WEBVTT - Somebody Call An Arborist!: Tree Killers 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:02.760 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.240 Do you they Elizabeth were? I was looking for you. 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:09.240 What's all right? I got a question for you? 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:09.760 Yeah? 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.680 Me up here? Yeah, he knows what's ridiculous? 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:16.720 I do you do? Yeah? I does know it. I 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:18.040 learned so much today. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:19.160 What did you learn today? 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:19.880 The interns? 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:20.759 You look tired. 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.360 Yeah. The interns came to me with tears in their eyes, ma'am, ma'am, 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:30.880 and they said, we we got something from Marianna today. 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:35.159 Mariana today, huh and are you going to get me wrong? 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.360 Marianna apparently she apologized to the interns for having to 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.519 make this them look this up, but like it's not 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.320 that bad, really good. But so they brought this to 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.840 me and they're like this was amazing. Marianna is great, 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.920 oh really okay. But the thing is, it's like, okay, so, 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:52.519 do you know what a mook bong is? 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.840 Bong m u k b A n G sounds familiar? No, 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:57.760 I would say no. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.320 It's one of those videos like people eat something on 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.240 the video and talk about the food they're eating. It's 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.480 like a TikTok. Yeah, exactly. It comes from the Korean. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.800 They're like, you know, and so like you're you're eating this, 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.720 and then sometimes you're like, wait a second, I my 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:19.040 lipstick's gonna get all messed up if I eat this 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:25.600 on the television. So there's another thing I learned about 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.040 called micro blading. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:29.800 You're just full of learning today, aren't you. 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:35.160 Oh gosh. It's like a temporary tattoo process where they 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.640 like put on lips color or like eyebrows. It's not 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.240 like getting them tattooed on you. It fades. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:41.920 Well. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:46.520 So there's this company Wonderskin, and they do something that 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:52.880 is called wonder blading. So it's even less permanent than 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:57.320 the microblading. It's just lasts like ten hours. Look at 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.640 me blading, Yeah, exactly. And so they're like, you know 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.760 what if you're going to do these videos where you're 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.560 just shoving food in your ma, but you also want 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.200 to look super cute and you don't want your lipstick 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.800 to either be eaten while you're eating the food or 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:17.000 rub off all over you, we should help. And then 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.120 there is a company that's like, we want people to 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.240 make videos of them eating our food, but like, I 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:23.840 don't think. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.840 Anyone's going to on this one. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.560 So these two companies Wonderskin. They made this lip thing 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.480 and you put it on and you have to let 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.080 it sit for a little bit and then you you like, 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.920 peel it off. I think, well, yeah, I think you 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:45.680 peel it and then yeah, you peel it off, and 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.919 then there's like a color underneath. So the it goes 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.720 on in a metallic green color and then you peel 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:56.600 it off and it's a lovely rosy color. They teamed 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.920 up because they wanted it to look like it's an 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:08.040 ode to guacamole and tinfoil. So it's not from like 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:12.400 the the like God's gift to Burrito's al Farlito. No, 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:17.600 this was this is a chain Chipotle. Chipotle joined up 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:22.960 with Wonderskin to do a transfer proof guawk proof lip 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.920 color and it's called Lipotle. 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:27.680 It's not called lip bang. 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.280 It's called Liipotle. And it's for when you're doing a 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.480 mook bung and you want, like you you know, want 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:39.160 to stay fresh lasts all day. It's a formula that 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.360 is hydrating and then you just take it off with 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:47.120 a regular oil based cleanser. Unlike Chipotle, it's a vegan, 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.920 cruelty free and gluten free, So you got that going 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:51.840 for you while you're there. 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.400 They're bringing that to the Mashupe exactly. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.080 So that's ridiculous. 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:02.160 God seemed like nice up front. This is ridiculous, Elizabeth. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.080 You tell me my eyes are up here, Look up here, Elizabeth, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:06.960 trying to kill a tree. 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:08.320 That is ridiculous. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.680 To get back at a person, or maybe a lot 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.360 of people, or maybe to improve your life or to 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:14.840 improve your asset portfolio. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:16.680 Oh boy, all right. 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.720 Elizabeth, today I'm going to use up all of our 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.160 one percent. But we're only talking about tree murder only. