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Speaker 1: Start of the second hour, it's Medal of Honor Monday
Speaker 1: time on this show, always has been and always will be.
Speaker 1: You can do this. I want to again encourage you.
Speaker 1: I didn't do any of these things. I don't own this.
Speaker 1: Everybody has access to every Medal of Honor citation that's
Speaker 1: ever been earned. You can do this with your family,
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Speaker 1: Read the names, read the deeds. It's not just good
Speaker 1: and healthy for the country. It's interesting. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like an action movie. And yes, of course we take
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Speaker 1: are ones you love, like this one, Jesse, I absolutely
Speaker 1: love your Medal of Honor Mondays. Try to listen to
Speaker 1: them whatever my schedule permits. I just finished a book
Speaker 1: about Chosen Reservoir and was amazed by the actions of
Speaker 1: Medal of Honor recipient hector A Caferata Junior, and would
Speaker 1: love to hear you relate his story to your audience. Well,
Speaker 1: you've actually done this one once before, and as is
Speaker 1: usually the case with these things, his citation is grossly
Speaker 1: inadequate compared to what he did, and his citation is amazing.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to start with a citation. Then I'll
Speaker 1: add some more detail to it because they actually underserved
Speaker 1: the man, and I'll explain.
Speaker 2: Why that happened. Anyway.
Speaker 1: He was born in New York City in nineteen twenty nine.
Speaker 1: United States Marine Corps. And this is what he did.
Speaker 3: Right, hey, honoring those who went above and beyond. It's
Speaker 3: Medal of Honor Monday.
Speaker 1: For conspicuous gallantry and in rapidity at the risk of
Speaker 1: his life, above and beyond the call of duty, while
Speaker 1: serving as a rifleman with Company F in action against
Speaker 1: enemy aggressor forces. When all other members of his fire
Speaker 1: team became casualties, creating a gap in the lines during
Speaker 1: the initial phase of a vicious attack launched by a
Speaker 1: fanatical enemy of regimental strength against his company's hill position,
Speaker 1: Private Caferata waged a lone battle with grenades and rifle fire.
Speaker 1: As the attack gained momentum. Momentum and the enemy threatened
Speaker 1: penetration through the gap and endangered the integrity of the
Speaker 1: entire defensive perimeter. Making a target of himself. Under devastating
Speaker 1: fire from automatic weapons, rifles, grenades, and mortars, he moved
Speaker 1: up and down the line and delivered accurate and effective
Speaker 1: fire against the on rushing force, killing fifteen wounding many
Speaker 1: more than forcing others to withdraw so that reinforcements could
Speaker 1: move up and consolidate the position.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: Fighting desperately against a renewed onslaught. Later that same morning,
Speaker 1: when a hostile grenade landed in a shallow entrenchment occupied
Speaker 1: by wounded marines, Private Caferata rushed into the gully under
Speaker 1: heavy fire, seized the deadly missile in his right hand
Speaker 1: and hurled it free of his comrades before it detonated,
Speaker 1: severing part of one finger and seriously wounding him in
Speaker 1: the right hand and arm. Courageously, ignoring the intense pain,
Speaker 1: he staunchly fought on until he was struck by a
Speaker 1: sniper's bullet and forced to submit to evacuation for medical treatment.
Speaker 1: Stout hearted and indomitable, Private Caferata, by his fortitude, great
Speaker 1: personal valor, and dauntless perseverance in the face of almost
Speaker 1: certain death, saved the lives of several of his fellow
Speaker 1: marines and contributed essentially to the success achieved by his
Speaker 1: company in maintaining the defensive position against tremendous odds. His
Speaker 1: extraordinary heroism throughout was in keeping with the highest traditions
Speaker 1: of US Naval service. Now for the rest of the story,
Speaker 1: or at least a bit of it. First of all,
Speaker 1: he was an athlete, a world class football player. I
Speaker 1: believe if memory serves me. He went semi pro football player,
Speaker 1: big Dude. In fact, his nickname was Big Heck. That
Speaker 1: was his nickname, Big Heck football player joins the Marine Corps.
