Speaker 1: And welcome tonight Cap take Over Week two. It's a
Speaker 1: real Tea Stead take Over. I am your host, Tron Armstead,
Speaker 1: joined by a living legend, an active legend, the all
Speaker 1: time sack leader in New Orleans Saints history, A true
Speaker 1: iron man. This guy has over two hundred starts over
Speaker 1: a hun. He has one hundred and two eight and
Speaker 1: a have in three quarters sacks. Brother, none other than
Speaker 1: the future Hall of Famer Cam Jordan.
Speaker 2: I appreciate putting that stak on her. You get me
Speaker 2: seven extra sacks, bro, I'm only one hundred twenty one
Speaker 2: and a half deep, you know, but it's in one
Speaker 2: hundred twenties. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Twenty one sacks is insane, and.
Speaker 2: Hey, God is good. Something like forty nine different quarterbacks
Speaker 2: on twenty one sacks. You know, there's like there's like
Speaker 2: another five and a half the playoffs, but like that's
Speaker 2: that don't count. I legend like Matt Royn twenty three,
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan type number. You know what I'm saying, two three.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna we're gonna get into We're gonna get
Speaker 1: into some situations tonight. I want I want the viewers
Speaker 1: to understand the level of petty cam Jordan, like the
Speaker 1: limbs that he go to beat petty and the way
Speaker 1: that he prepares to be petty. Why do you know
Speaker 1: exactly how many times you've sacked that one person?
Speaker 2: Well, and because it's it's it's not just like a
Speaker 2: franchise record or like because you know, I do hate
Speaker 2: the Falcons the way that I hate them. But two
Speaker 2: like you know, articles have came out there's there's in
Speaker 2: the hall, in the Hall of Fame. They'll be like, damn,
Speaker 2: there's one defensive player is sacked one quarterback the most
Speaker 2: times out of anybody in the hundred and what eight
Speaker 2: years of NFL history. It's me and Matt Ryan. Really, yo,
Speaker 2: that's why it's historic. That's legendary.
Speaker 1: You should know that you you're right, you're right. You
Speaker 1: should know.
Speaker 2: If do you have like a stat of like how
Speaker 2: many times you pancake one particular guy if you look
Speaker 2: at the league like, oh, when I line up against him,
Speaker 2: that's that's food. Like whether you know it's a non
Speaker 2: descript defensive man because he every time he touched the field,
Speaker 2: he like his claes bell tied or hesponsored by DTAs
Speaker 2: you know, you know he ain't coming.
Speaker 1: Off the edge like that. I feel you should. You
Speaker 1: should know that number. That is history. So the most
Speaker 1: times one defensive player has sacked one quarterback, it's twenty three.
Speaker 1: That's Cam Jordan, second matt Ron.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think second Charlotte was somewhere in like the teens.
Speaker 2: Like you know, I think it's like Aaron Donald and
Speaker 2: Russ or somebody and von Miller and Philip Rivers. But
Speaker 2: then the teens we left that and they might be
Speaker 2: they might be underaged with what they say. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm legal in this thing. We're catching
Speaker 2: drinks with that thing.
Speaker 1: And as a as a mutual Falcons hater, I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that. That is. That is great to know.
Speaker 1: Crazy part I didn't even finish the intro. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I'll get back to the intro. But crazy part about
Speaker 1: this whole Falcons Saints thing is we both know the
Speaker 1: GM Terry find them very well. So what makes it
Speaker 1: for me? It makes it look harder to hate them
Speaker 1: so publicly, even though I still do it. I fight that,
Speaker 1: But for you, does it change at all? No?
Speaker 2: No, It's my Terry is my dog to this day.
Speaker 2: It's not like me being a Laker hater, like I
Speaker 2: got nothing but love for Terry Founton know, but he left.
Speaker 2: It's like David on your mother, and you know, David
Speaker 2: on your mind.
Speaker 1: Is my dog bigh come on now, come on.
Speaker 2: Hey nellys, like these are my dogs. But when you
Speaker 2: go put on that trash, that trash color. I ain't
Speaker 2: never sat with red anyway, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like my high school, back in my high school days,
Speaker 2: our rival high school was this weird ass maroon. You know,
Speaker 2: I go to college, it's that ugly ass whatever whatever
Speaker 2: Stanford is. You know what I'm saying, it's it's a
Speaker 2: pathetic scarlet, you know, whatever color they want to put
Speaker 2: out there with the dancing tree. So we go to
Speaker 2: the Saints and it's it's it's a it's a want
Speaker 2: to be blood red. But the only one preepople bleed
Speaker 2: bleeding is a Falcons. Like it's crazy. I'm with you,
Speaker 2: so like red is just not my color. It's not
Speaker 2: meant to be.
Speaker 1: No no, no blood for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless unlet's take go to to like one day,
Speaker 2: allegedly that man said he gonna get drafted. He going
Speaker 2: to the NFL and I'm not saying on business over
Speaker 2: over my hate. Like you know, if he just if
Speaker 2: he get drafted by the Falcons, that's what will be.
Speaker 1: All right, all right? I want I wanted to know
Speaker 1: how how deep does that hatred go? Like how far
Speaker 1: down that? Because if tank lineup in the Falcons uniform,
Speaker 1: yeah you're a Falcon.
Speaker 2: Like if you get drafted there, like high drafted there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if we low drafted there, we may be able to
Speaker 2: finess some things to get him out of here. He
Speaker 2: has to do a bed real quick, but we get
Speaker 2: him out of there.
Speaker 1: No, no, you can't. You're gonna have to be a Falcon.
Speaker 1: You got to get a falcon tattoo.
