1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travison buck Sexton 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We have 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: got so much to dive into, but we begin with 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: the pain of Joe Biden's continued failure in economic policies. 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Remember when James Carville said in nineteen ninety two, it's 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: the economy stupid. I would say to everyone out there 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: that is gearing up for the mid terms, everybody who 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: is in competitive races, it's the economy stupid. New numbers 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: out on inflation and they are not good, not good 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: at all, worse than expectations, still over eight percent. Stock 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: market has responded in an awful way. The Dow down 13 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: as we began the show around six hundred and fifth 14 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: points S and P five hundred down over two percent. 15 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: These are massive drops. The expectation was inflation was not 16 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: going to continue to be the boogeyman. Economists bought into 17 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: some of the lies being peddled by Joe Biden. A 18 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: lot of you did not, because you see the impact 19 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: of inflation every day in your real world. Many people 20 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: have just used gas prices as a proxy of inflation. Unfortunately, 21 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: there are many things that are wrong with this current economy. 22 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: From the house GOP account, gas utilities up thirty three percent, 23 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: electricity up just shy of sixteen percent, food at home 24 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: up thirteen point five percent, transportation costs up eleven point 25 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: three percent, new cars up ten percent, food away from 26 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: home up eight percent, used cars up big, Your cost 27 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: of your rent, your shelter up massively. Buck, this is 28 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: not going away. And as if to prove that he 29 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: is the most tone deaf and awful president of any 30 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: of our lives, you can't even make this up. Today, 31 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: at three o'clock Eastern, Joe Biden has scheduled a celebration 32 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: for the Inflation Reduction Act. I say that sarcastically because that, unfortunately, 33 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: is the name of the massive federal spending bill which 34 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: every independent economic analyst says will either do nothing to 35 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: inflation or actually make it worse. And here we are 36 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: still sitting at forty year worst average inflation, and it's 37 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: not getting any better. And Buck, I think it's fair 38 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: to say that October, the last number that we will 39 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: see before the midterms, is still going to be around 40 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: eight percent. Forty year inflation highs are not going away. 41 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: They aren't declining rapidly. The Fed is going to have 42 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: to raise interest rates, probably at least another three quarter points, 43 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: maybe multiple times before the end of the year. This 44 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: Biden inflation albatross is going to be longer lasting. Remember 45 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: all the lies they sold there's going to be transitory, 46 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: that it wasn't going to be very sustainable, that it 47 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: was Putin's gas hike, all these different things, Putin's inflation hike, 48 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: that's not true. Biden's been a disaster on the economy, 49 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: and today we got unfortunate news that it's not getting 50 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: better anytime soon. Everybody's also seen that the FED, which 51 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: is supposed to be a non political, a political instrument 52 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: of monetary policy. Of course it's political. I mean, think 53 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: about all the government institutions that we have been told 54 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: in recent years, it's just the experts doing the right stuff, 55 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: doing what the expertise guides them toward. CDs. See that's 56 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: a joke. FBI not looking so good. EPA a bunch 57 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: of leftist lunatics. I know. The FED is something that 58 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: people think of as a bunch of nerds sitting around 59 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: with calculators deciding the what the rate of inflation should be. 60 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: But obviously, Clay, they're making political calculations right now based 61 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: upon whether or not they're going to let us do 62 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: what let the economy do what it clearly wants to do, 63 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: which is recede as in a recession, as in slowing 64 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: down the velocity of the money that has been splashing 65 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: all over the country and all over the world. They 66 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: don't want to do it. Nobody wants to be the 67 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: one right now to pull off the band aid. We've 68 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: all been there, right, We all know you got that 69 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: scrape on the knee and looks kind of gross under there, 70 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: and you go, oh, this could feel just a little bit, 71 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: just a little bit. Jerome Palell needs to rip that 72 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: thing off. He needs to rip that band aid off. 73 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: And it's gonna suck. And that's the part of it 74 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: that slows it down for or that's a part of 75 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: it that makes them slow it down in this way 76 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: where we're just going a little bit by little bit. 77 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: We all know what has to happen here. We spent 78 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: as a country trillions of dollars because of COVID lockdowns. 79 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: We're thirty one trillion soon in debt. People are raising 80 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: the alarms by this. Remember the Tea Party, Clay, but 81 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: we should go back and check what was the national 82 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: debt when the Tea Party ten minutes was be tricking 83 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: out till it's trillion. We're a thirty trillion right now. 84 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna be at thirty one trillion real soon. And 85 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: is it a surprise to anybody that it turns out 86 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: you can't just help people stay home. We'll send you 87 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: a check in the mill. Everybody gets checks. We basically 88 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: tried not only modern monetary theory, but universal basic income, 89 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: and we saw, sure enough, it is a massive, a 90 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: massive failure from the perspective of a healthy economy. So 91 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: right now we're in this position where Democrats, you know, 92 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: Jerome pal obviously and the Democrats more generally are looking 93 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: at this and they're just saying, we're gonna do it little, 94 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: piece by piece, and I hope that people don't even 95 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: realize that the frog is boiling in the pot. They're 96 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: gonna turn it up degree by degree. Here's a couple 97 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: of other points that are out there that I think 98 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: are worth making. This is from the Washington Post, so 99 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: it's not some right wing rag that's sharing this food 100 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: at home, up thirteen point five percent in the past year, 101 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: according to Washington Post, the largest increase since nineteen seventy nine. 102 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: Rent is up six point seven percent in the past year, 103 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: the largest increase since nineteen eighty six, Electricity is up 104 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: fifteen point eight percent, the largest increase since nineteen eighty one, 105 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: and health insurance costs are up twenty four point three percent, 106 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: the largest ever on record. So, if you're out there 107 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: