1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Can't find AM six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: Louke Penrose in for John Cobelt today. John will be 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: back tomorrow. Well, it's become a caricature of itself, right, 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: parents arguing with other parents at their kids sporting events, 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: arguing in the stands. It's been lampooned on Saturday Saturday 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: Night Live now. But over the weekend in Mace, Arizona, 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: seventy police officers had to respond and a tournament was canceled. 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: The kids started arguing and then the parents got in 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: on the action and there was a one hundred person 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: brawl forty five minutes to clear the field. It took 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: the cops and they're saying it comes to the time 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: right now where youth sports is having a really hard 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: time finding officials to referee the games. Unbelievable. ABC News 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: correspondent Alex Stone has all the details. It's amazing that 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: this still goes on because it's so mocked in pop culture. 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: I recall a Sopranos episode, right, and that was the 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: joke that Jennie Soprano went out there and got into 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: an argument with another soccer mom. Oh, so like we 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: goof on it in society, but people still do it 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: on Saturday and Sunday afternoon, Louis. If you've been to 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: a youth a sporting event, whether it be baseball or 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: softball or flag football, I mean, it goes on all 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: the time where you're and yeah, probably a lot of 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: those of us who were parents of kids who are 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: at that age that every now and then you'll catch 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: yourself making a comment to the ref or to the 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: yump and thinking, WHOA, I shouldn't have said that, and 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: then others next to you will make over the. 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: Line comments and you're thinking, wow, this is how it begins. 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: This is how we're gonna get going on this. Yeah, 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: a lot of the leagues now that if if you 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: are a parent and you make an inappropriate comment toward 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: the ref. I was at a soccer a kid's soccer 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: tournament this weekend and the parents got warned because they 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: were yelling things at the ref, and that then the 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: coaches will get ejected or the kids will get ejected 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: for what the parents are saying. To try to convince 39 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: the parents to mind their peace and cues and to 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: not say anything inappropriate So yesterday there was this big 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,559 Speaker 1: football tournament in Mace, just outside Phoenix, and police say, 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, though, a few of the kids began 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: fighting and then the parents jumped in the stands emptied out, 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: the sidelines emptied out turned into an all out brawl. 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Listened to the police dispatch from broadcastify as they were 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: a dispatching units. 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: Involving about one hundred and fifty people. 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: About one hundred and fifty people. They're going that way. 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: Police were heading in and they got word it was 50 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: getting big. 51 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 3: I guess it's a really lark issue going on right now. 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: Someone was pepper spray. 53 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: The pepper spray was being used and so those seventy 54 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: police officers, through mutual aid all around the area and 55 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: the county, they all went in and it did take 56 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: about forty five minutes for them to get everything under control, 57 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: and they canceled all the remaining games. The tournament was 58 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: over at that point that they said we are done 59 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: with this and they sent everybody away. There was flag 60 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: football going on and then soccer next to it, and 61 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: it just all got involved in this. And there were 62 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: off duty cops who were there who called in to say, hey, 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna need a lot of units over here. 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: This is going to be a problem. 65 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: This teenager talk to our affiliate ABC fifteen in Phoenix 66 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: describing what went on. 67 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: You see police coming from the entrance, going down by 68 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: at least twenty cock cars on the fields, and then 69 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: we try to leave because they made everyone leave, like 70 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: cancel the tournament, and there's probably thirty cock cars in 71 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: a line, and it's just crazy and it's hard to 72 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: get out. 73 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: It's took like ten to fifteen minutes just to get 74 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: out of there. 75 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: And nobody was reported to him and injured, nobody was arrested. 76 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: Police say they just wanted everybody to get out of there, 77 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: to break it up, and they didn't know who started 78 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: anything of They was just get out of here and 79 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: everybody go back to your hotels, go back home who 80 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: were in town for the tournament. But it does, as 81 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: you mentioned, highlight this one big issue that did the 82 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: league say that they have the people don't want to 83 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: officiate youth sports any longer because you know, whether you 84 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: be an adult doing it in your free time, or 85 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: you know a fifteen sixteen year old who's going to 86 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: be a ref. They got to deal with all these 87 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 1: parents that will yell things at you. I mean, I've 88 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: heard when I've been at games people yelling yell sexual 89 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: type comments to to refs and other things. And they 90 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: got to deal with it. And if not that, then 91 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: something like this happens. And you know, organizers again to 92 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: its ABC fifteen. They're in Phoenix and they say that 93 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: they're finding it in Arizona really tough to convince young 94 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: men and women that it's worth doing it anymore. 