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Speaker 1: From the RAMS facility at Cal Lutheran. Welcome to Between

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Speaker 1: the Horns. I'm Miles Simmons. I'm here with DeMarco far

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Speaker 1: and we've got some free agency signings, yes, to talk

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Speaker 1: about right now. We're in between a couple press conferences.

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Speaker 1: Just heard from Robert Woods. Andrew Whitworth is on his

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Speaker 1: way here, so he will try to get this in

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Speaker 1: before he arrives. So we'll start with both of these guys. Yes,

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Speaker 1: what are your impressions of both of them? Oh? Well,

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Speaker 1: I like the fact that we were just listening to

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Speaker 1: the press conference with Robert Woods and as soon as

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Speaker 1: his coach, his head coach showed up, he mentioned Balking,

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Speaker 1: which is always Yes, very impressive. The first thing you

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Speaker 1: look at is his body type and now seeing him

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Speaker 1: in uniform go buy you on the field is one thing,

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Speaker 1: but you know, seeing a guy up close and street clothes,

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Speaker 1: impressive looking athlete. I love what he had to say

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Speaker 1: in there about Jared Goff, kept mentioning his quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: think that's important. Talk more about Goff than he did himself.

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Speaker 1: He didn't ask the question, which is great to hear.

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Speaker 1: So with all the guys that are leaving the Kenny

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Speaker 1: Britts of the world in a thousand yards that are

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Speaker 1: walking out the door. It's nice to bring in a

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Speaker 1: guy with it seems like he has limitless upside. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with that. Well, he's only twenty four,

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Speaker 1: and you know, that's something that's really interesting. I mean

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Speaker 1: we were before the show, you were just talking about

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Speaker 1: how he said, Oh, when I grew up, the Rams

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Speaker 1: weren't in LA I hurt my feelings, man. Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's just the way things say. Like he said,

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Speaker 1: when I was growing up, the Rams were gone. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, listen. He's younger than me, and like

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Speaker 1: I am very young, so like that that does make

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Speaker 1: a difference. So, but he's still been in the league

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Speaker 1: four years. You know, he was a receiver at USC,

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Speaker 1: did a lot of great things there, still a program

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Speaker 1: record holder. So I think it's just a really nice

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Speaker 1: story generally for him to be able to come home.

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Speaker 1: You know, theoretically, on paper, you could say the Rams

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Speaker 1: got better already just by bringing him in, with his

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Speaker 1: route running, his catch radius, his NFL readiness, you know,

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Speaker 1: leaving USC. I think he's been really well coached up

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Speaker 1: to this point. So Ken, Sean mcvagh and this group

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Speaker 1: take him to the next level, let's hope. So, but

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Speaker 1: I think that all has to do with Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: absolutely as well. I mean, receiver is only as good

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Speaker 1: as his quarterback. So as while we're talking about Woods,

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Speaker 1: we could be talking about Jared Goff in the same vein. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what's interesting is that he has been playing

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Speaker 1: with guys like EJ. Manuel and Tyrod Taylor. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to take anything away from who those guys are,

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Speaker 1: but I mean you just said it. The receiver is

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Speaker 1: only as good as his quarterback, right, So why has

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Speaker 1: he averaged about fifty excuse me, fifty receptions per year

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Speaker 1: about six hundred yards per year? Well, I kind of

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Speaker 1: look at the quarterback because right, yeah, it's funny. Remember

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Speaker 1: when Jared Cook was here, Yes, and he goes to

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Speaker 1: Green Bay and he's a completely different guy. Yeah right, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what did Jared Did Jared Cook all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: play football better at a higher level or did the

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Speaker 1: quarterback change both? Yeah? Perhaps, I think, but he was

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Speaker 1: still sort of playing it at that same level before

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Speaker 1: he made that one catch in the NFC Championship, right,

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Speaker 1: but that's another story. Jared Cook has always been Jared Cook,

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Speaker 1: but he just had Aaron Rodgers throwing to him. So

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Speaker 1: that's going to make a difference. Absolutely. But I do

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Speaker 1: like the fact that you're gonna grow up Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: with his own group of receivers that are around the

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Speaker 1: same age. Yeah, they're gonna be talking about the same

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Speaker 1: things and feel the same about the game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a long way to go, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure I hope it burns Jared Goff and the rest