and Democrats are trying to sell well, gas prices have 108 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: declined fourteen weeks in a row. First of all, they're 109 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: still really high, but all of these other things are 110 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: actually increasing at massive rates such that we're still running 111 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: at over eight percent inflation. And one more thing buck 112 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: that I think is key here. We've also got a 113 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: situation which is not getting enough attention, which is that 114 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: everybody out there, everybody out there right now is dealing 115 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: with real costs. And what I mean by real cost 116 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: real wages have fallen every month since Joe Biden passed 117 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: his one point nine trillion dollars stimulus package, which really 118 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: put inflation on steroids here, and that means that everybody 119 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: out there is actually working for less money because your 120 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: wages are increasing at a slower rate than the cost 121 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: of everything that you have to pay for. And here's 122 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: where I think we have to we have to hammer 123 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: home why the political vulnerability of the Democrats should be. 124 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: It should be extreme on this issue, and it should 125 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: be very apparent to everybody the things, because we all 126 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: know what their game is right now. One, it's been 127 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: bad for a while, so maybe people are getting used 128 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: to high inflation. This has been my concern for the 129 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: last six months on inflation, or certainly since you may 130 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: June period, is that eventually people go, well, I guess 131 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: inflation is just the way it is. It's lingering at 132 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: a very high level. This is a worse than expected report, 133 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: which is always so interesting. You know, notice that they 134 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: expected it to be better, or the economist said, but 135 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't. But clay the vulnerability as I see it, 136 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: Forbiden the Democrats, they're gonna say, oh, but look what 137 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: Trump spent. Look at the debt that grew for multiple 138 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: presidents before us. It's not fair to put this all 139 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: on us. There is some truth to that. Because we 140 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: live in reality, right we are dealing in the world 141 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: of reality. There are some truth to that statement, but 142 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: there would always be truth to that statement with a president, right, 143 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: there's a national debt, you're inheriting it, you're dealing with it. 144 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: The part that I think everyone needs to understand is 145 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: what you just got into a second ago with a 146 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: one point nine trillion dollar spending package, totally party line 147 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: Democrat at the start of Biden's presidency, and now the 148 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: Inflation Reduction Act that's actually going to make inflation worse. 149 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: All of the responses, all the things Democrats want to 150 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: do will make inflation worse. That's the part of it. 151 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: So they've made it worse. They can argue about how 152 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: much of it is their fault, but the reason why 153 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: they need to lose power in elected office is because 154 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: all of their impulses in response to the numbers you're 155 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: putting out everything is I got an idea, Let's spend 156 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: more money. They're out of their minds. This is the 157 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: only thing. Oh, in tax you more. That's their view 158 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: of how to deal with inflation. Spend even more money, 159 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: and then try to squeeze small businesses in particular for 160 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: more tax dollars. Yeah, and what this becomes, unfortunately a 161 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: truism and if you're out there and you're saying, Okay, 162 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: well we're in a big hole. How do we get 163 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: out of it? Well, you don't get out of it 164 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: by digging a deeper ditch. And again they're going to 165 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: brag today in one of the most ill timed, awkward, 166 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: tone deaf political moves that I can remember in modern memory. Buck, 167 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: they're hosting a celebration at the White House today for 168 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: what they're calling the Inflation Reduction Act. And it's unfortunate. 169 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: Each of those seats in Georgia probably cost the American 170 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: taxpayer a trillion dollars or more. Right, because if Republicans 171 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: had won either of those seats in the special election 172 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: in Georgia in January of twenty one, leave aside the 173 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: election of twenty twenty and just focus on January of 174 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: twenty one, the runoffs in Georgia, I think there's a 175 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: strong likelihood that we would have probably not passed the 176 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: one point nine trillion, certainly would not have passed this 177 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: eight hundred billion Inflation Reduction Act, probably don't pass anywhere 178 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: near as much infrastructure. In other words, that was each 179 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: of those seats cost every American taxpayer around a trillion dollars. 180 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: And this is why I'm wild to think about when 181 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: we talk about the margins and the size of this 182 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: audience that we're speaking to everyday nationwide, this audience that 183 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: rush built over decades. We think about the impact that 184 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: all of you listening to this can have, and this audience, 185 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: if you are listening to this, has the ability to 186 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: change the outcome in your state and for the country 187 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to the Senate, when it comes to 188 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: the House. Don't don't be lulled into some sense of oh, 189 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: but the numbers are so big and it's such a 190 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: large country, and somebody else will show up and vote Georgia. 191 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: What was the final tally. I mean, we're talking about 192 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: ten thousand votes, give or take Arizona. You look at 193 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: the final tally Pennsylvania. It was about forty thousand or 194 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: so in Pennsylvania. These are tiny margins. There are more 195 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: people than that listening in each of those states. Right now. 196 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: You have to remember, folks, that the media narrative right 197 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: now is going to be trying to convince you to 198 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: be demoralized. And also there's so much cynicism. I mean, 199 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: Clay to call it the Inflation Reduction Act, is essentially 200 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: Democrats saying we think the media, which is ninety five 201 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: percent in the news media Democrat dominated, is so in 202 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: the tank for us. And we also the Democrats believe 203 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: that voters are so inept that they can just call 204 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: something the Inflation Reduction Act and people will vote for them, saying, oh, 205 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna deal with inflation. It's really deeply cynical. 