1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It's our two on this Friday. Thanks for 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: joining us. In case you're wondering, Yes, it is a 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: meet Friday. We got barbecue baby back ribs on the Tregger. 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: We got baked green chili mac and cheese, baked cornbread 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: with honey butter. Who has it better than we do? Nobody. 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow sacked one time last night. The last time 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Burrow was sacked fewer than twice in a game Week 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: seven of last year, and that was in a big 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: win over the Ravens. Von Bell had a couple of interceptions. 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: The Bengal scored thirteen on any unanswered points in the 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, beating the Dolphins. As to a tongue of ioloa. 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Knocked out of this game, Teddy Bridgewater came in, but 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Cincinnati got through kind of a sluggish performance to win 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: it at home twenty seven to fifteen. The big story 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: not the Bengal win. It was, you know, to a 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: tongue of ioloa and the fallout from Sunday. Should he 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: have been playing last night? Played last night? Got the concussion? 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: Are the two connected? We don't know, but we certainly 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of questions here. Joe Burrow, the Bengals quarterback, 21 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: had this to say after he saw Tua go down 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: with the injury. It's always scary when somebody goes down 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: like that. You know, we play a dangerous game. We 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: know something like that can happen at any time, but 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: it's always scary when it does. You know. They told 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: me that he's flying back of the team, so that's 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: great news. Hopefully he can get a speed of recovery. 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to text him after the game see how 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: he's doing. Hopefully he can come back fast. Got an 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: email from Mike Ryan, sports medicine analyst for Sunday Night Football. 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: He said that Tua had the rigid arm hand posturing. 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: It's called a fencing response and involuntary upper extremities spauns 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: him from significant trauma to the brain. We'll talk to 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: Mike Florio from Pro Football talk about this. Rodney Harrison 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: will stop by. The former Patriot works on Football Night 36 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: in America, and next hour, Matt Leiner, at the Heisman 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Trophy winner, will join us as well. Seetan, do you 38 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: have a pole question for me? Yeah? Day, let me 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: update you from our one. We might roll it this 40 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: one again since it's such a big story. But what 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: happened on Sunday in the NFL the concussion protocol work? 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Did it fail? Did the team player lie? Or was 43 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: it bad luck? And timing? Right now, forty six percent 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: of the audience say the concussion protocol failed, and that's 45 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: followed by thirty nine percent of the audience saying the 46 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: team or the player lied. I don't want to point fingers. 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: It's so easy in this business to point fingers, But 48 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what the other options are. I'm just 49 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: trying to ask questions here. And I mentioned in the 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: first hour I probably took a parental angle with this. 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: Having met to his family, I'm having met to the 52 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: super Bowl in Miami, and I I just wondered, should 53 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: he have been out there last night, four days after 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: what happened, Whether he didn't have a concussion. I've been 55 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: told many, many times he didn't have a concussion. He 56 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: had something that led to that reaction, those symptoms, side effects, 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know if anybody really addressed that, like, 58 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: is that something that's reoccurring? Is it a one off? 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: Is it just a coincidence that last night he suffered concussion. 60 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: Once you have one concussion it you're more susceptible to 61 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: having another. I know it well. Steve Young told us 62 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: about that. Troy Yakman told us about that. Yeah, Seed, 63 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: That's one of the things that's so crazy about concussions 64 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: is you hear stories about you and somebody had just 65 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: tweeted this in the last week or so. I forget 66 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: exactly who it was, but like you know, I got 67 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: my bell rung during a game, cleared concussion protocol, flew 68 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: on the plane team home, landed at the airport, drove 69 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: myself back to, you know, my neighborhood, and then couldn't 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: find my house because I couldn't remember where I lived. 71 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Mike Florio wing us. Now the investigation over Tua re 72 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: entering Sunday's game becomes more important with what happened last night? 73 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: What do we know about Sunday, Mike, And then we 74 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: can get to last night well, and then we were 75 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: tracking all of this in real time on Sunday as 76 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: it was happening. When Tua came back into the game 77 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: to start the third quarter, a lot of people were 78 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: surprised because we saw what happened after his head hit 79 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: the turf in the game against the Bills. He got up, 80 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: he was wobbly. A teammate had to actually intervene and 81 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: hold him up. Now here's the issue, and the NFL 82 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: was very gracious. They responded to my initial email. They 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: sent me the concussion protocol. They answered some basic questions. 84 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: But when you look at the concussion protocol, there's a 85 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: major question that remains to this moment unanswered. And here's 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: how it goes. You mentioned the fencing posture. When a 87 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: player demonstrates the fencing posture, as Mike Ryan explained it, 88 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: they are immediately out for the game. It's a no go. 89 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: They can't come back under any circumstances. But for gross 90 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: motor instability, the wobbliness that we saw on Sunday, there's 91 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: a loophole. The team physician and the independent although not 92 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: really independent of the league, independent of the team. They 93 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: call it the unaffiliated neurotrauma consultant. Those two individuals working 94 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: together can clear the player if they determine that the 95 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: gross motor instability was not neurologically caused. So that's what 96 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: they did, and I've been trying to drill down on that. Hey, NFL, 97 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: why did they conclude that what we saw and you 98 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: know it when you see it, We saw it, and 99 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: we know it he was wobbly from hitting his head 100 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: on the ground. What did these two individuals do to 101 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that the gross motor instability we 102 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: all saw wasn't caused by a brain injury. That's it, 103 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: because that's the only way he gets back on the field. 