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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, Everybody, Chris Brown, Steve Jasper. One Bill's Live

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Speaker 2: is the show. Thanks for joining us, and we are

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Speaker 2: day away from the final preseason game taking place twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours from right now, as the Bills take on

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Speaker 2: the Panthers in what is expected to be a largely

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Speaker 2: second and third team affair, as no starters will be

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Speaker 2: playing for the Bills. The word on the street is,

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Speaker 2: even though the starters are playing for Carolina, they're only

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Speaker 2: gonna go one series.

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Speaker 1: It'll be a brief media.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had production meetings with Brandon Bean and Sean

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Speaker 3: McDermott today and they're just they're doing the right thing.

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Speaker 3: I think, just they're ready. But you still think, like, man,

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Speaker 3: I wish, I wish could have got to been the game.

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Speaker 3: Last week is when they were going to play him,

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Speaker 3: and then the rainstorm hits and it's like, you know, no,

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Speaker 3: so they didn't do it, and they would love to

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Speaker 3: have gotten I think Josh even yeah, some reps in

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Speaker 3: the preseason we're laughing because if you're a coach or

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Speaker 3: GM and you you play your starters, awesome, if they

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Speaker 3: get out there, it works and come off the field

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Speaker 3: and you play the whole game. Who cares, come out

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Speaker 3: a whole healthy and everything. Everything's great, you're a genius,

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Speaker 3: You're ready.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Then somebody tweaks a hamstring or whatever and this, and

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Speaker 3: then he's like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: You before you fool?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's great when it works. If it doesn't work,

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Speaker 2: You know, that's essentially basically where it's at.

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Speaker 3: So it's a tough tough line to walk, but you know,

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Speaker 3: obviously they're I still.

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Speaker 2: Think, I think, I still think with this game there

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Speaker 2: are some interesting jobs still up for debate. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the return competition has been pretty interesting. We saw Daikwon Hardy,

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Speaker 2: a good return day. Now does anyone else enter the

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Speaker 2: a rookie, because we know that rookies are brought along

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Speaker 2: slowly here. That's been the general rule under coach McDermott.

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Speaker 3: That's right, and it's about there's two things in it. Everybody,

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Speaker 3: The two things that set them apart. One is the

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Speaker 3: decision making and do you when to fair catch it,

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Speaker 3: when to return it, when to let it drop, how

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Speaker 3: the returners or the coverage guys to follow you and

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Speaker 3: the other one, and that you got. The coaching staff's

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Speaker 1: How you look at it, you don't even have to

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Speaker 3: Just do something wrong, make a wrong decision, you mess

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Speaker 2: You can't think that way as a returner, though. You

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Speaker 3: Well, that's why you put the guys back. You put

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Speaker 2: Where's the mindset?

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Speaker 2: Kicking at me, buddy, Now, what's what happened?

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Speaker 3: I was fine. And I actually led the league in

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Speaker 3: wants to hear these old stories. The final game of

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Speaker 3: the regular season. We're playing the Oilers. I was the

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Speaker 1: Not playing this week. We're holding it because we had

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Speaker 3: It was one of those years where we were fine.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, he goes, I know you want

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Speaker 1: I was gonna. I was gonna lead the league.

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Speaker 3: You had to have sixteen returns on the year, one

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Speaker 1: And he knew it too.

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Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's probably one of the

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Speaker 2: There are some others too, but more along the lines

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Speaker 2: of the pro personnel department. You scour the league while

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Speaker 3: And then going into this last game, many teams, many

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Speaker 1: By my count, just off the top of my head.

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Speaker 3: There's thirty six players for the Bills who are off limits.

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Speaker 3: There's fifteen offensively and twenty two or something like that.

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Speaker 1: So that leaves you out of ninety.

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Speaker 3: That leaves you fifty oddly enough, fifty four guys available.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's gonna be a it's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: like you say, it's their opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, so some child some time to make your last

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Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and we begin with

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Speaker 2: a trade as the Seattle Seahawks Steve are at it again.

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Speaker 2: They traded a pass rushing linebacker. What was his name,

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Speaker 2: Michael Taylor, I think that was his name. He goes

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Speaker 3: No, it's I think if you got if you've got

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Speaker 3: much And I'm uh in getting to that. You said, Judon,

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Speaker 3: judn't actually remember Judn chose Atlanta over Chicago, that the

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Speaker 3: But it is interesting to see these trades take place

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Speaker 2: Knowing this is Buffalo's Week one opponent. Contract extension Steve

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Speaker 3: That's a good contract for eighteen a.

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Speaker 3: Some of this isn't about the position. Sometimes it's about

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Speaker 2: I deadlines, hard deadlines like the start of the regular season,

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Speaker 3: Know, you're either with us or you're not. And if

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Speaker 2: I think they're two very different style running backs. That's

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Speaker 2: number one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I listen. Nobody loves Thurman more than me,

440
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Speaker 3: no question. Yeah, but playing in the style of Thurman

441
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Speaker 3: isn't Thurman. And you got to be a Hall of

442
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Speaker 3: Fame quality back to do that, and a little premature

443
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Speaker 3: for that, Yeah, Race, it's a little early in your

444
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Speaker 3: in the career to say that about Ray. Now, I like,

445
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Speaker 3: I think Ray's going to be on the team and

446
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Speaker 3: he's gonna contribute. And believe you, if you're on the

447
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Speaker 3: team as a running back, you're gonna get a chance.

448
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Speaker 1: To carry the ball.

449
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Speaker 3: It's just the way it works in the NFL these days.

450
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Speaker 3: It's running backs, and if you have a running back

451
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Speaker 3: on your roster, he's gonna carry the ball because they

452
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Speaker 3: need him to. They want fresh legs in there. It's

453
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Speaker 3: just like rotating the defensive line on pass rush, fresh

454
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Speaker 3: rushers and fresh running backs.

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Speaker 2: So he'll get a chance. But yeah, yeah, that you're not.

456
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Speaker 3: James Cook had seventeen hundred yards from scrimmage last year.

457
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Speaker 3: He's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Ray. Isn't it funny how like it happens. Yeah,

459
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Speaker 2: everybody gets enamored and and there's a lot to like

460
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Speaker 2: about Ray Davis.

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Speaker 3: We had him here and he's gonna go yesterday. Heat

462
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Speaker 3: he's an NFL running back. He's gonna be good for

463
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Speaker 3: the team. But you got a guy's pretty good if Yeah,

464
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Speaker 3: you got a guy that's really good already. That's that's

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Speaker 3: why it's a hard position. He got a lot of

466
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Speaker 3: really good guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So he played well against Pittsburgh, There's no doubt

468
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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 3: We had him on the show yesterday and he's great.

470
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Speaker 3: He's a great dude, really great. You see why they

471
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Speaker 3: like him. Forget about how good he plays. He's a

472
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Speaker 3: great dude. So you know, yeah, no, James Cook is

473
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Speaker 3: not going if Ray The question is is it gonna

474
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Speaker 3: be Ray Davis or Ty Johnson?

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Speaker 1: Who's next?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it gonnapect both of them to play on Saturday?

477
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Speaker 3: So that could be interesting, right, So I think that's

478
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Speaker 3: the real question who's gonna be the next guy?

479
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Speaker 1: Because we've seen it happen too.

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Speaker 3: Just to just to quench your appetite for more Ray Davis,

481
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Speaker 3: we've seen it happen where the game goes off and

482
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Speaker 3: they get off maybe a slow start offensively, it's Ray

483
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Speaker 3: Davis takes a series and all of a sudden it clicks. Well,

484
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Speaker 3: you can bet he's going to be out there for

485
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Speaker 3: the next series and the next one and until he

486
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Speaker 3: until they stop him. That's the guy they go with

487
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: the hot hand here, and that's the best case scenario

488
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Speaker 3: for Ray Davis. But if it's going good for Ray,

489
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Speaker 3: it's probably going good for James Cook before him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to the phones at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

492
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Speaker 2: five fifty Any question you've got under the sun about

493
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Speaker 2: the Bills, the final roster the league get large? You

494
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Speaker 2: let us know. Let's go to uh Mark in West

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Speaker 2: Seneca to lead us off. What do you got for us? Mark?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Cursy, Steve, are you today?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 4: Good? That's good. Hey, I have a question for you guys, Chris,

500
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Speaker 4: I could sider you my personnel guy. So anyway, do

501
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Speaker 4: you have any idea of any team in the LEA

502
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 4: that plays a similar defensive style as the Bills. My

503
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: biggest concern with the roster all offseason has been safety.

504
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 4: I haven't believed for one minute that they've been deepening

505
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 4: up in enough and talent through the group of guys

506
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Speaker 4: that they have. The injuries have really thrown a wrench

507
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Speaker 4: into everything, and I'm curious if you think that there

508
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 4: might be a team Brandon Bean would be really focused

509
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Speaker 4: in on to watch their cuts to possibly bring in

510
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Speaker 4: a young player with some talent, or even a veteran

511
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Speaker 4: guy that's been around a little bit that would move

512
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Speaker 4: up the roster list of what we originally have right now.

513
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Speaker 4: And maybe he can ask Brandon if he does that,

514
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: if he has I know he's not going to divulge anything,

515
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 4: but does he single out teams that he really keeps

516
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Speaker 4: an eye on, because there's some players who would really

517
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Speaker 4: like to latch onto. That's my question.