Speaker 1: Is kind of a problem child in the Marine Corps.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a problem child, and those oftentimes are
Speaker 1: the guys who earn these incredible medals. So he's got
Speaker 1: a buddy with him this night. His comrade in arms
Speaker 1: is a guy Kenneth Benson. Is his name, Private Kenneth Benson.
Speaker 1: They are in their sleeping bags. Remember it is frigid cold. Now.
Speaker 1: This took place at a place called Talk Tong Pass.
Speaker 1: I don't expect that to mean anything to you. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Here's what you have to know. Our troops
Speaker 1: were cut off at Chose at Chosen reservoir, or I
Speaker 1: should say almost cut off.
Speaker 2: If we lost.
Speaker 1: Control of Talk Tong Pass, our troops would be completely
Speaker 1: cut off and we may have seen the annihilation of
Speaker 1: thirty thousand troops. That's how severe the situation was. Big
Speaker 1: He's company was essentially overlooking that pass. The Chinese troops
Speaker 1: knew they had to take his position. What's in his
Speaker 1: position about two hundred marines roughly, how many did the
Speaker 1: Chinese send different estimates depending on what you read. Twelve
Speaker 1: to fourteen hundred Chinese troops attack them because they had
Speaker 1: to have the pass. Now you know how I told
Speaker 1: you these guys were in their sleeping bags. Kenneth Benson,
Speaker 1: his buddy had a grenade essentially believe it was a
Speaker 1: grenade if memories sir as me explode, and it blinded him.
Speaker 1: He no longer had the use of his eyes at
Speaker 1: the beginning of this. But this little warrior, who should
Speaker 1: have possibly earned the metal himself, did not quit, did
Speaker 1: not give up. He spent the rest of the night
Speaker 1: refilling magazines and handing magazines to Big Heck, who spent
Speaker 1: his time shooting them, and his blind buddy is blindly
Speaker 1: handing the magazines. The Chinese are chucking so many grenades
Speaker 1: up at Big Heck during all this, he actually pulls
Speaker 1: out his little mini shovel and starts swatting them back
Speaker 1: at the Chinese like baseballs when they're chucking him at him.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man that they could make an entire
Speaker 1: movie out of this one part of Chosen Reservoir, and
Speaker 1: it would win all kinds of awards, except you know,
Speaker 1: they'd gave the whole thing up and ruin it all.
Speaker 1: But it is an insane story, oh, in one tiny
Speaker 1: little bit that maybe the biggest bit of it. You
Speaker 1: know how I told you they were in their sleeping bags,
Speaker 1: they didn't have time to put on their shoes. It's
Speaker 1: ten to twenty below zero at least, and they are
Speaker 1: standing in knee deep snow, and big Heck is taking
Speaker 1: on waves of Chinese in his bare freaking feet for
Speaker 1: hours at a time, hours at a time. So many
Speaker 1: Marines died in this company. I told you it was
Speaker 1: about two hundred. You know how many were left by morning?
Speaker 1: About eighty. They're just dying in droves, and Heck is
Speaker 1: just murdering the Chinese as fast as they can come
Speaker 1: at him. You know, they said he killed fifteen. There
Speaker 1: are estimates from multiple people.
Speaker 2: That he killed a hundred of them.
Speaker 1: They did not report that number because they thought it
Speaker 1: would not be believed. Now who knows what the exact
Speaker 1: number is, But it was not fifteen. It was a lot.
Speaker 1: He was in his bare feet by the time he
Speaker 1: got back.
Speaker 2: They didn't know.
Speaker 1: If he was going to keep either of his feet,
Speaker 1: and they did not know if he was going to live.
Speaker 1: They shipped him back to America. His feet were like black.
