Oh
Speaker 1: I love that. Trying Okay, I'm yeah, but it's it's
Speaker 1: such a good idea. And we used to do this
Speaker 1: at Google where we had no meeting Fridays. We still
Speaker 1: work all the time, but we had like no meeting Fridays,
Speaker 1: which was such a revelation at that time. And I
Speaker 1: know a lot of companies have adopted similar things. But
Speaker 1: even personally, I've taken a page from your book where
Speaker 1: I had a m my therapist. I think that said
Speaker 1: to me to create one day a week that was
Speaker 1: just my creative day, because I was having a really
Speaker 1: hard time finding space to write or to you know,
Speaker 1: think about these other projects that you and I have
Speaker 1: discussed offline, um and I just didn't have the mental
Speaker 1: kind of space to do it, and she's like, just
Speaker 1: block a whole day and you can't do anything but
Speaker 1: creative stuff, no meetings, no other stuff. And it's made
Speaker 1: a huge difference. I've been doing it since September, and
Speaker 1: every Tuesday is my creative day. I was taking a
Speaker 1: ceramics class. You'll be amused to know I'm terrible at it,
Speaker 1: but I was taking a ceramics class like every Tuesday morning.
Speaker 1: So it sort of forced me to stop and really
Speaker 1: ground myself something. What time your class was? That class
Speaker 1: wasn't until ten thirties, so it's kind of a weird time.
Speaker 1: But it's like I would do other stuff in the
Speaker 1: morning and like you know, go on a walk or
Speaker 1: do whatever, or do some writing, and then I would
Speaker 1: go to ceramics. It was two and a half hours
Speaker 1: when I signed up. I actually I know when I
Speaker 1: signed up, I thought it was a four week class
Speaker 1: because it was actually really inexpensive. It was at the
Speaker 1: community center in my neighborhood, and it turned out to
Speaker 1: be a ten week class, which I didn't know that
Speaker 1: I already paid for it, and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: how are the only charging like forty bucks or whatever
Speaker 1: for this cloic. That's insane and it um and so
Speaker 1: then I it was too late already given them the money.
Speaker 1: So I started going and I really found myself looking
Speaker 1: so forward to this time because it really was just
Speaker 1: about being super present, you know, turning off my phone,
Speaker 1: were like in the seller of this like this, um,
Speaker 1: what's it called? The community Center? And so there was nothing,
Speaker 1: you know, nothing else to do, and you can't touch
Speaker 1: your phone, you can't do other things, and you've got
Speaker 1: clay all over yourself. And it was really good for me.
Speaker 1: But it was a way to sort of get myself created,
Speaker 1: grounded um and at a midpoint in the week. And
Speaker 1: it's been really helpful. But I like the idea of
Speaker 1: taking a whole day that's just also nothing else, Like
Speaker 1: that's all I can do is stuff for myself. I
Speaker 1: might have to incorporate that most I'm working. But even
Speaker 1: now on the podcast, you know, I'm looking at at
Speaker 1: a picture of myself, I'm half cut off, and I
Speaker 1: noticed that I'm wearing the ring, the Aora ring, and
Speaker 1: in my head, I'm like, oh, I gotta remember because
Speaker 1: I'm going to the to my beach house. I'm like, ship,
Speaker 1: I have to remember the charger. But then I'm like,
Speaker 1: how am I going to remember that? Because I have
Speaker 1: so much and I'm sitting up here at this desk.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Emily's listening, but I'm like, I
Speaker 1: just made myself a tower. So Emily is gonna come
Speaker 1: up here and say, why did you make this tower
Speaker 1: of makeup? I'm gonna say, you know why because I
Speaker 1: would you please write a note to remind me to
Speaker 1: get my or ring? Like I did that so I
Speaker 1: would remember because I looked around, and this is an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: I looked around. There's no paper, there's no pencil, I
Speaker 1: don't have my phone. Do I write it in a
Speaker 1: you know, a face, Bob, you know, a Jones road
Speaker 1: face on your table? You know, Like, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: give myself something to remember. But that but that's who
Speaker 1: I am. That's really funny. So know that's that's so
Speaker 1: funny because that's like the equivalent of like tying a
Speaker 1: piece of string on your favor to remember to do something,
Speaker 1: and instead you're like, let me make a tower of
Speaker 1: lipstick to remind myself to tell some need to do something.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, that's meditation. Bobby but but you're probably
Speaker 1: better at this than I am. I will write a
Speaker 1: sticky of something I have to remember, I'm a giant
Speaker 1: to do list. I then I write on my on
Speaker 1: my app on the notes. Then I also text or
Speaker 1: email Emily. Then I leave a voice memo and I
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm kind of all over the place where
Speaker 1: I can't just sit down and focus and say, all right, Bobby,
Speaker 1: do one thing and put it all in one place.