518
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Speaker 3: Thanks, guys, Yes, the question you answer your question is

519
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 3: yes they do that. The problem is this, and we've

520
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: said here on the show, and you kind of forget

521
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: how it really works when all the cuts are made

522
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: in this Tuesday at four pm, like nine hundred guys

523
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: flood the waiver wire and say the Bills want a guy, Well,

524
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: they don't. They don't live in a vacuum. And here's

525
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 3: the problem. There's thirty one other teams, thirty two thirty

526
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Speaker 3: other teams. The one that cut them doesn't want them,

527
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: or maybe they do, and then there's the thirty teams

528
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Speaker 3: plus the Bills who have a chance at the guy.

529
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Speaker 3: The problem is this when all those cuts happen and

530
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: and the Bills say, Okay, I want that guy, that guy,

531
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Speaker 3: that guy, and that guy, they're number like, they're number

532
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Speaker 3: twenty what twenty six on the list, they're twenty six

533
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Speaker 3: on the list. So the Bears get the first pick,

534
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: the Panthers get the second Pickout the about that all

535
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: the way down until you get to the trunk. If

536
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: twenty six or twenty five other teams don't want that

537
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: guy you want, then the Bills get a chance at them.

538
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: So it's it's very unlikely the Bills are going to

539
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Speaker 3: get first pick, the first pick of the guys they

540
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: really want, because there's so many other teams that have

541
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Speaker 3: rights the first right before the Buffalo Bills do. So

542
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: that's how you know that's a problem. But yet the

543
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: injuries notwithstanding, I think the Bills felt really good about

544
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: the potential of the safeties they brought in talent wise,

545
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Speaker 3: if not experience wise, although Mike Edwards and Taylor Rapp,

546
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: Damar Hamlin and the rest outside of Cole Bishop, they

547
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: all had experience and played good reps in the NFL.

548
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Speaker 3: I think they felt really good about the potential of

549
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: the group and who they brought in. The problem is,

550
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Speaker 3: as you said, Mark, we haven't seen it because they've

551
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Speaker 3: all been injured. Yeah, and that's the real problem. I

552
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: don't think they doubt their players, they just haven't seen

553
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Speaker 3: it to this point because they haven't had a chance

554
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Speaker 3: to wrap it right.

555
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Speaker 2: No time in this system, no time with their teammates,

556
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Speaker 2: so they know how to play off of one another,

557
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Speaker 2: and they're gonna have to more than likely learn that

558
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Speaker 2: on the fly as the season gets underway, which can

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Speaker 2: cause a little bit of anxiety, not only for the players,

560
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: but for the coaches as well. Got to take a

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Speaker 2: break here, but more of your phone calls will lead

562
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Speaker 2: off with Bruce and Ken Moore when we get back here.

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Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 5: Radio tom Tomorrow, Saturday, August twenty fourth, the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 5: will welcome the Carolina Panthers for their last home preseason

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Speaker 2: dance party hosted by DJ Milk. A must see experience

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Speaker 2: year is set Dion Dawkins. That we see there? Who

580
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Speaker 2: it's Matt Mlono, Dion Dawkins, Josh and a fan?

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Speaker 1: Was that a fan?

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Speaker 2: A decked out fan? And I believe she is wearing spectacles.

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Speaker 1: And zoobas appropriately enough.

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Speaker 2: People available now those go fast. Steve, Oh, I know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I know, I've seen it firsthand. Yeah, I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: it's not like it was out at the Wegmans.

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Speaker 2: It's not quite Cabbage Patch Dolls in the mid eighty

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Speaker 2: It's not where people were literally fighting each other for those,

591
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Speaker 2: but it gets people. There's a rush.

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Speaker 1: People were lining up at four am.

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Speaker 2: There's a rush. So yeah, so get them all.

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Speaker 1: They're hot.

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Speaker 2: We got to get back to the phones. Here on

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Speaker 2: an obl fan Friday mail bag for any and all

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Speaker 2: of your questions eight h three oh five fifty to

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Speaker 2: five fifty. Any question you've got on the bills, roster cuts,

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Speaker 2: whatever the case might be, fire them off at us

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Speaker 2: and we'll do our best to answer. Then we go

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Speaker 2: to Bruce in ken More as promised.

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Speaker 6: What's up, Bruce, Hi, Chris and Steve. Two things first.

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Speaker 6: A few weeks ago, Steve had talked about the culture

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Speaker 6: in training camps back in his eerr and he described

606
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Speaker 6: what sounded like a lot more violent and interactions between

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Speaker 6: the players, and he said, over time that's lessoned due

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Speaker 6: to the result of the players and management. And I'm wondering,

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Speaker 6: if you could discuss without going into names, exactly what

610
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Speaker 6: was it like then how did it change? The second

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Speaker 6: thing is I wanted to refer to the American Football League.

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Speaker 6: Last month, Abner Haynes passed away and it wasn't in

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Speaker 6: the Buffalo papers, but he was one of the great

614
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Speaker 6: early players of the AFL. Hank Stram described him as

615
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Speaker 6: the first franchise player before there were franchise players. He

616
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Speaker 6: could run, he could catch passes like Thurman, but he

617
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Speaker 6: also returned punts and kicks, and I believe he still

618
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Speaker 6: holds some offensive records for the Dallas Texan slash Kansas

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Speaker 6: City Chiefs. He also off the field, helped integrate the

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Speaker 6: North Texas State college football program, and he also, along

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Speaker 6: with Cookie Gilchristen some other players, led the boycott to

622
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Speaker 6: move the AFL All Star Game in nineteen sixty five

623
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Speaker 6: from New Orleans to Houston because of the horrible racism

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Speaker 6: they encountered. The second player I wanted to talk about

625
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Speaker 6: was Butch Bird. I just wanted to add my voice

626
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Speaker 6: that I hope I see him on the Bill's Wall

627
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Speaker 6: of Fame someday because he's still the Bills all time

628
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Speaker 6: interception leader, And in the sixty five AFL Championship game,

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Speaker 6: he had I think a ninety one yard hunt return

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Speaker 6: for a touchdown, which was the backbreaker when they beat

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Speaker 6: the Charges. And that's all I had to say.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Okay, thanks for the history lesson there, Bruce, appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm Abner Haynes is before my time. I know the name.

634
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Speaker 2: He is on the Ring of Honor in Arrowhead Stadium,

635
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Speaker 2: so we see his name every time we go there.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little too young to know his exploits. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: did you get a chance to know too young little

638
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Speaker 2: before me? Because I was figuring you catch Chief games perhaps, but.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah I did. I was a Chief fan when

640
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: I grew up because I was living in that state,

641
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Speaker 3: and and they were when I was six years old

642
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Speaker 3: they won the Super Bowl or yeah five years old, uh,

643
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Speaker 3: seven years old? Yeah, so it was yeah, I was.

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Speaker 3: I did not know him, but I knew all those

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Speaker 3: Lindy Dawson and that crew, Otis Taylor and Buck Buchanan

646
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Speaker 3: and and those guys. I knew those or was familiar with,

647
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Speaker 3: and they didn't know me. I mean, I you know

648
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Speaker 3: what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And then but Bird, Butch Bird, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Forty two career interceptions for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Which was a great player. And it's.

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Speaker 3: Bruce from Ken Moore calling thanks for the history lesson

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Speaker 3: it was. They're getting to be fewer and fewer people

654
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: who remember those great players in the past, just like

655
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, fewer and fewer people remember me playing. Most

656
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: of them remember me now as a car guy, right,

657
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: So so it just gets that way. But it's it's

658
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 3: hard to keep those names alive. But you know, putting

659
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: him on the Wall of Fame would certainly be.

660
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, butch Bird was on the Buffalo Bills fiftieth Anniversary

661
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: All Time Team, so he has been I think properly

662
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: recognized by the organization and by the fans, even those

663
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: that never saw him play. You know, they look at

664
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: his career arc and say, oh, you know what, that's

665
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: pretty dang good.

666
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: Let's yeah, if it's good in that, yeah, if it's good,

667
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 3: and it transcends.

668
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: Every era there you go. Yeah.

669
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: The stuff about the violence in in the practices and stuff, yeah,

670
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 3: it is less violent. There's less contact. They don't nobody

671
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 3: tackles anymore. There's never any real live contact in practices anymore,

672
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: even when they go pads, so there's less chance of

673
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: guys getting frustrated, which leads to fights. When I played,

674
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: there was a lot of contact. There was a lot

675
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: of live drills. We were going twice a day. Guys

676
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: were exhausted and frustrated, which led to a lot of tempers,

677
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 3: loss and in that. In my day and age too,

678
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: it was commonplace and a wink and a nudge that

679
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: some of the big guys and a lot of the

680
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 3: big guys were taking steroids to help them be physically

681
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: able to play uh and those had the side effects

682
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: for those were a short temper and yeah, a short

683
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: temper mixed with an incredibly strong guy with a big,

684
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: bad temper, and two of those guys going had to,

685
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 3: you know, toe to toe in a fight. You almost

686
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: had to pull them apart. You had to have other

687
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: guys that were big and strong to pull them apart.

688
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: First of all, a guy like me or a coach

689
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: wouldn't even try to step in on a fight like that.

690
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: You'd have to have guys that were wearing helmets and

691
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 3: pads to be protected so that you pull them apart.