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:47.640 This is it is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:52.600 and outrageous capers. Heis and cons it's always ninety nine 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:59.280 percent murder free and ridiculous. How did you, Elizabeth sar 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.160 Remember when I told you about the Great Sheffield Tree War? 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:03.520 Yes, I do, right, All. 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.839 Those silver hairs were throwing themselves at the trunks of 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.840 the trees to protect them, protect their beloved arbors from 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.800 the choppers. Yeah right now, the wood chopper that is. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.880 Remember you were a cat and you witnessed the early 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.359 morning raid where the tree removers came in like a 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:18.360 military operation. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.560 Okay, it took a couple of years off my life. 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.320 I read it, Did you looked stressed? Harry One? I 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.080 would say, in that instance, the trees they were being 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.320 massacred by local authorities in this senseless fight over who 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.560 ran the streets of Sheffield, some who controlled the leaf 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.640 is green edge. But today I have a much different 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.680 version of them. Okay, today we'll be focusing not on 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:43.400 state based anti tree violence, a term I just coined. Instead, rather, 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:47.000 we will be focusing on freelance arbor assassins, self appointed 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.960 tree surgeons, and anti leaf crimes of opportunity are boris 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.240 side boy, there you go. We're just throwing terms around. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:57.640 I like this coined Elizabeth. You ever seen a grand, tall, 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.360 old tree removed? Yeah? 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.640 It's a sadness to right, it really is. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.320 Okay, now flipping it. Have you ever seen a tree 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.600 that's been poisoned? Yes? You have? 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:08.120 I have? 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.039 Okay, how heartbreaking? Was that? 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:14.719 Really heartbreaking? Because it's it's usually for like selfish means 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.279 people want to view and so they poison a tree totally. 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.040 Or say, say the people own the tree, right, it's 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.760 their tree, and they still poison it because they want 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.720 to take it down. Yeah, yeah, even that's sad it is. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.320 Did you poisoning of any type of sad saren. 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:29.680 Poisoning of life is sad. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.119 Any kind of poisoning in life is sad. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.840 Okay, I'll keep that in mind. Dose makes the poison, right, 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:40.240 Even water can be a poison. Well, there are a 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:44.120 few ways to kill a tree, Okay, I looked into it. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.000 I wanted to be able to speak with a thorough tare. Okay, 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.719 so one you can ring it? Did you know about this? 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:52.440 You know what this means? Ringing a tree? 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:53.920 Refresh meat? 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.599 Okay? Well, the way we have veins and arteries and 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.560 capillarias and also are lymph ducts that convey all the 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:03.000 precious fluids of our body around, like all in circulation. Well, 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.839 trees they have analogs. Right. Trees have skin just like us. 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:08.640 Their skin we call bark. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.120 I call my skin bark. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.080 I know you do. I wish you wouldn't, But it's 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.920 just like our epidermis. Right, It's a combination of dead 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.120 and living cells that together function as this protective layer. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:18.480 Right. 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.280 So, now, scientists, those amongst us who study trees and plants, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.520 they have terms for all the stuff that's inside the 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.920 tree bark. They break it into layers or rings, if 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.400 you will. So what's in the side the tree bark? 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.440 They call that the like vascular cambium. Right, don't worry, 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.280 I won't be throwing a bunch of Latin terms at you. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.080 Nothing you have to remember. But I do know you 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.720 prefer ancient Greek terms. Sure, so I got some of those, 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.520 all right. So while we're on the subject, the ancient 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.240 Greek term is floios, which was a word for tree bark. 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.560 The Greek words for tree bark, which was the inspiration 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:49.680 for this next bit of fun tree science. I want 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.920 to tell you the inner cambium layers, Elizabeth. So you 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:54.560 have these layers of skin, right, just like we have 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.960 layers of scan, trees of layers of scan. That's their bark. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.200 And inside your skin you have your corpus, that meat 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.120 sack of all everything that's inside the skin, right, all 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.320 your squishy bits. Well, it's this mass of muscles and 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.560 tendons and ligaments and soft tissue joints, organs. Right, The 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:13.480 recently discovered interstitionum are newest part. Look it up. Most importantly, 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:15.760 you have this network of nerves and a system of 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.480 veins and arteries, capillaries, and the lymph ducks, right do 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.760 we talked about well, trees, as I said, basically the 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.680 same thing, but it's in rings. So the rings go, 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.360 that's where there's squishy bits. Are you with me so far? Okay? 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.040 So inside the tree skin, inside their bark, you will 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.800 find this first ring of tissue called flow them. That's 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:37.400 from the ancient Preek term flowios p h l oios. 