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Speaker 3: We got some news this morning about the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 3: and changes.

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Speaker 4: Changes, that's right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one that we kind of saw coming, but

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Speaker 5: it's still a tough blowing. Nonetheless, the Detroit Lions have

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Speaker 5: traded away half of their dynamic duo backfield Knuckles will

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Speaker 5: no longer be in Detroit. David Montgomery and Uncle has

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Speaker 5: been traded to the Houston Texans for offensive lineman Juice Scruggs.

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, I thought CJ. Stroud was in that trade.

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Speaker 5: No, Okay, and two picks in the next two drafts,

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Speaker 5: but we've kind of seen this on the writing on

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Speaker 5: the wall. He's been unhappy with his role there last season.

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Speaker 5: His touches per game really plummeted. And now all eyes

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Speaker 5: will be on a very good running back, pro bowler

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Speaker 5: Jamier Gibbs will be getting the Lion's shot of the

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Speaker 5: work even more they did last season. But long story short,

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Speaker 5: David Montgomery out of Detroit.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this to you, Kelvin, if you're a Lions fan,

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Speaker 3: this is the beginning of the end. Mark my words. Okay,

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Speaker 3: when they had their plan they put this team together,

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Speaker 3: they had like a window, a three year window. This

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. It was like a five year window.

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Speaker 4: And three good years and then the bad year last year.

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Speaker 3: Now here we are, and this is when you start

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Speaker 3: losing players. You can't hold the whole team together. You

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Speaker 3: gotta start paying some other people. This is what happens.

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Speaker 3: This is why you see teams go from pretty good

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Speaker 4: Can't pay everybody. People are moving on.

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Speaker 3: It ain't the same squad that you had when you

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Speaker 3: thought you had something special. And guess what, Dan Campbell

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Speaker 3: might be right. In fact, I know he's right. By

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Speaker 3: what when they lost that NFC Championship game to the

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Speaker 4: What did he say?

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Speaker 3: You know what he said, felt bad about the way

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a very that's.

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Speaker 3: An honest sake because of how these things go. But Kelvin,

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Speaker 3: I got my Texas, came in from our friends in Detroit,

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Speaker 3: all big Lions fans. They didn't like the news, and

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Speaker 3: I think that this could be a precursor as to

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Speaker 3: Ben Jonson's gone. You know what I mean, all the numbers,

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Speaker 3: they were killing it, offensively killing it.

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Speaker 4: I viewed differently now. It sucks, you know this from

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Speaker 4: covering sports. Certain people are the heartbeat connected to the

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Speaker 4: city fan favorites, and that's what David Montgomery had become.

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Speaker 4: Knuckles and Sonics, him and Jamier Gibbs, they have become

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Speaker 4: this fire and ice, if you will, just a great contrast.

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Speaker 4: One is more hard nose, run up the gut, get

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Speaker 4: And again it hurts because he was a great player.

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Speaker 4: So this one didn't move me quite as much as

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Speaker 4: I'll have to see it. I have to see some

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Speaker 4: They receive it though. You draft very well, so now

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Speaker 3: The who's the other offensive alignment that they let go?

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Speaker 4: The Texans you talking about? No, No, I mean the Lions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they are pieces on teams sometimes that mean

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Speaker 3: to me, this was a changing of a goal. I

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Speaker 3: Rob g Let's go to the Indianapolis and the combine

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Speaker 4: Lemonade that cool refishing drink. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Normally on this show, we don't really get too much

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Speaker 5: into the combine. You know, the underwear Olympics have never

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Speaker 5: Right, so you know that's never been a thing for us.

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Speaker 5: after says I'm a ross Saint Brown. His answer was

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Speaker 4: It's perfect.

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Speaker 5: But if you watch the video, he's kind of moving

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Speaker 5: with all the different teams, and multiple people have reported

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Speaker 5: A third scout anonymously said that Lemon quote walks around

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Speaker 5: Not a question for you guys now, I think everything

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Speaker 4: Well, he was a number one, he was the You

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Speaker 4: That's what I said, having a really good career, which

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Speaker 3: He's always representing him. Dude, I'm not working out. I'm

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Speaker 3: If you can't watch the film with me playing in

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Speaker 4: I'm dead, sir. What is he doing? Well? The opposite

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Speaker 4: Not him. The quarterbacks ain't out there throwing. You do

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Speaker 4: Magic City Monday for US, Magic City Monday in two

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Speaker 4: weeks for the Atlanta Hawks, and not everybody's in on it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, big deal, canse he missed the story Magic City Monday,

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Speaker 4: T Iyes can perform at halftime.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna serve Lemon Pepper.

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Speaker 4: Wings sell on the Hoodie Williams.

