1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: What's up everybody? First day of June. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 3: We are inching closer to the NBA Finals already. Here 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 3: I'm at Cie Belanyas alongside former All Pro safety Carry Roads, 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 3: hanging out with you from Fox Sports Radio here in 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 3: LA and once again, Carrie, so much to talk about. 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to squeeze it all in these three 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: hours with. 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: You, because so much happened this week. 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: But we're gonna start right away in the NBA with 11 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: last night's elimination game from Madison Square Garden Knicks, or 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: excuse me, not from Madison Square Garden, from Fieldhouse right 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: in Indiana, as the. 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: Knicks took on the Pacers in Game six. 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: What I want to know this were your thoughts going 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: into the game different. 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: Than the thoughts you had after the game was over? 18 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 4: No change? 19 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 5: I mean, remember, right I called this. I said the 20 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 5: Pacers would win this series. I didn't know, I mean, 21 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 5: I mean, who knows, six, seven, whatever, But I picked 22 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 5: them to win. They had a disappointed, disappointing Game five, 23 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 5: so I knew they'd come out and played better than 24 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 5: they did in Game five. You know, Tyreez Haliburton came out, 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 5: and he got into the game a little bit different 26 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 5: than Game five. He kind of eased into it in 27 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 5: game five. Game six, he was different, a little bit 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 5: more assertive. He was getting other guys involved. Obviously, Pascal 29 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 5: was amazing, and he was the one that kind of 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 5: bridged the gap the whole series. 31 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 6: But this team, I told you, they're deep. They got 32 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 6: a lot of people that can score. 33 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 5: They can score from all levels, and they play hard 34 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 5: and relentless. And so watching in game six the Pace, 35 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 5: I text my buddy during the game, I was like, dude, 36 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 5: I'm tired watching. Yes, And so you could see the 37 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 5: Knicks just wearing down, and that was the biggest thing 38 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 5: for me. 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: It looked like the Knicks were worn down when the 40 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: game started. And I really thought the Knicks would push 41 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: a Game seven, not that they were gonna win Game seven. 42 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: I did not think that. 43 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: I thought the Pacers would win, But I did think 44 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: the Knicks had the moment menum kind of maybe figured 45 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: out what they needed to do in order to compete 46 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: against the Pace. 47 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: That played more Pacers. 48 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 3: Correct and just how much it was going to take 49 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: of them. Now, could they do it, that's a different question. 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: Maybe they did figure it out and they just couldn't 51 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: do it anyway. But that entire game, they looked tired, 52 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: in my opinion, from the minute it started to the end, 53 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: and it was like the Pacers just never let up, 54 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: and they never did during the entire run of their playoffs. 55 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: I mean, let's be real, but it was a little bit. 56 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 3: I was a little shocked to see the lack of 57 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: hustle and intensity that the Knicks came out with in 58 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: this game. 59 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: But I think it's just they were tired, like it 60 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: had nothing to do that. 61 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: They didn't want to come out like that. I'm sure 62 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: they wanted to, but they can only do so much. 63 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: And we've talked about the Pacers or the playoffs being 64 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: a game of adjustments, and the Pacers have done adjustments 65 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: like here and there, but they know what their. 66 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 2: Game plan is. It's been the same game plan. 67 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: Over and over, so the adjustments are very minimal. It's 68 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 3: just like, Okay, maybe you guard him this time, let's 69 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 3: do this switch instead, not major changes like Tom Thibadau 70 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: and the Knicks had to do, which dive was to 71 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 3: dive into their bench. 72 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: Had you done that earlier, maybe you would have found success. 73 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: A little earlier and what. 74 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 6: And what did I say last week, Monty? I said, 75 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 6: Landry shammit? 76 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: Can shammit? 77 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: He came in played well in this series. 78 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 5: Delon right, Mitchell Robinson obse obviously heart who they switched 79 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 5: something brought to the bench as well. Then I mean, 80 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 5: you can go Deuce McBride. All those guys can play. 81 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 5: So the fact that they were playing such a short 82 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 5: leash with those guys, it just didn't make any sense. 83 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 5: And I know he's stubborn. I know coaches are, but 84 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: the stubborn ones don't last. You have to make adjustments, 85 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 5: you have to be flexible. And you can tell with 86 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 5: Rick Carlisle right, Brian, So, Thomas Bryant was the first 87 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 5: big man coming off the bench for them at the 88 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 5: beginning of the series. 89 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 6: He had struggles with Mitchell Robinson. What does he do? 90 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 5: He goes to Bradley, he switches, He takes away Thomas 91 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 5: Bryant's minutes. Then has enough confidence to know in this 92 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 5: particular game six, Brian could be a better matchup in 93 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: this particular moment. In this game he comes in and 94 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 5: hits three threes and like, that's not crazy, nuts, that's crazy. 95 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: But you hit it right on the head. 96 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: It's just that Carlile has been playing with all of 97 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: these players throughout the whole regular season into the playoffs. 98 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: Like he's he's not testing anything new. 99 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: He knows what he has and he's just making slight adjustments. 100 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: With Tom Tibadau in the Knicks, it felt like they 101 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: were trying to figure it out as they went. 102 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: Yes, like completely new ways to win. 103 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: And that's where you could tell how much really the 104 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: Pacers depth and how just well run. 105 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: They are as a team. 106 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 3: The camaraderie from Rick Carlile all the way to their 107 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: last player on the bench. They're all on the exact 108 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 3: same page and you can see. Yes, one of the 109 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: biggest pages that they're all conc in distant lyon is 110 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: their defense. I was so many times where I just 111 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: was like, you can't. You can't have a fast break 112 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: point off of the Pacers. It's really hard to do 113 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: that because they are so in sync with that. It's 114 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: almost like like a song. You're all you want to 115 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: be all on the same melody, you want to be 116 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: on the same tune. You want to you know, you 117 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: know exactly what I'm talking about. Yes, Yes, because if 118 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: one person is off key. It ruins the entire It 119 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: doesn't matter if you did three minutes of a great song, 120 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: that one moment that you were off key. I'll never 121 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: forget it. No, and it might ruin the entire three minutes. 122 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: It will, and it will, he says, it will will. Yeah, 123 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 3: And that's. 124 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: Where the Knicks. I felt like they were off. 125 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: Key on their defense throughout the postseason, throughout this series 126 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: so many different times, including in this game last night. 127 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: There were moments where the Nicks scored quickly and then 128 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: the Pacers were already on the other side. 129 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, they would score quickly and it didn't matter. 130 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: The Pacers scored faster then you getting back and I 131 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: was like, or on a on a long rebound, how 132 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 3: are you not getting back there? Where is the miscommunication here, Carrie? 133 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, obviously there's there has been some leaks already 134 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 5: coming out. Sure you've seen yes, yeah, yeah, I'll knocked out. 135 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 5: There's some uh some some car Anthony town stuff that's 136 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 5: come out about him not being a great communicator on 137 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 5: defense and not being in the right positions. And obviously 138 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: the fact that these things come out so quickly, you know, 139 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 5: there is some validity to it so like we don't 140 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: know to what extent and always they're going to be. 141 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 5: They're gonna be scapegoats in a playoff series, doesn't matter 142 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 5: how great you play. People are talking about Jalen Bronson 143 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 5: didn't show up in game six and it's spectacular his 144 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 5: play as his playoff run has been somebody's got to 145 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 5: be the fall guy. Yes, And it seems like right now, 146 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 5: which has been part of Kat's whole journey in the 147 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 5: NBA in general and all the stops he's been is 148 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 5: he's been a liability, liability, liability on d right. And 149 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 5: so if you can't communicate and be in the right positions, 150 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 5: I mean, forget effort. If you can't do that stuff first, 151 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 5: then you're putting your team at a disadvantage. So it 152 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 5: sound sounds like it's coming from there, stemming from there. 153 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: In case you missed it, this this did come out 154 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: hours after this game was over on a story on 155 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: the Athletic and basically in it, they say that the 156 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: coaches expressed frustration with Karl Anthony Town's defensive habits and 157 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: that he constantly executed incorrect decisions but did not coverages 158 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: but did not tell them why. So it kind of 159 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: just broke everyone apart again. 160 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: And that's because looking. 161 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: At Jalen Brunson, it was like, yeah, man, you struggled 162 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: like you You did not come out offensively the way 163 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: we've seen you do innother games. 164 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: But you're tired. You could see how ghast you guys are. 165 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: But when the defense breaks down, it's like that off 166 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: key in a song. It stands out and it makes 167 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: you kind of cringe a little bit. You missing shots, 168 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: You're like, just keep shooting. You're gonna get there. 169 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: That's what you keep your players. You'll get in a rhythm. 170 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: When you cannot play defense on the same key, on 171 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: the same no, on the same page, it stands out, 172 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: and it stands out more than an offensive player struggling 173 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: in a big. 174 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 5: Game, one hundred percent. And you can see it just 175 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 5: from you know, from individual to individual. Right, So everybody 176 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: else is switching. But with Karl Anton, the towns there, 177 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 5: they're running a drop coverage, right, so he doesn't have 178 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 5: to switch on Halliburton or whoever tries to get the switch. 179 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 5: So if that's happening, right, if it's if he is 180 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 5: the drop guy, that means he has to communicate, He 181 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 5: has to say what he's going to do. And if 182 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 5: he's going to play drop with the shooter, obviously you 183 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 5: got to come out a little bit higher to defend 184 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 5: the shot because if they're running drop coverage with you 185 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 5: in particular, in mind, they're running that play over and 186 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 5: over to get you in the drop because they know 187 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 5: you are so like, you have to make an adjustment. 188 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 5: And obviously he wasn't, and he was maybe he wasn't 189 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: willing to switch it, and so it's you can watch 190 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 5: the game is very simple when you can understand what 191 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 5: they're doing and. 192 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: When you know defense wins games. 193 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 3: It's it's almost like when I read the story, it 194 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: did feel like they were just kind of like it 195 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: almost comes off like he doesn't take defense as serious 196 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: as offense. And it's like, Carl, my guy, the offense 197 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: is at his highest across all the teams. 198 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: Everybody's good. 199 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: Six man's off the bench could be starters, you know, 200 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: like everybody. 201 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: Is really good in the NBA. 202 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: There's just now superstars megastars, but everybody is really good 203 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 3: and anybody can get hot at any given time. How 204 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: you stop that is with your defense, Like you can't 205 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: let that unscrew itself. When you get tired the offense. 206 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: Everybody gets tired. You get you know the expression when 207 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: when your jump shot is short, it's like your legs 208 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: are tired, like it's not there but your defense. And 209 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: it almost seems like the way I read it is 210 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: that he just didn't take it as seriously as he 211 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: his offensive game. 212 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 5: Well he should have because his offensive game sucked that 213 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 5: game as well, So he really didn't give them anything, 214 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 5: is what we're talking about at the moment. And that's 215 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 5: part of it too. I mean, I mean, he was 216 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 5: obviously kind of hampered during this series too. We kept, 217 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 5: you know, favoring his knee a little bit. Who knows 218 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 5: how much that was a factor. But I mean, I 219 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 5: hate the immediate blame game here because obviously there's more 220 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 5: more to go around than to him, you know, but 221 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 5: you could see him he was really struggling in Game 222 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: six and. 223 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: The immediate blame game win. 224 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: Now that it's all been said and done and we're 225 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: done with the series, you can see that the Pacers 226 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 3: are the better teams, Like overall, Yeah, maybe you have 227 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: flashier players in New York next with Jaylen Brunson, sure, 228 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: but the better team was the Indiana Pacers, and they 229 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: won because of what they've been doing. We've said this 230 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: last week, well they've been doing for the last two 231 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: and a half years. This didn't just happen overnight. They've 232 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: been working towards this and every single one of them 233 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: knows their rule, believes in their role, and is willing 234 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: to put the other player's success before before themselves. And 235 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: I don't know how many teams actually do that, aside 236 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: from them and the Thunder. 237 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 4: The two teams that are in the finals. 238 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: Yes, and we are gonna talk about the Thunder in 239 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: Game one, which will be on Thursday, but we are 240 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: not there yet, so you're gonna have to stick around. 241 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: In fact, I'm gonna ask our NBA insider next, Mark Stein, 242 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: if this whole thing with Karl Anthony Townsend his defense 243 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: has been something. 244 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: That he's heard and that if that's why the Timberwolves 245 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: decided to move on from him. 246 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: I'm curious to know, Carrie, and I'm sure you are, 247 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: so don't go anywhere. 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What's up everybody? 254 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: Nicely done? 255 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 4: There? 256 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: I am Monty belaanyos alongside form are all safety carry 257 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: roads hanging out with you on this June first? 258 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,359 Speaker 4: June June June. 259 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: Is I don't I don't even I don't want to 260 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: talk about any I can't believe it's already June. 261 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 2: I am that person. 262 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 4: I can't anyway, I'm. 263 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: Deflecting anyway, diving here into the NBA playoffs. As we 264 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: saw last night that the New York Knicks getting eliminated 265 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: by the Indiana Pacers. 266 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: What does that mean? Our NBA insider Mark Snine here 267 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: with us to just dissect it all. Mark, how is 268 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 2: it going? Did you hear it's June first? 269 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 8: I did hear that? True? 270 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: Where has this year gone? Is my first question? 271 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: No? 272 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: No, no, let's dive into this Knicks and the Pacers. 273 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw the story that came out hours 274 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: after about Carl Anthony Towns and how maybe the Knicks 275 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 3: were frustrated with his defensive habits that he maybe does 276 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 3: not communicate well and how it would break down. My 277 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 3: first question to you, Mark, had you heard this before? 278 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: Is this there's a reason why the Timberwolves moved on 279 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: from him? Just any more insight into that story that 280 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: broke late after they were eliminated. 281 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 9: I honestly think it was hard for the Timberwolves to 282 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 9: move on from him because last year was the best 283 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 9: year that Minnesota had had in twenty years. And to 284 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 9: make that trade when they did right on the eve 285 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 9: of training camp, the weekend before training camp, when you 286 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 9: think about it, it really kind of set the tone 287 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 9: for what a circus of a season this was in 288 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 9: terms of trades, because no one was really expecting that. 289 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 9: I mean, the Knicks have long been mentioned as a 290 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 9: team with Karl Anthony Town's interest, so the fact that 291 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 9: he ended up with the Knicks wasn't a huge surprise, 292 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 9: but the timing was a massive surprise. And look, Minnesota, 293 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 9: what they really did it for it was twofold. I mean, 294 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 9: they thought that Randall could be more of a playmaker 295 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 9: for them, which they badly needed given that their best 296 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 9: point guard is Mike Conley, who's approaching twenty years in 297 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 9: the league. So they wanted Randall's playmaking. But they also 298 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 9: wanted the financial flexibility that came with a player who's 299 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 9: making half what Towns makes. Because the Wolves want to 300 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 9: keep Nazrid, they want to keep Nikaiel Alexander Walker. So 301 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 9: there were a lot of you know, there were on 302 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 9: court and off court factors that led to the trade. 303 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 9: From the Minnesota side, I think Karl Anthony Towns was 304 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 9: exactly what the Knicks were expecting. When he has to 305 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 9: be the five man, there are going to be defensive issues, 306 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 9: but if you play a traditional center next to him, 307 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 9: it potentially limits the damage he can do at. 308 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 8: The offensive end. 309 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 9: And it's his offense that New York really wanted. So 310 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 9: I think the issues that New York had defensively, they 311 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 9: knew they were going to encounter that. You know, Brunson 312 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 9: and Towns, neither one of them is ever going to 313 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 9: to be regarded as some sort of defensive stopper, right, 314 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 9: and so that's just stuff that the Knicks. 315 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 8: Have to deal with. 316 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 9: Let's see what happens going forward. I mean, it is 317 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 9: still a pretty successful season, and we're just gonna have 318 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 9: to see how drastic the changes they make actually are. 319 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 8: It's hard to get a read. 320 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 9: On that now, but this was only year one, and 321 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 9: again it was thrown together right before training camp. 322 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 8: For both teams. 323 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 9: Both the losing conference finals teams had to deal with 324 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 9: this massive change. I mean, I'd be curious to hear 325 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 9: what you know, what carry would thing playing on a 326 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 9: team that you know traded you made that kind of 327 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 9: trade just before. And look, an NFL camp is much longer, 328 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 9: and the NBA camp is a week and these teams 329 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 9: start playing games. So it's just it's just a different 330 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 9: world and we're going to have to see We're gonna 331 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 9: have to see how drastic the moves the Knicks make 332 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 9: are knicks make? 333 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 8: And response now. 334 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 5: Well, to answer you really quickly, Mark, before I go 335 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 5: to my question, it's extremely hard even for football. And 336 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 5: eight we got Brett Favv come in during training camp 337 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 5: and we had a team that was ready we thought 338 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 5: to contend and started out slow, ended up picking it 339 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 5: up as the season went on. We were at nine 340 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 5: and three and ended up losing the last four games 341 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 5: and not making the playoffs. So hard, it's hard. 342 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 6: And so to answer your question, yes. 343 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 9: Just a shock to the system for this to happen 344 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 9: when it does. 345 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 5: It was crazy. Yeah, it was so much, but I 346 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 5: want to go back. I want to stay with the 347 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 5: Knicks for a minute. And there was a comment I 348 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 5: think a couple of years ago, about or maybe a 349 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 5: year and a half ago, from Becky Hammond, who was 350 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 5: on the record, saying that you know, the Knicks would 351 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 5: not win with Jalen Brunson being their starting point guard 352 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 5: or being their best player. She said, right now, he's 353 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 5: their best player. Do you think there is a world 354 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 5: where he can get them over the top with the 355 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 5: addition of Karl Anthony Towns or what do you see 356 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 5: me at it to help a guy like Brunson get 357 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 5: over the top. 358 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 9: I'm such a Brunson fan that, like, I'm not laying any. 359 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 8: Of this at his doorsteps. 