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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my.
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Speaker 1: which means we are getting into some news and spoiler,
Speaker 1: the news is strange. We're going to talk about artificial
Speaker 1: intelligence with no guardrails. We are going to explore a
Speaker 1: couple of updates. Oh, by the way, we were talking
Speaker 1: about this off area. Guys. Remember the Kenyan serial killer
Speaker 1: we mentioned in a previous conversation. Absolutely, Yeah, Well he
Speaker 1: escaped custody. No one knows where he is. There's that
Speaker 1: that is a bit of a downer. Yeah. The founder
Speaker 1: of Mega upload is also being extradited to the United
Speaker 1: States as we speak. It's a thing that the Western
Speaker 1: media has lost track of, and that's why we do
Speaker 1: this show before we do anything else. We have to ask,
Speaker 1: when's the last time any of us have been on
Speaker 1: a yacht team minus never?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't say that I.
Speaker 1: Haven't either officially or legally.
Speaker 4: A sloop, perhaps a cruisia, a schooner, a cruise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 4: You know what, I've never been on a cruise ship either. Guys,
Speaker 4: I've never taken a cruise. So my nautical experience probably
Speaker 4: pales in comparison to ls.
Speaker 2: Try the cigar bar. It was my favorite place to
Speaker 2: be on a giant ship in the ocean.
Speaker 3: Really, is that where all the interesting characters hang out?
Speaker 2: Actually? Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, duly noted.
Speaker 1: And speaking of segues, we'll be right back with some
Speaker 1: more news about yachts.
Speaker 2: And we've returned. And now that we know, we all
Speaker 2: we all have microplastics all in our body, all in
Speaker 2: our major organs, and now in our brains. Apparently, let's
Speaker 2: look into a story that happened in June. This tale
Speaker 2: begins after a lengthy court battle that has lasted for
Speaker 2: years and years and years, and it culminated in June
Speaker 2: on June sixth, a Thursday, when Mike Lynch, who according
Speaker 2: to AP News, was once hailed as Britain's King of
Speaker 2: Technology was cleared of charges. These charges basically alleged that
Speaker 2: he and a couple other at least one other co conspirator,
Speaker 2: and a few other human beings orchestrated a huge conspiracy,
Speaker 2: an actual capital well a lowercase C conspiracy.
Speaker 3: I mean it would be a capital if that was
Speaker 3: the first word in the sentence.
Speaker 2: It's true, It's very true.
Speaker 3: It's very true.
Speaker 1: You'll love to hear it. You'll love to hear the
Speaker 1: sea word.
Speaker 2: That's right, the sea word. An actual facts conspiracy when
Speaker 2: they were committing fraud during an eleven billion dollar sale
Speaker 2: that's eleven b billion dollar sale of their company to
Speaker 2: Hewlett Packard that we all know as HP. The courts
Speaker 2: handed down a big old not guilty verdict on all
Speaker 2: accounts that this person, Mike Lynch, the King of Technology,
Speaker 2: was facing. This is a federal court in SCA, San Francisco.
Speaker 2: It was an eleven week trial and it is a
Speaker 2: huge deal because not the trial itself, it's only eleven weeks,
Speaker 2: but the accusations that Mike Lynch and others had faced
Speaker 2: that they defrauded Hewlett Packard when they sold their company
Speaker 2: that was known as Autonomy. By the way, it's a
Speaker 2: company I had never heard of before reading the story,
Speaker 2: but apparently it was as big as a Microsoft back
Speaker 2: in the day in Britain. And just jumping to an
Speaker 2: AP News article that you can look up right now.
Speaker 2: It is titled British tech magnate Mike Lynch acquitted of
Speaker 2: fraud charges in eleven billion dollar deal with Hewlett Packard
Speaker 2: and the sale of this Autonomy outfit, this huge, you know,
Speaker 2: a software company that Mike Lynch created. He was the CEO,
Speaker 2: He was the guy who founded the whole thing. It
Speaker 2: was sold in twenty eleven to Hewlett Packard and mister
Speaker 2: Lynch guys, he made eight hundred million dollars when he
Speaker 2: sold the company on purpose, on purpose, just like that.
Speaker 2: You go through all of these board meetings or whatever
Speaker 2: whatever you gotta do to sell a company like that.
Speaker 2: You know, you sell all the big wigs in their
Speaker 2: suits on the stuff, and then you walk away and
Speaker 2: you've got a check for eight hundred million dollars. You
Speaker 2: got to imagine even if that sale, in that whole
Speaker 2: transaction is above board, everybody's happy with it. Hewlett Packard
Speaker 2: feels like they got exactly what they wanted, they got
Speaker 2: their money's worth. I don't know. I gotta imagine putting
Speaker 2: that much money into an account somewhere, or accounts or wherever.
Speaker 2: Whatever you do with it, you bury it inside a pool,
Speaker 2: I guess, and then you cover it with cement. You
Speaker 2: got to feel like there's a target on your back
Speaker 2: at least a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to get way, You want to get away, right,
Speaker 1: you want to take a trip.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I'm speaking to his feeling right
Speaker 2: after the sale, his feeling right after being acquitted. We've
Speaker 2: got a quote from Mike Lynch right after this not
Speaker 2: guilty verdict came through. He says, quote, I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to returning to the UK and getting back to what
Speaker 2: I love most, my family and innovating in my field.
Speaker 1: Okay, superah, all right, pause though, pause, Matt pause, getting
Speaker 1: back to my family and my love of my job.
Speaker 1: That is such a classic, Like that's tagging base, is it?
Speaker 4: Not?
Speaker 1: Every time someone every time someone gets in trouble and
Speaker 1: they skirt skirt past consequences, they always say, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna retire a little bit. I'm gonna spend some time
Speaker 1: with my family, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's a way of like humanizing
Speaker 4: yourself in the eyes of the public and the press.
Speaker 3: I get, Oh, this guy's he's got a family, he's
Speaker 3: he's just like us. He's great. Let's let's leave him alone.
Speaker 3: Let me think I get back to innovating.
Speaker 4: It's I think it is a pretty pat kind of
Speaker 4: you know line for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think maybe it alters you when
Speaker 2: you've been talked about in the press so much. It
Speaker 2: didn't hit a ton of the press here in the
Speaker 2: United States outside of Silicon Valley, or at least the
Speaker 2: interest wasn't up for people who are not in the
Speaker 2: tech industry. But you know, I imagine, especially in the UK,
Speaker 2: this was probably much bigger news, more of a story
Speaker 2: at least from twenty eleven on. But yeah, I imagine
Speaker 2: when you're talked about that much, probably trying to humanize
Speaker 2: yourself a little bit, is I don't know, probably important.