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.840 Now doesn't it sound like what it is? Flow them right? 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.480 Flow right? So it's this network of veins that feeds 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.720 sugar as in sucrose like basic sugar, table sugar, which 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.760 is the product of a tree's photosynthesis. So the veins 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.160 are distributing sugar from the leaves where the photosynthesis is occurring, 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.080 and it goes down throughout the rest of the tree. Right, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.720 So that's that ring of flowam. Now, next inside you 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.240 find the ring of xylum tissue. Yeah, these are the 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:02.839 only two I'm gonna tell you about, so no worry. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.280 That's it. That's the last one, flom and xylum. The 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.760 xylum This is a network of veins that distribute the 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.200 water from the roots to the rest of the tree. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:10.439 Right. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:16.120 So xylum comes from an ancient Greek term elizabeth xylon yes, exactly, 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.200 and which was the ancient Greek word for wood. So 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.280 we've got bark and wood. Anyways, it seems fitting. So 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.559 we got flohm and xylom. Now I like to think 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.480 of these sugar arteries and the water veins. We keep 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.120 it easy, okay, right, So this all all we learned 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.079 all this stuff from one guy, This guy Carl Nagali. 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.600 You never heard of him. I didn't know about him, right, 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.360 Like I knew some of these plant tree scientists people 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.800 like you know, like Mendel and stuff, but not this guy. 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.360 He came up with all the language we have for 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.600 tree parts, these three he's he was big into pollination, 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.000 mixed legacy and history though. Yeah. For one, he's all 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.840 into trees and plants things, right, But then he also 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.959 goes he talks to his fellow scientist, Gregor Mendel, that 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.480 monk who was working with the peas. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:56.040 Yeah. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.000 Yeah, he convinced him to abandon his work on genetics. 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:03.199 It's like Mendel, I give up the peas man, it's 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.840 going nowhere, right, the guy who gives us the seeds 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.800 of genetic theory. So Negali, he writes to Mendel these 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.120 letters right in a hope of persuading the monk to 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.240 give up on his early genetics work, because the dude Nagali. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:18.400 He believes that evolution was not the record of life's sloppy, messy, 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.640 ongoing quest to better itself. No, no, no, which is 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.960 what we think of natural selection as Yeah, he believed 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:28.160 that nature had quote a inner perfect principle. Okay, well, 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.080 you have to understand he's writing to a monk. They're 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.840 both really religious. He believed that God's work would be 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.200 far more organized than what Mendel is putting forward. He's 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.040 basically saying, you're muddying up God's name, suggesting that God 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.920 would rely on all this happenstance and chaos. So that's 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.720 why he got mad at him. Anyway, the result was 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:47.360 Mendel's absolutely correct theory for genetics gets shunted, is pushed 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.720 off to the side. His gardening studies in the eighteen 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.240 fifties and eighteen sixties, they go nowhere, He's out there 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.320 in this monastery raising p's. Other monks are like, what 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.560 are you doing. I'm doing science, guys, and feeding the 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.679 monks nuts. Anyway, his whole this stuff about the inheritance 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.880 of traits of peas. Right, that all gets totally missed 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.720 for until the early twentieth century, all because of this 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.080 guy who also tells us all about trees. Yeah, so 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.640 he's like, my name's good, but I'm gonna try it anyway. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:16.559 So he was a special interest voter, a single issue. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.440 Vote for our purposes. This cat and aagally, he's a 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.200 true tree freak, right, So using his language of flowam 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.160 and xylum, this is how you get to kill a tree, right, 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.280 It's all about the flow and the xylum. You can 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.680 ring a tree, which means if you cut into the 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.240 bark and you remove that external bark that we think 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.440 of as bark, then you cut in a little further 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.280 and you make a ring all the way around the tree, 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.800 just like an inch or two inches you know, I 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.440 guess tall wide. I don't know how you'd want to 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.760 think of it like a ribbon cut, you know, right. Yeah, 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.720 you go in deep enough to get into those soft 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.400 inner rings, you'll break up the flow them and the xylum, 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.000 and the tree will just start to die because you 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.320 cut off the connection to the roots, and the leaves 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.800 can't get water from the trunks of the and the roots, 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.880 and it can't get sugar from the leaves. Tree dies. 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.559 All you have to do is just ring that right, 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.520 So that's one way tree killers operate. He may not 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.600 like this next one, Elizabeth. It's a little more violent. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.360 You get out of drill and you go to town 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:10.920 like your man Huck from Scandal. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:11.600 Oh god. 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.880 Yeah, you drill holes and you pour in poison and 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.400 herbicide like round up, and you don't go for all 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.600 that fancy chemical war Yeah, you can go with also 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.960 the good old fashioned standby gasoline or get the petroleum distill. 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.680 It's really ebs and salts. Maybe I don't know about 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:28.880 that one. 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:33.360 He people who get rid of tree stumps that way 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.800 and you pour that seems very natural. I don't know. 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.719 I had old paint boss, Elizabeth back when I was 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.360 a house painter, and he had a stump in his 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.600 backyard and a BlackBerry bramble, and you know about those, 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.680 neither of which could he kill off. So he was 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.600 engaged in this long prolonged chemical warfare battle with the 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:50.560 BlackBerry bramble. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.840 You just have to let go into the BlackBerry brand 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:54.440 and enjoy it's there. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.960 It's you now have BlackBerry, and. 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.360 Thank god, it's like my favorite fruit. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.280 His whole fence was a black perry bramble, so he 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.480 would also he would he had that stump as well, 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.480 right was in the center's backyard. He hit that thing 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.360 with paint thinner like from old job sites NAPFA, which 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.840 is like one of the craziest petroleum the still its right. 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.600 Then one time we poured muriatic acid on it from 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.800 a job. We were pulling the paint off a floor, 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.439 off a cement floor. He would drain any chemicals he 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.400 had in his garage. He wanted to get rid of stump, 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.240 all right, Yeah, poor Davis. Now this thing would not 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.800 die right. The stump just kept going. So he started 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.240 cutting into it, right, and then he would like then 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:36.160 green shoots would sprunt out and get all math. I was. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.760 I was not aware. I don't. I would want to 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.720 say it was like some type of fruit tree, but 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.559 I don't remember. It's a big big stump. Was this big, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:49.240 like like big like I would see, like I'm trying 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:50.120 to think of something as a. 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.360 Comparative, like a manhole cover. 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.120 Bigger's little bigger than a manhole cover. Like it was 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.719 a big daddy like yeah, like real real wide. Right, 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:01.560 So and this thing is basically using these tree fresh 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.880 green tree shoots to give my boss the middle finger. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:05.680 So like I show up, he's all pistol look on 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.800 that tree and I'm like, O, looks great. He's like, no, no, 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.440 the stump's a triumph. Yeah, exactly right. So he would 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.679 mix up chemicals basically like a bomb maker and just 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.640 keep pouring them on this stump, and then a week 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.160 or two later more green shoots like this is a 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.280 He's like, I loved the tree, and I loved how 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.160 much it made my old paint boss Larry shout out 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.400 to Larry how much he would just go nuts, right, 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.080 But anyway, he moved on to the third thing you 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.400 can do, which is expose the roots and douse them 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.520 in poison. So he tried that. He dumped raw toxic 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.320 waste in his backyard. For a while. 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.840 People and Davis have to only like drink out of 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.160 a brit of water flow. 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.200 That's because of the agricultural run. But it's a Larry Yeah, 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.120 he had big time boomer energy where he's like everyone 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.520 does this. I'm like, yeah, from Texas, nobody does this 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.200 out here. Anyway, When that failed to work in the stump, 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.400 now now it's like no longer flat top. You can't 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:53.680 even use it as like, Oh it's a stump, I 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.720 can sit on it, talk to a kid. No, it's 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.760 a pock marked battlefield, but partially exposed, fully defiant moss 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.360 and roots and stuff and the stub of this trunk 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.960 right anyway, at this point, he gets down to brute force, right, 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.200 so he went at the exposed roots with a chainsaw, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.960 and then the root ball is basically too big to 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.840 pull out, so he's got a sauce all he's trying 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.640 to get down to it. He took that tree stump down, 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.280 chunk by chunk, bit by bed till finally we sell 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:19.840 you the top of like the whole top of the 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.880 root ball. And he realizes that's way more work than 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.400 I'm willing to do. So he's like, this tree will 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.800 outlive us all God bless and he gave up right 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.480 then and there right, grabbed his shovel and started covering 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:34.360 the exposed roots. Left. I bet if you went to 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:35.960 that backyard Davis and I could take it to the 