360 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 9: I mean, he's he's so far exceeded what was expected 361 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 9: of him. 362 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 8: I mean, you guys know, I live in Dallas. 363 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 9: I was here covering the Mavericks when on the same 364 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 9: day twenty eighteen, they drafted both Luka Dantic and Jalen Brunson. 365 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 9: Jalen Brunson was the thirty third pick. Nobody saw any 366 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 9: of this coming, and he's already exceeded expectations to such 367 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 9: a degree that. I'm not gonna say that he can't 368 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 9: do a B or C because the other thing about 369 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 9: Jalen Brunson is he's found a way to get better 370 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 9: every year. But the reality is, if you have Brunson 371 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 9: in Towns in your starting five and in your closing five, 372 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 9: there are going to be defensive liabilities that can be 373 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 9: exploited and you have to have the rest of the 374 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 9: team built around them to. 375 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 8: Deal with that. 376 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 6: Market. 377 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 5: Isn't that like og and Bridges, it's those two should 378 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 5: be those guys. 379 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 9: Right, And I think that's I think that's a you know, 380 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 9: a good starting point. And og An Andobi had a 381 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 9: really strong season. 382 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 8: You know, Bridges season was much more up and down. 383 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 9: But again, that's kind of it's hard to know this 384 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 9: quickly after it ends. 385 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 8: Right, do the Knicks feel like they are a tweak 386 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 8: or two away or do they want to do something 387 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 8: more drastic? And I mean, look, they did give up 388 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 8: so much to get Bridges. 389 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 9: I mean, that's that really cleaned them out in terms 390 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 9: of trade assets. I mean, I'm not saying they can't 391 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 9: make another major move in the near future if something arises, but. 392 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 8: It's hard to just it's hard. 393 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 9: To pinpoint it this quickly after a disappointing loss in it. 394 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 9: This is a major disappointment. I mean, the East was 395 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 9: there for the taking. No Celtics, Philly never got there, Milwaukee, 396 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 9: you know, didn't have Dame, couldn't get out of the 397 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 9: first round, Miami traded Jimmy Butler away mid season. This 398 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 9: East was there for the taking and they have to 399 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 9: live with not being able to get it done. 400 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: How much blame, per se of the blame pie would 401 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 3: you put on Tom Thibodeau, Because it just seemed like 402 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 3: the coach made changes but that were too late. He 403 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: didn't dive into his bench early enough to get them going. 404 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: So I don't think he's on a chopping blank as 405 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: a coach. But how much blame would you put on Thibodeaux? 406 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 9: I mean, look, people have been whispering about this and 407 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 9: wondering about this, but you know, I think it's unfair. 408 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 8: I mean, I think he's done a really good. 409 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 9: Job there and you know what, we've done nothing so 410 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 9: far but talk about the probably need to bring the 411 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 9: Pacers into the conversation like they they you know, it's 412 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 9: hard to believe they were sub five hundred when the 413 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 9: calendar flipped in January. First, in mid December, they were 414 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 9: nine and fourteen. I mean they since the calendar flipped, 415 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 9: they've been one of the five best teams in the league. 416 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 9: And look, I you know, I'm going to talk about 417 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 9: this because I got my Western Conference picked so wrong. 418 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 8: I mean I did pick the Pacers in six. 419 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 9: I thought they had I thought Brunson was going to 420 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 9: be the best player in the series, and I thought 421 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 9: that the Pacers had the more well rounded team. And 422 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 9: I think I think that's what we saw and you saw. 423 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 9: I mean, Siakam was a huge difference maker, and the 424 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 9: defenders that the Pacers have did make bruntson work extra hard. 425 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 9: So I do think the Pacers are a big part 426 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 9: of this. 427 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 6: Mark and I picked them to win as well. 428 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 5: And one of the main reasons I did, obviously the 429 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 5: depth and also everybody buying in. But the main factor 430 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 5: for me in this series, and I know you would 431 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 5: agree with me on this and spending a lot of 432 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 5: time covering the Dallas Mavericks was Rick Carlisle. Let's talk 433 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 5: about him and what he's brought to that team as well. 434 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's really interesting because you know, he's always 435 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 9: been known as someone who want wants control of his team. 436 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 9: And you know in Dallas the year they want it all, 437 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 9: you know, he seated a lot of the offense to 438 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 9: Jason Kidd and that was seen as a big factor 439 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 9: in the Mavericks success. 440 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 8: You know, that was almost fifteen years ago. 441 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 9: I mean, you know he has the way he has 442 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 9: transformed himself. This is a team that plays at a 443 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 9: relentless pace. He gives his guys a lot of freedom. 444 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 9: You saw early on first play of the game they 445 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 9: ran a play to perfection and guys on the bench 446 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 9: are like going over to congratulate the coach for the 447 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 9: first play call of the game, like so that. I mean, 448 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 9: they they really have a good thing going there. And 449 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 9: you know, I jokingly I saw him early in the 450 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 9: season and they came to Dallas and put on quite 451 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 9: an offensive show, and I was I saw him after 452 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 9: and I said, when did you turn. 453 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 8: Into Doug mo? 454 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 9: Like what what's gotten into you? Like with this free 455 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 9: wheeling offense. But I mean the pacer it's I mean, 456 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 9: this really is going to be like the Vibes Finals. 457 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 9: I mean, you heard Miles Turner at the podium last 458 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 9: night just talking about like friendship is being a factor. 459 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 9: And like with both the Pacers and the thunder like 460 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 9: you actually believe it when you watch the way these teams, 461 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 9: how they get along, and just like the vibes that 462 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 9: that are you know, that are visible, which is is 463 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 9: not something we've seen every day in the NBA. So, 464 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 9: I mean it's the Pacers been a great story. 465 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 8: I mean they to me, they. 466 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 9: Are They have been the most underrated team in the 467 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 9: league for months and so amazing validation for them to 468 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 9: get all the way to the finals for the first 469 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 9: time in twenty five years. And the problem now is 470 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 9: they've got a sixty eight when Bulldozer waiting for him. 471 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's the issue. 472 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 10: Mark. 473 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 5: I'm so happy you use the word vibe today. I'm 474 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 5: I'm feeling so good right now. This is amazing. I 475 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 5: love it. 476 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: The vibes are high. Yes, you are listening to Fox 477 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. I'm Anti Bilanya's alongside former All. 478 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: Pro safety Carry Roads and we're talking to our NBA insider, 479 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: Mark Sneine. Mark, did you agree with Pascal siakam bean 480 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: the conference MVP? 481 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 8: I mean it was a coin flip. I mean, you know, 482 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 8: I've been in that position. 483 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 9: Where you know I'm on the voting panel, and people 484 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 9: don't like the way it turnout. It turns out, so 485 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 9: I'm not gonna I'm not going. 486 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 8: To criticize my colleagues. 487 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 9: It's your you know, when you get that ballot, it's 488 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 9: your vote. 489 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 8: You pick who you believe in, and you know, five 490 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 8: fours as close as it gets. 491 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 9: Really, I have to say that I was a little 492 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 9: bit surprised when it happened. But then when you really 493 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 9: look at the game to game production that the Pacers 494 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 9: got out of Fiakum, you could go either way, and 495 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 9: you know, does it It doesn't really matter, Like I mean, 496 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 9: the Pacers have not won an NBA championship. They won 497 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 9: three in the NBA. I really think nobody there really cares. 498 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 9: They want to win it all. 499 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 8: That's what matters. 500 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Game one NBA Finals Thursday, Thunder versus the Pacers, 501 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: a very high offensive team and a very high defensive team. 502 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: Do you want to give us an early prediction of 503 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: what's going to happen? 504 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 8: I'm not making my pixels. No, I mean look, I mean, look, 505 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 8: you know. 506 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 9: The Thunder have been so impressive and when you just 507 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 9: look at the hit, when you look at at all 508 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 9: the metrics from the Thunders. They should win. They should 509 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 9: win it all the history when you look at just 510 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 9: their point differential. I mean, they were the most dominant 511 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 9: regular season team we've ever seen. And the defense, you 512 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 9: know they have. They have four wins by thirty in 513 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 9: the playoffs. No team in history has ever done that. 514 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 9: I mean, they've just shown us over and over and 515 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 9: over again that they are the team of the season. 516 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 9: It's up to them now to finish the job. But 517 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 9: I also have to say that, you know, I I'm 518 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 9: a grudge holder in life. 519 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 8: I have trouble letting grudges go. 520 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 9: I love the way I love the way Halliburton has 521 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 9: used this overrated thing. 522 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 8: It just fuels him. 523 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 9: And this team has convinced itself. I mean, they really 524 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 9: have convinced themselves that everybody is against them. And you know, 525 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 9: can they do it four more times against a historically 526 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 9: great team. 527 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 8: You know we're going to find out. 528 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 9: Yeah, I just hope people watch it, Like I just 529 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 9: I'm already dreading the These are such small markets. No 530 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 9: one's gonna watch. Like, if you like basketball, why wouldn't 531 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 9: you watch. 532 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a great series. But yes, 533 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 3: on paper. It seems like the thunder should should have 534 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 3: their way. We'll see what the pacers. 535 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 6: To be interesting. 536 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: It is gonna be interesting. Mark. 537 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us. Glad that you 538 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: were back in the country last week. 539 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 4: We lost you phone. 540 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 8: My phone works, so that's good news. 541 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: Yes, no, thank you so much. We will talk to 542 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: you soon. 543 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 10: Mark. 544 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 8: All right, take care, guys, talk to you can call. 545 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: You can call, not call. 546 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: You can follow Mark Stein on ex Twitter at the 547 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 3: Stein line. 548 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 6: Or if you're lucky, stick around. I may slade you 549 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 6: as numbers may be able to do. 550 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: If you paid its engine, we'll drop these drags with 551 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: a number and then you get it. 552 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: We're just kidding, Mark. We're not giving your number out. Carrie, 553 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: real quick. Did you agree with the MVP last night? 554 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 4: It's kind of what Mark said, It wasn't tass up. 555 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 5: I think Pascal for the most part, was the best 556 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 5: player in that series, though, I mean in its entirety. Obviously, 557 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 5: Halliburton had moments where I think his moments stick out. 558 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: His moments stick out. 559 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 5: So you will remember those a little bit more. Where 560 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 5: Pascal is just consistent, right, He. 561 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: Was consistent the whole game. 562 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 3: He also kept them in that game, in that first 563 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: half by himself, but the moments were so high for 564 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 3: Halliburton and. 565 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: Then Lo at the same time. 566 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: You know, so, I I think I would have voted 567 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 3: Tyre's Halliburn if I'm being completely honest. 568 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: But yes, once you look. 569 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: At it, you understood why why it went to Pascal Siakam. 570 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: I understand why Martin Weiss is here. He's here to 571 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: give us the latest on what's going on. 572 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 11: Martin and I definitely would have been the MVP. I 573 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 11: wouldn't have taken two steps forward if I was. 574 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: You see that thought it was gonna be it. I 575 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: mean I would have voted for I thought so too. 576 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,239 Speaker 4: I mean it was a one margin, it was. 577 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 11: But it just goes to show you you can't count 578 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 11: your chickens before they're hatching. 579 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: No, not at all, agreed, Agreed. 580 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 11: Tyres Heliverton chickenless, top of the seventh inning, the Twins 581 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 11: and the Mariners scoreless. Top of the sixth inning, Arizona. 582 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 11: What they won, I'm sorry, three to one lead over 583 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 11: Washington and going to the bottom of the second inning, 584 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 11: Padres with a one to nothing lead over the Pirates. 585 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 11: Earlier today we saw the Rangers bop the Cardinals eight 586 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 11: to one, Red Sox over the Braves three to one, 587 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 11: Orioles beat the White Sox three to two. Brewers with 588 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 11: a five to two win over the Phillies. Brewers winners 589 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 11: are seventh straight. The Blue Jays double up the A's 590 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 11: eight to four. Same thing with the Guardians and the 591 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 11: Angels four to two. The Mets beat the Rockies five 592 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 11: to three. One Soto had a home run, so did 593 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 11: Lindor Pete. Alonzo had a three run homer. 594 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: And the Rockies have lost fifty games. 595 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 11: They haven't even played sixty yet they know it's nine 596 00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 11: fifty nine. 597 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 4: Yes, that's bad. 598 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 11: Think about something you've done sixty times that you failed 599 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 11: doing fifty of. 600 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 4: Them, and to keep going and to keep trying. 601 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: Fans, there are fans in the stands. 602 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 4: Like they got dollar drinks and dollar hot dogs. 603 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: Well listen, then I would be there too. 604 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 4: Do you want to go to Colorado? Yeah? 605 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 10: Right? 606 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 11: The only thing you have to be passed, like maybe 607 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 11: just when the some the opposing team is. 608 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 4: Up the bat, you got to look out. You might 609 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 4: get hit by a home runer. I actually have a 610 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 4: friend in Denver and that is exactly the case. Apparently 611 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: the concessions that. 612 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 6: Are people there love that exactly. 613 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 11: The most important, the most expensive thing is probably the parking, 614 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 11: all right. The real baseball teams, the Giants, the forty 615 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 11: two win over the Mayor, the Marlins, the Tigers edge 616 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 11: the Royals one to nothing, Astros over Raised one to nothing. 617 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: In the Cubs beat the Reds seven to three. In 618 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 4: the French. 619 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 11: Open, two seat Carlos Alkariz defeated American thirteen seats Ben 620 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 11: Shelton in six sets. American and twelve seed Tommy Paul 621 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 11: and Alchoriz will face each other in the quarter finals. 622 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 11: And you don't have any basketball or hockey until like 623 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 11: go for. 624 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 4: A long long time from now. So I back to 625 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 4: you guys. 626 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: Thank you Maria, and you are listening to Fox Sports Radio. 627 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: Yes, the picking Pascal siakam is the MVP of the 628 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Championship was not a mistake. But Carrie, there 629 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: was a major mistake in college baseball this past Friday 630 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: between Oregon and Utah Valley. 631 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: If you are listening and you have not seen this play. 632 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: Look it up because it is the worst call that 633 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: I have ever seen in my entire life. 634 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: Carrie, do you agree or does I send it to you? 635 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 6: You sent it to me, and I was like, this 636 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 6: is awful, This is awful. 637 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: This is awful. 638 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 3: So the Ducks, Oregon Ducks had a player on first 639 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: and third and a guy I think it was a 640 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 3: sackfly so deep in the outfields, and the runner on 641 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: first is running all the way to home. They're down 642 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: at this point two runs or they're trying to cut 643 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 3: the deficit. They run, and then the guy first base 644 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: is running towards home. The catcher is completely no questions asked, 645 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 3: blocking the runner's path and blocking home plate. He gets 646 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: the ball thrown to him and misses it, touches off 647 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: the glove of the catcher, and then the Oregon runner 648 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: keeps running but like kind of braces himself and kind 649 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 3: of like. 650 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, runs into him, runs into him, touches the base. 651 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: They call it originally as a run to cut the 652 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: deficit to one at that point, that's right. 653 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: And then they stop the game. They talked for how 654 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: long seven minutes? 655 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 3: Seven minutes and they come out and say, oh, no, 656 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: malicious intent by the runner. 657 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: I don't know why I became British in I don't know. 658 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 3: Why, because it was a stupid call, well malicious, that 659 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: malicious intent by the runner. He gets ejected from the 660 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: game and then cannot play in the next game. 661 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, that was bad. 662 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: It was awful. 663 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 6: I didn't see it. 664 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 5: I knew you were up in arms about it, so 665 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 5: when you sent it to him, I actually sat there 666 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 5: and watched the whole thing, and I got up in 667 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 5: arms about it. I was like, first and foremost, if 668 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 5: you get the call wrong, you get the call wrong, cool, 669 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 5: that's fine, But you throw the kid out and then 670 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 5: he can't. 671 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 6: Play the next game. 672 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 5: You can play the NeXT's Do you know how crazy 673 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 5: this is for these kids in this moment, this, this 674 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 5: is maybe their last chance to do this. 675 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 6: And I don't know this. 676 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: This ISNA baseball. 677 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 5: Champion, yes, And I don't know if that kid's going 678 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 5: to make it to the pros. And I don't know 679 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 5: what his story is, but for his story to end 680 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 5: that way on something where he's trying to hustle and 681 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 5: get his team around and score and make this game, 682 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 5: you know, very interesting down the stretch. 683 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 6: It was sucky to see. 684 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: It wasn't It was bad, And I know, like we 685 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: watch bad calls be made all the time, like this 686 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 3: is not a bad call. This is where I sit 687 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 3: there and wonder, I'm sorry, umpire, do you have money 688 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 3: on this game? 689 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 690 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: How do you not think that? After? 691 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 3: And it took you that long to come up with 692 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: that conclusion. Guys again, if you're listening, go watch this play. 693 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: None of you are gonna tweet at me and tell 694 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: us that we are wrong in these feelings. Our producer, 695 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: Shay I sent him the video. Shaye, what did you 696 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 3: think that? 697 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 4: I thought it was garbage? 698 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: Garbage? 