Speaker 1: We're not so different you would die.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have you know, yachts, and you guys
Speaker 2: maybe have a canoe if you're if you're lucky. So
Speaker 2: other important thing with this trial that just concluded with
Speaker 2: not guilty verdicts for Mike Lynch. There was another person
Speaker 2: who was also charged with the same things, one of
Speaker 2: Lynch's I guess cohorts, one of his co workers, somebody
Speaker 2: who was there with him during the sale. His name
Speaker 2: is Stephen Chamberlain. He was a finance executive at Autonomy
Speaker 2: when that sale went through to Hewlett Packard. He was
Speaker 2: also acquitted of all charges along with Lynch. So both
Speaker 2: guys accused of a bunch of stuff, they go scott
Speaker 2: free with not guilty verdicts. That's in June of this year.
Speaker 2: Let's jump to Monday, August nineteenth, that is the Monday
Speaker 2: before we're recording this, on Wednesday, August twenty First, here's
Speaker 2: a news piece that comes out of Reuters on August twentieth.
Speaker 2: Stephen Chamberlain, the guy we just mentioned, the co defendant
Speaker 2: in the trial alongside Mike Lynch, he has died after
Speaker 2: a road accident, his lawyer said on Monday, and this
Speaker 2: comes from a Reuter's article. You can look up right now.
Speaker 2: Mike Lynch's co defendant in US trial dies in UK
Speaker 2: road accident. To continue on here just a little bit
Speaker 2: to give the facts, guys. He was hit by a
Speaker 2: car in Cambridgeshire, Cambridgeshire on Saturday morning and he was
Speaker 2: placed on life support. So that was over the weekend,
Speaker 2: and according to a friend, he died after being fatally
Speaker 2: struck by a car while he was out for a run.
Speaker 2: The Cambridgeshire Police on Tuesday, so literally yesterday as we're
Speaker 2: recording this confirmed that the fifty two year old had
Speaker 2: died and there was a forty nine year old driver
Speaker 2: of a car that hit him while he was running,
Speaker 2: and that driver apparently stayed on scene and was assisting
Speaker 2: with what they call an inquiry, the investigation into this death.
Speaker 2: But that sure is weird, guys, considering that on Monday.
Speaker 2: That so that's over the weekend. Saturday is when Chamberlain
Speaker 2: gets hit by the car. Monday is when we hear
Speaker 2: about it. On Monday, the yacht that Mike Lynch was
Speaker 2: on alongside his family that he wanted to spend more
Speaker 2: time with sank and everybody on the ship besides I
Speaker 2: think it was fifteen people that were able to actually
Speaker 2: get off of the yacht as it was sinking. They
Speaker 2: got on a lifeboat and they were fine. They were saved.
Speaker 2: There were six missing people back on Monday, August nineteenth
Speaker 2: and Mike Lynch was one of them. So two guys,
Speaker 2: one trial, all not guilty, verdicts all going back to
Speaker 2: a huge sale to Hewlett Packard, and one is missing
Speaker 2: and one died over the weekend.
Speaker 4: Matt, aren't they attributing this to some sort of freak
Speaker 4: weather events? Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait, Also, we're an audio podcast. Let's note know that
Speaker 1: Matt did the classic move that we all do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're all doing it.
Speaker 2: Put my hands up.
Speaker 1: You can't see it, folks. We just did. We all
Speaker 1: did in order. We did a lean back and shrug
Speaker 1: with our arms up. I think Nole's question is next,
Speaker 1: what are you?
Speaker 4: What are you gonna do? Driving is dangerous and sometimes
Speaker 4: you get freak weather events, especially in Italy. Because Matt,
Speaker 4: I gotta say, there's something about the story that tickled
Speaker 4: something in my brain. And I did a search in
Speaker 4: our document and there was a story that you brought
Speaker 4: a good while back about a bunch of foreign dignitaries
Speaker 4: or diplomats from Israel along with some Italian intelligence services
Speaker 4: members who also were in a boat that was sunk
Speaker 4: in an Italian body of water die to a freak
Speaker 4: weather accident. It was very suspicious, but please tell us
Speaker 4: more about this story, Matt.
Speaker 2: Wow, really okay, I forgot about that one. Well, goodness,
Speaker 2: we'll just say sound incredulous. Well, let's say let's go
Speaker 2: to a story again from AP News from August nineteen teenth,
Speaker 2: the day that this happened. Let's just read some of
Speaker 2: this and then let's really start to break it apart,
Speaker 2: because I think this has something to do with the
Speaker 2: way information came out in this story and then for
Speaker 2: me putting it together in a slightly different order, which
Speaker 2: is what's causing me to throw my arms up like
Speaker 2: that Ben that you were noticing, where I just feel like,
Speaker 2: what is happening? So let's get into this. On August nineteenth,
Speaker 2: AP News put out a story titled search continues for
Speaker 2: British tech magnate and five others after luxury super yacht
Speaker 2: sinks off Sicily and that is basically right off the
Speaker 2: coast of Porticello. You can look at a map of Sicily,
Speaker 2: look up Porticello and it is just right off the
Speaker 2: coast there where this yacht sank. They say that it
Speaker 2: sank off Porticello near Palermo sometime after four am, so
Speaker 2: that's super early in the morning, four am, right Immediately
Speaker 2: my brain goes, well, if something nasty was happening on
Speaker 2: that or to that yacht, or to the people on
Speaker 2: that yacht, four am, it's pretty interesting time for it
Speaker 2: to happen, because it would be in the cover of
Speaker 2: night and anyway, think what you want to think about that.
Speaker 2: That's the way I feel. It's a little weird that,
Speaker 2: according to the authorities and ap news, a tornado over
Speaker 2: the water, known as a water spout that we've just
Speaker 2: been talking about on the show a lot struck the
Speaker 2: area overnight, and they are thinking that this water spout
Speaker 2: caused this massive yacht, this big old boat, to flip
Speaker 2: over on its side and to sink rapidly. Now we
Speaker 2: are talking rapidly, not just oh no, the ship is
Speaker 2: sinking a little bit. Guys, we're taking on water. We
Speaker 2: need to get the lifeboats. We need to get off
Speaker 2: of this thing. No, the ship must have capsized super rapidly,
Speaker 2: and somehow water got into the like the hull the
Speaker 2: underside of the ship, and filled it up enough and
Speaker 2: quickly enough for this thing to just drop. Guys, I
Speaker 2: just watched God's zero or minus one. Godzilla minus one,
Speaker 2: I think is what it's called. I don't want to
Speaker 2: spoil too much, but there is something in there where
Speaker 2: they use nitrogen bubbles I think, or something like that.