Speaker 1: They shipped him back to America. He had to undergo
Speaker 1: treatment for a year and a half before he was upright,
Speaker 1: kept his feet, kept his patriotism. I think he worked
Speaker 1: for the Forest Service, if I remember right. Was always
Speaker 1: a hardcore patriot and by the way, a super humble dude.
Speaker 1: When they told him me to earn the Medal of Honor,
Speaker 1: he asked him to mail it to him.
Speaker 2: Can you just put that in the mail?
Speaker 1: And they said, ah, no, no, no, you actually need
Speaker 1: to come to Washington, d c.
Speaker 2: And accept it.
Speaker 1: Lived until two thy sixteen, died in the state of Florida.
Speaker 1: Is buried, I believe. Don't quote me on this. I
Speaker 1: haven't read his stuff in a while. I think he's
Speaker 1: buried at Quantico, Virginia based Quantico, Virginia. Big heck man,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you hid a lion, a lion who saved
Speaker 1: a lot of lives and did not kill fifteen fifteen.
Speaker 1: That's an appetizer for big heck. All right, we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about what happened in corporate America. Well again,
Speaker 1: touch on communists using power when they find it. I
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Speaker 1: quickly on them using power because I wanted to bring
Speaker 1: up something. Apparently so many people are angry about it.
Speaker 1: I know it's NFL season, and I know the NFL
Speaker 1: is majorly popular, and I know you probably watch it.
Speaker 1: I got all that the NFL came out and announced
Speaker 1: somebody named Bad Bunny.
Speaker 2: No idea who that is.
Speaker 1: Apparently he's going to be the halftime show. He's some
Speaker 1: foreigner and he has a history of saying things like this.
Speaker 4: Apparently I'm never performing in the US again.
Speaker 2: I'm scared, scared that I might.
Speaker 4: Raid the venue outside my show, and honestly, I can
Speaker 4: risk the safety of my fans like that. Mainland America
Speaker 4: just doesn't feel necessary to me anymore.
Speaker 2: But I don't know who this person is.
Speaker 1: I could not name a single song, and nor do
Speaker 1: I care to find out. But let me let me
Speaker 1: just address your rage for a moment, and believe me
Speaker 1: when I tell you I am not scolding you for
Speaker 1: still watching at all. I still do things that are bad.
Speaker 1: I try not to. I still support companies I should.
Speaker 1: I try not to. I'm trying to be better. So
Speaker 1: I'm not lecturing at all. But there is something that
Speaker 1: takes place now in all ways. So I'm gonna explain
Speaker 1: what happened here. And actually I talked about this last
Speaker 1: week when it comes to politics, but it very much
Speaker 1: applies to companies, corporations. It really applies to so many things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll make it about the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1: The Jesse Kelly Show has hardcore listeners. Every show does.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna make it about me to make
Speaker 1: it easier to understand. And the radio business I have
Speaker 1: learned they call them p ones. Still no idea what
Speaker 1: that means, but that's what they call.
Speaker 2: The most hardcore people.
Speaker 1: Those are the people who don't miss a single minute
Speaker 1: of any show. If they do, they'll download the podcast.
Speaker 2: You got the p ones.
Speaker 1: If my goal, and this is not my goal, but
Speaker 1: if my goal was I want to be the biggest,
Speaker 1: richest radio star in the history of the world. And
Speaker 1: that is not my goal, which just not my thing,
Speaker 1: as you know. But if that was my goal, then
Speaker 1: here's how I might go about it. My p ones,
Speaker 1: the hardcore listeners, maybe that's you. I want to keep you.
Speaker 1: I have to keep you. But I also because my
Speaker 1: goal is to be the biggest, richest ever, I need more.
Speaker 2: I need more people in.
Speaker 1: So how much can I stray from who I am
Speaker 1: and what you like while still keeping you?
Speaker 2: That's the goal. The goal is can I moderate a
Speaker 2: little here?
