1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show. It is a Jesse 2 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Kelly Show on a wonderful Monday, another hour of the 3 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. We have an amazing hour for you. 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: It is just jam packed full of goodness. Of course, 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Medal of Honor Monday's coming up. A minute from now. 6 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: We have j Michael Waller joining us. A half hour 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: from now, they're starting to do breakdowns of these Antifa 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: terrorist groups. 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: And he was. 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: Involved in things like communist revolutions in El Salvador. He's 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: just a wealth of knowledge and he's about to dump 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: that knowledge on us. About a half hour from now, 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about these people using power, the religion 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: of conquest, Alvin Bragg let some New York woman go free? 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: Why did that happen? All that more coming up on 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. But this moment is 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: dedicated to heroes, as it always is on Mondays Mondays. 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: Start of the second hour, it's Medal of Honor Monday 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: time on this show, always has been and always will be. 20 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: You can do this. I want to again encourage you. 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: I didn't do any of these things. I don't own this. 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Everybody has access to every Medal of Honor citation that's 23 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: ever been earned. You can do this with your family, 24 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: with your class, with your team. 25 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: You can do it at work. 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Read the names, read the deeds. It's not just good 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: and healthy for the country. It's interesting. It's like it's 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: like an action movie. And yes, of course we take 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: email recommendations. Love hey, death threats and recommendations. If there 30 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: are ones you love, like this one, Jesse, I absolutely 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: love your Medal of Honor Mondays. Try to listen to 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: them whatever my schedule permits. I just finished a book 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: about Chosen Reservoir and was amazed by the actions of 34 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: Medal of Honor recipient hector A Caferata Junior, and would 35 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: love to hear you relate his story to your audience. Well, 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: you've actually done this one once before, and as is 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: usually the case with these things, his citation is grossly 38 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: inadequate compared to what he did, and his citation is amazing. 39 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: So I'm going to start with a citation. Then I'll 40 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: add some more detail to it because they actually underserved 41 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: the man, and I'll explain. 42 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: Why that happened. Anyway. 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: He was born in New York City in nineteen twenty nine. 44 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: United States Marine Corps. And this is what he did. 45 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: Right, hey, honoring those who went above and beyond. It's 46 00:02:48,960 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: Medal of Honor Monday. 47 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: For conspicuous gallantry and in rapidity at the risk of 48 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: his life, above and beyond the call of duty, while 49 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: serving as a rifleman with Company F in action against 50 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: enemy aggressor forces. When all other members of his fire 51 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: team became casualties, creating a gap in the lines during 52 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: the initial phase of a vicious attack launched by a 53 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: fanatical enemy of regimental strength against his company's hill position, 54 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: Private Caferata waged a lone battle with grenades and rifle fire. 55 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: As the attack gained momentum. Momentum and the enemy threatened 56 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: penetration through the gap and endangered the integrity of the 57 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: entire defensive perimeter. Making a target of himself. Under devastating 58 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: fire from automatic weapons, rifles, grenades, and mortars, he moved 59 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: up and down the line and delivered accurate and effective 60 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: fire against the on rushing force, killing fifteen wounding many 61 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 1: more than forcing others to withdraw so that reinforcements could 62 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: move up and consolidate the position. 63 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: Again. 64 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: Fighting desperately against a renewed onslaught. Later that same morning, 65 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: when a hostile grenade landed in a shallow entrenchment occupied 66 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: by wounded marines, Private Caferata rushed into the gully under 67 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: heavy fire, seized the deadly missile in his right hand 68 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: and hurled it free of his comrades before it detonated, 69 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: severing part of one finger and seriously wounding him in 70 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: the right hand and arm. Courageously, ignoring the intense pain, 71 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: he staunchly fought on until he was struck by a 72 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: sniper's bullet and forced to submit to evacuation for medical treatment. 