692
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 3: And they would have and usually you pull guys apart

693
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: and you push them apart, it's like that's enough. Back

694
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: in that day, you had to pull them apart and

695
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: hold them for a second until they snapped out of it.

696
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: That's how far down the anger path they were. They

697
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: were in a black hole of anger they were. It

698
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: was a death match and you had to.

699
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: Hold them.

700
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: To make sure they did jump back on the ground again.

701
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: Until until they finally came out. I said, okay, I'm

702
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: all right, let me go. I'm good, I'm good. Then

703
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: you let them go. Otherwise it was crazy.

704
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: That comes, and that just comes from managing human beings,

705
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: doing smart, common sensical protocols league wide that keep that

706
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: stuff from happening and keep place from escalating. That's why

707
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 3: you now see joint practices are really the only place,

708
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: the only fertile ground for frustration when guys start to

709
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 3: get because they don't want to be disrespected by their opponent,

710
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: because that's the ultimate white flag for you and your team,

711
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 3: and you don't want your teammates to think you're giving

712
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: up or being disrespected by an opponent. So there's a

713
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 3: little bit of that macho thing going, no question about

714
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: macho stuff going, and it's a lot about respect and

715
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: showing respect and being respected. That's really the only fertile

716
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: ground there is anymore for fights like that.

717
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: And even so.

718
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 3: Without that added chemical imbalance that used to come from

719
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: that era of steroids, you guys just don't go that

720
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: far anymore, you know, they just don't get to that

721
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: off the charts anger and that's that's that's a plus.

722
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: That's a good thing.

723
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, back to the phones and to Mark in onlyan

724
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: what's up?

725
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: Mark, Hey, Steve, you guys put on a great show.

726
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Thank you.

727
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 6: I asked a question, what happens to the onside kick?

728
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: So the on side kick is it's still a part

729
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: of the game, but there are greater restrictions now than

730
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: there were before. So basically what happens is the only

731
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: time you can make use of an on side kick

732
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: is in the fourth quarter, and if you are trailing

733
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 2: in the football game. After that, you have to declare

734
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 2: it to the official because obviously an on side s kick,

735
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: your cover team is going to line up differently than

736
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 2: they would on the new dynamic kickoff.

737
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: In addition to that, not after that.

738
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 3: In addition to that, you gotta you can only use

739
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: it in those situations, and you have to declare it

740
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: because everything everybody's to line up different.

741
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even so in that case, they would

742
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: do it like it's traditionally been done. They will line

743
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: up alongside their kicker on the other side of them

744
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: standing start And yes, it still has to go ten

745
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: yards to be recovered, so you have to declare it

746
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: beforehand and once and we asked this question of the

747
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: league Steve. Once you declare it, you cannot change your mind.

748
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: So if you declare it and then you're like, oh man,

749
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that here, And even if

750
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: you call time out and change your mind, it's it's

751
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: too late. Once you make the declaration that you're going

752
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: to kick an on side kick, you cannot change out

753
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: of that. Even if you call a time out, you

754
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: are committed to it. You got to run it. But

755
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: knowing it's going to be late in the game, fourth quarter,

756
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: when you're behind on the scoreboard. Anyway, I can't see

757
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: anybody change in their mind really to any degree. One

758
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: of the problems is the on side kick had has

759
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 2: become less and less and less successful over the years.

760
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: I think the success last year was like three and

761
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: a half percent.

762
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't it. It's just never going to happen.

763
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: And I think what they will do is do away

764
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: with the on side kick and give the offense a

765
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 3: fourth and fifteen or something from their own end.

766
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 2: I think that's coming.

767
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: I've been proposed a problem with that, particularly since the

768
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 3: new kickoff rule looks to be a real play again.

769
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: I mean it's you're getting everything's being returned. It's a

770
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: mistake when the when the kicking team doesn't put it

771
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: in play, and it's a mistake for the receiving team

772
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: if they don't return it. So all of that leads

773
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: to it being an actual play.

774
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: Now.

775
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: As how successful it's going to be and how often

776
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: guys are going to break one loose, that remains to

777
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: be seen. But giving the fact, given the fact that

778
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 3: it is back in the game and it does look

779
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: to be much better than it's been in decades, I

780
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: would say they wouldn't have a problem within the fourth quarter.

781
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: You can go fourth and fifteen anytime, you know.

782
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: Break time for us here, but more of your phone

783
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 2: calls when we come back. We'll lead off with Ryan

784
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: on a cell when we return. As it's an OBL

785
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: Friday fan mail bag here on One Bill's Live, presented

786
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: by Kellida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back

787
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live on a Friday, Chris Brown,

788
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. OBL Friday fan mail bag is

789
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: open for any and all questions you might have about

790
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: the Bills, the roster, the league at large, whatever the

791
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 2: case might be fireingment off at us at eight oh

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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty one eighty eight five point fifty two,

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00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: five fifty back to the phone as we go, and

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00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 2: as promise to Ryan on a cell, what's.

795
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 7: Up Ryan, Chris Schemes, love this show. Happy Friday, guys.

796
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 7: Question for you guys, I'm really confused about how McDermot said,

797
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 7: no start. They're playing tomorrow, so that means that you

798
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 7: only has to twenty three man rosters set already, and

799
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 7: then these guys are gonna be playing for a backup

800
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 7: position or for the practice squad. I'm just asking me.

801
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 7: I'm loo clear that for me.

802
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, for the most part, I think a

803
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: lot of the starting roles are are assumed or taken

804
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: care of at this point. There are exceptions. We were

805
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, the primary return man on this roster.

806
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: I think that's still to be decided. Perhaps one of

807
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: the starting safety positions that's going to be alongside Taylor

808
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: Rap could be a little up in the air, but

809
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: that's due more to injury than anything else. And you know,

810
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 2: beyond that, yes, you're you're largely talking about receiver five

811
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 2: and six, tight end number three. You know, backup linebackers

812
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: things like that. So, yes, you're right, Ryan, it's mostly

813
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: reserve roles that are trying to be nailed down here

814
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: on Saturn.

815
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: More specifically, not for us so much, but for Brandon

816
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: Bean and Sean McDermott, the coaching staff and all the

817
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: personnel people. They're trying to formulate which fifty three guys

818
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: will win the most games. So, for instance, if you've

819
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: got two return guys on and like just as an example,

820
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 3: kJ Hammler and Daikwon Hardy day one, Hardy's a defensive back.

821
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: kJ Hamdler is a wide receiver, and which one do

822
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: you want to be the return guy? And if you

823
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: get one or the other, well, the other side doesn't

824
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 3: have doesn't need that roster spot. You can use another

825
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: wide receiver for dak one heart, for aj Klein, kJ

826
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: Handlers spot, you can use a different wide receiver there.

827
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: You can you know, Justin Shorter gets plugged into kJ

828
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: Hamler spot or any of the other guys you can name,

829
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: Andy is a Bell or whoever, And so that changes

830
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: the roster on that side the ball because you've got

831
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: a return guy from the other side of the ball

832
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: now and you've switched it around. It's the same thing

833
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 3: in reverse. Now you've also got other special teams considerations.

834
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: You know, who's gonna be the front line of kickoff,

835
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: who's going to be the front line of kickoff return,

836
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: all of that stuff, and whoever plays that better or

837
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 3: who plays it good enough may depend on how well

838
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: like a Joe and Riesen is playing really good down

839
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: in distance, and he's also really good on special teams.

840
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: So now you can let a different guy, you can

841
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: release a different guy because you've got those two things

842
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: covered by one guy, see what I'm saying. So they're

843
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 3: the bottom half of this roster, and how that fits

844
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: together has a lot to do with special teams, with

845
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 3: backup positions on the down and distance plays and who's

846
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: better at all of those and what mix you have.

847
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 3: So it's a it's a real complicated layer by layer job,

848
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 3: and tomorrow will have a lot to say about it

849
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: when you get into regular season. All these guys are

850
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 3: gonna play and at some point you may be everything

851
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: may depend on that guy. You don't know how it's

852
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: gonna fall, so you want to make sure you get

853
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: it right. And that's what tomorrow. A lot of it

854
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: is tonight. You're right, a lot of the starters, whether

855
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: we like it or not, they've decided on probably.

856
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: And when you have a finite number like fifty three

857
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: and you have far more than that to put into

858
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: those fifty three spots, one invariably effects another. Whether it's hey,

859
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: we really got to carry six defensive ends. We can't

860
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: let any of these guys go, Okay, where are we

861
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: gonna go short? Then what position's gonna suffer because we're

862
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: carrying an extra at defensive end? And then you have

863
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: to make that decision and that could have a cascading

864
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 2: effect on another position that you know, all, well, we're

865
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: only going five linebacker, so no one, we're only going

866
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: to have two linebackers or three linebackers for all our

867
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: special teams units. Maybe we have to carry an extra

868
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: tight end to put on special teams because we got

869
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: one less linebacker to make use of every Sunday. And

870
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: so now you're you know, so there's a cascading effect

871
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: that that really is why these guys have to pour

872
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: over all the decisions that they're making and decide what

873
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: is best and most beneficial for the team.

