1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna just mop that action also. All right, here 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: we go. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 3: We're throwing in song spect. I'm sitting up to cash touchtop. 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 3: We see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 3: go to win. That's incredible. Being bank, small bank, I 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: like to make money. 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 4: All right, this is the ultimate kabine. 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: You want to pass. 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: And we are underway. Welcome into the Action Network podcast. 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 5: This is the NFL Roundtable for week six. Brendon Glass 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 5: she joined by two of our regular co hosts here 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 5: on the podcast, our director of Research and Media Evan Abrams, 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 5: our NFL analyst Brandon Anderson. We joined you Sunday night 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 5: Monday morning for the recap pods. So they said, put 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 5: these guys together again, give him, give them thirty six 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 5: hours to decompress, rest up, and fire out some more. 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 3: Takes from what we saw over the weekend. And also 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: look ahead to NFL Week six. 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 5: Now that we've had a chance Evan to gather our 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 5: thoughts and we'll get to Robert Sala in the Jets. 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: That is the news of the day. We'll get to 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: that in a bit. Biggest Week five takeaway. 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: For you is what I'm just talking about the Chiefs. 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 6: I don't think there's really anything else to talk about, 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 6: the way they're winning, how they're winning, how they're going 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 6: to be beaten at this point. Back to back super 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 6: Bowl start five and zero only been done one other 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 6: time in Super Bowl history. I believe it was like 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 6: the ninety two nine ers who started ten and her. 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,279 Speaker 6: They're winning in ways I don't think we thought they would. 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 6: They haven't lost since Christmas last year. I think Spags 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 6: makes them really really dangerous because Mahomes just doesn't have 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 6: to be more than just himself. And he wasn't even 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 6: really good this year, since I think he had like 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 6: six touchdowns and five picks before last night, and then 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 6: he doesn't throw a touchdown game last night, and they 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 6: I think he's seven to three now in his career 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 6: when he doesn't throw a touchdown pass. 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,919 Speaker 2: Uh. Just you can. 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 6: Continue to go on and on, but I think even 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 6: looking at their schedule, this just this is about Kansas City. 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 6: This is about how someone is going to end up 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 6: beating them in all the different types of styles they play. 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 6: And also probably do they add another piece? 46 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: Uh? 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 6: And how does that look considering they they're down to 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 6: almost zero weapons and they continue to win games. I 49 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 6: will say this after the bye at San Francisco at 50 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 6: Vegas and then Monday night football against Tampa at home, 51 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 6: So see how it continues. At San Francisco game should 52 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 6: be interesting, but they've got some extra rest, which what 53 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 6: should be nice. 54 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 5: I think that was their most complete win of the 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 5: year or that you sho You saw flashes of all 57 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 5: the things they could do, and they still turned it 58 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 5: over in the red zone. They made several trips to 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 5: the red zone, chunk plays. Wise Worthy is only going 60 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 5: to get better. Kel's while he hasn't scored yet, was 61 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 5: a factor in that first half. Brandon, what is it 62 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 5: for you take away from week five now that you've 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 5: had a chance to let some things digest. 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right to go to the super Bowl. 65 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: I think you got the wrong team. I think the 66 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers might miss the playoffs. That's 67 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: my takeaway from week five. I think the forty nine 68 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: ers are in serious doubt of making the playoffs. 69 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 4: They're two and three. 70 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: They are for me, about a coin flip right now, 71 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: make it or miss for the playoffs, and that is crazy. 72 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: We did not think that about this team coming to 73 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: the season with all those weapons they have, with all 74 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: the talent. Frankly, with the results we've seen in the field, 75 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: like forget the scoreboard, just look at the numbers, look 76 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: at the underlying metrics. 77 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: This should be a playoff team. This is a pretty 78 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 4: good team. 79 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: They're not quite the juggernaut they were a year ago, 80 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: but they're still top ten DVA team. The offense and 81 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: defense are still both looking pretty good. But three times 82 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: now they have given away I think a game that 83 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: they should have won. They definitely should have beat the 84 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals this week. They should have beat the Rams up 85 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: double digit. It's in the fourth quarter. Both games all 86 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: one two in the division. That's not a great place 87 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: to be for San Francisco. Two games they should have won. 88 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: They beat the Patriots. Horay, that's the easiest game of 89 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: the schedule, Like this was the soft part of the 90 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: schedule so far. You're supposed to beat the Rams and 91 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Frankly, they probably should beat the Vikings. They 92 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: had a big swing play there that game. I think 93 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: they were maybe slightly the better team. I wrote today 94 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: My futures article up this week is a pulse check. 95 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: Who are the team's sub five hundred that still have 96 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: a pulse. Who's out there and who doesn't have a pulse. 97 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: That forty niners certainly have a pulse. I think they 98 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: are in much worse shape medically speaking than we are 99 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: giving credit for Right now. Here's a schedule coming up. 100 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: They go Seattle in Seattle this Thursday. That's a tough one. 101 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: We talked about that one already. Both teams badly need it. 102 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: Like you said, Evan, the Chiefs next week coming off 103 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: their bye week. Cowboys always a tough one. Not not 104 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: as much for San fran but you never know. At 105 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: Tampa again, at Green Bay, at Buffalo. These are not 106 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: easy games, like there's no easy spot on the schedule. 