95 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 5: For younger people to you know, raise their hand and say, well, 96 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 5: it used to be kind of a nice little summer 97 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 5: job for some somebody to learn how to officiate and 98 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 5: make some money. It's just not worth it, you know, 99 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 5: to to somebody to go out there and be be rated, 100 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 5: you know for a missed call on the field. You 101 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 5: can't pay anybody enough to enter that field. And so 102 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 5: that has caused you know, quite a shortage. 103 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they sit, they're having a tough time. But 104 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: the cops who flooded in, they gained control of it. 105 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: The stands emptied out. Police say it was a lot 106 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: of parents going after each other and it turned into 107 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: you know, actual physical combat going on, but a real mess. 108 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: But one hundred and one hundred and fifty people all 109 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: got involved and no, so no, yeah, I mean I 110 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: think sometimes it's like when we've had you know, out 111 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: of control protests and Steph in LA where we wake 112 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: up the next morning, go nobody was arrested, and that 113 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: sometimes it's just get everybody out of there, gain control, 114 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: and yeah, as long as nobody goes chipping back at 115 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: the cops that they just want everybody to get out 116 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: of there and and and get them to leave. 117 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: I have been I have three boys, my youngest is 118 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: in flag football. In fact, I was at a game 119 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: on Saturday, and there was there was certainly a mom 120 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: that was getting annoyed at the ref for not making 121 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: the call the way she saw it, and I excuse you, 122 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: and I could tell she was starting to get irritated, 123 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: but I was it's that, you know, you see it 124 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: building and you wonder, all right, is this going to 125 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: dissipate or is this going to escalate? 126 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: And at what point does the ref turn around and 127 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, and make a ruling of some kind. 128 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: At one point, one of the refs just kind of, 129 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 2: you know, for a second, got the attention of both sides, 130 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: everybody on both sides, and say, look, these we're making 131 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: these calls. These calls are final and out up for 132 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: discuss and if you don't like them, you know, then 133 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: then you're welcome to leave. But we got it. There 134 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: was a stern warning given because yeah, there's a lot 135 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: of passion and parents start to get very annoyed when 136 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: they see bad calls and things like that. But everybody's 137 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: filming everything. I mean, everybody's cell phone is on at 138 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: all times. I'd have to imagine if there were any 139 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: assaults or any any any damage, or anybody got hurt, 140 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: it's it's on videos. 141 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, then it would be on video and police 142 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: and county prosecutors could go after them in that case. Yeah, 143 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: to your your previous point about the comments being made 144 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: though that it's some and the refs have a different tolerance. 145 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: You know, there are some. 146 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: Now that that if you go, oh, come on, that 147 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: is it, you know, then it's the coach is gone 148 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: because a parent made a comment like that. In others 149 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: will allow it to go on a little bit longer. 150 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: But you never know quite where that line is. And 151 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: and so you know, if you don't want your kid 152 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: to get tossed, you don't want the coach the manager 153 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: to get tossed. You just kind of you gotta let 154 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: it go. 155 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: Alex Stone, ABC News, thank you so much for coming on. 156 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: What a story. Yeah, Happy New Year. All right, when 157 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: we come back, I got a little more on this 158 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: because there is now a real problem with getting referees 159 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: and officiants. And it's not just the parents, it's the 160 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: video itself because there is so much video, the fact 161 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: that every single person on the planet now is effectively 162 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: a video journalist, and the Internet, whether it's YouTube, Instagram, 163 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: Facebook Live right, that is the broadcast channel that's available 164 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: to the whole world. People don't want to make bad 165 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: calls and people don't want their their their fumble broadcasted live. 166 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: We'll talk about it coming up next on The John 167 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: coblt Show. Luke Penrose a for John Cobelt on KFI 168 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 169 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 170 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 6: six forty. 