874
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: That's right, and it's it sounds convoluted, and it is

875
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 3: because you've got coaches who have a guy they like,

876
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 3: but he's not a special teams coach. He's a dB

877
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 3: coach and he likes this guy defensive back, but your

878
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: special teams coach is over here going no, no, this is

879
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: the dude I need over here. And then you got

880
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: a head coach going on. You know, is he going

881
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: to play a lot on special teams or where is

882
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 3: he going to see most of the action because that's

883
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 3: where we want him, you know, that's where we want

884
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: to go with. So you get that kind of conflicting

885
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: opinion about who wants who, and that all has to

886
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: be ironed out as well. So it's it's it's a

887
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: big it's a long process, and now they've done it.

888
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: It's been ongoing since the beginning of training camp. They

889
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: have regular meetings where every guy on the roster is evaluated.

890
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: Is he is he ascending? Is he declining? Is he

891
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: up and down? Is he inconsistent? Does he have one

892
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: part of his game in under his belt and the

893
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: other ones he's still struggling with. Everything goes into the mix,

894
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: and it's it's a constant, ongoing issue. We don't ever

895
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 3: get to hear about until you know, we get to

896
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: talk about it here in this last week of the

897
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: preseason when they finally do have to show us what

898
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: they think.

899
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but when we

900
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: come back, we're going to be joined in studio by

901
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: Bill's General Manager Brandon Bean to talk about some of

902
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: those very roster decisions that he and his personnel department

903
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: and the coaching staff have on their plate this coming weekend,

904
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: coming out of this Bill's Panthers' final preseason game. We'll

905
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: chat with him about that when we return here on

906
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

907
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

908
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back our number two here on a

909
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: Friday on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Task please

910
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: to be joined now by Bill's General Manager, Brandon Bean,

911
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: whose appearance on the show is presented by Northtown Automotive Companies,

912
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: the official automotive dealership of the Buffalo Bills. Whatever you're

913
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: looking for, you'll find it at Northtown. All right, Brandon,

914
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: We're getting down to the nitty gritty here, roster wise,

915
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: final cuts coming up on Tuesday, last chance to make

916
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: a good impression for a lot of guys on this

917
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: roster on Saturday against the Panthers. Do you feel like

918
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: you've got more I don't know. I don't know if

919
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: question marks is the right word here, Brandon, But you

920
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: had a pretty established roster last year, more turnover in

921
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: this past offseason than most. Does that mean you have

922
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 2: more answers to find in getting to your fifty three

923
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: this time around? Maybe in comparison to the past couple

924
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: of years.

925
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 8: I would say there was definitely through this time. And

926
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 8: you're right, we're nearing the very end. And you know,

927
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 8: as we a month ago when we got to Saint

928
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 8: John Fisher, you're going, all right, these guys are battling.

929
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 8: These four guys are battling for these two spots. These

930
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 8: you know, unless someone comes out of the dark, this

931
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 8: is how you naturally do that going in. And so

932
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 8: I do think there was probably starting this camp than

933
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 8: a year ago.

934
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: More battles.

935
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 8: Doesn't mean you're not going to like your final fifty

936
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 8: three better, but more things to be settled because you

937
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 8: either draft picks, free agents, new players, guys who have

938
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 8: not established themselves as a starter. Just with with some

939
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 8: of the turnover, you know, as we've talked about all

940
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 8: off season. But we, like you know, we think some

941
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 8: of these things have shaped shaped themselves out as long

942
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 8: as you know, health remains where it's at and you know,

943
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 8: and then there's a few guys that have you know,

944
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 8: the safety and linebacker position, we've had some some injuries

945
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 8: and uh, some of those are going to have to

946
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 8: be projections when you if you're going to keep a

947
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 8: guy who hasn't been able to get you know, get

948
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 8: out on the field and stay. So we've been working

949
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 8: through that, but not every position, you know, we're not.

950
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 8: I can't sit here and say I know what the

951
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 8: fifty three is. That's that's not accurate. There's still some

952
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 8: things to be settled, separative injury, and then yes, I'll

953
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 8: huddle up with our medical people after this game. We'll

954
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 8: run through where everyone's at and make sure that we

955
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 8: have the right team ready for Arizona Week one.

956
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 3: That's been the real problem for this one of the

957
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,959
Speaker 3: real problems for this training camp is evaluation of guys

958
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 3: who you thought were probably gonna make the fifty three

959
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 3: and you have me be able to see him cold.

960
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: Bishop Mike Edwards to name a couple, and then the

961
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: quarterback spot mitched Trubisky, and because of the injuries, then

962
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: your starters become even more valuable and sacred not to

963
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 3: play in the preseason and so you can't they can't

964
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 3: get well oiled and ready to play either. So you

965
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 3: it's a different training camp. Has been a really different

966
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 3: training camp for you guys in the personnel side.

967
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say you're right, some things are pretty

968
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 8: you know, determined. Yet a guy like whole Bishop, you

969
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 8: would love to see young guy getting those reps. We

970
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 8: invested a high pick and we think he's he's gonna

971
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 8: be great.

972
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 9: You know, he's he's gonna be on the roster and

973
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 9: all that.

974
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 8: But yeah, you would love for him to have got

975
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 8: those reps and see if he could have won, you know,

976
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 8: a job you know, next to you know, to t

977
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 8: Rap or whatever. But we're still ironing that out. Who

978
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 8: will who will start next to next to TP. That

979
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 8: is one of the question marks, you know, going into

980
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 8: Week one. Like some others. You know, Nick Marr is

981
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 8: a guy that's been a versatile backup at linebacker, had

982
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 8: the core muscle uh surgery in the off season and

983
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 8: then again still had you know, some effects working his

984
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 8: way back. He's been out as well. And yeah, you

985
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 8: know Trubisky. You know, the week before Shane Michelle goes out.

986
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 8: Who I thought Shane was having a good camp. The

987
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 8: game did not go as well as Shane you know, would.

988
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 9: Have would have liked. I was when that game ended.

989
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 8: I was like, I can't wait for this kid to

990
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 8: get back out there next week and and redeem himself.

991
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 8: And unfortunately the injury calls him to be on IR.

992
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 8: And then the next you know, last week in Pittsburgh, the.

993
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: Knee for Mitch.

994
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 8: So yeah, we still got to get all that finalized

995
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 8: and see will Mitch be available week one or not.

996
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 9: You know, we still need to find out about that.

997
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's part of the advanced plan. I mean,

998
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 2: guys in the personnel department, you guys are advanced planners

999
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: by trade. Like you've got to plan for those potential

1000
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: contingencies if they come up. And you know, I know

1001
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 2: coaches is still optimistic and doesn't want to rule players

1002
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 2: like Valdez Scantling or Quinton Morris or Mitch Trubisky out

1003
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 2: for week one just yet, because there is time. There's

1004
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 2: two weeks and who knows. But you've guys got a

1005
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: plan for the worst case scenario as personnel people. So

1006
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 2: how does that process work with your people in that

1007
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 2: department over this next I don't know, six to ten

1008
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: days where you may need to have answers at the

1009
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: ready in case one of those injuries does go the

1010
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 2: wrong way and it's not week one availability or maybe

1011
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: even week two availability. You've got to have answers for.

1012
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 9: That, no doubt.

1013
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 8: And you got to look at we're obviously what is

1014
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 8: on our roster, and who do we think we can

1015
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 8: get to practice squad that could help. Do we need

1016
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 8: to keep someone that maybe we wouldn't have if we

1017
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 8: don't think one of these guys can play, Do we

1018
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 8: need to ir someone? You know, all those questions come up,

1019
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 8: and then you're right, Tuesday comes and what else is

1020
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 8: out there? Let's compare that to what we currently have,

1021
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 8: as we do every year. You don't just assume when

1022
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 8: you make that final fifty three that it's one hundred

1023
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 8: percent you're staying with it. You've got to assume that

1024
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 8: someone could come out there veteran or on the waiver wire.

1025
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 9: Now again, if it's.

1026
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 8: A really good player in the waiver wire where we're

1027
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 8: at the odds of us getting them is not very

1028
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 8: high if it's a veteran, though, those guys can choose wherever.

1029
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 2: So we will definitely monitor.

1030
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 8: All that and see where we can fill in some

1031
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 8: of these depth spots.

1032
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 9: And ready for everything.

1033
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 8: We've had a lot of conversations going through if the

1034
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 8: roster looked like this, what would be our priority here

1035
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 8: for practice squad? Do we fill like we need an upgrade?

1036
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 8: So we kind of have gone through position by position

1037
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 8: with my pro staff of you know, sitting down with

1038
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 8: those guys and kind of laid that out going into

1039
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 8: this game again, what happens injury wise.

1040
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: And do they do They kind of also handicap the

1041
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: other rosters around the league, like, hey, it's looking like

1042
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: this guy is not going to make the roster here.

1043
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: This guy might not make the roster there. Let's keep

1044
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 2: a close eye on those because those are players we'd

1045
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: be interested in.

1046
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, we definitely have guys that we say, hey, this

1047
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 8: is a claimable player. That's it's going to be down

1048
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 8: to this guy or this guy in our system. If

1049
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 8: he's released, he's a claimable. The next one is he

1050
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 8: would be a practice squad priority if he's released and

1051
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 8: maybe they don't want him, or we can talk to

1052
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 8: the agent after release and have him on our practice squad.

