WEBVTT - Self-Healing Glass and Virtual Dolphins!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, it's Mango here. With summer winding down, we

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<v Speaker 1>are taking a little break, but we will be back

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<v Speaker 1>with brand new episodes starting September ninth. And we have

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<v Speaker 1>been working hard on so many fun episodes this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait for you to listen to them. In

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<v Speaker 1>the meantime, we are re airing our countdown of the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five greatest science ideas of the past twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 1>This list was so joyous to make. Mary and Gabe

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<v Speaker 1>did all this extra research for it. We pulled in

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating and joyous, and honestly, I just hope you enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>it half as much as we enjoyed making it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>dig in. You're listening to Part Time Genius, the production

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<v Speaker 1>of Kaleidoscope and iHeartRadio. Guess what, well, what's that Mango?

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<v Speaker 1>So welcome back to day two of our countdown of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty five greatest science ideas in the past twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years. And you know what's funny is when I

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<v Speaker 1>was driving around last night, I saw a car with

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<v Speaker 1>a bumper sticker, and this is true. It said science

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<v Speaker 1>is like magic, but it's real. Okay, that's a real

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<v Speaker 1>bumper sticker.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that, you know. And considering we've already covered

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<v Speaker 2>how to get catch up to flow smoothly out of

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<v Speaker 2>a bottle and a scientist who capture the actual smell

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<v Speaker 2>of space in a perfume, also a cure for hamster

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<v Speaker 2>jet lag, I'd say we're off to a pretty magical star.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also weird, but it's a pretty magical start. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But as soon as I saw that sticker, I had

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<v Speaker 1>to roll down my window to yel Hey, science fans,

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<v Speaker 2>You are not telling the jos that is not a

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<v Speaker 2>mango move, But I feel like they might like the

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<v Speaker 2>other go to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I'm sure they'll figure it out in the meantime.

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<v Speaker 1>When do you say we get started with day two

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<v Speaker 1>of our incredible countdown?

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<v Speaker 2>Can't wait? Let's dive in. Hey, their podcast listeners, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Part Time Genius. I'm Will Pearson, and as always

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here with my good friend mangesh hot ticket there

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might have inspired him to take up

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<v Speaker 1>this new hobby with that little story.

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<v Speaker 2>As long as he doesn't run off to Vegas without us,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's okay. So Mango, I'm really excited to

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<v Speaker 2>continue this countdown because today we're talking about bike helmets,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about virtual dolphins, lobsters, and strangely a help

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<v Speaker 2>the diet that doesn't involve lobsters unfortunately. So let's get started.

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<v Speaker 1>With Okay, Well, so how about we kick this off

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<v Speaker 1>with a little pop quiz. What would you describe as

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a modern healthy diet? You know, obviously, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it involve a lot of fruits and veggies, good fats.

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<v Speaker 1>You hear about olive, oil, fish, nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe some eggs, beans, poultry for protein, red meat, and alcohol,

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<v Speaker 2>and moderation of course, and not too much candy, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a bummer. Like those atomic fireballs we've been sending out,

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<v Speaker 2>so just those in moderation as well. Those are the

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<v Speaker 2>things that come to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you just described the classic Mediterranean diet right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's how people in the blue zones eat right,

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<v Speaker 1>like people who live along time in places like Sardinia, Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>Italian Islands, Ikorea, and Greece, and people tend to eat

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<v Speaker 1>really healthy lives there. But what if I told you

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<v Speaker 1>there might be an even healthier diet and instead of

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<v Speaker 1>tomatoes and all oil, we should be eating cassava and

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<v Speaker 1>howler monkeys.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't see that went coming. I think you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to give me some pretty convincing evidence. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm up for this. I don't know what you

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<v Speaker 2>might call it, like the Temple of Doom diet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like it's a good derivative from the

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana Jones franchise. But let me tell you a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about it. So, over the past decade, there have

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<v Speaker 1>been a number of studies involving the Chimene people and

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<v Speaker 1>indigenous people native to the lowlands of the Bolivian Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Chimyne live off the land, far from modern conveniences,