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Speaker 5: Lemon Pepper Barbecue Wings is gonna be a whole thing, right,

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Speaker 5: See that sounds better to mean to just regular drive.

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Speaker 4: Would get into that later, that's right. Trademark in front

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Speaker 4: is excited as he gets I'm not sure he's not

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Speaker 4: like a zero point one owner, big facts, the way

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Speaker 5: Considering the way y'all got into it, you can assume

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Speaker 4: Kind of way about it.

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Speaker 5: Right while Luke Cornett, the backup center of the San

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Speaker 5: Antonio Spurs, wrote a lengthy blog post about Magic City Monday,

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Speaker 5: and he is calling on the NBA and their constituents

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Speaker 5: In part, the NBA should desire to protect an esteem women,

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Speaker 5: many of whom work diligently every day to make this

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Speaker 4: Are you ready? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Backup centers should be heard, should be seen, not heard.

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Speaker 4: How's that? What like?

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Speaker 3: You want to talk about misreading the room? And we

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Speaker 3: I'm dead serious, and you know this. I mean I've

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Speaker 3: And here's the other part that I have a big

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Speaker 3: about gambling? And you know why there's no blog about

438
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 3: gambling because gambling's legal, right and the NBA's in bed

439
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 3: with gambling. And guess what so is working at a

440
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: strip club. They pay taxes. It's illegal business. It's not illegal.

441
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 3: If it's illegal, he has a leg to stand on.

442
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 3: You might not want to take part in it, which

443
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 3: I respect and I have no issue with.

444
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 4: It's a legal business.

445
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 3: This is what how women in that place or whoever

446
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 3: make money, they gotta pay for school, they gotta get diaper.

447
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 4: I'm just saying this, ain't you said ninety two whenever

448
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 4: you started going one ninety one? They just making money.

449
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 4: Now school smooth. And I ain't saying nobody. I don't

450
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 4: know that anybody. I just said I don't. Well, you

451
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 4: would know better than I. But let's not act like that.

452
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 4: It's a new what used to be taboo. All you

453
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 4: gotta do is turn on your Instagram. Somebody either that

454
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 4: they're partying Mary Grease. They're either they're participating having fun

455
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 4: or the dancing, or they're girls who wish they were

456
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 4: dancing like the dancer. It's a whole What used to

457
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 4: be taboo in underground is no longer the case. It's

458
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 4: very popular. So the lead to your point. All the

459
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 4: songs that they mentioned live, they listen Men in Magic

460
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 4: City and all that, and you know you hear them all,

461
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 4: especially in the Atlanta artists for the last twenty years

462
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 4: they've been rapping about it. But my point is, I

463
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 4: told you I don't have a problem with that's your

464
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 4: personal preface. You want to go out. I don't have

465
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 4: a problem with who am I to tell somebody what

466
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 4: they need to do. Can you do your life? And

467
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 4: this is not mine and you've never been there? Right?

468
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 4: The only thing? No, would you go just no, no, no, no.

469
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 4: Those days are yeah when I was like back in

470
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 4: the day, I try, they laughed at us because we

471
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 4: were all young, and they are like, how much y'all

472
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Speaker 4: think about it? Did you go on? No, I'm saying

473
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Speaker 4: they laughed at the idea of like you know we did,

474
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Speaker 4: like however much was We were like, oh it was

475
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 4: packed it. I think I can remember what event? Yeah, tho,

476
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 4: So those days are that that's not mine, that's not

477
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 4: my era now. But my biggest thing is I get it.

478
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 4: I knew Atlanta will eleven. I told you that Atlanta

479
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 4: will be all land. It's a big deal. But I

480
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 4: just thought then when we talked about it, that the

481
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 4: NBA being tied to it. It is just one of

482
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Speaker 4: those you can but should you?

483
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 3: But because there's only fans are also sponsoring events like

484
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: sporting events, only fans.

485
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 4: Specifically the NBA. I'm not saying no, no, but I.

486
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 3: No, no nobody, But I'm just saying, like the whole

487
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 3: thing has changed. If this was twenty five years I

488
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 3: would agree with you, but once you lay down with

489
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: the gambling and that thing.

490
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Speaker 4: But because that's the point, but what moral ground are

491
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Speaker 4: you standing on? I'm glad you said that because I agree.

492
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 4: We've talked about the gambling and propa bet we've done.

493
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 4: That's been big thing on our show. That's why I

494
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 4: do wonder if there's a part of them. All right,

495
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 4: We got the gambling, we got issues with players coming

496
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: back and forth. You know, this has not been great

497
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 4: for us, Terry Rozier, Malik Beasley, all the stuff that

498
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 4: went on, Chauncey Billips is that's still pending in all

499
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: that investigation. Nowhere did that go? You haven't heard anything?