1053
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 8: He would be an upgrade over anyone we would put

1054
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 8: on it. So and if we lose a guy he

1055
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 8: gets claimed, We've had guys claimed every year, right that

1056
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 8: we hope to get to practice squad. If we lose

1057
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 8: this guy, this would be our pecking order of replacements

1058
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 8: on practice squad, or this would.

1059
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 9: Be our next guy.

1060
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 8: Maybe there's a guy on our roster that we're going

1061
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 8: to choose someone else over, but we like him close

1062
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 8: and so if the guy above him gets claimed, we

1063
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 8: would still be content, you know with this player on.

1064
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated, right.

1065
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, give walk us through like the possibilities. Now, what

1066
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 3: you're able to do with a guy like Matt Mulano specifically,

1067
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: who is going to be a minute for him to

1068
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: get back?

1069
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're not letting him go anywhere?

1070
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: What a he able to do with his IR like

1071
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 3: hold him put him on the Mitchell fifty three, then

1072
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: put him on IR that kind of stuff. And what's

1073
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: that mean for exposing some guy who to waivers who

1074
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 3: would have been on the fifty three head Malona been healthy.

1075
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what, They've changed the rule this year,

1076
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 8: so it got passed at the owners meeting. But in

1077
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 8: the past we had to do kind of the roster shuffling.

1078
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 8: We've done it with Reid Ferguson, We've done it with

1079
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 8: some different guys for a day. They've they finally came

1080
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 8: to their senses and passed a rule where we can

1081
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 8: put two guys on our at the fifty three cut

1082
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 8: and designate them that they are guys that could potentially

1083
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 8: come back later in the season. And so at this

1084
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 8: point that's the most likely planned for Matt. And you know,

1085
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 8: we have no ideas timeline truly yet. He just had

1086
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 8: you know, had it fixed and and so we'll you know,

1087
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 8: we'll wait that out a little bit and if he

1088
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 8: can come back, great, you know, you know, obviously you

1089
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 8: would always want a Matt, but that's down the line.

1090
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 9: We're going to focus on on, you know, week one

1091
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 9: and who can help us there.

1092
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: As far as Saturday afternoon goes against the Panthers, Brandon obviously,

1093
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: you're going to get a nice long look at second teamers,

1094
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: third teamers, and there's an opportunity there for them to

1095
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: either cement to practice squadspot as you mentioned, or maybe

1096
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 2: even challenge for a roster spot. I know we've seen

1097
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: video of you with our embedded series of hoping somebody

1098
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: runs a slow forty time and the combine. Are you

1099
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: kind of hoping that some of your guys don't put

1100
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: too good a tape out there? If you have thoughts

1101
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 2: of practice squad for them for fear of getting claimed,

1102
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: like you've had just about every season.

1103
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 9: It's funny you say that. I mean, you don't cause

1104
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 9: you get in the game. It's it's wild.

1105
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 8: Like even last week it's what nine to three, six

1106
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 8: to three, and it was six to three and I'm like, man,

1107
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 8: let's score a touchdown. You still like to win the game,

1108
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 8: right feeling, And when it was a field goal, it's like,

1109
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 8: all right, a touchdown and we lose this game ten

1110
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 8: to nine. You know you don't want, I mean, or

1111
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 8: potentially lose it. And so you still you're when right now, yeah, like,

1112
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 8: let's protect all our players, let's don't play the game.

1113
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 9: Let me get those guys.

1114
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 8: But during the game, it's out of sight, out of mind,

1115
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 8: I'm losing competitive juices. I'm rooting and if a guy

1116
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 8: that we're trying to get makes a big play, I'm

1117
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 8: gonna be excited now Sunday I may say Dan like

1118
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 8: I wish he hadn't done that.

1119
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: Now now if we expose him.

1120
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: We're in trouble, you know, Carolina.

1121
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, fifty to fifty he's gone or something like that.

1122
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: But it is what it is.

1123
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 8: You root for these guys and listen if a guy

1124
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 8: can make another fifty three, you know, I'm also rooting

1125
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 8: for the player in the individual, especially someone who's fought

1126
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 8: hard for that opportunity.

1127
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: So give me an idea if there is one.

1128
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 3: Do you is this keeping track of all the other

1129
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 3: practice squad or all the other rosters and the cutdowns,

1130
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: And do you send people out to certain games other

1131
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 3: preseason games to watch them or do you just do

1132
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: it complete one hundred percent on film because everybody rewatches

1133
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 3: the film anyway, But do you have.

1134
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: Guys on site as well?

1135
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 9: We do?

1136
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: And what do you get out of having a guy

1137
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 3: on site rather than just watching the film.

1138
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's not as good as when I go

1139
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 8: to a college game. A college game, I can go

1140
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 8: down there on the field, I can body type these guys.

1141
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 8: I can see them up close, like we're on the

1142
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 8: practice field.

1143
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 9: They're not allowed that access.

1144
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: It's it's up there.

1145
01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 8: It's just something about the live feeling, understanding the whole holistic.

1146
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 8: You know, the game, the film cuts in cuts out,

1147
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 8: so you kind of get a feel for how they

1148
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 8: made the play in.

1149
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 9: The moment, the magnitude of the game.

1150
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 8: Maybe you saw the injury, maybe it was away from

1151
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 8: the film, you know, whatever it is this guy or

1152
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 8: you're watching them care for him, like I don't know

1153
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 8: if this guy's coming back. So there's definitely something about

1154
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 8: being there and seeing eyes. But yes, even when they

1155
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 8: go to those games, they're gonna come back here, break

1156
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 8: that film down, and yeah, our pro guys are all

1157
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 8: I think I've told you guys this before. They're all

1158
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 8: have to be the GM of those rosters and so

1159
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 8: not that they're gonna make every one of their teams.

1160
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 9: It's just not feasible to do that.

1161
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 8: But they try to get some looks in the preseason,

1162
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 8: especially if it's a team early in the year that

1163
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 8: we may be playing, just to get a look on

1164
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 8: some players, just to help them as they're going to

1165
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 8: prepare our coaches for the advanced scouting that week.

1166
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know that the ultimate goal is

1167
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: to get the best best fifty three on your roster.

1168
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: But position needs coming to play at times. In terms

1169
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: of numbers, I'm looking at your defensive end position, I'm like,

1170
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 2: how do they not go heavy there? With all the

1171
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 2: talent you've got a defensive end, But to do that,

1172
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: you've got to rob from some other position. Maybe just

1173
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: walk us through those kinds of conversations that you guys

1174
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: have when you've got talent that you really don't want

1175
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: to let go of and you know you can't clear

1176
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: through waivers and stick on the practice squad. Does how

1177
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: do you wrestle with those?

1178
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1179
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 8: It's hard because you do when you line it up,

1180
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 8: you want to do it like playground style where I

1181
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 8: just want to take the best player every time. But

1182
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 8: there are position minimums you've got to go in, you know,

1183
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 8: to a game you can't and so how do you

1184
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 8: Is there an asset at a position? You know, we'll

1185
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 8: use your analogy here a defensive end. Is there an

1186
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 8: asset that we can use there to either get a

1187
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 8: pick to use for or player for player or whatever

1188
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 8: to help us where maybe we're hurting with some depths

1189
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 8: some of these injuries we've talked about. So you're looking

1190
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 8: at all that you are truly trying to pick the

1191
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 8: best fifty three. And we've done that here before. I

1192
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 8: know one year we kept like eleven d linemen. I

1193
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 8: think at the fifty three that's a little excessive, but

1194
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 8: we want to be strong upfront, so we decided that

1195
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 8: was an area off.

1196
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 9: If we're gonna be heavy, let's and.

1197
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 8: You are, you're you're robbing from someone somewhere else. So

1198
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 8: it's very important there. Okay, if we strike injury where

1199
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 8: we went a little thin, what do we have on

1200
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 8: the practice squad? We got to really make.

1201
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: Sure who insulate yourself, who we can get.

1202
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 9: Through and or do we need to get someone else?

1203
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 8: So it's what's our short list options either on our

1204
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 8: practice squad or on another practice squad.

1205
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 3: Right, that's yeah, it's complicated, right, I mean, and plus

1206
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 3: there's so many uncertainties even with this game tomorrow. So

1207
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 3: you got this game coming up tomorrow, you're gonna watch

1208
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: your guys closely, and.

1209
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: Not for nothing. It used to be here we go

1210
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: maybe back in my day, you send a guy out

1211
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: there and you say you need to hurt your back.

1212
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1213
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, so you have there.

1214
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean you need and I know you

1215
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 3: guys don't do that because it's kind of a against

1216
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 3: a philosophy, but but you got to watch your own roster,

1217
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 3: particularly this one with the playtime and the guys that

1218
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 3: are injured, because as it always happens, injuries always happened

1219
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: in the same position all of a sudden, like you got

1220
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 3: three safeties down through your top your top three safeties

1221
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 3: maybe Cole Bishop, Mike Edwards and DeMar Rap's been good,

1222
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: he's been available. But it's a real issue that you

1223
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: got to watch in this game and what kind of

1224
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 3: conversations you have with Sean about how to handle that.