Speaker 1: Maybe be less offensive there, be a little less honest
Speaker 1: about this, only a little.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to push you away.
Speaker 1: But how much can I flirt with the line of
Speaker 1: pushing you away to bring in new people so that
Speaker 1: I get to keep you and get more new people.
Speaker 1: I used it in reference to politics before Republicans Democrats
Speaker 1: they do this.
Speaker 2: How much can I.
Speaker 1: Screw my base over in the general election, but not
Speaker 1: screw them over so much they leave.
Speaker 2: I need to screw them over a little.
Speaker 1: Bring in some of the more squishes while not completely
Speaker 1: betraying my base. Okay, this applies to more than just me.
Speaker 1: It applies to more than politics. The NFL professional football,
Speaker 1: the NFL. Football in America is unreasonably popular. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It affects entire industries. The grocery industry thrives when it's
Speaker 1: NFL season. Did you know that we're obsessed with football?
Speaker 1: And again, I am not judging, but the NFL discovered
Speaker 1: something during the Saint George Floyd insanity, the Black Lives
Speaker 1: Matter insanity in this country. What they discovered was they
Speaker 1: can do anything, and they're hardcore fans will never leave. Ever,
Speaker 1: they will never leave. And I realize some maybe you
Speaker 1: did if there are going to be a few, but
Speaker 1: they will never have a significant portion of their fan
Speaker 1: base stop watching football. They can do Black Lives Matter rallies.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees can put the name of a rapist on
Speaker 1: his helmet. They can do the most despicable things in
Speaker 1: a world, in the world, and even if you last
Speaker 1: a week or two, you'll be back watching, buying jerseys,
Speaker 1: go into the stadium cheering for your team. Well, when
Speaker 1: that happens, they learn, well, hey, I can do whatever
Speaker 1: I want. Why would you go hire some commie foreigner
Speaker 1: to do the halftime show of the biggest TV show
Speaker 1: in the world every year? Why well, you're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: The NFL is trying to go international, as all corporations are.
Speaker 1: They're trying to bring in more of a fan base,
Speaker 1: a worldwide and international fan base. American citizens have proven
Speaker 1: they will never leave it. They will never leave it,
Speaker 1: they will never forsake it. The NFL now knows after
Speaker 1: George Floyd, they are invincible. Their p ones will endure
Speaker 1: unending things and they'll still keep watching. They were taught
Speaker 1: a lesson. And again I'm not judging.
Speaker 2: I am not. I make mistakes too. I do bad
Speaker 2: things too.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even call the mistakes. I do things I
Speaker 1: shouldn't do too. I'm not telling you to turn off
Speaker 1: the NFL either. I'm not. You live your life the
Speaker 1: way you want go, enjoy your football. But this is
Speaker 1: the result of that. The NFL learned they are invincible, untouchable.
Speaker 1: They learn their lesson well, and now that's how they operate.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm done with that. Let's go talk to J.
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Speaker 1: Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. But enough of that
Speaker 1: right now, because I want to get right to doctor
Speaker 1: Michael Waller. He is the director of Strategy for the
Speaker 1: Center for Security Policy, and for our purposes tonight, he
Speaker 1: is going to explain well quite a few things about insurgency.
Speaker 1: But I want to talk about this Armed Queers of
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City breakdown, and I want to understand how
Speaker 1: these organizations work, how these Antifa tear cells work. And
Speaker 1: so doctor Waller, the floor is yours. Explain this insurgency
Speaker 1: to us as best you can.
Speaker 5: An insurgency is an organization or a movement of that
Speaker 5: works above ground legally and has an underground movement for
Speaker 5: the purposes of committing crimes and violence and secret conspiracies.