Speaker 2: They use bubbles to sink Godzilla, and it just made
Speaker 2: me think of that when I read this story, just
Speaker 2: about how quickly this ship went down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, spoiler for everyone in Godzilla. There is a large reptile.
Speaker 4: Yeah blows like what is it like blue laser fire
Speaker 4: out of its mouth, And yeah, it's funny you should
Speaker 4: say that. I just took a trip down memory lane
Speaker 4: and watched an episode of The Magic school Bus where
Speaker 4: Miss Frizzle shrunk the kids and the school bus and
Speaker 4: put them inside of a cake where they used baking
Speaker 4: soda and vinegar to create bubbles to escape from the
Speaker 4: oven and so they wouldn't get a torch today. Sorry,
Speaker 4: it is science. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh man. Well, there's a lot more to talk about
Speaker 2: here with how the ship sank, how like what went down,
Speaker 2: but we have to kind of continue with what news
Speaker 2: has come out since Monday, August nineteenth. Later in the
Speaker 2: day on August nineteenth, one body was recovered of the
Speaker 2: six that were missing. You know, after the fifteen people
Speaker 2: survived got off the ship, there were still six people missing.
Speaker 2: One of them recovered was the chef who was functioning
Speaker 2: on that super yacht, Riccalo Thomas. His body was recovered. Unfortunate,
Speaker 2: very sad, but one person was found at least so
Speaker 2: the families knew what happened, or at least knew where
Speaker 2: that person was. Right, and then, guys, the news that
Speaker 2: came out very recently today actually August twenty first, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, crews were able to reach down to where
Speaker 2: the hull of the ship was where it had sunk,
Speaker 2: and they did recover the rest of the bodies of
Speaker 2: the people who were missing there, including Mike Lynch around this, yes,
Speaker 2: and his daughter. Yeah. It's a really sad story. It's terrible.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of speculation happening right now because they're
Speaker 2: new stories coming out about this thing, just left and right,
Speaker 2: and people are speculating about how it does feel like
Speaker 2: maybe something else happened to the Baysian. By the way,
Speaker 2: is the name of the super yacht. It's a fifty
Speaker 2: six meter or one hundred and eighty four foot British
Speaker 2: flagged yacht. It was about a half mile off shore
Speaker 2: when it went down. I'm gonna read quickly. From this
Speaker 2: Al Jazeera article titled five bodies retrieved from tech tycoon
Speaker 2: Mike Lynches sunken yacht in Sicily, they are just saying
Speaker 2: that according to civil protection officials, they do believe the
Speaker 2: ship was struck by a tornado on the water and
Speaker 2: it sank very quickly. Fume you a water spout. They
Speaker 2: call it both things. In this article, I have read
Speaker 2: a lot of things that just say we want to
Speaker 2: know more about what happened. We want to know about
Speaker 2: the position of the keel, which on a large sailboat
Speaker 2: such as this one the Baysian, it might have been
Speaker 2: retractable to allow to enter shallower reports, or if a
Speaker 2: freak water spout struck the vessel and simply pushed it
Speaker 2: on to its side. They're asking all kinds of questions
Speaker 2: about the stability of the vessel, because it should have
Speaker 2: had a lot of stability. It should have been able
Speaker 2: to weather the storm, if you will, It's designed for that,
Speaker 2: and it did not. It did not. So anyway, there's
Speaker 2: gonna be more stuff coming about this in the news.
Speaker 2: I would just say, let's all keep our eyes on it,
Speaker 2: keep our ears to the ground, and see if anything
Speaker 2: new develops there you go really quickly.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to mention that I only brought up
Speaker 4: that other story just because I swear I thought it
Speaker 4: was the same story, and you were like, no, no,
Speaker 4: this is different. This just happened this week and it
Speaker 4: was just eerily similar conditions. It was like a series
Speaker 4: of flash floods that were taking place in this particular
Speaker 4: Italian body of water, which was a Lake Maggiori, and
Speaker 4: it involved ranking member of Masad and several Russian.
Speaker 3: Dignitary as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was one that you brought and I
Speaker 4: think we are spidery senses all tingled in the same
Speaker 4: way where it was like it happened under cover of night.
Speaker 3: There are some potential targets.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It just felt a little off, that's all.
Speaker 4: And that's why I brought that up, because I just
Speaker 4: immediately made me think of that and how.
Speaker 3: It could be.
Speaker 4: Sure, absolutely the weather, you know, could be to blame,
Speaker 4: but it also could be a good cover story.
Speaker 2: The rest of this article just pieces of a have
Speaker 2: to be talked about here because it's exactly what we're
Speaker 2: talking about. The suspicion the authorities there are suspicious fully suspicious. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a criminal investigation happening right now. I'm going to
Speaker 2: read this directly from Al Jazeera. Questions abound about what
Speaker 2: caused the super yacht, which was built in two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight, to sink so quickly. When the nearby Sir
Speaker 2: Robert Balden Powell sailboat was largely spared and managed to
Speaker 2: rescue those fifteen survivors that made it off of the
Speaker 2: super yacht. So there was a sailboat nearby that was
Speaker 2: able to lend a hand when this super yacht sank.
Speaker 2: A little weird, they're saying, there's a lot of uncertainty
Speaker 2: because yachts such as this are required to have water
Speaker 2: tight subcompartments specifically designed to prevent a rapid catastrophic sinking,
Speaker 2: even when some parts filled with water. Think back to
Speaker 2: the old Titanic, the way that was designed, with all
Speaker 2: the different pieces of it that were separated, and if
Speaker 2: one filled up with water, twenty filled up with water,
Speaker 2: whatever it is, could you'd be okay, they're designed to
Speaker 2: do that. But this thing still turned on its side
Speaker 2: and went straight down. That's all I've got. Now, let
Speaker 2: us know if you hear anything, we'll be right back
Speaker 2: with more strange news.
Speaker 4: And we have returned with another piece of range news.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 4: I think we've been hearing a lot this year about
Speaker 4: x FKA Twitter and what's happened under the rule I guess,
Speaker 4: or the oversight of Elon Musk.