Speaker 2: Oh boss, Look, the only longly tattoo I got is
Speaker 2: a wife. You know, wedding ring is only one.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I know you are, but
Speaker 1: it's just it's part of it. It's part of it.
Speaker 1: You gotta do it.
Speaker 2: That's your story. No, don't put that on me, brother.
Speaker 2: I got one tattoo. It's I've been married for seven
Speaker 2: years yesterday.
Speaker 1: I'm getting it. I'm getting it. If my son never
Speaker 1: gets drafted NFL, I'm getting Yeah.
Speaker 2: Shoot, you gotta put you got to put truth on
Speaker 2: there too, like truth by via. You know what I'm saying. Hey, look,
Speaker 2: one day when I get more tattoos, yeah, I might,
Speaker 2: I might add that to the story and I get
Speaker 2: the legacy.
Speaker 1: Were low key getting little too old for tattoos? I think.
Speaker 2: Key, I'm thirty five, cousin. Ain't no low key the
Speaker 2: high key.
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: But what they gotta do, I might. I might do
Speaker 2: it anyways because I can't be stopped. Now, what can
Speaker 2: they do?
Speaker 1: Camp Jay gonna do what Camp Jay want to do?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: His intro my good brother, Sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my bad is at the start of your
Speaker 2: intro our politics.
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Speaker 1: talking about my Dolphins. If you don't mind, yn't talk
Speaker 1: crazy brother, Okay, what you mean?
Speaker 2: I like the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Okay, we had to walk Hey, yesterday we had Jalen Ramsey,
Speaker 1: John Old Smith for for Minka Fitzpatrick in the fifth
Speaker 1: round pick.
Speaker 2: Wait, oh wait it was it was John O.
Speaker 1: Two Jayalen Ramsey, John No Smith in the seventh round pick.
Speaker 2: Noways talked about that later, said Jalen from making I
Speaker 2: thought it was ahead of deal. That's a die.
Speaker 1: No John Knew.
Speaker 2: Got a young gun. Yeah he nice. He up and coming.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many years you could say somebody's
Speaker 2: up and coming, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's coming off a career year. For sure.
Speaker 1: It was incredible last year. He was the offensive MVP
Speaker 1: or the MVP of the whole team if you if
Speaker 1: you ask me for the Dolphins. So I think is
Speaker 1: I think he found with his display of what he
Speaker 1: did last year, he's going to be a focal point
Speaker 1: in any offense. Like you see what he can do.
Speaker 1: He's a running back once he gets the ball in
Speaker 1: his hands, he's he's very hard tackle. So John was
Speaker 1: a beast. Losing him hurt. You lose Jalen Ramsey for
Speaker 1: making Fitzpatrick. You can justify that, especially because Ramsey was
Speaker 1: publicly unhappy, like he wanted to get out of there.
Speaker 1: So you get back and all all world safety arguably
Speaker 1: the best in the league, you know, but losing that
Speaker 1: added component of John neu Smith that does hurt. It
Speaker 1: does hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you say that, but then you know
Speaker 2: you had a he had a former NFL player via
Speaker 2: rapper to you know, un retire. He released he released
Speaker 2: the track in front of Allegian Stadium and it was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, going back to football.
Speaker 1: I see I didn't even get to that part yet.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, so you lose, you lose the one, you
Speaker 2: bring one back, you know, right.
Speaker 1: So I think, as I said, John neu Smith is
Speaker 1: is a loss from everything that he'd done done last year.
Speaker 1: You look at the roster before today, and that is
Speaker 1: a that is a void. We don't really have a
Speaker 1: tight end on the roster that can do what John
Speaker 1: Smith does for an offense until today happens. Darren Waller
Speaker 1: comes out of retirement and it's traded to the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the trade from yesterday now
Speaker 1: that this new development has happened, He.
Speaker 2: One out one in Huh, that's that's a I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't think he could replace a young guy like
Speaker 2: John new Smith. And again, what do you have like
Speaker 2: eight eight hundred yards nine yards this last year? I
Speaker 2: don't think that a thousand is a hard mark for
Speaker 2: a tight end. I'm not gonna knock him down, but
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was. It was. It was eye opening.
Speaker 2: It wasn't it was like, oh.
Speaker 1: Oh, bro now probably had a thousand last year. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure. I got we got I gotta fact.
Speaker 2: Check, you know, I can do this. I gotta I
Speaker 2: got a phone don't worry about it. He's under eight
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty four yards eight tundies fifty two yards
Speaker 2: a game rounded up, it's not nine hundred. But hey,
Speaker 2: hey that's solid. That's solid. That's so it's hard to
Speaker 2: get a thousand yards. Everybody look at a tight end,
Speaker 2: be like, oh, if he's not a thousand, yell no,
Speaker 2: this is not a wide receiver. That's not He's only
Speaker 2: a bility like he gotta he gotta, he gotta be
Speaker 2: a b month for about ten twelve players out the
Speaker 2: game to a tighten, to a to a you know
Speaker 2: ed Russier or defense vendas putting hands on him, he
Speaker 2: gets the cuss put on him. He gotta. He looked,
Speaker 2: got to look up at the stands say I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get him back next to our mama.
Speaker 1: Not new he knew ain't getting them. He ain't getting m.
Speaker 2: A l l apostrey him.
Speaker 1: Hold on, all right, Karon Waller, I retired. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: traded thirty two year old tight end for a conditional
Speaker 1: seventh round twenty twenty seven seventh round pick and also
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty six sixth round pick. Waller comes out
Speaker 1: of retirement on a one year deal up to five
Speaker 1: million dollars to fill the void that was this the
Speaker 1: departure of John new Smith. So very minimal, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: compensation that the Dolphins had to give away very minimal
Speaker 1: for the Giants is just giving them free picks because
Speaker 1: Darren Waller was retired anyway, So win on both sides,
Speaker 1: and I think the big winner, I really do. I
Speaker 1: think the big winners Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2: I thought you was gonna say Steelers because they came
Speaker 2: up with a with a bust this offseason. They're picking
Speaker 2: up everybody, anybody who around they like them, they don't
Speaker 2: picked them up. Oh we want to be Oh wena
Speaker 2: shipped off youngin All right, let's go get DK Metcalf.