699 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 4: It was. 700 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 10: It was. 701 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 12: They literally bring up like a little thing in the 702 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 12: bottom left of the TV that says, oh, yeah, like 703 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 12: if if they get in from the base path and 704 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 12: they don't have the ball, it's it's not at all 705 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 12: an inn like, it's an interference. So I'm like, oh, 706 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 12: this is an interference, easy, Yeah, it's later two seconds 707 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 12: later they go. 708 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: Nah on garbage. 709 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 4: No, not two seconds? Seven minutes, yeah, yeah, seven minutes. 710 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 4: I should have been more. I don't know what they 711 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 4: were looking at, Like what are you looking at? 712 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: The guy is completely blocking. 713 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 4: It took me two seconds to see that. 714 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: To see absolutely, and then he doesn't have the ball. 715 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 3: He does not have the ball. So and everybody's like 716 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: the guy could have slid earlier, he could have avoided. 717 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: He even seems like he wants to brace himself for 718 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: impact and seems like he slows down. 719 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: He's not lunging, there's no shoulder first. 720 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: He's literally straight up with his arms kind of in 721 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 3: front of his chest crossed because he's bracing for impact 722 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: because he sees the guy who's just blocking the base. 723 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: All Right, you guys, I can't upset me so much. 724 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 3: If I would have been if I would have been 725 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: at that game, I would have. 726 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: Been arrested because can you get this lady out of here? 727 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: She's still complaining about the call. Yes, hey, that's how 728 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 3: upset I was. You know, I'm also I'm also upset 729 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 3: because it's the end of an era. 730 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: What's kind of don't go anywhere. We're gonna get into that. 731 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio. 732 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 733 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: It just feels so good. 734 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 10: Me too. 735 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: I love Paramore. What's up? Everybody happy? 736 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 3: Sunday June First, I am Monty Belanos alongside former All 737 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 3: Pro safety Carry Roads. 738 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: I have to mention who who tweeted at us, because 739 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 2: they are completely right. 740 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: We were just talking about that terrible call that happened 741 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 3: on Friday. 742 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: At the n C doua, a baseball. 743 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 3: Championship between Oregon and Utah Valley, where the runner was 744 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: deemed malicious for running into the catcher. They ejected him. 745 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 3: He didn't get to play for Oregon. Oregon loses the game. 746 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 3: They take away the run, and then Adam tweeted at 747 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 3: me and said, and he is right. I'm listening to. 748 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 2: You all over all the way over in New Hampshire 749 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 2: on the radio. 750 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: The worst call ever was Jim Joyce taking away that 751 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 3: perfect game. He'd Gallagara and so what. 752 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, galaraga. It's been a while, guys. When was 753 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: that twenty twenty ten? 754 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 3: That was a while ago. He's right, that was that 755 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 3: was the worst call. I apologize. 756 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 4: Two Tigers fans on this radio station here, thank you, 757 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 4: thank you. We're both in sense still. 758 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this, this gentleman is correct. That is probably 759 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 3: the worst call. But this one was very close second 760 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 3: when it came to this Oregon game in college baseball, 761 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 3: the end of an era, Carrie kind of kind of 762 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 3: NBA on tn T coming down to the end. 763 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: It's over. 764 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 3: Well, at least D and T coverage of it is. 765 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 3: The guys are sticking together as we all know they're 766 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: gonna go onto ESPN and continue to work together, but 767 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to assume that it's not gonna be the same. 768 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 5: It's not going to be the same. If it's Disney ABC, 769 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 5: you can't say certain words. I'm sure some of the 770 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 5: explicit things that they would say in their conversation will 771 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 5: be a little tamed. Yeah, So I just it won't 772 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 5: be the same. I just think that's part of the move. 773 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 5: But yeah, man, what a run, What a run, What 774 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 5: a run they had on TNT. I mean thirty six 775 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 5: years something like that. Thirty six years of like complete 776 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 5: debauchery and also fun and also important things and you know, 777 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 5: Emmys and. 778 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 4: All the things. 779 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 6: It was such a it was it was a great show. 780 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 2: It was a great It was a really great show. 781 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: And I know they're going to continue. 782 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 3: But I agree with you, Carrie, I do think things 783 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 3: are going to be different. 784 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 2: Obviously, it can't be exactly the same. 785 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: In fact, we know, like part of the T and 786 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 3: T crew is Kevin Harlan, who I love, and I 787 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 3: think he's moving on. 788 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: He's not following them. 789 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 3: I think he's going to Amazon, and so really, yeah, 790 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 3: so it's it's not going to be the same. 791 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 2: The guys are sticking together. 792 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 3: And if you paid attention, if you have the volume 793 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 3: on during the game, during when they were saying their goodbyes, 794 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 3: Shaq and Kenny the Jetsmith. 795 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 2: Both dropped an F bomb and did not care. 796 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 6: They tried to get it out there. 797 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 2: It was funny because. 798 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 3: Shock does it and then Kenny the Jutsment's like, like 799 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 3: he said F this. No he didn't say it like that, 800 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 3: but pretty much he's like, we're not effing around where 801 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 3: we're coming. We're not affing around. But you're right, it's 802 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 3: it's Disney. It is Disney. I don't know how shocked 803 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 3: and a fooler going to be able to. 804 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 2: Be when it comes, but I am. It is the 805 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: end of an era. It really is, and it's it's 806 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 2: kind of sad. 807 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 6: It's sad. But also it's not just the guys that 808 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 6: are moving on, it's. 809 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: The whole crew, the entire the entire crew. 810 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 6: Is moving on. 811 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 5: So they will have the foundation of that right, So 812 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 5: I'm sure they're trying to They're gonna massage it and 813 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 5: try to make it work and try to stay as 814 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 5: true to form as possible. But again, just the language 815 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 5: and some of the topics I'm sure will have to 816 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 5: be a little different. 817 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, Charles Barkley, are you gonna still talk 818 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 3: smack on the women in San Antonio? 819 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you, no, wait, wait a minute. 820 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 5: The fact that you went there is amazing. That's why 821 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 5: we're here and that's why we were together. I was 822 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 5: gonna say, what is what are you going to miss most? 823 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 5: What was some of the best moments from the show 824 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 5: that you're going to miss? 825 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 3: I think I mean that every time it's such a 826 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 3: good one. Yes, is are they still gonna race Kenny 827 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,959 Speaker 3: to get to the screen first? 828 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 6: Liability? 829 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 4: Liability the hard time. 830 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 3: It's okay, It's okay, don't worry about it. I think 831 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: that's funny too when they do that. I also love that, 832 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 3: like the little gimmicks, like when they're they're gone fishing 833 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 3: and they're all wearing. 834 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: Hats, like all of those those are all fun. 835 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 3: But it's been thirty six years, like this didn't just 836 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 3: happen overnight. 837 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 2: And like Ernie Johnson said in his who I Love Ernie? 838 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: Who doesn't? Who doesn't love Ernie Johnson? 839 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 7: Right? 840 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 3: And how he the whole crew like it is, it 841 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 3: is going to be a shift. 842 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: It is going to be a change. 843 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 3: But luckily we do get to see the guys stick together, 844 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 3: and I'm sure they're gonna they probably also. 845 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 2: Want it to be slightly different. I would want it 846 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 2: to be slightly different. 847 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 5: I mean, as long as they keep talking about the 848 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 5: big women and cheer roles in San Antonio, then I'm 849 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 5: good and keep. 850 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: That kept classier about it. 851 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 4: And they're going to have to exactly. 852 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to do that. 853 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 3: So it's gonna suck, but hey, something to look forward to, 854 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 3: and I think. 855 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 2: It does have to be It does have to be different. 856 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: It can't be the exact same, but I hope we 857 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 3: see similar things as they continue on covering the NBA 858 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 3: absolutely well. 859 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 2: From the NBA, we go to the NFL, So don't 860 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 2: go anywhere. 861 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: I'm Mancy, He's carry what's up, everybody, Happy Sunday, Happy 862 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 3: June First, to everybody out there listening, I am on 863 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 3: Sievelanyas alongside former All Pro safety Carrie. 864 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: Rhoads hanging out with you. 865 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 3: We've got our full crew here, Martin Weiss on the updates. 866 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 3: Shay is our producer, and now Chris Phffett has left 867 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 3: the ones and TWUESA. 868 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 13: And we have Sam I away, Sam here, what's thank 869 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 13: you for hanging out with us. Please be here, Yes, 870 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 13: thank you and I we are gonna talk about the NFL, 871 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 13: but we've got to quickly mention what happened in this College. 872 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 3: Uh Softball World Series game between UCLA and Tennessee. If 873 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 3: you weren't listening the first hour, you gotta listen, and 874 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 3: don't worry, you can tune into the podcast after. But 875 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 3: we were talking about that terrible call that was made 876 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 3: on the men's. 877 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 2: Side of college. 878 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 3: Baseball on Friday for Oregon and Utah Valley. But right 879 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 3: now on the women's side Ucla Tennessee, clear as day. 880 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 3: You can go find it right now. It's all over 881 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 3: social media and x But ESPN has the clip. A 882 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 3: UCLA runner absolutely does not touch. 883 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: Home play on a home run. 884 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 3: She runs the bases, her team is there waiting for 885 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 3: her at home plate, and she does not touch homeplay. 886 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 4: You know, blame Monty, who do you blame? 887 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 2: I blame the team, the team for standing in the way. 888 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 5: Get out the way, yes the plate first, and then celebrate. 889 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 3: Yes they're so, they're hovering over the plate, but the 890 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 3: plate is open for her. 891 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:24,439 Speaker 4: To touch. 892 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 3: She does not touch it, and so the quote here 893 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 3: is that the runner did misplate, it was assisted. However, 894 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 3: that play is not reviewable, so the run counting, and 895 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 3: that's why they made that decision. 896 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 4: Why is it not review You. 897 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 3: Know, you're asking me things that I don't know, because 898 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 3: Tennessee challenged the play, but ultimately it was upheld with 899 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 3: the run, and they just said that that play is 900 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 3: not technically reviewable, is what they're saying. So it's a 901 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 3: tie game, as you heard Martin, why say between Tennessee 902 00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 3: and UCLA for four? 903 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 2: But that she did not touch homeplate? 904 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 10: You know what? 905 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 5: I realized they make up these things as they like, 906 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 5: how was that one not reviewable? And everything else is revealable? 907 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 5: And he's usually every scoring play is reviewable, so why 908 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 5: is that one not reviewable? I think they really make 909 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 5: up things as they do they go, I really do. 910 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 2: It makes no sense that a scoring plate. 911 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 3: Martin Weiss might have the answer, Sam, can you throw 912 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 3: it on to. 913 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: Martin over there? 914 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 6: Yeah? 915 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 11: So I listened to the umpire's explanation, which is hard 916 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 11: to do when I got a little time. 917 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 918 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 11: So he says that it is like the play was 919 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 11: under review. However, whether or not the foot may contact 920 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 11: a home plate is one of the aspects that's not reviewable. 921 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 11: So like, for example, if you're if you're debating a 922 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 11: catch in the NFL, right, like, you can debate whether 923 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 11: or not the receiver I control of the ball. You 924 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 11: debate whether or not he had two feet on the ground, 925 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 11: but you don't debate who threw it, right, Like, you 926 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 11: know the quarterback threw the ball. Understand that that is 927 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 11: what like if the balls in near anyone can catch it, right, 928 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 11: So that part is like understood. I guess it's understood 929 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 11: that a home run you're gonna put your foot on 930 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 11: the base. And then also he made an allusion to 931 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 11: that it was not clear live that she did not 932 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 11: step on Like if they had seated live, they would 933 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 11: have called it live. 934 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 4: But because they didn't see. 935 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 11: It live and they saw it on review, it therefore 936 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 11: couldn't happen. 937 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 5: Do you think they just didn't want to be the 938 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 5: team that didn't allow a home run to count in 939 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 5: the game go to extra And do you think. 940 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: That's that's what tied the game? 941 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 4: So Tennessee saying it would not have gone. 942 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 2: To Yes, yeah, maybe I mean it's I. 943 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 11: Put it as a fan, I was on the side 944 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 11: of the worst non call in sports history where Tommy 945 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 11: Lee Lewis was tackled by the kill Robey Coleman walking 946 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 11: into the end zone and then was then lost in 947 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 11: overtime to the team that eventually scored three points in 948 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 11: the Super Bowl like almost one of the highest flying 949 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 11: offices NFL history. 950 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,439 Speaker 4: So I'm a fan of making the right call. Yeah, 951 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 4: to make the right call home plate, i'mer. 952 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 2: Did not let go the ball before. I'm with Martin 953 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 2: make the right call. I'm with him. 954 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 3: Uh, yes, No, she did not touch the base though, 955 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 3: And I what did I say to you right before 956 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 3: we started the top of the hour, If I'm u 957 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 3: c l A, I'm fighting at saying like you couldn't 958 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 3: see my whole team was surrounding home plate. 959 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 2: You couldn't see it with your eyes. I would have 960 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 2: argued it that way. But man, the one thing you're 961 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 2: taught the minute you start playing baseball and softball. 962 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,959 Speaker 4: Touch the base, that's that base. 963 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 2: Do not skip the base. And she's she hit the 964 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 2: home run, but she she did not. She did not 965 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 2: hit the bag. 966 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 5: Is that the equivalent of a guy not running all 967 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 5: the way through the end zone and dropping the ball. 968 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:56,919 Speaker 3: Oh goodness, yes, what are you taught? Don't let go 969 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 3: the ball, don't drop the ball until you get to 970 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 3: the the end, don't hit the bases. 971 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 2: It's just stuff that you were taught when you were 972 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 2: a little little baby playing. 973 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 3: Okay, you know, Dak Prescott has been playing football for 974 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 3: a minute, a couple of years now, wouldn't you say, I. 975 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 5: Would say he dropped the ball a couple of times? 976 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 2: Well, well, would you say he's still developing? Carrie? 977 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 6: I hope not. 978 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 2: I hope not. 979 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 3: All right, Well, the Cowboys, you know, in a division 980 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 3: that has seen the most parody the last couple of years, 981 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 3: no repeat division winner, a new head coachy. 982 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 2: But Brian Jaheim, thank you. I was like, we have 983 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 2: it ready, okay. Brian Scheinheimer had. 984 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 3: Some things to say, specifically, let's hear what he said 985 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 3: about his quarterback. 986 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 14: And I think Dak is in the developmental phase. And 987 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 14: that sounds crazy for you guys played that much. But 988 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 14: like there's things that we're tweaking with Dak. 989 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 2: Sounds crazy, sounds crazy. 990 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,879 Speaker 3: He and then he goes on to say a little 991 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 3: bit more, not about Dak, but about the upcoming season 992 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 3: if we have it. 993 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 14: Yeah, I want to be the greatest culture of professional sports. 994 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 14: And that's saying a lot. I get that, But it's 995 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 14: no different than sitting up here and talking about winning 996 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 14: Super Bowls. There's a standard. The standard is we want 997 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 14: to be the best, and will we be the best culture? 998 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 6: I don't know. 999 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 14: We're gonna try, and will we make mistakes along the way. Absolutely, 1000 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 14: we'll make mistakes and then we'll fix things. 1001 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 3: All right, So much to unpack there, but let's start 1002 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 3: with Dak Prescott, who again I think, entering nine ten 1003 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 3: years in the NFL. I get what the coach is 1004 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 3: trying to say. We're tweaking things. I understand that. And 1005 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 3: he's the first time head coach, but he's been with 1006 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 3: the Cowboys for a minute also, right. 1007 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 2: Like, it's not like he's brand new to this team 1008 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 2: or this organization. I think he just chose the wrong words. 1009 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 6: I think is the wrong word. Yes, but go ahead, 1010 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 6: go finis Manthia. 1011 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 3: He chose the wrong words. But at the same time, 1012 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 3: there is something there to it. 1013 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 2: He's not lying, he's also he could have said it 1014 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 2: a little differently. 1015 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know Brian, I know him very well. An 1016 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 5: for a long time. So let's start there. Great coach, 1017 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 5: great guy to be around, a guy that will give 1018 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 5: you the answers to the test and will be you know, 1019 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 5: understanding of the of his players and get and give 1020 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,399 Speaker 5: them a soft landing pad to actually learn and grow 1021 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,439 Speaker 5: and do these certain things. 1022 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 4: Right. 1023 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 6: And so when he says that is still a developmental quarterback, wrong. 1024 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 4: Word choice choice, right, Yeah, but. 1025 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 5: Every player in the NFL should be continuing to develop. 1026 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 5: And I think that's the point he's trying to make. 1027 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 5: Every year, you're adding new tools to the toolbox to 1028 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 5: be better. So if you think you've arrived as a player, 1029 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 5: you're you're probably in the wrong profession because you're not 1030 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 5: going to get any better and you will get toss 1031 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 5: to the side. So I think what he's trying to 1032 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 5: do for fans is give Dak a little grace here. Yep, 1033 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 5: under a new regime, new team, he's still our, but 1034 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 5: I'm going to give him a soft landing pad to 1035 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 5: land on when things don't go well early on. I 1036 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 5: think that's what we're looking at right now. 1037 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 2: I love that. 1038 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 3: So he's trying to protect his quarterback, Yes, he just 1039 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 3: it just came out a little bit funky. 1040 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 6: It did that works? 1041 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,959 Speaker 3: That word was yeah, and it sticks with you also 1042 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 3: because it's Dak Prescott right, his contract, what he's done 1043 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 3: the last couple of years, where it's like you have 1044 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 3: not lived up to the expectation that does come with 1045 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 3: your contract and playing with the Cowboys, like it's unfair, 1046 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 3: but it's true. When you play for certain teams, you 1047 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 3: got to do more than if you were to play 1048 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 3: with other teams. I'm sorry, you know, and so he 1049 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 3: has not delivered, but it did. It stuck in my 1050 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 3: ear when I heard that, and I was like, that's 1051 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 3: I don't think that's what he meant. Yeah, but like 1052 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 3: I agree with you, a brand, we're gonna take a 1053 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 3: new approach here. 1054 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 2: It hasn't been working. 