73 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: Stout hearted and indomitable, Private Caferata, by his fortitude, great 74 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: personal valor, and dauntless perseverance in the face of almost 75 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: certain death, saved the lives of several of his fellow 76 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: marines and contributed essentially to the success achieved by his 77 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: company in maintaining the defensive position against tremendous odds. His 78 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: extraordinary heroism throughout was in keeping with the highest traditions 79 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: of US Naval service. Now for the rest of the story, 80 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: or at least a bit of it. First of all, 81 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: he was an athlete, a world class football player. I 82 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 1: believe if memory serves me. He went semi pro football player, 83 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: big Dude. In fact, his nickname was Big Heck. That 84 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: was his nickname, Big Heck football player joins the Marine Corps. 85 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: Is kind of a problem child in the Marine Corps. 86 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of a problem child, and those oftentimes are 87 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: the guys who earn these incredible medals. So he's got 88 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 1: a buddy with him this night. His comrade in arms 89 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: is a guy Kenneth Benson. Is his name, Private Kenneth Benson. 90 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: They are in their sleeping bags. Remember it is frigid cold. Now. 91 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: This took place at a place called Talk Tong Pass. 92 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: I don't expect that to mean anything to you. It 93 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Here's what you have to know. Our troops 94 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: were cut off at Chose at Chosen reservoir, or I 95 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: should say almost cut off. 96 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: If we lost. 97 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: Control of Talk Tong Pass, our troops would be completely 98 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: cut off and we may have seen the annihilation of 99 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: thirty thousand troops. That's how severe the situation was. Big 100 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: He's company was essentially overlooking that pass. The Chinese troops 101 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: knew they had to take his position. What's in his 102 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: position about two hundred marines roughly, how many did the 103 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: Chinese send different estimates depending on what you read. Twelve 104 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: to fourteen hundred Chinese troops attack them because they had 105 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: to have the pass. Now you know how I told 106 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: you these guys were in their sleeping bags. Kenneth Benson, 107 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: his buddy had a grenade essentially believe it was a 108 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: grenade if memories sir as me explode, and it blinded him. 109 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: He no longer had the use of his eyes at 110 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: the beginning of this. But this little warrior, who should 111 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: have possibly earned the metal himself, did not quit, did 112 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: not give up. He spent the rest of the night 113 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: refilling magazines and handing magazines to Big Heck, who spent 114 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: his time shooting them, and his blind buddy is blindly 115 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: handing the magazines. The Chinese are chucking so many grenades 116 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: up at Big Heck during all this, he actually pulls 117 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: out his little mini shovel and starts swatting them back 118 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: at the Chinese like baseballs when they're chucking him at him. 119 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man that they could make an entire 120 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: movie out of this one part of Chosen Reservoir, and 121 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: it would win all kinds of awards, except you know, 122 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: they'd gave the whole thing up and ruin it all. 123 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: But it is an insane story, oh, in one tiny 124 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: little bit that maybe the biggest bit of it. You 125 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: know how I told you they were in their sleeping bags, 126 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: they didn't have time to put on their shoes. It's 127 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: ten to twenty below zero at least, and they are 128 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: standing in knee deep snow, and big Heck is taking 129 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: on waves of Chinese in his bare freaking feet for 130 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: hours at a time, hours at a time. So many 131 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: Marines died in this company. I told you it was 132 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: about two hundred. You know how many were left by morning? 133 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: About eighty. They're just dying in droves, and Heck is 134 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: just murdering the Chinese as fast as they can come 135 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: at him. You know, they said he killed fifteen. There 136 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: are estimates from multiple people. 137 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: That he killed a hundred of them. 138 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: They did not report that number because they thought it 139 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: would not be believed. Now who knows what the exact 140 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: number is, But it was not fifteen. It was a lot. 141 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: He was in his bare feet by the time he 142 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: got back. 143 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: They didn't know. 144 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: If he was going to keep either of his feet, 145 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: and they did not know if he was going to live. 146 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: They shipped him back to America. His feet were like black. 147 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: They shipped him back to America. He had to undergo 148 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: treatment for a year and a half before he was upright, 149 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: kept his feet, kept his patriotism. I think he worked 150 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: for the Forest Service, if I remember right. Was always 151 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: a hardcore patriot and by the way, a super humble dude. 152 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: When they told him me to earn the Medal of Honor, 153 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: he asked him to mail it to him. 154 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: Can you just put that in the mail? 155 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: And they said, ah, no, no, no, you actually need 156 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: to come to Washington, d c. 157 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: And accept it. 158 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: Lived until two thy sixteen, died in the state of Florida. 