171 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: Louke Penrose and for John Belt on the John coblt Show. 172 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: So the question about this melee really is why is 173 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: this so important? Like we have reached a point now 174 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: where winning the game, winning the tournament in club is 175 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: so important that parents lose their mind when there's a 176 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: bad call. There's bad calls in the NFL every Sunday, 177 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: and they have instant replay and trained efficients. So we're 178 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: talking about kids, right playing in a tournament. I get it, 179 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: you want to win, but at some point it's just 180 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: a game. I mean, these are children, and sportsmanship is 181 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: really what is being taught there, not the game itself only. 182 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: And I've seen this now grow. My son is a 183 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: really good flag football player and he's twelve, he's in 184 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: sixth grade, and he's been playing since before he was 185 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: allowed to play and uh before the you know, he 186 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: was playing before he was able to enroll in some 187 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: of the tournaments. And he's been asked to play on 188 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: other teams and he loves it and lives it and 189 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: we support him and it's great. And then this past season, 190 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 2: my wife he's not only playing for his school and 191 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: playing for a league, but he's also playing in club. 192 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: And my wife just enrolled him because she said, well, 193 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: he loves it and it's just one more thing and 194 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: has different skills. And now I find us going like 195 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: hours out of the way for these games. I'm one 196 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: of those people that I used to laugh at, Like 197 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: I had friends that lived in my neighborhood and you know, 198 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 2: we there's a community pool where I live, and they 199 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: had kids around our ages too. So if I was 200 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: going to take the kids up to the pool on 201 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: a Saturday and go, I would text him be like, Hey, 202 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: we're all, uh, we're all gonna be up at the 203 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: swimming pool, bring the kids up. We'll all hanging out. 204 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: And oh we can't. Right, well, we're in you know, 205 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: far away Oxnard or something for softball. What are you 206 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: driving all the way there for? There isn't a league 207 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: And they're like in this traveling league. And I have 208 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: a really good friend and her daughter plays club soccer, 209 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: girls soccer, and they're like all over God's Green Earth 210 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: in southern California. Every Saturday. They're down an ocean side. 211 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: They're doubt and u Kaipa. They're like they're never like 212 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: around where they live. They're always far, far, far away, 213 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: and sometimes they have to go. In this case Mason, Arizona, 214 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: this was a tournament. People were in hotels. They were 215 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: like from other areas to other states. And I think 216 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: that's crazy, Like I think we're taking it too far, 217 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: and I think the intensity is causing people's anxiety to 218 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: place onto the game far more importance than it is. Like, 219 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: if you flew into another state for a kid's flag 220 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: football game and stayed at a hotel, why are you 221 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: surprised that everybody else on that field are so ratcheted 222 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: up with intensity that they fight might break out among 223 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 2: the parents? Like it actually is quite reasonable. So I'm 224 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: trying to downshift a little bit, at least in my 225 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: house and in my family, Like, can't we just do 226 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: the flag football games that the school runs. He's already 227 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: at the school, and then if there's another thing that 228 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: goes on, maybe we can do that too. But I 229 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: talked to other parents, and there are parents who literally 230 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: keep their kids back a year because they don't think 231 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: that they are tall enough or they are strong enough, 232 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: and they do do over years for the sole purpose 233 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: of athletic ability. And now there are schools that have 234 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: popped up that effectively enabled this, Like there are schools 235 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: I visited one where they that's their whole purpose is 236 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: to basically reduce seventh grade redo eighth grade, so by 237 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: the time that your kid goes into high school, there'll 238 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: be a year older, so they will hopefully be taller, bigger, stronger, faster, 239 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: whatever it is to give them an advantage. So you 240 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: have freshmen entering high school a year like the age 241 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: of sophomores. And I saw this. My oldest was on 242 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: the football team. Uh and he was big anyway, so 243 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: it was a good fit. But I say he's not 244 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: on it anymore because he said that it's ridiculous, like 245 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: they're they're freshmen driving cars because they're just so much older. 246 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: And their parents kept them back so that they would 247 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: be on the football team so that they'd be stars 248 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: on the football team. And I just think that's crazy. 249 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: I think that's absolutely crazy. But there is such an 250 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: intensity to get an advantage, and it all feeds into 251 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: the same thing. It's so they can get us an 252 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: athletic scholarship, so that they can be a CIF finalist. 