104 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: And I think that's why the NFLPA launched the investigation. 105 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: That's the question that I can't get answered and needs 106 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: to be answered because Dan he should have been not 107 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: returned to the game. And then after the game, does 108 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: he get cleared to play by Thursday night if he's 109 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: in the concussion protocol? No, I don't know. I don't know, 110 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: but he never should have been back in that game. 111 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: So something I just posted a little while ago, they 112 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: need to close that loophole. Now. If you have gross 113 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 1: motor instability, just like the fencing posture, you're done. There's 114 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: no way back onto the field that game. That's something 115 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: they need to do right now, going into the games 116 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: this weekend, because we may be right back in this 117 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: situation with another quarterback or any other player comes Sunday, 118 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: afternoon or Sunday evening. If I gave you one question 119 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: to anybody in this what would be the question and 120 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: who would you ask it to? Well, see, I practiced law, 121 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: so I know how to take one question and turn 122 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: it into ten. There are subparts, Dan, to the question. 123 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: I actually just set a list of nine questions to 124 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: the NFL about Tua from Sunday. I'm also curious, was 125 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: he examined again after the game on Monday, on Tuesday, 126 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: on Wednesday? Or is it just hey, he's good to go, 127 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: he's back in the game. We're not going to revisit 128 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: this at all. But I'm curious about the unaffiliated neurotrauma 129 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: consultant because they recognize back in two thousand and nine 130 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: or so, we can't just rely on the team doctor 131 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: to make a reliable decision because the team doctor is 132 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: under the financial thumb of the team, and we've heard 133 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: about that for years. The doctors do what they have 134 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: to do to continue to be the team doctors. They'll 135 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: eventually find a doctor that gets their players back on 136 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: the field. But Dan, just because this other person isn't 137 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: affiliated with the team, they're still affiliated with the league. 138 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: And is it really in the league's best interests to 139 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: have the best players not available for the best games. 140 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: There's still a subtle bias there. It's one step removed 141 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: from working for the team, but the league still wants 142 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 1: the best players out there. The league wants maximum interest, 143 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: maximum eyeballs, maximum dollars. So I'm not so sure this 144 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: unaffiliated neurotrauma consultant is truly independent. And the question I 145 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: have are we at a point where there needs to 146 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: be someone who is truly disconnected from the NFL. And 147 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: they will hate that. They won't want it. They want 148 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: to control everything. But maybe we need somebody who's truly independent, 149 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: who looks out for the best interest of the players 150 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: and not the team or the broader league that wants 151 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: those players on the field. I mentioned this in the 152 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: first hour. Then I hope my audience is patient with 153 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: me because I'm repeating some of this. Is it just 154 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: a coincidence what happened on Sunday and what happened last 155 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: night that there's no connection between the two for two, well, 156 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: there's two different issues here. As you said earlier, when 157 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: you have one concussion, you're more susceptible to a second one. 158 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: That's one thing. As we talk about long term effects. 159 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: How many concussions does a person have, What does it 160 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: do to them from a cognitive standpoint when fifty sixty 161 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: seventy eight. The other issue is far more important, and 162 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: that is suffering a second concussion, a second head injury 163 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: in the immediate aftermath of suffering the first one. That's 164 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: how people die. That's why high school kids every year 165 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: somewhere between ten and fifteen they die because they had 166 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: a head injury that was undiagnosed and then they had 167 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: a second one, and the damage to the brain can 168 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: become exponential. With an impaired brain that gets injured again, 169 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: that's the real risk here, and that was the first 170 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: thing that I was concerned about. He had a concussion Sunday, 171 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: maybe he definitely has one. Now, well, if the one 172 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: on Sunday was a concussion and here's another one, he 173 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: can have a very serious, if not fatal outcome. And 174 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: that's the thing the NFL needs to be concerned about, 175 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: especially if the NFL tries to be the platinum standard 176 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: for all the lower levels of the sport to emulate, 177 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: and it really hasn't worked the way the NFL would like. 178 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: But the last thing, the NFL can have is a 179 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: serious outcome like that, or have head injury. Guys somehow 180 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: back in the game and has a second head injury 181 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: and has a serious outcome. So it's not just the 182 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: accumulation of concussions, it's what happens when you have a 183 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: second one not long after a first one. But you 184 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: know what happens, Mike, We've been doing this a long time. 185 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: It's a Friday, We're gonna go into college football. We're 186 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: gonna go right objects, Yeah, the NFL and Monday Night football, 187 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the Dolphins are off 188 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: for ten days. You know, Patrick Mahomes does something incredible 189 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: or Lamar Jackson, you know that. You know how this works. 