206 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: Imagine the audacity of having a celebration today on the 207 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: day where we're setting records in the cost increases in 208 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: many different products out there. I mean, you've never had 209 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: to pay more for groceries at home eating, going all 210 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: the way back to nineteen seventy nine, and many of 211 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: our listeners, Buck, you weren't even born. I was a 212 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: baby the last time things cost this much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 213 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: Bucks a millennial. I was born in seventy nine. Clay 214 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: was riding chariots to school. It was a long time ago. 215 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: This is how crazy it is. I saw Jim Jordan, 216 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: our buddy, just tweeted, I couldn't even drive a car 217 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: the last time that grocery prices were this high, And 218 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: they're going to celebrate that today at the White House 219 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: and it's not getting better anytime soon. That's the other 220 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: part of this. Everybody who knows anything about the economy 221 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: is telling everyone who will listen. Inflation is going to 222 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: remain stubborn. Jobs are probably going to start getting hit 223 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: gunning start getting cut soon. And it's just a question 224 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: I can they expand the correction as in the recession 225 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: so much that people don't even really notice what's going 226 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: on politically, even though they're noticing it in their paycheck, 227 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: in their workplace, in their four oh one case. We'll 228 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: come back into more on this in the second. Plus 229 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about those midterms. 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Fetterman shows 266 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: up and when he does speak, you think that it's 267 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: like a robot with the batteries fading in real time, 268 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: which is obviously not confidence inspiring to anybody who thinks 269 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: that a United States Senator should be somebody who you 270 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: know has full ability, health and control of his faculties. 271 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: But there's a there's a theory. I mean, Clay, it's 272 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: getting out of control. It's very obvious with Fetterman what's 273 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: going on here? Yeah, and I think this is significant. 274 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: Even left leaning media is now starting to talk about Fetterman. 275 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you brought it up because it reminded 276 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: me the Washington Post editorial. Did you see this that 277 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: came out yesterday after our show? John Fetterman needs to 278 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: debate more than once for the US Senate. This is 279 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: from the Washington Post editorial board right after our show 280 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: finished yesterday. They one of their top editors for the 281 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: newspaper said, people need to be able to see the Fetterman, 282 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: and this editorial's pretty pretty crushing. The Fetterman campaign squandered 283 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: credibility by concealing for the public for two days after 284 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: his stroke. They haven't been forthcoming with his medical history. 285 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: It's not good enough he's asking I'm reading from their 286 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: from their editorial, which is I think a sign of 287 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: a lot of momentum for Oz. He's asking voters for 288 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: a six year contract without giving them enough information to 289 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: make sound judgments about whether he's up for such a 290 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: demanding job. We need. The Washington Post said, full disclosure 291 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 1: of his health records, and he should debate mister Oz 292 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: before voters start casting their ballots, and that this must happen. So, 293 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that the Washington Post is calling 294 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: him out is a pretty significant detail. Well, these are 295 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: lagging indicators from regime media, right when it becomes too obvious, 296 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: when it is no longer possible for them with a 297 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: straight face without destroying whatever shred of credibility they have 298 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: that they're a fact based, reality based organization. When it's 299 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: no longer defensible, then they start to write these editorials. 300 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: We're at that place with Fetterman. But but my thesis here, Clay, 301 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: is this is a broader theme. There are a number 302 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: of candidates who are really just trying to trying to 303 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: do the Biden in the basement routine, hoping that regime 304 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: media the narratives of Trump up in the insurrection, and hey, 305 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: inflation is not really that bad, it's just really bad, 306 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: and all these things we're hearing it. You know that 307 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: the tops decision, the women are going to rush to 308 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: the polls. It's not even worth Republicans voting anymore. All 309 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: these things that are i think at some level meant 310 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: to do Republican enthusiasm suppression and to turn out the 311 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: left wing base and avoid the fact that the candidates 312 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: the Democrats are putting forward in a number of these 313 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: key races are just not good. And we talked about Fetterman, 314 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: which now and this is beyond doubt and that's this 315 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: is a health that you mean, like, this is deep 316 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: cynicism that he stayed, he should suspend his campaign. This 317 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: is what they're doing is gross. It's wrong that this 318 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: guy is going to be the Democrat nominee from that state, 319 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: because they're essentially hoping that they can get away with 320 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: an emperor has no closed situation there. Worth enough, it's 321 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: not with all the voters, but even in Arizona. Carry Lake, 322 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: who we both think is a future star of the GOP. 323 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: She put out this act because Katie Hobbs's basically saying 324 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: I will not share a debate stage with Carrie Lake. 325 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: Carrie is hitting back on this one. For the first 326 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: time in the history of our state, there will be 327 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: no Clean Elections gubernatorial debate, bucking state tradition. My opponent, 328 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: Katie Hobbs, has made it official she will not share 329 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: a debate stage with me under any circumstance. Now, I'd 330 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: like to speak directly to you, Katie. You think this 331 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: issue is going to go away, that Arizonas will just 332 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 1: throw up their hands and say, oh, well, no debate 333 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: this year. Well, you're sorely mistaken. I have asked the 334 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: Clean Elections Commission to extend the deadline for you to 335 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: confirm your attendance to the day of the debate. Should 336 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: you grow a spine between now in October twelfth, there 337 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: will be an empty chair waiting for you on the 338 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: debate stage. This is what needs to happen. Remember how 339 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: we said Republicans need to go on off, need to 340 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: point out what their opponents, they have to force them 341 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: into the public eye. Because the game plan for Hobbs, 342 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: for Fetterman, for you know, go down the list of 343 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: all of them, for all of them is, oh, I'm 344 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: not like one of those crazy left wing gender transition 345 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: for twelve year old Democrats who's spending all the money 346 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: and making your grocery prices and your gas prices go 347 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: way up. I'm like a nice, moderate, normal Democrat. You know, 348 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm not one of those. It's all a lie. And 349 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: the game is to have the regime media at the 350 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: national level and then at the state level. Unfortunately, all 351 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: the major state newspapers and all these places, you know, 352 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: whether it's Pittsburgh at anywhere in Arizona, obviously Arizona, I 353 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: mean at Land, I'm thinking about Georgia. But the biggest, 354 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: the biggest newspapers in all these states are essentially carrying 355 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: water for the Democrat candidates. Between that, CNN, the New 356 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: York Times. They think that that's how they win the election, 357 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: just have these candidates. It's that no one really gets 358 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: to ask any questions too well. They're trying to hide, 359 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: and I think it's significant not only for from radical 360 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: propositions that they have a spouse, but how good is 361 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: Carrie Lake. I mean, she is such a stud I 362 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: said last week that you know, guys, I know I 363 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: love to gamble that I would like to go with 364 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: a parlay. I think Carry Lake is going to end 365 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: up winning comfortably in Arizona. She is just so smooth. 