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Speaker 1: of the guys that are that still remain on this

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Speaker 1: offense when you look for the rams in the offensive

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Speaker 1: stat column and it's all the way at the bottom

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Speaker 1: yea in most categories. I hope that burns. I hope

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Speaker 1: that wakes you up at five am in the offseason. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was interesting listening to Robert Woods talk about how

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Speaker 1: he feels like this is going to be an explosive offense,

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Speaker 1: and he was talking about things that Sean McVay was

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Speaker 1: a great sleight of hand routine because I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: it's all just football. The field mentions haven't changed, right,

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Speaker 1: There's only one way to score. We know that you

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Speaker 1: all this stuff motions and shifts just to get the

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Speaker 1: the run game to get Todd Gurley going. I know

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Speaker 1: last season was tough on everybody, including him, but I

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Speaker 1: still think the guy we saw as a rookie still exists.

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Speaker 1: I agree, and I hope that you can pull that out.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the ways that it's going to

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Speaker 1: You know, Woods had such a successful year against the

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Speaker 1: was his first kind of go round against the NFC West.

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Speaker 1: Is okay, this is kind of funny. So if you're

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Speaker 1: watching this, you can tell that we're outside, right, So

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Speaker 1: there's a car that has started because the guy well, okay,

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Speaker 1: and the funny part keep looking behind because the guy

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Speaker 1: walking to his cars Jared Goff. So Jared Goff. We're

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Speaker 1: like talking about Jared Goff and now Jared's like getting

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Speaker 1: into his car right now. Yeah, he's backing up and

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Speaker 1: backing out of parking lot. So, hey, guys, you just

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Speaker 1: learned that Jared Golf was at the letter. One of

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Speaker 1: those running reports on this was weird, but I gotta

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Speaker 1: added this out. This is the cool thing that's cool

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Speaker 1: about doing a podcast. Look, he's got new guys that

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Speaker 1: are showing up, tackle showing up. I mean, you might

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Speaker 1: want to stay and see your left tackle. And he's saying, well,

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Speaker 1: now he's probably got it's Friday. It's Friday, n LA.

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Speaker 1: He's got to beat the traffic going back down. The

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Speaker 1: only talking about want him to see, like Andrew Whitworth's

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Speaker 1: anything beyond that you're getting hit. Yeah. So the one

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Speaker 1: against the NFC wests last year. You know, you look

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Speaker 1: at his game against Seattle. He had ten receptions one

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Speaker 1: Wood's has gone against these guys that are good in

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Speaker 1: and he's one. Yeah, I think that's a great thing

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Speaker 1: to have. It's not rocket science. When you come down

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Speaker 1: what you know, people that you've seen against people that

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Speaker 1: you know. So bringing him in, um, look, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: but he picked here. They made the deal happen here.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that he's had success against those teams

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Speaker 1: one time, now you've got to do it twice a year. Yes,

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Speaker 1: when they know you're coming. So look, a great piece

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Speaker 1: for Sean McVay. So it was a great Signum, dare

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Speaker 1: I say, like we said earlier, you're better now than

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Speaker 1: your roster now. Yeah, well the other the other least

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Speaker 1: that is definitely bringing in Whitworth to play left tackle,

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Speaker 1: watch Joe Thomas even if the Rams aren't playing him. Well.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I find funny is that Whitworth

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Speaker 1: and so I think if Whitworth is not playing in

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Speaker 1: that more people hear about as being the kind of

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Speaker 1: left tackle that he's been over the last number of years. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: if you want to know how good he is, think

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Speaker 1: of Andy Dalton. You're right, I think that will give

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Speaker 1: and we'll figure it out, you know, going forward. I

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Speaker 1: do like that that's a good starting point, and it's

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Speaker 1: allows you to do that. But also in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: You know, he kept talking. Mcvagh kept talking about how

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Speaker 1: that's something that the RAMS might have been missing, particularly offensively.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean to, you know, talk poorly about

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Speaker 1: anybody that's been on this offense, but probably in that room, right, Oh,

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Speaker 1: think Jake Long was a guy that had been to

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Speaker 1: I meant Wells, Scott Wells had been to the Pro

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Speaker 1: that leadership is invaluable. So let's hope the other guys

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Speaker 1: where do you put him? Though? I don't know, isn't

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Speaker 1: going to question Wade Phillips. All right, I did not.