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<v Speaker 1>and they basically have like little to no access to healthcare,

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<v Speaker 1>at least the kind you and I are familiar with,

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<v Speaker 1>and for some reason, they are freakishly healthy. Really, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you take heart disease right, Like here in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>about one in four people over the age of forty

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<v Speaker 1>five shows signs of a clogged heart. But the Chimene zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty seventeen, Lancet reported that quote, the Chimmyne have

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest prevalence of coronary atherosclerosis of any population known

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<v Speaker 1>to science.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that incredible? Yeah? So no heart problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they also don't get high blood pressure or type

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<v Speaker 1>two diabetes. They show little evidence of asthma or autoimmune diseases.

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<v Speaker 1>Even their brains appear to be special. Like as we

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<v Speaker 1>age are brains typically atrophy, but for some reason, the

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<v Speaker 1>brains of older chi Mayne people deteriorate at a rate

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<v Speaker 1>that's slower than seventy percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, so they just never get sick.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the weird thing. They do get sick

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot. They are outdoorsy. Their lifestyle exposes them

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<v Speaker 1>to like an insane bacterial load, viral and parasitic infections.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy percent of their population has parasitic roundworm infections, And

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<v Speaker 1>because they get sick so often, they show high levels

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<v Speaker 1>of inflammation. Now, the strange part is that for most

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<v Speaker 1>of us. Inflammation would increase our chance of heart disease

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<v Speaker 1>and other chronic ailments, but not for the chime Mayne.

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<v Speaker 1>Their good health is so puzzling that scientists actually gave

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<v Speaker 1>in a name, the Chimeyene inflammation paradox. Now, in recent years,

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<v Speaker 1>researchers have descended on the population to learn their secrets,

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<v Speaker 1>and so far the insights have gone against the grain

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<v Speaker 1>of what we know about healthy living. So take those

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<v Speaker 1>roundworm infections right, Like, on the face of it, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds pretty unhealthy, but researchers have actually discovered that this

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<v Speaker 1>particular roundworm alters the immune system in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>might actually improve female fertility.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, isn't crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>And most chimyne only got six or seven hours of sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's below the eight or nine hours that doctors

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<v Speaker 1>typically recommend. Here, right, it's accepted wisdom that inadequate sleep

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<v Speaker 1>can make you age faster, and yet tests that measure

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<v Speaker 1>aging was called intrinsic age acceleration, show that the chimene

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<v Speaker 1>age slower than just about everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>That is incredible. But back to the idea of the diet,

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<v Speaker 2>What does their diet have to do with any of this?

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<v Speaker 1>So Historically, obesity is rare among the Chimene, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they eat a lot more than we do. The typical

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<v Speaker 1>Chimeine women eat six hundred more calories than the average

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<v Speaker 1>American women in a given day. Okay, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>two big differences here, right, So, first of all, their

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<v Speaker 1>diet is composed completely differently than ours. They eat only

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<v Speaker 1>four to fifty grams of fat a day Americans eat

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<v Speaker 1>twice that. They also get more protein than we do,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as fifty grams more per day than the

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<v Speaker 1>average American, and they consume twice as much potassium, but

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<v Speaker 1>just one eighth the amount of sodium. The other difference

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<v Speaker 1>is activity level. The Chimyne actually average about sixteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>steps every single while, and they maintain this level of

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<v Speaker 1>physical activity late into their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Their Apple watches and garments must just be giving them

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<v Speaker 2>so many awards for all that activity. Right, So we've

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<v Speaker 2>got low fat, high protein tons of activity. Obviously, what

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of foods are they actually eating? Like, what's on

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<v Speaker 2>the menu for the average Chimmeyne home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so for starches and veggies, they tend to eat

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<v Speaker 1>like plantains, cassava, rice, and that's about it. Their primary

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<v Speaker 1>seafood is a fish called the trahira, also known as

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<v Speaker 1>the wolffish because of its dog like teeth. Then, for protein,

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<v Speaker 1>they eat a lineup of local mammals, including capabera the pecari,