107 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: Even late in the season. 108 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: Still pretty tough Chicago after Caleb Williams has had some 109 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: time to settle in the Rams, after they've gotten healthy 110 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: and get their receivers back. At Miami, all right, Well 111 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: it's in Miami late in the season, and maybe two 112 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: US back by then. The Lion's still waiting. In the 113 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: week seventeen, there's not an easy game left on the 114 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: schedule for the forty nine ers. I think this looks 115 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: like maybe an eight or a nine win team right now. 116 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: I think you have to be looking at ways to 117 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: fade the Niners and possibly to miss the playoffs. 118 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: Is there anything that you can target. 119 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: Right now to put you on the spot or yeah, 120 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: so they're plus one point fifty to miss the playoffs. 121 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: I do think that there's a slight edge there on 122 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: the numbers. Again, if I think it's a coin flip, 123 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: then obviously anything north of plus one hundred is a 124 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: way to do it. I think the way you have 125 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: to consider directly is how do you feel about Thursday night? 126 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: We talked about this Thursday night in Seattle. If you 127 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: like Seattle, and you know I've been a Seattle guy 128 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: all season long. If you like them, Seattle is still 129 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: plus two for you to win the division. Seattle beat 130 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: San Francisco, the forty nine ersgozer three in the division. 131 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Seattle is in the driver's seat from there forward if 132 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: you like them at home. If you don't like them, 133 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: I think you maybe have to wait and you wait 134 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: a week and see where it goes. 135 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: Because the direct way to fade. 136 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: San fran is not winning the division, and the best 137 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: way to bet the division is a Seattle home game 138 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: to put them in fairly like they could be two 139 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: and four facing the Chiefs after that, like you're two 140 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: and five on the Super Bowl rematch, you lose them 141 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: a homes now what? So I think that's the direct way, Evan, 142 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: What do you think. 143 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: I was gonna say? 144 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 6: An interesting target would be I guess their live win total, 145 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 6: like in season is nine and a half. But I 146 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 6: say to myself, why take under nine and a half 147 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 6: and why not just like fade them game to game 148 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 6: as assuming they're just going to be bigger favorites in 149 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 6: some of these and every time they lose, the public 150 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 6: will think they'll win the next week. So there's probably 151 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 6: more about you and that. I just found that interesting 152 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 6: that you did say eight or nine. It's basically sitting there, 153 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 6: But I feel like the week to week is more 154 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 6: valuable to us. 155 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: Well, and speaking of valuable to another kind of takeaway 156 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: with the Niners thing. Just to wrap this up here, 157 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: So we talked a lot about brock Party last year. 158 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: Guys know that was my I had a the fifty 159 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: to one MVP ticket. It was he was the favorite 160 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: for one sparkling week and then Christmas happened and it 161 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: all went bad. Here's the thing, Brock Party. I think 162 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: it's playing better football this year than he did last year. 163 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: I think Brock Party is more valuable to the forty 164 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: nine ers this year than he was last year. Here's 165 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: the problem. When brock Purty is more valuable to forty 166 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: nine ers, rock Purty is less valuable relative to the 167 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: rest of the league. And that's why the forty nine 168 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: ers are losing now. They need Brock Party to be 169 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: less valuable to them. 170 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 5: Okay, I see where you're going. Let that sink in 171 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 5: for a second, folks. 172 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: So okay, take that one. 173 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. It got me thinking for it for 174 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: a second. 175 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 5: Dogs of six plus continue their domination unobated with the 176 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: trends reversed. Well, the trends reverse themselves in Week six 177 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 5: Oral every game post open and close at three or 178 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 5: three and a half. Now the Tube six point underdogs 179 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 5: this week are the Patriots. They are getting seven at 180 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 5: home against the Texans. The command pardon me, there's a 181 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 5: third one. The Commanders are getting six and a half 182 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 5: at Baltimore, and the Falcons are part of me. The 183 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 5: Panthers are six and a half point home dogs against 184 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 5: the Atlanta Falcons. 185 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 6: Evan, Yeah, I had originally said Tampa Bay just in 186 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 6: generalized like an underdog. They are no longer dogs based 187 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 6: off of what happened last night with Derek Carr. They're 188 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 6: now road favorite. So toss that out the window. I'll 189 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 6: say Carolina, And that also works with the six pointer, 190 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 6: So not only do we get the dog, when we 191 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 6: get the big dog with this trend, Atlanta coming off 192 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 6: the emotional game, I don't care if they have additional rest. 193 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 6: Carolina looked terrible against Chicago. They won't look that bad again. 194 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 6: We know Dalton's better than Bryce. There's all sorts of 195 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 6: different things we've seen positive at Carolina's offense. 