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.640 house today, you would find a tree growing that exact 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:43.440 same spot, possibly a circle, a small circle of trees growing. Anyway, 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.800 This is where I learned from those big, loud, rolling 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.960 thunderstorms you have in the South in the summer that 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.200 the only real way to take out a tree is 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.160 to saturate the hell out of the ground and then 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:56.240 knock it over somehow winderic. You know, another tree falls 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.000 on it. Yeah, you can go full lumberjacket, you know, 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.680 kind of cut into one side, pull out the saws, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.680 cut it down, or you know, you know, if you can, 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.440 you want then you want to aim for a spot 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.680 like that's much more difficult. But he could out the 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.040 ropes and cables. You can yank those suckers down. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.840 The guys who cut down trees like that are total artists. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:14.600 Oh my god. Yeah. 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.520 I watch them drop it, the precision of. 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.680 It, and the good ones use ropes they can really 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.960 guide it down. And then some of them. I've watched 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:22.920 guys with just the spikes and they're up there slaying 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.520 with it and dropping it exactly where they want. I 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.040 prefer more a little more serious horsepower. I want a 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.320 truck or attractor to pull the tree down. That's me. 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.000 I come from the South. But also, as you know 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.280 from the South, what a lightning strike will do to 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.240 a tree. Yeah, it will just blow the tree up. Yeah, 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.280 And you know how it happens. The flow them in 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:45.240 the xylom the water instantly boils and then the pressure 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:50.200 inside just explodes apart the tracks. It superheats, the super boils, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.960 so you know, Or you could do what my old 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.760 paint boss Larry would have done, if he could have 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.000 in California. And you get yourself some old tree stump 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.120 remover or as he would call it, dynamite, or I'd 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.680 call it TNT. Now you take that TNT and you 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.560 see ignited with a detonation of some sort of kaboom, 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.160 you blow the hell out of the tree. Now, that's 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.240 the way he did it back in Texas, at least 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.680 that's what he'd tell me. In the backyard. In California, 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.119 that wasn't possible, so he bemoaned lament. He wasn't in 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.560 the lone Star Republic seat of the Bear Republic anyway. 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.040 So that's what we're talking about today, Elizabeth, folks who'd 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.600 like to kill a trade. So take a little break 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:23.240 when we get back. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.080 You've given me all these like funny folksy stories to 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:27.040 soften me up. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.400 So yeah, and that we're too bad, No, I'm trying 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.720 to like, let you see that the humor in it all. Now, 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:55.560 we're gonna kill some trees. I'm sorry and we're back 0:17:55.680 --> 0:18:00.600 by Hi. Sorry apples, Hey those are good? Did you 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.280 slice this? Do you have any orange slices too? So 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.440 as we've covered us the house, now let's get into 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.200 the who and the why of true right. Often when 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.840 it comes to tree killing, much like murder, it's someone 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.640 the victim knows. Yeah, now that is if a tree 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.399 can know someone, I don't know what that means. So 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.080 you know what I mean. It's like typically someone close 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:19.800 to the tree, maybe that's a better way to put it, 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:24.400 or more specifically a neighbor usually. So there's this one 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.720 story I found a fifty one year old woman, Elizabeth 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:29.680 living in. Her name was not Elizabeth, your name is, 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:34.080 my name is, but she was living in Madiskin, Madiskin, Madison, Wisconsin. 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:37.000 Yeah, yeah, anyway, Madiskin is like the Portmanteau. 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.439 You don't want to go to Madiskin, just trust me. Anyway, 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:44.280 Elizabeth Madison, lovely town, but Madiskin, forget about it. Anyway, 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.560 This woman, she loved her cottonwood tree. You know anything 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.399 about cottonwoo tree is a nice tree. This leafy beauty 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.600 grew in her backyard where she had planted it a 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:57.000 decade earlier. Now, this bad boy was thirty feet tall. 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.720 Dang all right, grand old lady of a tree so 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.200 well it would gaze out into her backyard and admire 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.720 all that green foliage and like that was like in 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.320 the spring. Obviously in the summer, she would appreciate the shade. 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:08.920 I'm gonna look up a cottonwood tree. 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.040 Keep going. She would also then, like in the summer, 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.080 you know, admire the shade of the tree. And then 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.080 come fall, she would enjoy the dropping of the leaves 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.960 that the cat can yeah that winter. Yeah, And then 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.720 she she's it's as her tree slept through the winter, 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:24.560 so beautiful. 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:25.239 I'm looking at it. 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.720