190 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: We move on. Best time for the NFL to have 191 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: scandals is in season because there is an endless supply 192 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: of bright, shiny objects. You got Thursday, you got Sunday, 193 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: you got Monday, you got Thursday, you got Sunday, you 194 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: got Monday. And we do. We do. But this is 195 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: something that hopefully people will remain vigilant about, and I 196 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: think that that it will be a big deal, and 197 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: it should be a big deal because it defies common sense. 198 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: What we saw Sunday defies common sense and what we 199 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: saw Thursday night horrifiers. Even though he's fine, it still 200 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: was horrifying in the moment. And I think it's time 201 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: to take a step back and revisit the concussion protocol 202 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: and say is there a way to make it better? 203 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: Is there a way to make the players safer? And 204 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: one of the questions I have Dan, is there a 205 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: higher bar that needs to apply to players who are 206 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: playing on Thursday night? Whatever the injury, is there a 207 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: higher bar for clearing them because you've only got three 208 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: days to recover from any injury you may have experienced 209 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: on Sunday, concussion or anything else. Can you protect yourself 210 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: on a football field? Can you successfully get through that 211 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: game without being impaired by the injury you had on 212 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: Sunday when you're playing on a short week. Yet, we 213 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: accept that Thursday night football is here to stay, and 214 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: it is, but that doesn't mean there aren't ways to 215 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: improve how we protect the players who are expected to 216 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: play four days after they just finished the game. Thank you, Mike, 217 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: keep talking to you, Dan. Mike florya Pro Football Talk 218 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk Live that precedes our show on Peacock 219 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: Money through Friday. I was hoping for something from Richard 220 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: Sherman last night because when he played, he railed On 221 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Thursday night, Richard Sherman led the charge and Amazon missed 222 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: a great opportunity to really go all in on this. 223 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: At halftime, it almost felt like they were tiptoeing around it. Man, 224 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: you got to go back to Sunday. You got to 225 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: show the video. You got to talk about three four 226 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: days later, you're out there, got hurt. Should he have 227 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: been out there? You gotta have questions there. And I 228 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: know that the NFL is big brother here and you 229 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: got to be careful. You gotta sometimes tiptoe around things. 230 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: But they didn't cover the story until the end of 231 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: the game. And that's when Michael Smith, who's a journalist, 232 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: came in and kind of cleaned up the mess here. 233 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: I was hoping. I know Ryan Fitzpatrick knows Tuah and 234 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: and and you know it affected him. I need you 235 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: to do more than how it affects you. This is 236 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: this is about covering the story. You're not the story. 237 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: I know it's emotional. You got to push this out, 238 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: cover the story, and you got to ask some really 239 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: hard questions. And that is with the NFL. It's uncomfortable. 240 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: I've done it. I've done this with other leagues, with 241 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: other commissioners. I mentioned the commissioner hasn't been on this 242 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: show in over a decade. There's a reason for that. 243 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask the questions other commissioners have. They're 244 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: willing to sit there and let me ask them. The 245 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: NFL does answer our emails. I will say that their 246 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: PR department is wonderful, excellent, Thank you, toy. Yes, Bony. 247 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: Can you imagine in this morning in the NFL's office 248 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: when they start getting those emails from Florida, Oh my god, 249 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: and they know they it's almost worse if they don't 250 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: answer Florida, because then he'll go scorched earth. Yeah. Here 251 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: is the Dolphins head coach, Mike McDaniel on the concussion 252 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: for twa all of his teammates, myself, we're all very 253 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: very concerned. So the best news that we could get 254 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: is that everything is checked out, that he didn't have 255 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: any anything more serious than a concussion. Will be he'll 256 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: be flying back with us here on the plane. Just 257 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: a concussion. Okay, where did the point where it's just 258 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: a concussion? Yeah, just a concussion. Here is the concussion protocol. 259 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: Here's Mike McDaniel, the Dolphins head coach. If there's any 260 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: sort of inclination that someone has concussion, they go into 261 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: the concussion protocol. It's very strict. We don't mess with that, 262 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: never have it. As long as I'm the head coach, 263 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: that will never be. I'm an issue that you guys 264 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: have to worry about. Well, I don't know how important 265 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: it stays, but I want to do my part at 266 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: least asking the questions there with what I saw last night. 267 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: I'll leave it up to the journalist who have access 268 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: to the people in power there, the commissioner and some 269 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: of the other people here. But I just I can't 270 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: get out of my mind what happens Sunday when I'm 271 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: watching Any's stumbling and then I you know, it's reinforced. 272 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: It's not a concussion. Hey, cleared concussion protocol? What led 273 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: to that? Okay? No concussion. Is there something that's there 274 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: that's more serious that's going to continue to be there. 275 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: I've yet to hear that. Hey, you know, time's going 276 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: to have a back injury. It affects your head, Okay? 277 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: Is that going to continue to be there? Roddy Harrison 278 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: will join us, our buddy from Football Night in America 279 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: right after this Full Sale University five year anniversary Dan 280 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: Patrick's School to Sports Casting and seeing this program come 281 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: to life, grow from five students to over four hundred 282 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: students and getting you jobs. 