366 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: She's incredibly crisp, super talented at communication skills, and devastating 367 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: when she said that the way she just dropped in 368 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: that grow a Spine line was so well done. I 369 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: think that herschel Walker's gonna win in Georgia. And I 370 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: believe that doctor Oz is going to end up winning 371 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. If I could hit on those as a 372 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: parlay out there right now, I believe all three of 373 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: those I don't believe, I know it. All three of 374 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: those candidates are considered gambling underdogs right now. If you 375 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: look at the overall market place, you can gamble on 376 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: American elections legally overseas, and so there's reliable markets there. 377 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: I think all three of those underdogs are gonna win. 378 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: That'd be a heck of a parlay pay. Anyway, I 379 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: think we should have legal we should we should have 380 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: legal political outcomes gambling in this country. We can sports. 381 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: Why can't you do it on political outcomes? Because so 382 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: many of these pundits, man, these people that are, oh, 383 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: I know what's gonna happen. Yeah, let's see the record, 384 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know, I agree. It's not to 385 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: be a tough thing. When you did four years in 386 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: a row of sports gambling on TV, you can't run 387 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: and hide from every pick you've ever made on a game. 388 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 1: And it's tough, right. If you can get to fifty 389 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: two point three percent in sports gambling, you're a stud. 390 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: If you can get to fifty five percent, you end 391 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: up like Biff and Back to the Future. That means 392 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: you lose forty five percent of the time. But it's 393 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: hard to beat the market in anything, right, hard to 394 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: beat the SMP five hundred. It's hard to beat consensus opinion. 395 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: And and I just think all three of those candidates, 396 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: Carry Lake, doctor Oz and herschel Walker are being undervalued 397 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: right now. Can you tell me what the I don't 398 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: mean right this second, But can we do a you know, 399 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: where to look for this. I'm wondering because my belief 400 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: right now, my strong belief right now, is that Joe 401 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: Biden is running. That I am more confident on than 402 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: most other predictions that I make. Joe Biden is going 403 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: to run for reelection and Donald Trump is going to 404 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: run against him, and that we're gonna have a replay 405 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: that is mine. You think I can, I can look up. 406 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: I will give you. I'll look it up during the 407 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: commercial break. I will tell you what that prediction would 408 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: pay to this exact day. If you were betting in 409 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: England right now on that being, you can bet on 410 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: the matchup of an election. You can bet on Biden 411 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: versus Trump, you know, part two. And that's a perfect 412 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: and smooth transition here, Clay to the fixation that they 413 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: still have on Trump. Now, remember we talk about this 414 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: in the context of understanding that when the Libs, when 415 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: the Democrats, when the Merrick Garland DOJ does this stuff. 416 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: At some level, the process is the punishment for the 417 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: people involved. So just getting the lawyers and having to 418 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: deal with all this nonsense from the DJ about January sixth, 419 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: that's part of it. Also, it's a distraction tactic away 420 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: from the wide open border. I mean, do you see 421 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: you know your colleague at Fox, Bill Mulugion, he's got 422 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: this live video of people in all Camo with essentially 423 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: rope ladders going over and I mean it's the border's 424 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: wide open. Does an incredible job covering the border region. 425 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he really does. It's crazy though, when you 426 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: look at the numbers, when you start to actually so anyway, 427 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about the border, but that's wide open. 428 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: All these things the economy, inflation, inflation numbers super bad. 429 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: That's where the market got crushed by eight hundred plus 430 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: points today. They want us talking about Trump. Now, that 431 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: is in some ways a distraction, but we also have 432 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: to be prepared. I think this is politically the Bazuka 433 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: they think they have in their back pocket, so to speak. 434 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: I think the Libs believe that if all else fails 435 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: to divert what we've been what I just talked about, 436 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: where we're talking about the Trump Biden matchup that's coming, 437 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: they want to muddy up the waters. They want to 438 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: do something, and that's why we have to take seriously. Still, 439 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Julie Kelly joining us at the bottom 440 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 1: of this hour the possibility they are lighting this up 441 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: for some kind of a criminal prosecution of Donald Trump. 442 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: Justice Department this was just a New York Times species 443 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: yesterday issued forty subpoenas in a week, expanding its January 444 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: sixth inquiry. They've also seized phones of two top Trump advisors. 445 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Clay, this could just be distraction to you know, 446 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: and we don't know if it is or not until 447 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: we see if they prosecute or not. Right clearly, if 448 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: they don't decide to prosecute, well then this is just 449 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: a distraction. But I think when you're talking about dozens 450 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: and dozens of subpoenas and doing all this, we'll ask 451 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: Julie about this. I don't think they've made the determination 452 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: to prosecute Trump yet, but I don't think it's off 453 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: the table yet. Based on what we're seeing right now, 454 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: what do you think I think they're going to try 455 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: to find a way to charge Trump in twenty three 456 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that it's going to be over these documents, 457 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: although it could be. What I think is going on 458 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: right now is inflations at eight point three percent. They 459 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: are trying desperately to make twenty twenty two about Donald Trump. 