Speaker 2: Oh we we got a bet safety. You know what,
Speaker 2: we'll take this that corner right here, if we were
Speaker 2: about to do something, give us Darius Slag. I don't
Speaker 2: know who they ain't picked up at this point, Oh
Speaker 2: quarterback huh oh no, we like you, we won't you.
Speaker 2: Let's make this happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very very untraditional Steelers off season for sure.
Speaker 2: Yes and no. You know, the Steelers by tradition love
Speaker 2: their veterans.
Speaker 1: Facts, they love they love.
Speaker 2: A good veteran leadership corps and that's what that like.
Speaker 2: They're not they're not going for the untested. George Piggins
Speaker 2: was just about to be a veteran, was like, you
Speaker 2: know what, we'll take this this ultra vet dk Metcalf.
Speaker 2: We know we can get twelve hundred yard out of him.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's a fact. I know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah you could, Yeah, you can say the Dolphins, but
Speaker 2: like l like like them.
Speaker 1: It's my reason, okay, and this is a bit of insight,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Dolphins for the last three years,
Speaker 1: so we know that the talent of Darren Waller is
Speaker 1: in questioned. We know what he can do as a
Speaker 1: at that tight end position. He's he's a huge target
Speaker 1: for Tour's physical he's explosive after he catches the ball.
Speaker 1: So he got home run ability paired with married with
Speaker 1: Tarreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle, Devon ah Chan like the weapons
Speaker 1: outside of him. So his one on one opportunities just skyrocketed.
Speaker 2: But the reason, hey, Devon ah Chan, explain who that
Speaker 2: is real quick? Don't do that, bro, don't no, No,
Speaker 2: that's that's that's a receiver. I'm saying, like what's this?
Speaker 2: What's this? How many years in the league. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't know him, so I'm asking that. It's not
Speaker 2: a don't do that. I haven't met him yet.
Speaker 1: I played. We haven't played the Saints since I've been gone,
Speaker 1: and y'all like to but hey, that.
Speaker 2: Was when I sacked Jacobett and too in the same game.
Speaker 1: I was on your team, brother, We was teammates, so it.
Speaker 2: Was it was Kobe. We was missing half the team.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's a fact. But I wasn't blocking
Speaker 1: for them at that time.
Speaker 2: So even if he was, I'd never go against you. Anyways.
Speaker 2: I'm not going on the right side. I'll be right
Speaker 2: down the left unless you start mauling our defensive end
Speaker 2: and then I got to go start playing, you know. Oh, okay,
Speaker 2: so it's a problem. Let me let me go over there.
Speaker 1: It's all right. It's problem Devon. You don't know him
Speaker 1: because yet he's the running back. He is the Marshall
Speaker 1: fall the album Kamara. He's Christian McCaffrey's style running back.
Speaker 1: He's had over he broke the NFL record for yards
Speaker 1: preak carry.
Speaker 2: As he's about forty three. Huh, I'm looking at this picture.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's a grown man. Okay, that's he's lived
Speaker 2: a couple of lives.
Speaker 1: Continued, Oh bro, bro, he got yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, you you look, you look from the pictures that
Speaker 2: I'm looking at. Just a quick little little snippets. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like if you say yeah, grown man,
Speaker 2: grown man, then it said twenty three, I think it
Speaker 2: meant thirty five.
Speaker 1: The boy, the boy in his second year, he just
Speaker 1: went his second year in the league. His son like
Speaker 1: years old, so he is a grown man.
Speaker 2: He didn't. I told you a live he had a live,
Speaker 2: a whole life.
Speaker 1: Okay, son the son ain't that oh probably like five.
Speaker 2: But oh sure, you know thing happened. Look I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't have teammates that definitely hit the league and
Speaker 2: then had grown and grown men by then they left
Speaker 2: My dog, you know, Tyson O Lulu, his son, his
Speaker 2: son Ray. I think as he was leaving, was was
Speaker 2: that temple or something like that? You remember Jared McCoy.
Speaker 2: J McCoy had a going Oklahoma right on his way out.
Speaker 1: That is crazy.
Speaker 2: That's dope as hell. Hey, if I can, if I
Speaker 2: could run it back without the repercussions of my mama,
Speaker 2: probably them slapping the hell out of me. I would
Speaker 2: have loved to have been, like, you know, in the
Speaker 2: league with the little little man like Tank. Now, like
Speaker 2: think about them. If Tank was like ten, I don't
Speaker 2: know how to do this. I was like, I was
Speaker 2: like eighteen nineteen when I had them. He'd been like
Speaker 2: seventeen right now, you know how five I would be.
Speaker 2: She was like, that's my dog. It is not my son,
Speaker 2: that's my dog.
Speaker 1: So I get you. I get firsteen this year. So yeah,
Speaker 1: pray for me, please.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But they say them trap babies. Real, I know
Speaker 2: what you was doing? What out there breathing?
Speaker 1: Just sime on now breathe aeans.
Speaker 2: They're on. They specialized on the one two. I don't see. Look,
Speaker 2: I don't seen the baby girl's legs. Seeny way she
Speaker 2: took off. That's a four and a eight.