159 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: Is buried, I believe. Don't quote me on this. I 160 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: haven't read his stuff in a while. I think he's 161 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: buried at Quantico, Virginia based Quantico, Virginia. Big heck man, 162 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm telling you hid a lion, a lion who saved 163 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: a lot of lives and did not kill fifteen fifteen. 164 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: That's an appetizer for big heck. All right, we're going 165 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: to talk about what happened in corporate America. Well again, 166 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: touch on communists using power when they find it. I 167 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: want to touch on your dog. For that's I don't 168 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: want to. I wish I hadn't put that that way. 169 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: I want your dog to be healthier. I mean I 170 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: would pet your dog, probably unless he stinks. If you 171 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: want your dog to have a better coat and better 172 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: breast so he's less smelly. Your dog needs nutrition the 173 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: same way you need nutrition. Your dog has to have it. 174 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: We we bury our dogs too early, and it hurts. 175 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: I've buried so many, usually digging it myself, me and 176 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: my dad. Let Rough Greens keep your dog alive longer. 177 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: Roughgreens is America's number one dog supplement for a reason. 178 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: Live vitamins minerals your dog. You will see differences in 179 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: their energy. They're just better dogs, and they don't keel 180 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: over so early. 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It The Jesse Kelly Show. 187 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wild, amazing Monday, 188 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: only ten minutes away from Jmichael Waller. 189 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm so excited about that. 190 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: To learn more about these Antifa Terra Networks member, you 191 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 192 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 2: If you missed any part of the show, you. 193 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Can downloaded iHeart Spotify iTunes. I'm actually gonna pause really 194 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: quickly on them using power because I wanted to bring 195 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: up something. Apparently so many people are angry about it. 196 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: I know it's NFL season, and I know the NFL 197 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: is majorly popular, and I know you probably watch it. 198 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: I got all that the NFL came out and announced 199 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: somebody named Bad Bunny. 200 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: No idea who that is. 201 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: Apparently he's going to be the halftime show. He's some 202 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: foreigner and he has a history of saying things like this. 203 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 4: Apparently I'm never performing in the US again. 204 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: I'm scared, scared that I might. 205 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 4: Raid the venue outside my show, and honestly, I can 206 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: risk the safety of my fans like that. Mainland America 207 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: just doesn't feel necessary to me anymore. 208 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: But I don't know who this person is. 209 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: I could not name a single song, and nor do 210 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: I care to find out. But let me let me 211 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: just address your rage for a moment, and believe me 212 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: when I tell you I am not scolding you for 213 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: still watching at all. I still do things that are bad. 214 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: I try not to. I still support companies I should. 215 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: I try not to. I'm trying to be better. So 216 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm not lecturing at all. But there is something that 217 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: takes place now in all ways. So I'm gonna explain 218 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: what happened here. And actually I talked about this last 219 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: week when it comes to politics, but it very much 220 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: applies to companies, corporations. It really applies to so many things. Yeah, 221 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll make it about the Jesse Kelly Show. 222 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: The Jesse Kelly Show has hardcore listeners. Every show does. 223 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna make it about me to make 224 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: it easier to understand. And the radio business I have 225 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: learned they call them p ones. Still no idea what 226 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: that means, but that's what they call. 227 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: The most hardcore people. 228 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: Those are the people who don't miss a single minute 229 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: of any show. If they do, they'll download the podcast. 230 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: You got the p ones. 231 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: If my goal, and this is not my goal, but 232 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: if my goal was I want to be the biggest, 233 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: richest radio star in the history of the world. And 234 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: that is not my goal, which just not my thing, 235 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: as you know. But if that was my goal, then 236 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: here's how I might go about it. My p ones, 237 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: the hardcore listeners, maybe that's you. I want to keep you. 238 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: I have to keep you. But I also because my 239 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: goal is to be the biggest, richest ever, I need more. 240 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: I need more people in. 241 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: So how much can I stray from who I am 242 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: and what you like while still keeping you? 243 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: That's the goal. The goal is can I moderate a 244 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: little here? 245 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: Maybe be less offensive there, be a little less honest 246 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: about this, only a little. 