425
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,439
Speaker 1: I didn't play. I'm not going to Phillips. You you

426
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 1: have more clout than me on the first medicamp is

427
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 1: going to tell us everything. I just don't. I just

428
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 1: can't wait to see it. Yeah, So where do you

429
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 1: wign him up to begin with? Because I think I

430
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 1: think this about some of the other positions on the

431
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: defense as well, like your linebackers. Right, if you're gonna

432
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 1: play at three to four, who are the four and

433
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 1: where do they play? Right? And really who are the

434
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: three upfront? Donald Brocker's question mark right? It might be

435
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 1: Dominique easily right, because the Rams placed the original round

436
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 1: tender on him. So he's more than likely going to

437
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 1: be back because it's like a weird quirk because he

438
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 1: was a first round pick, even though it's the original

439
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 1: round tender, and that's the amount of money. Like he's

440
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 1: if somebody would want him, they would still owe the

441
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 1: Rams of first round picking compensation. Wow. Yeah, So you

442
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,479
Speaker 1: just gave me a headache with that, did I? Yeah, sorry,

443
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 1: that was a little too much for me. Let's go

444
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 1: back to three four Columbia. You know, that was weird.

445
00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: I told you that was That was me being a

446
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 1: mid That was maybe in a bit of a d

447
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: that was that was really bad. That was very pretentious. Headache.

448
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 1: That was so pretentious for me to say, just drop

449
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,959
Speaker 1: that Columbia in there. Wow, I can't even believe I

450
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: did that. Anyway, let's move. I'm not upset or no,

451
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm not. No, I'm if I'm upset with anybody, it's

452
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: myself for being that pretentious. That's all. You're good. No,

453
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't like I will hold it

454
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: against you. Thank you. You're all right, all right. So

455
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: the other thing that's sort of come up this week

456
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: throughout the week is the Trueman Johnson trade rumors. Yeah, yeah,

457
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 1: what I mean, where do you think that would really

458
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: help the Rams and in what way? Well, first, smart

459
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: to franchise him. Uh huh. Smart for him to sign

460
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 1: it immediately almost you know the keys that you get

461
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: out of that, Yeah, I mean immediately. That makes a

462
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 1: whole same thing with Kirk Cousins close to seventeen million. Um,

463
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: there's not too many guys in sports that would say

464
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: no or should say no to that much money. Just

465
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: saying maybe Lebron James could just saying well, yeah, maybe

466
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: thing I think he would like. He probably wipes his

467
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: butt with it could existed. Edit that I don't even

468
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: want to hear that. No, but um, but seriously, no,

469
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: the trade talks do not surprise me at all. But

470
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: you have to find a dance partner, right do you

471
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: think that's possible? I think it could be. Yeah, And

472
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: I think the only way you do is if it's

473
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: a team with a good amount of cap room that

474
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 1: hasn't need a cornerback and would like to sign Johnson

475
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 1: for a long term deal. Okay, right now, is there

476
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 1: anybody that jumps off the page? The Cleveland Browns that

477
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: probably would be that one team? Okay, And they're a

478
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: team that has been talked about by different media people

479
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 1: as somebody who would be you know, willing to possibly

480
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: trade for Johnson. I mean, heck, the Browns just traded

481
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: for brock Osweiler in like this weird kind of NBA trade,

482
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 1: which I sort of want to talk about later. But yeah,

483
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: isn't it forget it, let's go, Yeah kind of isn't

484
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: that that? But that's like an NBA thing. This is

485
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 1: the whole moneyball thing. Yes, and it's good luck. It's

486
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: very interesting. Good luck with that. Really. Yeah, you think,

487
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: how does that benefit you? Well, it benefits you, and

488
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: then you get a second round pick. That's it. You're

489
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: you're leveraging your picks in order to try to do

490
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: something else with them, and you have that cap space.