253 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: It's all driven to effectively make the child a better 254 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: candidate for a university. And it is so driven, and 255 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: I think it's crazy. I don't speak up a lot 256 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: because I'm always in the minority of opinion and I 257 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: don't want the other parents to think that. I don't 258 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 2: want to give my sons the best opportunity to get 259 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: into college. But to like man your factor success like 260 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: that by holding your kid back, so to pretend that 261 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: he's an eighth grader when he's really a ninth grader, 262 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: or a ninth grader when he's really a tenth grader, right, 263 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: like to manufacture it in such a way. Or to 264 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: let's spend your entire life driving all over southern California 265 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: every Saturday for some soccer games so that there's a 266 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: better chance of your daughter getting an athletics scholarship. I 267 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: think that pushes it too much. I think it's too intense, 268 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 2: it's unnecessary. 269 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 5: I have. 270 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: Two sons in high school and one in middle school, 271 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: and my oldest now is doing his college application process. Now, 272 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: I went to college, so did my wife, so I 273 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: know what to expect. And I can't imagine it's changed 274 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: a whole lot different than it was for me. It 275 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: is totally changed. They told my son that he needs 276 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: to have a minimum of eight up to fifteen applications. 277 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: I remember just the other day he was telling me, 278 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: what are you crazy, You're not going to apply to 279 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: fifteen colleges? Why the rule of thumb was five one safety, 280 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: one reach, and three colleges that you can see yourself 281 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: spending four years there. Wow, those days are over. It's 282 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: a minimum of eight otherwise you're not a serious Candidate's 283 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: that's that's what we're being told. Fifteen fifteen applications. Some 284 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: people are submitting like, there's no chance we'll visit fifteen 285 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: university campuses in time. But it's all part of that 286 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: same pattern of you know, you got to get in 287 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: a club sport, gotta win a tournament, gotta drive to Mace, Arizona, 288 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: Gotta make sure there's not a bad ref. If the 289 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: ref is not making the calls right, make sure you 290 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: get let the ref know that all the parents are watching. 291 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: This is really important. It's so intense to get ready 292 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: to get successful. Unbelievable. Lou Penrose in for John Coblt 293 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: on kf I AM six forty Live everywhere on the 294 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 295 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 296 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 6: six forty. 297 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on The John Cobelt Show. 298 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: It was a story out of Arizona where club sport 299 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: tournament flag football. The police officers had to respond one 300 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: hundred people parents and players were involved in a big brawl, 301 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: took forty five minutes to clear the field, and all 302 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: the remaining games were canceled. So we're talking about this 303 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: whole traveling sports club, sport, trying to get a sports scholarship, 304 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: all this pressure on these young people to be in 305 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: all these sports so they can get into a better college, 306 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: and the level of intensity that is associated with it 307 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: leads to this kind of thing. 308 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 7: Hey, Lou, it's Tina down in Orange County. 309 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 8: Love you filling in for John. Hey. All I can 310 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 8: say is don't do it. 311 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 7: Don't do it. 312 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 8: Don't cave to the pressure of the parents who think 313 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 8: that their kids are going to go on to be 314 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 8: famous superstars. It's not worth it. I traveled to Indianapolis, 315 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 8: to Georgia, everywhere with my kid, and I look back 316 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 8: and think, why just enjoy it, have a good one. 317 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. No, I'm not doing it Indianapolis, 318 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I mean I had. I had to 319 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: go to Coasta Mesa a couple of saturdays ago, and 320 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: I thought that was far. Why are we driving here. 321 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: We're passing all these football fields. Why don't we play 322 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: with the kids that are in our school district. Now 323 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: this is club. It's different. Lou Oh, but I don't 324 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: know these people. It's just it's it's so intense, it's 325 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 2: so crazy. Now, look, there are a lot of parents 326 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: that do it. I'm not gonna argue with you. But 327 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: it's not because they think their kid is going to 328 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: be Serena Williams. H No, it's it's usually because they 329 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: are trying to make the college application look good. I 330 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: hear this all the time, and I'm gonna get in 331 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: trouble for saying it, but it's the truth. So I'm 332 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: just gonna say it. I don't agree with the whole 333 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: AP class. The AP classes are the biggest joke going 334 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: like that. It's APT, absolutely unnecessary. Nobody needs to be 335 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: in an advanced placement class in high school. And I 336 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 2: say this. I took AP government. I think I got 337 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: a three. I didn't do very well, and I went 338 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: on to get a degree in political science. So it 339 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: was ridiculous. Like the whole cell of the whole AP 340 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: thing was it was college level curriculum at the high school. 