247 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to push you away. 248 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: But how much can I flirt with the line of 249 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: pushing you away to bring in new people so that 250 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: I get to keep you and get more new people. 251 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: I used it in reference to politics before Republicans Democrats 252 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: they do this. 253 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: How much can I. 254 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: Screw my base over in the general election, but not 255 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: screw them over so much they leave. 256 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: I need to screw them over a little. 257 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: Bring in some of the more squishes while not completely 258 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: betraying my base. Okay, this applies to more than just me. 259 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: It applies to more than politics. The NFL professional football, 260 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. Football in America is unreasonably popular. It's ridiculous. 261 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: It affects entire industries. The grocery industry thrives when it's 262 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: NFL season. Did you know that we're obsessed with football? 263 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: And again, I am not judging, but the NFL discovered 264 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: something during the Saint George Floyd insanity, the Black Lives 265 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: Matter insanity in this country. What they discovered was they 266 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: can do anything, and they're hardcore fans will never leave. Ever, 267 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: they will never leave. And I realize some maybe you 268 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: did if there are going to be a few, but 269 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: they will never have a significant portion of their fan 270 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: base stop watching football. They can do Black Lives Matter rallies. 271 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: Drew Brees can put the name of a rapist on 272 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: his helmet. They can do the most despicable things in 273 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: a world, in the world, and even if you last 274 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: a week or two, you'll be back watching, buying jerseys, 275 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: go into the stadium cheering for your team. Well, when 276 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: that happens, they learn, well, hey, I can do whatever 277 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: I want. Why would you go hire some commie foreigner 278 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: to do the halftime show of the biggest TV show 279 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: in the world every year? Why well, you're not going anywhere. 280 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: The NFL is trying to go international, as all corporations are. 281 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: They're trying to bring in more of a fan base, 282 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: a worldwide and international fan base. American citizens have proven 283 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: they will never leave it. They will never leave it, 284 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: they will never forsake it. The NFL now knows after 285 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: George Floyd, they are invincible. Their p ones will endure 286 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: unending things and they'll still keep watching. They were taught 287 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: a lesson. And again I'm not judging. 288 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: I am not. I make mistakes too. I do bad 289 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: things too. 290 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: I shouldn't even call the mistakes. I do things I 291 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't do too. I'm not telling you to turn off 292 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: the NFL either. I'm not. You live your life the 293 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: way you want go, enjoy your football. But this is 294 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: the result of that. The NFL learned they are invincible, untouchable. 295 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: They learn their lesson well, and now that's how they operate. 296 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: All right, I'm done with that. Let's go talk to J. 297 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: Michael Waller. Before we talk to J. Michael Waller, know 298 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: that there is an entire criminal world you can't see 299 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: and I can't see. It's this terrible online criminal world 300 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: where they're always looking to steal your data so they 301 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: can drain your bank account, destroy your credit, take out loans, 302 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: home loans in your name, basically destroy your financial life. 303 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: It sickens me that LifeLock has to exist, it really does. 304 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: I wish it was unnecessary, but we have to have 305 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: a firewall against this. Who will let us know when 306 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: they've stolen our data? 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But enough of that 326 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: right now, because I want to get right to doctor 327 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: Michael Waller. He is the director of Strategy for the 328 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: Center for Security Policy, and for our purposes tonight, he 329 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: is going to explain well quite a few things about insurgency. 330 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: But I want to talk about this Armed Queers of 331 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: Salt Lake City breakdown, and I want to understand how 332 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: these organizations work, how these Antifa tear cells work. And 333 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: so doctor Waller, the floor is yours. Explain this insurgency 334 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: to us as best you can. 335 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 5: An insurgency is an organization or a movement of that 336 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 5: works above ground legally and has an underground movement for 337 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 5: the purposes of committing crimes and violence and secret conspiracies. 