491
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: So really you help everybody. Good luck with you know,

492
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: with Houston. Houston gets um, yeah, come under that contract,

493
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: and then brock Osweiler will then someplace else I guess right,

494
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: So yes, good luck with that. But the reason why

495
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: Truemay Johnson has come up in these rumors is because

496
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: of his connection to Greg Williams. And then the another

497
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: team that has come up any sort of conversations is

498
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: in New York Jets. The Jets now have Denard Wilson,

499
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: who used to be the Rams defensive Backs coach. He

500
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 1: is now in New York with the Jets, and so

501
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: that's sort of why another They are another team that

502
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: has come up in this kind of discussion. But again,

503
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: I think you would have to in order to be

504
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: this dance partner, you would have to abb the cap

505
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: room to do it and be be really interested in

506
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: signing a long term deal with Johnson. Interesting. Um, I

507
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: would bet that he spends all of twenty seventeen here. Yeah, yeah,

508
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: that's that's my guest. A lot of people have asked

509
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: me is he a system corner? And I told him

510
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: I think he can play in any system now. He's

511
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: got the body type that fits what Greg Williams likes

512
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: to do. Right, definitely. I mean Greg Williams should covet

513
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: a guy like Tremaine Johnson. They worked for him last season.

514
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean the Rams didn't get beat over the top

515
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: that much, no, if at all. Yes, yes, there's some

516
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: of the least amount of passing plays for over forty

517
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: yards to go against the Rams. They were in the

518
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: top five. I can't exactly remember where there was my head,

519
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: there was success there under Greg Williams. So no matter

520
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: what system he's in, Tremaine Johnson is one of the

521
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: better young corners in the league, so he could play anywhere.

522
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: He can play in this system, definitely, right, Yeah, but

523
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me, uh with trying to trade a guy

524
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: like Tremaine Johnson to spe with a team that doesn't

525
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: have a first round pick this year. That makes a

526
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: whole lot of sense. But we else you're going to

527
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: trade well, right the trader and Donald You're not. Are

528
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: you really going to get a first round pick back

529
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: for Truman Johnson? I think the answer would be no,

530
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: particularly at seventeen million dollars nearly price of adding that contract.

531
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: But more picks is always better, right, Yeah, well, so

532
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: that's what I just said about the Browns. Yes, but

533
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: they're not trading the guy to cut him. Come on, okay,

534
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: yeah that makes no sense at all. Fine, fine, fine,

535
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: But like I just but you're saying more picks are better, right,

536
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: so you can if this were to happen and we're

537
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: really in the hypothetical territory, you would then get that pick.

538
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: Maybe you leverage that pick for you know, to trade

539
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: up to get another higher pick. The Rams do have

540
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: I think the thirty seventh overall pick in this draft,

541
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: that's two five second round, fifth pick and in the

542
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: second round. So it's not like, you know, they're all

543
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: the way at the end of the second round with

544
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: their with their first pick, they hap. No, they're in

545
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: the mix for some good players. Yeah. Yeah, it's just

546
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: who's available, right. You know, you got to see how

547
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 1: the first round, the first ten picks shake out, you know, usually,

548
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: and that will change the draft. But yeah, I mean

549
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: when you think about trade bait and capital to make moves,

550
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: I mean Hecker, Donald Tremaine, Johnson. Who else are you

551
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: going to trade to get premium picks back? I mean,

552
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: girly maybe to get you, but you can't. And there's

553
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: a lot of nos there. But I'm just saying, right,

554
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: but these are all players, I mean basically all the

555
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: players you mentioned, aside from Johnson, who is the only

556
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: one who's been involved in these rumors. I would think

557
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: that there are people that you want to keep on

558
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: this club. Yes, I mean, Johnny Hecker is an absolute weapon.

559
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: It's not just something Bell Belichick said that it's true.

560
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: I would tell him buy a house in southern California.

561
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: You're never leaving. Yeah, I'm gonna punt to your fifty yeah,

562
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a pretty fair assumption

563
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: to have because he's been as good as he's been. Yes,

564
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: and Donald too. Yeah, you're you're going nowhere. But yeah,

565
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: it makes but I would expect Tremaine Johnson to be here. Um,

566
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: he's your best corner period, end of story. Yeah, and

567
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: there's not much depth behind him right at the corner spot. Right,

568
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: that's something you also have to consider. I think we

569
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: saw that when he left exactly. Yeah. Yeah, So I mean, look,

570
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: that's why these rumors, you know, they're probably some truth

571
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 1: to him. And whenever my philosophy is this, whenever somebody

572
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: calls you and says, hey, I might have an offer

573
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: for wine, you gotta listen. Of course you do, unless