Speaker 5: So we're at that stage now in parts of our
Speaker 5: country where authorities have let things get so far out
Speaker 5: of control that you have a full blown insurgency, just
Speaker 5: like the kind that they had in say El Salvador
Speaker 5: forty years ago. It's a communist led It has a
Speaker 5: lot of fellow travelers and useful idiots who don't know
Speaker 5: what they're doing. And it has an above ground part
Speaker 5: that you can see and an underground part that you
Speaker 5: can't see.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's pause for a moment on where we are today.
Speaker 1: If you wouldn't mind, I would like you to expand
Speaker 1: quite a bit on what the heck happened in El
Speaker 1: Salvador forty years ago, because most of us, most definitely
Speaker 1: myself included, are stupid and don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it was a huge thing back then. They
Speaker 5: were trying to replicate a communist revolution like in South Vietnam,
Speaker 5: which had just collapsed to the communists just a few
Speaker 5: years earlier. So in America, the movement that had supported
Speaker 5: our communist enemy fighting us in South Vietnam, they were
Speaker 5: looking for other causes. So they had the Sandinista revolution
Speaker 5: in Nicaragua, and then right after that a communist revolutionary
Speaker 5: movement in El Salvador and the Sanctuary movement which came
Speaker 5: out of that and brought us sanctuary cities here. So
Speaker 5: the Salvador and insurgency, which was trained by the Cubans
Speaker 5: and the East Germans and the Soviets developed four El Salvador.
Speaker 5: But then they had spin offs to come up to
Speaker 5: our country as as what as refugees as migrants, and
Speaker 5: they were given sanctuary through sanctuary cities and a sanctuary
Speaker 5: movement so that the federal authorities could not commit and
Speaker 5: deport them back to Los Albergo. See the families and
Speaker 5: civilian support structure of the communist guerrillas coming up to
Speaker 5: Los Angeles and Boston and New York and elsewhere to
Speaker 5: live permanently and then set up their own networks here.
Speaker 1: Okay, again we're speaking with doctor Michael Waller, Center for
Speaker 1: Security Policy. Okay, so where we are now? Break it
Speaker 1: down for us. Where are we with these terror cells?
Speaker 1: May how did they come to be? What kind of
Speaker 1: makeup is there? How dangerous is this?
Speaker 2: Please explain?
Speaker 5: Well, there's an ancestry to all of this, so it's
Speaker 5: not something new, So therefore it's not something hard for
Speaker 5: our authorities to learn about. If only they had people
Speaker 5: in the system who who were looking at underground communists
Speaker 5: and anarchist groups. But the FBI was looking at you
Speaker 5: and me, so they weren't paying attention. And really there's
Speaker 5: almost no one left inside the bureau who understands this stuff.
Speaker 5: So be that as it may, these groups have been
Speaker 5: allowed literally free reign for decades. They got their inspiration
Speaker 5: and their training, and their even the recruitment of their
Speaker 5: cadres through a lot of the elderly now elderly nineteen
Speaker 5: sixties radicals and nineteen seventies radicals tied in with the
Speaker 5: Weather Underground. Say, you know the same folks who actually
Speaker 5: had coached Barack Obama, you know Bill Ayers and Bernadine
Speaker 5: dor to the Weather Underground. What did they do? They
Speaker 5: got acceptable positions marching through the institutions as university professors
Speaker 5: like Angela Davis and so many others at that time.
Speaker 5: Then they recruited students, radicalize them. Now we're talking to
Speaker 5: even on the third generation now of Rabi. So a
Speaker 5: lot of these people get so alienated, like everything's fascist,
Speaker 5: everything's not to everything's racist. Therefore we have to destroy them.
Speaker 5: Imagine if we had a chance to kill Hitler before
Speaker 5: he created the Third Reich, what a better world this
Speaker 5: would be. So a lot of these people really believe
Speaker 5: that they're fighting evil. They've been radicalized. The people in
Speaker 5: control understand something quite different. They have an ideological cause,
Speaker 5: which is to overthrow our constitution and to turn our
Speaker 5: country into a communist regime. So they're using a lot
Speaker 5: of people who don't know anything about history, a lot
Speaker 5: of very well meaning people, and a lot of just
Speaker 5: twisted six people who are just messed up in their
Speaker 5: larger movement to destroy our society from within.