338 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 5: So we're at that stage now in parts of our 339 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 5: country where authorities have let things get so far out 340 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 5: of control that you have a full blown insurgency, just 341 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 5: like the kind that they had in say El Salvador 342 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 5: forty years ago. It's a communist led It has a 343 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 5: lot of fellow travelers and useful idiots who don't know 344 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 5: what they're doing. And it has an above ground part 345 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 5: that you can see and an underground part that you 346 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 5: can't see. 347 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: Okay, let's pause for a moment on where we are today. 348 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: If you wouldn't mind, I would like you to expand 349 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: quite a bit on what the heck happened in El 350 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: Salvador forty years ago, because most of us, most definitely 351 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: myself included, are stupid and don't know what you're talking about. 352 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it was a huge thing back then. They 353 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 5: were trying to replicate a communist revolution like in South Vietnam, 354 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 5: which had just collapsed to the communists just a few 355 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 5: years earlier. So in America, the movement that had supported 356 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 5: our communist enemy fighting us in South Vietnam, they were 357 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: looking for other causes. So they had the Sandinista revolution 358 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 5: in Nicaragua, and then right after that a communist revolutionary 359 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 5: movement in El Salvador and the Sanctuary movement which came 360 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 5: out of that and brought us sanctuary cities here. So 361 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 5: the Salvador and insurgency, which was trained by the Cubans 362 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 5: and the East Germans and the Soviets developed four El Salvador. 363 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 5: But then they had spin offs to come up to 364 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 5: our country as as what as refugees as migrants, and 365 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 5: they were given sanctuary through sanctuary cities and a sanctuary 366 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 5: movement so that the federal authorities could not commit and 367 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 5: deport them back to Los Albergo. See the families and 368 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 5: civilian support structure of the communist guerrillas coming up to 369 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 5: Los Angeles and Boston and New York and elsewhere to 370 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 5: live permanently and then set up their own networks here. 371 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: Okay, again we're speaking with doctor Michael Waller, Center for 372 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: Security Policy. Okay, so where we are now? Break it 373 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: down for us. Where are we with these terror cells? 374 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: May how did they come to be? What kind of 375 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: makeup is there? How dangerous is this? 376 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 2: Please explain? 377 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 5: Well, there's an ancestry to all of this, so it's 378 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 5: not something new, So therefore it's not something hard for 379 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 5: our authorities to learn about. If only they had people 380 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 5: in the system who who were looking at underground communists 381 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 5: and anarchist groups. But the FBI was looking at you 382 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 5: and me, so they weren't paying attention. And really there's 383 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 5: almost no one left inside the bureau who understands this stuff. 384 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 5: So be that as it may, these groups have been 385 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 5: allowed literally free reign for decades. They got their inspiration 386 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 5: and their training, and their even the recruitment of their 387 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 5: cadres through a lot of the elderly now elderly nineteen 388 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 5: sixties radicals and nineteen seventies radicals tied in with the 389 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 5: Weather Underground. Say, you know the same folks who actually 390 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 5: had coached Barack Obama, you know Bill Ayers and Bernadine 391 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 5: dor to the Weather Underground. What did they do? They 392 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 5: got acceptable positions marching through the institutions as university professors 393 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 5: like Angela Davis and so many others at that time. 394 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 5: Then they recruited students, radicalize them. Now we're talking to 395 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 5: even on the third generation now of Rabi. So a 396 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 5: lot of these people get so alienated, like everything's fascist, 397 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 5: everything's not to everything's racist. Therefore we have to destroy them. 398 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 5: Imagine if we had a chance to kill Hitler before 399 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 5: he created the Third Reich, what a better world this 400 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 5: would be. So a lot of these people really believe 401 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 5: that they're fighting evil. They've been radicalized. The people in 402 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 5: control understand something quite different. They have an ideological cause, 403 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 5: which is to overthrow our constitution and to turn our 404 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 5: country into a communist regime. So they're using a lot 405 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 5: of people who don't know anything about history, a lot 406 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 5: of very well meaning people, and a lot of just 407 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 5: twisted six people who are just messed up in their 408 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 5: larger movement to destroy our society from within. 