1055 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 3: Let's try and tweak some things and get the best 1056 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 3: out of it. Now, what he said about establishing the 1057 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 3: best culture in sports, it's true. I mean, who doesn't 1058 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 3: want that. That's what you should say, and that's what 1059 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 3: you should want. But the Cowboys in their division again, 1060 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 3: a division that has seen a lot of parody, I 1061 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 3: don't what is a realistic expectation in your opinion for 1062 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 3: the Cowboys because I know the Eagles lost what six 1063 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 3: players on the defensive side. 1064 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 2: Of the ball. 1065 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 6: Okay, another one this week? 1066 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, price off, yes an Adam one. 1067 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 3: Yes, the Commanders you can only imagine they're going to 1068 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 3: be better. You can only imagine that, right, So like 1069 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 3: for me, the Cowboys still third in the division? 1070 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: Is that not a realistic expectation? 1071 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's realistic. I can also see them being second. 1072 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 2: You can also see them being second, but realistically yes, 1073 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 2: but realistically we have to see we do. 1074 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 5: The Commanders are obviously the hot pick for a lot 1075 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 5: of teams, right, A lot of people to think they're 1076 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 5: going to take that leap. It doesn't happen that way 1077 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 5: all the time. So I'm a little I'm pumping the 1078 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 5: brakes on them just a little bit until I see sure. 1079 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 2: Sure they expect one, yes. 1080 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 5: But they had a lot of games that could have 1081 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 5: turned that season from a playoff season to not making 1082 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 5: the playoffs really quickly. So, and that's a fine line, 1083 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 5: very fine line. So I want to see but yes, 1084 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 5: realistically I could see third. 1085 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 3: Yet third, right because the Eagles have been in this 1086 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 3: situation where they went to a super Bowl and then 1087 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 3: did nothing the next year. Yeah, And so I feel 1088 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 3: like expecting them to repeat that might not that they're 1089 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 3: gonna be as good, but they've been through that of 1090 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 3: being at the high and then starting the next year 1091 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 3: and being back at the low, going back to the high. 1092 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 3: So I just I don't think the Eagles fall off 1093 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 3: that much. And then the Commanders, Yeah, like it's hard 1094 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 3: to imagine that they won't play the same, if not better, Right, 1095 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 3: and in their second year they overachieved in their first year, 1096 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 3: so you can only assume they're gonna get a smidge better. 1097 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,720 Speaker 3: But even if the Cowboys do get better, I still 1098 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 3: realistically see three. 1099 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 5: And the crazy part about saying realistically being three, we 1100 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 5: saw the NFC North get three teams in the play. 1101 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 4: Off, So what does that look like? 1102 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 5: We don't know what that ceiling is yet, and we 1103 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 5: don't know where this thing can you know, can materialize. 1104 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 6: That the season goes on. 1105 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean there's ano that's a scenario where 1106 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 5: I can see them being second in that division and 1107 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 5: making the playoff. 1108 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 4: Still, I like Brian, so we'll see. 1109 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 3: All Right, we don't have a lot of time, but 1110 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 3: I have to ask you here real quick. Yeah, what's 1111 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,879 Speaker 3: up with NFL players and boats? And like not making 1112 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 3: the best decisions. 1113 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 5: I think they watched Step Brothers. Did you You know 1114 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 5: the thing about step Brothers. 1115 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 6: And the boats? 1116 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 8: What is it? 1117 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 4: Boats and girls and girl? 1118 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 5: But they use it a different a different term, right, 1119 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,839 Speaker 5: So you know, I think that's just I think they 1120 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 5: are big fans of Stepbrothers, that's all. 1121 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 4: I don't think that's. 1122 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 2: That's too much. Listen, all right, Stephan Diggs. 1123 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys have all seen the video that's 1124 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 3: circulating all of our social media on a boat with 1125 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 3: his lady Cardi b is there, but a bunch of 1126 00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 3: other ladies are also there, and then this pink substance. Yeah, 1127 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,439 Speaker 3: I mean listen, our drug insider, Iowa Sam is actually here. 1128 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 2: Drug insider. 1129 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 4: Oh you didn't know that, that's true? 1130 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 15: Official f SR FAM what narcotics informants and insider? 1131 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 4: What was the pink substance? 1132 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 8: Then? 1133 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:16,879 Speaker 6: What was that? 1134 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 15: So it's not it's like a cocktail of drugs. It's 1135 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 15: M D M A, it's ketamine. There can be opioids 1136 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:29,240 Speaker 15: in there, Martin, our other distinguished f SR narcotics informant. 1137 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 11: So fast, because honestly, I just thought that there could 1138 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 11: have been an underreported angle to this what if it 1139 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 11: was a gender reveal. 1140 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 2: Ah, that's very man. 1141 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 4: Did you cocktails? 1142 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 2: Have you worked? 1143 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, where else do you? Where else are 1144 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 4: you using pink stuff like that? 1145 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 10: Like on on video? 1146 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 4: All the problem was you should have thrown it up 1147 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 4: in the air. You got to throw it up. 1148 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta make it official. 1149 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, like Lebron checking into the game. 1150 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 2: So I think usually into a pr career, because that 1151 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 2: was impressive. 1152 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 3: That that's where we turn this into a reveal on 1153 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 3: the boat because we're on a boat. Okay, so we 1154 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,879 Speaker 3: love love we do here. I think I think Mike 1155 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 3: Rabel has a big decision to make ahead of this. 1156 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 6: It's just not the Patriot way. 1157 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 2: It's just not the would Bill Belichick already have cut him? 1158 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm not joking either. No, he would be done. 1159 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick would have been done done. Well, you know what, 1160 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 3: maybe we can ask our NFL insider Adam Kaplan what 1161 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 3: he thinks the Patriots do moving forward. When it comes 1162 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 3: to Stefan Diggs, don't go anywhere. I'm Mancey, He's Carrie, 1163 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 3: and you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 1164 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Sunday. 1165 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 3: I am Manci Belanya's alongside former All Pro safety Carry 1166 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 3: Roads and you know you can stream the show and 1167 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 3: all of our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four 1168 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 3: to seven and the new and improved iHeart Radio app. 1169 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 3: Just search Fox Sports Radio in the app to stream 1170 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 3: us live. And one of the newest features in the 1171 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 3: app is that you can select Fox Sports Radio as 1172 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 3: your preset, just like presets on your radio dial. 1173 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 2: So be sure to preset Fox Sports. 1174 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 3: Radio in the iHeartRadio app and it will always pop 1175 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 3: up at the top of your screen. 1176 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 4: That's right, pre said it, pre said it. 1177 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, we're presetting Stefan Diggs here to start our 1178 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 3: conversation with our NFL insider, Adam Kaplan. 1179 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,760 Speaker 2: Adam, how's it going, cap. 1180 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 10: Man, guys, Good to talk to you. 1181 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always some sort of even this time of year, 1182 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, guys, sometimes you're away from the team having 1183 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: fun but could be embarrassed himself. So yeah, I know, 1184 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: I know what you're what you're alluding to. So that's 1185 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: that story's an issue. The Stephan Diggs patriot situation will 1186 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: get into that obviously. You know, it's ota season and 1187 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: I kind of laugh when people are like, oh, everyone's 1188 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: doing well, well, yeah, I mean they do it. You 1189 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,760 Speaker 1: can't touch anybody, you knows exactly. 1190 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 2: Everybody better look perfect out there. 1191 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 10: Yeah they should. 1192 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 1: Honestly, I've probably been over a thousand of them since 1193 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. So yeah, and Carrie could tell you 1194 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: it's a learning phase, So that that's what folks should know. 1195 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 1: It's very coaches will tell you it's so important for 1196 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: the learning phase for a player. But don't worry. The 1197 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: real competition is in July and August. 1198 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 2: Have you been to ot S right now already? 1199 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: No, I'll probably go to Eagles, and I usually go 1200 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,240 Speaker 1: to Ravens or Giants. Yes, but yeah, I I you know, 1201 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: my job is to talk to teams to kind of 1202 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 1: find out where players are and how they're doing, and 1203 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: and then then of course I make my training camp 1204 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 1: tour out and that that's solely based on where I 1205 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 1: have questions. So Cleveland, you know, with their quarterback situation, 1206 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: I'll drive the air. 1207 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 10: You know that. 1208 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: That's because I like to switch it around. I want 1209 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: to know and then when I want to see rookies 1210 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: and find out what's going on there. 1211 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,320 Speaker 10: So that's kind of how I do. 1212 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 5: Adam, I need you to get to that giant one 1213 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 5: because you know I'm I'll be there. You know, I'm 1214 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 5: a Jackson dark guy. I want you to. I want 1215 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:42,320 Speaker 5: you to. 1216 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, right right, Yeah, that's right for the draft. Yes, 1217 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: that one's gonna be fun because it here's the thing, 1218 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: since you brought that one up, right, So you've got 1219 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 1: a coaching staff that knows that their jobs on the line, 1220 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: that they know what's going on, right, ye, Well, then 1221 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 1: you have a general man in right who Joe Shane, 1222 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, who has personnel control. Though John Mara, the 1223 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 1: president of the team, gets heavily involved, but he he 1224 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: has okay, and if whatever Joe wants. But the bottom 1225 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: line is they've made a decision to tread order with 1226 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Eventually that bubble's going to burst. And then 1227 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 1: from a coaching standpoint, because they're trying to win games 1228 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 1: and they don't know what it will take to keep 1229 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 1: their jobs, it's gonna be a push and pull there. 1230 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what happens with Russell Wilson if 1231 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,400 Speaker 1: he could, if they could have a winning record by 1232 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 1: like say, week ten, to stave off the change of quarterback. 1233 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 3: Adam Right before we started talking to you. We did 1234 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 3: dive a little bit into that NFC East, you know 1235 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 3: division with lots of parody, no repeat division winner. 1236 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 2: What aren't real it's been a while. 1237 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 3: What are realistic expectations for the Cowboys? Carrie and I 1238 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 3: both said, still third in the nfcas yep. 1239 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 1: Well, the odds makers, you know for Sports Squad, one 1240 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,479 Speaker 1: of the companies that were for We just actually talked 1241 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,919 Speaker 1: about that last week in that every sports book has 1242 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys in third, the Commanders in second, Eagles in first. 1243 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: I haven't found I looked at like ten of them. 1244 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,760 Speaker 1: None of them have the Cowboys finishing second. 1245 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 10: It is what it is. Look, they're getting. 1246 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: Healthy Dak Prescott back, who tour's hamstring off the bone, 1247 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: which you know it's unbelievably painful. So he's back. They 1248 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: made the George Pickens trade. That had to happen. They 1249 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: had to do something significate receiver. They did that. But 1250 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you're you know, I don't know exactly 1251 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: how oddsmakers do this. Obviously, they look at the schedule, 1252 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: they see who they're going to play. 1253 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 10: They have a new. 1254 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: Koche staff, Brad Shottenheimer and his staff, so they're bringing 1255 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 1: new schemes in offensive defense. But they've got issues. They've 1256 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: got a lot of them are on defense. Now running 1257 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: back would be the concern there. They don't have a 1258 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 1: bonifide starter. Jayden Blue, the kid from the University of Texas, 1259 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: so I absolutely love who eventually could be a big factor, 1260 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 1: very explosive. But the problem is they have is at cornerback. 1261 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 1: The cornerback position is it is not good. Trayvon Diggs 1262 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: is not expected to be ready week one. He's had 1263 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: complications with the ACL injury and getting it right. 1264 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 10: He had a follow up. 1265 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: So they have problems at corner They're not great at 1266 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: linebacker at all. That's a problem. They don't stop the 1267 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: run real well, so they've got problems, folks. That's so 1268 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: if you want to know why the Cowboys should not 1269 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: be a playoff team, I honestly if Dak Prescott played. 1270 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 10: Fifty or sixteen games, and based on what. 1271 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: I know about Brian Schottenhammer, he's super aggressive throwing the football. 1272 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 1: He's not like his dad. He wanted to run the ball, 1273 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 1: not with the quarterback throw. That's not the way Shotty thinks. 1274 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: The let Russ Cook came from Brian shott Humber by 1275 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: the way, that was totally Brian Shott Hummer. 1276 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 10: Trust me on that one. 1277 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 5: That's so funny because Adam, you know, I've known Brian 1278 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 5: since he was yeah, since he was so young, and 1279 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 5: so to actually see him get this this, I you 1280 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 5: know what I I think when he talks about culture 1281 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 5: and and and really getting guys to play on a 1282 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 5: different level and play on the level of like trusting 1283 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 5: the guy that's running the show, he'll do that. He'll 1284 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 5: get them to buy in. Now do they have enough 1285 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 5: talent to make it happen? I don't know. We'll see, 1286 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 5: but I want to talk about that. I want to 1287 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 5: stay with him for one more second though, because I 1288 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 5: dak Okay, there was this these comments where Brian came 1289 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 5: out and said he's still a developmental quarterback. 1290 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 6: What do you think about those? 1291 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: Okay, let me explain. What he meant is that every 1292 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: players you know is developing, right, and there's some things 1293 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 1: that shot he's going to want to do with him. 1294 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 10: I can tell you when he was brought in. 1295 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 1: I actually I don't know the guy, but I talked 1296 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 1: to him when he was with Seattle and he basically admitted, 1297 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 1: he basically confirmed what I was told that he was 1298 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 1: brought in to coach Russell Wilson hard like get on him, 1299 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 1: get rid of the football quickly, stop moving around, just 1300 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: execute the play like we want. Well, Dak Prescott's a 1301 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: certain type of quarterback. He wants to get him to 1302 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 1: the next level. He Dak at times just looked like 1303 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: an MVP candidate. But you know, I know about the 1304 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 1: injury history, which is significant. He wants to get him 1305 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: back to where he was, and that's kind of I 1306 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: understood what he thought. Now if you just didn't understand, 1307 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 1: if you just read the quoesure, what is he? 1308 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 10: What are you talking about? 1309 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still developing. Well, yeah, you're always developing. That 1310 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 1: got totally overblown. And to me it was a non story. 1311 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: But we're in May. 1312 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 10: We weren't May. 1313 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: We're now in June. 1314 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:14,919 Speaker 10: First. 1315 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: But actually the bigger problem, folks is, and I know 1316 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 1: the first hand because I saw at the Suner Bowl. 1317 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 1: If that gets hurt again, Joe Milton, I mean, he 1318 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: could probably throw out of the stadium. 1319 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 10: I think we throw it one hundred yards, yes, But. 1320 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Folks, a can hits the broadside of a bar and 1321 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 1: his accuracy is terrible. I mean Neweland draft them last year. 1322 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 1: They aready traded them. They didn't want him. This staff 1323 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: was with them, Elliot Wolf, who's their active He's basically 1324 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: the general Mandri is the personnel title. He drafted them 1325 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: last year and I traded him after one year, So 1326 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: that tells you a lot. 1327 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 10: He's the backup. Right now, you're. 1328 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 3: Listening to Fox Sports Radio on Moncey Belanya's alongside it 1329 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 3: Carrie Rhoades and we're talking to our NFL insider Adam Kaplan. 1330 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 8: Uh. 1331 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 3: Before we move on from this division, the Eagles, who 1332 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 3: you cover very closely, have lost a lot of defensive 1333 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 3: players and now Bryce now head to the forty nine ers. 1334 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 2: How did you feel about that? 1335 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 8: So? 1336 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,439 Speaker 1: I thought for Philly they did what they could. Unfortunately, 1337 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 1: they're into him for over twenty six million for one season. 1338 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 1: They you, we're talking about the base salary, signing bonus, 1339 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 1: and the partial. 1340 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 10: Salary which they have to pay. So it's obviously it's 1341 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 10: a bad mess. 1342 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: But with this trade once becomes official, Huffscotta pass uh 1343 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 1: Niners physical, it's highly expected that he will. He had 1344 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 1: risk surgery last season. In season he came back, but 1345 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 1: he was a noun of fact, he was actually benched 1346 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: for Jaylex Shun, who was a third round pick out 1347 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 1: of a small school in Texas. So the bottom line 1348 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,000 Speaker 1: is it didn't work. It was never going to work. 1349 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 1: He was playing. He played in a scheme that didn't 1350 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: fit in the Vic Fangio scheme where the edgereacher stand up, 1351 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: they got a drop in coverage. He was never comfortable. Ironically, 1352 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 1: he made his money seventeen million a year as an 1353 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 1: indgruct with his hand in the dirt. By the way, 1354 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 1: they're running the same scheme with the Niners that he 1355 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 1: that he played in with the Jets under Robert Sala 1356 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: and there defensive line coach Chris qu Serakho is one 1357 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 1: of the best of the National Footb League. So the Niners, 1358 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 1: as I understand it, they didn't get enough edg rusher help. 1359 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 10: They did draft Mike. 1360 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 1: Col Williams in the first but they need more players, 1361 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 1: so most likely Huff will be their third edge rusher. 1362 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: He could start over Williams and to Williams is ready. 1363 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: But this is a no brainer and obviously Solid knows 1364 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: him because he coached them, so it's a no brainder 1365 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 1: for both teams. 1366 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 10: I totally get it. 1367 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: In Eagles now they're the youngest defense of the National 1368 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Football League, which is kind of odd because they've always 1369 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 1: been one of the oldest. But Fletcher Cox's retirement, Brandon 1370 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 1: Graham's retirement, Darres Slaver was released, he signed with Pittsburgh. 1371 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 1: So they're super young folks. If you look at their defense, 1372 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: Zach Bond, who came out of nowhere last year, is 1373 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 1: the oldest player on defense right now for them. 1374 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 4: Oh wow. 1375 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 10: All right. 1376 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 3: From one east to the other East, the AFC East, 1377 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 3: the Dolphins. So many questions surrounding certain players. Now I 1378 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 3: hear Tyreek Hill might be on the trading block. 1379 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 4: John U. 1380 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 3: Smith wants an extension, wants a different contract. He's traded 1381 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey. I mean, what is what are the Dolphins do? 1382 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on Monty so here, Yeah, exactly, 1383 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: So let's start with the latter. 1384 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 10: This one's easy. 1385 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: So they they made a decision in well, first of all, 1386 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: the bad decision. 1387 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 10: And it's a really bad move. 1388 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 1: They extended Ramsey's contract last year at the start of 1389 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 1: the last season, they guaranteed. 1390 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 10: Over twenty nine million. That was a mistake. 