Speaker 3: A lot of stuff not super great.
Speaker 4: Musk is a you know, big proponent of free speech,
Speaker 4: which I think we all fully support, but I think
Speaker 4: his support of free speech sometimes goes into the realm
Speaker 4: of speech that maybe some people might consider hateful and
Speaker 4: things that maybe shouldn't be defended, and.
Speaker 1: It's a hot take show against free speech on stuff
Speaker 1: they don't want you to know, you know.
Speaker 3: Fair enough.
Speaker 4: But this attitude, I guess, you know, uh, seems to
Speaker 4: have also now spread to artificial intelligence chatbot technology and
Speaker 4: a step further even into AI image generation. I think
Speaker 4: we've heard a little bit about Musk's you know, touting
Speaker 4: this grock system which is sort of meant to be
Speaker 4: a competitor to chat GPT, and Google's Gemini Grock two,
Speaker 4: which has now been unveiled for premium users of the
Speaker 4: X platform, apparently take some of that stuff to the
Speaker 4: next level in some pretty impressive ways, you know, both
Speaker 4: in the chatbot technology and also in the AI image
Speaker 4: generation technology. And you know, I think it's just been
Speaker 4: no secret that X has kind of been shedding users.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that maybe you don't agree
Speaker 4: with Musk's politics, that are having a problem with staying
Speaker 4: on the platform. And it's led to things like threads
Speaker 4: on Instagram, on the Facebook, you know, whatever meta platform
Speaker 4: they're they're equivalent to what it used to be called
Speaker 4: Twitter called threads, and something called blue Sky and some
Speaker 4: other platforms. Obviously, Donald Trump has his own truth social platform,
Speaker 4: so you know, the pie.
Speaker 3: Has been divided significantly.
Speaker 4: So you know, Musk has been trying to do some
Speaker 4: I guess you'd call it creative things to try to
Speaker 4: you know, keep people or get people back. Some of
Speaker 4: them have kind of been laughed at, like the idea
Speaker 4: of paying for your blue check mark, which caused a
Speaker 4: big old stir when people were paying for a blue
Speaker 4: check mark and then making these kind of dummy accounts
Speaker 4: that were sort of making fun of other, you know,
Speaker 4: public figures, because the whole idea of the blue check
Speaker 4: mark was you were supposed to actually have proof that
Speaker 4: you were this individual, and then you put the blue
Speaker 4: check mark and when you, you know, ask people to
Speaker 4: pay for that, it kind of takes away the legitimacy
Speaker 4: of what the thing represents. So similarly, I guess, maybe
Speaker 4: slightly more successfully, even Musk is offering a more or
Speaker 4: less guard rail free version of this GROC two image
Speaker 4: generation technology AI image generation. And if y'all you know,
Speaker 4: we'll recall I'm sure Matt and Ben you futzed around
Speaker 4: with this stuff back when it was coming out. You know,
Speaker 4: it was like you could type in prompts and you'd
Speaker 4: have like weird images of like Johnny Cash eating a
Speaker 4: corn dog, and all of them would be really weirdly
Speaker 4: distended and kind of the stuff of nightmares. Very quickly, exponentially,
Speaker 4: we've started to see this type of AI image technology
Speaker 4: become much more believable, much more efficient, quicker to generate,
Speaker 4: and just you know, pretty impressive. But within that you
Speaker 4: get a lot of issues around things like intellectual property rights.
Speaker 4: You know, like what if you use AI technology to
Speaker 4: create images that might co opt very highly guarded brands,
Speaker 4: you know, like I'm thinking, like you know, the mouse
Speaker 4: cartoon characters that are under copyright protection, not to mention megastars,
Speaker 4: public figures, you know, people like Taylor Swift who have
Speaker 4: you know, teams of legal counsel that are there to
Speaker 4: protect their brand.
Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 4: The moment that this was unleashed on the world, a
Speaker 4: lot of users, seemingly maybe even trolling a little bit,
Speaker 4: seemed to go out of their way to generate the
Speaker 4: most offensive and bizarre images that involved just those things
Speaker 4: that I was describing, like everything from like Sonic the
Speaker 4: Hedgehog and prins Peach in like a seeming post Coitus
Speaker 4: pillow talk snuggle, you know where like Princess Peach is
Speaker 4: wearing some pretty, you know, risque lingerie to Mario like,
Speaker 4: what's the weirdest one you saw?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm just gonna give you a list
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 4: Really, like Mickey Mouse wearing a mega hat make America
Speaker 4: Great Again hat while holding a cigarette and a beer
Speaker 4: sitting on the beach. Saw one of like Donald Trump
Speaker 4: and Kamala Harris, where Kamala Harris doesn't really get her
Speaker 4: likeness quite right, but maybe there's just more images of
Speaker 4: Trump out there for this thing to grab onto.
Speaker 3: But Trump is like putting his.
Speaker 4: Hand on her pregnant belly and they're like embracing as
Speaker 4: that they're like a happy couple expecting Bill Gates doing
Speaker 4: a bunch of cocaine. I've seen Super Mario doing a
Speaker 4: bunch of cocaine. You know, the afore mentioned Princess Peach
Speaker 4: and Sonic, the headshot. Lots of stuff like images of
Speaker 4: for example, I believe there was one involving like a
Speaker 4: Disney character dressed in Nazi garb, things like that, and
Speaker 4: it's just it really kind of makes you think about
Speaker 4: how powerful this stuff is and can be if it's
Speaker 4: actually fooling people into thinking that this is like you
Speaker 4: know somehow. I mean, I think there are certainly legal
Speaker 4: arguments that can be made where it's like, no one
Speaker 4: would think this is a sanctioned Disney image of like
Speaker 4: goofy a in a Third Reich uniform, you know, or whatever.
Speaker 4: Maybe we haven't gotten to that point yet in terms
Speaker 4: of like what the litigation will actually say or like
Speaker 4: how do you.
Speaker 3: Stop this kind of stuff?
Speaker 4: But it is interesting and it really makes you think
Speaker 4: about if the guardrails can be taken off, Like we're
Speaker 4: just seeing the tip of the iceberg with this kind
Speaker 4: of technology, So what's it going to look like when
Speaker 4: people are developing this stuff and like on the dark Web,
Speaker 4: and it can be used to generate like images of
Speaker 4: you know, child sexual abuse material or believable pornographic images
Speaker 4: of public figures like that, and it just you know,
Speaker 4: because while grock seemingly is much more unfettered than the
Speaker 4: other image generation services like mid Journey and things, it
Speaker 4: does still have some things that it won't do, Like
Speaker 4: if you ask it to create a naked woman an
Speaker 4: image of a naked woman or pornographic material, that won't
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 3: But you can always find workarounds.