409 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: Doctor Waller, can you explain that we'll get back to 410 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: the actual cadres and the makeup of these people for 411 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: a moment. Can you explain for a moment what the violence? 412 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: How does it help them? Not just assassinations. You're blocking 413 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: ice facilities, You look like a freak. Surely this is 414 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: going to turn people against your movement. But they've been 415 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: using these tactics forever, so there has to be a point. 416 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: What is the point? 417 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 5: There's a really important point to the violence, because violence 418 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 5: creates real solidarity. It's kind of like if you're in 419 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 5: military combat. You've got buddies who you're going through hell 420 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 5: with and you're going to do anything for one another, 421 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 5: even if you don't know them from before, and you're 422 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 5: always going to have a special identity with them, and 423 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 5: for the rest of your life, you're going to identify 424 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 5: with them first, So you have a certain kind of language, 425 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 5: certain kind of gestures where everybody kind of understands everybody 426 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: else at the expense of those who are not in 427 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 5: the know. So it creates the system of what the 428 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 5: communists called cadres. It's called cadre building, and these are 429 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 5: the foot soldiers of any revolutionary movement in the case 430 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 5: we're talking about here inside the country. So what the 431 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 5: violence does yere? First, you know, if you get into 432 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 5: any crowd mentality, or like you get into a good 433 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 5: a good concert, right, there are a lot of people 434 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 5: and it gets rowdy and you end up doing stuff 435 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 5: you ordinarily wouldn't do as an individual because it's wrong 436 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 5: and it's stupid, and it's whatever. It's constructive, but it 437 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 5: can be kind of fun when you're in it with 438 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 5: everybody else and you're part of it. If you're a 439 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 5: doup or you're just it's sort of dragged into it, 440 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 5: or even if you came in planning to do it, 441 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 5: it's cool, it's exciting. Now you've had an experience, so 442 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 5: the next time you go into this you're you're enthused 443 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 5: about it, and then people see uh huh. Who responded 444 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 5: best to this, who's most aggressive about this, who will 445 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 5: do as they're told without question, Who are some of 446 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 5: the natural leaders in this, And that's how they they 447 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 5: locate and identify and then end up recruiting hardcore radicals 448 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 5: into their movement. So if you look at the way 449 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 5: Antifa has been living up in Portland and Seattle and 450 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 5: so forth, living in tense, living in squalor living in 451 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 5: sort of commune where everybody shares everything and shares everybody's 452 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 5: experiences and lives a very hard life and very harsh 453 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 5: weather conditions and food conditions and health conditions. There's a 454 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 5: solidarity that breeds among them, just like Miles guerrillas did 455 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 5: in the mountains, and it's going to be an unbreakable solidarity. 456 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 5: So that's the purpose of the violence. The purpose of 457 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 5: the violence is also to give them a sense of empowerment. 458 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 5: If they can hold back the cops, if they can 459 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 5: get the governor of a state, not necessarily Oregon, but 460 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 5: a governor of a state or the president of the 461 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 5: United States to denounce them and to denounce their movement, 462 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 5: that makes it more important. That jazzes them up, and 463 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 5: then they get into a clash with cops National Guard, whatever. 464 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 5: It's really pretty cool if you're look at it from 465 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 5: their perspective, and now they think we are being repressed. 466 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 5: We have to fight this repression. This proves that they're 467 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 5: fascists who have come out after us because they're trying 468 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 5: to stop us from freeing the people of racism and oppression. 469 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: Doctor Weller, last question for you here, but please take 470 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: as much time as you need. How do we stop it? 471 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: Obviously the cancer has metastasized badly. These cells are everywhere. 