574
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: it's Aaron Donald, in which case you hang up the phone. Well,

575
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: I might listen and to laugh. What if they give

576
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: you five first round picks? Nobody's giving you five, but

577
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: you'd listen to that. I would listen to that. Yes,

578
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't attain it, but I Okay, So what are

579
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: what are some other positions that you'd like to see

580
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: the rams and maybe target as free agency goes on. Well,

581
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm still thinking backers linebackers. Yeah. Um, I think defensive line,

582
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: especially in this scheme, this three fourth scheme, will take

583
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: care of itself. You've got the pass rusher, You've got

584
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: Donald so you're right, and you've got Michael Brocker is

585
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: on the roster. You can fill in around those guys

586
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: with depth. I get that. But you're gonna need some

587
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: stand up outside guys. Yeah, guys that are trained to

588
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: do that. You may be able to get away with

589
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: a year or two of making a stand up guy,

590
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: but at some point you're gonna have to invest in

591
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 1: that position. Bring in guys that have done it on

592
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: teams that are out there that you can bring in

593
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: or look through the draft towards the end of the

594
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: draft for stand up rushers, you know, outside backers that

595
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: can drop. I mean, that's the one thing you really

596
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: don't have, you know. I would just say linebacker period. Yes, yeah,

597
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: just linebacker period, stand up inside, what have you? I'd

598
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: be looking at everything linebacker right now? Yeah, because your

599
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: death there is not great. Yeah, I mean we have

600
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: We've seen alec Ogletree, We've seen Mark Barron, you know

601
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: who still wears the safety number despite really being a linebacker. Now,

602
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: which I'm still a little bit confused by but Hey,

603
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: to each their own. But you've got those two guys,

604
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: Josh Forrest playing a little bit before he broke his

605
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: leg and the was out basically for the rest of

606
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: the season. Bryce Hagar still on the roster, cour Littleton

607
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: on the roster. But with guys who have really played,

608
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: it's ogletree, it's barren, and that's kind of about it

609
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: for that entire position. So I think you do need

610
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 1: to build some depth there. I may be in the

611
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: market for one, possibly two more guys that eat rusty

612
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: nail sandwiches, that have played eat rusty nail sandwich that

613
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: have played that position at a high level or at

614
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: least extended periods of time, eat rusty nail sandwiches. Tough guys.

615
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: Is that easier to say? Colombia to rusty nail sandwiches?

616
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: Seems gross. I'm like thinking of you gotta be tough

617
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: to eat a rusty nail sands, I know, but that

618
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: also sounds like you'd be sick, like it would tear

619
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: up your inside. Now what no, I mean, I'm just

620
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of this. Practically. We're on a field, man,

621
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: we are on the field. There are no there are

622
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: no numbers or anything, but we're outside. I know, he's

623
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: probably more interesting than talking to me. No, no, but

624
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: just a few more guys that have actually done it, yeah,

625
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: at this level, or had done it in college. Yeah. Yeah,

626
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: just to bring those guys in. So, I mean, there's

627
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of new teaching. But if you

628
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: bring a guy in that's already done it, well, you're

629
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: that much farther ahead. And I can see them doing that.

630
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean this kind of goes back to what we

631
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: were talking about with Whitworth, right. You know, he's a

632
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: guy that probably may eat those rusty nail sandwiches. Yeah,

633
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: and the guy holding it so he can bring in

634
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: some rusty nail sandwiches for the rest of the offensive

635
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: linemen to eat. They showed them the great example of

636
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: how you eat a rusty and nail sandwich. No mannaise,

637
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: I'll just say this one more thing, um, the guys

638
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: that you are going to train to be a stand

639
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: up rusher in a three four, most of them have

640
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: rushed the pastor for a living. So that's not the problem.