1225
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we ultimately, you know, part of you know,

1226
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 8: we are resting starters, you know, for the most part

1227
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 8: this week, just to give some of the guys that

1228
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 8: haven't played as much, and you know, basically you're kind

1229
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 8: of altering your practice schedule for those guys, trying to

1230
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 8: make it practice a little more physical for them instead

1231
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 8: of the game, to keep them calloused up and give

1232
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 8: them that one on one competition. So that's where you

1233
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 8: try and tweak it. If they're not going to play tomorrow,

1234
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 8: which they're not. And you're right, you don't want to

1235
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 8: stack up a bunch of casualties because every dime you're

1236
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 8: paying for putting guys on ir injury settlements, that comes

1237
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 8: off your cap. So you do the best you can.

1238
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 8: You got to play the game. You hope guys don't

1239
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 8: get injured. Sometimes they do. But I will say to

1240
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 8: your point, I think that happened more in your day

1241
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 8: when practice squads were five to eight. You know, there's

1242
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 8: sixteen practice squad spots. So if most players on this

1243
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 8: roster should feel that, hey, I can be one of

1244
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 8: those sixteen, because now veterans can be on there, and

1245
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 8: those were the ones.

1246
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 9: You know in our roles, you're always worried.

1247
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 8: About adding a a kg veteran late that you can't

1248
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 8: be on practice squad.

1249
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 9: He's counting numbers. But any of our vets could join

1250
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 9: the practice.

1251
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 3: So there's been some offseason talk about the eighteen game

1252
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: schedule and what they're gonna do with the preseason. To you,

1253
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 3: what are your thoughts about adjusting the preseason? You got

1254
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 3: three games now, used to be oh my gosh, decades

1255
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: ago was six and then this was four for for a

1256
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 3: long long time. Now it's down to three with a

1257
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 3: seventeen game schedule. It seems an inevitability. The eighteen game

1258
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 3: schedule is gonna come be two preseason games. What are

1259
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 3: your thoughts about, what would you how would you tweak

1260
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: the preseason? What are they heading the right direction?

1261
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 8: Well, if they're going to do eighteen games, you know,

1262
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 8: and we'll see where that goes. I think you're gonna

1263
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 8: have to up the rosters. Maybe there's a double buy.

1264
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 9: You know, you got to you gotta help these guys get.

1265
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me that. What's the roster for that?

1266
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 3: I mean if you were doing it and there was

1267
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 3: gonna be another another game, Yeah, and say you start

1268
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 3: two weeks before Relateabor Day, the entire league takes a

1269
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 3: buy on Labor Day weekend, and then you have the

1270
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 3: sixteen game schedule with a by sprinkled in there.

1271
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 2: That's the tasker plan.

1272
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: By the ways of my plan, it's probably gonna happen.

1273
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure.

1274
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,919
Speaker 3: So, but how would you handle you know, the what's

1275
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 3: your perfect number for that to get through that?

1276
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1277
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 8: You know, I don't know what the perfect number is,

1278
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 8: but you know, right now we can take forty eight

1279
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 8: it used to be forty sixty game day. I would

1280
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 8: definitely say you're gonna have to up your game day numbers.

1281
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 8: And I think the practice squad numbers are good, but

1282
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 8: maybe you could up at fifty five to fifty seven

1283
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 8: somewhere on game day. No, no, I'm saying you're actiferent

1284
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 8: roster and then to me get your your game day

1285
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 8: roster from forty eight at least to fifty you know

1286
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 8: what I mean something like that. I think I think

1287
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 8: that would help you because that protects some of your

1288
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 8: frontline guys from having to play teams because you know,

1289
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 8: right we still you know, Micah and Jordan those they

1290
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 8: still had to go out and play a phase here

1291
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 8: or there. You may be able to protect.

1292
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: Return kick return something like that you had to be

1293
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: out there.

1294
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, you still you may be able to keep it

1295
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 8: just a designated returner and not have to throw one.

1296
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: Of those guys specialis. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So I think there's different ways you can you can

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Speaker 8: do it, but I would be a proponent for upping

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Speaker 8: it now, to be honest with you, just uh, it's

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Speaker 8: you're trying to make your product the best, and I'm

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Speaker 8: not telling I'm more talking about the game day than

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Speaker 8: the fifty three.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, give fifty game, give.

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Speaker 8: Give them fifty and just gives you more. It's it's

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Speaker 8: a better product. It's a hard game, it's a physical game.

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Speaker 8: We're already at seventeen. Like help help us get the

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Speaker 8: best product for January when it matters the most.

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Speaker 2: Brandon, thanks for the time, as always, we appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with that decision making you've got over the

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Speaker 2: weekend and into early next week.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and play some golf this weekend. You're

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Speaker 3: not probably not going to be free.

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Speaker 9: I'm out this week, but I look forward to our

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Speaker 9: next time.

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Speaker 2: Yourself gloves have been shuttered for sure. We have to

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Speaker 2: take a break. We'll be back with more here on

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Speaker 2: a Friday on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Help.

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Speaker 10: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Obl Friday fan mailbag is open

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Speaker 2: for any and all of your questions. Couple of other

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Speaker 2: tidbits we wanted to pass along. This came out Peter

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Speaker 2: Schrager from Good Morning Football put out his top ten

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Speaker 2: list of twenty twenty four breakout players. Steve A. Bill's

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Speaker 2: player made the list, checking in at number eight on

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Speaker 2: Schrager's top ten. Khalil Shakir. He joined Jalil McLaughlin the

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Speaker 2: running back for the Broncos, Tory Taylor, the punter for

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Speaker 2: the Bears, Malcolm koontz ub Product for the Raiders, Deontay

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Speaker 2: Banks for the Giants, the corner Brian Branch safety for

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Speaker 2: the Lions, Bucks linebacker yah Yah Dyabi, Trey McBride the

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Speaker 2: tight end from the Cardinals, Kenneth Walker running back from

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks, Jayden Daniels, your quarterback for the Washington Command.

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Speaker 3: Now here's the thing for me. If it's an offensive

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Speaker 3: player and it's not Jayden, and Daniels is a pretty

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Speaker 3: good pick.

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Speaker 2: They've been raving about him down there and his leaders qualities.

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Speaker 3: But everything else unless it's if it's a wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: a punter, running back, tight end, running back, I always

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Speaker 3: look at I look at the quarterback. The guys are

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Speaker 3: throwing getting thrown right, and Khalil is the only one

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Speaker 3: that moves the needle right.

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Speaker 1: The defensive guys. That's a little bit of a crap shoot.

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Speaker 3: You really don't know which rookie defender or breakout guy

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Speaker 3: in the league is going to break out?

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Speaker 1: Who hasn't yet? Uh?

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Speaker 3: And you got to look at you know, was there

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Speaker 3: a coaching change, was there philosophy change, did the did

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Speaker 3: the decks get cleared in front of him? Or did

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Speaker 3: he get healthy? There's a lot of factors in there.

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Speaker 3: And I know Pete. I like Pete a lot, and well.

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Speaker 2: He talks to a lot of people, so he knows

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Speaker 2: who's showing up and showing out in camps around the league,

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Speaker 2: who's looking primed for a strong season.

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Speaker 1: Get it. But here's the look at it. Look at

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Speaker 1: the Bills guys.

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Speaker 3: So we had like nine thousand guys injured this preseason.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk about this on the broadcast tomorrow and

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Speaker 3: you you and he probably will as well. This has

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Speaker 3: not been a just buy the book preseason for the Bills.

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Speaker 3: They've had so many guys injured, so much turnover that

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Speaker 3: you know, the starters have played like two plays. Josh

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Speaker 3: got pulled out of the Bears game because he made

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Speaker 3: a play, because he made a play with his legs.

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Speaker 1: I mean there. It just has not been according to

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Speaker 1: script for the Bills.

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Speaker 3: So how do you know in that case, I don't

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Speaker 3: know how you say Khalil's going to be the guy.

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Speaker 1: We haven't even seen Khalil play. Has he caught? He

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Speaker 1: caught a ball maybe two in the preseason.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's hard. So if any other team, any

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Speaker 3: of these other teams are like the Bills, are similar

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Speaker 3: to the Bills, you have, there's no way to anticipate.

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Speaker 3: I applaud Pete for giving it a shot. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I think it's fun to talk about. But man, oh man,

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Speaker 3: that's a big ask.

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Speaker 2: It's project it's projection and prediction season.

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Speaker 1: We're still kind of the list making you know, this season,

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Speaker 1: but gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Trey McBride the tight end for the Cardinals. This

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Speaker 2: is a guy that the Bills liked in the draft.

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Speaker 2: He went the year before the Bills took Dalton Kincate.

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Speaker 2: And I know the Bills really like Trey McBride, who

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Speaker 2: ultimately went to the Cardinals. I think it was his

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Speaker 2: second round pick if I remember correctly. Good player has

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Speaker 2: has some route running skills, pass catching type tight end.

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Speaker 3: These lists make you think of the big picture. McBride,

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Speaker 3: gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: You got to keep an eye on in week one.

