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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my.

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Speaker 3: Name is Nol.

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Speaker 1: They call me Ben. We are joined as always with

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Speaker 1: our super producer Alexis codenamed Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly,

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Speaker 1: you are here. That makes this the stuff they don't

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Speaker 1: want you to know. It is the top of the week,

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Speaker 1: which means we are getting into some news and spoiler,

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Speaker 1: the news is strange. We're going to talk about artificial

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Speaker 1: intelligence with no guardrails. We are going to explore a

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Speaker 1: couple of updates. Oh, by the way, we were talking

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Speaker 1: about this off area. Guys. Remember the Kenyan serial killer

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Speaker 1: we mentioned in a previous conversation. Absolutely, Yeah, Well he

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Speaker 1: escaped custody. No one knows where he is. There's that

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Speaker 1: that is a bit of a downer. Yeah. The founder

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Speaker 1: of Mega upload is also being extradited to the United

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Speaker 1: States as we speak. It's a thing that the Western

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Speaker 1: media has lost track of, and that's why we do

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Speaker 1: this show before we do anything else. We have to ask,

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Speaker 1: when's the last time any of us have been on

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Speaker 1: a yacht team minus never?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't say that I.

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Speaker 1: Haven't either officially or legally.

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Speaker 4: A sloop, perhaps a cruisia, a schooner, a cruise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I've never been on a cruise ship either. Guys,

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Speaker 4: I've never taken a cruise. So my nautical experience probably

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Speaker 2: Try the cigar bar. It was my favorite place to

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Speaker 2: be on a giant ship in the ocean.

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Speaker 3: Really, is that where all the interesting characters hang out?

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Speaker 2: Actually? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And speaking of segues, we'll be right back with some

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Speaker 2: And we've returned. And now that we know, we all

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Speaker 2: we all have microplastics all in our body, all in

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Speaker 2: our major organs, and now in our brains. Apparently, let's

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Speaker 2: look into a story that happened in June. This tale

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Speaker 2: begins after a lengthy court battle that has lasted for

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Speaker 2: years and years and years, and it culminated in June

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Speaker 2: on June sixth, a Thursday, when Mike Lynch, who according

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Speaker 2: Technology was cleared of charges. These charges basically alleged that

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Speaker 2: and a few other human beings orchestrated a huge conspiracy,

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Speaker 2: an actual capital well a lowercase C conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: I mean it would be a capital if that was

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Speaker 2: It's true, It's very true.

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Speaker 3: It's very true.

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Speaker 1: You'll love to hear it. You'll love to hear the

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Speaker 1: sea word.

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Speaker 2: That's right, the sea word. An actual facts conspiracy when

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Speaker 2: they were committing fraud during an eleven billion dollar sale

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Speaker 2: that's eleven b billion dollar sale of their company to

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Speaker 2: Hewlett Packard that we all know as HP. The courts

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Speaker 2: It was an eleven week trial and it is a

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Speaker 2: that they defrauded Hewlett Packard when they sold their company

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Speaker 2: that was known as Autonomy. By the way, it's a

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Speaker 2: It is titled British tech magnate Mike Lynch acquitted of

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Speaker 2: fraud charges in eleven billion dollar deal with Hewlett Packard

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Speaker 2: and the sale of this Autonomy outfit, this huge, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to get way, You want to get away, right,

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I'm speaking to his feeling right

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Speaker 2: to returning to the UK and getting back to what

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Speaker 1: Okay, superah, all right, pause though, pause, Matt pause, getting

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Speaker 1: That is such a classic, Like that's tagging base, is it?

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Speaker 1: Every time someone every time someone gets in trouble and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's a way of like humanizing

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Speaker 3: I get, Oh, this guy's he's got a family, he's

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Speaker 3: he's just like us. He's great. Let's let's leave him alone.

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Speaker 4: It's I think it is a pretty pat kind of

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think maybe it alters you when

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Speaker 1: We're not so different you would die.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have you know, yachts, and you guys

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Speaker 2: other important thing with this trial that just concluded with

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Speaker 2: before we're recording this, on Wednesday, August twenty First, here's

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Speaker 2: Stephen Chamberlain, the guy we just mentioned, the co defendant

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Speaker 2: road accident. To continue on here just a little bit

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Speaker 2: But that sure is weird, guys, considering that on Monday.