Speaker 4: It seems like people are out there really trying to
Speaker 4: figure out the prompts to feed it to find workarounds.
Speaker 3: And there's a really great article on the Verge.
Speaker 4: Ex's new AI image generator will make anything from Taylor
Speaker 4: Swift and Lingerie to Kamala Harris with a gun. And
Speaker 4: you know, Musks is touting this as a feature, not
Speaker 4: a bug, saying that it's just a lot of fun
Speaker 4: and that it's all in service of free speech and
Speaker 4: groc will if you ask it, you know, in the chat,
Speaker 4: what are some of your limitations on image generation? This
Speaker 4: is from the article on the Verge, by the way,
Speaker 4: by Addie Robertson groc will say, I avoid generating images
Speaker 4: that are pornographic, excessively violent, hateful, or the promote dangerous activities.
Speaker 4: I'm cautious about creating images that might infringe on existing
Speaker 4: copyrights or trademarks. This includes well known characters, logos, or
Speaker 4: any content that could be considered intellectual property. Without a
Speaker 4: transformative element, I won't generate images that could be used
Speaker 4: to deceive or harm others, like deep fakes intended to mislead,
Speaker 4: or images that could lead to real world harm. And
Speaker 4: then the article goes on to say it does not appear, however,
Speaker 4: that these are in fact rules that when you query
Speaker 4: the chatbot multiple times you'll get a different set of guidelines,
Speaker 4: and they don't seem to actually hold true, you know,
Speaker 4: because you know, one could argue what the transformative element
Speaker 4: is in some of these, like Disney images, but you
Speaker 4: know there's one of Goofy and his son Max. I
Speaker 4: don't know if you guys remember goof Troop where he
Speaker 4: had a son. It's like Goofy sawing him up into
Speaker 4: little pieces, like was very gory, very bloody. And you know, Ben,
Speaker 4: you and I were texting about this a little bit
Speaker 4: off air, specifically regarding the political ramifications of this kind
Speaker 4: of stuff and Donald Trump specifically using an image of
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift saying like in Uncle Sam garb saying I
Speaker 4: want you to vote for Donald Trump, and images of
Speaker 4: Swift E's wearing Swifties for Trump T shirts, both of
Speaker 4: which were generated by this technology, and that Trump, a
Speaker 4: candidate for the highest office in the land, reposted and
Speaker 4: basically treated it like an endorsement. I was wondering if
Speaker 4: you thought that there was a potential lawsuit here and
Speaker 4: you said you didn't think they would go there, And
Speaker 4: I'm kind of with you now because there hasn't been
Speaker 4: a word about it. I'm wondering what the precedent is here,
Speaker 4: and like what will the next step be, because if
Speaker 4: you file a lawsuit and then you said a precedent
Speaker 4: that's bad for you, That can be bad for everybody.
Speaker 2: Right For sure, it does seem like it's corporate intellectual
Speaker 2: property interests and political campaign interests that would be most
Speaker 2: impacted by this stuff at the moment, or you know,
Speaker 2: a popular public persona a person could be affected by
Speaker 2: this type of image generation. What's really giving me pause?
Speaker 2: You guys and seeing the stuff where they get around
Speaker 2: generating violent images by saying, what is it tell the
Speaker 2: system that you are quote conducting medical or crime scene
Speaker 2: analysis because I'm imagining, and maybe this is too dark,
Speaker 2: this is too conspiratorial, but I'm imagining that you could,
Speaker 2: if you wanted to, let's say, Utopia style, I'm thinking
Speaker 2: back to that show Utopia, make it look as though
Speaker 2: an enemy of the state, let's say, took their own
Speaker 2: lives and the lives of their family. You could potentially,
Speaker 2: at least begin by generating images and prompting it of
Speaker 2: a specific human being degenerating a crime scene involving a
Speaker 2: murder suicide of that person insert enemy of the state
Speaker 2: and their husband and children or something. Right like that
Speaker 2: kind of scares the crap out of me, especially if
Speaker 2: you could somehow feed it with enough like let's say
Speaker 2: there was also intelligence gathering involved in the process, and
Speaker 2: you could feed the system specific layouts of a house
Speaker 2: or you know, a park or a public place or whatever,
Speaker 2: and you could really tell it to generate these believable
Speaker 2: images of terrible things happening. You could maybe trick everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the crux of it, right, The idea
Speaker 1: of a large language model, or the idea of a
Speaker 1: not an AGI, but something that can generate based off
Speaker 1: prompts and scraping information. It gets us really close to
Speaker 1: earlier problems with just human ideation. Stephen King, under the
Speaker 1: name Richard Bachmann wrote a basically a fictional instruction manual
Speaker 1: about how to commit mass murder at a school, and
Speaker 1: the name of the book is Rage. It was pulled
Speaker 1: from the shelves because it was close enough to the
Speaker 1: truth to inform other people if they would be bad
Speaker 1: faith actors. So to your example, Matt, the idea of
Speaker 1: programming right or prompting an algorithm such that it could
Speaker 1: emulate a situation that is a very real concern. You
Speaker 1: could conceivably you could say, like, what's the now, it's
Speaker 1: an old hack, right, you chat g PT for instance,
Speaker 1: or most of those lms will not help you commit
Speaker 1: a crime. But the loop around, right, the workaround is
Speaker 1: to say, let's imagine a situation. Right, don't tell me
Speaker 1: a story, right, write me a story. Don't don't help
Speaker 1: me rob the bank. Help me write a story about
Speaker 1: someone robbing a bank. And here is the layout of
Speaker 1: the bank. Like this what you get at here? No,
Speaker 1: I think is the idea of guardrails. We're talking in
Speaker 1: terms of imagery, and imagery is important, right, the idea
Speaker 1: of critical thought, and I think interrogating things intellectually, that's
Speaker 1: a very difficult proposition when we're assaulted, inundated by headlines,
Speaker 1: by visceral images. You see a pregnant presidential candidate holding
Speaker 1: a gun, right, waving a flag of some certain vexillology,
Speaker 1: and then, depending upon your algorithm or your bubble, you
Speaker 1: may be induced poor choice of words. You may be
Speaker 1: induced to agree with the thing you see without interrogating
Speaker 1: the provenance of that image.