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<v Speaker 1>which is basically a small wild pig. They also eat pakas,

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<v Speaker 1>which are these giant rodents with markings kind of like deer,

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<v Speaker 1>and cootamundi's, which well, it's kind of like a cross

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<v Speaker 1>between a lemur, a raccoon, and a small bear. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's about it. They don't eat that much else. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of their calories come from just nine different foods, which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty counterintuitive. Like here in the US, we're always

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<v Speaker 1>told we should be eating the rainbow of vegetables and

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<v Speaker 1>a wide variety of foods, but that's not what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's super interesting. I want to say that I'm sold

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<v Speaker 2>here because it does feel like they've figured out the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect diet. But I don't know how you can achieve

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<v Speaker 2>that here. It's not like you're able to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the store and pick up a coda mundi, which, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, i'd never heard of that before. You said

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<v Speaker 2>it's a cross between a lemur, a raccoon, and a

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<v Speaker 2>small bear looks like a small I got it. I

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<v Speaker 2>got it. But anyway, that sort of food isn't exactly

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<v Speaker 2>accessible here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're not finding out a barbecue. This dietary advice

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<v Speaker 1>isn't realistic for people like you and me, And lately

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<v Speaker 1>even the Chimene have been having a hard time following

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<v Speaker 1>this diet, and that's because modern life has started intruding

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<v Speaker 1>on their space, right on their villages. Kids are now

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<v Speaker 1>eating pasta there and processed foods and sugars. After generations

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<v Speaker 1>of this diet that's like helped them defy the odds,

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<v Speaker 1>their health's actually getting worse, it's kind of sad to see.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're gaining weight. So it's possible that the world's

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<v Speaker 1>healthiest diet might actually be on the verge of extinction.

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<v Speaker 2>That's rough. This has become a universal problem of trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pry the sugary snacks away from our kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so they don't ruin their appetites before they eat a

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<v Speaker 2>good dinner. It's just it's still different. Like here we're

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<v Speaker 2>eating chicken. There they're eating capybara, which I actually didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that was something people late.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So now if you don't want to eat a capybara.

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly don't blame you, but maybe you'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So for number eighteen, I gotta admit that

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<v Speaker 2>last story did make me a little bit hungry, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna stick with that theme. Here's a question for you, mego,

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<v Speaker 2>do you like lobster?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of like so so on it. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>like lobster rolls, but I don't love lobster meat that much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also not into working for my food other than

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<v Speaker 1>pistachios and bananas, maybe boiled peanuts. I don't really like

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<v Speaker 1>cracking foods open with my fingers and pulling chunks of

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<v Speaker 1>meat out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the bread. You put it that way. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>actually do like lobster, although it's not that I get

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<v Speaker 2>to have it that often. But anyone who's ever dined

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<v Speaker 2>on whole lobster nose it is not the easiest thing

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<v Speaker 2>to eat. So, like you said, you have to break

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<v Speaker 2>it apart with mallets and crackers and stick little forks

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<v Speaker 2>in there to retrieve every last little bit of meat.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't know what you're doing, it is

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<v Speaker 2>a daunting task.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really intimidating, especially for you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>a vegetarian for a large part of my life, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that's part of why I'm not as attracted.

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<v Speaker 2>To it right. Right, it's sort of intimidating, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you do know what you're doing, it's messy,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's one of the only foods that served with

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<v Speaker 2>a bib and wet wipes. But I've actually got a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty big solve for you here. This goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and six. A man named Johnny Hathaway was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about this problem. He's a Native manor and he

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<v Speaker 2>and his family had opened a seafood restaurant and a

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<v Speaker 2>touristy part of the state. So every summer the place

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<v Speaker 2>was flooded with people who craved lobster. But as he

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<v Speaker 2>told us in an interview, customers were turned off by

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<v Speaker 2>the mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I soon found out that people really wanted the food,

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<v Speaker 3>not the animal.