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Be sure to catch us live 299 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine 300 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us 301 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live 302 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. Sunday night, Patrick Mahomes and the 303 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: Chiefs go to Tampa battling Tom Brady and the Buccaneers 304 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: Sunday seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock, part of NBC 305 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: Football Night in America. Roddey Harrison two times Super Bowl 306 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: champ with the Patriots, and maybe one day he'll get 307 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, or at least 308 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: be a finalist, because I think there's only two players 309 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: in NFL history have had at least thirty sacks and 310 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: thirty interceptions. One is Rodney Harrison. I think the other 311 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: one is Ray Lewis. Does that sound right, Paul? That 312 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: sounds right? All right? Springing Rodney Harrison, who joins us. Now, Rodney, 313 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: what's your question that you have today with what you 314 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: saw the last couple of days? With two a tongue 315 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: of by a law, Dan, I'll tell you, man, I 316 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: was at a football game. My son's football game last 317 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: night when I was watching it on my phone, and man, 318 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: my heart dropped when I saw that kid laying on 319 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: a football field and he was just frozen and his 320 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: hands were stuck like this. It scared the living crap 321 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: out of me. And I played in this game fifteen 322 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: years and I've had multiple multiple concussions where I hit somebody. 323 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: The stadium was spending I didn't know where I was at, 324 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: so that's considered a concussion, but nothing like that has 325 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: ever happened to me. And I don't know how you 326 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: come back on the football field after that happens to you. 327 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: We're talking about this kid's life. We're talking about my 328 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: self as well as so many other football players that 329 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: I know friends of mine had live here in Atlanta 330 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: that suffer from CTE, that suffer from depression, that suffer 331 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: from light sensitivity, that suffer and it affects their relationship 332 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: with their kids and their parents. This is something serious. 333 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: There's no way in the world this kid should go 334 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: back into football on a football fielder next week or so. 335 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: Then this is dead serious. Well, I go back to 336 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: Sunday Rodney and Okay, they told me it was a 337 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: back injury. But I mean, he certainly displayed symptoms of 338 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: having a concussion. He was out on his feet. So 339 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: what did you see as a former player if you 340 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: saw your teammate react like that, and how surprised would 341 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: you be that he was going to be able to 342 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: come back into a game. I would have been shocked. 343 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: And you talk about me, a guy that was very 344 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: physical flying around, and when I saw him, I just 345 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: thought it was a concussion. I said, man, get down, 346 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: get down, because it's a concussion. But then they said 347 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: it was a that problem. But the way he stumbled 348 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: it was to me it was more mental. It's more neurological. 349 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: So I don't know what they're doing, if they're doing 350 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: anything funny with this kid's life. But at the end 351 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: of the day, eventually, one day he's gonna walk away 352 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: from football and he's gonna have a life. He's gonna 353 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: have wife and kids, and he's gonna have to sustain 354 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: a normal life. And when you get hit hit upside 355 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: the head like that, and when you fall down and 356 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: when you're basically paralyzed for thirty seconds or whatever it was, 357 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna affect your quality of life later on. How 358 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: often would you lie when you got hurt every single time, 359 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: every single time, and you don't get to the level 360 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: of what two got to and accomplished the things that 361 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: he's accomplished in his career without lying, without basically saying no, 362 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: I'm good, no, I'm good, it's my bad. These players 363 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: are smart. They know if they say anything that's wrong 364 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: with their head, they know they're coming out the game. 365 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: They know they're gonna miss a series or two or 366 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: possibly the entire game. So the first thing they do, oh, 367 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: it's not my head, it's my back, it's my ankle, 368 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: it's my shoulder. And you know, I would have been 369 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: one of those guys too. But I just know sitting 370 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: here turning fifty this year that I'm looking at this 371 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: young man and said, man, he's got so much potential 372 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. He doesn't need to 373 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: be out on that football field like that. But he 374 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: might have lied to the medical staff and said that 375 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: it was his back. I mean, the player does play 376 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: a role. Drew Brees said he lied all the time 377 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 1: when he got hurt. You're saying that you lied all 378 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: the time, and you know what, you know what they 379 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: should do. They should start bringing former guys like me 380 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: and those guys that lie, bring them in there and 381 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: talk to the guys and talk to talk to them 382 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: about the quality of life that we have right now. Yeah, 383 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: we're doing okay financially things like that, but at the 384 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's more than just you know, money, 385 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: it's being able to communicate, being able to sustain relationships 386 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: and have friends and things like that. But I'm talking 387 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: to Rodney as a dad who's fifty years of age. 388 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: If I talk to he is a twenty four year old, 389 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna do what too. It did exactly. That's but 390 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: that's my whole point, Dan, That's why you need guys 391 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: like me, old school guys that used to lie, to 392 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: come in and say, hey, guys, you shouldn't be lying 393 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: about this. This is your life, this is your brain, 394 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: this is you know. That's what I'm saying. Okay, yeah, 395 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: but what was the protocol that did Do you ever 396 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: lie to Belichick and