Speaker 1: Doctor Waller, can you explain that we'll get back to
Speaker 1: the actual cadres and the makeup of these people for
Speaker 1: a moment. Can you explain for a moment what the violence?
Speaker 1: How does it help them? Not just assassinations. You're blocking
Speaker 1: ice facilities, You look like a freak. Surely this is
Speaker 1: going to turn people against your movement. But they've been
Speaker 1: using these tactics forever, so there has to be a point.
Speaker 1: What is the point?
Speaker 5: There's a really important point to the violence, because violence
Speaker 5: creates real solidarity. It's kind of like if you're in
Speaker 5: military combat. You've got buddies who you're going through hell
Speaker 5: with and you're going to do anything for one another,
Speaker 5: even if you don't know them from before, and you're
Speaker 5: always going to have a special identity with them, and
Speaker 5: for the rest of your life, you're going to identify
Speaker 5: with them first, So you have a certain kind of language,
Speaker 5: certain kind of gestures where everybody kind of understands everybody
Speaker 5: else at the expense of those who are not in
Speaker 5: the know. So it creates the system of what the
Speaker 5: communists called cadres. It's called cadre building, and these are
Speaker 5: the foot soldiers of any revolutionary movement in the case
Speaker 5: we're talking about here inside the country. So what the
Speaker 5: violence does yere? First, you know, if you get into
Speaker 5: any crowd mentality, or like you get into a good
Speaker 5: a good concert, right, there are a lot of people
Speaker 5: and it gets rowdy and you end up doing stuff
Speaker 5: you ordinarily wouldn't do as an individual because it's wrong
Speaker 5: and it's stupid, and it's whatever. It's constructive, but it
Speaker 5: can be kind of fun when you're in it with
Speaker 5: everybody else and you're part of it. If you're a
Speaker 5: doup or you're just it's sort of dragged into it,
Speaker 5: or even if you came in planning to do it,
Speaker 5: it's cool, it's exciting. Now you've had an experience, so
Speaker 5: the next time you go into this you're you're enthused
Speaker 5: about it, and then people see uh huh. Who responded
Speaker 5: best to this, who's most aggressive about this, who will
Speaker 5: do as they're told without question, Who are some of
Speaker 5: the natural leaders in this, And that's how they they
Speaker 5: locate and identify and then end up recruiting hardcore radicals
Speaker 5: into their movement. So if you look at the way
Speaker 5: Antifa has been living up in Portland and Seattle and
Speaker 5: so forth, living in tense, living in squalor living in
Speaker 5: sort of commune where everybody shares everything and shares everybody's
Speaker 5: experiences and lives a very hard life and very harsh
Speaker 5: weather conditions and food conditions and health conditions. There's a
Speaker 5: solidarity that breeds among them, just like Miles guerrillas did
Speaker 5: in the mountains, and it's going to be an unbreakable solidarity.
Speaker 5: So that's the purpose of the violence. The purpose of
Speaker 5: the violence is also to give them a sense of empowerment.
Speaker 5: If they can hold back the cops, if they can
Speaker 5: get the governor of a state, not necessarily Oregon, but
Speaker 5: a governor of a state or the president of the
Speaker 5: United States to denounce them and to denounce their movement,
Speaker 5: that makes it more important. That jazzes them up, and
Speaker 5: then they get into a clash with cops National Guard, whatever.
Speaker 5: It's really pretty cool if you're look at it from
Speaker 5: their perspective, and now they think we are being repressed.
Speaker 5: We have to fight this repression. This proves that they're
Speaker 5: fascists who have come out after us because they're trying
Speaker 5: to stop us from freeing the people of racism and oppression.