196 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: Six is just a little bit much at. 197 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: Home, Brandon, Yeah, I mean, I think all trends are 198 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: trends until they're not anymore, right, So I don't want 199 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: to be careful about too much into this on you know, 200 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: the six plus dogs, Like it's a small sample, it's 201 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: going to even out. That's how these things go over time. 202 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: Looking at these teams, I think the one I've got 203 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: my own right now, the Patriots seven points at home 204 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: against the Texans, I think it's just a little too much. 205 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: I know, I just bet against the Texans with the 206 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Bills last week. It did not go well for me. 207 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: I still don't think the Texans measure up to their 208 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: four to one record right now. 209 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 4: I still don't. 210 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: Feel like they they're being treated at this point like 211 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: they were before the season, and they have been much 212 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: worse on paper and much worse in actuality than they 213 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: look before the season. The offense is not move the 214 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: ball that well. It's a lot of first and ten 215 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: second and ten third and ten Oh Sieges. Stroud did 216 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: the thing again, so you know, c just Stroud's pretty good. 217 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Maybe he'll just keep doing the thing. But history says 218 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: over time you don't always do the thing. When you're 219 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: not successful moving the ball and moving the chains, that 220 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: stuff evens out. Yeah, we're going to talk about ugly 221 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: unders a little bit later on as well. I think 222 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,119 Speaker 1: if you like the Patriots on that one, you probably 223 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: like the Patriots and the under. So that's maybe a 224 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: double play there, because you certainly don't want the Patriots 225 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: having to win a shootout against a pretty good Texans defense. 226 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: You've got to hope that the Texans offense doesn't show. 227 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: That's probably the one I'd be looking at. To me, 228 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: that's kind of a trap game for Houston to maybe 229 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: overlook a little bit coming off the big buffalo in CJ. 230 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 5: Stroud made his uh not his official debut, but he 231 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 5: preseason at New England last year and the Patriots sandwiched 232 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 5: him a couple of times. 233 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: Was not good in that game. Throw a pick, That's 234 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: what I think. 235 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 5: Folks were questioning if the pick would work for Houston, 236 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 5: and of course we found out it. 237 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 4: Did so very good. 238 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: No Nico Collins, That's a good point. I definitely should 239 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: have said there. Like I think Nico has been as 240 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: good as any receiver in the NFL so far this season. 241 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: Losing him is a big deal. It's no mistake that 242 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: Houston dominated the first half with Nico and then when 243 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: he was out, barely scored in the second half until 244 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen decided to make sure they scored at the 245 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: end of the game. 246 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: But no Nico is a big. 247 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Loss, you know, against Patriots secondary that could be otherwise beatable. 248 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: So Stefan Digsy's and now let's see how that trade 249 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: comes through for them. 250 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 5: Shout out two our Action Network colleague Sean Zarillo, who 251 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 5: had another great year in baseball, finishing the MLB regular 252 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 5: season up more than twenty five units, and with Action 253 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 5: Pro you get instant notifications every time Zarillo or any 254 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 5: of our action experts make a pick in the Action app. 255 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 5: Just visit actionnetwork dot com slash Pro and use the 256 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 5: promo code October for fifteen percent off an Action Pro subscription. 257 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 5: That's fifteen percent off at actionnetwork dot com slash. 258 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: Pro with the promo code October. 259 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 5: And be sure to check out Sean every week talking 260 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 5: MLB playoffs. 261 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 3: On the Payoff Pitch podcast. 262 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 5: Team in the NFC North has a winning record right now. 263 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 5: So I think folks were wondering, and we talked about 264 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 5: this on Sunday night, that we can't figure out the 265 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 5: NFC West. I mean, Brandon's talked about Seattle. Now he's 266 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 5: talking about maybe the Niners going under nine wins. The 267 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 5: Rams are banged up, Cardinals are. 268 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: Better than they think we expected. 269 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 5: I think Evan, you shared some love with the Cardinals 270 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 5: trying and both of you are like still trying to 271 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 5: figure this team out. But the Cardinals are still a 272 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 5: developing story, but they're in it. But the NFC North 273 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 5: Vikings of course have impressed. Bears back on track Packers 274 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 5: squeeze out a tough victory, and then you've get the Lions, 275 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 5: who ends up on. 276 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: The outside looking in or finishing with the losing record. 277 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 6: Evan I wanted to say nobody and just said that 278 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 6: this division was going to figure out somehow to all 279 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 6: finish above five hundred, even if just a game, just 280 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 6: because there really is reasons for that all over the board, 281 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 6: Like they're all talented, they all are better than most 282 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 6: of the teams in the NFC. 283 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: I can see it happening. 284 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 6: I have to look at the math to see, you know, 285 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 6: the possibility actually, since they do face each. 286 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: Other a bunch. 287 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 6: When you just look at live wind totals and kind 288 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 6: of where we are now, Chicago is at the bottom 289 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 6: in terms of where their win total is sitting for 290 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 6: the remainder of the season, I would probably say Chicago 291 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 6: is the answer. 292 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: They do have the toughest remaining schedule. 293 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 6: Second toughest remainning schedule is the Lions, and fifth is 294 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 6: Green Bay. So it's just the fact that their division 295 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 6: is that damn good. But I still think Chicago's probably 296 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 6: the one looking out just because I feel like there's 297 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 6: gonna be more ups and downs. I think Green Bay 298 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 6: kind of went through their downs maybe, and they won 299 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 6: those games. And then you look at Minnesota live win totals, 300 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 6: there is a twelve and a half. God, I want 301 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 6: to take that under, but they're already five and zero, 302 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 6: so it's hard to want to fade them more than 303 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 6: just be like, okay, let's go under twelve and a half. 304 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 6: They're still probably going to figure out a way to 305 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,479 Speaker 6: make the playoffs, and you know, at least top two divisions. 