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<v Speaker 2>He thought there has to be an easier way to

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<v Speaker 2>cook and serve lobster. And it turned out there was

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<v Speaker 2>I've got three words for you, mango, high pressure processing,

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<v Speaker 2>you get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that you're saying these things expecting me to

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<v Speaker 1>have a reaction. I have no idea what any of

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<v Speaker 1>that means.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, in the simplest terms, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like pasteurization, except it uses cold water and pressure instead

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<v Speaker 2>of high heat. So the process is really useful because

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<v Speaker 2>it kills the pathogens and the microorganisms that can actually

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<v Speaker 2>make food spoil. Now, one day, Johnny happened to be

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<v Speaker 2>chatting with someone from the main lobster Promotion Council, is

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a collective for the state's prize industry, and

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<v Speaker 2>she told him she'd heard about some guy in New

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans who were using high pressure processing to kill bacteria

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<v Speaker 2>and oysters. That's a big problem, by the way, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people enjoy eating oysters raw, so having the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to eliminate that bacteria without cooking was a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>big deal. And it gets better. So the folks in

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<v Speaker 2>Louisiana were finding that putting oysters in a high pressure

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<v Speaker 2>machine didn't just make them safe to eat, it actually

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<v Speaker 2>also shucked them. That's pretty magical. Now, just completely detached

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<v Speaker 2>the meat from the shell. And what is lobster if

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<v Speaker 2>not a larger and more complicated oyster. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like some Breene biologists out there might disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with that. No simple assessment continues, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Facts, manu. So when Johnny heard this, he knew he

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<v Speaker 2>had to see this for himself. So he got in

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<v Speaker 2>touch with the oyster guys and they were like, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know anything about lobsters, but we're up for trying

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<v Speaker 2>an experiment. So here's Johnny again.

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<v Speaker 3>So I brought some lobster down in New Orleans and

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe what it did.

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<v Speaker 3>We put it in the machine, we take it out,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a very simple process. But what it does

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<v Speaker 3>is it breaks the membrane between the shell and the meat,

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<v Speaker 3>and it allows you to take out the meat raw.

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<v Speaker 3>The meat slides right out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just want to take a second to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>the historic nature of that moment, right like it was

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<v Speaker 2>the first time in human history that anyone had shucked

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<v Speaker 2>a raw lobster. It's just not possible otherwise. So until

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<v Speaker 2>that fateful day, the only way to break meat from

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<v Speaker 2>the membrane was by cooking it. So Johnny heads home.

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<v Speaker 2>He tracks down a high pressure processor online. He calls

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<v Speaker 2>it the big mother shucker because this thing is huge.

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<v Speaker 3>The first machine I bought was sixteen feet high and

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<v Speaker 3>weigh to eighty thousand pounds, and all it is is

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<v Speaker 3>a cylinder that should fill with water, no heat, no chemicals.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just water and you turn on the pressure and

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<v Speaker 3>find the right pressure. The cycle last maybe three minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>So once he had it up and running and got

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<v Speaker 2>the settings dialed in, Johnny and his employees were able

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<v Speaker 2>to process four to six million lobsters every single week.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know there were that many lobsters out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have to understand there's a lot of tradition

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<v Speaker 2>in the main lobster industry, and that's part of the

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<v Speaker 2>cultural importance here. But that also meant that Johnny had

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<v Speaker 2>to sell the idea of this pressure shucked raw lobsters

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<v Speaker 2>to people who'd been doing things the old way for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. You could see a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>might just take joy in that process, right, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like an art in itself. But luckily, his raw Lobster

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<v Speaker 2>Meet won two Awards at the two thousand and seven

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<v Speaker 2>Brussels International Seafood Show Best New Food Service Product, Most

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<v Speaker 2>Convenient New seafood Product. Now, that was a pretty definitive

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<v Speaker 2>seal of approval, and it helped Manor see the commercial

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<v Speaker 2>potential of what he was.

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<v Speaker 3>Up to Other processors and fishermen alike. They saw, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this opens up another way for us to market our product. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have to just sell live anymore. We can

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<v Speaker 3>sell it to processes, and processes can do more value

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<v Speaker 3>added products. It opened up new markets now.