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Speaker 2: That so that's over the weekend. Saturday is when Chamberlain

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Speaker 2: There were six missing people back on Monday, August nineteenth

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Speaker 4: weather events? Wait?

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Speaker 1: Matt did the classic move that we all do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're all doing it.

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Speaker 1: You can't see it, folks. We just did. We all

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Speaker 4: What are you gonna do? Driving is dangerous and sometimes

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Speaker 4: you get freak weather events, especially in Italy. Because Matt,

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Speaker 4: I gotta say, there's something about the story that tickled

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Speaker 4: something in my brain. And I did a search in

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Speaker 4: or diplomats from Israel along with some Italian intelligence services

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Speaker 4: in an Italian body of water die to a freak

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Speaker 4: weather accident. It was very suspicious, but please tell us

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Speaker 4: more about this story, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Wow, really okay, I forgot about that one. Well, goodness,

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Speaker 2: we'll just say sound incredulous. Well, let's say let's go

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Speaker 2: to a story again from AP News from August nineteen teenth,

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Speaker 2: because I think this has something to do with the

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Speaker 2: me putting it together in a slightly different order, which

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Speaker 2: that Ben that you were noticing, where I just feel like,

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Speaker 2: what is happening? So let's get into this. On August nineteenth,

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Speaker 2: AP News put out a story titled search continues for

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Speaker 2: British tech magnate and five others after luxury super yacht

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Speaker 2: sinks off Sicily and that is basically right off the

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Speaker 2: look up Porticello and it is just right off the

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Speaker 2: sank off Porticello near Palermo sometime after four am, so

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Speaker 2: that's super early in the morning, four am, right Immediately

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Speaker 2: my brain goes, well, if something nasty was happening on

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 4: Disney character dressed in Nazi garb, things like that, and

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Speaker 4: it's just it really kind of makes you think about

437
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Speaker 4: how powerful this stuff is and can be if it's

438
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Speaker 4: actually fooling people into thinking that this is like you

439
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Speaker 4: know somehow. I mean, I think there are certainly legal

440
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Speaker 4: arguments that can be made where it's like, no one

441
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Speaker 4: would think this is a sanctioned Disney image of like

442
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Speaker 4: goofy a in a Third Reich uniform, you know, or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we haven't gotten to that point yet in terms

444
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Speaker 4: of like what the litigation will actually say or like

445
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Speaker 4: how do you.

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Speaker 3: Stop this kind of stuff?

447
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Speaker 4: But it is interesting and it really makes you think

448
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Speaker 4: about if the guardrails can be taken off, Like we're

449
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Speaker 4: just seeing the tip of the iceberg with this kind

450
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Speaker 4: of technology, So what's it going to look like when

451
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Speaker 4: people are developing this stuff and like on the dark Web,

452
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Speaker 4: and it can be used to generate like images of

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Speaker 4: you know, child sexual abuse material or believable pornographic images

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Speaker 4: of public figures like that, and it just you know,

455
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Speaker 4: because while grock seemingly is much more unfettered than the

456
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Speaker 4: other image generation services like mid Journey and things, it

457
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Speaker 4: does still have some things that it won't do, Like

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Speaker 4: if you ask it to create a naked woman an

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Speaker 4: image of a naked woman or pornographic material, that won't

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Speaker 4: do it.

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Speaker 3: But you can always find workarounds.

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Speaker 4: It seems like people are out there really trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out the prompts to feed it to find workarounds.

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Speaker 3: And there's a really great article on the Verge.

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Speaker 4: Ex's new AI image generator will make anything from Taylor

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Speaker 4: Swift and Lingerie to Kamala Harris with a gun. And

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Speaker 4: you know, Musks is touting this as a feature, not

468
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Speaker 4: a bug, saying that it's just a lot of fun

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Speaker 4: and that it's all in service of free speech and

470
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Speaker 4: groc will if you ask it, you know, in the chat,

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Speaker 4: what are some of your limitations on image generation? This

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Speaker 4: is from the article on the Verge, by the way,

473
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Speaker 4: by Addie Robertson groc will say, I avoid generating images

474
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Speaker 4: that are pornographic, excessively violent, hateful, or the promote dangerous activities.