472 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: What is the method to break it up? I understand 473 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: we may not have the expertise at the FBI right now, 474 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: but what should we be doing if we did well? 475 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 5: First, the FBI and federal law enforcement needs to build 476 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 5: bad expertise, and there are plenty of people on the 477 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 5: outside who have it. Guys like Andy no On X, 478 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 5: you know, he's been through all of this. There are 479 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 5: a whole bunch of people like that who already know 480 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 5: this and how it works, and they're going to have 481 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 5: different opinions based on their different perspectives. So all of 482 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 5: these different folks are going to be very useful. Then 483 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 5: you have people on our side who've approached it from 484 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 5: the scholarly perspective, or they've been doing this like as 485 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 5: I had since the nineteen eighties when I was in 486 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: college we were collecting information on the left. We still 487 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 5: have all of that stuff people older had been collecting 488 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 5: since Vietnam. They're still around. They have a whole lot 489 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 5: of historic knowledge, even who was who and who was 490 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 5: doing what. In the pre digital age. You can collect 491 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 5: all that material, digitize it, build big databases of it 492 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 5: because it's all open source, and you can provide it 493 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 5: to journalists, to guys like you, to law enforcement, to 494 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 5: anybody who needs it, and help people become experts on it, 495 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 5: and especially help state and local law enforcement because they're 496 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 5: the people who need it most. 497 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: He is, Doctor J. Michael Waller, absolutely wonderful. Please come 498 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: back and join us soon. Thank you for that bit 499 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: of education there. Anytime, this goes to what we've discussed before, 500 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: a bit of we may not have the horses left 501 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: because they captured the institutions, and that was part of 502 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: the reason they captured them, of course, so they could 503 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: reward their friends and punish their enemies. 504 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 5: You and me. 505 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: Anyway, we'll come back. Well, do some more emails next 506 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: before we do some emails. Let's talk about free things. Generally, 507 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: free things are garbage. That's just a fact. We like free, 508 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: but it never works out that way. Hillsdale College is 509 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: the greatest free thing I've ever. 510 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: Seen in my life. Now, don't get me wrong. 511 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: I hate to spoil it for you know, you do 512 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: not get to attend Hillsdale College on campus for free, 513 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: and in fact, you probably can't get in. I most 514 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: definitely cannot. But we, all, all of us, we get 515 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: to get educated by Hillsdale College more than forty free 516 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: online courses. They give it out. They don't want just 517 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: Hillsdale's students to know about capitalism or the Constitution, or 518 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: Rome or the Book of Genesis, or they don't want that. 519 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: They want that for every single American citizen. And they 520 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: give it to us for free. Do this with yourself, 521 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: do this with your family, Do it in the car. 522 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: Spend an hour in the weekend. Hillsdale Die Edu slash Jesse. 523 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: We'll be back. 524 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 3: The Jesse Kelly Show. 525 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday. 526 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: I remember you can email us, and you should. We 527 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: love your emails. Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow dot com jesse 528 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: my problem with Trump from January sixth. 529 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: Oh, he's talking about on Friday. 530 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: We did a long January sixth talk with the indictment 531 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: of Comy and the FBI whatnot. He says, how could 532 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: he not have known Democrats were going to arrange a 533 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: break in and make it look like Republicans did it. 534 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: I knew that was going to happen. Everyone should have known, says, 535 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: I can use his name. His name is Scott. Okay, 536 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: it's very fair to criticize Trump whenever you disagree with Trump. 537 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: He's not your god. Okay, that's one. 538 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: But if I may, Trump has and I used to 539 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: be very hard on him because he wouldn't do this. 540 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: Trump has acknowledged, and he did it in my physical presence. 541 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has acknowledged that he did not know how 542 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: DC operated, and he did not understand it when he 543 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: got there for his first four years. This sounds like 544 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: an excuse. Just stay with me for a second, though. 545 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something, and you're not going 546 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: to believe it, especially if you're a huge Trump fan, 547 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: if you look up to him a great deal. 548 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you something. 549 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: The two thousand and sixteen version of Donald Trump who 550 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: walked into the White House. You had a better understanding 551 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: of politics, DC, Communists and the danger than he did. 552 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: Do you know that you knew more than he did? 553 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: And he would probably tell you that remember this for 554 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: all the good he's done and all the good he's doing. 555 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was not a political person. He was a 556 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: New York businessman, a New York businessman who cut deals 557 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: with Democrats, donated the Democrats. 