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<v Speaker 2>According to Johnny Chef's love the convenience of raw lobster,

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<v Speaker 2>it gives them more options for cooking. Before, if you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted a suv lobster, it had to be parboiled first,

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<v Speaker 2>and as Johnny says, nobody buys a cook steak and

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<v Speaker 2>then cooks it again. But there's one other benefit to

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<v Speaker 2>this process that's worth mentioning.

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<v Speaker 3>The pressure actually kills the lobster within six seconds, So

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's pretty good when you think about the

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<v Speaker 3>animals in the world, how they're treated. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>was very important.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to eat lobster, that is a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>humane way to do it. Anyway, since Johnny's big new discovery,

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<v Speaker 2>a few other high pressure processors have actually opened up

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<v Speaker 2>in Maine, and Johnny's thinking about new ways to put

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<v Speaker 2>the technology to use. For example, he's working with the

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<v Speaker 2>University of Maine and research involving crab and lobster shells,

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<v Speaker 2>which contain a polymer called kitan. Now it's already being

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<v Speaker 2>used in agriculture as fertilizer, but apparently may have other

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<v Speaker 2>applications including helping with skin problems and wound healing. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you can separate a bunch of crustaceans from their

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<v Speaker 2>shells in a matter of minutes, it makes all the

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<v Speaker 2>testing and advances a whole lot more possible.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really interesting. You know, I wonder if it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to affect the all you can eat crab shats and

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<v Speaker 1>like Maryland, in places like that where you know you've

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<v Speaker 1>got all this old bay and you're often drinking beer

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<v Speaker 1>because like it takes such a long time and like

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to get the meat out. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a very different process area.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's gonna have it comes straight down a shoot

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<v Speaker 2>into your mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not touch that dial. We will be right back

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<v Speaker 1>with more great science ideas right after the break, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to Part Time Genius, where we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five greatest science ideas of the last twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 1>So this one is close to my heart. Will Were

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<v Speaker 1>you a bike rider as a kid?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely. I rode my bike every day to school from

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<v Speaker 2>really second grade on all the way yeah, all the

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<v Speaker 2>way through elementary school. I loved riding my bike.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you have to wear a helmet?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was actually talking about this just the other

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<v Speaker 2>day to somebody that this was on the front end

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<v Speaker 2>of kids wearing helmets, right, And of course my parents

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<v Speaker 2>maybe wear a helmet. I'm thankful for that, But I

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the few in our group of friends

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<v Speaker 2>that would ride to school that were wearing helmets. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that there's no weirdness around that today, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was one of the few wearing them at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I feel like it is so normalized

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<v Speaker 1>today and the helmets are so much less clunky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>In seventh grade, with no warning, my dad went out

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<v Speaker 1>and did two things. First, he bought us helmets and

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<v Speaker 1>insisted we wear them, which you know makes sense, And

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<v Speaker 1>i'd of course two with my kids now. But he

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<v Speaker 1>also found these white poles that he put on our

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<v Speaker 1>like very thin bubbles they put on with orange flags,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they were riding above us. It was partially

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<v Speaker 1>because like we lived on a hill and so like

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<v Speaker 1>if you went up the hill, you want cars to

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<v Speaker 1>be able.

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<v Speaker 2>To see what was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was kind of the equivalent of wearing headgear

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<v Speaker 1>to like a middle school dance, right, So like I

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<v Speaker 1>used to bike everywhere to the local convenience store to

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<v Speaker 1>like cull to sack, you know, it was just transportation

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<v Speaker 1>for us, and and then immediately I started walking. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>helmets were really a deterrent. And one thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>think is really fascinating is there's a company called Holding

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<v Speaker 1>which has created something that's basically a scarf like technology

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<v Speaker 1>that inflates on impact like an airbag.

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<v Speaker 2>So is this like an invisible airbag helmet or like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not picturing.