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Speaker 4: I'm cautious about creating images that might infringe on existing

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Speaker 4: copyrights or trademarks. This includes well known characters, logos, or

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Speaker 4: any content that could be considered intellectual property. Without a

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Speaker 4: transformative element, I won't generate images that could be used

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Speaker 4: to deceive or harm others, like deep fakes intended to mislead,

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Speaker 4: or images that could lead to real world harm. And

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Speaker 4: then the article goes on to say it does not appear, however,

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Speaker 4: that these are in fact rules that when you query

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Speaker 4: the chatbot multiple times you'll get a different set of guidelines,

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Speaker 4: and they don't seem to actually hold true, you know,

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Speaker 4: because you know, one could argue what the transformative element

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Speaker 4: is in some of these, like Disney images, but you

487
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Speaker 4: know there's one of Goofy and his son Max. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if you guys remember goof Troop where he

489
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Speaker 4: had a son. It's like Goofy sawing him up into

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Speaker 4: little pieces, like was very gory, very bloody. And you know, Ben,

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Speaker 4: you and I were texting about this a little bit

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Speaker 4: off air, specifically regarding the political ramifications of this kind

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Speaker 4: of stuff and Donald Trump specifically using an image of

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Speaker 4: Taylor Swift saying like in Uncle Sam garb saying I

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Speaker 4: want you to vote for Donald Trump, and images of

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Speaker 4: Swift E's wearing Swifties for Trump T shirts, both of

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Speaker 4: which were generated by this technology, and that Trump, a

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Speaker 4: candidate for the highest office in the land, reposted and

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Speaker 4: basically treated it like an endorsement. I was wondering if

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Speaker 4: you thought that there was a potential lawsuit here and

501
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Speaker 4: you said you didn't think they would go there, And

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of with you now because there hasn't been

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Speaker 4: a word about it. I'm wondering what the precedent is here,

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Speaker 4: and like what will the next step be, because if

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Speaker 4: you file a lawsuit and then you said a precedent

506
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Speaker 4: that's bad for you, That can be bad for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Right For sure, it does seem like it's corporate intellectual

508
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Speaker 2: property interests and political campaign interests that would be most

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Speaker 2: impacted by this stuff at the moment, or you know,

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Speaker 2: a popular public persona a person could be affected by

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Speaker 2: this type of image generation. What's really giving me pause?

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Speaker 2: You guys and seeing the stuff where they get around

513
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Speaker 2: generating violent images by saying, what is it tell the

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Speaker 2: system that you are quote conducting medical or crime scene

515
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Speaker 2: analysis because I'm imagining, and maybe this is too dark,

516
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Speaker 2: this is too conspiratorial, but I'm imagining that you could,

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Speaker 2: if you wanted to, let's say, Utopia style, I'm thinking

518
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Speaker 2: back to that show Utopia, make it look as though

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Speaker 2: an enemy of the state, let's say, took their own

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Speaker 2: lives and the lives of their family. You could potentially,

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Speaker 2: at least begin by generating images and prompting it of

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Speaker 2: a specific human being degenerating a crime scene involving a

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Speaker 2: murder suicide of that person insert enemy of the state

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Speaker 2: and their husband and children or something. Right like that

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Speaker 2: kind of scares the crap out of me, especially if

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Speaker 2: you could somehow feed it with enough like let's say

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Speaker 2: there was also intelligence gathering involved in the process, and

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Speaker 2: you could feed the system specific layouts of a house

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Speaker 2: or you know, a park or a public place or whatever,

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Speaker 2: and you could really tell it to generate these believable

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Speaker 2: images of terrible things happening. You could maybe trick everyone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the crux of it, right, The idea

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Speaker 1: of a large language model, or the idea of a

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Speaker 1: not an AGI, but something that can generate based off

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Speaker 1: prompts and scraping information. It gets us really close to

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Speaker 1: earlier problems with just human ideation. Stephen King, under the

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Speaker 1: name Richard Bachmann wrote a basically a fictional instruction manual

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Speaker 1: about how to commit mass murder at a school, and

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Speaker 1: the name of the book is Rage. It was pulled

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Speaker 1: from the shelves because it was close enough to the

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Speaker 1: truth to inform other people if they would be bad

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Speaker 1: faith actors. So to your example, Matt, the idea of

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Speaker 1: programming right or prompting an algorithm such that it could

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Speaker 1: emulate a situation that is a very real concern. You

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Speaker 1: could conceivably you could say, like, what's the now, it's

546
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Speaker 1: an old hack, right, you chat g PT for instance,

547
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Speaker 1: or most of those lms will not help you commit

548
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Speaker 1: a crime. But the loop around, right, the workaround is