341 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: And you can get college credit if you get a 342 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: three or four or five on the AP exam and 343 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: you know it's gonna look great on your college application. 344 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: You got an AP class on there, right, means you're 345 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: really smart, really committed, really discipline to be able to 346 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: handle college level work in the eleventh grade. Oh boy, 347 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: look at you. Right, that's what the cell was. It's 348 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: a complete waste of time. It means nothing to college 349 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 2: is zero. If you think you won't have to take 350 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: like the freshman calculus because you took AP, you are wrong. 351 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: You know, real college is going to give you any 352 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: credit for an AP nor are they going to accept 353 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: as a prerequisite something that was taught at the high 354 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: school level by some high school teacher. So as far 355 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: as academics go, it's ridict that's number one. Number two, 356 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: what are you doing? Why are you taking these AP classes? 357 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: Are you you're that deeply enthralled by biology that your 358 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: high school level biology is just not enough for your 359 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: stimulation and you really need to know AP bio? Right? 360 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 2: Is that the reason you're just because you could just 361 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: learn more on your own. You don't have to take 362 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: the class. I know, while you're taking it, you're taking 363 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: it because it's gonna make colleges look It's gonna make 364 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: me look better to colleges. That's what they always say. 365 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: I listened to my oldest and his friend's talk and 366 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: like he's doing it. He's taking an AP English. I'm like, 367 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: what are you taking? What are you killing yourself taking 368 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: AP English? You're up there doing homework and you're always 369 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 2: stressing out about your AP English exam? Drop it? Why 370 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 2: are you killing yourself? You're in high school. Have fun. Oh, 371 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: I gotta look good to colleges. Don't try and look 372 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: good to colleges. Just be good. Just be good at 373 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: what you're doing, all right. Honors English is not enough. 374 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 2: That's the other thing. I don't even understand why people 375 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: take honors classes in high school. What are you killing 376 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: yourself for? You're gonna get into college. There are colleges 377 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: all over the place. You'll be fine, Like, enjoy your 378 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: life as a high school student and the enjoy your 379 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: life as a college student and then go make money. 380 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm a high school teacher. And it's amazing the 381 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 7: amount of parents who let their kids slip and slide 382 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 7: because they think they're gonna be the next professional superstar 383 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 7: and they they're not gonna be even close. 384 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call no, obviously, even athletes, I mean, 385 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: very very good athletes are a very slim chance that 386 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: they will be professional athletes. And then there's injury. I 387 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: mean a lot of things are gonna happen. So enjoy 388 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: playing flag football. Don't feel the need to join a 389 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: league that you have to drive to Mesa, Arizona, like, 390 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: just enjoy playing locally. Enjoy being in high school. I 391 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: was a guest lecturer because I took AP government and 392 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: I went on to a career in Congress. I was 393 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: a devty chief of staff with three members of Congress 394 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: here in California for fifteen years. So when they said 395 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: would you like to come and be a guest lecturer 396 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: for this high school AP class, I thought, yeah, I'd 397 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: be a good candidate. And first question, how many of 398 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: you want to go into government or politics? Like one 399 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: hand went up. There's a classroom of like twenty three kids. 400 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: I'm like for the rest of you, why are you 401 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: an AP government if you don't want to be in government? 402 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 2: Number one answer? I want it on my college application. 403 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 2: Like this is hard. Why are you killing yourself if 404 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: you want to be a doctor. Why are you an 405 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: AP government if you want to be If you want 406 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: to be a businessman, an entrepreneur. You have an mbaight, 407 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: why are you an AP government? Why are you taking 408 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: AP anything other than what you want to do? They 409 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: always say the same thing, because I want to look 410 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: good at colleges. Unbelievable. 411 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 3: There's a more opportunity to get scholarships for grades than 412 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 3: there are for athletic scholarships. So people should be spending 413 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 3: just more time on working on academics than they should 414 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 3: be on their children and their sports. 415 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: Just saying I appreciate the call, I think they should 416 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: be spending less time on all those things and more 417 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: time just living and relating to other people. There's nothing 418 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: wrong with academics and nothing wrong with athletics. They're both great. 