641
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: The problem is in this defense you're going to be

642
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: dropping too. Yes, yeah, and I'd rather I'd rather be

643
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: weak going towards the quarterback than going backwards. Yeah, especially

644
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: when I have Quinn and Donald. Right, I've got guaranteed

645
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: passwords here. I need some past dropping the building. You Know,

646
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: what I thought was kind of funny being at the

647
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: combine and sort of being in the room for some

648
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: of those drills that they were doing there is that,

649
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, you see these big men and they start

650
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: trying to drop and it's basically like defensive ends who

651
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: might get taken by a three or four team, and

652
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: they're basically trying to show that they can drop into

653
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 1: the flat or whatever. And I was looking at this

654
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, like, man, you're dropping like ten to

655
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: fifteen yards deep, Like are you really going to be

656
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: doing that? It's like yeah, it's like consider more. I'm like, yeah,

657
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: I guess you probably will, you know, depending on whatever

658
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: the situation is, because it adds another element to your

659
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 1: defense if you can do that and teams don't know, like, hey,

660
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, he might be rushing, but if he

661
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: goes back into that flat, he can go back there,

662
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: maybe he intercepts the pass. Let's let's put you in

663
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: a situation where you're playing the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, and

664
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: you're an outside backer. Okay, don't let Zeke Elliott get

665
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: to the outside, right, But if they pass it, stay

666
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: underneath Dos Bryant. Same thing. Good luck, good luck. Right,

667
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: But that's that's what the position calls for, right there.

668
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: So you're gonna need guys who are athletic. Excuse me,

669
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: one side. No, you're getting a fine. I'm getting fined. Yeah,

670
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: you're getting fined. Last time your phone rang when we

671
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: were into my brother past. It's my brother. You're supposed

672
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: to silence yourself. I didn't know. You didn't. Okay, it

673
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: may be silence, but it was still on brother, my

674
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: oldest brother. My mind is un do not disturb. I

675
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: should answer the phone right now now. You are not.

676
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: You don't have the cloud on this show. I should

677
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: answer the phone right now. Adams the cloud to do

678
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: that on NFL Live. You do not have the cloud

679
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: to do that on Between the Horns. Let me take

680
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: this kid, god, No, let's um. Let's go to a

681
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: couple other things in free agency before we move on here. Um,

682
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: some of the moves that the forty nine ers of

683
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: me and I think I've been pretty interesting. You know

684
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: they're using using all that cap room that they have

685
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: not necessarily taken the Browns approach, but they've added a

686
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: few guys and they're not going to be walked over.

687
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: I think in this division any longer odd to see

688
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers in the same category or the

689
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: same vein as the Cleveland Browns. Oh, I know what

690
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they have the number two overall pick right,

691
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: there are two and fourteen tight. When you who did

692
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: their two wins come against? Would you talk about the

693
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: New England Patriots, You talk about them with respect. When

694
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: you talk about the Cleveland Browns, it's usually at the

695
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: end of a joke, being serious. I know there's some

696
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: sort of joke there, and it's odd for me to

697
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: see the forty nine ers in that same vein. Yeah,

698
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: that's a proud franchise. I put them. I used to

699
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: put them on the same level as the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah,

700
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: I mean former one of one of America's teams. But

701
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: they are I mean, this is not necessarily the greatest

702
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: measure of this, but they have fans all over the

703
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: country right every look at how they they're their fans

704
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: on Twitter, their fans on Facebook, they're the millions, right,

705
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: So they are that brand and they still have that brand.

706
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: So what you're saying totally makes right there. They're your

707
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: father's father's father's football team. I mean that fandom goes

708
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: back even that far, you know, just a couple of generations.

709
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: It's a little bit a little bit before I was

710
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: growing up. You know, they were winning championship. Yes, so

711
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: to see them so far down shocking, but um, it

712
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: does not surprise me that they're trying everything they can

713
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: to come back up. So the first thing to do

714
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: is acquire talent. So I knew the forty nine team

715
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: that we saw last year wasn't going to remain Yeah, yeah,

716
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: that wasn't going to stay the same. They're going to

717
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: rebuild at some point. Yeah. Yeah, A funny story for you.

718
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: So Brian Hoyer, they obviously just signed him quarterback y

719
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: Cleveland guy. Yeah, so you know that means you know

720
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: into that. But the funny thing is his mom and

721
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: my mom worked together. Yes, yeah, his mom is a

722
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: nurse and so my mom was a doctor at one

723
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: of the hospitals. So like I've I've met ran Horder's

724
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: mom a bunch. I'm not, but I remember when he

725
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: was not because I would go a little movie. Yeah,

726
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess kind of come off a little

727
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: bit creepy, doesn't No. But so when when I was young, um,

728
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: and he was at Michigan State, my mom would go

729
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: do her rounds and so on the weekend, and so

730
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: I would go with her. She put me at the

731
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: nurses station or whatever, and so, yeah, I remember talking

732
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: to Baron Horror's mom. Ob Yeah, no, very nice lady.