Speaker 1: We were on that court, man, we hooping. We hooping
Speaker 1: more than anything. We on that. We on that court,
Speaker 1: that WNBA all that, like yeah, yeah, we see the vision.
Speaker 1: We right there with him.
Speaker 2: Dang, I assume let me get back to my I'm
Speaker 2: over here, deviating. That's on me. I'm sorry. Go ahead,
Speaker 2: I won't deviate no more.
Speaker 1: So Devon Aton. Yeah, that's in the league dual threat.
Speaker 1: He's fired. So you pairing Dr Darren Waller, you putting
Speaker 1: him into that situation, huge target that Toua has not had.
Speaker 1: But the the key behind this acquisition isn't that Darren
Speaker 1: Waller retired from the NFL because he fell out of
Speaker 1: love with the game. And and Darren is a He's
Speaker 1: a player that is extremely passionate. He's been through a
Speaker 1: lot and football wasn't fun for him because of his environment,
Speaker 1: like who was the and not his teammates or anything
Speaker 1: like that. He just didn't find the love in the game.
Speaker 1: He didn't have the support system that he felt he
Speaker 1: needed to continue playing or playing at the level that
Speaker 1: he's accustom to play. Yeah. The difference here Darren Waller's
Speaker 1: best years, it's like a four year stretch where he
Speaker 1: was a top three tight end in the league. His
Speaker 1: tight ends coach was Frank Smith. Frank Smith is the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for the Miami Dolphins. Darren Wallers has has
Speaker 1: been matched again with the one person who knows him
Speaker 1: best in the world of football, that knows what motivates
Speaker 1: and what drives him his his focal points. I think
Speaker 1: that cannot be minimized. That if you can add the
Speaker 1: Darren Waller who's in love with the game, the all
Speaker 1: pro talent to this Miami Dolphins offense. Ultimately, and it's
Speaker 1: to be seen, the Dolphins win the trade.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, way to fight back for your Dolphins again.
Speaker 2: I love it. If you like it, I love it
Speaker 2: because guess what they are.
Speaker 1: If they are black and.
Speaker 2: Goal and they then in the NFC, I don't really care,
Speaker 2: although maybe I do. I don't know, but the new
Speaker 2: playoff rules is different, so maybe I do care. Now
Speaker 2: I don't. I haven't even paid attention yet.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta AFC, NFC. You don't got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still trying to. I said, we got new
Speaker 2: playoff rules. I'm sure I'll get around to it now. Now,
Speaker 2: you don't want to just win the division, you want
Speaker 2: to win everything or something like that. Them, we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to planing before the playing like the NBA soon,
Speaker 2: Like it's cool, that's cool. It's gonna rep people's bodies.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be twenty We're gonna be twenty three games
Speaker 2: deep in the next five years. Right, A regular season,
Speaker 2: John's not even Oh they don't care about our bodies
Speaker 2: and that's fine.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a fact. Twenty three games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the players do it to themselves. They
Speaker 2: but then Tony bro saying they took the money. They
Speaker 2: take the money every time. Owners know, every time the
Speaker 2: CBA pop up, it's gonna be it's gonna be eighty
Speaker 2: percent of us be like no, hell no, hey, oh no,
Speaker 2: we ain't standing for this. And as soon as the
Speaker 2: CB ain't really come through, it's gonna be thirty five
Speaker 2: percent of quarterbacks. They be like, so, anyways, we're gonna
Speaker 2: take this. Can we get Yeah, we're gonna take this.
Speaker 2: Every time, it's gonna be it's gonna be some marquee
Speaker 2: guys like, hell no, we're not doing that. And on
Speaker 2: the on the table they'll be like, yeah, so we
Speaker 2: gonna take that deal.
Speaker 1: They know what they know what they be doing with
Speaker 1: that CBA, that that ten year contract that most of
Speaker 1: us don't rock with. But they just give you a
Speaker 1: little bit. Let you let's let them smogle little more wig,
Speaker 1: you know, let's raise that marijuana level.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, can't give oh, can't give more percentage points.
Speaker 2: But you know what we can't do raise up this camp.
Speaker 2: How much you like that, you like to leave minimum more. Okay,
Speaker 2: you ain't getting this. You ain't getting a bigger piece
Speaker 2: of the pie. You just getting get more topics.
Speaker 1: That's a fact.
Speaker 2: And we fall for it every time. And I'm just
Speaker 2: sitting there, sitting there like, yeah, we dummies love that
Speaker 2: for us. And at the same time, look, we can't
Speaker 2: even complain because the baby violins. The moment you enter
Speaker 2: the league. Even if you're a practice ball player, you
Speaker 2: were the top three percent ale of the country, you
Speaker 2: make it down in their quarter mill.
Speaker 1: Look, no at all, man, no complaints. We live a
Speaker 1: beautiful life. We play a beautiful game. No complaints.
Speaker 2: Complaints, Yeah, complaints.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got my issues with y'all. Yeah, absolutely got
Speaker 1: my issues. That's all good. Thankful though, grateful, appreciate.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, thankful.
Speaker 1: I love you for real.
Speaker 2: I like I like my next generation to do better,
Speaker 2: and I like to fight for that. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I say I want better for the ones coming up
Speaker 1: neck You know what I mean. That's all man.
Speaker 2: Just think about this. Well, you remember what your rookie
Speaker 2: pay was.
Speaker 1: Rookie pay.
Speaker 2: I made Ricky pay was for something five. My rookie
Speaker 2: pay was three sixty five. I had a thousand dollars
Speaker 2: for every day of the year. And I said, look
Speaker 2: at God, I said, any bon't he do.
Speaker 1: It after after tax? We got it miles. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: taxes that four five two fifteen. Yeah, oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: saying taxes, So that that four o five was two fifteen.