306 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: So I would say Chicago. 307 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: Bears live win totals at seven and a half, juice 308 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: to the over at minus one sixty. 309 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 5: Brandon, how about you who ends up on the outside 310 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 5: looking in the NFC North or finishing with a losing. 311 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: Record, Yeah, it's gotta be Chicago here. I think a 312 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: key note just on this question in general. We've only 313 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: had one division game so far in the NFC North, 314 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: so that's all still coming, and we're gonna start racking 315 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: up losses in a hurry when we get there. It 316 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: doesn't give you losing records, it gives you five hundreds. 317 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: But the losses have to come with the wins. 318 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: There. 319 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: The Bears so far have beaten hould your breath here, 320 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: the Titans, the Rams and the Panthers. 321 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: Hooray for the Bears being three and two like they 322 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: shouldn't be in the Titans. 323 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: We knew that from week one. That was a complete 324 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: luck box win. They did fine against the Rams. That 325 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: game could have gone either way. They clearly won the 326 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Bryce Young Bowl against the Panthers. There's a lot of 327 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams talk this week, a lot of tweets out 328 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: there of you know, the charts of Caleb Williams stats 329 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: going up, hoop up each game week one through five. Okay, 330 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: line up the defensive metrics for the same five teams 331 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: over that span. There's a reason Williams is getting a 332 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: lot better. He is getting better, for sure. You play 333 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: the Titans to start the season, you play the Texans, 334 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: good defenses. Now you get to play the Rams and 335 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: the Panthers. I hope you're better. You should be better. 336 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: You're playing the Rams and the Panthers. So Chicago goes 337 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: to London now for the Jaguars, their favorites there. I 338 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: don't know Chicago is the better team than Jacksonville, but 339 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: it's in London. 340 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 4: It's weird. 341 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: I never like to bet on those sort of games 342 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: they still face on their schedule. All six division games. 343 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: Jas an underdog in all six games in all likelihood, 344 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: as they should be, and they have San fran and Seattle, 345 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: and they have Washington. They're easy fourth place game. That's 346 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: not an easy fourth place game anymore. I think this 347 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: is a team you want to bet the win till 348 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: under on. If you like them against Jacksonville this week, 349 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: wait a week and then take it. I wrote about 350 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: the two and two teams last week in my oracle 351 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: and had the Bears second to last. They're three and two. 352 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: Now I want to fade the team. I just wanted 353 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: to wait out this cure on a Jacksonville stretch. But 354 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: I think the reckoning is coming. I think the seven 355 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: and a half is probably about where they end up, 356 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: but hopefully, ideally for me, I skip. 357 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: Out in the London game. 358 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: They beat Jacksonville and go to four and two, then 359 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: we play the under. That's the outcome that I prefer 360 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: here the one. 361 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 6: Also, the win totals eight and a half at one 362 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 6: book eight and a half, I kind of like under 363 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 6: eight and a half. 364 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: Okay, very good. 365 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: NFC northoff to a good start despite McCarthy preseason injury. 366 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 5: Jordan Love gets hurt, who else and then yeah, I 367 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 5: mean turbulence early with Caleb Williams, who is, by the way, 368 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 5: plus three hundred to win Offensive Rookie of the Year. 369 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 5: Jayden Daniels, You're deserving favorite right now. I think Daniel 370 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 5: should be even bigger of a favorite. I think that's 371 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 5: that's a sucker bet to get people to come back. 372 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: In on Williams. That's just my take. 373 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 5: Robert Sala was fired moments before we started this record, 374 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 5: about an hour or so before we started recording. Second 375 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 5: high name on the board for the first coach fired 376 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 5: behind Doug Peterson. Dennis Allen was also in the mix there. 377 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 5: Saints head coach who we saw last night just was 378 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 5: not creative at all in his game plan against Kansas City. 379 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 5: It'll be defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich. I hope you're pronouncing 380 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 5: his name right, Jeff Ulbrich as the interim head coach 381 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 5: in New York. 382 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: Shout out Joe Gallant. 383 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 5: Who we have not had on the roundtable yet, but 384 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 5: Joe gave us out on our Exotics pod in the preseason. 385 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 5: Robert Sala plus nine hundred to be the first coach fired. 386 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 5: Evan Abrams, your takeaway from this very new news. 387 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 6: I think we had two tickets on Sala in the preseason. 388 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 6: It's doing coach of the Year and to be fired first, 389 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 6: and one of them had to hit and they did 390 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 6: so it was fantastic just looking at I guess all right, 391 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 6: So there's a few ways to look at this. Initially, 392 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 6: off the bat, a coach gets fired is usually a 393 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 6: good thing for a team. It's a small percentage jump, 394 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 6: but it as a jump. The data says thirty eight 395 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 6: teams fired in season since two thousand and three, twenty 396 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 6: two and sixteen against the spread in their next game. 397 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 6: You'd be like, Okay, small sample there, except for the 398 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 6: fact they're thirty seven percent against the spread entering those 399 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 6: games those teams, so it is. 400 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: A decent jump. 401 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 6: So you'd be potentially looking at the Jets plus three 402 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 6: against Buffalo this week, which I think is a good side. 403 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 6: I would like it myself a little bit of a 404 