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<v Speaker 1>This, yeah, exactly. This thing is amazing and middle school

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<v Speaker 1>me would have been so psychedic seen one of these

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<v Speaker 1>or had one of these. But I've been watching videos

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<v Speaker 1>online of people crashing and one second it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>they're wearing nothing on their head and next it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like someone like pulled over like an airbag hoodie. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing is the invention of two brilliant Swedish women

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<v Speaker 1>named Anna Hoppt and Teres Alston. They designed the helmet

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and five as part of a master's

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<v Speaker 1>thesis in industrial design at Lund University, and they tricked

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<v Speaker 1>it out with some really interesting features. You do have

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the helmet charge and you have to switch

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<v Speaker 1>it on when you're riding, but you can change out

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<v Speaker 1>the colors so like you can have the scarf like

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<v Speaker 1>thing match your outfit. It comes with a black box

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<v Speaker 1>and it records the last ten seconds before a crash,

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<v Speaker 1>which can actually be helpful if you're trying to determine

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<v Speaker 1>fall in like an accident or something like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>according to tests done by engineers at Stanford, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing actually protected people from concussions eight times better than

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<v Speaker 1>traditional bike helmets. Unfortunately, however, the cost ended up being

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<v Speaker 1>a factor. In a twenty fifteen review from the Guardian,

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<v Speaker 1>they said a new helmet cost about two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty pounds and if you get in a crash you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have to replace it. Pulving did replace the

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<v Speaker 1>helmets for about one hundred pounds once you bought your

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<v Speaker 1>first one, but it really wasn't cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that this goes back over a decade now,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm curious, like, can I get a hold of

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<v Speaker 2>a whole thing now?

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<v Speaker 1>Not easily. So the founders left the company in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and the company went bankrupt in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>But what Anna Andrees did actually opened people up to

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<v Speaker 1>new ways of thinking about bike helmets. There's an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>company out of Germany called in Flabby that actually has

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<v Speaker 1>an ultra thin geometric helmet. You fill it with a

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<v Speaker 1>bike pump and it fills these air pockets to protect

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<v Speaker 1>your head. And the best part is you can actually

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<v Speaker 1>fold it up and scrunch it up, so you're not

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<v Speaker 1>carrying this clunky helmet around. It just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>sticks in a bag or a pocket. That said, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to improve on the

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<v Speaker 1>last released version of the whole thing and then comes

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<v Speaker 1>out with a better inflatable helmet. Also, just for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make clear that I do wear a

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<v Speaker 1>helmet these days. I'm little less worried about what kids

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<v Speaker 1>in my neighborhood think about me. But I do wear

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<v Speaker 1>when I bike around New York on city bikes with

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<v Speaker 1>my family, so you really don't have to worry.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll check that one off the list, all right. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's safe to say that VR hasn't quite

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<v Speaker 2>taken off in the way we might have expected it to,

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<v Speaker 2>at least not yet. But one use of it that's

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting is in pain management, so more specifically having

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<v Speaker 2>patients virtually swim with dolphins that's actually helped patients manage

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<v Speaker 2>their chronic pain better. Have you heard about this, No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's incredible. According to a piece on the radio station, Wabe,

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<v Speaker 2>a seventy year old military vet, told reporters, it's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I really feel like I'm there. I get a strong

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of pleasure, relaxation and peace. Just nice to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically he swims three times a day for ten

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<v Speaker 2>minutes secession and it's had a remarkable effect on his

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<v Speaker 2>ability to manage his pain.

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<v Speaker 1>That is really cool and it's really that effective.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently so. And the truth is, doctors like Brennan Spiegel

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<v Speaker 2>at Cedar Sinai in Los Angeles. They've been looking for

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<v Speaker 2>alternative ways to help patients manage their pain and reduce

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<v Speaker 2>their reliance on heavy prescription pills for a long time now,

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<v Speaker 2>and VR actually seems to have an impact, at least

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<v Speaker 2>according to the paper he published in the journal plus

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<v Speaker 2>one Now. In his study, Spiegel took patients who were

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<v Speaker 2>either experiencing pain from cancer or maybe had severe orthopedic pain,

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<v Speaker 2>and he divided these patients into two different groups. So

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<v Speaker 2>one group got VR headsets and was told they could

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<v Speaker 2>use as much VR as they wanted, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>asked to do it at least three times a day