549
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Speaker 1: to say, let's imagine a situation. Right, don't tell me

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Speaker 1: a story, right, write me a story. Don't don't help

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Speaker 1: me rob the bank. Help me write a story about

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Speaker 1: someone robbing a bank. And here is the layout of

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Speaker 1: the bank. Like this what you get at here? No,

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Speaker 1: I think is the idea of guardrails. We're talking in

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Speaker 1: terms of imagery, and imagery is important, right, the idea

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Speaker 1: of critical thought, and I think interrogating things intellectually, that's

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Speaker 1: a very difficult proposition when we're assaulted, inundated by headlines,

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Speaker 1: by visceral images. You see a pregnant presidential candidate holding

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Speaker 1: a gun, right, waving a flag of some certain vexillology,

560
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Speaker 1: and then, depending upon your algorithm or your bubble, you

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Speaker 1: may be induced poor choice of words. You may be

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Speaker 1: induced to agree with the thing you see without interrogating

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Speaker 1: the provenance of that image.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's right, And I think that's a big part

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Speaker 4: of it is like, you know, I don't think you

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Speaker 4: can in the same way, you can't argue that, oh, officer,

567
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Speaker 4: I didn't know that it was illegal to make this turn.

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Speaker 3: Therefore, Oh sure, cool, you didn't know. That's fine.

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Speaker 4: I think it gets to a point where with these things,

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Speaker 4: like even with like Trump posting this stuff, I don't

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Speaker 4: think you can make a good faith argument that I

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Speaker 4: didn't know, therefore you're absolved of any responsibility for posting

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Speaker 4: this stuff.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've been reading you know, it's been a

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Speaker 4: big conversation, and since the Taylor Swift stuff was posted

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Speaker 4: over the weekend, a lot of legal folks weighing in

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Speaker 4: on whether she has a case or not. And the

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Speaker 4: short answer is she could definitely sue him.

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Speaker 3: The question is would she win and would a legal

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Speaker 3: threat to really.

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Speaker 4: Be more the order of the day than actually, you know,

583
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Speaker 4: following through all the way with some sort of because

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Speaker 4: it has to show like intent, actual harm like intent,

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Speaker 4: and it has to show intent. It has to show

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Speaker 4: that the individual, like a Taylor Swift, was actually harmed.

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Speaker 4: And I think, you know, again I'm not a leagert

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Speaker 4: legal scholar here, there's certainly other barriers to get through

589
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Speaker 4: that would make it difficult, you know, to really take

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Speaker 4: a case like that all the way to the finish line.

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Speaker 4: And I think the problem is you got a lot

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Speaker 4: of people who maybe aren't the best faith of actors

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Speaker 4: testing the waters here. A Politically speaking, we do have

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Speaker 4: an instance where Trump called into question the size of

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Speaker 4: his political opponent's crowds, saying those images were aied And

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Speaker 4: now this individual is posting actual AI images. So I

597
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Speaker 4: don't know if it's a long term tactic to try

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Speaker 4: to call into question the reality of what anybody sees.

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Speaker 3: But it sure feels that.

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Speaker 4: Way, and it sure feels like it could be taken

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Speaker 4: even further than that by you know, bad actors.

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Speaker 2: Well, it stinks knowing that those kind of tactics have happened.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who you like politically or what your

604
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Speaker 2: views are. There is propaganda being thrown at you from

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Speaker 2: all sides, pro and against right, including generating images.

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Speaker 1: I have good propaganda. Do you guys want to see

607
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Speaker 1: some of my propaganda? It's mainly gay sadia based. Just

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Speaker 1: to be honest, last thing for me on this. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, Matt. I'm sorry to interrupt I when you.

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Speaker 4: Finished, but I just I've literally just heard in a

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Speaker 4: lot of conversations with legal scholars that free speech is

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Speaker 4: so protected.

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Speaker 3: Here in the United States that it is totally legal. Essentially.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm overseeing the case here too in political materials,

615
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Speaker 4: like that's okay, it's legal to lie.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you don't think that's true.

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Speaker 1: Men, it's the fire, it's the fire in the movie

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Speaker 1: theater argument. It is a freedom of speech, like freedom

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Speaker 1: of speech can qualify as freedom of delusion, if that

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Speaker 1: makes sense, Like it is absolutely okay to stand on

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Speaker 1: a street corner and say that I am on a

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Speaker 1: street corner of an earth that is flat. Right, so

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Speaker 1: long as you don't say, I am on the street

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Speaker 1: corner of an earth that is flat and therefore call

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Speaker 1: to action, kill the globalist or something like that, kill

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Speaker 1: the people who think the earth is round.