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 6: jump there, and I'm not really big on Buffalo, even 405 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 6: though coming off a loss, I think going forward you 406 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 6: would probably look at it as a bit of a 407 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 6: dead cat bounce, which is the fact that you might 408 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 6: see a jump this week, and then you'll probably see 409 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 6: the Jets kind of go back to what they were. 410 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 6: Rogers doesn't look right to me. Maybe they had DeVante 411 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 6: and things look different, but he looks very old in 412 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 6: the pocket. Nothing's really going downfield very much. I don't 413 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 6: see a positive there, and he just fired a defensive 414 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 6: head coach. I don't know how that's gonna help the 415 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 6: offensive side of the ball. I will say this fifth 416 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 6: easiest schedule the rest of the way kind of nice. 417 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 6: But you look directly at their schedule, and I've always 418 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 6: thought that with teams it's a bit messy. 419 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 2: It's not all at one o'clock. 420 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 6: I think the Texans last year played like sixteen of 421 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 6: seventeen games in that one pm window. It's nice to 422 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 6: have that consistency. The Jets are Monday night, Sunday night, 423 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 6: at New England, Thursday night. You get the point, and 424 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 6: it's been like that the whole way of the season 425 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 6: because of their popularity. I just don't think it helps them. 426 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 6: So that's my assessment. 427 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 5: Win total eight and a half. Look, Brandon, look at 428 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 5: all those marquee games. To get Aaron Rodgers back in 429 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 5: the MVP discussion, he'll overcome the coach being fired. 430 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: Does this fix forget the MVP thing. 431 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: You're you're high on the Jets though, all toogether, and 432 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 5: we cautioned you that the coaching could get in the way. 433 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 5: Now Hacket's still there, sala is gone. Does this fix anything? 434 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 5: And does it fix your soul? And how you feel 435 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 5: about the Jets going forward? 436 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, you said the magic word, Hackett. I could not 437 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: have refreshed my Twitter timeline more this morning with ah 438 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: the Robert sala news and I was like, Nathaniel Hackett, 439 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, is he fired? 440 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 4: Is he fired? Please? 441 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: God? 442 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: Is he not the interim coach? Please tell me he's 443 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: not the interim coach. We didn't get the interim coach there, 444 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: but he apparently is still around. Call him plays. I 445 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: guess Cazaron Rodgers is doing everything over there for this team, so. 446 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: Of course, why would get rid of his buddy. Dame 447 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 4: Hacket's the problem. 448 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: Robert Solo is not a great coach anyways, as far 449 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: as the head coach responsibility is great. With the defense, 450 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: Jeff Oulbrich will be fine. With the defense, They'll still 451 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: be really good. I had the words dead cat bounce 452 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: here in my notes as well. Definitely unlucky for Buffalo. 453 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: They're coming off two losses and now you get this 454 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: kind of tough spot in New York Monday night, like that, 455 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: that's not a great bounce. 456 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 4: For the Buffalo here. I think actually two things. 457 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: Number one, I like that we're all wearing black today, 458 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: like we came for the funeral, So I think this 459 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: is the funeral for Robert Sala. I'm not sure it's 460 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: not still the funeral for the Jets. Like, I just 461 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: feel like I was wrong on this team. The Rodgers 462 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: MVP was as much a narrative plus team play as anything. 463 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: He was never gonna have these like crazy stats. It 464 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: was always going to be Rogers wins in New York. 465 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: That's the angle. At two and three, I want to 466 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: tweet out the Undertaker gift right of like we're back, 467 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: We're back in play. I think that our ticket that 468 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: I was ready to rip up is back. But I'm 469 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: not ready to go buy more Aaron Rodgers stock at 470 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: this point. I do think he has played fine. I 471 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: don't think he's played great. I don't think he's been 472 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: an MVP. I don't think Aaron Rodgers has been the 473 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: problem the offense. The scheme has not helped to head 474 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: coaching has not helped. The lack of weapons and creativity 475 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: there has not help. That's not an excuse for Rogers. 476 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: He needs to be better too, that's what they're paying 477 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: him to do. That's on the quarterback. I think he's 478 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: still there. The limitations he has, but the throws. He 479 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: can make any real offense with some real weapons and 480 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: some better scheming. Like again we talked with Sunday Minnesota. 481 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: If you switch the quarterbacks Aaron Rodgers WI be five 482 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: to zero Minnesota also, and he'd be hitting these wide 483 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: open receivers getting schemed up. He's not getting those. He's 484 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: throwing these three yard quick checkdowns sort of passes instead. 485 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: That just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. 486 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: So last thing here to me. We mentioned this briefly 487 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: on Sunday, Robert Sala Jets. They're playing the Bills. If 488 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: the Jets win that game, New York is tied for 489 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: the division lead. Even after the start, Miami is two 490 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: and three. Miami has had a disaster start. Miami is 491 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: terrible in every metric. But they have a bye week. Now, 492 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: they have two pretty easy games against the Colts and 493 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, and then Tua comes back. This might secretly 494 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: be Miami News like this might be a Miami undertaker 495 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: gift as well. I wrote them, and the polls check too. 496 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that they are dead and buried as 497 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: much as we make them. 498 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 5: Right now, Miami Dolphins plus six hundred to come out 499 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 5: of the AFC East. Interesting, interesting undertaker gifts across the board. 