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Speaker 3: It's my point, right, but he's also got you know,

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Speaker 3: Kyler Mary, Kyler Murray for the first time.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: They didn't have him for the first half of last year,

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Speaker 3: and he's coming off that injury. So Kyler Murray gets

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Speaker 3: a full off season, and now that you know, you

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Speaker 3: kind of think maybe their relationship will take off on

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Speaker 3: the field. I see that that makes some sense in

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Speaker 3: that level. And you're right you when he came out,

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Speaker 3: you thought he was going to be a really good

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Speaker 3: tight end.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Let's dive into the mail bag on the tweets sheet

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Speaker 2: side of things, and another Jack asks why couldn't or

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Speaker 2: didn't Bean and the Bills make a trade like the

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Speaker 2: one the Eagles made to get Dotson Intra division. By

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01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 2: the way, Kid is good and could have helped us

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01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: and cost Philly very little. Bills say they're always looking

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Speaker 2: to improve the roster, but not making that move seem shortsighted. Well, Jack,

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Speaker 2: I'll counter with this, the Bills already have plenty of

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Speaker 2: slot receiver options, Johan Dotson. I see, as a slot receiver,

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Speaker 2: you already have Khalil Shakir, who he just mentioned is

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Speaker 2: on the top ten list for breakout players, and then

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Speaker 2: on top of that you have Curtis Samuel. I don't

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Speaker 2: think there's a place for Johan Das on this roster.

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Speaker 2: I don't think financially it would be a major lift

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Speaker 2: because the Bills are tight against the cap as we know.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think it would be a major financial

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Speaker 2: lift because Dotson is still on his rookie deal. But

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Speaker 2: I think they already have answer is that that role.

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Speaker 9: I like.

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Speaker 3: He's played for two years, twenty two and twenty three.

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Speaker 3: He's got a total of eighty three receptions.

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Speaker 2: Right, he played with Sam Howell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he played with the same quarterbacks that Curtis

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Speaker 3: Samuel played with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And if you think the Bills aren't familiar with the

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Speaker 3: Washington roster, think again. I mean they did a lot

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Speaker 3: of work on Curtis Samuel and Johan Dotson didn't move

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Speaker 3: the needle for them. There's nothing Listen. I was high

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Speaker 3: on Dotts when he came out, too, but he's a

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Speaker 3: small guy. He's five to ten buck eighty. He's one

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Speaker 3: of those guys. There's been nothing on him in the

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Speaker 3: last two years that I I've seen that would make

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Speaker 3: me say wow, we should have gotten him, you know,

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Speaker 3: I just don't know. I like the guys we got

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Speaker 3: better than him, and he's played in the year at

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Speaker 3: league for two years. I'm I'd rather have Khalil Shakir

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Speaker 3: with his history with Josh and what he brings to

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Speaker 3: the table and all the other guys that kJ Hamler

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Speaker 3: is another guy in the same boat as Dotson, high

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01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 3: draft pick, a little injured, getting a fresh start, and it's.

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Speaker 1: The same guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm theoretic. I mean, they're not the same guy, but

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Speaker 3: the skill set is similar, So I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Johan Dotson trade is notable because he

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Speaker 3: was the first round pick. I get all of that,

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01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 3: but that doesn't even That's not even a blip on

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Speaker 3: my radar as to why the Bills would not get

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Speaker 3: in on that. The Bill's got plenty, I think in

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Speaker 3: regards to a guy like that, just like Brownie said.

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Speaker 2: John on the tweets Sheet says, there is uncertainty with

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Speaker 2: another preseason game ahead, but I'm thinking that every one

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Speaker 2: of Brandon Bean's ten draft picks may just make the

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Speaker 2: roster with Clayton in a special category. Props to the GM.

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Speaker 2: How often has this happened.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we have a graphic with all

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Speaker 3: ten draft picks on it, but they are. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's Keon Coleman making the roster, Cole Bishop making the roster.

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Speaker 3: Ulafotio that's a question mark, right, Ray Davis making the roster.

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Speaker 1: Travis Clayton the last guy picked.

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Speaker 2: He's just going to be an international player designation because

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Speaker 2: he's been hurt all camp in preseason. Tyland Grable good

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Speaker 2: chance to make the roster, Dake one Hardy, good chance

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Speaker 2: to make the roster, Dwayne Carter making the roster.

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Speaker 1: And who's the.

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Speaker 2: Last Javon Solomon Javon Solomon Van Praying Grainger Van Praan

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Speaker 2: Granger makes it and I think Solomon makes it as well.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if they're.

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Speaker 3: Going to go wire to wire hold Dwayne Ray, Cedric

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Speaker 3: the one that baby. I mean, maybe they have a trouble.

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Speaker 3: They maybe have Well, no, the international guy will make

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Speaker 3: it as a special designation. The only guys that are

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Speaker 3: really on the bubble in this list maybe maybe Grabel

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Speaker 3: because of the depth, and Cedric Van Pramt, but I

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Speaker 3: think he'll I.

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Speaker 2: Think Van Pran Granger and Alex Anderson are your two

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Speaker 2: interior backups and they both play center and guard. They've

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Speaker 2: cross trained there.

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Speaker 1: And Eddie Utlfocio maybe he maybe.

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Speaker 2: He missed a lot of time with the rib injury. Uh,

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Speaker 2: he is going to play tomorrow, but he missed a

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Speaker 2: lot of time with the rib injury. And with the

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Speaker 2: loss of Milano, do they side with a more experienced

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Speaker 2: player as a reserve behind you know, the perceived starters,

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Speaker 2: which are Dorian Williams and Terrell Bernard. Do they go

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01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 2: veteran experience there or do they go youth at yet

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Speaker 2: another position in terms of depth because they're probably only

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Speaker 2: keeping five at linebacker. And then the question becomes, when

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Speaker 2: is Balin's they're going to be healthy again or is

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Speaker 2: he going to go to ir And then you keep

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Speaker 2: a guy like Yulafotio and then juggle the roster later

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Speaker 2: down the line when Specter's healthy. Where does Nicholas Moro

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Speaker 2: fit in here? He's been heard almost all preseason.

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Speaker 3: Say this, though it's a good tweet because it is

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Speaker 3: does seem like the Lion's share of these draft picks

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Speaker 3: are going to not only make the roster, but be contributors.

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Speaker 2: I think it has happened before in Bean's tenure as GM,

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Speaker 2: with all draft choices making the roster, but it was

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Speaker 2: in one of those years where they only had like

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Speaker 2: six or seven picks.

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Speaker 3: Might memory, sir, it might have been twenty eighteen with

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Speaker 3: Josh Right Yeah, first his first draft, because they McDermott

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Speaker 3: had a draft before Brandon Bean in seventeen in seventeen,

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Speaker 3: so I think eighteen might have been that.

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Speaker 2: I do believe it's happened before, though in this current regime.

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Speaker 2: Rick asks, have the Bills ever paid tribute to their

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Speaker 2: four Super Bowl teams during the season with a reunion

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01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: celebration culminating with either a pregame or halftime on field

1509
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 2: ceremony during a home game, It's long overdue. If they haven't,

1510
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 2: I don't think that's happened, has it.

1511
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: They've had other things where most of those guys got back.

1512
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: There were there were twenty.

1513
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 3: Two players I think at all four there were twenty

1514
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 3: two players that played on all four teams. Then of

1515
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 3: course there were dozens and dozens of others who played

1516
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 3: on one or two or three of the teams, and

1517
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 3: all those guys overlapped of course as well. They've had

1518
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 3: you know, I've been a part of the fiftieth All

1519
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 3: Time team. They've also had plenty of instances where those

1520
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 3: guys have gotten together. They all show up when Jim

1521
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 3: and Bruce and Thurman and Andre and James and Marv

1522
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 3: and Bill all went into the Hall of Fame, all

1523
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 3: those guys showed up down there, And most of them

1524
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 3: showed up when Thurman's number was retired, when Bruce's numbers retired,

1525
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 3: when Gym's numbers retired. But I don't know that just

1526
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 3: for those that team, I don't think that's happened. I

1527
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 3: don't think that's happened. There would only be twenty two

1528
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 3: guys for all four teams for all four Super Bowls.

1529
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 2: But yep, and we've lost some of them too. Yeah,

1530
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: Ken Hallmark Pike no longer with.

1531
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: Us, that's right. Uh, yeah, that's right. So yeah, No,

1532
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that's happened. Yeah.

1533
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: Interesting super Beast asks, what position or positions do you

1534
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 2: think the Bills might look to upgrade from another team

1535
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 2: during final cuts? Any specific players they might be interested

1536
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 2: in that are on the bubble and have upgrade potential.

1537
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 2: I think you got it. Based I think this is

1538
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,839
Speaker 2: going to be largely based on some of the injuries.

1539
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 2: If Mitch Trubisky, if they get to Tuesday and the

1540
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 2: prognosis on Trubisky is not looking good for Week one,

1541
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 2: they may have to consider a quarterback edition who has

1542
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 2: some knowledge of the system and can execute properly. I mean, look,

1543
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: Denucci's working his tail off, so is Anthony Brown, but

1544
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 2: they haven't spent a season in this system, like say

1545
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: a Kyle Allen in Pittsburgh who may not make that

1546
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: roster with Fields and Wilson ahead of him on the

1547
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 2: depth chart, or like case Keenum who's got a couple

1548
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks ahead of him, like Davis Mills and CJ.

1549
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 2: Stroud on the depth chart. So they might look for

1550
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 2: somebody like that if there's a danger of Trubisky not

1551
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 2: being healthy enough to be ready at the start of

1552
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 2: the season. Beyond that, yeah, they could look for upgrades

1553
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: at other positions. You're always looking at what shakes loose

1554
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 2: from other rosters, and if they deem it an upgrade

1555
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 2: and they believe they can get the guy up to

1556
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 2: speed in short order, it's absolutely a consideration.