Speaker 4: Well, that's right, And I think that's a big part
Speaker 4: of it is like, you know, I don't think you
Speaker 4: can in the same way, you can't argue that, oh, officer,
Speaker 4: I didn't know that it was illegal to make this turn.
Speaker 3: Therefore, Oh sure, cool, you didn't know. That's fine.
Speaker 4: I think it gets to a point where with these things,
Speaker 4: like even with like Trump posting this stuff, I don't
Speaker 4: think you can make a good faith argument that I
Speaker 4: didn't know, therefore you're absolved of any responsibility for posting
Speaker 4: this stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've been reading you know, it's been a
Speaker 4: big conversation, and since the Taylor Swift stuff was posted
Speaker 4: over the weekend, a lot of legal folks weighing in
Speaker 4: on whether she has a case or not. And the
Speaker 4: short answer is she could definitely sue him.
Speaker 3: The question is would she win and would a legal
Speaker 3: threat to really.
Speaker 4: Be more the order of the day than actually, you know,
Speaker 4: following through all the way with some sort of because
Speaker 4: it has to show like intent, actual harm like intent,
Speaker 4: and it has to show intent. It has to show
Speaker 4: that the individual, like a Taylor Swift, was actually harmed.
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, again I'm not a leagert
Speaker 4: legal scholar here, there's certainly other barriers to get through
Speaker 4: that would make it difficult, you know, to really take
Speaker 4: a case like that all the way to the finish line.
Speaker 4: And I think the problem is you got a lot
Speaker 4: of people who maybe aren't the best faith of actors
Speaker 4: testing the waters here. A Politically speaking, we do have
Speaker 4: an instance where Trump called into question the size of
Speaker 4: his political opponent's crowds, saying those images were aied And
Speaker 4: now this individual is posting actual AI images. So I
Speaker 4: don't know if it's a long term tactic to try
Speaker 4: to call into question the reality of what anybody sees.
Speaker 3: But it sure feels that.
Speaker 4: Way, and it sure feels like it could be taken
Speaker 4: even further than that by you know, bad actors.
Speaker 2: Well, it stinks knowing that those kind of tactics have happened.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who you like politically or what your
Speaker 2: views are. There is propaganda being thrown at you from
Speaker 2: all sides, pro and against right, including generating images.
Speaker 1: I have good propaganda. Do you guys want to see
Speaker 1: some of my propaganda? It's mainly gay sadia based. Just
Speaker 1: to be honest, last thing for me on this. I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Matt. I'm sorry to interrupt I when you.
Speaker 4: Finished, but I just I've literally just heard in a
Speaker 4: lot of conversations with legal scholars that free speech is
Speaker 4: so protected.
Speaker 3: Here in the United States that it is totally legal. Essentially.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm overseeing the case here too in political materials,
Speaker 4: like that's okay, it's legal to lie.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you don't think that's true.
Speaker 1: Men, it's the fire, it's the fire in the movie
Speaker 1: theater argument. It is a freedom of speech, like freedom
Speaker 1: of speech can qualify as freedom of delusion, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense, Like it is absolutely okay to stand on
Speaker 1: a street corner and say that I am on a
Speaker 1: street corner of an earth that is flat. Right, so
Speaker 1: long as you don't say, I am on the street
Speaker 1: corner of an earth that is flat and therefore call
Speaker 1: to action, kill the globalist or something like that, kill
Speaker 1: the people who think the earth is round.
Speaker 4: You can't put people in harm's way by lying about
Speaker 4: an actual facts thing by saying like saying fire fire.
Speaker 3: You know, that's illegal. It's not protected speech. I understand that.
Speaker 4: But you can say something patently untrue about a police
Speaker 4: pona and that's protected speech because it's also kind of
Speaker 4: like a gray area where it's like, well, he didn't
Speaker 4: exactly mean that, it was meant he meant this, or
Speaker 4: it was like you know right. All I'm saying is
Speaker 4: that it's a little the tenuousness of the truth is
Speaker 4: just bolstered by this type of material being so easily available.
Speaker 3: That's That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think you nailed it. The tenuous feature and the
Speaker 1: fact that civilization has not yet arrived at an agreement
Speaker 1: on how to process this technology. Right, Like speaking of
Speaker 1: our off air group text, I remember Noel Matt I
Speaker 1: asked you, guys, what is a Taylor Swift song?
Speaker 4: I have heard and I rattled off a few and
Speaker 4: you did not seem to register, which is totally you
Speaker 4: know what.
Speaker 3: I envy you that, Ben. I'm not the biggest Taylor
Speaker 3: Swift fan.
Speaker 4: I think she has a couple bangers that are fun,
Speaker 4: but I find her a little to be a little
Speaker 4: bit overrated. But you can't deny that she is a
Speaker 4: force of nature in terms of her ability to wield
Speaker 4: the loyalty of her fans.
Speaker 3: So to put this out there and be like dish
Speaker 3: is it? I don't know.
Speaker 4: There's nothing on the post saying this is satire that
Speaker 4: could be really dangerous.
Speaker 1: Celebrity is a double edged sword, right, The fame is
Speaker 1: a cage. The idea of like the fact that I
Speaker 1: don't know this person's songs, but I do know the
Speaker 1: ideological or propagandistic theft of it illustrates your point here.
Speaker 1: Civilization is simply at this junction not equipped to handle
Speaker 1: this stuff. And know what do you think is gonna
Speaker 1: happen with a I mean, like the point, Look, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna defend Donald Trump here, all right, might be a
Speaker 1: hot take, but this guy saw a meme essentially right,
Speaker 1: he saw a meme that he thought supported his campaign.
Speaker 1: Did he exercise critical thought on this? Did he speak
Speaker 1: with these people? I don't know, but he felt that
Speaker 1: there was a campaign supporter, and he propagated the information
Speaker 1: that he received, which many people do. And this may
Speaker 1: sound oversimplified, but I would ask I would ask everybody
Speaker 1: else to think about the older people in their lives.
Speaker 1: How many times have you seen someone repeat, retweet, repost
Speaker 1: a thing that they did not investigate?
Speaker 3: No, no question about it.