Speaker 1: So I'm and I know meditation will probably help that too,
Speaker 1: but it might, but you know, I think it is
Speaker 1: just the sign of the times. It's like we're being
Speaker 1: pulled in too many directions and it's just hard. You know,
Speaker 1: there's um you know, and especially like post pandemic brain,
Speaker 1: like I forget a lot, Like if I don't write
Speaker 1: it down right away, it's gone out of my mind
Speaker 1: and then I forget. But I've yeah, I've gone into
Speaker 1: like the reminders on my calendar is the only way
Speaker 1: I can get stuff done. It's super irritating, but you know,
Speaker 1: there's actually I'm gonna send you a book, well, not
Speaker 1: that you have time to read a book about about
Speaker 1: organizing yourself, but listeners, if you would like a resource.
Speaker 1: I had read this like super cheesy book. It's like
Speaker 1: a you know, ten dollars in Amazon called Getting Things Done.
Speaker 1: It's the cheesiest cover. It's like this guy was like
Speaker 1: a consultant who's on the cover of it, and but
Speaker 1: you read it and he doesn't give you a process
Speaker 1: to remember how to do things. Not really, it's really
Speaker 1: about you having to come up with your own system
Speaker 1: because whatever works for somebody else won't work for you.
Speaker 1: And it's like, however your brain works. Have you ever
Speaker 1: read this? You know? I would give I would give
Speaker 1: it a try. But I'm laughing because I once bought
Speaker 1: a book about adult a d d and how to
Speaker 1: organize everything, which is great, but I couldn't focus to
Speaker 1: read it. There was no pictures. I'm like, this is great.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to send you this. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what am I supposed to do? I'm for me,
Speaker 1: it's visual. If there's like a recipe and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I could make that, but I can't follow the recipe.
Speaker 1: I guess it's it's a thing. So O, They're like
Speaker 1: getting down to brass tacks and the real important things.
Speaker 1: What's in your smoothie? You ask everybody. I know what
Speaker 1: every single one of our guests that has in their smoothie.
Speaker 1: I would like to know what's in your smoothie. In
Speaker 1: my smoothie, it starts with a liquid, and it's been
Speaker 1: almond milk. Sometimes I do um, walnut milk because I
Speaker 1: read that walnuts are good beer brain. I mean basically,
Speaker 1: it's just taste the same. I always have ice, I
Speaker 1: have something chocolate I've been doing, uh, coconut and coconut, um, chocolate,
Speaker 1: collagen powder from my body green. I try to throw
Speaker 1: spinach in and I try to even do frozen because
Speaker 1: it makes it nice and icy. I also put in
Speaker 1: peanut butter. I tried almond butter. I just I know
Speaker 1: almonds are better for you than peanut butter. My doctor
Speaker 1: would not be happy, um, you know, having peanuts. But
Speaker 1: I have peanut butter because it just makes it taste good.
Speaker 1: And I always throw two dates and some chia seeds
Speaker 1: or zen zen basil seeds and that's my smoothie. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I need to write that down. I'm gonna go back
Speaker 1: and listen to the tape. What's in yours? Uh, it's
Speaker 1: going to be what you just described you can also
Speaker 1: put frozen cherries in. That's also really good, like cherry
Speaker 1: and chocolate. That's a nice idea. Yeah, I'm not a
Speaker 1: consistent smoothie drinker. I'm really bad about breakfast. I have
Speaker 1: to admit, like I'm kind of a hard boiled egg
Speaker 1: like savory breakfast person. So that's been my breakfast of late,
Speaker 1: which I know is like not very exciting, but that's good.