1557
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: That's right.

1558
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 3: But if like I said earlier, the bills, if one

1559
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 3: of these guys gets cut from another team and the

1560
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 3: Bills want him, he's that good. All the other teams

1561
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 3: do too, and the Bills are at the bottom of

1562
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 3: the waiver wireless right they get true, there are twenty

1563
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: five other teams. They're gonna have a shot at the

1564
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 3: guy before the Bills do. And there are a lot

1565
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 3: of teams who are gonna need a guide just like

1566
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 3: the Bills do, if at whatever position. So it's gonna be.

1567
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: Very, very.

1568
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 3: Unlikely that the Bills get a guy right out of

1569
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 3: the gate, out of the waiver wire that they've had,

1570
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 3: they've got tabs on, and say, Wow, that's.

1571
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: The guy we want.

1572
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 3: Oh and nobody else wanted him. We got him, and

1573
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 3: yeah that's no, that's probably not gonna happen.

1574
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean unless, yeah, unless we're talking about a

1575
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 2: shortage due to injury at a position or two. Probably

1576
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: unlikely because other teams aren't getting rid of players that

1577
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 2: are worth of. Darn Connor asks. Yesterday on the show,

1578
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: you both talked about the running back fullback would most

1579
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 2: likely be Cook Johnson Davis Gilliam. Would it make more

1580
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 2: sense for Gore to be on the roster than Gilliam

1581
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: having another skill position? Might serve the offense more, love

1582
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 2: the show. You guys are great. This is an example

1583
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: of redundancy at the position. Gilliam does things in the

1584
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: scope of this offense personnel, group wise and versatility wise,

1585
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 2: that Frank Gore cannot do, or any other running back

1586
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 2: on the roster for that matter. They just signed him

1587
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 2: to a contract extension last year. He is a fixture

1588
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: on this offense because of the versatility that he brings

1589
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 2: to the unit, and that is not lost on this

1590
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: coaching staff, especially for an offensive scheme that's probably gonna

1591
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: run the ball a decent amount of time, and certainly

1592
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 2: more than we've seen in the day Ball or Ken

1593
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 2: Dorsey era. So knowing that there's added value in keeping

1594
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: Gilliam on the roster, and I'll go a step further.

1595
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 2: He's a core special teams player who does more than

1596
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 2: Frank Gore Junior does. And here's the other thing too,

1597
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: Frank Gore Junior is a dog. I mean, I've liked

1598
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 2: the way he has run the football. He looks the part.

1599
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 2: The physical traits are obviously not in the elite category.

1600
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: That's why he went undrafted. He is undersized. I think

1601
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 2: he is an absolutely perfect candidate for the Bills practice squad.

1602
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: Let him develop and push his game forward. There in

1603
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 2: the event that there's a rash of injuries at running

1604
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 2: back and you need to plug somebody in, he could

1605
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 2: be a practice squad call up. I just don't think

1606
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,879
Speaker 2: for this roster he's fifty three man material.

1607
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 3: No, And you know he asks if cook Ty Johnson

1608
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: he's in a tough room too, Kelly or on the team.

1609
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 3: Wouldn't it make sense for Gore to replace Gillium? The

1610
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 3: answer is absolutely not.

1611
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: No, No, vastly different.

1612
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 3: Gillium is a completely different player. That's like keeping a

1613
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 3: tight end instead of a corner, or a tight end instead.

1614
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: Of a That's how different they are.

1615
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 3: That's how different they are. Now they line up and

1616
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 3: all that. In a crunch, Gillian could play tailback and

1617
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 3: finish the game. I don't think Gore could line up

1618
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 3: as the fullback and.

1619
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 1: Do a job and do the job. So yeah, that's no,

1620
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: that's not an option.

1621
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Dennis in

1622
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 2: North Carolina. What do you got for his Dennis here

1623
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live.

1624
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 4: Hey, I always wanted.

1625
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 8: Who do you think is a surprise non drafted free

1626
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 8: agent that can make the team.

1627
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 2: That would be That would be a tall order. Dennis Joe,

1628
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 2: I mean Joe Andresen is probably your best bet right now,

1629
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 2: and I think he's going to have a good look

1630
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: at it. That would be the guy I would pick,

1631
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 2: And I think Steve's in the same boat there beyond him.

1632
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 2: The other undrafted rookie I've liked is to Corey Coouch.

1633
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 2: He's gonna get a lot of playing time tomorrow, but

1634
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 2: I think he's in a numbers game at defensive back,

1635
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: so I think he's probably on the practice squad. But

1636
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: that'd be a pretty good practice squad kid to have there.

1637
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 2: Uh Plays has played in the slot as the nickel

1638
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: corner a lot through the course of the summer, and

1639
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 2: I've liked what they've seen from him. He's made some plays,

1640
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 2: So that would be another candidate, but I think practice

1641
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 2: squad is probably where he ends up and just looking

1642
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 2: up and down this roster quickly. Yeah, and Dreason is

1643
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 2: probably your best. I mean, Tyrrell Shavers is a former

1644
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 2: undrafted rookie, but he was on the practice squad all

1645
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 2: year last year. I think he's got a shot to

1646
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: make the fifty three man roster and he's a former

1647
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: undrafted rookie. But really beyond him, that's about it for me.

1648
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: That's about it.

1649
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 2: I mean maybe andreason's your best bet right now?

1650
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean a guy like even a guy

1651
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 3: like Gable Stevenson who's an undrafted rookie free agent, he's

1652
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 3: more of a practice squad guy, even though he does

1653
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 3: bring something to the table a year on the practice squad,

1654
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 3: it would really serve him well if he if he

1655
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 3: wants to do it. And then but like we said,

1656
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 3: and Dreesen is the guy that has really shown up

1657
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,560
Speaker 3: and he's the longest of shots. He showed up on

1658
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 3: the local day and that for those of you who

1659
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 3: don't know what the local day is. Every NFL team

1660
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 3: has a tryout on or for local athletes.

1661
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 2: And yeah, usually from the local college.

1662
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:11,799
Speaker 1: Yea, from the local colleges.

1663
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 3: And there's a list of them, and most colleges fall

1664
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 3: in the realm of two teams like between like Pitt.

1665
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 3: Pitt is also a Buffalo calluse as long as the Steelers.

1666
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 3: So and you know, there's Penn State, there's Syracuse that

1667
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 3: you be, and all these other schools that fall into

1668
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 3: the region of Buffalo they also fall into the region

1669
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 3: of another team. But some teams have that have local

1670
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 3: days that like in Miami, there's a ton of guys

1671
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 3: down there who get in and.

1672
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 2: You've got f Florida International, Miami.

1673
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: And twenty schools down there. Yeah.

1674
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 3: So but that's that's how long a shot Joe Andreeson was.

1675
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 3: He showed up on a local days, local players. Let's

1676
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 3: go have a tryout.

1677
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 2: Got to go to the tryouts during rookie Minicamp and

1678
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 2: you know, and got a contract, got a contract. Got

1679
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 2: to take a break here. Some final thought when we return,

1680
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 2: and a shout out to some of our Bills backers

1681
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 2: out in Wyoming. We'll get to that when we return.

1682
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: Here on one Bill's Live presented by Colia Health, It's

1683
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio.

1684
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 3: Back here.

1685
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 2: I want Bill's Live. Chris Brown Steve Tasker wanted to

1686
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 2: send some positive vibes out to our sister city of Buffalo,

1687
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 2: Wyoming and the surrounding vicinity. Apparently they've been affected by

1688
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 2: some bad forest fires, the House Creek fire. It's burned

1689
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 2: over two hundred thousand acres already out there. So we

1690
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 2: know we have some Bills fans out there, a lot

1691
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 2: of followers of Josh Allen in his college days out

1692
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 2: at Wyoming and you know, followed him to Buffalo kind

1693
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 2: of become Bills fans. But we've had some diehard Bills

1694
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 2: fans out there for a long time. So hope they're

1695
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: doing okay. Hope everybody's safe and that the fire gets

1696
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 2: under control sooner rather than later. So our best wishes

1697
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: out to them.

1698
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. That's yeah, that's that's tough. That's really bad out there,

1699
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 3: and I hope everybody stays safe.

1700
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 2: It's it's wildfire season out rest. We know that, so yeah,

1701
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 2: hopefully you know, the fire cruiser.

1702
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: Two hundred thousand acres is not nothing, man.

1703
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 2: No, it's a lot. I mean, that's a wow.

1704
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 1: That is big.

1705
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 2: So prayers up for the Bills fans out there. Be

1706
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 2: sure to send them your well wishes if you haven't already,

1707
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 2: and hopefully things get under control out there in short order.

1708
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 2: One last, one last question here from the mail bag

1709
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 2: was if Kyle Allen's available, do you think the Bills

1710
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 2: would be interested? I would say yes, but only if

1711
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 2: Mitchell Trubisky is not going to be ready for Week one,

1712
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 2: if his injury lasts longer than that, I would say yes.

1713
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 3: Even if it's weak two, they may just go ahead

1714
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 3: and stick with Ben or Anthony Brown.

1715
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 2: So that's it for us today. Enjoy the game on Saturday.

1716
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 2: Steve on the TV side, Me on the radio side.

1717
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:05,719
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it f you on Monday MHM.