Speaker 1: Don't see. You don't see nothing more than that. I
Speaker 1: had to grab me a crisis three hundred. So that's
Speaker 1: thirty five grand out the dough. Give me an apartment,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's another thirty grand for
Speaker 1: the year.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and yeah, you still have stuff left over.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. But now what's Rocky minimum? Now
Speaker 2: it's Darney show than nine. It's like it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's beautiful. And that's why we we suck because we
Speaker 2: fall for whatever.
Speaker 1: Talking about CBA, right right, that's what young boys too.
Speaker 1: They're making too much money. Can't tell them, young boy, nothing,
Speaker 1: can't tell them ship I am different, and I hey.
Speaker 2: Hey my daddy, my daddy first pay check with thirty
Speaker 2: five thousand Steve nineteen eighty two, that boy got drafted
Speaker 2: to the Minnesota bikers got that thirty It was like
Speaker 2: thirty thirty three, five thirty five something. I said, Lord.
Speaker 1: With that thirty five, rag man, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. He was like, I'm about to
Speaker 2: go buy a porch and saw Porsche was like thirty two.
Speaker 2: It was like never man, mall holler later. But should
Speaker 2: we look That's what I'm saying. We got small violins
Speaker 2: compared to with the beginning, because you imagine playing this
Speaker 2: game and still having to go get a job in
Speaker 2: the off season. Ain't no way.
Speaker 1: You know my story at Pine Bluff bro. You know
Speaker 1: it was what was going through it being during the
Speaker 1: summers and try to get to get the camp practice. Hey,
Speaker 1: getting off the clock. So yeah, you know, hey, I was.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was out there being a bouncer in the off
Speaker 2: season and there ain't season. I was a peer advisor.
Speaker 2: I'm putting a tie on. Hey, kids, come on, let
Speaker 2: me show you where the classes are. Hey, hey, you
Speaker 2: need to get the club. I got a wind you
Speaker 2: down player to run throwing on my throwing on my
Speaker 2: Darren Waller boye because you know, my shit too high
Speaker 2: for for to be a balancer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably want secure nothing anyway, letting anybody secured
Speaker 1: that tall tea's on. You ain't let nobody down, oh man,
Speaker 1: letting everybody in.
Speaker 2: Don't ain't no black boy's energy. I need a good night,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. That's all me. But I
Speaker 2: was never I'm never doing man. I'm never doing man.
Speaker 2: I was always I was the middle of dance floor. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm secured, secured anyway. But now they got the n
Speaker 2: I L and they out there hitting legs. I'll be
Speaker 2: over there getting excited for him. I'll be like money.
Speaker 2: Seven seven schools and seven years. They got no loyalty.
Speaker 1: Now, Uh shoot, I'm in the league with a whole resume.
Speaker 2: Resume living rezumi them boys. Hey my quarterback. We just drafted,
Speaker 2: Charlie shop been about seventeen schools. You know, he coming
Speaker 2: into twenty five years old, whole lot of confidence.
Speaker 1: His name sound old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and here Eddier airs on the boy. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He's a girl man for for a
Speaker 2: monster shut down.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, easy, yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, he already twenty five. I think are the oldest
Speaker 2: quarterback on the roster. It's like him. Then I think
Speaker 2: Jake hater and then Spencer Rattler. That's year one, two three.
Speaker 2: Make that makes sense. Man, we got young buss Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got young boys. Talk.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little offense. Man. We just we just
Speaker 1: touched about the Dolphins offense, the acquisition all of let's
Speaker 1: let's talk a little offense. NFL top ten offense in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: If the same thing in there, I don't want to
Speaker 2: talk about it. Oh that means we ain't in there.
Speaker 2: That look alone, let me know he wasn't in there.
Speaker 2: That's called blooded. That's going crazy.
Speaker 1: It ain't no point of doing that. It's not crazy,
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah I do. I'm the same for that.
Speaker 1: They're not on this list. They're not on the top.
Speaker 2: Crazy, all right, give me, give me, don't talk, don't talk,
Speaker 2: give me, give me ten first. We'll work away after
Speaker 2: one because I'm not I'm not here for this madness.
Speaker 1: For the Saints offense.
Speaker 2: You wait till you wait till season. Get on here.
Speaker 2: We we we're gonna coming back to this topic.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm pulling for the Saints every every time
Speaker 1: they line up. I am. But oh, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: honest to not Yeah, absolutely that's the preseason. I can't
Speaker 1: give them offense top top twenty preseason.
Speaker 2: Who cares about preseason?
Speaker 1: I mean, for a live bullets, we know a gonna do.
Speaker 2: We know and we know what we're Chris O Love,
Speaker 2: she's gonna do if they they stay they stay healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know it's like if if to stay.
Speaker 1: Awake, I'm gonna do that old line on ball love
Speaker 1: that love the same Hey.
Speaker 2: Hours with line real anyways, continue go go to number ten,
Speaker 2: will work out. Like I'm a I'm always gonna root
Speaker 2: for my black and gold.
Speaker 1: I know we all number ten can see cheek.
Speaker 2: Wait, excuse me? What number ten?
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com NFL dot com Top ten offenses. They
Speaker 1: just they just released this today.
Speaker 2: The guys have been to a super Bowl like four
Speaker 2: at the last six years, seven years.
Speaker 1: With you, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. If you do, that's just anything outside top
Speaker 2: five is disrespectful. On the points a loan that they
Speaker 2: have Pat.
Speaker 1: Mahome's and Travis Kelce, I agree, I agree thousand percent.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's weird. Yeap number nine.