500 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: But it might be the Dolphins. Okay, we do this 501 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: basically every week. 502 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 5: We do this now on roundtable, which is if you're 503 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 5: new to the program, it's our group therapy session. And Evan, 504 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought up the against the spread numbers 505 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 5: with teams after the coach gets fired. I totally forgot 506 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 5: you kept that data because I didn't think it was 507 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 5: going to happen this soon in the NFL or week six, 508 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 5: it's still it's not snowing out yet and it's not 509 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 5: that cold, and yet we're talking about a coach getting 510 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 5: fired already. 511 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm fair those owners hate losing in London. 512 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 6: It seems I think it's like the third time that's 513 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 6: happened that those long flights back. Yeah, not great. 514 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 5: So this next segment we do this every week, which 515 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 5: low under do we like best? Houston New England at 516 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 5: thirty seven and a half, Pittsburgh Vegas thirty six and 517 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 5: a half, and Brandon gave this out on the Recap 518 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 5: Pod on Sunday Night, Myday Morning. Chargers Broncos is already 519 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 5: town two more points to thirty five and a half. 520 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 3: Evan, any of those that you like right now. 521 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 6: I'll say I kind of like all of them, except 522 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 6: for Pittsburgh Vegas. I somehow just believe that thirty six 523 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 6: and a half will get eclipsed because one side of 524 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 6: the field, well, they both turn it over a lot, 525 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 6: no matter who's a quarterback for the Raiders, I'm not 526 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 6: trusting of. And the last two or three weeks Fields 527 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 6: has had at least one oh my god play, which 528 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 6: you assume will happen against that Vegas team, So I'm 529 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 6: a little scared of that one. I would say either 530 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 6: of those other totals would be good for me. Maybe 531 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 6: I like Chargers Denver better, but no Nico. The way 532 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 6: New England plays, the kind of rut I would say 533 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 6: Stroud is in thirty seven and a half seems good to me, 534 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 6: and Denver unders at home, plus the buye with Harbaugh 535 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 6: and the running scheme he's going with they're just you know, 536 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 6: lack of possessions, lack of offense. Both those under's fault, right, Brandon, 537 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 6: Is there. 538 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 5: A cutoff point on playing the Under and Chargers Broncos. 539 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: I mean there isn't. 540 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: There isn't Like, hopefully you played the hot Read and 541 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: got the thirty seven. That's the last key number going down. 542 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: So that's part of why we grab the hot Read. 543 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: But as we've said, when we do these ugly unders 544 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: on the Best Bets episode, once you go this low, 545 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: you can't go low enough, like the numbers can't go 546 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: down low enough for the books to set it. We 547 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: had our mind shaft hit last week. We talked about 548 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: that with the Chargers Broncos under. Obviously, if we think 549 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: it can go thirty and under, then we still like 550 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: it at thirty five and a below. So I don't 551 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: know you need to rush and play anymore. Maybe you 552 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: wait and we get a little bit of a buyback. 553 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: On the other side, you might get it back to 554 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: thirty six, thirty six and a half still and thirty 555 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: seven is gone. Texans Under we talked about that with 556 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots. I think if you like that under, playing 557 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: the Patriots down a touchdown there. It's touchdown's worth a 558 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: lot if it goes under thirty seven. Pittsburgh Vegas is 559 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: a classic Brandon Bett. Right, We've been taking the Tomlin 560 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: Road unders all season. It's indoors, indoor numbers. When they're 561 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: this low, you've got to be careful with. And it's 562 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: thirty six and a half. You missed the key number there. 563 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: I think that's a wait for me. Like, I don't 564 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: love a lot of scoring there, but I think unless 565 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: we get to thirty seven, I can't be playing that 566 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: one just yet. You know, give me like a forty, 567 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: I'd be all over it. But yeah, you got to 568 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: watch the numbers on these two. 569 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what worries me about the Patriots spot. I 570 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 5: know the game is at home for them, but when 571 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 5: they played the Jets Thursday night, that number ended up going. 572 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 3: Did that game go over? Maybe it didn't go over 573 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: now that I think about it. Jets Patriots, it goes 574 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 3: under Jets. 575 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 5: Patriots did go under Jets, Patriots at Jets, but everybody. 576 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 4: Forgot to score that game. 577 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's carding. 578 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 5: That's that's when Aaron, Rodgers and robertsall looked like a 579 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 5: great match, and Rogers MVP was a thing. 580 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 4: We had a good night. 581 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 3: Twenty four to three my fault, yeah, good, twenty seven points. Yeah, 582 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: the Jets had a good night. Offensively, Patriots did not. 583 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 3: This one's fun. I like this topic. 584 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 5: Picked the same city MLB NFL combo. You like the 585 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 5: best MLB postseason rolling on that National league side. We 586 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 5: did payoff Pitch this morning. Check out Payoff Pitch Action Networks, 587 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 5: MLB Betting podcast with myself, Sean Zarello, BJ Cunningham, Tana McGrath. 588 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: You guys like any of these? 589 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 5: So for example, Yankees Jets to win the whole thing, 590 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 5: both both teams to win their respective leagues one oh 591 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 5: six to one, Yankees, Giants, Mets, Jets, Chiefs, Royals. They 592 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 5: were pumping up the Royals last night on the Monday 593 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 5: night football broadcast. 594 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: Lions Tigers Evan. 595 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, so's to be clear, it's Super Bowl World Series, 596 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 6: it's winning it all. I would probably pass on Brown's 597 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 6: Guardians at fourteen hundred to one, even though I decided 598 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 6: to toss that in there, probably not going to be 599 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 6: the one I do. I'm going to hit Lions Tigers. 600 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 6: Oh my, I think it's an interesting one. I think 601 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 6: it's fun. It's one hundred and fifty five to one. 602 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 6: At the moment, I think the Lions will make the playoffs. 