Speaker 1: That's good. Okay, you should eat two eggs, not just
Speaker 1: so yeah too too hard boiled eggs, a lot of
Speaker 1: hot sauce, probably not the best choice, but um yeah,
Speaker 1: I love the idea of a smoothie. I wish I
Speaker 1: was a smoothie person. And for some reason, I can
Speaker 1: never get into consistent habit. I think I just haven't
Speaker 1: figured out like the formula that I like that doesn't
Speaker 1: taste like just protein powder, because like that stuff really
Speaker 1: excuse me. On and deer eggs, do you make them
Speaker 1: hot or do you make them ahead of time? Do
Speaker 1: you peel them? Do not peel them? What I do
Speaker 1: not peel them. I keep them peeled in the fridge.
Speaker 1: And I used to boil them every day, and then
Speaker 1: I realized that that was deeply inefficient. So now I
Speaker 1: boil like maybe four at a time, so like two
Speaker 1: days worth. But I won't boil like the entire twelve yea,
Speaker 1: because I really like them hot. But then yeah, I
Speaker 1: like them warmed, so I don't like yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't like it when they're like ice cold, like it's weird.
Speaker 1: I had to bring them up to room temperature. It's
Speaker 1: like a whole thing. And I also like the yellows
Speaker 1: when they're not quite hard yet but not jammy egg yeah,
Speaker 1: but not not the hard boiled eggs, not too jammy,
Speaker 1: just a little jammy. So it's a tough one, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is. I have a tip for you, so based
Speaker 1: on Jennifer Fisher, because I do still read all her
Speaker 1: cooking stuff. You apparently put all the eggs in cold water,
Speaker 1: bring it up to a boil, leave it uncovered, which
Speaker 1: I did not know, Like, bring up to boil, turn
Speaker 1: off the heat, leave it uncovered for six minute exactly,
Speaker 1: and then pour it out and like cold water on top,
Speaker 1: and then it is like just the right amount of
Speaker 1: jammy without being like that kind of runny icky jammy. Right,
Speaker 1: I think that's the check. Seven um, okay, and your
Speaker 1: workout routine. You mentioned your trainer twice a week. What
Speaker 1: are you doing? Um, he does strength and conditioning, so
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, posture things and weights, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm definitely stronger, and he's incorporating some really
Speaker 1: nice neck stretches, which is he wasn't before, so that's
Speaker 1: been really helpful. I do that twice a week. I
Speaker 1: walk twice a week, if not three times a week
Speaker 1: for like an hour and a half, and then I
Speaker 1: do I do little bits like I take the dogs
Speaker 1: in the park in the afternoon or after dinner. My
Speaker 1: favorite things is to take a walk, which depending on time,
Speaker 1: we do or we don't do, so you know I would.
Speaker 1: I'm going to maybe try at Tracy Anderson class this
Speaker 1: summer because she's in sag Harbor. Now I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, Please report back. That's a lot
Speaker 1: of like micro movements and like harm bounds. I feel
Speaker 1: like everybody stresses me out. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I can handle that, but people swear by it. I have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: two of my really close friends are obsessed with it
Speaker 1: and they go and Trebeck all the time and they
Speaker 1: love it. So let me know. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: do it. It's fine, you don't have the time. My kidding,
Speaker 1: you know me, I'm trying to pretend like I'm that girl.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. UM your cocktail of choice. I
Speaker 1: think we already know the answer to this, but I
Speaker 1: want to hear it from you anyway. Well, it's usually vodka,
Speaker 1: but I on the weekends I will have vodka on
Speaker 1: the rocks, and I always ask for a side of
Speaker 1: rocks with three olives, and I love that. And then
Speaker 1: during the week I've been putting in UM a touch
Speaker 1: of soda with the vodka and fresh lime juice, sometimes
Speaker 1: fresh cucumber juice if I can get it, or just
Speaker 1: modeled cucumbers cement and just more of a hydrating vodka.