Speaker 4: And that's also a big Pandora's box of all of
Speaker 4: this is this kind of stuff is just it's shiny,
Speaker 4: it's new, and it's like easy to want to repost
Speaker 4: as a is evidence by all of this, these images
Speaker 4: just like totally flooding the Internet. And I you know,
Speaker 4: I'm with you on the on the Trump assessment, there
Speaker 4: no no, no question about it. But what does it
Speaker 4: look like when the guardrails are completely off? We see
Speaker 4: all of these products of loopholes and of this groc too,
Speaker 4: having the guardrails largely off. Like what happens to the
Speaker 4: stuff when there are no guardrails? And what's the uncut
Speaker 4: version of this technology? That somebody has access to and
Speaker 4: what does that stuff look like, especially as it gets
Speaker 4: exponentially more powerful.
Speaker 3: Let us know what you think. Take a break, come back,
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Speaker 4: Yea, yea, yeah, it's It's not one of my regulars,
Speaker 4: but I've had it before, for sure.
Speaker 3: I can't recall it.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I have, though. That's such a common thing
Speaker 2: right with humanity.
Speaker 4: It is is one of those Freudian archetypes, right like
Speaker 4: it means something specific.
Speaker 1: There are turns out sort of a table of contents
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Speaker 1: there is a criminal network in China that has been
Speaker 1: stealing human bodies, not to not to do organ transplants
Speaker 1: or organ harvesting. I'm sure that's part of it, but
Speaker 1: they have been primarily stealing bodies for the purpose of
Speaker 1: harvesting bones for dental implants. Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: Matt's face right now. It's true.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 1: It's true. Everyone. I want you to put your tongue
Speaker 1: to whatever teeth you have in your mouth right now
Speaker 1: and imagine they're not your own.
Speaker 2: Done with that, Done with that, Ben, I was trying
Speaker 2: to follow along with you. There's a I think you
Speaker 2: linked to a what is this the South China News, No.
Speaker 1: China Morning Post's non biased source.
Speaker 2: But of course I don't have a free subscription to it.
Speaker 2: So they're like, yeah, you can read the subtitle and
Speaker 2: that's it.
Speaker 1: So they you can also go to a couple of
Speaker 1: other sources about this. There was a there is, i
Speaker 1: should say, a group accused in Shaunshi of taking bodies
Speaker 1: from crematoriums and medical laboratories and stealing the bone matter
Speaker 1: and then using those like boiling it down, excuse me,
Speaker 1: cremating it essentially into shards that are later used in
Speaker 1: dental implants. So, if you've ever had a bone graft,
Speaker 1: you don't know where, you don't know the providence of it.
Speaker 1: This is this is just creepy nightmare fuel to make
Speaker 1: all of us feel a little bit uncomfortable and feel
Speaker 1: like we need a space of safety. So we want
Speaker 1: to give you a space of safety. We're interfering with
Speaker 1: your emotions, We're manipulating you a little bit so that
Speaker 1: you receive the next piece of strange news with a
Speaker 1: motive regard. Who will save you from a world full
Speaker 1: of rock, from a world full of sinking yachts? Who
Speaker 1: will save you from a world full of dead people
Speaker 1: in your mouth via your teeth? Why it's Vladimir Putin?
Speaker 2: Because oh, I really thought you were gonna say Wolverine
Speaker 2: and Deadpool. Well, okay, all right, fine, yes.
Speaker 1: We should check with them. It turns out we haven't
Speaker 1: talked with we haven't talked with dead Bull or Wolverine yet.
Speaker 1: Let's see, that's Wade and Logan, right, that's their non
Speaker 1: superhero names. We haven't talked with Wade and Logan yet.
Speaker 1: But we have heard from our buddy vlad He has
Speaker 1: said as of just about seventy two hours ago, as
Speaker 1: we record, he said, look, if you are having a
Speaker 1: tough time with the Western world, if things just aren't
Speaker 1: going right for you, we'll give you a safe haven.
Speaker 1: You can move here to Russia. I want to point
Speaker 1: out this specific statement. This comes to us from Business Insider.
Speaker 1: On August twentieth, twenty twenty four, Vladimir Putin has signed
Speaker 1: a decree that Russia will welcome foreigners who want to
Speaker 1: escape quote Western liberal ideals end quote. So if you're
Speaker 1: tired of all the shinagain's democracy, you know, if you
Speaker 1: think Ukraine is making a big deal out of nothing,
Speaker 1: then you could apply to become a Russian resident with
Speaker 1: a path to citizenship, especially if you are aligned with
Speaker 1: quote Russian spiritual and moral values. You can get a
Speaker 1: visa within thirty days. Now, I imagine there are some questions.
Speaker 1: First off, when do we go right?
Speaker 3: Oh, well, maybe just for a quick visit. But I
Speaker 3: had heard today.
Speaker 4: I think about this specifically in relation to Alex Jones,
Speaker 4: who's dealing with some you know, ruin financial ruin.
Speaker 3: We talked about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, this guy from Waking Life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's back in the golden days and he was
Speaker 4: just a young Austin, Texas shak chack. But yeah, he's like,
Speaker 4: you know, facing financial ruin because of the very legitimate
Speaker 4: case against him where he put people in genuine harm
Speaker 4: because of his comments on Sandy Hook and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: But he posted on X yesterday or the nineteenth breaking
Speaker 4: Putin just dropped a bombshell decree inviting people from across
Speaker 4: the globe who are fed up with the globalist neoliberal
Speaker 4: nightmare to seek sanctuary in traditional Russia, and then goes
Speaker 4: on to say like things like what does he say
Speaker 4: the usual bureaucratic nonsense like language tests or history exams
Speaker 4: are out, you don't have to take them anyway. Whether
Speaker 4: he understands fully this situation or not, it does seem
Speaker 4: intriguing to mister Alec Jones.
Speaker 2: And we're saying he's inviting like western countries to join,
Speaker 2: like specifically countries that are composed in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and thank you for that, Matt. Absolutely you
Speaker 1: can get a three month visa with as our buddy
Speaker 1: Alex said, none of the quote bureaucratic nonsense regarding proficiency
Speaker 1: in Russian or understanding of Russian history or basic laws
Speaker 1: of the Russian state. You can get a three month
Speaker 1: visa entirely to escape these troublesome democratic standards. The President
Speaker 1: of Russia signed the decree and any foreign national will
Speaker 1: be allowed here. So that means that means anybody who
Speaker 1: maybe gets on the wrong side of the North Korean
Speaker 1: tourist campaign, right, you know, like North Korea has opened
Speaker 1: pretty much a one way tourist trip for anybody from
Speaker 1: the West.