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Speaker 4: You can't put people in harm's way by lying about

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Speaker 4: an actual facts thing by saying like saying fire fire.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's illegal. It's not protected speech. I understand that.

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Speaker 4: But you can say something patently untrue about a police

631
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Speaker 4: pona and that's protected speech because it's also kind of

632
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Speaker 4: like a gray area where it's like, well, he didn't

633
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Speaker 4: exactly mean that, it was meant he meant this, or

634
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Speaker 4: it was like you know right. All I'm saying is

635
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Speaker 4: that it's a little the tenuousness of the truth is

636
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Speaker 4: just bolstered by this type of material being so easily available.

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Speaker 3: That's That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I think you nailed it. The tenuous feature and the

639
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Speaker 1: fact that civilization has not yet arrived at an agreement

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Speaker 1: on how to process this technology. Right, Like speaking of

641
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Speaker 1: our off air group text, I remember Noel Matt I

642
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Speaker 1: asked you, guys, what is a Taylor Swift song?

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Speaker 4: I have heard and I rattled off a few and

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Speaker 4: you did not seem to register, which is totally you

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Speaker 4: know what.

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Speaker 3: I envy you that, Ben. I'm not the biggest Taylor

647
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Speaker 3: Swift fan.

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Speaker 4: I think she has a couple bangers that are fun,

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Speaker 4: but I find her a little to be a little

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Speaker 4: bit overrated. But you can't deny that she is a

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Speaker 4: force of nature in terms of her ability to wield

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Speaker 4: the loyalty of her fans.

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Speaker 3: So to put this out there and be like dish

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Speaker 3: is it? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing on the post saying this is satire that

656
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Speaker 4: could be really dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Celebrity is a double edged sword, right, The fame is

658
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Speaker 1: a cage. The idea of like the fact that I

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Speaker 1: don't know this person's songs, but I do know the

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Speaker 1: ideological or propagandistic theft of it illustrates your point here.

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Speaker 1: Civilization is simply at this junction not equipped to handle

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Speaker 1: this stuff. And know what do you think is gonna

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Speaker 1: happen with a I mean, like the point, Look, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna defend Donald Trump here, all right, might be a

665
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Speaker 1: hot take, but this guy saw a meme essentially right,

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Speaker 1: he saw a meme that he thought supported his campaign.

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Speaker 1: Did he exercise critical thought on this? Did he speak

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Speaker 1: with these people? I don't know, but he felt that

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Speaker 1: there was a campaign supporter, and he propagated the information

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Speaker 1: that he received, which many people do. And this may

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Speaker 1: sound oversimplified, but I would ask I would ask everybody

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Speaker 1: else to think about the older people in their lives.

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Speaker 1: How many times have you seen someone repeat, retweet, repost

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Speaker 1: a thing that they did not investigate?

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Speaker 3: No, no question about it.

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Speaker 4: And that's also a big Pandora's box of all of

677
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Speaker 4: this is this kind of stuff is just it's shiny,

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Speaker 4: it's new, and it's like easy to want to repost

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Speaker 4: as a is evidence by all of this, these images

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Speaker 4: just like totally flooding the Internet. And I you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm with you on the on the Trump assessment, there

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Speaker 4: no no, no question about it. But what does it

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Speaker 4: look like when the guardrails are completely off? We see

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Speaker 4: all of these products of loopholes and of this groc too,

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Speaker 4: having the guardrails largely off. Like what happens to the

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Speaker 4: stuff when there are no guardrails? And what's the uncut

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Speaker 4: version of this technology? That somebody has access to and

688
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Speaker 4: what does that stuff look like, especially as it gets

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Speaker 4: exponentially more powerful.

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Speaker 3: Let us know what you think. Take a break, come back,

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Speaker 3: one more piece of strange.

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Speaker 1: News, and we have returned. This is a special message

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Speaker 1: for any of our fellow conspiracy realist who have ever

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Speaker 1: had a dream where your teeth are falling out of

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Speaker 1: your mouth? Have you ever had that dream? Match? Have

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Speaker 1: you ever had that dream? Nol, Have you ever had

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Speaker 1: that dream? Code named Doc Holliday. Yeah, any losing teeth dreams?