603 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 6: I think they more likely would have a home game, 604 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 6: especially if brandon San Francisco thing goes the way it 605 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 6: does and the Tigers feel like they're on a run. 606 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 6: They're in the middle of the series against the Guardians, 607 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 6: and they've got a little magic to them. 608 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: Especially. 609 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 6: I like a team coming back. They were like ten 610 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 6: games back a few weeks to go in the regular 611 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 6: season and made kind of a historic run here. 612 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: So I will ride the train. I'll go Detroit shortest. 613 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 5: One here Brandon is the Eagles and the Phillies at 614 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 5: eighty five to one. Well, I guess Chiefs Royals eighty 615 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 5: three to one. You don't like anything here. I have 616 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 5: never heard Brandon Anderson. 617 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: Talk about baseball. I'm just fascinated by this. 618 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: I literally wrote in my notes, blah blah, baseball bats 619 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: who cares that? 620 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 4: There? 621 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: This are my actual notes. Happy birthday to my friend Kyle. 622 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: By the way, He's the biggest baseball fan friend that 623 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: I have. There's no world where I'm betting at Philadelphia double. 624 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: That's just a ticket on the world to end. So 625 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: I can't give that ticket out because that's not going 626 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: to happen. I think of the options here, I think 627 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: Lions Tigers probably makes the most sense. I basically take 628 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: a baseball bet on whoever is the longest odds. I 629 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: think that the three and five game series are ridiculous 630 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: and we need like fifteen game series, get real winners. 631 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: That's my baseball thoughts. Here's my actual pick. I'm going 632 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: off the board. I have an actual pick here kind 633 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: of Vikings links seventy to one. Give me the Vikings 634 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: Links Combo Minnesota Championship, Brandon, I'm doing it to your 635 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: Connecticut son Game five tonight. We love a ticket that 636 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: can be dead before the folks listen tomorrow. Vikings Links 637 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: seventy to one. That's the championship ticket you want. 638 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: What about Yankees Jets Liberty, let's do that, New York. 639 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 5: I did not expect to get to WNBA with you too, 640 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 5: never mind baseball from Brandon Anderson. 641 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: Okay, that was fun. I'm ready to move on. 642 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 5: Speaking of those Vikings, they are favored to win the 643 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 5: number one seed in the NFC at plus two one 644 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 5: hundred after them. 645 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: You've got the Lions. Same division. 646 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 5: We discussed the over five hundred component in the NFC 647 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 5: North Eagles Commanders at eight to one, Falcons Cowboys. There 648 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 5: are the Diners at sixteen to one, Packers sixteen to one. 649 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 5: What's the bet to play right now, Evan on who 650 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 5: wins the one seaton in the end of the day. 651 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: This is a tough one. 652 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 6: I lol did San Francisco just because I kind of 653 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 6: knew direction Brandon was headed and I was kind of 654 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 6: interested in fading them as well. But sixteen eighteen to 655 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 6: one area is pretty crazy for that San Francisco team. 656 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: I don't you know. 657 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 6: I wouldn't blame you for sprinkling on that. I think 658 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 6: Detroit is probably the right answer. Just sitting at two 659 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 6: at plus four point fifty, they can get them at 660 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 6: five to one at some spots. They still have the 661 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 6: nice indoor schedule. I think they're going to be Dallas 662 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 6: this week and that's a road game with their favorite 663 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 6: and I think you'll kind of move on with that journey. 664 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 6: So I would probably pick Detroit. I will say I 665 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 6: wish kind of I wish Philly was a little shorter 666 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 6: there eight longer. They're eight to one right now, They've 667 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 6: got the easiest remaining schedule in the NFC. 668 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: They're coming off the buy. 669 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 6: I think you get maybe on the right track here, 670 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 6: and they still you know, they've been down their two 671 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 6: best targets. You just haven't seen like the real Philly team. 672 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 6: So assuming health kind of goes one way, I think 673 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 6: Philly was an interesting bet. 674 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: But that's probably the way I look at the board. 675 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: Brandon. 676 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 5: You you mentioned this before, how we've only had one 677 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 5: divisional game in the NFC North and the Vikings are 678 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 5: one to oh against the Packers, Falcons two and oh 679 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 5: in their division. The Cardinals are two and oh in 680 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 5: their division. They're one hundred and one to be the 681 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 5: NFC number one seed. 682 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: Where's your mind gome here? 683 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think if you just want to 684 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: play the right number, this is not a homer pick. 685 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: You guys know how I fade the Vikings typically, I 686 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: think two hundred plus two hundred for Minnesota is probably 687 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: slight value here. To be honest, FTN has Minnesota forty 688 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: one percent to be the one seed, so that would 689 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: imply thirty three percent, So I think that there's a 690 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: little bit of value there. I don't need it, but 691 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: there are five and oh and there's only one other 692 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: team in the NFC with even one loss, and that's Washington, 693 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: who has a rookie quarterback and a brutal second half schedule. 694 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: So effectively, you, assuming it's not Washington, your bet here 695 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: is a direct bet against the Vikings. Two games out. 696 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: You're giving them a two game head start with you know, 697 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: three months to go. So I want a team that's 698 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: gonna play the Vikings. I want a team that can 699 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: beat the Vikings and have the head to head. Now 700 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: the Lions could do that, but they'd have to sweep 701 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: the Vikings. I'm going back to a team that I've 702 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: liked all season, even though I don't love the spot. 703 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: Thursday Night, Seattle thirty to one. I picked that before 704 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: the season. I like Seattle. 