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<v Speaker 2>for ten minutes a session. Meanwhile, the other group got

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<v Speaker 2>to watch a wellness channel on TV. So, as Spiegel

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<v Speaker 2>put it, VR is thought to create an immersive distraction

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<v Speaker 2>that restricts the brain from processing pain. And what they

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<v Speaker 2>found was that when they used a zero to ten

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<v Speaker 2>pain scale, the group that used VR three times a

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<v Speaker 2>day actually saw a drop in their pain levels by

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<v Speaker 2>two full points. That is pretty remarkable, and I'd actually

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<v Speaker 2>heard of VR being used for immersion therapy, like people

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<v Speaker 2>have a tough time with heights, having the VR stimulate

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<v Speaker 2>like you're looking out of a tall building or people

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<v Speaker 2>who are afraid of public speaking. You get to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to a virtual crowd and build up a stamina or

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<v Speaker 2>muscle skill. But the idea of swimming with dolphins is

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<v Speaker 2>just so beautiful. It's so different from like facing your fears. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it really is. And scientists are looking for how VR

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<v Speaker 2>might be useful in other painful conditions, you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>managing labor pains to distracting patients when they get painful

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<v Speaker 2>infusions for cancer treatments. It's pretty remarkable what can happen here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's a quick one that gives me a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of empathy for that character. Pig Pen in PNUS.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the one with the dirty cloud around it all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I love pig Pen, But it turns out he is

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<v Speaker 1>not alone. Apparently, we all have a swarm of bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>that we're constantly shedding in the space around us. It's

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<v Speaker 1>known as a microbial cloud, and according to a team

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<v Speaker 1>of scientists at the University of Oregon, everyone is surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by a unique cloud. It's about ninety centimeters wide, made

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<v Speaker 1>up of millions of bacteria, and when we walk through

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<v Speaker 1>each other's clouds, our clouds mingle and we actually change

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<v Speaker 1>each other's microbiomes just.

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<v Speaker 2>A little wow.

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<v Speaker 1>The way a BBC article put it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>grosser than that. They're right, quote walk through someone else's

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<v Speaker 1>cloud and it'll rain bacteria on your skin and be

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<v Speaker 1>breathed into your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Saw that is really gross. And I think the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that stuck out to me is ninety centimeters. Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>not tiny, you know, like that's actually a meaningful But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a really gross description.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the article quotes one microbiologist as saying the

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<v Speaker 1>findings were quote simply gross. Microbiologists are disturbed. It's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>gress Yeah, but I think it's just one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things that you live with forever, you don't really think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and then when you happen to like peer

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<v Speaker 1>under a microscope, it's more complicated than you can ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm guessing a shower doesn't help the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you cannot scrub this away. But the way the

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>scientists rand the experiment was pretty fascinating. So they basically

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<v Speaker 1>had people hang out in a room where petri dishes

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<v Speaker 1>and suspended air filters inside the room collected the floating microbes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they analyze these personal clouds, and what they

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<v Speaker 1>found was that every cloud is really like a fingerprint.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, I do think there's something poetic about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that, like, when you hang out in someone else's cloud,

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<v Speaker 1>you take back a bacterial souvenir. Like there's almost this

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<v Speaker 1>record of your life and how you spent your time

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<v Speaker 1>that you're constantly carrying around with you, and the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you're changed a little by everyone you meet or

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<v Speaker 1>interact with. It's just kind of human and wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, listeners, we've got to pause for a quick break,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll be back with more Part Time Genius very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back to Part Time Genius, where we're continuing

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<v Speaker 1>with our crazy countdown.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, semengo, what would you say if I told

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<v Speaker 2>you I could fix the cracks in your phone screen

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<v Speaker 2>just by covering it with a damp paper towel.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'd probably think you were lying or it

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<v Speaker 1>was a prank.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, it's actually an innovation that is just around

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<v Speaker 2>the corner. Once this new quote self healing glass hits

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<v Speaker 2>the market, we really will be able to repair cracks

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<v Speaker 2>by just adding water.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. So how exactly does this work? Because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>correct me if I'm wrong, But like glass needs heat