419 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: Don't kill yourself. If you enjoy it, then go for it. 420 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: If you love to read, read all day. If you 421 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: love AP literature, then do it. Get a five on 422 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: the AP exam. Enjoy yourself, but don't do it. I 423 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 2: had a philosophy professor once that said this about college students, 424 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: and he was right, and I understand what he meant now. 425 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: He said, too many Americans spend four years in college 426 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: getting ready to get happy. Don't get ready to be 427 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: like that's and if you went to a college like 428 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 2: I did, that really just had a real chip on 429 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 2: his shoulder. Public Ivy and everybody there was like, no, 430 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: I'm killing myself now, but it's gonna be worth it 431 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: because once I graduate, boy, I'm really going to be happy. 432 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: And he was amazed at that attitude that people are 433 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: spending four years getting ready to get happy. So don't 434 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: spend four years of high school getting ready to get 435 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: into a good college. You're wasting four years of your 436 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: life when you should just be enjoying yourself. Loup Penrose. 437 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: If John Cobelt on The John Cobelt Show. 438 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI. 439 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: Lou Penrose Info. John Cobelt on The John Cobelt Show 440 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: coming up. Following the news at three, here we are again. 441 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 2: Congress is now looking again to make daylight saving time permanent. 442 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: Two bills passed out of the House of Representatives that 443 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 2: now goes to the Senate. Here in California, we have 444 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: set up the ability to stop switching the clocks. We remember, 445 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: we did that by plebisite. We did it in a proposition, 446 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 2: So now Congress has to do it. And then California 447 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: will accept it. But now they're arguing about daylight Saving 448 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 2: time versus Standard time. And I am convinced that we 449 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: are at a point in this country where we are 450 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: so divided and insist on being divided on things that 451 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: are like easily agreeable, that people just want to be 452 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 2: divided on issues that have anything to do with politics 453 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: or government or Trump or Congress, that they will just 454 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: dig in their heels even if it's an easy solution, 455 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: like we cannot at this point in this country agree 456 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: what time it is. So we'll see where this goes. 457 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: Let's check out the latest on that one that's coming 458 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 2: up following the news at three o'clock. 459 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 8: And I just want to say that there's a whole 460 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 8: other aspect about the ape class thing that I don't 461 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 8: think you're aware of, and that. 462 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: Is that our public school systems. 463 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 8: The mainstream classes, are teaching nothing. 464 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not true. They say that a lot, and 465 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: I understand test scores are not as good as we like, 466 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: and we hear all this woke, weird illness out of 467 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: public schools and it's frustrating. And I've been in public school. 468 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: So my kids went to public school from K through six, 469 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 2: I think or five, and they would still be there 470 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: if it were not for COVID. In public schools, they 471 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: you know what happened. They refused to teach and so 472 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: I had to pull my kids out and find this 473 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: mind a school that was willing to break the law 474 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: and actually have in school. And there were schools throughout 475 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 2: the state of California, believe it or not where kids 476 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: went to class and didn't wear masks. You didn hear 477 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: about them, but the parents that cared found them. Uh, 478 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: and that's where they are now. But yeah, I've been 479 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: to public school and yeah, are there woke weirdos in 480 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: public school? For sure? 481 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 4: Uh? 482 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: Is it the exception not the rule. Yeah, most of 483 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: the time, all day, every day at school, kids learn. 484 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 2: So it's just not true that they don't learn anything 485 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: and therefore I have to enroll them in an AP 486 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: class or else to not do How would the kids 487 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: know to learn in the AP class if they didn't 488 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 2: learn how to read and write in the first place. Like, 489 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 2: very little goes on in education that you need to 490 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: retain what you're being taught, and if you are getting 491 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: a good education, then this will happen. You are being 492 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: taught how to learn right it is, It isn't necessary 493 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: to read some of these English literature classics Catcher in 494 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 2: the Rye and to Kill a Mockingbird, Like, it's not 495 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: absolutely necessary. They read them because everyone's read them, and 496 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: so hope is maybe the parents have read them and 497 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: they can help if the kids are having trouble understanding him. 498 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: And they're called classics for a reason. But you could 499 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 2: absolutely be successful in life and never read To Kill 500 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: a Mockingbird. I didn't read it. I got the club notes, 501 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: like I hated. Reading English wasn't my thing, and reading 502 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: comprehension tests I didn't do well on, and I did 503 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: better on oral exams and I did in written exams. 