558 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: Cut deals with Republicans. He's just a business guy. It's 559 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: on TV. 560 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: He's a real estate guy. He got to Washington, d C. 561 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: And he got put through a four year crucible learning 562 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: just how evil these people are. This is what I 563 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: want to caution you against, because I tend to do 564 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: this too. We tend to think titles automatically come with 565 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: the knowledge that title should hold. Don't we think that 566 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: it's perfectly natural? Your doctor he knows a lot more 567 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: about medicine than you do. Right, Really did your doctor 568 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: tell your kid to take the COVID vat Your doctor knows. 569 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: Less than you do? Possibly, I don't mean your doctor specifically, well, 570 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: that general. 571 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: He knows about logistics, he knows about tactic. Really, are 572 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: you sure do you think in the system we have now, 573 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: you get promoted only through merit, You get promoted because 574 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, or you get promoted because of who you know. 575 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: And the exact same thing applies to our politicians. Surely, 576 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 1: my House representative, my senator. He knows how government works. 577 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: What's real. Really, do you think that it applies to 578 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 2: the president too? Surely? 579 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's president of the United States of America. He 580 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: understands how evil the Federal Bureau of Investigation is. He 581 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: understands everything about their history. He understands things like Waco 582 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: and Ruby Ridge and. 583 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: All these other things. He knows all this right, No, 584 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: he didn't. 585 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: He was lost as a river duck for his first 586 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: four years. Conceptually he had the right ideas about a 587 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: lot of things. He knew deportations were good for securities. 588 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: Conceptually he was right. He's not a moron by any 589 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination, quite intelligent. But you knew more 590 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: than twenty sixteen Donald Trump did about the evil nature 591 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: of the communists. Now, in the year of our Lord 592 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, Trump is quite aware. 593 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: He knows. 594 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: Now, once you've been shot, arrested, impeached twice. Now he 595 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: gets it once you've had your own FBI director. At 596 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: least the first one try to take you down and 597 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: the second one screw you over. 598 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: You're pretty aware of it. 599 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: Do you agree with the strategy of focusing on the 600 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: oath keepers and focusing on prosecuting that group. 601 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 6: Of individuals first. 602 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: In order for it to be a deterrent. 603 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 6: You've got to throw the net wide, get all of them, 604 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 6: both the organized groups, proud Boys, oathkeepers, but find everybody 605 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 6: who went into that building. Find them all again. Not 606 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 6: because of my concern that those people who committed a 607 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 6: misdemeanor are they're going to go into the community and reoffend. 608 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 6: The message has to be sent of zero tolerance. We 609 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 6: will find everyone and punish everyone who went in there 610 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 6: so that no one does it again. We will hunt 611 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 6: you to the end of the earth, even for a misdemeanor, 612 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 6: and make you pay for that. To send that message. 613 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: Do you think Donald Trump knew that January sixth was 614 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: the Reichstag fire the Communists used to hunt down their 615 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: political opponents and treat them like terrorists. Do you think 616 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: he knew that on January sixth? Of course he didn't. 617 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: Of course he didn't he was calling for Nancy Pelosi 618 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: to bring in the National Guard. Of course she didn't. 619 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: Wonder why she didn't. I wonder why. It almost seemed 620 00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: like she wanted it to happen. Anyway, I understand what 621 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: you're saying, and that that was not an effort to 622 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: make excuses. There are some things that can't be excused. 623 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: Even naivete doesn't excuse it. But like the COVID response 624 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: of fifteen days to slow the spread, he has to 625 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: own that he always will. That sucked, but it is 626 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 1: what it is, all right. I'm finally going to get 627 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: to them using their power and things changing. Things are 628 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: slowly changing, and we should take heart and that. Before 629 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: we get to that, and emails and so much more, 630 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you. 631 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 2: About your bed. 632 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: Your bed is where you spend a third of your life. 633 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: Do you and your spouse happen to sleep at different temperatures? 634 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: You're well aware that AB is cold all the time. 635 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: I am hot all the time. How in the world 636 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: do you select sheets? 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