just say I'm good, I'm you know, 397 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: I'm staying in the game. Yeah all the time. And 398 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: I stayed in the game. And if I didn't have 399 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: anything major like an acl or pulled hamstring or growing 400 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: in something like that. There's no way you're taking me 401 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: out out of the football game. Because we're just wired 402 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: a certain way. We're wired to be able to go 403 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: out there hit. We know we're gonna be in a 404 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: little pain. They talk to you all the time about 405 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: toughness and your ability to, you know, stay in the game. 406 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 1: And that's what football players do. Man. You know, if 407 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: if it's if it's a head injury, we're staying in 408 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: the game. If it's something lord extremity that we can't control, 409 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: we're coming out the game. I tell this story all 410 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: the time that you know, a player said that he 411 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: got his bell rung. Heinz Warden. I've said his name before. 412 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: He you know, takes a hit against the Ravens. He 413 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: knows he's concussed. He grabs his ankle. He's smart enough 414 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: to know that I'm gonna grab my ankle and try 415 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: to stay in the game because I got hurt. My 416 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: bell is rung. And then he said he went to 417 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: the sidelines. They had to hide his helmet from him. Yeah, 418 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you this then, when you wake up 419 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: after all those years of playing over a decade in 420 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: National Football League, and now you're in your forties and you're, 421 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: you know, close to your fifties. You sit back and 422 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: you reflect on those moments that you know you didn't 423 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: come out the game, that you lie because it's affecting you. 424 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: Wake up and you're depressed. You wake up and you're sad, 425 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: and you're wake up and you're going through all these 426 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: different mental and emotional things. That's where it affects you 427 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: later on in life. And that's what that's my biggest 428 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: concern with these guys. But are you speaking from experience? Absolutely, 429 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: that's the only way I can speak. I can't speak 430 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: upon when you go through depression. We all go through depression. 431 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: Anytime you play football and you have CTE, Yeah, we 432 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: all go through a form of depression. But it's you know, 433 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: it's about how you take care of yourself. But yeah, 434 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: we go through a breverty of emotions and things like that. 435 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: That's why I say a lot of times when you 436 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: have CTE, when you're dealing with guys that have been concussed, 437 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: it's hard to maintain certain relationships, it's hard to establish 438 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: new relationships. A lot of times you don't even want 439 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: to go out the house. And that's my concern with 440 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: two and the rest of these guys their lifestyle when 441 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: they're done playing football, because think about it, if you're 442 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: fortunate enough, you play eight to ten years, and when 443 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: you turn thirty, you're concussed. You can't focus, you can't 444 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: do certain things. So that's my biggest concern with these guys, 445 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: letting them know, man, it's okay to set out a 446 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: game or two if you have to, to make sure 447 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: that your brain is taken care of and make sure 448 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: that you have the quality of life that you deserve. 449 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: Later on, it's Rodney Harrison Football in America analyst, former Patriot. 450 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: It'll be his former teammate Tom Brady battling Patrick Mahomes, 451 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers hosting the Chiefs on Sunday Night Football. Biggest 452 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: question going into that football game is what for you pressure? 453 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: You know, anytime you're going up against Tom, you've got 454 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: to get that pressure to tiior that defense. I look 455 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: at Kansas City and they have a bunch of pass rushes, 456 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlap and Chris Jones and all those guys, Frank Clark, 457 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: they got to get after Tom. If they can get 458 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: after Tom and Steve Spagnola, he's had success against Tom 459 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator beat him in the Super Bowl. He's 460 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: had success against Tom. If they can hit Tom and 461 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: rattle Tom, especially going against that inexperienced offensive line forced 462 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: him to communicate, show him a bunch of different looks, 463 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: I think they can have success. Do you think we 464 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: have addictions? You know, there's a lot of different addictions 465 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: we have, And I wonder is Brady addicted to football 466 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: or competition, Like, is it something that is more than 467 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: just I love doing this, I'm addicted to it. Well, 468 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys are like built like 469 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but a lot of guys couldn't do the 470 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: things that Tom did for such a long time because 471 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: Tom just has an extraordinary amount of discipline obviously, and 472 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: it's just tough to get to that level. I mean, 473 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: he's a quarterback. He sustained for a long time. Most 474 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: guys can't get to that point because, like I said, 475 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, we're trying to get there, but we get old. 476 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's there's definitely an addiction there. There's definitely 477 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: an obsession there with just being great and but also 478 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: there's a certain level of enjoyment, like going through the 479 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: week with your teammates and riding the plane with them 480 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: and getting on the bus and having certain conversations. Those 481 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: are the things that you really cherish and you embrace. 482 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: And you know, Tom's fortunate enough to play over twenty 483 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: years in this league he continues to do that. But yeah, 484 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: definitely an obsession. Dad, You got to be obsessed to be, 485 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: you know, to be on a level with Tom Brady. 486 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: How would you have dealt with Eirek Hill as a 487 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: defensive back? You know, probably just jam them at the 488 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, keep us safety on top of him. 489 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: But I look at Kansas City and they did the 490 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: right thing. I mean, everybody, why would you get rid 491 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: of Tyreek Hill? No, why would you pay a wide 492 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: receiver thirty million dollars a year. It's the dumbest thing. 