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Speaker 4: Yea, yea, yeah, it's It's not one of my regulars,

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Speaker 4: but I've had it before, for sure.

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Speaker 3: I can't recall it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I have, though. That's such a common thing

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Speaker 2: right with humanity.

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Speaker 4: It is is one of those Freudian archetypes, right like

704
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Speaker 4: it means something specific.

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Speaker 1: There are turns out sort of a table of contents

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Speaker 1: of nightmares and the idea of losing something fundamental like fingernails, hair, teeth, limbs, philangees, tarsels,

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Speaker 1: things like that. They are fundamental to the human experience.

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Speaker 1: It is also part of the reason why people fear dentists.

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Speaker 1: A strange news story that we have for you tonight

710
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Speaker 1: Folks is an expose on dentistry. It turns out that

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Speaker 1: there is a criminal network in China that has been

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Speaker 1: stealing human bodies, not to not to do organ transplants

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Speaker 1: or organ harvesting. I'm sure that's part of it, but

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Speaker 1: they have been primarily stealing bodies for the purpose of

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Speaker 1: harvesting bones for dental implants. Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: Matt's face right now. It's true.

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Speaker 3: It's true.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Everyone. I want you to put your tongue

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Speaker 1: to whatever teeth you have in your mouth right now

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Speaker 1: and imagine they're not your own.

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Speaker 2: Done with that, Done with that, Ben, I was trying

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Speaker 2: to follow along with you. There's a I think you

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Speaker 2: linked to a what is this the South China News, No.

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Speaker 1: China Morning Post's non biased source.

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Speaker 2: But of course I don't have a free subscription to it.

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00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: So they're like, yeah, you can read the subtitle and

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Speaker 2: that's it.

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Speaker 1: So they you can also go to a couple of

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Speaker 1: other sources about this. There was a there is, i

730
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Speaker 1: should say, a group accused in Shaunshi of taking bodies

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Speaker 1: from crematoriums and medical laboratories and stealing the bone matter

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Speaker 1: and then using those like boiling it down, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: cremating it essentially into shards that are later used in

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Speaker 1: dental implants. So, if you've ever had a bone graft,

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Speaker 1: you don't know where, you don't know the providence of it.

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Speaker 1: This is this is just creepy nightmare fuel to make

737
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: all of us feel a little bit uncomfortable and feel

738
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Speaker 1: like we need a space of safety. So we want

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00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: to give you a space of safety. We're interfering with

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Speaker 1: your emotions, We're manipulating you a little bit so that

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Speaker 1: you receive the next piece of strange news with a

742
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Speaker 1: motive regard. Who will save you from a world full

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Speaker 1: of rock, from a world full of sinking yachts? Who

744
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: will save you from a world full of dead people

745
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Speaker 1: in your mouth via your teeth? Why it's Vladimir Putin?

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Speaker 2: Because oh, I really thought you were gonna say Wolverine

747
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Speaker 2: and Deadpool. Well, okay, all right, fine, yes.

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Speaker 1: We should check with them. It turns out we haven't

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Speaker 1: talked with we haven't talked with dead Bull or Wolverine yet.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, that's Wade and Logan, right, that's their non

751
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: superhero names. We haven't talked with Wade and Logan yet.

752
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Speaker 1: But we have heard from our buddy vlad He has

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Speaker 1: said as of just about seventy two hours ago, as

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Speaker 1: we record, he said, look, if you are having a

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Speaker 1: tough time with the Western world, if things just aren't

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Speaker 1: going right for you, we'll give you a safe haven.

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Speaker 1: You can move here to Russia. I want to point

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Speaker 1: out this specific statement. This comes to us from Business Insider.

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Speaker 1: On August twentieth, twenty twenty four, Vladimir Putin has signed

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Speaker 1: a decree that Russia will welcome foreigners who want to

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Speaker 1: escape quote Western liberal ideals end quote. So if you're

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Speaker 1: tired of all the shinagain's democracy, you know, if you

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Speaker 1: think Ukraine is making a big deal out of nothing,

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Speaker 1: then you could apply to become a Russian resident with

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Speaker 1: a path to citizenship, especially if you are aligned with

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Speaker 1: quote Russian spiritual and moral values. You can get a

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Speaker 1: visa within thirty days. Now, I imagine there are some questions.