1391 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 1: Now they want to trade him. They're done with him. 1392 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 1: They They've told him and his agent they're going to 1393 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: do this. He's not going to take a penny less. 1394 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 1: But what has to happen Why there's a hold up. 1395 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 1: The Rams really want to get him back, but they 1396 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,840 Speaker 1: have not agreed on how much they'll take of his 1397 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 1: cash this season, which is over twenty five million, and 1398 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: that is a tough pill to swallow. He turns thirty 1399 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 1: one in October. There are you know, there's debatable of 1400 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 1: how much he's got left in the tank. Now he 1401 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: is signed. Now, he's signed long term because they extend 1402 01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 1: his country. He signed through twenty twenty eight, which will 1403 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 1: setally take him easily to the end of his career. 1404 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 1: If not, I don't see him playing four more years. 1405 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is they have not been able 1406 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 1: to find a team that'll that'll take a chunk of 1407 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: the money. 1408 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 10: That's the hold up. 1409 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,840 Speaker 1: So what they're going to do is he's probably going 1410 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 1: to be away from the team if it comes to August. 1411 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 1: They'll wait as long as they can. Okay, now, Tyreek kill. 1412 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 10: The problem is, look, first. 1413 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 1: Of all, he you know, I don't know why no 1414 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 1: one's talking about this, but it happened. He played with 1415 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 1: a bad rist Okay more power to him. 1416 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 10: He played through it. 1417 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 1: He had risk surgery in the off season, but his 1418 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 1: risk was not he had trouble catching the football. It 1419 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 1: was it just didn't play well last season, but it 1420 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 1: was because of his risk he couldn't catch it properly. 1421 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 1: The problem this year, folks, is he's making over twenty 1422 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 1: million dollars twenty eight million dollars. Twenty eight million dollars 1423 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 1: for a thirty one year old receiver. I'm sorry. It's 1424 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: just untradable. And next year the total cash is thirty 1425 01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: six million, folks. That's quarterback buddy. No one's taking not 1426 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: I would say never, say never, but that's not happening. 1427 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 1: And who was the other player asked about? 1428 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 3: John new Smith, who apparently just wants he had a 1429 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 3: good year for the time he did. 1430 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 1: He definitely rebuilt his career MANCI. So he's on the 1431 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 1: final years deal. He's making a four point. 1432 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 10: One million. 1433 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 1: It's a he's kind of in a tough way because 1434 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 1: he turns thirty in August. His career, boy, he saw 1435 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 1: him a huge free agenty with New England. He never 1436 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 1: played well. He's some stuff going on. I don't know 1437 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: what it was. But he just was not himself and 1438 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: then he revived his career with Atlanta. He did a 1439 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 1: good job last year. He definitely did like he really 1440 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 1: showed he's back. By the way, he's a two way 1441 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 1: today and he can catch him on block. Yeah, and 1442 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: he should probably be getting like nine or ten million 1443 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 1: a year. So Drew's Drew Rosenhalez's agent is trying to 1444 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:48,880 Speaker 1: get this worked out. Drew's got a great relationship with 1445 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, so one way or the other. And this 1446 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 1: stuff about Pittsburgh, I know if I'm talking to Steelers 1447 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 1: like it's I'm guessing that Dolphins were calling around and 1448 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 1: see what kind of value he had out there. But 1449 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 1: Pratt Freymouth had an extension last year. 1450 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:04,120 Speaker 10: He's a starter. 1451 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 1: Ye jected Darnold Washington. 1452 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 10: Two years ago. 1453 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: Who's there their they're why tight end. He's their inline 1454 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 1: tight end. Who's a giant dude out of Georgia. And 1455 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 1: they don't really have a third ten end, so they 1456 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 1: could use another guy, but they're not going to pay 1457 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,080 Speaker 1: anything for another tight end. 1458 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 10: That makes no sense. 1459 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 5: Adam, all Right, we're talking about the tail end of 1460 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh era in that time, and we got a 1461 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 5: player that's came, you know, went over the water a 1462 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 5: little bit and went to the New York Jets, and 1463 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 5: I think it's going to have a career year this 1464 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 5: year in Justin Fields, Let's talk about him a little bit. 1465 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 5: I know everybody looks good in shorts in OTAs, but 1466 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,000 Speaker 5: he's looked amazing in the videos, So let's talk about 1467 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 5: him a little bit. 1468 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 6: Adam, what's you think is going to happen there? 1469 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 1: Well, the cool thing he's back with Garrett Wilson is 1470 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 1: one former teammate from Ohio State, and I think that's 1471 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 1: actually good for Garrett. Wilson was not really happy with 1472 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 1: the Jets last season. I'm told so Allen was artists 1473 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 1: back on a pay cut. They still need help a receiver. 1474 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that they're done there. They're they're they're looking, 1475 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 1: as I understand it, they're they're kind of rebuilding their 1476 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:03,360 Speaker 1: offensive line. 1477 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 6: What are you looking at a lave as well? 1478 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:06,040 Speaker 4: Adham? 1479 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 1: Well, that that's that's that's just what I think. What 1480 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 1: that is he's coming back from major injury. What that 1481 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 1: is there is they've been looking for months, like they 1482 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 1: they brought in Josh Reynolds, who's sort of a journeyman. 1483 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 10: He's a backup. 1484 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 1: Uh mal Kai Corley was not ready last year their 1485 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,440 Speaker 1: third round pick at all from talking to the Jets. 1486 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 10: And just felt he wasn't ready. 1487 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Lazard bottomed nowt he got pressed in a service. He 1488 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 1: did well late in the season, so they know they 1489 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,320 Speaker 1: need one more receive. They're not looking to spend a 1490 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: lot of money and they want to extend Garrett Wilson's contract. 1491 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 1: So no, I don't I don't see Chris a Lovey 1492 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 1: coming there now, So so what are they doing over 1493 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 1: Justin Fields? They've rebuilt their offensive line. Vera Tucker was 1494 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 1: the first rounder. Joe Douglas, the former GM who was 1495 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,960 Speaker 1: rehired by the Eagles. He he drafted. Vera Tucker members 1496 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 1: going to play right tackle for Shana play left tackle. 1497 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,680 Speaker 1: Tipman was the second rounder for three years ago as 1498 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,720 Speaker 1: their center John Simpson are probably a little left guard. 1499 01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 1: So they should have a good old line with Justin Fields. Now, 1500 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 1: it's not a protection issue, which you have in Chicago. 1501 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 1: It's County play consistent football. 1502 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 10: He's so up and down. 1503 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Now they have a run game, which is going to 1504 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 1: help him with With Bresol, you don't have to worry 1505 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 1: about that. He's got to fund accuracy. He's got a 1506 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 1: process better talking to people. 1507 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:17,880 Speaker 10: I've worked with him before. 1508 01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 1: There's got to be a better commitment to be a 1509 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 1: great football player. He just can't rely on this great ability. 1510 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 1: And what I'm told from the people on the inside 1511 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 1: with the Bears was was never fully committed to being great. 1512 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 1: It's he he's a good kid, but he didn't. 1513 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 10: That's why. 1514 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:34,680 Speaker 1: By the way, you know, there were stories coming out 1515 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 1: of Ohio State. A lot of stuff is true. 1516 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I'm just being honest with you. I 1517 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 10: know he's only twenty six. 1518 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 1: You know, he's been humbled now, he's a first round 1519 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: who didn't work out with you know, he's now on 1520 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,519 Speaker 1: his third team here, so he's got a two he's 1521 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,720 Speaker 1: got a two year structure on his contract, so he's 1522 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 1: pretty much They don't have anyone else who's going to 1523 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 1: challenge him. He's got enormous ability. They should be able 1524 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 1: to protect him. They're going to have a run game now. 1525 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 1: He does have a first time play caller and Tanner 1526 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: Angstrat who comes over from the Lions. I know they're 1527 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 1: very high on the Jets, so we'll see. And Aaron Glenn. 1528 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of his. Really sharp guy. It's 1529 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 1: just I mean, honestly, it's a lot of it's on 1530 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 1: fields here, Yeah, it is. It's got so much ability though, Guys, 1531 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 1: when it's good you go wow. When it's bad you 1532 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,600 Speaker 1: want to bench him. That's yeah, unfortunate part about it. 1533 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, last one, Stephan Diggs, is he going 1534 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:25,879 Speaker 3: to be a patriot? 1535 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 1: Well, you got to watch this stuff first of all. 1536 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 1: And Carrie could relate to this. Kerry could actually talk. 1537 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 2: About being on a boat with women. 1538 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 1: I know contract, the language and the contract, so carry 1539 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:36,599 Speaker 1: correct me from wrong. 1540 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 10: I don't. 1541 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 1: I used to. I had an actual NFL contract years ago, 1542 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 1: but I can't find it. It's on an old computer. 1543 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:48,760 Speaker 1: But there's contract. There's conduct detrimental which could avoid guarantees. 1544 01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 1: Do you remember offhand any like you ballpark id what 1545 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 1: the language looks like. 1546 01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,679 Speaker 5: No, not really, but I do know, like you just said, 1547 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:05,519 Speaker 5: when you talk about conduct detrimental, it's very specific verbits 1548 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 5: for certain players as well, So it's not like a 1549 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 5: there is a standard one. But if they know that 1550 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,640 Speaker 5: you like to do Harley's or like whatever. 1551 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:18,519 Speaker 1: Jump out of airplanes, Yes, that's actually that's the contract 1552 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 1: that I had that that's what I said the language. 1553 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 1: But yes, so that to me, this one's tough because 1554 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: I know there were coaches on the roster that vouch 1555 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,680 Speaker 1: for him, that coach with him wherever he was over 1556 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 1: his career. He's super competitive. I know he's moody. I 1557 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 1: know a lot about him privately based on people work 1558 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 1: with him. But he's a baller, he loves football. He's 1559 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 1: competitive as hell. This is just the video is not good. 1560 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 1: Obviously they're working through it as I understand it. I'm 1561 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,599 Speaker 1: not rolling anything out here, but they're a nightmare receiver 1562 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 1: wis of without him. Now, they love this kid, Kyle Williams, 1563 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 1: who's a third rounder. In fact, he might actually start. 1564 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,600 Speaker 1: He's roundt have watched the state who they love. This 1565 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 1: is a guy that they identified early in the process. 1566 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 1: But they just don't have a lot. This would not 1567 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 1: be good because man, Drake may Cou's ball he's a baller, 1568 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 1: he's a gun slunger. Yep, they need him. And now 1569 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,120 Speaker 1: Dix is coming back with toWin ACL. He's he's going 1570 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 1: to be ready for the season. Now he's going to 1571 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,800 Speaker 1: be limited in training camp. As to understand it. This 1572 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 1: is just yeah, it's a shame, man. I'm disappointed about that. V. 1573 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,439 Speaker 1: I don't know that. Again, I've never met him, but 1574 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,719 Speaker 1: I just know that they think Drake May was ahead 1575 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 1: of schedule. This new staff that came in here, they 1576 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 1: thought May was ahead of better than they anticipated because 1577 01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 1: they saw him by the Way's college tape. He didn't 1578 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,040 Speaker 1: play like this, like he was not under control, accuracy 1579 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,600 Speaker 1: all over the place, didn't always run the play like 1580 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 1: they should, and they did a good job last season. 1581 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm interested to the way this this. 1582 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 10: Thing works out. I see. 1583 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, guys, I don't know how you rectify 1584 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 1: this once the video gets out there exactly. I don't 1585 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,559 Speaker 1: know what you can do to make it right. I 1586 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,160 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, public apology, I don't know. This 1587 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 1: is this is this is a great cause, this is 1588 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 1: a great subject. This is a very unique situation, one 1589 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:07,720 Speaker 1: that not many we've seen like this before. 1590 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 4: Obviously. 1591 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, the public apology makes no sense. Yeah, I mean, 1592 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 5: it's people that's going to do No, it does nothing. 1593 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,640 Speaker 5: I mean, and people do what they do on their 1594 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 5: own time, but they got to start video and stuff. 1595 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:17,639 Speaker 6: That's the problem. 1596 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:18,599 Speaker 2: That's what it is. 1597 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,360 Speaker 1: Well, well, I understand that I'm not again, I'm not 1598 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,680 Speaker 1: defending day this powder stuff. I don't know what that was. 1599 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna even Yeah, I'm not expect it, but 1600 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: I'll say this. Look, players have fun when they're way 1601 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,920 Speaker 1: from clubs. Carry knows. I'm not saying Carry did any 1602 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:40,080 Speaker 1: of this stuff, Kerry knows. So guys at the party, yes, okay, yeah, yeah, 1603 01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 1: And and you know, you gotta be careful man, you 1604 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:48,920 Speaker 1: just if anything, I hope the the the young kids 1605 01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,040 Speaker 1: who see this, the young players, rookies in the NFL, 1606 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 1: be very careful when you're out and about that stuff. 1607 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 1: Keep you videoed and be smart about it. That that's 1608 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 1: that's what I think. Learning sprints from the situation. 1609 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:01,519 Speaker 8: Hey. 1610 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 1: Then, by the way, not that they're different, but you 1611 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,000 Speaker 1: also what happened with Larmy Tunsel and how he overcame that, 1612 01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean, people, if there's no way and he became 1613 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,160 Speaker 1: one of the best left tackles of the league. 1614 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 10: And that was the one in you know with the 1615 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,719 Speaker 10: video with smoking the bong. You know, yeah, yeah, so hey, 1616 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:16,599 Speaker 10: it is what it is. 1617 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 2: Adam, we kept you extra long. 1618 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Appreciate it. We'll talk to you 1619 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 3: next week. 1620 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 4: That's good. 1621 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 3: You can follow our NFL insider on ex Twitter at 1622 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 3: Kaplan NFL. 1623 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 2: Now, let's head to the. 1624 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,879 Speaker 3: News desk with Martin Weiss, who's been waiting so patiently 1625 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 3: as he also likes to party on the boats, right. 1626 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,559 Speaker 4: Martin, Martin parties on boats? 1627 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:39,960 Speaker 1: Sure? 1628 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,880 Speaker 4: Sure, I haven't been on a boat in quite some time. 1629 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,719 Speaker 2: Oh me, neither. It's been a while. 1630 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 15: You live next to the ocean, Martin. That doesn't mean 1631 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 15: within fifty miles of the ocean. 1632 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 11: It'd be a lot easier, Sam, if I lived on 1633 01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,000 Speaker 11: the other side of a river or something, and then 1634 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 11: I'd probably be on more boats. Was simply because the 1635 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 11: ocean is there doesn't mean I'm just going to. 1636 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,040 Speaker 4: Just go what I was supposed to go, just a 1637 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,280 Speaker 4: regular basis. What are we doing? 1638 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 10: Kin? 1639 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 4: I guess? So sorry, I'm busted into this update here 1640 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 4: curiate man style. 1641 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:17,560 Speaker 11: Yeah, did we need it to Laura Mieler from Tennessee 1642 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,680 Speaker 11: walks Off and the Women's College World series Eliminade. She 1643 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 11: gave U c l a coming back home. Maybe they'll 1644 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 11: take a boat, according to Sam Me on the way 1645 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 11: from where they are to California, but five to four. 1646 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,760 Speaker 11: The final score of Laurier Miler with a walk off 1647 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:39,120 Speaker 11: single after the bases loaded for the Lady Volunteers. This 1648 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:43,200 Speaker 11: coming after UCLA hit a home run. Didn't step on 1649 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 11: home play, but it didn't matter if the home run 1650 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 11: counted anyway. 1651 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:47,680 Speaker 4: It's been a. 1652 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 11: Wild all right. Now, let's go to baseball. Got one 1653 01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,720 Speaker 11: game live right now. The Pirates with a four to 1654 01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,600 Speaker 11: one lead over the Padres. We just saw the Diamondbacks 1655 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 11: wrap up the Nationals three to one. Mayor, and there's 1656 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 11: two to one over the Twins. Kyle Rawley with a 1657 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,720 Speaker 11: home run. Clubs three to seven over the Reds. Astros 1658 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,920 Speaker 11: blank the Rays one to nothing. Same story with the 1659 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,360 Speaker 11: Tigers and the Royals. 1660 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:13,719 Speaker 4: One to nothing. 1661 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,160 Speaker 11: Giants four to two over the Marlins. The Mets hit 1662 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 11: three home runs on the way to beating the Rockies 1663 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,240 Speaker 11: five to three. Rockies have lost fifty games, twenty eight 1664 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:24,680 Speaker 11: on the road. 1665 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 4: They won't let's say like this, they've won three games 1666 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:27,400 Speaker 4: on the road. 1667 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,360 Speaker 2: Sh that's not It's June. 1668 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,800 Speaker 11: The Guardians before beat the Angels forty two. Blue Jay's 1669 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,439 Speaker 11: double up the A's eight to four. Brewers get their 1670 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 11: seventh straight win. In a row five to two over 1671 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:41,480 Speaker 11: the Phillies. 1672 01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Thank you so much. 1673 01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 8: Martin. 1674 01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,559 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Sunday. 1675 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 3: How does Carrie feel about new fathers dozing off on 1676 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 3: the clock. We're gonna find out next here on. 1677 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:54,000 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. 1678 01:15:54,920 --> 01:16:00,000 Speaker 3: I going Stefani back in the day, no doubt, no doubt. 1679 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,400 Speaker 2: Yes, on Sunday. What's up everybody? 1680 01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio Monte Bilanos alongside former All Pro safety 1681 01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:13,559 Speaker 3: Carry Roads. Let's get into it. Who All right, everybody, 1682 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 3: if you've never listened to this segment, carry on her off. 1683 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell. 1684 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 2: Carrie some things, and he's just gonna tell us whether 1685 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 2: he's on board with it or not. 1686 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:26,519 Speaker 3: Really easy, all right, Carrie, how are you on or off? 1687 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:32,479 Speaker 3: New fathers falling asleep on the clock, taking a little siesta, 1688 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,080 Speaker 3: maybe dozing off a. 1689 01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 2: New father you're tired? How do you feel about that? 1690 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:36,719 Speaker 2: Carry on her Off? 1691 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm on that. 1692 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:40,200 Speaker 4: I'm on that. 1693 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 2: You're on that, I'm on here, You're okay? 1694 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 10: Yeah? 1695 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, long sleepless nights can occur when 1696 01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,200 Speaker 5: you have a newborn and you know there's not enough 1697 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 5: rests to go around you gotta You gotta help the wife. 1698 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:53,599 Speaker 6: You gotta help the missus. 1699 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,640 Speaker 5: You gotta assist, you gotta take the garbage out, you 1700 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,000 Speaker 5: gotta clean, you gotta cook, You gotta do all these 1701 01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 5: things at home as a new father, And so when 1702 01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,760 Speaker 5: you get out into the world, doesn't matter if you 1703 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:02,799 Speaker 5: had your. 1704 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:03,519 Speaker 4: Place of work. 1705 01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 5: If you need a quick little snooze, a little nap, 1706 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,280 Speaker 5: take a little nap, I'm down. 1707 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:08,559 Speaker 2: That's what I think. 1708 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:13,080 Speaker 3: Tani took a nap yesterday against your Yankees, not because 1709 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 3: the game was boring in eighteen to two, but because 1710 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 3: he was a new time father and he just got 1711 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:17,960 Speaker 3: a little tired. 1712 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,960 Speaker 5: That's what I like that observation better. Yeah, he was 1713 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 5: was He wasn't bored because they would beat the Yankee 1714 01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:23,639 Speaker 5: so bad. 1715 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 3: No, not at all, not at all all right, Carrie, 1716 01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:30,719 Speaker 3: are you on or off Reggie Miller being so open 1717 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:35,080 Speaker 3: about his Pacers fandom while covering the playoffs? 