733
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: You ever met someone's mom that you don't like? Not usually? No? Right,

734
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: always funny, how that works, just really good. I think

735
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: that's a tremendous move. Um. Yeah, I thought that. The

736
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: last time we saw Kaepernick, you know, beat the Rams

737
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: in mccaliseum, was probably the last time we're going to

738
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: see him in a forty nine Ers uniform. Yeah. Yeah,

739
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: you knew change was coming there exactly. Yeah. All right,

740
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: So here's another question I want to throw at you.

741
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: Where do you think Tony Romo ends up? What's wrong

742
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: with Houston? I don't think anything's wrong with Houston. Did

743
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: they already put it out there that they're not interested?

744
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so. He's not as of what three

745
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: three twenty two Pacific on a rabbit somewhere. I don't know.

746
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you did, I just haven't seen it. Look, he's

747
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: out of Dallas and there's a big gaping hole at Houston.

748
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: Makes sense to me. Yeah, it seems like Houston or

749
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: Denver seemed to be the two spots have been the

750
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: most talked about for him. Where would you go? I

751
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: don't know where he lives in Texas. I don't either,

752
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: but I know Houston is a lot closer to his

753
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: house than Denver. That's also true. You know, it's interesting

754
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: because at least in Houston you have an established coaching

755
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: staff and there have been some changes going on. In Denver,

756
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: they still kind of had that kind of nucleus of

757
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: things that have been there. But obviously Wade Phillips he's here. Yeah,

758
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: so then you know you've got a new head coach.

759
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't have Gary Kubiak anymore. So I think it's

760
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: an interesting question. I might go with Houston, Yeah, just

761
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: because of the way they were number one defense last year.

762
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: You know, you got JJ Watt coming back, you have

763
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: Jadvion Clowney on the other side him. Yeah, a quarterback

764
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: makes sense there. You know, I was hoping where he

765
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: would actually wind up, but Jerry Jones and Dallas played it,

766
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, really really perfectly on the way out. I

767
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: hope that he would wind up in Washington. Really that

768
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins with leave and Tony Romo takes over the

769
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: Red Skins to play Dallas every year. That would be weird.

770
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: It would be that would be almost be weirder, at

771
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: least to me. Then, like the Vikings uniform. Right, but

772
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: even Brett Fire had to go to New York first

773
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: and then and then back. Yeah, so who knows, maybe

774
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: he'll go Houston to or he or he goes to

775
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: Houston and takes over the state. Yeah, yeah, I mean

776
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: it could happen. You know, Tony Romo is an interesting

777
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: guy because I actually had somebody texts Dallas if you

778
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: ask me, oh yes, but that and that's sort of

779
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: what somebody was saying to me, is that he had

780
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: a friend and the friend was saying, you know, look,

781
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: Tony Romo was a top five quarterback in the NFL

782
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: when he's healthy. I don't know if I would go

783
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: that far. But because you also don't know, will Tony

784
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: Romo ever be healthy? And people always laugh at that,

785
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: but and it's interesting because listening to he can play.

786
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: He can definitely play. But people, you know, when you

787
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: talk about like pulling a Romo, people always think of

788
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: like choking in the fourth quarter. But he said that

789
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: about Matt Ryan more often true, more often than not. Yeah,

790
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: Tony Romo has gotten it done. Yeah, and so now

791
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: it's it's just this interesting thing. You know, Can Tony

792
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: Romo be that guy? I don't. I don't know. Turn

793
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: it over to Dak Prescott who had a hell of

794
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, hell of a year. But I was

795
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: talking to a Cowboys fan. I said, man, he's not

796
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: sure about Dak Prescott and I couldn't convince him either

797
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: way because it's only been a year. We'll see what happens.

798
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: But as a Cowboys fan, I know it made you

799
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: happy thinking that if Dak, you know, slows down, gets

800
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: hurt of what have you? You still got Romo coming

801
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: off the bench. Yes, that makes a whole lot of sense.