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Speaker 1: First off, when do we go right?

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Speaker 3: Oh, well, maybe just for a quick visit. But I

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Speaker 3: had heard today.

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Speaker 4: I think about this specifically in relation to Alex Jones,

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Speaker 4: who's dealing with some you know, ruin financial ruin.

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Speaker 3: We talked about it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this guy from Waking Life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's back in the golden days and he was

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Speaker 4: just a young Austin, Texas shak chack. But yeah, he's like,

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Speaker 4: you know, facing financial ruin because of the very legitimate

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Speaker 4: case against him where he put people in genuine harm

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Speaker 4: because of his comments on Sandy Hook and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: But he posted on X yesterday or the nineteenth breaking

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Speaker 4: Putin just dropped a bombshell decree inviting people from across

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Speaker 4: the globe who are fed up with the globalist neoliberal

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Speaker 4: nightmare to seek sanctuary in traditional Russia, and then goes

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Speaker 4: on to say like things like what does he say

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Speaker 4: the usual bureaucratic nonsense like language tests or history exams

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Speaker 4: are out, you don't have to take them anyway. Whether

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Speaker 4: he understands fully this situation or not, it does seem

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Speaker 4: intriguing to mister Alec Jones.

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Speaker 2: And we're saying he's inviting like western countries to join,

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Speaker 2: like specifically countries that are composed in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and thank you for that, Matt. Absolutely you

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Speaker 1: can get a three month visa with as our buddy

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Speaker 1: Alex said, none of the quote bureaucratic nonsense regarding proficiency

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Speaker 1: in Russian or understanding of Russian history or basic laws

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Speaker 1: of the Russian state. You can get a three month

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Speaker 1: visa entirely to escape these troublesome democratic standards. The President

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Speaker 1: of Russia signed the decree and any foreign national will

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Speaker 1: be allowed here. So that means that means anybody who

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Speaker 1: maybe gets on the wrong side of the North Korean

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Speaker 1: tourist campaign, right, you know, like North Korea has opened

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Speaker 1: pretty much a one way tourist trip for anybody from

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Speaker 1: the West.

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Speaker 3: You can check out any time you like, but you

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Speaker 3: can never leave, and.

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Speaker 1: If it doesn't work out in Pyongyang, you can maybe

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Speaker 1: just head over to Saint Petersburg. You can request residency

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Speaker 1: based on the rejection of what Putin describes as again

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Speaker 1: destructive neoliberal ideals that differ from the traditional Russian spiritual

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Speaker 1: and moral values. There is going to be a list

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Speaker 1: of specific countries targeted or i would say incentivized with

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Speaker 1: this invitation. Obviously Canada, the United States, most of Western

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Speaker 1: Europe will be invited to participate in this program. Now,

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Speaker 1: why are we talking about this on stuff they don't

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Speaker 1: want you to do. We're talking about this because you

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Speaker 1: need to understand this is a trap. If you are here,

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Speaker 1: as if you are hearing this and you are not

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Speaker 1: currently in Russia. What you need to understand very clearly

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Speaker 1: is that if you go into this program, if you

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Speaker 1: accept this purported three month visa, and you are not

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Speaker 1: Edward Snowden and you are not Julian Assange, you will

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Speaker 1: be conscripted. I want to be incredibly transparent about that.

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Speaker 1: This way into the military, Yes, into the Russian armed forces?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Is that just your take? I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 3: trying I believe you. I'm just like I asked what

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Speaker 3: the catch was, and then what are you basing that on.

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Speaker 3: I'm very very curious. It sounds absolutely plausible. I just

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Speaker 3: am very curious.

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Speaker 1: Imagine you are, for instance, a Bulgarian national right and

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Speaker 1: you are incentivized somehow to get to Russia. First off, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to get there.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Let us also consider earlier decrees by the Russian state

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Speaker 1: quite recently. The conscription is real, right, the war continues.

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Speaker 1: This is a trap. Some far right figures, some that

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Speaker 1: would be called conspiracy theorists, have said this is an

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Speaker 1: escape hatch. Right, the same people who deny that Ukraine

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Speaker 1: has a right to you know, be its own country.

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Speaker 1: Those same folks are arguing that Russia is somehow a

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Speaker 1: safe haven. It very much is not a safe haven

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Speaker 1: anymore than jiong Yang is a cool like summer hangout. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: if I ruined anybody's vacation plans.