1718 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,080 Speaker 4: You guys can't see my face, but. 1719 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 5: I'm definitely on that action, Okay, I am. I mean, 1720 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,800 Speaker 5: TNT knew when they hired him if the Pacers were 1721 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 5: in that position, He's going to be a PACER's guy. 1722 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:49,679 Speaker 4: He's a Pacers guy. 1723 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:50,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 1724 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 5: He's on the number one call for them right now, 1725 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:57,200 Speaker 5: so he's got that game. He's a pacer legend. Of 1726 01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,120 Speaker 5: course he's going to be down with the Pacers all 1727 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:00,519 Speaker 5: the way. 1728 01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 6: Homer one. I'm down for that. 1729 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,599 Speaker 2: Don't hide it. I love it all right, Carrie? Are 1730 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:09,360 Speaker 2: you honor? 1731 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 3: You're laughing Sydney Sweeney selling five thousand bars of soap 1732 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,519 Speaker 3: that contain drops of her own bath water. 1733 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,519 Speaker 6: Yes, I am off that for sure. 1734 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1735 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 6: I'm a pretty I'm a pretty clean guy. 1736 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:28,080 Speaker 5: And to have the thought that some random woman is 1737 01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,640 Speaker 5: random selling her soap, her soapy water and giving it 1738 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,479 Speaker 5: to other people recycled, it makes me want to bar. 1739 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,800 Speaker 4: Okay, so that's where I am with it. 1740 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy you. I'm gonna buy you this soap. 1741 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 3: I just want you to know that you're getting a 1742 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,599 Speaker 3: Sydney sweety soap with her own bathwater. Do you guys 1743 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 3: remember years ago when Kevin Durant tweeted something like I 1744 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,600 Speaker 3: would drink Scarlet. 1745 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:58,680 Speaker 2: Johansson's So you're not on that either, no drinking and 1746 01:18:58,800 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 2: no soap. 1747 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:04,520 Speaker 4: No, it's just like me, absolutely not wrink the water. Yes, 1748 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,559 Speaker 4: it's just like me, like soap. Why would you do that? Why? 1749 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,280 Speaker 5: I mean, and there's gonna she's gonna be a billion 1750 01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 5: a billionaire off of this guy. Somebody's a lot of 1751 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 5: weirdos are going to buy it and make it. 1752 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,120 Speaker 3: It's only five thousand bars, soap. 1753 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,920 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a limited edition for you. 1754 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,959 Speaker 3: Don't you worry. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Don't go anywhere. 1755 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:30,120 Speaker 3: He's carry Roads. 1756 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:31,920 Speaker 6: I'm buying soap. 1757 01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,280 Speaker 2: Oh if these mics. 1758 01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 4: They knew what we would say. 1759 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,040 Speaker 2: We were just talking about what's up? 1760 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,720 Speaker 3: Everybody happy Sunday June first, thank you for hanging out 1761 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,720 Speaker 3: with us. I'm ancy carry Roads here with me as 1762 01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,680 Speaker 3: we now dive back into the n b A. But 1763 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 3: this time we're gonna dive into the finals. 1764 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,360 Speaker 2: Carrie, It's not until Thursday. Seems far away. 1765 01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,200 Speaker 4: That is a long far away. 1766 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. The next time we're sitting here in a week, 1767 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:07,559 Speaker 2: two games will be already right, Yeah, Thursday and Saturday. 1768 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,760 Speaker 3: Right, so we're here Sunday, Yeah, so two games will 1769 01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,440 Speaker 3: have already completed by the time we reunite. 1770 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 2: So let's dive into what we expect here. 1771 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,760 Speaker 3: I know that a lot of people are saying this 1772 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,799 Speaker 3: is gonna be a boring series. 1773 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,120 Speaker 2: Two small markets, and I don't know if it's. 1774 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,680 Speaker 3: Just gonna be like us, We're not casuals. 1775 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,760 Speaker 2: We love the NBA, we love basketball. 1776 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,599 Speaker 3: I feel like anyone who thinks that, it's like you're 1777 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,320 Speaker 3: gonna miss out on what could be a really fun 1778 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 3: series because of the matchup, Like, there's so much that 1779 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 3: I feel like they're good at this, but they're good 1780 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:44,160 Speaker 3: at that. 1781 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,080 Speaker 2: So how is this gonna balance out? How's it gonna work? 1782 01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:51,200 Speaker 3: You get two really awesome guards in Tyrese Halliburton, who 1783 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,760 Speaker 3: loves the moment as we've seen, loves the moment, and 1784 01:20:54,800 --> 01:21:01,519 Speaker 3: then the MVP, Shaye Gilgess Alexander. I do believe that 1785 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:06,200 Speaker 3: OKAC is the team that should win this, but I 1786 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,719 Speaker 3: also didn't think Indiana should be here, and here they are. 1787 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:09,679 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1788 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,320 Speaker 3: Yea, So even though I think OKAC should win this, 1789 01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:18,760 Speaker 3: I think the Thunder can give them a run for 1790 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,040 Speaker 3: their money. 1791 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,400 Speaker 2: They're gonna have the pace to keep up with the Thunder. 1792 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,360 Speaker 3: The Thunder have a great pace, but they both do 1793 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,720 Speaker 3: so it's like, okay, great that eliminates each other. The 1794 01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,240 Speaker 3: defense for OKAC, obviously we know, is out of this world. 1795 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,080 Speaker 3: They're gonna guard the Pacers a minute they get off 1796 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,920 Speaker 3: the bus. But at the same time, all of the 1797 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:41,160 Speaker 3: Pacers play pretty good defense. Also, like it's not like 1798 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 3: it's super lopsided. It's just we're used to OKAYC being 1799 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:49,720 Speaker 3: the heavy defensive team as we've seen all year. But 1800 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,640 Speaker 3: I will say, if we want to look at the 1801 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:56,639 Speaker 3: regular season for anything, Tyre's Halliburn in the last two 1802 01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:01,920 Speaker 3: years against OKAC his lowest average against any. 1803 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,479 Speaker 2: Team twelve points. Who's Tyre's Halliburn? 1804 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:05,720 Speaker 6: Wow? 1805 01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,639 Speaker 2: Again, four games over the. 1806 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:11,240 Speaker 3: Course of two years, lowest average against any team, it's 1807 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:12,160 Speaker 3: been against. 1808 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,320 Speaker 2: OKAYC got Okay. So if you if we want to 1809 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 2: look at the regular season, all right. 1810 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,640 Speaker 3: He also hasn't shot the ball a lot though, Like 1811 01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 3: it hasn't been that he has shot twenty five shots 1812 01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,160 Speaker 3: and has not shot well. He just has not shot 1813 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 3: the ball. Now, is that that he's not aggressive or 1814 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,599 Speaker 3: is that the defense on Okay? See, I don't know. 1815 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,040 Speaker 3: Right playoffs are gonna be a little bit different. Lou 1816 01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 3: Dort has been the best defender on Halliburton, Okay statistically, 1817 01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,559 Speaker 3: Like if you look at the numbers, he is the 1818 01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,640 Speaker 3: guy that has the best time with him or the 1819 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,960 Speaker 3: other way that Halliburton has had the worst time with 1820 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,559 Speaker 3: right has been Loudort, But we know that okayc likes 1821 01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,920 Speaker 3: to move around like it might not just be lou Dort, 1822 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,439 Speaker 3: maybe Alex Caruso, you know, maybe a little Jalen Williams. 1823 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1824 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,120 Speaker 4: I don't know what they're gonna do, but they. 1825 01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,200 Speaker 2: Got a lot that's exact. 1826 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,200 Speaker 3: Pacers shoot really well from the three, as we saw 1827 01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:07,280 Speaker 3: in these playoffs. Okay, see has the best perimeter defense 1828 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,599 Speaker 3: that we've seen. So there's a lot of things where 1829 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,760 Speaker 3: I wonder what's gonna cancel what out. But the one 1830 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,440 Speaker 3: thing that does stand out to me is Tyrese Halliburn's 1831 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:19,240 Speaker 3: performance the last against small sample size four games two years. 1832 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,479 Speaker 2: But he's struggled the most. 1833 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,680 Speaker 6: All right, look, I'm looking at this right now, so 1834 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,160 Speaker 6: you're ready, Yeah, right. 1835 01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:27,880 Speaker 2: You're writing out the matchups. 1836 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:28,120 Speaker 10: I get it. 1837 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 2: You need to see it visually. 1838 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:29,799 Speaker 4: I understand. 1839 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:30,280 Speaker 2: I understand. 1840 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 5: So listen right now. You got sg A and Hallie, Right, Halliburton, 1841 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:34,880 Speaker 5: you got Door. 1842 01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:36,439 Speaker 2: I don't think that they're gonna guard each other. 1843 01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 5: Dorm Hart, Yes, you got Williams, Nate Smith, you got 1844 01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,080 Speaker 5: chat Sakham, you got Hart and Stein Turner. 1845 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:44,400 Speaker 6: Right. 1846 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I look at those both starting lineups, and it's 1847 01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,120 Speaker 5: pretty even. I you know, I think it's even. I 1848 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 5: think there's some places where you can say Indiana has 1849 01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,679 Speaker 5: the advantage. You can say the same thing about Okay. See, 1850 01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,479 Speaker 5: it's gonna come down to the bench. Both teams are deep, 1851 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:06,200 Speaker 5: both teams can play a lot of players. But I think, Okay, 1852 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:11,840 Speaker 5: CS bench is a bigger factor in this series. And 1853 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,080 Speaker 5: I say that because of what we just what you 1854 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:18,560 Speaker 5: just talked about Halliburton, He's gonna get worn down. 1855 01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:19,280 Speaker 6: In this series. 1856 01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 5: And this is what I'm scared for them, because they're 1857 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,400 Speaker 5: gonna throw door It at him first. Yep, They're gonna 1858 01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:29,000 Speaker 5: throw Caruso at him. They're gonna throw Cason Wallace at him. 1859 01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,160 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, like he's. 1860 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,960 Speaker 6: Not gonna get a break at all. 1861 01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,840 Speaker 5: And so what that means for me is when you 1862 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,960 Speaker 5: look at it the other way around, who are they 1863 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,040 Speaker 5: gonna throw at Sga, Right, They're gonna they're gonna throw 1864 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,120 Speaker 5: Nim Hart, They're gonna throw Nie Smith. I would think 1865 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:46,200 Speaker 5: Nie Smith would be first on them. But it's gonna 1866 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,479 Speaker 5: come down to these matchups, these individual matchups, and it's 1867 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,080 Speaker 5: gonna come down to the bench and when I look 1868 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,840 Speaker 5: at Okac's bench and what they're able to do as 1869 01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:57,120 Speaker 5: far as their pressure up and down the court, which 1870 01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:01,000 Speaker 5: the Pacers can do as well. But with just they 1871 01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,280 Speaker 5: have so many options to throw at the head of 1872 01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,960 Speaker 5: the snake for Indianapolis, which is Haliburton, which it scares me. 1873 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:11,160 Speaker 5: For the Pacers, I guess I'm gonna you know, I'm 1874 01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:16,360 Speaker 5: leaning towards Okay see here, and I think I would 1875 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:20,679 Speaker 5: say probably six games, but I'm not ready to count 1876 01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,640 Speaker 5: off the Pacers yet, and so I don't want to 1877 01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,040 Speaker 5: make my pick just yet. 1878 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,599 Speaker 6: Before we leave. I will, but let me think about 1879 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:27,120 Speaker 6: a little more. 1880 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,680 Speaker 3: I'm with you one hundred percent, and even talking with 1881 01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:32,559 Speaker 3: mark Stein in our one, if you haven't listened, you're 1882 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,680 Speaker 3: gonna check out the podcast. Don't worry, we will put 1883 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 3: up the podcast. In fact, shortly after the show, our 1884 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,559 Speaker 3: podcast will be going up. Don't worry about that. But 1885 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 3: even mark Stein said, like everybody has just dismissed the Pacers. 1886 01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,160 Speaker 3: They've just been underrated the whole season for a reason 1887 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 3: because they weren't very great at the start of the season, 1888 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,280 Speaker 3: but they picked it up when it mattered, and here 1889 01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 3: they are so okay, see, also cannot take them for granted. 1890 01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,320 Speaker 2: No, everything they've done in. 1891 01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 3: This playoffs, this postseason shows that they have every right 1892 01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:06,360 Speaker 3: to be here. They have comeback wins, they have tight wins, 1893 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,559 Speaker 3: they have a couple of blowout wins. 1894 01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:09,599 Speaker 2: They've done it all. 1895 01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,960 Speaker 3: But so has the Thunder, Right, the thunder have also 1896 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,840 Speaker 3: had a pretty easy time in the playoffs. Now, I 1897 01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:21,000 Speaker 3: don't know if that's gonna hit them negatively because you 1898 01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,879 Speaker 3: haven't been as tested as the Pacers. 1899 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:25,400 Speaker 2: And we've talked about Rick. 1900 01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:29,120 Speaker 3: Carlisle and how great he has been using his entire 1901 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,240 Speaker 3: team and trusting them that I feel like he has 1902 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,760 Speaker 3: to have a game plan for how to get Tyreese 1903 01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:36,639 Speaker 3: Haliburton going. 1904 01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,400 Speaker 2: But that's gonna be the most important thing. 1905 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, And the thing about Tyree is Halliburton. He can 1906 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,519 Speaker 5: have a positive impact on the game. 1907 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,400 Speaker 2: What else that's scoring and yes, and so it's. 1908 01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,479 Speaker 5: Not about I mean, he's going to have to score 1909 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,479 Speaker 5: for them to win this series, now, don't get it twisted. Sure, 1910 01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,560 Speaker 5: but they can win without him scoring twenty five points. Absolutely, 1911 01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,320 Speaker 5: And so it goes to the other matchups, right, and 1912 01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,960 Speaker 5: then we talk about it. Carlile, who you know I'm 1913 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,760 Speaker 5: big on and I've talked about him before. I would 1914 01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:08,040 Speaker 5: take Carlile over Mark Degnol right now, I would too. 1915 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,280 Speaker 5: So when it comes to the coach in acumen and 1916 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,960 Speaker 5: what's going to happen in the in the flow of 1917 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:19,040 Speaker 5: a series, I've seen Carlile with the Dallas Mavericks beat 1918 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 5: the mighty the Mighty Miami Heat with the Big Three, 1919 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,599 Speaker 5: So I don't count him out of any situation. 1920 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:26,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. 1921 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,960 Speaker 3: Another thing that okay see, I don't think is ready 1922 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,960 Speaker 3: that they maybe did not see. Okay, they faced the Grizzlies, 1923 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,360 Speaker 3: they faced Minnesota. 1924 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:36,880 Speaker 2: And they faced who am I missing? 1925 01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:37,240 Speaker 6: Denver? 1926 01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,120 Speaker 2: Denver? Yep, Denver, Denver. 1927 01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,960 Speaker 3: Denver protects the ball pretty well. But I feel like 1928 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,080 Speaker 3: with the Grizzlies and with Minnesota, they don't protect the 1929 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,799 Speaker 3: ball the way the Pacers do. So like okay see 1930 01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,920 Speaker 3: averages over ten steals per game when it comes to 1931 01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,720 Speaker 3: the with this postseason, I don't see that being a 1932 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,679 Speaker 3: thing for them. I think Pacers take care of the ball, 1933 01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,600 Speaker 3: and that's going to be a couple of points that 1934 01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,400 Speaker 3: okay see those fast break points, the steals, that's not 1935 01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:04,439 Speaker 3: gonna happen for okay see. 1936 01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:05,400 Speaker 2: I think in this series. 1937 01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 5: That's gonna be key. I mean, that's that's key in 1938 01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,840 Speaker 5: any series, but especially in this one. Right the team 1939 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,439 Speaker 5: that can get the most the most possessions in this 1940 01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 5: series is gonna win because again, both teams like to score, 1941 01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 5: both teams can run, Both teams are playing really good 1942 01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,599 Speaker 5: defense in this playoff run, and so when you look 1943 01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:28,799 Speaker 5: at the numbers, I'm sure they're very probably equally matched. 1944 01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,599 Speaker 5: Whoever doesn't turn the ball over is gonna win, and 1945 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:36,640 Speaker 5: we're we're discounting. I don't think we have overall, but 1946 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:40,160 Speaker 5: in right now, in this scenario, the Pacers can cause 1947 01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:40,880 Speaker 5: turnovers as well. 1948 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and so I did earlier. 1949 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,720 Speaker 5: They score, yes, and so it's gonna come down the 1950 01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,800 Speaker 5: turnovers and who gets the most possessions with Who's gonna 1951 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,760 Speaker 5: win this series to me in my opinion, So. 1952 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,120 Speaker 2: Let's say we eliminate I think you're on it. Let's 1953 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,440 Speaker 2: say we just eliminate. 1954 01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,200 Speaker 3: SGA because Pacers, no one, he's gonna he's gonna try 1955 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:01,840 Speaker 3: and get felled. 1956 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:02,280 Speaker 11: They know that. 1957 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,439 Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, we come in with the with 1958 01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,439 Speaker 2: the plan, don't foul him. 1959 01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,439 Speaker 6: And they just played who does the same. 1960 01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,880 Speaker 3: Thing, the same thing so they can adjust to that, 1961 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,120 Speaker 3: and I'm sure they're planning for that. And then let's 1962 01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:19,280 Speaker 3: say they eliminate Tyrese Haliburton from scoring, but like you said, 1963 01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,439 Speaker 3: he's going to have high assists. 1964 01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:22,560 Speaker 2: He can still rebound. 1965 01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,479 Speaker 3: The ball, he can deliver in other ways. Then it 1966 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,439 Speaker 3: moves on to the next players. And so I feel 1967 01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:32,960 Speaker 3: like it's gonna come down to Jalen Williams for the Thunder, 1968 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,200 Speaker 3: not Chet Holmgren. I think it's on Jalen Williams. Why 1969 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,800 Speaker 3: because I think Chet is gonna be Chet. Can Chet 1970 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:42,160 Speaker 3: be more than what he already does? 1971 01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, not this year. Maybe you get what 1972 01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Maybe not this year. 1973 01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,559 Speaker 3: I think the ceiling is still the question is still 1974 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:52,800 Speaker 3: there for how much Chet Homegren can grow. 1975 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,639 Speaker 2: But right now I think this is what we're gonna get. 1976 01:29:55,720 --> 01:30:00,040 Speaker 3: I feel like for Jalen Williams, he can actually go 1977 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,759 Speaker 3: off and I think he will be the X factor 1978 01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:03,679 Speaker 3: for the Thunder. 1979 01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,120 Speaker 6: That's a good one. He's going to have a tough 1980 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:06,639 Speaker 6: matchup though. 1981 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,200 Speaker 2: He is gonna have a tough match He's either going to. 1982 01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:12,479 Speaker 5: Have Siakam or Nie Smith on him or topping as well. 1983 01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,040 Speaker 5: Like they got guys who can defend him at at 1984 01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,680 Speaker 5: a at a high rate, so he is going to 1985 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:18,599 Speaker 5: have to play. 1986 01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:19,160 Speaker 6: Well for them to win. 1987 01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:24,720 Speaker 5: But I actually I'm actually intrigued with this Chet and 1988 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,120 Speaker 5: Males Turner matchup for me as well. They're both guys 1989 01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,439 Speaker 5: who like to stretch it, stretch fives, They're they're picking 1990 01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:34,000 Speaker 5: pop guys. I think now with Turner he will actually 1991 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,120 Speaker 5: have a little bit of an advantage inside this time 1992 01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:38,920 Speaker 5: because he had to deal with Mitchell Robinson who was 1993 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:45,080 Speaker 5: killing everybody last series. So I think he's got he's got. 1994 01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:49,200 Speaker 5: I think Turner's gonna have the advantage inside to get 1995 01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 5: a little bit more physical than Chests, And so I 1996 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,519 Speaker 5: want to see what happens with Chet. 1997 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,280 Speaker 3: Here because I do feel like, you know, Mitchell Robinson 1998 01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,480 Speaker 3: was so great, but he is like almost like a tree. 1999 01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,240 Speaker 2: Right like you you you face, you come and it's 2000 01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:01,840 Speaker 2: like this tree and you just don't know what to 2001 01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:02,280 Speaker 2: do with it. 2002 01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,320 Speaker 3: With chet Holmgren, he's like a branch and you get 2003 01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:05,920 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 2004 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:06,280 Speaker 4: It's like. 2005 01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,080 Speaker 2: But the thing with Cheded Holmgren is. 2006 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,120 Speaker 3: Like, oh, you think you got past him, but his 2007 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,840 Speaker 3: long arm is right there to block you. So you 2008 01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,640 Speaker 3: might think you got past him as you would with 2009 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,320 Speaker 3: another tree like Mitchell Robinson. 2010 01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:21,599 Speaker 2: But Chet is there. 2011 01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,080 Speaker 3: Chet is quick enough to get back even if you 2012 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:27,439 Speaker 3: can't pass him for a hot second. And so Chet 2013 01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,080 Speaker 3: is that's gonna be a good matchup. And like Myles Turner, 2014 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought him up because you're really high 2015 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:32,679 Speaker 3: on him. 2016 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:34,840 Speaker 2: And then he was He was fine, He. 2017 01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:36,960 Speaker 3: Was fine, but he kind of cooled off a little 2018 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,080 Speaker 3: bit in this series, you know what I'm saying, like 2019 01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,280 Speaker 3: and down, a little up and down. 2020 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:42,360 Speaker 2: And I do think he is. 2021 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,479 Speaker 3: He's definitely gonna have to deliver. But they're all gonna 2022 01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,280 Speaker 3: have to deliver. If we just eliminate the two guards, 2023 01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,000 Speaker 3: everybody else still has to perform. 2024 01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:50,320 Speaker 10: Woo. 2025 01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean look at it. I mean you look 2026 01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:57,559 Speaker 5: at their start in five. Okay, see it has to 2027 01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,639 Speaker 5: be Chet, Williams and Sga like have to score. 2028 01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do because if you look. 2029 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,960 Speaker 5: At it, I mean, obviously they're talented and they score 2030 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,000 Speaker 5: points off their defense. But if you're not turning the 2031 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,559 Speaker 5: ball over, which the Pacers do not do they don't. 2032 01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:15,639 Speaker 5: This is why the series can flip. I mean, Sga is, 2033 01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,200 Speaker 5: he's gonna have to be an MVP in this series. 