504 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 2: And this is the way my brain worked, and it's 505 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: working for me. So I stuck with it. But I'm 506 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: basics are what you have to learn, and you learn 507 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: the basics pretty much in elementary school. After that you're 508 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 2: just being exposed to different things, like once you can read, 509 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: and that's really important. That's why I am such a 510 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: huge proponent of TK and early childhood development. I've said 511 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: for years that kindergarten should start at four years old, 512 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 2: and now I think it probably should start around three. 513 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: What we ought to do in public education is eliminate 514 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: the senior year and stick it in the front at 515 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: kindergarten and shift everything downward. There's no reason at all 516 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 2: for a seventeen year old young man to be in 517 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: a classroom with eighteen other seventeen year old young men 518 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: and women arguing with a teacher about being late or penmanship. Right. 519 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: These are young adults. They need to be outdoing things. 520 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: They don't need to be in a classroom. That's why 521 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 2: you have so many problems in senior year. Disciplinary problems. Uh, 522 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: they're just it's not the right place. Happy Days is over, 523 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: Richie Pazzi and Ralph Mouth was on TV in real life, 524 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: they should not have been in high school at that age. 525 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: And but what we really need, what we really could use, 526 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: is stimulation of a four year old to colors and 527 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: shapes and numbers and letters, and that's what we ought 528 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: to be doing. But everything that you need you get 529 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: from K through six. Then you use those tools, your 530 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: ability to read, your ability to write, and your ability 531 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: to count and communicate. Then you use those abilities to 532 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 2: think in secondary school and in high school. So when 533 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: they say they teach you nothing, they you don't need 534 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: to know a lot, right, high school history class is 535 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: not the like it's you don't need to do well 536 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: in that to do well in life. So why would 537 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: anybody take ap history in high school? 538 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 7: First of all, Happy Martin's a King day, Thank you 539 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 7: doctor King. Talking about kids in sports and my sons 540 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,239 Speaker 7: did it. 541 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: My son did it. 542 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: My two daughters did. 543 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: Volleyball all the way through the elementary school and club 544 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: and high school. 545 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: They didn't go to college. Also, not so much scholarges. 546 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: But they were able to play on the teams and 547 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of scholarship. 548 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: But either way, that's what you do. But sometimes it's 549 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: also too nice to meet the parents. Usually we had 550 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: nice parents, Thank goodness for that. Yeah, I do like 551 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: the parents on my kids team. What's really interesting, they 552 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: have this other scan that I hate in California high schools. 553 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: This was not around when I went to high school. 554 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: But in order to graduate, you have to do these 555 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: things called service hours, and it's a real annoyance, like 556 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: nobody is getting anything out of it. There are no 557 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: noble experiences that are happening at the soup kitchen. Is 558 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: just a real waste of parents' time and a hassle 559 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: for the kids and stupid. But my middle son, my 560 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: fifteen year old, he found a back door. So it 561 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: turns out that you can get service hours by coaching 562 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: like elementary school kids games or referee and that's worked 563 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: out great. So he now coaches my youngest his flag 564 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: football team, and they're doing undefeated last season, and we 565 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: just had our first game of winter season and they 566 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: won a couple of bad calls, but nobody yelled at 567 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: the ref but he get yeah, so he does that. 568 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: They're all on the same field on Saturday, so that's 569 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: easier for me and my wife, and he gets service 570 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: our credit without having to go down to the filthy 571 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: soup kitchen, so that's all good. So we got that 572 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: all tied up, and that's the way it will be 573 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: for the rest of this fall, of the rest of 574 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: this winner, and then we'll see what happens in spring, 575 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: all right, when we come back. The daylight saving daylight 576 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: saving time thing drives me insane because it's such a 577 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: simple solution. Just pick one. The other side's going to 578 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: be mad for a couple of weeks and then it'll 579 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: be sunny out anyway and no one will notice. But 580 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: in Congress. We absolutely are so divided that we cannot 581 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: choose time anymore. We'll tell you all about it. 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