500
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 4: All right, So you have all this stuff, the stench

501
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 4: to which set handful of years ago, you joined in

502
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: on this NBA. And that's my point. Is there a

503
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 4: regret of opening up Pandora's box, of doing that, miss

504
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: doing that? So that's why I just thought, not that

505
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 4: this It makes sense for Atlanta. Anybody knows Atlanta, you

506
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 4: know it. It totally makes sense. But more so the league. Okay,

507
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 4: if you told me, say it was one of our

508
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 4: shorter conversations we have, we call them, you know, forty five,

509
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: so we were have one of those because Magic City

510
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 4: was doing some unsanctioned NBA thing in the NBA was like, nah,

511
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 4: we'd rather you not. That would make more sense. But

512
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: the idea that the NBA is like, come on in,

513
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 4: do your thing. Atlanta Hawks, I'm still shocked. One of

514
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 4: the owners, Rob g correct me. Isn't he one of

515
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 4: the Hawks owners?

516
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 3: He was hyperbody, But he's part he's a part of

517
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 3: Like he's the one who put together the documentary about

518
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: Magic City.

519
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: Like there's a connection between but that's but that's documentary

520
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 4: right now.

521
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 5: But it's a woman actually, Jamie Gertz, co owner, actress

522
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 5: and the film producer, is the one.

523
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 4: Who did the docus here. So that makes sense. If

524
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 4: you don't know who she is.

525
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 5: You ever seen the movie Twister, she plays the woman

526
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 5: that the guy leaves for Helen Hunt.

527
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 4: Well, that's too much math.

528
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 5: I'm saying you probably. I don't know if you've seen

529
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 5: any of her stuff, But she's involved in the documentary

530
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 5: produced it. There you go, and she's a part of

531
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 5: the hall. So I know the Hawks, I know Atlanta.

532
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 5: I'm talking larger NBA being connected to something. What if

533
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 5: something goes wrong.

534
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 4: Money. Look, I just I didn't think the NBA would

535
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 4: be tied to it again, Atlanta Hawks, I get Atlanta,

536
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: the city totally get makes sense like I meaning, I

537
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 4: know they would be and that's part of their communities.

538
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 4: And people go, people go for lunch, people go with

539
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 4: business suits on, people go at night. You know, shoot,

540
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: I read young g let me telling epic stories in there.

541
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 4: But let me tell.

542
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Speaker 3: You, you don't think the NBA when they saw that

543
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: it sold out in twenty four hours or whatever it was.

544
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 4: They might be going, do you know what I mean?

545
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 4: It turned around wink wink, we shouldn't be doing it. Nothing.

546
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 3: But but I think that that softens the blow. Would

547
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 3: you would you admit like like you have to agree

548
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 3: with no, no, no, But I'm just saying like they did.

549
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,239
Speaker 4: But then it's like, there aren't we didn't see these

550
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 4: stories of people.

551
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: Picking it outside the arena State Farm Arena saying we

552
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: don't want this in our time.

553
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? Don't disrespect Chili like that. Well,

554
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: Chili was out there. He was the only one. He

555
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 4: was out there. Dan Chili brought his fam and they

556
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 4: were out there. But you get my point, thought, Yeah,

557
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: it wasn't a fuss. I must I might shooting.

558
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 3: I got people down there to see any fuss, rob G,

559
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: did you see anything in Atlanta?

560
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 4: Like that's none. So but if there's an opposing player,

561
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 4: I'm just hiking with, well, in this case, we know

562
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: there's one, and course he's the only one that I

563
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 4: you know, like the game in which I'm playing is

564
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: associated with that, like I'm just coming in town arked

565
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 4: game that night this Monday, having to be Magicity.

566
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 5: So Jonathan Isaac it plays for the Rando playing. He

567
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 5: is aout Christian. He does speaking engagements, famously preach that

568
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 5: a local church and none of his teammate shut up

569
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 5: and that was a big deal. But I'm sure he's

570
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 5: not happy about it.

571
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 4: Okay, don't go he plays for the other team, all right,

572
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 4: he's not. I've actually shocked he has. It's early because

573
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 4: we got a couple of weeks, but I'll be he

574
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 4: definitely goes to speak up. He he goes speaking about everything.

575
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: So that's fine and everybody. You can't please everybody. The

576
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: bottom line is it's a part of that community. It

577
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 3: fits in. I'm not surprised it's sold out like it did.

578
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. The hoodies are going off, the off,

579
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: the shelves, I'm not any of that stuff doesn't surprise

580
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: me because it's a different place, this for Vegas, and

581
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: I wish I could go