460 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: And to me, twenty twenty three is all going to 461 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: be about Donald Trump, because is he going to run? 462 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: Who's going to run against him? How to Republicans respond 463 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: to the possibility that he might get indicted by his 464 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: chief running opposition, which I think actually helps Trump somewhat. 465 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: And this is my conspiracy theory, Buck, I think that 466 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: Joe Biden owes his entire political past as president and 467 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: political future as a candidate to the that Donald Trump 468 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: has to run. Biden's only reason for existence at eighty 469 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: two is Democrats believe they can drag him across the 470 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: finish line. Donald Trump is the life vest that is 471 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: keeping Joe Biden from sinking underwater and being abandoned by 472 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. And so I think, just think about this, 473 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: everything that Joe Biden can do to antagonize Trump, to 474 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: put Trump into the news. Another analogy for you, These 475 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: are like two heavyweight boxers in the twelfth round. Either 476 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: one of them would fall down if they weren't leaning 477 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: on each other. And I'll give you the odds on 478 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: the potential for a rematch when we come back in 479 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: this next segment, Buck, But I do find it to 480 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: be so intriguing the desperate ploys by the Biden administration 481 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: and their allies in the Justice Department to make the 482 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: mid term about Trump as opposed to the futility of Biden. 483 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: You know, maybe we can help out some of these 484 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: Democrat candidates, making them a little less whimpy, a little 485 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: more willing to go out there, stand up and say 486 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: what they really believe, by sending them some chalk. I mean, 487 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: I think it actually might really help them. I think 488 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: that some of these candidates lack the edge, the advantage 489 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: that you can get from chalk that'll give you the energy, 490 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: the focus you need to go about your day to 491 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: day with maximum efficiency. So carry Lake says, Oh, they 492 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: maybe she'll grow a spine. Maybe she actually just needs 493 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: some chalk. It's possible because there's chalk for women too. 494 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: But let's start with the chalk mill vitality stack. 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Used Buck nine five for ninety five percent 523 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: off your first month of any Chuck subscription under seventy dollars. 524 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: From the front Lines of Truth, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, 525 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clay and Buck Show. We've been talking 526 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: about the flurry of subpoenas since two people in Trump's 527 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: or bid having to do with January six they've seen 528 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: some cell phones. This has all been escalating recently. What 529 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: is going on here? What is the endgame? Well, we'll 530 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: get into it. Julie Kelly, senior writer American Greatness and 531 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: author of January six. How Democrats use the Capitol protest 532 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: to launch a war on terror against the political right 533 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: is with us now, Julie. Good to have you back. Hey, guys, 534 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: thanks for heaving me on. So, Julie, we're trying to 535 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: always gauge how much this stuff is political theatrics and 536 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: intimidation to affect the mid terms, to distract people from 537 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: what's going on, and how much is actually preparation for 538 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: a seismic legal maneuver by the Democrats. I mean a 539 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: huge move, which is what going after a former president 540 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: would be. What do you make of the recent I 541 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: think it was forty subpoenas that have been reported on 542 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: the last week or so that have gone out to 543 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: Trump Allas. What's the game plan that they're running with here. 544 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: I think it's all of the above. I think it's 545 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: political theater. I think it's optics. I think that's what 546 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: the Mara Lago FBI raid on August eighth was was 547 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: just optics to justify what eventually will be a criminal 548 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: indictment of Donald Trump. Obviously, this is an ongoing campaign 549 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: and crusade of terror and intimidation not just against Trump 550 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: and his allies and his advisors, but also of course 551 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: to nearly nine hundred Trump supporters who have so far 552 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: been arrested, had their homes rated, charged with ridiculous offenses 553 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: related to mostly non violent participation in the Capitol protests 554 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: more than twenty months ago. So this is a multifaceted 555 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: operation that we've all talked about will lead to criminal 556 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: indictment of Donald Trump on at least a few charges, 557 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: probably obstruction, conspiracy, tampering with evidence, witness witnesses, etc. And 558 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: of course this is to influence the twenty twenty two election, 559 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: because we see now how this timeline is all shaping 560 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: up right before the beginning of November. So I don't 561 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: think that they're going to charge I agree with you 562 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: that there. I'm increasingly convinced that they're going to try 563 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: to charge him with something. Julie and I think we 564 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: had this conversation before. I don't think they're going to 565 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: do it before November, but I think they want the 566 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: drip drip drip of storylines to be coming out because really, 567 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden can't run on his own record. He has 568 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: to run against Trump because he's been a disaster. So 569 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: let's I don't know if you agree. Do you think 570 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: it's going to happen in twenty twenty two or twenty 571 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: twenty three that he might be indicted. I think it's 572 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: going to happen this year, and I think it's going 573 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: to happen before the election. Oh you think before the election? Yeah? 574 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: Expand on this, Well, first of all, they're not going 575 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: to abide by any twenty day DJ rule to not 576 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: interfere in election. They never have and they certainly are 577 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: not going to in this case. My argument is because 578 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: they keep ratcheting this up higher and higher every single day. 579 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: So now we see it with this new flurry of subpoenas, 580 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a chance they might raid Badminster 581 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: now amid the archive is claimed today that they don't 582 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: think they have all the classified documents. If they don't 583 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: indict Donald Trump, the Democrats will pay a political price 584 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: in November. They can't keep stringing this along for the 585 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: next four or five six months. They can't keep I 586 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: mean they can because their base is stupid and gullible 587 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: and and vengeful. Tell us what you really think, Julie Nice. Well, look, 588 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, if it weren't for the base of the 589 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, this wouldn't be happening. These people have a 590 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: blood lust in them, not just for Donald Trump, but 591 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: for all of his voters as well. So we can't 592 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: just make this about the leaders at the Democratic Party. 