493 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, I'm not paying you 494 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars a year. So it was a smart 495 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: move to let him walk and get these other guys. 496 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: These other guys, they're not great, Dan, but they're serviceable. 497 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: And that's why you pay Matt Patrick mahomes the type 498 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: of money you pay him so he can make these 499 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: other guys better. And I thought it was a smart 500 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: move getting rid of Tyreek. Yeah, you know, we look 501 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: at these quarterbacks and a lot of times these quarterbacks 502 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: make their receivers better. Tom certainly did that in New England. 503 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: I mean he had Gronk, who is a Hall of Famer, 504 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: But there are other guys who you know, were good receivers. 505 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: Tom made them, elevated them. It felt like Rogers maybe 506 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: does that a little bit. Now Mahomes is going to 507 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: have to do that in Kansas City. But can they 508 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: be a better offense without Tyreek Hill. I don't think 509 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: they could be a better offense, or a more dangerous offense, 510 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: or a more explosive offense. I think they're gonna be 511 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: a different offense. I think it's gonna require patients. It's 512 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: going to require continued communication and meetings and things like that. 513 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at Tyreek Hill when he gets 514 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: on the football field as a defense and as a 515 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, he scares you. He scares you. I don't 516 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: care if you have two guys on you, because how 517 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: many times, Dan, have we seen Patrick Mahomes throtleball fifty 518 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: yards down the field. You got two defensive backs and 519 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: Tyreek killed the smallest guy on the field. Comes up 520 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: with it and they don't have the ability like they 521 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: did before. For Tyree to catch a seven yard slant 522 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: and take his sixty yards to the house. That puts 523 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: the fear of God into people when you're out there 524 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: on that football field, and now you don't have to 525 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: deal with it. I mean, so, I don't think it 526 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: would become a more dangerous offense. I just think that 527 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be a different offense. But would you 528 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: rather go against a wide receiver who was an unbelievable 529 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: route runner, somebody who was big, physical, or somebody who 530 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: could just fly. Give me the receiver that gives you 531 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: the most trouble. To me, it's it's the guy that's 532 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: an excellent route runner that could put pressure on you 533 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: because you don't know if he's going deep, you don't 534 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: know if it's gonna be a comeback and out route, 535 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: a corner route. You don't know what he's running because 536 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: he's such an excellent route runner. I played against guys 537 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: like James Jet and really fast guys for the Raiders 538 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: that you know, we basically said, hey, we're gonna give 539 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: this guy any curl route, any short or any mediate route. 540 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: We can't allow him to beat us deep and as 541 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 1: far as Tyreek Hill, a guy like that, you just 542 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: gotta get your hands on him. You have to have 543 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: someone spy him and just keep somebody on top. And 544 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: every time that little joker catches the ball, you gotta 545 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: punish him. You gotta hit him. Damn, you gotta punish him. 546 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: You got to take that smile off his face. Okay, 547 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: But Calvin Johnson, how much trouble with Calvin Johnson. Calvin 548 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Johnson was a monster man. He was big, he was long, 549 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: and that's those fifty fifty balls. We talk about that. 550 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: And I feel bad for him, man, because he played 551 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: for such a crummy team for us such a long time, 552 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: and we don't realize how good he truly is. Yeah, 553 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: he's in the Hall of Fame, but people don't understand 554 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 1: how great of a football player this dude was. He 555 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: was big, super athletic, and he was a bully, but 556 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: he was a humble bully. But yeah, Calvin Johnson, all 557 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: props to him. Where does Rodney rank on the all 558 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: time playoff interception list? Career playoff interceptions, Rodney Harrison is 559 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: third all tied for third all time was seven. The 560 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: only people ahead of them are guys like Ed Reid, 561 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott, Willie Brown of Fame. Okay, Uster Hayes, Yeah, 562 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: you're good company there, Rod. Hey man, it's a Dan. 563 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: Let me tell you some brother. It happens when it happens, right, 564 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: Have you heard feedback on why you haven't been a 565 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: finalist for the Hall of Fame? Dan, I don't go 566 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: searching for that stuff. No, No, I didn't know if 567 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: like Peter King. Listen, listen to me, Peter King. It 568 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: doesn't even have my back and that was supposed to 569 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: be my home boy. Wait, he doesn't believe you're a 570 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I mean, he's never said anything to me, 571 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: and I've worked with him a long time. But it's 572 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: all good. I mean, I'm not I'm not worried about that. 573 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: I got a love for Peter King. Um. I mean, Dan, 574 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: it's one of those things I don't go searching for. 575 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: If it happens, it's gonna happen when it's supposed to happen. 