2034 01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,360 Speaker 5: But Williams and chet are gonna have to be all 2035 01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,960 Speaker 5: stars to win this series as well, and so are 2036 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:26,520 Speaker 5: they both going to win that matchups? 2037 01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:30,040 Speaker 4: I don't know, So that's what I'm saying. 2038 01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:34,040 Speaker 5: And then you think about just the NBA Finals experience 2039 01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:38,080 Speaker 5: for these two teams. There's two guys one on each 2040 01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:43,120 Speaker 5: team who's won a championship before, but one who knows 2041 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,120 Speaker 5: how to do it at a higher level than the other, 2042 01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,320 Speaker 5: and that's Pascal Siaka and Alex Caruso. 2043 01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,880 Speaker 4: Carusso is a role player. He's going to do his. 2044 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 5: Thing, but Siakam knows what he plays at a high 2045 01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:56,280 Speaker 5: level and knows how to get this thing done. So 2046 01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:58,960 Speaker 5: Williams is going to have to match Siakam and that's 2047 01:32:59,000 --> 01:32:59,799 Speaker 5: gonna be interesting. 2048 01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,439 Speaker 3: If you're listening and we haven't sold this to you, 2049 01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,679 Speaker 3: because this is gonna be better. I think the people 2050 01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,639 Speaker 3: are anticipating, and I even if like I don't, I can't. 2051 01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,040 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna decide yet. We'll leave it at the 2052 01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,160 Speaker 3: end to see what we both feel our final prediction, right, Yes, 2053 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:20,080 Speaker 3: but I I just don't see, okay, see walking away 2054 01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,960 Speaker 3: with this easily. I think the Pacers are gonna make 2055 01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,840 Speaker 3: it hard. Even if okay See wins. This might be 2056 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,720 Speaker 3: a much closer matchup than people are making it out 2057 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,439 Speaker 3: to be. And it's because of depth, it's because of coaching, 2058 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,760 Speaker 3: it's because of pace, it's because of protecting the ball. 2059 01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:36,799 Speaker 2: They all do. 2060 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,759 Speaker 6: That, and real basketball. 2061 01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 2: And real basketball. 2062 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,559 Speaker 5: Outside of outside of the flopping from Shaye you know, 2063 01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,920 Speaker 5: I hate, yes, Outside of that, it's real basketball. It's 2064 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,760 Speaker 5: gonna be adjustments, is gonna be game playing specific, it's 2065 01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,479 Speaker 5: gonna be pace, gonna be a lot of ball movement, 2066 01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,040 Speaker 5: pure point guards. It's gonna be a lot. 2067 01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,040 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a lot run and we're gonna see 2068 01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,960 Speaker 3: you know, two arenas that the fans actually put their 2069 01:33:59,160 --> 01:33:59,720 Speaker 3: their shirts on. 2070 01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:01,840 Speaker 4: They're gonna they're actually. 2071 01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:04,120 Speaker 3: We're actually is everybody wearing yellow or everybody wear white 2072 01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:05,120 Speaker 3: or blue? 2073 01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,680 Speaker 2: I can't wait, I need to pay us they we 2074 01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,040 Speaker 2: just we just saw that without even really trying. But 2075 01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:11,240 Speaker 2: it's like, these are the facts, guys. 2076 01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:14,160 Speaker 3: These teams are actually very similar and how you win 2077 01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:19,920 Speaker 3: basketball games. They both execute all of those things. Woa wait, 2078 01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:23,160 Speaker 3: you know it's funny, shake Gil just Alexander has not 2079 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:24,240 Speaker 3: won anything. 2080 01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,880 Speaker 2: A star, superstar and a pretty hated one. 2081 01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:30,520 Speaker 4: He's getting up there yet already. 2082 01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:32,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I saw a clip of Sabrina and Escu 2083 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:38,280 Speaker 5: saying something. 2084 01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:39,720 Speaker 2: About the fowls. Yes, So is there a superstar out 2085 01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,880 Speaker 2: there that's not really hated? I think there is? You do, 2086 01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,360 Speaker 2: I do, and we're gonna dive into that. He's Carrie. 2087 01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,639 Speaker 3: I'm Moncey and you're listening to Fox Sports Round. 2088 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,200 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. 2089 01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:56,719 Speaker 3: I am Moncey Bolanos alongside former All Pro safety Carrie Roads, 2090 01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:02,479 Speaker 3: hanging out with you on this June first June, first June, 2091 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:05,679 Speaker 3: the first of June, the first of June. 2092 01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,360 Speaker 2: God, it's Christmas is tomorrow. Like, That's what I feel. 2093 01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,120 Speaker 6: That's what I'm thinking about right now, right. 2094 01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:14,519 Speaker 2: It's that's how I feel. Football season is already here. 2095 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,160 Speaker 2: That's how it feels like, which. 2096 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:17,679 Speaker 6: Were very Division's almost settled. 2097 01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,280 Speaker 2: The division is almost settled. Absolutely. 2098 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,320 Speaker 3: There is one game going on right now in baseball 2099 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:28,479 Speaker 3: where Carrie and I are are not, and it's the 2100 01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,840 Speaker 3: Dodgers and the Yankees, because Carrie is a Yankee fan, 2101 01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:33,160 Speaker 3: right and after that. 2102 01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,800 Speaker 2: Ass whooping yesterday, you have to say that. I mean, 2103 01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:37,920 Speaker 2: but those are facts, you know what I'm saying those. 2104 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:39,360 Speaker 2: It was bad. 2105 01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:40,519 Speaker 4: It was bad. 2106 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:43,040 Speaker 2: It was Game one. Was exciting for you. 2107 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,000 Speaker 4: The Dodgers won, but I mean. 2108 01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:47,719 Speaker 2: But it was an exciting game. 2109 01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:49,720 Speaker 6: Will not be swept. I know that we're winning to. 2110 01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,960 Speaker 2: You are in Europe right now. It's just got going. 2111 01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:52,719 Speaker 2: It just got going. 2112 01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:57,320 Speaker 3: And Yoshinobu Yamamoto is on the mound for the Dodgers 2113 01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:59,599 Speaker 3: and the Yankees already on the scoreboard, it's one zero. 2114 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure Martin Weiss will have more to tell you 2115 01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:07,320 Speaker 3: in a little bit. But on Friday night at the game, Shay, listen, Martin, 2116 01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:07,880 Speaker 3: I see you. 2117 01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,479 Speaker 2: Don't indicate that you don't have anything to tell me. 2118 01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:16,000 Speaker 2: I see you, okay. We have glass windows here, you guys, 2119 01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,280 Speaker 2: I can see you. I can't hear you, but I 2120 01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:18,920 Speaker 2: can see you. 2121 01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:24,320 Speaker 3: On a fridayday Game one between the Dodgers and the Yankees, 2122 01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,799 Speaker 3: I was at Dodger Stadium with our producer, Shay. Shae 2123 01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,759 Speaker 3: was there with a friend. I was working and stuck 2124 01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,439 Speaker 3: around to catch some of. 2125 01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:35,520 Speaker 4: The game time out, But where was my invite? 2126 01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,840 Speaker 2: I was working. He went with his buddy who has 2127 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:42,800 Speaker 2: a partial scene. So that's that's what it was. Trust me. 2128 01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,519 Speaker 3: Shit was trying to find tickets and he got real 2129 01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:46,280 Speaker 3: lucky that his buddy hit him up. 2130 01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:50,640 Speaker 2: So we are we're watching this game, and in one of. 2131 01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:54,639 Speaker 3: The VIP areas we'll say where like the season sweets 2132 01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,600 Speaker 3: are and whatnot. So we're hanging out and it's the 2133 01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,640 Speaker 3: first inning and everybody's super excited, right Yankees. 2134 01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,800 Speaker 2: Dodgers, And Aaron Judge hits a home run in the 2135 01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:02,320 Speaker 2: first inning. 2136 01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:03,400 Speaker 6: What he does? 2137 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:04,240 Speaker 2: What he does? 2138 01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:09,040 Speaker 3: Okay, and in our section and like you couldn't really 2139 01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:12,320 Speaker 3: hear it, but there were no booze, no booze when 2140 01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:14,840 Speaker 3: Aaron Judge hit that home run and Shaye right put 2141 01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:15,960 Speaker 3: your MinC up shaw you were there with her. 2142 01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, so ah, no booze at all, no booze 2143 01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:21,880 Speaker 12: if anything. I looked at Manzi and I was like, 2144 01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,599 Speaker 12: I don't know how to feel right, Like it's it's 2145 01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,280 Speaker 12: cool because like I've never seen the Yankees play. I'm 2146 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,679 Speaker 12: a massive Dodger fan. But if I was to choose 2147 01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:33,840 Speaker 12: a team and they're different in the other conference, it's. 2148 01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:36,360 Speaker 2: It should be. Of course that's also my American League team. 2149 01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,240 Speaker 12: To yeah, exactly exactly. So when I saw that, I 2150 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:41,639 Speaker 12: was like, oh, it was cool, but like the first 2151 01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:43,720 Speaker 12: inning what's going on? 2152 01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,479 Speaker 2: But no joke. I think that was everyone's reaction. There 2153 01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:49,599 Speaker 2: were no boos. In fact, I feel like some people 2154 01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,600 Speaker 2: clapped because there were Dodger fans. They were like, oh 2155 01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,880 Speaker 2: okay Aaron, oh okay. Yes, it was just a moment. 2156 01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,160 Speaker 2: And then I looked at Shay right then and there, 2157 01:37:59,160 --> 01:37:59,439 Speaker 2: and I. 2158 01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:04,360 Speaker 3: Was like, I feel like Aaron Judge is the most 2159 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,120 Speaker 3: loved superstar in sports. 2160 01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,120 Speaker 2: Like nobody hates Aaron Judge. 2161 01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:13,040 Speaker 3: And that's where sports like across all sports, Aaron Judge 2162 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:16,120 Speaker 3: and I mean super star, right, yes, like not just 2163 01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:20,680 Speaker 3: because we're there's stars everywhere, but like and he's a star, right, 2164 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:22,680 Speaker 3: star star star stars. 2165 01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:27,599 Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone dislikes Aaron Judge. 2166 01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,000 Speaker 6: I I don't think so. 2167 01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:30,960 Speaker 4: I don't think so. 2168 01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:34,400 Speaker 5: But I think the reason behind it for him is 2169 01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,639 Speaker 5: why I think there's a couple. 2170 01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:37,880 Speaker 2: Okay, let's dive into that. 2171 01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:43,519 Speaker 5: Okay, For him, he has no and I'm knock on wood, 2172 01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:45,640 Speaker 5: he has no controversy. 2173 01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:47,680 Speaker 2: No controversy. That's a good one. 2174 01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,040 Speaker 12: So number one he has a controversy. The most is 2175 01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:53,200 Speaker 12: like he didn't pay like a contractor, but like like 2176 01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:55,840 Speaker 12: like it's like not a real controversy because I'm sure 2177 01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,360 Speaker 12: he did pay the contractor just trying to do something, 2178 01:38:58,360 --> 01:38:59,120 Speaker 12: you know, right. 2179 01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:03,679 Speaker 6: So he has none of that. He only speaks about 2180 01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:04,160 Speaker 6: the team. 2181 01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,240 Speaker 2: Yes, that's a big part. I do agree. 2182 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:11,559 Speaker 5: He does not talk about himself at all. He deflects everything, yep. 2183 01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:16,479 Speaker 5: And I think the other part of it with him 2184 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:23,080 Speaker 5: is he's such a big human being. Yes, but he's 2185 01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,400 Speaker 5: so kind at the same time, like kind hearted, so 2186 01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:28,960 Speaker 5: that people I think there's like this affinity, like this 2187 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:34,160 Speaker 5: attraction to that for him, yes, which other people don't have. 2188 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:36,120 Speaker 6: Like he's already like superhuman. 2189 01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:39,719 Speaker 5: Yes, he plays like a superhuman absolutely, and he also 2190 01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:41,439 Speaker 5: seems to be a superhuman yes. 2191 01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:44,519 Speaker 4: Air quotes so like, there's no why would you hate 2192 01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:44,920 Speaker 4: that guy? 2193 01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,120 Speaker 3: You know, you hit it right on the money with 2194 01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,120 Speaker 3: a lot of things like no reason to hate, But 2195 01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:52,679 Speaker 3: I feel like, SGA, there's no reason really to hate 2196 01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,759 Speaker 3: this guy. He became a superstar kind of overnight, hasn't 2197 01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,360 Speaker 3: won anything. Because I do think that's a part of it. 2198 01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:02,599 Speaker 3: Like everybody loved Pat Mahomes until he started winning, and now. 2199 01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:04,320 Speaker 2: It's like, oh I can't stand him. 2200 01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:04,920 Speaker 1: Boy. 2201 01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,799 Speaker 16: You were really rooting for him against Tom Brady because 2202 01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,240 Speaker 16: you wanted Tom Brady to stop winning, so then he 2203 01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,040 Speaker 16: starts winning, and then that flipped a script a script 2204 01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,920 Speaker 16: And now obviously like adding, you know Travis Kelcey, like 2205 01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:17,080 Speaker 16: there's more to it now. 2206 01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:19,559 Speaker 3: But even before Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey was a 2207 01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:22,960 Speaker 3: thing with the Chiefs, people already started hating Patrick Mahomes 2208 01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:23,960 Speaker 3: and the Chiefs. 2209 01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:28,160 Speaker 4: Because of winning. So winning, he hasn't won yet. He 2210 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:29,400 Speaker 4: has not won. 2211 01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,639 Speaker 3: He was in the World Series, we know that, and 2212 01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,800 Speaker 3: he has not won. I wonder if that changes, but 2213 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,519 Speaker 3: I don't because of what you said. The Yankees have 2214 01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,640 Speaker 3: not had a captain since Derek Jeter, and then he 2215 01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:44,840 Speaker 3: became a captain because of his persona, his personality and 2216 01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,639 Speaker 3: how he carries himself like that is a big part 2217 01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:51,720 Speaker 3: of it, all right, Steph Curry, is he hated or 2218 01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:55,639 Speaker 3: more loved than hated? And by the way, Martin and Sam, 2219 01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:57,720 Speaker 3: if you guys want to jump in on this Superstar 2220 01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:00,439 Speaker 3: conversation of who's really not hated? 2221 01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,080 Speaker 2: I only think it's Aaron Judge, But what about Steph Curry. 2222 01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:06,479 Speaker 5: He's more loved than hated. But he started to get 2223 01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:07,720 Speaker 5: a little irritating as well. 2224 01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:11,679 Speaker 12: I hated him twenty six. I hated him back then. 2225 01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,479 Speaker 12: Why what do you mean why? I mean, it's just like 2226 01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,920 Speaker 12: it's like it's this guy does not miss a shot, 2227 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,280 Speaker 12: and it's like it's the winning. 2228 01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:22,360 Speaker 4: It's it's the winning. 2229 01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:25,160 Speaker 12: It's not his off field, and like he doesn't do 2230 01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:28,040 Speaker 12: anything like in his press conferences, he's not like a 2231 01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,360 Speaker 12: massive He's great in his press conferences. 2232 01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,200 Speaker 4: He's a showman, does a lot, so he is. 2233 01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:38,000 Speaker 12: That's the difference between him and Judge. Judge is mild mannered, 2234 01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:40,880 Speaker 12: doesn't flip his bat. He's a boring Honestly, he's a 2235 01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,400 Speaker 12: boring guy. Like I don't see him do anything in 2236 01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:45,680 Speaker 12: the media outside of sports, right, Like I don't see 2237 01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,400 Speaker 12: him all he's dating this only fans model for ends, 2238 01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,120 Speaker 12: Like he's not doing that, Like he's not doing any 2239 01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:54,080 Speaker 12: of that stuff. No, but Steph Curry, like he does 2240 01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,519 Speaker 12: do that stuff. And I think that's what kind of 2241 01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,120 Speaker 12: digs at me a little bit, especially during the finals 2242 01:41:59,160 --> 01:41:59,400 Speaker 12: and all. 2243 01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:01,880 Speaker 3: That is the one where I do think it's like 2244 01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,240 Speaker 3: a who is he hated more or loved more? And 2245 01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,280 Speaker 3: I do think it's like Steph Curry the person nobody 2246 01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:10,360 Speaker 3: hates him, No, but Steph Curry the Warrior. 2247 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:16,519 Speaker 17: Yeah, is hated, you know, as a war It's like 2248 01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:17,240 Speaker 17: it's a little him. 2249 01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,960 Speaker 4: I hate that. Oh, I hate the shimmy right now. 2250 01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,320 Speaker 12: It's like, right now, Steph Curry, I love Steph Curry 2251 01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,120 Speaker 12: right now, he's cool. 2252 01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,439 Speaker 2: But if he was right now in the finals. 2253 01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,000 Speaker 12: Well, honestly, I might want to I might just want 2254 01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:33,760 Speaker 12: to see him get that other ring, so he could 2255 01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:34,439 Speaker 12: get that other ring. 2256 01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so he flips you there a little bit. 2257 01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:38,880 Speaker 12: The twenty sixteen Steph Curry, I hate it. Oh, he 2258 01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:42,720 Speaker 12: got a specific I did not. I wanted Lebron. I'm 2259 01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:43,519 Speaker 12: going a Lebron fan. 2260 01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:45,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Lebron's hate it. I hate it. 2261 01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:48,120 Speaker 4: I think he has way more haters than. 2262 01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, on and off the court, hate it all around. 2263 01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,360 Speaker 3: Also loved but also. 2264 01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,280 Speaker 4: Hate him and MJ. Even Kobe's hated. 2265 01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Kobe's a little different now, you know, 2266 01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,880 Speaker 3: yeah obviously, but yes, Kobe was hated a lot of 2267 01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:07,120 Speaker 3: people hated Kobe because yeah, because of winning, and well the. 2268 01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:10,519 Speaker 6: Kobe thing is they wanted to hate though. Yeah. 2269 01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,880 Speaker 4: They If no one's hating on me, I ain't doing 2270 01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:13,240 Speaker 4: the right thing. 2271 01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:15,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I think with that one. 2272 01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:19,080 Speaker 2: Yes, then you look at Caitlyn Clark, hated by so 2273 01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:20,759 Speaker 2: many hate. 2274 01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,839 Speaker 3: Going on Superstar, Yeah, Superstar, first. 2275 01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:26,280 Speaker 2: Year in the league, so hated by so many. 2276 01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,439 Speaker 12: I mean, I mean it's easy to she isn't one 2277 01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:31,960 Speaker 12: because she has those off field, like the media, she's 2278 01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:36,400 Speaker 12: talking to anything. Honestly, that's one thing that like she 2279 01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:39,200 Speaker 12: It was like Angel Rees and what everyone else was 2280 01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:42,040 Speaker 12: saying about her, literally that made them hate her for 2281 01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:42,479 Speaker 12: some reason. 2282 01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:43,040 Speaker 4: I don't know why. 2283 01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,320 Speaker 12: She wasn't really saying anything or doing anything. Does she 2284 01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,840 Speaker 12: was playing the game? Yeah, that's an interesting one. But hated, Yeah, 2285 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,280 Speaker 12: I hated hate. Actually, you know someone that's in the media, 2286 01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:53,599 Speaker 12: but I don't think really has any haters. 2287 01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:55,360 Speaker 10: Yokic. 2288 01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:56,759 Speaker 4: I'm a Laker fan. 2289 01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:59,280 Speaker 2: And I don't is a good one. That is a 2290 01:43:59,320 --> 01:43:59,760 Speaker 2: good one. 2291 01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:02,040 Speaker 12: I don't know if it's because he's like this foreign 2292 01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,280 Speaker 12: guy that to me is like, oh, he's so lovable, 2293 01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,320 Speaker 12: like he's he comes out and he's. 2294 01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:07,240 Speaker 2: Just not a word I would put. 2295 01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,920 Speaker 12: He's so lovable in his press conferences and just like 2296 01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,840 Speaker 12: any time he goes into the media or talks or 2297 01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,439 Speaker 12: like does something horrid, like he doesn't even care about NBA. 2298 01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:16,920 Speaker 12: Like I don't there's something I really like. 2299 01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:17,640 Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. 2300 01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,880 Speaker 5: Well, say, his vocabulary isn't big, so yeah, it reminds. 2301 01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:24,439 Speaker 12: Me of my dad honestly, because like he talks like 2302 01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:26,320 Speaker 12: my dad does. So maybe that's why I love him. 2303 01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:27,479 Speaker 2: But that's a good one. 2304 01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:31,080 Speaker 3: I do think Nicole Yo might be another superstar that 2305 01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:35,080 Speaker 3: is not hated. I'm sure somebody maybe, but like generally 2306 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,800 Speaker 3: not hated. Also only one one. 2307 01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:39,800 Speaker 2: I think people thought he was maybe gonna win more 2308 01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:41,040 Speaker 2: he has not that he can't. 2309 01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he kind of falls in the judge's line, 2310 01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:45,560 Speaker 5: like right, doesn't say much outside of the game. He 2311 01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,920 Speaker 5: just goes out and does his business, and he flops 2312 01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:50,240 Speaker 5: a little bit sometimes he doesn't. 2313 01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:52,800 Speaker 3: More so we saw it this year than ever, Like 2314 01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:55,719 Speaker 3: I feel like it was more heightened than other years. 2315 01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:59,200 Speaker 12: Something with this discussion, though, I think hating we like 2316 01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:01,679 Speaker 12: you keeping the because they're on the team, blah blah blahlah. 2317 01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,880 Speaker 12: Like hating because they're on the team doesn't because like, 2318 01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,719 Speaker 12: if you're a Red Sox fan, you're gonna hate Erin. 2319 01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,320 Speaker 2: You probably and hate the uniform exactly. 2320 01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:11,240 Speaker 12: And it's because he's wearing that uniform. But if he 2321 01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,479 Speaker 12: was on the Red SOX, you would probably love this guy. 2322 01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,960 Speaker 2: Right, So it's a little bit more than the jersey. 2323 01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,680 Speaker 12: Yeah, Like to us, it's like it's them as like 2324 01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:22,360 Speaker 12: a character, them as like in the media. Honestly, if 2325 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,479 Speaker 12: you stay out of the media and you're a good athlete, 2326 01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:27,440 Speaker 12: that's the point, you're probably gonna be a beloved. 2327 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,320 Speaker 4: Player, right, And that's the point it is, all right? 2328 01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:33,559 Speaker 2: What about What do you think about shoeo Tani? How 2329 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:33,920 Speaker 2: do you I? 2330 01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:36,360 Speaker 4: Because we're in LA, Like, I can't say I love 2331 01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:38,760 Speaker 4: the guy, but. 2332 01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:42,040 Speaker 3: Like sometimes when I come across social media comments and this, 2333 01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:44,360 Speaker 3: this and that, I feel like we love. 2334 01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,200 Speaker 2: Him here in LA. 2335 01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:49,200 Speaker 3: But I don't know if he is loved a couple 2336 01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,760 Speaker 3: of things maybe, like some people feel that he took 2337 01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:56,960 Speaker 3: the easy route in joining the Dodgers and already stacked team, 2338 01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,760 Speaker 3: right like that what I think the gambling thing is 2339 01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:01,760 Speaker 3: never going to go away, even if you wanted to, 2340 01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,840 Speaker 3: like and so I think we don't see it. But 2341 01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:09,080 Speaker 3: I feel like O Tawni is not universally loved the 2342 01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:10,240 Speaker 3: way Aaron judges. 