593 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: This is about the base. We're speaking to, Julie Kelly. 594 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: We're speaking to Julie Kelly from American Great History as 595 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: a senior writer. Julie, how should we think of Mara 596 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: LAGU documents, National Archives, upset classification stuff, YadA, YadA, plus 597 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: January six subpoenas flying is this just are they doing 598 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: the all of the above approach at when it comes 599 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: to legal abuse or do you see how these pieces 600 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: specifically fit together? Right? So is this is this just 601 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: like the shotgun to see what they hit or are 602 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: they actually taking Are these two things going together in 603 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: a way that's already apparent to you. I mean, I 604 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: think they're throwing everything at the board that they possibly can, 605 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of it sticks. Especially related to the 606 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: criminal prosecution and what's happening in this DC court system. 607 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: The DJ is getting away with everything that they want 608 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: to and knew. Have a DC grand jury that's signed 609 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: off in at least six grand jury indictments for seditious conspiracy. 610 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: This is a sense so rare. No America has ever 611 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: been convicted of it. But yet you have a DC 612 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: grand jury at the b hast to federal prosecutors indicting 613 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: sixteen Americans who by the way, participated, did not sting 614 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: violent on January sixth, So this is also look at 615 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: what's going to happen over the next month. So we 616 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: have now these new subpoenas, we could potentially have a 617 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: rate of Bedminster. We have a new January sixth committee 618 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: hearing scheduled for the end of September, two days after 619 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: the major trial of the Oathkeepers begins in Washington, DC. 620 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: The January sixth Committee has delayed the September thirteenth release 621 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: of their report until October of eighteen. October eighteenth. So 622 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: this is how all these parts are moving together, because 623 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: of course he had the Committee, working with DOJ, working 624 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: with the media to make this all happen. So this 625 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: is going to hit a crescendo before November to interfere 626 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: in the election. But also I think to justify criminal 627 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 1: charges against Donald Trump. Okay, so let's say you're right, Julie, 628 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: and Trump gets charged with crimes. What does that mean 629 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: in your opinion for Trump as a potential twenty twenty 630 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: four nominee, Because I think that's actually the most fascinating 631 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: part about this. Do charges actually make him more likely 632 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: to be the Republican nominee less likely? How does this 633 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: play out as you consider what the primary season would 634 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: look like during all of twenty twenty three and then 635 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty four primary elections themselves. I mean, 636 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: that is a great question. I really don't know politically 637 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: how it will with Republican voters. I know that there 638 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,959 Speaker 1: are people who after the mar La mar Lago raid, 639 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: have achieved a new level of outrage and even support 640 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. You know, if this is how he's 641 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: going to be treated, and by extension, all of us, 642 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: we'll walk through burning broken glass to make sure that 643 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: he is elected in twenty twenty four. Of course, they 644 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: want to turn off the squishy Republican you know, this 645 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 1: is called a sac suburban y moms who they're easily 646 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: turned off anyway. But how this will energize the base? 647 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: I feel like it already has and will continue to 648 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: do so. But look what they want with an indictment 649 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 1: of Trump before the election. They want more violence. They 650 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: want the maga violence fascism that Joe Biden and the 651 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: regime says. They want that to become a self fulfilling prophecy. 652 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: So that's what they're hoping. Another goal is of this 653 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: indictment being announced before the election. Julie, is there any 654 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: of your calling so many shots? Yeah, I know, I'm 655 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 1: trying to keep track of it all. Yeah. So if 656 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: they go with the obstruction charge against Trump, what kind 657 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: of what kind of penalties do we think they would 658 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: go for? I mean, do you do you think that 659 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: is their goal to prosecute Trump so that he is 660 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: just obviously there's going to be a political wounding effect 661 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: of that. I've always the first president to ever be 662 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: indicted in this way. But do you think they would 663 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: actually taken to the point where they'd say, no, we 664 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: actually think he should serve six months, you know, we 665 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 1: actually want him to be incarcerated. Oh, absolutely, they definitely do. So. 666 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: I've said all along, I believe he will be charged 667 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: at the very least with obstruction of an official proceeding. 668 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,959 Speaker 1: You see the language directly pulled from that statute now 669 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: included in the subpoenas, which has to do with anyone 670 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: who corruptly attempted to impede or obstruct an official proceeding. 671 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: That is language that's being used directly in the subpoenas. 672 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: So yes, look, it's an unviolent felony, but it's punishable 673 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: by up to twenty years in prison. You have people 674 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: who are going to jail for four, five, six years 675 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: after either plea deals or being convicted in a court 676 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: on that nonviolent selony. So this will be sort of 677 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: a no brainer, not only for the prosecutions, but for 678 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: any DC jury because we already have several plea deals 679 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: and convictions. Now. It is on appeal right now though 680 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: in the DC Appellate Court this particular charge. If for 681 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: some reason this court invalidates that count, it will have 682 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: downstream ramifications, especially for the president for President Trump. But 683 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: there are other charges they can bring, conspiracy, tampering with evidence, 684 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: other kind of garbage offenses that they've come up with 685 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: since January sixth. But yes, they will definitely seek jail 686 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: time for him, no doubt about it. Julie, We're going 687 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,240 Speaker 1: to keep having you on. I love all the reporting 688 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: that you're doing, and if you nail all of this, 689 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna look, you're gonna be one of the most 690 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: brilliant analysts out there or craziest. Let's sea go from 691 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: crazy too, maybe not so crazy. Welcome to the team. Yeah, 692 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna say Clay. Clay likes to call shots 693 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: deep up into the upper deck, So you guys are 694 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: in good company here. Julie, thanks so much. Thanks guys, 695 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: have a great day. I love Julie the way she 696 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: just like almost carry Lake style, just kind of off handedly, 697 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: she what did she called the sack and wine moms 698 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great line. She's like, they're gonna 699 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: lose that anyway because they're unstable and crazy, so whatever. 