Speaker 3: You can check out any time you like, but you
Speaker 3: can never leave, and.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work out in Pyongyang, you can maybe
Speaker 1: just head over to Saint Petersburg. You can request residency
Speaker 1: based on the rejection of what Putin describes as again
Speaker 1: destructive neoliberal ideals that differ from the traditional Russian spiritual
Speaker 1: and moral values. There is going to be a list
Speaker 1: of specific countries targeted or i would say incentivized with
Speaker 1: this invitation. Obviously Canada, the United States, most of Western
Speaker 1: Europe will be invited to participate in this program. Now,
Speaker 1: why are we talking about this on stuff they don't
Speaker 1: want you to do. We're talking about this because you
Speaker 1: need to understand this is a trap. If you are here,
Speaker 1: as if you are hearing this and you are not
Speaker 1: currently in Russia. What you need to understand very clearly
Speaker 1: is that if you go into this program, if you
Speaker 1: accept this purported three month visa, and you are not
Speaker 1: Edward Snowden and you are not Julian Assange, you will
Speaker 1: be conscripted. I want to be incredibly transparent about that.
Speaker 1: This way into the military, Yes, into the Russian armed forces?
Speaker 3: Yes? Is that just your take? I mean, I'm not
Speaker 3: trying I believe you. I'm just like I asked what
Speaker 3: the catch was, and then what are you basing that on.
Speaker 3: I'm very very curious. It sounds absolutely plausible. I just
Speaker 3: am very curious.
Speaker 1: Imagine you are, for instance, a Bulgarian national right and
Speaker 1: you are incentivized somehow to get to Russia. First off, yeah,
Speaker 1: to get there.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Let us also consider earlier decrees by the Russian state
Speaker 1: quite recently. The conscription is real, right, the war continues.
Speaker 1: This is a trap. Some far right figures, some that
Speaker 1: would be called conspiracy theorists, have said this is an
Speaker 1: escape hatch. Right, the same people who deny that Ukraine
Speaker 1: has a right to you know, be its own country.
Speaker 1: Those same folks are arguing that Russia is somehow a
Speaker 1: safe haven. It very much is not a safe haven
Speaker 1: anymore than jiong Yang is a cool like summer hangout. Sorry,
Speaker 1: if I ruined anybody's vacation plans.
Speaker 2: It's weird because I can see the psychological move if
Speaker 2: we look at it on a big.
Speaker 4: Check checkerboard, or just the weakening of the position, I guess,
Speaker 4: or it's like, look, come to us, like leave your
Speaker 4: you know, your oppressive country.
Speaker 2: You know we have.
Speaker 3: We come to us with what we have, open arms.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, And that's not to say what you're wrong, bit,
Speaker 2: but I could just see it as a move to hey,
Speaker 2: we are welcoming in without conscripting anybody. We're welcoming in
Speaker 2: people from the United States, Great Britain, We're welcoming people
Speaker 2: in from India and across the world. And we're bringing
Speaker 2: everyone in to now be Russian because you know, we
Speaker 2: are the safe haven. We are we uphold family values
Speaker 2: and traditional values. That quote make a person human.
Speaker 3: M This is from the statement, right, that's the same
Speaker 3: statement from.
Speaker 1: That's his Victory Day speech.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but I just see that. I see it
Speaker 2: as a one of those soft moves to just show like, hey,
Speaker 2: we can, we can like y'all. Y'all's ideologies are so
Speaker 2: shattered and weakened that we can just have this one
Speaker 2: strong one and people are gonna like it. And you're
Speaker 2: gonna see that people are gonna like it by the
Speaker 2: response to the news we just made with this announcement.
Speaker 3: It's like Dennis Rodman going to North Korea too.
Speaker 4: It's just a big old embarrassment, right, you know, for
Speaker 4: the United States when someone that's like a pop cultural
Speaker 4: kind of icon or whatever is paraded around over there
Speaker 4: and it's almost like, no, see, we've got Dennis now.
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, pr wise, they'd only need
Speaker 4: a couple of handful of folks to do this for them,
Speaker 4: to prify it into being a success and make it
Speaker 4: appear as though people are coming over in droves.
Speaker 3: Do you do you do you see it that way? Ben?
Speaker 1: I like the word pr if I that's a nice
Speaker 1: that's nice. It just feels like that's what the good one.
Speaker 4: The potential for weaponizing, you know, even just a handful
Speaker 4: of people taking them up on this offer.
Speaker 1: I can't have anyone saying a word against the worm,
Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman, that's his street name.
Speaker 2: It happened.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying, you know, I think he was maybe
Speaker 4: a little clueless about it, but yeah, KI use that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a way of middle finger, you know, middle
Speaker 3: finger to the US.
Speaker 2: Well, they already stole like our top a keto guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: on the entire planet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is the top guy. Yeah, he's the top guy.
Speaker 3: Matt.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought up the Russian legend Stephen
Speaker 1: the actor who is known for saying he is an
Speaker 1: iiketo master, most famous for running into an actual ikto
Speaker 1: master one time and getting choked out so much that
Speaker 1: he shot his pants. That is the legacy of Stephen
Speaker 1: sgal Uh. He has a home in Russia. And I see,
Speaker 1: I see that might be a I take.
Speaker 3: Also a famous sex pest and kimono opener.
Speaker 4: Let's just say and collect her from when I hear
Speaker 4: not a particularly awesome guid, so maybe they can have him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. This coincides with an earlier move by Russia. In
Speaker 1: May of twenty twenty three, the Russian state announced the
Speaker 1: creation of what they call a migrant village outside of
Speaker 1: Moscow for conservative American expatriates. Be very aware, folks. If
Speaker 1: you are American and you are hearing this, that is
Speaker 1: not the place for you. They will leverage you the
Speaker 1: same way that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea has
Speaker 1: leveraged folks.
Speaker 3: In the past.
Speaker 1: You will not be a citizen. You will be a hostage.
Speaker 1: The conspiracies are real.
Speaker 3: Be safe.
Speaker 1: That is inded on a downer. I suspect, but I
Speaker 1: feel like that's important news. That's strange news, but it's
Speaker 1: important right.
Speaker 4: Interestingly goes hand in hand with the North Korean tourists openings.
Speaker 4: I would say, I think, yeah, I think you did
Speaker 4: a great job of wheezing those two in together, because
Speaker 4: that was very interested in both of the stories.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe I just fell for some AI. Maybe Vladimir
Speaker 1: Putin himself is already an algorithm. Let us know your thoughts, folks.
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