802
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: So it makes a difference. Yeah, I mean, you're out

803
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: on the tight rope now if you're the cowboy right

804
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: without Tony Romo. But if I could pick a spot,

805
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: I'd pick Houston for him. Okay, So Houston right, last

806
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: thing I want to throw at you before we get going,

807
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: and this is to do with your huskies. Because yes,

808
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: last week, John Rosso, yeah runs a four two two forty,

809
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: which is amazing. It was incredible, It was awesome. I

810
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: love Somebody called him Doc's Dolorean. Do you get the refs?

811
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: It isn't that back to the future? Yes, okay, remember

812
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: Doc's DeLorean when it took off when it hit eighty eight.

813
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: I've never seen back to it. He left a trail

814
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: of fire, that's what they called him though. Okay, yes,

815
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, I've never seen back to the future. Though.

816
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: I didn't hear you say that. Sorry, but the thing

817
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to here, I can't even hear

818
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: anything else you said. Oh, come on, how could you

819
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: not have seen back to the future easily? I've not

820
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: seen a lot of movies. I've never seen The Godfather.

821
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: I've never seen How could you not have seen The Godfather?

822
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: Seen Dumb and Dumber? Or I've never seen The Godfather's

823
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: on every weekend. I've never seen it. I've never seen it.

824
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: You've seen The Godfather? Thank you? We got people, We

825
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: got people walking past us in the parking lot. My

826
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: producer Josh is shaking his head at me. I know

827
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: I've never seen it. It's okay, but you're distracting me

828
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: from getting to the point I want to make. Did

829
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: you know that if John Ross had been wearing Adidas,

830
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: he would have won a private island? You haven't seen

831
00:39:55,160 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: back to the future, can't I hear? How could you not? Yes?

832
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: I heard about the island. Yes, Why wasn't your boy

833
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: wearing Why wasn't hewhere in Adidas? I don't know if

834
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: you knew you were going to run that fast? Maybe

835
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: he didn't want the island? I don't know. Would would you? Okay?

836
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: Would you have wanted the private island if you could

837
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: run that fast? Do I have to pay taxes on it?

838
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see if he's all the questions?

839
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, okay, so free? Like just free? Or

840
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: do I have to pay something? Say? Okay, but it's

841
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: it's a it's an island that's got I'm a million

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Speaker 1: dollar value, right, Okay? Would you rather have the island

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Speaker 1: or a million dollars? I'd rather wear the shoes that

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Speaker 1: are gonna make me run faster because I'm gonna make

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Speaker 1: more in the NFL than I am with this island. Okay. See,

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Speaker 1: and this is what people have been saying. But I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I would want the island. I want a private island. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So somebody figure out a way to get me a

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Speaker 1: private island. So you wear other shoes just because you

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Speaker 1: want the island, but you don't run as fast. How

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Speaker 1: do you know you wouldn't run. That's probably gonna hurt

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Speaker 1: your draft stock. I can guarantee you this. Guys that

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Speaker 1: do run that fast care about what shoes they wear,

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Speaker 1: and it makes a difference. I've never nobody has brought

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Speaker 1: it up to me like that. It makes it makes

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. Take away Todd Gurley's favorite shoes. See

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Speaker 1: what you get there? All right? I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: I but I just I don't know. I think he's

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Speaker 1: want to make more money in the league or with

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Speaker 1: this island. Well, he will probably make more money in

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Speaker 1: the league. He's more combine. All right, Fine, it's making

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Speaker 1: money in the league. But I'm just saying, like, even

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Speaker 1: in theory, if you have a chance to win a

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Speaker 1: private island, you wouldn't want the part. Okay, how about

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Speaker 1: get drafted the first round, go to the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: win a super Bowl and makes sense. Yeah there you go, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fine there all right. So well, I think that's all

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Speaker 1: we've got for you to future. Any other party shot.

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Speaker 1: Our friendship is over. Okay. Who's Michael J. Fox. He's well,

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Speaker 1: he has parkinson since he's now, but he's one of

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Speaker 1: the stars of that show. He also has been in

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Speaker 1: television shows. This was Between the Horn. I know we'll

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Speaker 1: never see it again, everybody, no, at least I hope not.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back soon on the next Between the Horns

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Speaker 1: for my producer, Josh. Thank you for putting this together.

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Speaker 1: DeMarco Farr. I'm Miles Simmons, wherever you may be in football.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time, all right,