700 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, yep, fair enough. Cyber hackers they're busy out there, 701 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: one day to breach after another being reported. 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The 731 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: Inflation Reduction Act, which virtually every economist says will either 732 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: have no impact or increase inflation going forward because the 733 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: government's spending nearly eight hundred billion additional dollars. There the 734 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: amount of whys that are coming out of Joe Biden 735 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: and the White House. I missed this tweet because I 736 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: don't follow Joe Biden on Twitter because I try to 737 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 1: limit my intake of daily White House lies. But Biden 738 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: said today, this is two hours ago. Today, we celebrate 739 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 1: the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act, which will create jobs, 740 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 1: make our code fairer, and lower costs for American families. 741 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: He then tweeted, in the last hour, let's be clear, 742 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: and by he, I mean certainly Biden probably doesn't even 743 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: know how to use Twitter. I certainly don't think he 744 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: can type anything coherent on it. But his staff tweeted, 745 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: Let's be clear, Democrats sided with the American people with 746 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: the Inflation Reduction Act, and every single Republican in Congress 747 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 1: sided with special interests. That's the choice we face. No, no, no. 748 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: The choice is can we make life better for almost 749 00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: all Americans out there? Inflation index up eight point three 750 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: three percent? Buck, some of these numbers are crazy. Eggs 751 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: up almost forty percent. Right, We've got airline fares up 752 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: thirty three percent in the last year, electricity up fifteen 753 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: point eight percent, fuel oil up nearly seventy percent, gas 754 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: up nearly twenty five point six percent, milk up seventeen percent, 755 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: groceries thirteen and a half percent, electricity nearly sixteen percent. 756 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: If you're hearing all that and you're thinking, yeah, that's 757 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: why even though I have a job, I feel like 758 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: I have less money in my pocket than I did 759 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: before Joe Biden was president. You're not making that up. 760 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: That is all one percent true. He's been a disaster 761 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: for every single working American. We all are making less 762 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 1: money in our paychecks because of Joe Biden. And yet 763 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: they want to tell you that things are going just great. 764 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: It's amazing, isn't it. Instead of dealing with the numerical 765 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,240 Speaker 1: reality of what's happening here, they would rather push fairy 766 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: tales because they know their power is at risk if 767 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: people will draw the obvious conclusion that Joe Biden, as 768 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 1: I've said, he it's not only things are bad if 769 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 1: they got their way, If the Democrats get their way, 770 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 1: these things get worse before they get better, as long 771 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: as they're calling the shots. Rick Santelli over at CNBC, 772 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: the man who called for the tea party, he's out 773 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: there saying, guys, just reminder, they want to spend even 774 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 1: more money on the Democrat side. The thing that really 775 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: bothers me with regard to inflation is everybody here on 776 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: this panel agreed months ago that one of the reasons 777 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: inflation was high was all the government spending. And after 778 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: we agreed on that, what did the government do? They 779 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: spent more student loans, welfare. In terms of the Chips Act, 780 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,959 Speaker 1: seems like nothing is sinking in. These numbers aren't better 781 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: than expected, and maybe they should be it. Maybe ultimately 782 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna start to go back up again because we 783 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: continue to go back to that well of debt end spending. 784 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,839 Speaker 1: This is just the obvious conclusion that everybody should draw. 785 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: The people in charge for are making decisions that the 786 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 1: pain you are feeling economically is directly tied to. And 787 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: what's even crazier, they want to make it even worse because, 788 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 1: as far as they're concerned, the whole point of being 789 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 1: in power is to take money from some people and 790 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: give it to others. The redistribution of wealth, government spending, 791 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:26,760 Speaker 1: taxpayer on the bill, on the ledger, for whatever social 792 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: policies they want to pursue. It's madness. So that's where 793 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: we are with the economy. I wanted to pause here 794 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 1: for a minute and play this too. We've been talking 795 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: buck about how CNN has been rapidly trying to pivot 796 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: back towards the middle. They fired our great friend Brian Stelter, 797 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: who now has got a job at Harvard to talk 798 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: about threats to democracy. That's not hyperbole or satire, that's real. 799 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: Harvard University is now going to pay him hundreds of 800 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars to lectures students about how Republicans are 801 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: a threat to democracy. And the media at CNN and 802 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 1: many other places jumped all over. We got a monster 803 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,919 Speaker 1: audience listening to us in Utah. Thanks to everybody out 804 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: there listening in Salt Lake and beyond and in Provo, Utah. 805 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: There was an allegation we covered it on this show, 806 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: one of the few places that would actually cover the truth, 807 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 1: that a BYU volleyball player had had a racial slur 808 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: hurled at her during a match. She was sorry a 809 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: Duke volleyball player playing against BYU. The media immediately condemned 810 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: not only BYU, all of their students, all of their alums, everyone. Frankly, 811 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: they were trying to tie together in the Mormon faith. 812 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: All of it came under siege because of this allegation. 