Speaker 1: Who Cincinnati Bengals, Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. I mean that's still a little while that
Speaker 2: I don't even know. Oh and they got Ta Higgins.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're number nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'll wait, I wait. Yeah if you say
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson next, I'm leaving this cast like it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Number eight Green Bay Packers go packed goal.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's right.
Speaker 1: Number seven Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2: Jordan loves just married black. I think he just married
Speaker 2: got married. Good for him?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, uh you said what number six is? Philled up Eagles?
Speaker 1: The number seven seven is the Eagles.
Speaker 2: They just want a damn super Bowl? Who made this.
Speaker 1: NFL? I don't know what riters?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the writers. Hey, the riders don't like the players.
Speaker 2: Is always gonna be forgotten, left out. Yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 2: talk crazy. They're gonna talk crazy like they know something,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna be like, oh, was he right? Was
Speaker 2: probably not? Because what does he know? The he just
Speaker 2: was at a super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Bro, Like, I'm with you, bro, chief said, did.
Speaker 2: You not just see the Jordan commercial? The love hurts clean?
Speaker 2: The managers blew out the kans City Chiefs. Brandley was
Speaker 2: defense included, but the offense was still bowing. Jayalen hurts
Speaker 2: like the a j.
Speaker 1: Yeah you vant I'm with you. Yeah, they're they're tight end.
Speaker 2: Okay, continue, that's seven.
Speaker 1: That's seven, man, all right, I think this will shock
Speaker 1: you that they're this high up number six. Never Broncos.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not that shot shot. No Champagne. Are you
Speaker 2: seeing Champagne take teams with with no receiver, just a quarterback,
Speaker 2: no tight end, figuring out a serviceable, serviceable everything is
Speaker 2: and come out with the top three offense.
Speaker 1: I'm not listen, I agree with all of everything. Champagne
Speaker 1: is oh type of hesitation or or a knock at Champagne.
Speaker 1: He has a top three offense. Reward anybody and then history.
Speaker 1: But bo Niggs going into just his second year, that's
Speaker 1: the only reason I feel like six above the Eagles,
Speaker 1: above the Bengals of the Chiefs. That's why I feel
Speaker 1: like I probably put them top ten. But six in
Speaker 1: front of the Eagles, Bengals and Chiefs, I don't, I don't,
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't really see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm already mad at the at
Speaker 2: this ke of ten and seven already, So like you know,
Speaker 2: I already know this. It's gonna be a little I'd
Speaker 2: reverse that put them they definitely could be a conversation
Speaker 2: on top ten, but at this point I don't trust
Speaker 2: this less.
Speaker 1: Anyways, continue fire, I can't wait till we get to
Speaker 1: number two. But number five detrait lion. Uh huh, fire man,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, offense.
Speaker 2: Fire. If you say, hey, if you told me that
Speaker 2: was top five, I degree every time I think it
Speaker 2: might be a little low for top five.
Speaker 1: But yeah, right, I got you number four. Washington Commanders,
Speaker 1: we just.
Speaker 2: You just said bow Knicks was a little high with
Speaker 2: him be a rookie, and you got Jay Damson one.
Speaker 2: Now granted he they was it was knocking at the
Speaker 2: Super Duck like Super Bowl like they was knocking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that was different. No that that I mean
Speaker 1: Bonnicks was very impressive in his rookie campaign. Love Jayden
Speaker 1: Daniels was different that His His campaign was different, the
Speaker 1: situations different. They just added Deebo Samuels. Yep, that's an
Speaker 1: added component tool, which I see how they got to four.
Speaker 1: Four is a little high, but I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you got scary Terry over there, Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 1: Sure, dog, Yeah, what was the running back?
Speaker 2: Four is a little high for me? And when I
Speaker 2: say high. It's about four spots too high.
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler over there.
Speaker 2: Four is a little high, about four or four to
Speaker 2: five spots too high for me.
Speaker 1: Hansu left tackle I was standing left was.
Speaker 2: A little high for me. But you flipped them down
Speaker 2: to seven eight and we could talk.
Speaker 1: About it because that's the five number three Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 1: the marvelous huh not lie.
Speaker 2: I expect them to be higher if you want to
Speaker 2: know truth, Like two time m v P should have
Speaker 2: been a third time MVP, which lets me know the
Speaker 2: buills is coming up. And that's fine too, all right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we we we we are here for it. Figure he
Speaker 2: was top three scary scariest quarterback that you're gonna go
Speaker 2: face as an age player because he could beat you
Speaker 2: in the air. You want to make him a pocket
Speaker 2: pass him at the same time he'll roll out on
Speaker 2: you and then it's it's gone. I've seen I've seen
Speaker 2: some fire, I've seen some fast quarterbacks. They they ain't
Speaker 2: never been to Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's a fact. That's a fact. I'm with
Speaker 1: you on this. I thought the Ravens will be number one.
Speaker 1: I thought the Ravens I feel like the Ravens have
Speaker 1: the best offense in the league.
Speaker 2: The way the way o the way our country is built.
Speaker 2: After they for sure throwing this blue and Red team
Speaker 2: up there, but continue.
Speaker 1: This is when I say I wanted to wait two.
Speaker 1: Y'all pay attention now too. New Orleans Saints were two
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 2: Look at them. Good for them.
Speaker 1: Who would have thought?
Speaker 2: Who would have thought? There's a lot of moxie on
Speaker 2: the team. Mike Mike Evans might be the most underrated
Speaker 2: Tier one wide receiver of all times. Eleven one thousand
Speaker 2: yards seasons. I don't think anybody but Jared Rice has
Speaker 2: put that up. And if that's if Jared Rice has
Speaker 2: done it, so insert them into your top five receivers
Speaker 2: of all time situation. I mean he got over thirteen
Speaker 2: thousand yards or some something crazy eleven seasons then, so
Speaker 2: like respect him, well, yeah, absolutely, and yet we don't
Speaker 2: talk about him enough until he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: She was still eight thousand or to nine thousand yards
Speaker 2: deep and he did it with the likes of thirty
Speaker 2: five random quarterbacks over the last eight years of his career.