576 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: If it's gonna happen, if not. A man, I got 577 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: my two Super Bowl rings, I'm able to take care 578 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: of my family and life is pretty good. But you 579 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: got Belichick who talks about how great you were, like 580 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: your name was first when he brought up great players 581 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,479 Speaker 1: who played for him. So, Dan, if you, Dan, if 582 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: you and the guys are sitting in the room, and 583 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: I've I've done all the things I can possibly do, 584 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, you know on a football field, what what 585 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: else can I do. I'm not gonna go around begging 586 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: and parading or anything like that. Man, I just if 587 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: it happens, fine, if it doesn't, I'm okay with it. 588 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: I know what I represented, I know the people that 589 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: I've impacted, and that's the most important thing for me. Well, 590 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: I think hinz Ward came out and he got feedback 591 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: as to why he's not in the Hall of Fame 592 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: that hines Ward always felt like he was a Hall 593 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: of famer. You played, he always felt I felt like 594 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: how hins Ward is definitely a Hall of Fame. You 595 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: talk about one of the toughest, one of the most 596 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: dependable guys that put fear in you's hines Ward. I 597 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: mean one of the most physical, of not the most 598 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: physical all time, Like, who's tougher than hines Ward? And 599 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: you know it's I'm not in that room, So I 600 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 1: don't know. I walk I go down into the Hall 601 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: of Fame game and I got fifty Hall of famers, 602 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, coming up to me. Oh man, you're gonna 603 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: be in a Hall of Fame. I've been talking about 604 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. And I'm looking at him like, 605 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: hey man, I just say, I'm just here enjoying myself. 606 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: You know. Everyone looks at me like I'm so desperate 607 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: to get in the Hall of Fame, and it's it's 608 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: just not the case. Who was dirty or you or 609 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: hinz word was my offense. He was my offensive twin. 610 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: Maybe we will go in together and then hit each 611 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: other on stage. That'd be great. Hey man. But I'm 612 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 1: gonna tell you this. The cool part about Hines and 613 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: our relationship. We were we would playing against each other 614 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: and I will jog on the field and I'm like, Hines, 615 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: what kind of day is gonna be? Man? What We're good? 616 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: Because if you did because if you give me a cheapshot, 617 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm coming for you both. I don't care for it 618 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: cost me a hundred grand, two under grand, I'm coming 619 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: for you. How much How much should the Jerry Rice 620 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: hit cost you? One hundred grand? It cost me a game? 621 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: Check back then, which was in the nineties. It was 622 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: about one hundred and twenty two thousand dollars and it 623 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: was worth it. Absolutely. You can't miss what you never had. 624 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: I've never had that money in my bank account, so 625 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: screw and I'm gonna not Jerry Rice head off. Jerry 626 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: is my man, but he's he's got to pay the price. Yeah, 627 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: game across. He paid the price. You paid the price. Absolutely. Hey, 628 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: great to talk to you again. My best to the 629 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: guys on Football Night in America. Thank you, Damn Fitz. 630 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: Good to see you, man. It's Rodney Harrison, NBC Football 631 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: Night in America and they got the Buccaneers and the Chiefs. 632 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: That'll be Sunday night. They started seven eastern. Take a break. 633 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: We'll get phone calls coming up, and I think we're 634 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: gonna hear from Matt Liner coming up next down. Fritzie's 635 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: working on that. We're back after the Thanks for listening 636 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 637 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six 638 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can 639 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream 640 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock app. Hey, what's Up everybody. 641 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: It's me, three time Pro Bowl Ofttle Barrington, and I 642 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: couldn't be more excited to announce a new podcast call 643 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: Up Point Game. What is up on Game? You asked, 644 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: along with my fellow pro bowler t J. Hushmansatta and 645 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right, Plexico Burrs. You can 646 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: only name a show with that type of talent on it. 647 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: Up on Game. We're going to be sharing our real 648 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen to Up on 649 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: Game with me LeVar Arrington, t J. Hudschman Zatta, and 650 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 651 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: you get your podcast from. Shoheo. Tony took a no 652 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: hitter into the eighth inning, extended as hitting Street to 653 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: fourteen games, longest active streak in baseball angels Beata's four two. 654 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: So oh Tony's currently third in the American League in 655 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: wins with fifteen, third in strikeouts fourth and e RA fourth, 656 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: and home runs six in RBIs That's why you know 657 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: people talk about is this the greatest season with Aaron 658 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: Judge that he played in meaningful games? Oh Tani doesn't 659 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: play in meaningful games, You got the baseball that maybe 660 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: it's not as lively as it once was. You got pitchers, 661 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: you got relief specialists. Everybody throws one hundred miles an hour. 662 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: Is that the greatest season of all time? Well? I 663 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: think it's just it's generational, like what you did, you know, 664 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: how you did it, when you did it, who you 665 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: did it against. All of those things are factored in. 666 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: And I know that we've attached an asterisk to certain seasons. 667 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: You know, Babe Ruth, he played where there was no integration. Okay, 668 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: absolutely when he set the home run record. Roger Marris 669 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: played when that was a year of the expansion and 670 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 1: he got to play in one hundred and sixty two games, 671 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: and Babe Ruth played in one fifty four. And then 672 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: you got Barry Bonds away, it's seventy three. Were they testing? 673 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: When did they start testing? Should it count? And my 674 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: point with all of this is it's whoever you deem 675 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: as your home run champ you can decide, because baseball 676 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: has kept it open that way that we're not quite 677 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: sure you think Bonds is fun? And I did hear 678 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: this yesterday, Hey, Babe Ruth, No, no integration there Roger 679 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: Marris played in a watered down American league. Okay, Barry 680 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 1: Bonds hit seventy three, so yeah, but Barry Bonds knowingly cheated. 681 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: Babe Ruth didn't cheat. Roger Maris didn't cheat. Barry Bonds 682 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: knowingly cheated. And that's the difference. You want to put 683 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: an asterisk or you want to say Barry Bonds, Hey, 684 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 1: Babe Ruth didn't have to deal with you know, African 685 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: American players or you know players from other countries. You're 686 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: right about that. Roger Marisa, you know when he was playing, 687 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: he played a short, right field, poor, all of those things. 