813 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 1: It now appears it was Jess Smalette on a volleyball court, 814 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: and CNN actually buck had a contributor go on the 815 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: air and call out all the media that got it 816 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: wrong and point out, hey, there's a rush to judgment here. 817 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: There's nothing to support that this actually happened. Listen. Healthy 818 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 1: skepticism is always a virtue, but this doesn't read like 819 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: a cover up. Instead, it feels like there was a 820 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: rush to judgment because of a well intentioned impulse to 821 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 1: believe the Duke players accusations. Now, we need to note 822 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: that the investigation does not call Rachel richards An a 823 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: liar or a fabricator. It leaves open the possibility that 824 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: she sincerely believed that she heard repeated Rachel heckling, that 825 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: some sort of misunderstanding occurred. But when investigations turn up 826 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: a very different fact pattern, it's incumbent upon everyone to 827 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: acknowledge it and adjust. Fidelity to the facts is all 828 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: that we, as journalists and citizens should ask. It's understandable 829 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 1: that there's a desire to believe people when they say 830 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: they've been victimized, but the accusations have to be backed 831 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: up by facts. And when the facts don't fit upon 832 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: further review, we need to set the record straight with 833 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: as much intensity as the initial reports. We've seen quite 834 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: a and here, mister Travis, can you believe that they 835 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 1: called me a right wing extremist for basically saying everything 836 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: that CNN just finally got around too. I also think 837 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: it's it's funny to watch CNN try to start to 838 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 1: be a news organization again because their jobs are all 839 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: on the line. So so this guy John Avon there 840 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: is saying and what he's saying about, well, yes it 841 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: is possible, but there are facts. What you see is 842 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: the people at CNN are capable of living in reality, 843 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: they're capable of analyzing things, but for a long time 844 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 1: they have been catering because of ideology, to people who 845 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 1: just want to hear stuff. It's your point about Hunter 846 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: Biden in the laptop. That is clearly the fact that 847 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: forty percent of people still believe it is misinformation. That 848 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,280 Speaker 1: is clearly a function of the steady diet of lies 849 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: they have been fed by the Democratic line corporate media 850 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: such that it doesn't even the correction never pen. This 851 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: is the classic thing you see on SOD. By the way, 852 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: did I jump ahead of did you not? I think 853 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,879 Speaker 1: you and I talked about that. Sorry, I thought, yeah, 854 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 1: this is for everybody out there, but just hit it. 855 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 1: There's a study out what percentage of people still believe 856 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: that the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation? Forty one 857 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:26,359 Speaker 1: percent of the American public, including half of Democrats and 858 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: roughly half of independent voters, and even I believe twenty 859 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,760 Speaker 1: seven percent of Republicans still believe the big tech lie 860 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: the collusion with the Democrat Party, that the Hunter Biden 861 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: laptop was Russian disinformation and not real. That's a staggering percentage. 862 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: Forty one percent of the American public doesn't know. And 863 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: given the big all the fact checking that the big 864 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: tech companies go on, wouldn't this be a direct threat 865 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: to democracy? That huge percentages of the American population still 866 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: aren't aware of the truth of the Hunter Biden laptop. 867 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: You would think so. And yet I mean, how many 868 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 1: people play if you looked at it back and I 869 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: think it was even twenty eighteen believed that Russia. This 870 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: was another one of these moments Russia changed vote totals 871 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: in voting machines. It was a very high number. If 872 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: you go back among them, and look at the polling. 873 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen through twenty eighteen was the last time I 874 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: saw polls. They still believed it deep into the Trump 875 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: presidency because a lot of the time, which whatever has 876 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,399 Speaker 1: to recognize, is people believe what they want to believe, right, 877 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,240 Speaker 1: and when they've been told something that is as affirming 878 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: for their whole view as of Donald Trump as evil 879 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: and he's horrible, and ah see, the Russians even changed 880 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 1: vote totals. There was never any basis in evidence for this. 881 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that even in the going back 882 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: to the BYU volleyball allegation, Uh, you notice the media 883 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 1: in recent years did this, somebody said something without evidence 884 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: and then they keep going the BYU player here made 885 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 1: an allegation that is to this day without evidence. So 886 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: the Duke player, yeah, I'm sorry the Duke player I did, Yeah, 887 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 1: to say that the Duke player against BYU made the 888 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,720 Speaker 1: same made an allegation without evidence in twenty eighteen, Speaking 889 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: of which, under remember on the Kavanaugh situation, the line 890 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: was women are to be believed, to believe all women. 891 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: We actually had a moment here where in order to 892 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 1: achieve a desired political outcome in that case for a 893 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: Supreme Court seat. It turned into evidence free allegation must 894 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: be believed true Soviet style resolution of the situation. That 895 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: was what they wanted. And Buck, think about this Duke 896 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 1: volleyball player. Either she best case scenario for her she 897 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 1: mistakenly believed she was being called a racial slow or 898 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: during a volleyball match. Why would she believe that because 899 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: she has bought into the idea that America is a 900 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: fundamentally racist place, and so she just expects that a 901 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 1: white crowd is going to be screaming racial slurs at 902 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,280 Speaker 1: her during a match and nobody's going to do anything. 903 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 1: That's the best case scenario for her. Worst case scenario here, 904 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,280 Speaker 1: she is a direct liar who made up this entire story. 905 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 1: There's zero evidence for him. Duke, if they were an 906 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: institution that cared about truth, would actually conduct an investigation here, 907 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: because if they determine that she made up this lie, 908 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: she should be kicked out of Duke and not allowed 909 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 1: to attend the school anymore because it would be a 910 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 1: violation of the student code. They will not do that, though, Buck, 911 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 1: because she is a black woman, they will not treat 912 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: her to the same standard that they would hold a 913 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 1: white guy. And we know this because, based on allegations Buck, 914 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:09,240 Speaker 1: they shut down the entire lacrosse program and then evidently 915 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: had to pay tens of million dollars in damages. But 916 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: you would think, of all institutions out there, Duke, would 917 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: we be the most skeptical of initial stories and say, wait, wait, wait, 918 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: this is an allegation, let's actually investigate. But when a 919 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 1: black woman says it, it has to be true because 920 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,720 Speaker 1: she's a victim. And black women would never lie, No Clay, 921 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,479 Speaker 1: because remember, you're you're being You're doing the whole law 922 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 1: school brain, rational evidentiary approach. 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