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<v Speaker 1>to repair, not moisture.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, that's definitely true of traditional glass. But what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about is something called peptide glass. And in

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.360
<v Speaker 2>case your chemistry is a little rusty, here it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it would be. A peptide in short, is

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<v Speaker 2>a chain of amino acids, which are chemical building blocks

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 2>of proteins. So peptides can self assemble into all kinds

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 2>of useful structures, including endorphins and insulin. But because they're

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 2>crystalline in nature, they aren't typically associated with glass because

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 2>glass isn't crystalline, right, And in crystalline structures, the atoms

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 2>are arranged in a rigid repeating pattern, so when the

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 2>crystal is subjected to stress, it tends to fracture really easily. Glass,

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, is what's known as an amorphous solid.

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<v Speaker 2>That means its atoms are arranged at random, which allows

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 2>it to absorb stress more evenly, making it harder to

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<v Speaker 2>actually break.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how they are like different types of solids,

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<v Speaker 1>different types of liquids. Ketchup is a certain type of

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>liquid that doesn't move or flow right right, And then

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<v Speaker 1>you have this type of glass. But how is there

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<v Speaker 1>something called peptide glass. It seems like a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a contradiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it is exactly that, and that's why researchers at

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<v Speaker 2>Tel Aviv University were so surprised. Last year. They found

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<v Speaker 2>when a certain peptide is mixed with water, it can

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<v Speaker 2>self assemble into this rigid, transparent glass like material. Now

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<v Speaker 2>this wasn't something that they set out to find either,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's always the fun in science of these acts

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 2>of discoveries. But in fact, they were actually studying entirely

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 2>different properties of peptides when they made this discovery. But

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't even the best part, because it turned out

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<v Speaker 2>this new kind of glass also had the ability to

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<v Speaker 2>heal itself when it was remoistened.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So according to one of the studies authors quote, we

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<v Speaker 2>found that although the peptide glass cracks under dry conditions,

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<v Speaker 2>it can easily repair these cracks. All that needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be done is transfer the glass to a more humid environment.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as you do that, water molecules re enter

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<v Speaker 2>the material, repair the cracks and allow the glass to reform.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so amazing, And I know you said this

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<v Speaker 1>was just discovered. But what are the commercial prospects or

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<v Speaker 1>something like this? Does it seem like a viable product?

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<v Speaker 2>It definitely does so far. So. Conventional glass requires a

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 2>ton of energy to produce because you have to gather

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<v Speaker 2>all the different raw materials and you melt them together

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 2>at extremely high temperatures. But with this, you actually just

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<v Speaker 2>take some peptide powder, mix it with water, and voila

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's instant glass. It's pretty amazing. It's as strong

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<v Speaker 2>as silicate glas two. So it could be used to

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<v Speaker 2>make just about anything windows, doors, optical lenses, and of

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 2>course the thing we're all thinking about phone screens.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it really does sound like it could revolutionize

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<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of different industries and also save you

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<v Speaker 1>so much money on repairs. Imagine like getting a crack

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<v Speaker 1>in your windshield and just like waiting for the rain

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<v Speaker 1>to repair it. Yeah, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you wouldn't necessarily have to replace your existing

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>glass either. You could just add a thin coating of

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 2>peptide glass over the top to sort of act as

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<v Speaker 2>a barrier.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who's going to really benefit from this as

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<v Speaker 1>anyone with a class bottom boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, those are the people that we really want to

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<v Speaker 2>look out for. You know, it's like how people say

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<v Speaker 2>we should make an entire plane out of the same

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>material as the black Box, Like just make the whole

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>boat out of peptide glass and it can never spring

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<v Speaker 2>a leak.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just came up with the best science

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<v Speaker 1>idea of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Nailed it all right, Well, that does it for today.

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<v Speaker 2>Be sure to tune in tomorrow as the countdown continues.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to give too much away, but tomorrow's

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<v Speaker 2>episode involves NASCAR dinosaurs. It sounds like, really this is

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<v Speaker 2>a tough guy episode and a very special musical number.

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