Speaker 2: Before Tom Brady, before Baker Mayfield, reinvented himself and making
Speaker 2: Mayfield love his mox. He love his competitive nature. I mean,
Speaker 2: as a quarterback, you love somebody who wants to be
Speaker 2: a leader, who can corral guys to their to their side.
Speaker 2: It's rare to see it. I'm okay with that. Now
Speaker 2: they're running back, but there's a there's Bucky, Bucky Irving.
Speaker 2: He's solid, big guy, solid running back. What they got?
Speaker 1: What else is this growth? What do you mean?
Speaker 2: No, I've always respected Tampa Bay. They're fun to beat
Speaker 2: up on. No, no, no, they're like they're like the
Speaker 2: little brothers. Like you know, like when your little brother
Speaker 2: get his first diamond chain and he like, he checked
Speaker 2: me out. Cuse he checked me out. Like That's where
Speaker 2: they're at right now. That's the error. They got a
Speaker 2: four year stretch of like hey look at me, Hey, hey,
Speaker 2: hey hey you see me? You see me? And I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, you're doing something.
Speaker 1: No, no, now this is different. I didn't expect this
Speaker 1: reaction from you. At two two he told you.
Speaker 2: I've already told you that I don't agree with this
Speaker 2: list in general.
Speaker 1: So now it was just I didn't I didn't expect
Speaker 1: you to start showing love to some bucks.
Speaker 2: Good. It's more, it's more long lines of respect. And
Speaker 2: again I don't I'm already not respecting this list because
Speaker 2: if you have the two teams that went to a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl list last year at seven to ten respectively,
Speaker 2: I just assume you don't know.
Speaker 1: Ball, so.
Speaker 2: So now you know it's more about the list than whatever.
Speaker 2: But if they want to be on the list, I didn't,
Speaker 2: I would put them at top ten. Sure, I don't
Speaker 2: know if i'd have them top five over Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 2: I Pat Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, and I'm talking about quarterbacks alone.
Speaker 2: And then of course you're going to added MVP Josh
Speaker 2: Allen this year, and then you're going to no, you
Speaker 2: like you lined them against get Washington and and Detroit
Speaker 2: and I don't. Yeah, I put him in top ten,
Speaker 2: but you'd have to you have to make a hard
Speaker 2: argument for them to be on the back half of
Speaker 2: the top five rather than the front end. But not
Speaker 2: here argument semantics, because I already again I don't trust
Speaker 2: this ranking right now anyway, who did this? We needn't
Speaker 2: know how much football does he actually want?
Speaker 1: NFL Top ten offenses?
Speaker 2: Yeah? This this get this, this could be an intern's
Speaker 2: first first article, or it could be a super vet
Speaker 2: that's been in the game for forty years and he
Speaker 2: just forgot to turn on tape this year. He was, Hey, Hey,
Speaker 2: he was he went Mango wanted that boy. That boy
Speaker 2: was really he was him and Matt in Sleep thought,
Speaker 2: Mango man, shout out to my dog, Kevin Mango Steen
Speaker 2: who just retired, just retired this year. I done outlasted
Speaker 2: Kevin Mango, who's been the part of the Saints and
Speaker 2: the training room staff for the last forty some odd years.
Speaker 2: I did it. We did it. Joe all right, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry that was so Tampa. Tampa Bay is.
Speaker 1: Number six, but you said too number two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard you. Hey, I said what I said.
Speaker 1: Six too high to me. But you you can already
Speaker 1: assume who the number one offense going into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: I told you that Buffalo bit Yeah, raining m VP.
Speaker 2: Josh you got Josh Allen running back? Is uh is
Speaker 2: a little brother?
Speaker 1: Yeah? James Cook?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Cook?
Speaker 1: Are they hold on fire?
Speaker 2: You know? Offs alignement off the lineman. You you love
Speaker 2: them because you're one of them. But now you're on
Speaker 2: the skinninger side, like your vision has gotten clear, like
Speaker 2: your chiefs were too heavy at the time to see
Speaker 2: what offic the line, the word and now now you
Speaker 2: got this Mike Jones head like you can see offs
Speaker 2: the linemen are just figments of reality, like they're they're there,
Speaker 2: but they're not actually like it's not impacts, you know,
Speaker 2: like they can like an office line and the hurt
Speaker 2: an offense, but one saying like, oh ship, it's because
Speaker 2: of the offense. You'd be like, oh that quarterback though,
Speaker 2: that running back though.
Speaker 1: They got options. If I ain't know you for real,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get. But I know you for real, and
Speaker 1: I know you you've got office alignment that you really
Speaker 1: do respect what we do, living the fact that we
Speaker 1: have on.
Speaker 2: The one one out of every twenty five that might
Speaker 2: be a clip, but the one twenty five I got
Speaker 2: nothing but love for I'm like, dad here dogs like that.
Speaker 2: But it's a one out of thirty hit.
Speaker 1: You don't believe it, bro, We ain't gotta get we
Speaker 1: gotta get into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, because you're yeah, I mean, there's there's there's
Speaker 2: guys that you you considered top guys, but they if
Speaker 2: they didn't have the quarterback that they had, they get
Speaker 2: exposed real quick. Now continue.
Speaker 1: We don't have to get into it.
Speaker 2: I know you.
Speaker 1: You rock with a lot of officers line when you
Speaker 1: respect that game, respect they craft and what they do,
Speaker 1: how they go about their bid.