Speaker 1: And that actually does work really well for me. I
Speaker 1: love it. And then do you, UM, do you have
Speaker 1: this like a special vodka that you love or like
Speaker 1: a brand of vodka that you love? Well. I've always
Speaker 1: been a Tito's girl. And my chiropractor who tests like
Speaker 1: muscle testing on me, he said, you know you don't
Speaker 1: react well to corn. Why don't you try potato vodka?
Speaker 1: And I said, all right, So I've been drinking chopin.
Speaker 1: I don't feel any difference chopin or tetos. They're both good. Okay.
Speaker 1: So I did not know about that it was made
Speaker 1: from corn. I didn't know you can make vodka from corn.
Speaker 1: I'm not like a big I didn't know much about vodka.
Speaker 1: But I just read that today on Jennifer Fisher's Instagram
Speaker 1: that it was corn and I was like, wait what?
Speaker 1: And I need to find a different vodka. So chipon
Speaker 1: was what she recommended to Hot Tip. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: check it out. Any guilty pleasure, it's not like food
Speaker 1: based guilty pleasures, but like anything else, like do you
Speaker 1: have like a do you remember in sects in the city?
Speaker 1: If you watch that, Like there's a whole episode where
Speaker 1: Carrie Bradshaw was talking about her secret single behavior and
Speaker 1: like what she would do like when nobody was around,
Speaker 1: Do you have any like secret boppy behavior when everybody's gone, Well,
Speaker 1: my secret guilty pleasure are things like arms clogs about you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't buy you know, fancy expensive pointy
Speaker 1: high heels with red bottoms anymore that were so uncomfortable
Speaker 1: I couldn't walk. But I do own a three pair
Speaker 1: of arms clogs, and I am now wearing a pair
Speaker 1: of Chloe, um, basically rubber shoes platforms that you know,
Speaker 1: if anyone's listening to this podcast and knows how much
Speaker 1: you know Airmes or Chloe costs, it's stupid. But I
Speaker 1: am wearing rubber shoes by Chloe right now and they're
Speaker 1: really comfortable. So that those are my guilty pleasures because
Speaker 1: they do make me feel guilty how much these things cost. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're just crazy expensive. But you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: you're not like spendy, you know, I think if those
Speaker 1: are if those are what you're spending on, I feel
Speaker 1: you're don't okay and that's not hurting anyone. So definitely
Speaker 1: I'm okay. Any daily habits that help get you through
Speaker 1: your day, um, checking in with my husband, honestly, you
Speaker 1: know that really helps a lot. And no, just hopefully
Speaker 1: drinking water, which I haven't done a good job of
Speaker 1: today either, But it's that in meditation. If I would
Speaker 1: just stop everything else and focus on those two things
Speaker 1: for a week, I bet it would be the most
Speaker 1: life changing, epic week for me. I love it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna report back on that too, So Bobby you
Speaker 1: had this favorite question that you've asked all season long
Speaker 1: of every one of our guests, and now I would
Speaker 1: like to turn the tables to you and ask you,
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown, if you could tell someone that's listening one
Speaker 1: thing that would change their life for the better, what
Speaker 1: would it be. It would have to be be true,
Speaker 1: Just be true, be your authentic self, and just be yourself. Helf.
Speaker 1: That's there's really no better advice I can give anyone. Well,
Speaker 1: I love that advice, and I think that's a beautiful
Speaker 1: note to end on. I love you so much, Bobby.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I love you too, Thank you too, And
Speaker 1: I look forward to having our chit chats on and
Speaker 1: our walks in the Hamptons. So me too. Yeah, thank
Speaker 1: you for so much for taking the plunge and doing
Speaker 1: this with me. And hopefully a lot of our listeners
Speaker 1: will have discovered you and find you whatever you're doing,
Speaker 1: and I'll be back here at some point doing the
Speaker 1: next version of whatever the important Things becomes, because unlike you,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what it's going to be. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna do it. Launch an iterate. It's just that's
Speaker 1: the tech one oh one. Bobby, You're definitely an entrepreneur. Well,
Speaker 1: thanks and thanks Thanks Angelie, Thank you Ryan our amazing producer.
Speaker 1: Thank you Ryan, Thanks Bobby, love you even n