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Speaker 2: It's weird because I can see the psychological move if

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Speaker 2: we look at it on a big.

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Speaker 4: Check checkerboard, or just the weakening of the position, I guess,

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Speaker 4: or it's like, look, come to us, like leave your

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Speaker 4: you know, your oppressive country.

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Speaker 2: You know we have.

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Speaker 3: We come to us with what we have, open arms.

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, And that's not to say what you're wrong, bit,

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Speaker 2: but I could just see it as a move to hey,

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Speaker 2: we are welcoming in without conscripting anybody. We're welcoming in

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Speaker 2: people from the United States, Great Britain, We're welcoming people

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Speaker 2: in from India and across the world. And we're bringing

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Speaker 2: everyone in to now be Russian because you know, we

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Speaker 2: are the safe haven. We are we uphold family values

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Speaker 2: and traditional values. That quote make a person human.

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Speaker 3: M This is from the statement, right, that's the same

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Speaker 3: statement from.

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Speaker 1: That's his Victory Day speech.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but I just see that. I see it

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Speaker 2: as a one of those soft moves to just show like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we can, we can like y'all. Y'all's ideologies are so

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Speaker 2: shattered and weakened that we can just have this one

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Speaker 2: strong one and people are gonna like it. And you're

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Speaker 2: gonna see that people are gonna like it by the

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Speaker 2: response to the news we just made with this announcement.

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Speaker 3: It's like Dennis Rodman going to North Korea too.

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Speaker 4: It's just a big old embarrassment, right, you know, for

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Speaker 4: the United States when someone that's like a pop cultural

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Speaker 4: kind of icon or whatever is paraded around over there

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Speaker 4: and it's almost like, no, see, we've got Dennis now.

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Speaker 4: And I think, you know, pr wise, they'd only need

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Speaker 4: a couple of handful of folks to do this for them,

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Speaker 4: to prify it into being a success and make it

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Speaker 4: appear as though people are coming over in droves.

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Speaker 3: Do you do you do you see it that way? Ben?

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Speaker 1: I like the word pr if I that's a nice

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Speaker 1: that's nice. It just feels like that's what the good one.

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Speaker 4: The potential for weaponizing, you know, even just a handful

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Speaker 4: of people taking them up on this offer.

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Speaker 1: I can't have anyone saying a word against the worm,

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Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman, that's his street name.

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Speaker 2: It happened.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying, you know, I think he was maybe

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Speaker 4: a little clueless about it, but yeah, KI use that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a way of middle finger, you know, middle

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Speaker 3: finger to the US.

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Speaker 2: Well, they already stole like our top a keto guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: on the entire planet. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is the top guy. Yeah, he's the top guy.

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought up the Russian legend Stephen

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Speaker 1: the actor who is known for saying he is an

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Speaker 1: iiketo master, most famous for running into an actual ikto

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Speaker 1: master one time and getting choked out so much that

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Speaker 1: he shot his pants. That is the legacy of Stephen

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Speaker 1: sgal Uh. He has a home in Russia. And I see,

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Speaker 1: I see that might be a I take.

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Speaker 3: Also a famous sex pest and kimono opener.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say and collect her from when I hear

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Speaker 4: not a particularly awesome guid, so maybe they can have him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. This coincides with an earlier move by Russia. In

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Speaker 1: May of twenty twenty three, the Russian state announced the

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Speaker 1: creation of what they call a migrant village outside of

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Speaker 1: Moscow for conservative American expatriates. Be very aware, folks. If

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Speaker 1: you are American and you are hearing this, that is

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Speaker 1: not the place for you. They will leverage you the

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Speaker 1: same way that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea has

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Speaker 1: leveraged folks.

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Speaker 3: In the past.

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Speaker 1: You will not be a citizen. You will be a hostage.

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Speaker 1: The conspiracies are real.

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Speaker 3: Be safe.

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Speaker 1: That is inded on a downer. I suspect, but I

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Speaker 1: feel like that's important news. That's strange news, but it's

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Speaker 1: important right.

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Speaker 4: Interestingly goes hand in hand with the North Korean tourists openings.

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Speaker 4: I would say, I think, yeah, I think you did

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Speaker 4: a great job of wheezing those two in together, because

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Speaker 4: that was very interested in both of the stories.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe I just fell for some AI. Maybe Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Putin himself is already an algorithm. Let us know your thoughts, folks.

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