Speaker 2: Wait, no, I respect. They gave my own respect. They craft.
Speaker 2: Your job is to get in the way for as
Speaker 2: long as you can. The job is not to technically dominate.
Speaker 2: Your job is to say, oh my god, get the
Speaker 2: battle off it.
Speaker 1: Don't make me mad.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to do. I've reached for the class,
Speaker 2: but the change I ain't gonna snatch it. But my
Speaker 2: bad fell off.
Speaker 1: The job is to lock sh it up, create lanes, open,
Speaker 1: dominate all that.
Speaker 2: You didn't even Hey, you didn't even believe that you
Speaker 2: were one of the one of the four linemen in
Speaker 2: my career that I saw actually mean that because everybody
Speaker 2: everybody like I got it. And then they fat ass
Speaker 2: get to crossing the crossing theate toes. Hey, when the
Speaker 2: peaky toes touch the feet cross, Hey, the feet crusb,
Speaker 2: piky sols touch and the hand goes on the back
Speaker 2: of the back lap.
Speaker 1: It's holden, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you faster than eighty five percent of the
Speaker 2: defensive as you win against.
Speaker 1: But back in the day, I was a rookie office alignment.
Speaker 1: But I'm not even gonna do that today, young man,
Speaker 1: because you you worked up right now. I see it
Speaker 1: worked there right now, and you're gonna talk bad about
Speaker 1: him regardless of what he got going on, and we're not.
Speaker 2: I will not talk bad about him. The office of
Speaker 2: lineman's big as days when nobody says his name.
Speaker 1: I hate that fights like go.
Speaker 2: Like you you grow up and you watch Brad Pitt
Speaker 2: when he was Achilles and there was you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like when Buddy Buddy about to go into
Speaker 2: his first battle, little kid was like, aren't you scared?
Speaker 2: And that's why they'll never know your name. I assume
Speaker 2: that little kid was the offensive line sort of scared.
Speaker 2: They always got bad jitters. You've seen it. Don't say
Speaker 2: they don't. A lot of officers line be biting their
Speaker 2: nail because they're always scared. They're nervous to give up something.
Speaker 2: They don't want to let their other teammates down. They
Speaker 2: got hey, bro, like I said a lot I say you,
Speaker 2: but just know I know a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: officer linemen that you know, and them boys be nervous, scared.
Speaker 2: They make up personas like they like that. They're not
Speaker 2: like that. They're not themselves. They're like the fat kids
Speaker 2: without these nickers. They really just angry little look slander.
Speaker 2: All right. I'm not sorry because I meant to have
Speaker 2: a word of it.
Speaker 1: But you know, let's listen to the NBA.
Speaker 2: But you're not even You're not even fatnimal. I see
Speaker 2: you already, bro, you got a whole like ribcage and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Like you're scared for right now? You two for you too?
Speaker 2: You two forty five right now, you two fifty to seventy.
Speaker 2: You don't drop forty forty five.
Speaker 1: I was the same. I was like three to zh
Speaker 1: two with Miami three h three.
Speaker 2: Soh soh you like you lighted up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. As you get older, you gotta get you
Speaker 1: gotta get lighter, man. It'd be harder to do what
Speaker 1: you need to do. And in my case, with all
Speaker 1: that the extensive injury history, as you will know, but
Speaker 1: you the one that don't work out, don't warm up,
Speaker 1: don't stretch, don't ninety nine years and never miss a game.
Speaker 2: Hey, these hands is meant to hurt people. Bro Like,
Speaker 2: I can't screw in the light bulb in the health.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm scared I might
Speaker 2: break something.
Speaker 1: That's that Jack is crazy. Your career casy crazy, bro Hey,
Speaker 1: think about it.
Speaker 2: I grew up, but I grew up with a dad
Speaker 2: that made me wear knee braces at defensive end in
Speaker 2: high school. And I had of twisted. I said, what so,
Speaker 2: I said, the moment I get out of this, I'm
Speaker 2: never getting taped up again. I was out of the
Speaker 2: college that made me tape. I said, Yo, that's how
Speaker 2: I put that that loose tape on here. Nah, tape
Speaker 2: makes you weak. All these braces, I don't need all that.
Speaker 2: I'd be sounding like Joe Rogan up there, just throwing
Speaker 2: out random facts.
Speaker 1: You really stood by that, like for fifteen years you
Speaker 1: have stood by that. Tape makes you weak.
Speaker 2: Hete makes you weak. Your joints start to depend on it.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like when you cut up like me
Speaker 2: and wife. He cut up for like two weeks. I
Speaker 2: get dependent on it. You go to the you go
Speaker 2: to the hotel, and that beg get empty. Maybe he's
Speaker 2: sleeping with a pillow. No, you keep on taping that
Speaker 2: moment you take that tape off, you ain't gonna get
Speaker 2: the fuck look like a big girl. At the end
Speaker 2: of the night of the section the mills, is not
Speaker 2: they coming off or the mank is gonna touch the earth?
Speaker 1: They'll be calling Nikki you at one in the morning
Speaker 1: because you can't sleep.
Speaker 2: I said that you sleep with the pillow. Hey, if
Speaker 2: I can't call my wife, who can I call?
Speaker 1: That's a fact. Oh she's gonna pick up for you too.
Speaker 1: Every time.
Speaker 2: Man, she probally answer her first ring. You need to
Speaker 2: come home. I do not need need to come home.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Uh, I'm let's go to the NBA.
Speaker 1: Come on, ruined football for the for the night.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, season gonna come back. We're gonna bring
Speaker 2: it back. I'm gonna hey for the rest of the night.
Speaker 2: I'm I'll do better. I think all offensive linemen are really,
Speaker 2: really good people. That works