Speaker 1: Doctor Weller, last question for you here, but please take
Speaker 1: as much time as you need. How do we stop it?
Speaker 1: Obviously the cancer has metastasized badly. These cells are everywhere.
Speaker 1: What is the method to break it up? I understand
Speaker 1: we may not have the expertise at the FBI right now,
Speaker 1: but what should we be doing if we did well?
Speaker 5: First, the FBI and federal law enforcement needs to build
Speaker 5: bad expertise, and there are plenty of people on the
Speaker 5: outside who have it. Guys like Andy no On X,
Speaker 5: you know, he's been through all of this. There are
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of people like that who already know
Speaker 5: this and how it works, and they're going to have
Speaker 5: different opinions based on their different perspectives. So all of
Speaker 5: these different folks are going to be very useful. Then
Speaker 5: you have people on our side who've approached it from
Speaker 5: the scholarly perspective, or they've been doing this like as
Speaker 5: I had since the nineteen eighties when I was in
Speaker 5: college we were collecting information on the left. We still
Speaker 5: have all of that stuff people older had been collecting
Speaker 5: since Vietnam. They're still around. They have a whole lot
Speaker 5: of historic knowledge, even who was who and who was
Speaker 5: doing what. In the pre digital age. You can collect
Speaker 5: all that material, digitize it, build big databases of it
Speaker 5: because it's all open source, and you can provide it
Speaker 5: to journalists, to guys like you, to law enforcement, to
Speaker 5: anybody who needs it, and help people become experts on it,
Speaker 5: and especially help state and local law enforcement because they're
Speaker 5: the people who need it most.
Speaker 1: He is, Doctor J. Michael Waller, absolutely wonderful. Please come
Speaker 1: back and join us soon. Thank you for that bit
Speaker 1: of education there. Anytime, this goes to what we've discussed before,
Speaker 1: a bit of we may not have the horses left
Speaker 1: because they captured the institutions, and that was part of
Speaker 1: the reason they captured them, of course, so they could
Speaker 1: reward their friends and punish their enemies.
Speaker 5: You and me.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we'll come back. Well, do some more emails next
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Speaker 1: my problem with Trump from January sixth.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's talking about on Friday.
Speaker 1: We did a long January sixth talk with the indictment
Speaker 1: of Comy and the FBI whatnot. He says, how could
Speaker 1: he not have known Democrats were going to arrange a
Speaker 1: break in and make it look like Republicans did it.
Speaker 1: I knew that was going to happen. Everyone should have known, says,
Speaker 1: I can use his name. His name is Scott. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's very fair to criticize Trump whenever you disagree with Trump.
Speaker 2: He's not your god. Okay, that's one.
Speaker 1: But if I may, Trump has and I used to
Speaker 1: be very hard on him because he wouldn't do this.
Speaker 1: Trump has acknowledged, and he did it in my physical presence.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has acknowledged that he did not know how
Speaker 1: DC operated, and he did not understand it when he
Speaker 1: got there for his first four years. This sounds like
Speaker 1: an excuse. Just stay with me for a second, though.
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something, and you're not going
Speaker 1: to believe it, especially if you're a huge Trump fan,
Speaker 1: if you look up to him a great deal.
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 1: The two thousand and sixteen version of Donald Trump who
Speaker 1: walked into the White House. You had a better understanding
Speaker 1: of politics, DC, Communists and the danger than he did.
Speaker 1: Do you know that you knew more than he did?
Speaker 1: And he would probably tell you that remember this for
Speaker 1: all the good he's done and all the good he's doing.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was not a political person. He was a
Speaker 1: New York businessman, a New York businessman who cut deals
Speaker 1: with Democrats, donated the Democrats.
Speaker 2: Cut deals with Republicans. He's just a business guy. It's
Speaker 2: on TV.