688 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: But they didn't cheat. And that's what needs to be 689 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: pointed out here. Bonds did play who he played against, 690 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: that era, all of that, and he did cheat. So 691 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: put an asterisk by Babe Ruth and Roger Marris if 692 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: you want two for a single season. But there's one 693 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: by Bonds for cheating. There's one by Babe Ruth and 694 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: Roger Marris for different reasons. There college football this weekend, 695 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: give me five games that I need to focus. Okay, 696 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: first of all, there's a Friday night, a late night 697 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: game Washington number. They're fifteenth in the country, they're four 698 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 1: and o at UCLA, which is shockingly four. And oh 699 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: and hopefully they get some people to show tonight. That's 700 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 1: a late night game. Let's see Michigan at Iowa. Let's 701 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: be careful. Iowa likes to upset one one biggie a year. 702 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: Usually you got Kentucky Old Miss both undefeated. What else 703 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: is Alabama Arkansas? Might be tough? Line is seventeen points. 704 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: Here's a wonky line, Dan, I know you like those 705 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: Ohio State hosting Rutgers. They're giving Rutgers thirty nine and 706 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: a half, but the over unders fifty eight. Does that 707 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: mean they think Rutgers are gonna score a couple of 708 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: touchdowns there to chip in on the points. I'm good 709 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: at guess. Hard to picture, yeah, I'm good to guess, 710 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: so hard to picture Wake Force at four and oh, 711 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: Florida State wake getting a touchdown there? Four and NC 712 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: State ranked tenth. That's a high frenzy state. And they're 713 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: at Clemson also four. And now those are the biggies, Bills, Ravens, Jags, Eagles, Broncos, Raiders, 714 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,959 Speaker 1: Kansas City Buccaneers. Those seem to be the headliners there 715 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: for the NFL. And by the way Dan Patrick takes 716 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: to gamble. That podcast is available. I don't know what 717 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,479 Speaker 1: the guys Shay and Irving, bad Larry and Dylan picked 718 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: last night, but they did pick last night's games. We 719 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: tape that seg that show yesterday, but it's available for 720 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: games coming up this weekend college football and the NFL. 721 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: Yes point. We have a little bit of sound from 722 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: the podcast. Oh you do? Yeah, well, I mean, I 723 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: don't know if it's sound from it, but I feel 724 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 1: pretty good about my picks there it is. That's Dylan Dylan, 725 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 1: who is our graphics guy. It's a pretty good episode. Yeah, 726 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: almost winter gotta work or socks. That's funny is that 727 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: I do this impression and I go back in the 728 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: back room. I'm like, hey, what's up man to Dylan, 729 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: and we never mentioned that I do the It just 730 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: kind of hangs out here. Uh literally my favorite But 731 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: is it George in California? Yeah, y okay, yeah out 732 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: here in LA just just past the Golden Road Brewery. 733 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: Uh we you know, five five four Toleandro, thanks you. 734 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: Shout out to Leandreno Filler what achild listened to you 735 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: on the way to school as well? So, um, just 736 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: calling I'm actually a certified athletic trainer. You'll be about 737 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 1: twenty years next year, so I've got with some him, 738 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, concussions. Obviously not at that level I did, 739 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: we're pro baseball. But yeah, it's you know, unfortunately argued. 740 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 1: There's two sides to this because you know, like Rodney 741 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: was saying, you know, he could have just to it, 742 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: could have just kind of pudged his way through those 743 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: exams and kind of made you know, made himself feel 744 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: better and reach for the back and all that good stuff. 745 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: But then also with Florio talking about, hey man, there's impairment. 746 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: I mean, clearly to be able to commit that neural 747 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: that it was only his back, I mean, kudos to him. 748 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: But here's the problem. You know that that incident that 749 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: happened yesterday, clearly that's not uncommon to go into fencing 750 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: position when you're hit on the back of the head 751 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: like that. However, that was the same area he got 752 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: struck in four days before. So now we're talking about 753 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: second impact syndrome, which can lead to I mean, like 754 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: Floria was saying, man, that's where a lot of these 755 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: kids die from in uh, you know, on high school 756 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: and at that level, So you know it's all gonna 757 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: go back to that neural on Sunday. Uh. From that 758 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: point then you can have teams suing, you know, players 759 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: suing teams, teams play seeing, doctors doing the league. It's 760 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,919 Speaker 1: just you know how it is. It's lutigious and that's 761 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: how that's where we're at at this moment. And thank 762 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: you Orge. We're up against a breakcare. We got final 763 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: hour to go. We'll get to more phone calls and 764 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: batt Leiner, the Heisman Trophy winner at USC will join us. 765 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: Coming up. We got ribs on the girl. I went 766 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: out and inspected just to make sure that the ribs 767 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: look good. Very thoughtful. Yeah, they're called three two one 768 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: barbecue baby back ribs. I don't know what that means. Boy, 769 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: it's because I would have three and I may have two. 770 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,479 Speaker 1: I have one more to make sure. Final hour coming 771 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: up on this meet Friday, Dan Patrick, show one more 772 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: right and we close that hour two. The NFL Action 773 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: full swing after last night. Draftking Sports Book, an official 774 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of the NFL. Fucking touchdowns, big plays, 775 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 1: even bigger payouts at just five dollars on any NFL 776 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: team to win. And get two hundred dollars in free 777 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: bets if they do. 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