2343 01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:12,960 Speaker 5: Oh the crazy part about him, I don't even I 2344 01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,280 Speaker 5: don't even think his name carries as much weight as 2345 01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:16,479 Speaker 5: you guys think either. 2346 01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,120 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously he's a star. I mean we know that. 2347 01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:19,720 Speaker 4: We know that. 2348 01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:24,160 Speaker 5: No, yes, everybody who knows sports knows that I'm saying. 2349 01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:28,240 Speaker 5: I don't think anybody he's on on the radar enough 2350 01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:30,639 Speaker 5: for people to care, which is crazy in my opinion. 2351 01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:31,120 Speaker 6: I don't know. 2352 01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,040 Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't even think about him on 2353 01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:35,000 Speaker 4: the day to day. You know what I mean. 2354 01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,400 Speaker 6: I look and I'm in sports, right, you know what I mean, 2355 01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:38,600 Speaker 6: and I'm in LA. 2356 01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:41,719 Speaker 4: Is that crazy? I mean, yes, I. 2357 01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:43,800 Speaker 2: Think you're You're an exception here to the rule. 2358 01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:47,600 Speaker 3: I do think he is a big topic of conversation, 2359 01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:51,280 Speaker 3: and I do think, like you say, O Tawny to someone, 2360 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:52,599 Speaker 3: they know who it. 2361 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:56,240 Speaker 2: Is, like, you know what I mean, they'd be like, oh, the. 2362 01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,400 Speaker 3: Asian baseball ploorer, because maybe that's why you know what 2363 01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:02,120 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Oh the Asian baseball player, Oh Tony, Like, yes. 2364 01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,320 Speaker 2: I I think he is definitely. 2365 01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,799 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you're right, maybe not as big as Aaron Judge, 2366 01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,240 Speaker 3: like the name the weight of the name. 2367 01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,519 Speaker 5: Let's say, But then Aaron Judge, like his name is 2368 01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:15,080 Speaker 5: different too. 2369 01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,800 Speaker 2: Oh of course, I mean in the specimen that you 2370 01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:19,720 Speaker 2: see is a specimen, Yes, he is. 2371 01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:21,559 Speaker 10: He is. 2372 01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:23,760 Speaker 6: He makes John Carlos. 2373 01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:26,320 Speaker 2: That look small and that's another specimen. 2374 01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:32,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, but like honestly, there's no other superstar like 2375 01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:34,120 Speaker 3: Josh Allen. 2376 01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,040 Speaker 2: A lot of them people hate him, Joe Burrow, a 2377 01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:36,960 Speaker 2: lot of peoplelayed him. 2378 01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:42,400 Speaker 12: Football players it is different than it's carry you know, 2379 01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:44,400 Speaker 12: you were around, I mean you know them meta like 2380 01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:47,200 Speaker 12: a personal level too, So like it's it's a little different. 2381 01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:50,519 Speaker 12: But I feel like, yeah, with these these football players, 2382 01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:51,640 Speaker 12: it's completely different. 2383 01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,520 Speaker 2: Because because it's the fandom. 2384 01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:54,280 Speaker 4: I mean they're not. 2385 01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:56,240 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean they're not even in the media compared 2386 01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:59,639 Speaker 12: to like baseball players and and NBA, I mean NBA 2387 01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:01,200 Speaker 12: players at the top when it comes to being on 2388 01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,480 Speaker 12: the media and doing all that stuff. But like, yeah, 2389 01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,439 Speaker 12: I mean some people just hate like Joe Burrow. 2390 01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:09,559 Speaker 4: I hate him. I don't know why. I have no idea. 2391 01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:11,480 Speaker 2: I mean because division, maybe. 2392 01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:15,960 Speaker 5: No, because he's just looks something about the guy. 2393 01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:18,960 Speaker 4: He went to one super Bowl and now you take 2394 01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:19,519 Speaker 4: you're the best. 2395 01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:20,559 Speaker 2: You can't teach swag. 2396 01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:22,080 Speaker 4: Some people have it, That's true. 2397 01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:24,840 Speaker 3: You can't teach it. Slag is not something you can teach. Kay, 2398 01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:25,800 Speaker 3: and he's got it. 2399 01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:27,040 Speaker 4: He's got but that's why. 2400 01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:27,599 Speaker 2: People hate him. 2401 01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,880 Speaker 3: That is a big I understand that, like anyone anyone 2402 01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:32,080 Speaker 3: who says I hate Joe Burrow. 2403 01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:33,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can see that. I don't hate the guy. 2404 01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:34,880 Speaker 4: I don't I don't hate him. 2405 01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't hate him either, but I can see that. 2406 01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,479 Speaker 3: But maybe you're right that NFL players fall under a 2407 01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:40,679 Speaker 3: completely different category. 2408 01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:41,800 Speaker 2: And I don't know if it has to do with 2409 01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,160 Speaker 2: the fandom that is the NFL. 2410 01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:47,080 Speaker 4: That is, Yeah, that is. 2411 01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:47,439 Speaker 2: What it is. 2412 01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:49,639 Speaker 12: Yes, And there's the reason you don't bring your four 2413 01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:51,280 Speaker 12: year old child to an NFL game. 2414 01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:52,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. 2415 01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:55,080 Speaker 5: And now with the with the with the world, with 2416 01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:57,759 Speaker 5: the world going down the gambling pipeline as well. 2417 01:48:57,800 --> 01:48:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that part too, that part too. 2418 01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:01,680 Speaker 6: Are not living up to their parlays. 2419 01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,880 Speaker 3: Well, listen, if you think there is a superstar out 2420 01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:08,320 Speaker 3: there that is hated less than Aaron Judge can't tweet 2421 01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,080 Speaker 3: at us, but I don't think you're gonna find one. 2422 01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:14,360 Speaker 2: Let's check in with Martin Weiss, the superstar that he is. 2423 01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:21,320 Speaker 3: Oh no, you don't want to talk to us, Jalen Brunson. 2424 01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:23,760 Speaker 2: Talking about but. 2425 01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,760 Speaker 12: He's also not on the same level as like these 2426 01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:29,599 Speaker 12: other guys are talking about Audge. Aaron Judge is much 2427 01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:30,640 Speaker 12: bigger than Jayalen. 2428 01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:31,280 Speaker 2: Bruce Way, bigger. 2429 01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:34,559 Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson is is a on the trajectory to be 2430 01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:35,200 Speaker 3: the superstar. 2431 01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,040 Speaker 2: But even with his stardom, now, I do think he. 2432 01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:40,400 Speaker 4: Has haters and it's a recency bias thing. 2433 01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:46,720 Speaker 11: Yeah, just a single person besides maybe Becky Hammond who 2434 01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:47,839 Speaker 11: is like Jalen Brunson. 2435 01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:49,080 Speaker 4: Can they think. 2436 01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:51,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 2437 01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,639 Speaker 2: No, like they think he goes for the foul and like. 2438 01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:55,840 Speaker 3: Some people are like he doesn't say anything, but it's 2439 01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,120 Speaker 3: like they think he's mad, like I think he's People. 2440 01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:00,920 Speaker 4: Don't like his voice. Aaron Judge. 2441 01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,400 Speaker 2: I swear that you're just making that up. You don't 2442 01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:05,920 Speaker 2: show up in a big game. 2443 01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:09,080 Speaker 11: How about that I'm supposed to hear about how great 2444 01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:09,680 Speaker 11: this guy is. 2445 01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:13,280 Speaker 4: He's supposed to seriously, No, no, we're not talking about greatness, Martin. 2446 01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,800 Speaker 4: We're talking about the most loved. I hate it. 2447 01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:17,920 Speaker 11: This is where this is where my hate comes in, 2448 01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:20,920 Speaker 11: because I've been told by Apple Care and everybody else 2449 01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:23,959 Speaker 11: that Aaron Judges, you know, the player of our times, 2450 01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:26,320 Speaker 11: and I gotta watch him not cover from what the 2451 01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:29,200 Speaker 11: bobble the ball in the outfitield and that he's not. 2452 01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:33,720 Speaker 2: The one who did not cover first. But you're right 2453 01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:35,760 Speaker 2: that whole inning was bad. 2454 01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,000 Speaker 17: He did drop one of the outfield and he hit 2455 01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,240 Speaker 17: his glove. So do you hate do you hate Mike Trout? 2456 01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:44,280 Speaker 17: I don't care about Mike Trust. You shouldn't cared about Judge, 2457 01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:46,519 Speaker 17: you know. I mean if I have to pick between 2458 01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:49,160 Speaker 17: like or hey, I go, hey you you so. 2459 01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:49,720 Speaker 1: You have to pick? 2460 01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:53,920 Speaker 4: I don't care Judge. Okay, which is the biggest, bigger 2461 01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:54,960 Speaker 4: problem in baseball. 2462 01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:56,960 Speaker 6: Actually I care about you know what? 2463 01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:01,840 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm here Tigers fans. Man. I do care about 2464 01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:03,760 Speaker 4: Altani though it was like, you. 2465 01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:09,840 Speaker 11: Know, it's about the bottle lead to tell you got 2466 01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:12,599 Speaker 11: every time I watched him, I think did he take 2467 01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:13,400 Speaker 11: his over today? 2468 01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:19,160 Speaker 4: If he did, he's tracking for right now. 2469 01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:20,880 Speaker 11: I hope he took the under because he's got one 2470 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,640 Speaker 11: strakeout so far south of at Baseball, Yankees with a 2471 01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:26,280 Speaker 11: one run lead, top of the second inning, try and 2472 01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,599 Speaker 11: grish him up to bat Yama Moto on the mound. 2473 01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:33,160 Speaker 11: Yankees got a run earlier today on an error. I'm 2474 01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:37,960 Speaker 11: sorry on an RBI by just On Dominges the Twins 2475 01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,400 Speaker 11: and the Mariners. Cal Rowley with his twenty third home 2476 01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:42,479 Speaker 11: run leads the majors. You would have thought that was 2477 01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:43,960 Speaker 11: Aaron Judges the way they talk about him. 2478 01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:47,759 Speaker 5: He got twenty now thing well three and nobody's talking 2479 01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:51,880 Speaker 5: about it anyway. Got yeah, they're all like knocking, They're 2480 01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:53,080 Speaker 5: all right around each other. 2481 01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:55,280 Speaker 11: That might be a one, two, three four down the line, 2482 01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,719 Speaker 11: who's got the most home runs in Major League Earlier today, 2483 01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,759 Speaker 11: Rangers beat the Cardinals eight to one, Red over Braves 2484 01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,120 Speaker 11: three to one, Orioles Edge of the White Sox three 2485 01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:06,160 Speaker 11: to two. White Sox have won eighteen games so far 2486 01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:09,280 Speaker 11: this year. Just wait, there's more futility coming down the pipe. 2487 01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,960 Speaker 11: Five to two, the Brewers over the Phillies, and Milwaukee's 2488 01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:12,880 Speaker 11: won seventh straight. 2489 01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:15,639 Speaker 4: That Blue Jays double up the Athletics eight. 2490 01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:18,800 Speaker 11: To four, Guardians four to two over the Angels, the 2491 01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:20,559 Speaker 11: Mets five to three over the Rockies. 2492 01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:21,439 Speaker 4: I told you more. 2493 01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:24,360 Speaker 11: Nine wins so far for the for the Rockies this season, 2494 01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:28,599 Speaker 11: a round fifty losses, not a round a round number 2495 01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:31,920 Speaker 11: five zero. San Francisco with a four to two win 2496 01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:33,559 Speaker 11: over Miami Tigers. 2497 01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:34,920 Speaker 4: Edge of the Royals won the nothing. 2498 01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:37,200 Speaker 11: Same score for the Astros and the Rays Clubs with 2499 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,120 Speaker 11: a seven to three win over the Reds again, Kyle 2500 01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:43,200 Speaker 11: Raley at twenty to twenty third homer today and the 2501 01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:46,600 Speaker 11: Diamondbacks beat the Nationals three to one again Someday night 2502 01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:49,160 Speaker 11: baseball going to the bottom of the second. 2503 01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,400 Speaker 4: And the Yankees with a one run lead in the 2504 01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:52,799 Speaker 4: World Series. Rematch. 2505 01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:53,799 Speaker 10: Back to you guys. 2506 01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:54,599 Speaker 2: Thanks Marian. 2507 01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:56,760 Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Sunday, and I know we're 2508 01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:58,880 Speaker 3: running close on time, So guys, you're gonna. 2509 01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:01,559 Speaker 2: Have to quickly figure out your knowledge. 2510 01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,719 Speaker 3: We're gonna play easy as one, two, three four, Sam 2511 01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:08,240 Speaker 3: Shay Marion. They're all lifelines for Carrie as I test 2512 01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:13,960 Speaker 3: their knowledge across all sports. No, we're gonna start now, 2513 01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:15,720 Speaker 3: We're gonna start, and then we'll go into the other 2514 01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:22,080 Speaker 3: side too, Okay, okay, all. 2515 01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:24,760 Speaker 2: Right, so we will easy as one, two, three four 2516 01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,040 Speaker 2: on the other side. I'm Moncey, he's Carrie. This is 2517 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:30,839 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. I am Monty Belanya. 2518 01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:35,280 Speaker 3: It's alongside former all pro Carrie Roads Safety. 2519 01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,240 Speaker 2: I said all pro, but I didn't say what you did. 2520 01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:40,880 Speaker 2: You were all pro safety. Yeah at life, that is right. 2521 01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us and tuning in. 2522 01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:44,240 Speaker 8: Yeah. 2523 01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:46,360 Speaker 3: Shortly after the show. We're gonna be posting our podcast. 2524 01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:48,040 Speaker 3: Don't worry if you missed any of today's show, we're 2525 01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,320 Speaker 3: gonna post it. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you 2526 01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:52,360 Speaker 3: get your podcasts, and be sure to follow review, rate 2527 01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,960 Speaker 3: it five stars. I mean, why not again, we'll post 2528 01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:57,559 Speaker 3: it after the show is done. But now it's time 2529 01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:00,800 Speaker 3: to test my crew's knowledge as we do a little 2530 01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,680 Speaker 3: easy as one, two, three four, And we have to 2531 01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:06,280 Speaker 3: be quick, guys, so go with your gut, all right, Sam, 2532 01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:09,080 Speaker 3: Shay Martin, you're all lifelines here for Carrie. 2533 01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:10,720 Speaker 2: Easy as one, two, three four. 2534 01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:12,600 Speaker 3: I kind of think this is hard, so five and 2535 01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:15,679 Speaker 3: a half is my over under three All right, all right. 2536 01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:16,679 Speaker 2: Let's go quickly, okay. 2537 01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:19,360 Speaker 3: Name one of two teams with the best record in 2538 01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:20,959 Speaker 3: the WNBA right now. 2539 01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:25,200 Speaker 4: The Liberty and. 2540 01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:30,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, Liberty, alright, correct, yes, show me Liberty. 2541 01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:32,880 Speaker 2: That's right. They're seven and oh and the Links are 2542 01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:33,400 Speaker 2: six and oh. 2543 01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:36,920 Speaker 11: By the way, today the final score Liberty song. 2544 01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I saw that, so seven and oh both Liberty 2545 01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:44,080 Speaker 3: and Links undefeated so far. Okay, since the first National 2546 01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:47,440 Speaker 3: Football Championship in eighteen sixty nine, name two of the 2547 01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:53,080 Speaker 3: three schools with the most college football national championships, like. 2548 01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:56,160 Speaker 6: I'd go like Yale at Harvard or right, give me. 2549 01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:59,520 Speaker 2: Two of the three, Sam, you can help at any time. 2550 01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:03,240 Speaker 11: You can go with the school that started football. What's 2551 01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:05,920 Speaker 11: that University of Michigan. You mean Rutgers. 2552 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:11,920 Speaker 15: We're saying we're asking for most national championships in college football? 2553 01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, since eighteen sixty nine. 2554 01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,840 Speaker 4: Are you using as a lifeline? Yes, yeah, Harvard Ary 2555 01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:17,320 Speaker 4: one of those. 2556 01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:17,920 Speaker 10: You go with. 2557 01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:21,680 Speaker 15: Alabama, you can go with I mean, you can go 2558 01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:23,560 Speaker 15: with Minnesota. They have a couple national championship. Are you 2559 01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,920 Speaker 15: just talking about the top the most, the most the 2560 01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:29,760 Speaker 15: most three? If we're going back all the way to 2561 01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,400 Speaker 15: the eighteenth US started football? 2562 01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:33,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, right they did. 2563 01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,920 Speaker 15: The first game was like eighteen sixty three and Pists gataway. Okay, 2564 01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:41,280 Speaker 15: that team finished US history lesson. I mean, I'll just 2565 01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:45,440 Speaker 15: give you. I would say Alabama's probably in the top 2566 01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:47,200 Speaker 15: three of Michigan, Notre Dame. 2567 01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:49,640 Speaker 2: Out of three we need to out of three. 2568 01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:54,240 Speaker 4: Yes, I think Alabama and Notre Dame would be good. 2569 01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:55,840 Speaker 4: You think so those ones? 2570 01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:57,040 Speaker 6: Okay, let's go those. 2571 01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,760 Speaker 3: So you're gonna go Alabama and Notre Dame, let's go Okay, 2572 01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:03,000 Speaker 3: So show me Alabama yes, coming in at number two 2573 01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:05,839 Speaker 3: with sixteen and is it Notre Dame. 2574 01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:09,960 Speaker 2: Fourth overall, So they just didn't make the cut. 2575 01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:14,400 Speaker 3: They've won thirteen, Yale eighteen, Princeton fifteen. 2576 01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:19,760 Speaker 2: You gotta go. Okay, moving out here. 2577 01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:21,120 Speaker 4: He said all the way back. 2578 01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:22,880 Speaker 2: This one is going to be a difficult one. So 2579 01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:23,440 Speaker 2: go with your gut. 2580 01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:28,080 Speaker 3: Swell as three of the four active players in baseball 2581 01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:31,160 Speaker 3: right now with the most doubles. Now, I'm not trying 2582 01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:33,080 Speaker 3: to confuse you or trick you. So think of what's 2583 01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:33,800 Speaker 3: happening right now. 2584 01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:38,640 Speaker 5: Maybe i'd say Will Smith is one of them. 2585 01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:41,520 Speaker 4: Or I know what's happening right now. 2586 01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:43,040 Speaker 2: We just think about it. I'm not trying to trick 2587 01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:43,520 Speaker 2: right now. 2588 01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:47,080 Speaker 12: What's happening now, like the doors. Okay, that's what's happening. 2589 01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:49,880 Speaker 6: I said, Will Smith or Max Monthy one of those. 2590 01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:54,200 Speaker 12: I think it's TiO. I think it's TiO tioscar Hernandez. 2591 01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:55,640 Speaker 2: We'll run out of time. 2592 01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:58,879 Speaker 5: Pick I'm going to say Smith three or four myself, Okay, 2593 01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:04,040 Speaker 5: who well, Oh, you said it's Vopi. Is Vopi one 2594 01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:04,360 Speaker 5: of them? 2595 01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:04,800 Speaker 10: No? 2596 01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:07,680 Speaker 4: You said that's playing right now? 2597 01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:10,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, I don't think so. 2598 01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:12,600 Speaker 4: I think it's t O and Paul Goldmid. 2599 01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:16,520 Speaker 6: Well, I'll go one of I'll go which one? 2600 01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:17,880 Speaker 4: You said, which one do you want to go? 2601 01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:20,680 Speaker 6: Paul gold Schmid, Okay, I'll go gold Smith. 2602 01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:22,200 Speaker 2: Okay, And he won more. 2603 01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:25,760 Speaker 11: He's not in this game, but I think Bobby would 2604 01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:29,200 Speaker 11: have at least third in the RBN doubles. 2605 01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:32,520 Speaker 6: Okay, I'll go with I'll go with Junior golds really. 2606 01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:34,160 Speaker 3: Good answers, and I knew this was going to be tough. 2607 01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:37,640 Speaker 3: Show me Paul Goldschmidt. Yeah, coming in at number two, 2608 01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:41,600 Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty nine. Is it Will Smith? And 2609 01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:42,760 Speaker 3: is it Bobby Witt? 2610 01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:43,240 Speaker 8: No? 2611 01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,280 Speaker 2: But close ones, Freddie Freeman. 2612 01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:50,520 Speaker 3: Guys, Andrew McCutcheon and Jose I'll do it all right. 2613 01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,120 Speaker 4: This season, at all times would have picked Bobby. 2614 01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:55,200 Speaker 2: Players active players. 2615 01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:57,640 Speaker 3: Sorry, Okay, name four of the five teams that have 2616 01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:03,440 Speaker 3: never reached the NBA Finals ever reached the NBA Finals 2617 01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:04,080 Speaker 3: four or five? 2618 01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:10,760 Speaker 11: Charlotte, uh, the Washington Wizards. 2619 01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:14,000 Speaker 4: Wizards, haven't you already been used as a lifeline? 2620 01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:18,200 Speaker 2: They have not reached the finals. 2621 01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:28,920 Speaker 5: So the Pelicans, Okay, Pelicans, Charlotte Wizards, the Brooklyn Nets. 2622 01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:29,240 Speaker 11: Like the Brooklyn version of the Brooklyn net the New 2623 01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:31,600 Speaker 11: Jersey still New Jersey. 2624 01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:35,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so you've given me Hornets, Pelicans, Wizards. 2625 01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:41,200 Speaker 5: Yes, one more, ah, somebody give you one more. 2626 01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:48,160 Speaker 2: The Clippers, thank you. Show me the Clippers. That is correct. 2627 01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:51,320 Speaker 2: Show me the Hornets that is correct. Show me the Pelicans. 2628 01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:56,200 Speaker 2: Is it the Wizards? No, the Wizards have reached the finals. 2629 01:58:56,320 --> 01:59:00,680 Speaker 2: Reach it's yes. The bullet the Wolves and the Grizzlies. 2630 01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:03,040 Speaker 4: The never reached the final. 2631 01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:08,600 Speaker 2: He did not one, two, three, four, five six. 2632 01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:12,440 Speaker 3: You got it because I said you guys, thank you 2633 01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:14,360 Speaker 3: for tuning in Fox Sports Radio. 2634 01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:17,000 Speaker 2: Carrie Rhoades, I'm Manzi Belangos. 2635 01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:19,400 Speaker 3: Get ready because the NBA Finals are gonna be better 2636 01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:20,120 Speaker 3: than you think. 2637 01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,360 Speaker 4: If I would have won more