Speaker 1: He's a real estate guy. He got to Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: And he got put through a four year crucible learning
Speaker 1: just how evil these people are. This is what I
Speaker 1: want to caution you against, because I tend to do
Speaker 1: this too. We tend to think titles automatically come with
Speaker 1: the knowledge that title should hold. Don't we think that
Speaker 1: it's perfectly natural? Your doctor he knows a lot more
Speaker 1: about medicine than you do. Right, Really did your doctor
Speaker 1: tell your kid to take the COVID vat Your doctor knows.
Speaker 2: Less than you do? Possibly, I don't mean your doctor specifically, well,
Speaker 2: that general.
Speaker 1: He knows about logistics, he knows about tactic. Really, are
Speaker 1: you sure do you think in the system we have now,
Speaker 1: you get promoted only through merit, You get promoted because
Speaker 1: you know, or you get promoted because of who you know.
Speaker 1: And the exact same thing applies to our politicians. Surely,
Speaker 1: my House representative, my senator. He knows how government works.
Speaker 2: What's real. Really, do you think that it applies to
Speaker 2: the president too? Surely?
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's president of the United States of America. He
Speaker 1: understands how evil the Federal Bureau of Investigation is. He
Speaker 1: understands everything about their history. He understands things like Waco
Speaker 1: and Ruby Ridge and.
Speaker 2: All these other things. He knows all this right, No,
Speaker 2: he didn't.
Speaker 1: He was lost as a river duck for his first
Speaker 1: four years. Conceptually he had the right ideas about a
Speaker 1: lot of things. He knew deportations were good for securities.
Speaker 1: Conceptually he was right. He's not a moron by any
Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination, quite intelligent. But you knew more
Speaker 1: than twenty sixteen Donald Trump did about the evil nature
Speaker 1: of the communists. Now, in the year of our Lord
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, Trump is quite aware.
Speaker 2: He knows.
Speaker 1: Now, once you've been shot, arrested, impeached twice. Now he
Speaker 1: gets it once you've had your own FBI director. At
Speaker 1: least the first one try to take you down and
Speaker 1: the second one screw you over.
Speaker 2: You're pretty aware of it.
Speaker 1: Do you agree with the strategy of focusing on the
Speaker 1: oath keepers and focusing on prosecuting that group.
Speaker 6: Of individuals first.
Speaker 1: In order for it to be a deterrent.
Speaker 6: You've got to throw the net wide, get all of them,
Speaker 6: both the organized groups, proud Boys, oathkeepers, but find everybody
Speaker 6: who went into that building. Find them all again. Not
Speaker 6: because of my concern that those people who committed a
Speaker 6: misdemeanor are they're going to go into the community and reoffend.
Speaker 6: The message has to be sent of zero tolerance. We
Speaker 6: will find everyone and punish everyone who went in there
Speaker 6: so that no one does it again. We will hunt
Speaker 6: you to the end of the earth, even for a misdemeanor,
Speaker 6: and make you pay for that. To send that message.
Speaker 1: Do you think Donald Trump knew that January sixth was
Speaker 1: the Reichstag fire the Communists used to hunt down their
Speaker 1: political opponents and treat them like terrorists. Do you think
Speaker 1: he knew that on January sixth? Of course he didn't.
Speaker 1: Of course he didn't he was calling for Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 1: to bring in the National Guard. Of course she didn't.
Speaker 1: Wonder why she didn't. I wonder why. It almost seemed
Speaker 1: like she wanted it to happen. Anyway, I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying, and that that was not an effort to
Speaker 1: make excuses. There are some things that can't be excused.
Speaker 1: Even naivete doesn't excuse it. But like the COVID response
Speaker 1: of fifteen days to slow the spread, he has to
Speaker 1: own that he always will. That sucked, but it is
Speaker 1: what it is, all right. I'm finally going to get
Speaker 1: to them using their power and things changing. Things are
Speaker 1: slowly changing, and we should take heart and that. Before
Speaker 1: we get to that, and emails and so much more,
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you.
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Speaker 2: We'll be back.