705 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 4: I know they have not looked the last couple of weeks. 706 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: They've had injuries on defense, they forgot how to tackle, 707 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: but they're playing with all the second string guys there. 708 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna love them Thursday night. I will be 709 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: very nervous Thursday Night. But if they can get through 710 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: at home in a win against the San Fran team, 711 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: keep giving games away. Seattle still is effectively they're tied 712 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: with all those teams for next best. They're eleventh in 713 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: odds on this sport. Seattle is a better team than 714 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: eleventh in the NFC. That's a ridiculous number to me. 715 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: And Week sixteen Seattle hosting Minnesota. If they can stay 716 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: the course, if Minnesota loses a few games by then 717 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: you win that game. That's a game and a half game. 718 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: Like in soccer, we call that a six pointer right 719 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: where you take the game, they get the loss, and 720 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: you get the head to head tiebreak. I think Seattle 721 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: would have a shot to steal the ones seed. Minnesota 722 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: still goes green Bay at Detroit to end the season 723 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: after that game, So if you can start the downfall 724 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the season, green Bay and Detroit 725 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: might finish it off and Seattle can kind of backdoor 726 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: through there with the tiebreak. 727 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 4: Thirty to one. 728 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeattle in Minnesota game is so good. 729 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 6: That's a great, great call for that bet because it 730 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 6: just shouldn't be thirty to one with that game so 731 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 6: late in the season. Even if it's close, you get 732 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 6: a real advantage and want to look nothing else. 733 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: If it's close and you're on that ticket, Minnesota at Seattle. 734 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: Minnesota is probably a short favorite or even an underdog, 735 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: and you can probably get a little bit of a 736 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: hedge in there and get some of your money back, 737 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: if nothing else. 738 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 3: And just to tie in a bow, I brought up 739 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: the Cardinals. 740 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 5: So the Cardinals after their bye week week eleven by, 741 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 5: they go at Seattle at Minnesota home Seattle. That's their 742 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 5: stretch there and those that's those two Seattle games are 743 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 5: their next two division games. 744 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 3: At two and zero in the division. That's interesting. 745 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 5: One hundred to one and they're two and another two 746 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 5: and three, but they're two and oh in the division. 747 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 5: They go at Green Bay this week, Chargers, Dolphins, Bears. 748 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 3: The Jets are sliding. I don't know. I kind of 749 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 3: kind of let the Cardinals look at one hundred and one. 750 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: You know, I read about the Cardinals too. They're one 751 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: of my five teams on the Pulse check today. Here's 752 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: my problem with the Cardinals. We talked about their defense, 753 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: and let's be fair, they just shut out the forty 754 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: nine ers in the entire second half. They shut out 755 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: the Lions in the second half. I believe a few 756 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Those are as good of offenses as we 757 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: know in the NFL credit where it's due upcoming. They 758 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: play like Brandon, look at the schedule again, but don't 759 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: tell me the teams. Read me the quarterbacks that the 760 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: Seahawks play the next like five or six quarterbacks the 761 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: Seahawks of the Cardinal Sorry. 762 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 4: The Cardinals. 763 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: Who do the Cardinals play at quarterback the next like 764 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: six matchups? 765 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 5: Okay, Jordan Love, Justin Herbert, we don't know about Tua. 766 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 5: Could be two a week eight, Caleb Williams, Aaron Rodgers. 767 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 3: Then they hit the buye. 768 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 769 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: So to me, that's the problem is I think the 770 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals offense is the right bet for one hundred to 771 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: one that they could do it. The defense is still 772 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: the defense that's not quite good enough. And you're playing 773 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: Love and Rogers and these like good quarterbacks, even Caleb 774 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: Williams by that point of the season against this defense. Look, 775 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: we saw Caleb Williams against Carolina and against the Rams. 776 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: I don't think the defense is gonna be good enough 777 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: to me. Arizona is a team that has caught my eye. 778 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: I like them before the season. I want to play them. 779 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: Like Evan said, they're a week to week play for me, 780 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: like they're they're the feisty underdog. I would even say 781 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: I like the Packers. They play the Packer this week. 782 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: That Colonels offense can win that game in Lambeau doesn't matter. 783 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: They're good enough to win the game. I think you 784 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: play Arizona week to week, you take the long money 785 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: line like you maybe could have against the Niners this week. 786 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: I don't think they can do it every week and 787 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: get there to the one seed. 788 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 4: Especially. I don't even think that they're. 789 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: Particularly alive for the playoffs, so I think one seeds 790 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: a little too far. It is a feisty, fun team, 791 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: but I think you got to pick your matchups and 792 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: be aware that at some point the defense is still 793 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: going to be the defense. 794 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 3: All right, I'll just burn it up then, very good. 795 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 3: I think that's all the time we have today. 796 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 5: Evan Abrams, our director of Research and Media at Action Network, 797 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 5: keep a lookout for his written work Action Network app 798 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 5: actionnetwork dot com. Brandon Anderson also has his latest article 799 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 5: up as well at actionnetworkactionnetwork dot com that concludes the 800 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 5: week six NFL round Table. I'm Brandan glas Sheen. 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