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Speaker 1: You know what, you can start it for me.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead. Welcome in SEC Media Days, Josh Pate alongside

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Speaker 2: Cole Kublic for whatever platform this is going to be on.

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Speaker 2: It has been an interesting week for us, but not

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Speaker 2: so much for information coming out of Media Day. It's

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Speaker 2: been a little bit quiet outside of McElroy running his mouth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it sucked all right.

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Speaker 3: Cole Kublic alongside Josh pay We're here at SEC Media Days.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, sir, here we go. No, we're here

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Speaker 3: rolled the whole thing like, I'm gonna hear that whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 3: You don't see a team to beat in the SEC?

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Speaker 3: Do you do you think there's a definitive team to beat?

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Speaker 2: I think there are a couple of teams at the top.

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Speaker 2: You could probably take your pick in a grouping of

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Speaker 2: one through four Alabama, Georgia, Yeah, Texas, and then LSU

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Speaker 2: would be one that I guess I'm now allowing because

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Speaker 2: so many other people want them there, which is odd

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Speaker 2: because normally you would have to have a quarterback for

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Speaker 2: most people to pick you to win the SEC, but

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Speaker 2: not as many people are on LSU. Yeah, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: put one of them ahead of the others, I kind

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Speaker 2: of classify them together. So no, there's not a definitive

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Speaker 2: team out in front, but the classification of teams behind

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Speaker 2: them is what I find most interesting about the league.

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Speaker 1: This shit, I've actually heard you talk about that. Because

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Speaker 1: I want to spend.

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Speaker 2: I'll be quiet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they may have it, though.

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Speaker 3: Do they know where the podcast is? Some would say yes,

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Speaker 3: Some shows that are emanating from over there.

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Speaker 1: Would say no, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I may or may not have appeared on that show

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: That's all you want?

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Speaker 3: Buy it several times though not to be specific you

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Speaker 3: the quote of.

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Speaker 2: The week was from that show saying, I just love

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Speaker 2: like your work. You're doing that on that podcast and

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Speaker 2: those things.

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Speaker 1: Love it. Look one day it'll get a name. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're a NASCAR guy at all.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday Date Night podcast.

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Speaker 1: Just drop it. We'll let you promote it.

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with Nascar, but just promote

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Speaker 3: it anyway in Nascar, Like if you turn on Talladega.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a racing expert or anything, but I know

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Speaker 3: when you have like a lead of cars, if they're

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Speaker 3: all going one ninety, there's no skill in no one

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Speaker 3: who's gonna win that race. But number two, if one

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Speaker 3: of them goes down to one eighty five, they just

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Speaker 3: quickly fall behind the pack. So I think of the

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Speaker 3: lead pack of teams in the SEC that way, because

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Speaker 3: they send out the ballot like they email us a ballot.

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Speaker 3: You can fill it out or not, but it's your

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Speaker 3: order of finish in the SEC, and they literally have

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Speaker 3: you do one through sixteen. So as as a mental exercise,

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Speaker 3: I was sitting there doing it last night and I looked,

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Speaker 3: and you could go any any combination of Georgia or

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Speaker 1: Let's just call that a top four whatever.

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Speaker 3: But then if you go you could go South Carolina fifth,

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Speaker 3: you could go South Carolina tenth easily.

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Speaker 1: There's no change, Like there's no different.

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Speaker 2: Six ten, Florida six ten, A and M six ten, Ole,

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Speaker 3: But if I were to tell my South Carolina cousin,

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Speaker 3: we're going to the playoff. If I tell him you're

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Speaker 3: finishing tenth, they said, Bro, there's no way we're finishing ten.

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Speaker 1: There's no way we're that bad. And I'm like there's

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Speaker 2: Not much, but there is, Josh, somebody's going backwards. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And that's what I find difficult to sort of pinpoint

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Speaker 2: I don't see that. So the one thing you left

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Speaker 1: Then they're all three lost cars.

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Speaker 2: Here comes Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: He like you just mentioned something, all right, So you're

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Speaker 3: talking about like all these lead pack teams. The perception

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Speaker 3: there has always been a classification of teams the way

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Speaker 3: we talk about him in July. That's a ten win

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Speaker 3: Georgia is ten and two, they win the league last year,

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Speaker 3: ten and two regular season, they win the league last year?

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Speaker 3: What caliber of team do you think will win the

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Speaker 3: Georgia twenty twenty one Georgia Alabama? There's probably not a

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Speaker 1: At the top of this league this year?

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Speaker 2: Very similar to that Georgia team last year. And part

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Speaker 2: of this is you and I've had this conversation. We

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Speaker 2: haven't rewired our brains yet to a two loss team

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Speaker 2: they're a nine win football team. That's actually really good

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Speaker 2: with where we we are right now. I don't think

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Speaker 2: be a two loss team. I doubted even be a

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna get an old miss team like that. Again,

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Speaker 2: that Alabama team was still pretty good and that was

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Speaker 2: a completely bonkers game on the road that you had

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Speaker 2: multiple chances to win. So no, I don't think one

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Speaker 1: All Right, it's hard to get information this week.

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Speaker 3: We do get it though, man, Like you can talk

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Speaker 3: better feedback is like when guys leave here and then

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Speaker 3: they're talking to you, it's just like they're loosening their

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Speaker 3: straighter with you. But it pales in comparison to what

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Speaker 2: But like I told you too, my best information is

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Speaker 2: like thirteen minutes before kid, Yeah, nobody want to tell

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Speaker 2: you anything about like, well, you know, the tight end's

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Speaker 2: we even talk during the week? That's all I need it?

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Speaker 2: So similar to what you're saying there is yeah, same thing.

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Speaker 3: So the feedback you've got, whatever you've gotten this week,

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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit down on Auburn after yesterday hearing

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Speaker 2: Hugh Freeze talk about instructing his defensive staff to essentially

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Speaker 2: make life easy on Jackson Arnold in practice to boost

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Does this mean Auburn's gonna go six and six? No?

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Speaker 2: I just don't like that when I know that confidence

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Speaker 2: and you know I've talked about it. It's got to

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Speaker 2: be rewired. Like if this is Jurassic Park, you got

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Speaker 2: can't be the same guy that he was last year.

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Speaker 2: But I also don't think you can fabricate that confidence.

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Speaker 2: Gotta go out and do it, and by doing it.

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Speaker 2: You gotta remember a conversation with Brian Kelly to you

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Speaker 2: thing you want a quarterback to do. But he and

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Speaker 2: this completely goes against what I've told you. McElroy's comment

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Speaker 2: think worked against Jackson Arnold, but he said, I want

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Speaker 2: to prove to him one you can take the shot too.

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Speaker 2: If it doesn't go our way, it's okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get the ball back. We're gonna have opportunities to win

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Speaker 2: that game. And guess what he's never gonna do if

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Speaker 3: You know. The thing I wrestle with with Jackson Arnold,

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Speaker 3: I've built hopes up in too many seasons in the

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Speaker 3: physical tools. So did a lot of other staffs because

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Speaker 3: they offered him a scholarship to play football for him.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Leby told me he's the most talented quarterback he's

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Speaker 2: Like you don't forget.

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Speaker 3: That, Okay, But then it's also the case that you

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Speaker 3: don't forget that you saw the implosion last year on

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Speaker 3: high school. That's the blip on the radar screen. Hugh

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Speaker 3: perfect meshing of quarterback in system. There's one side of

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Speaker 3: right now. And that's if we're talking about confidence, like

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Speaker 3: do we really think we're gonna find that on the

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Speaker 3: week one? Like do we really think that's gonna happen?

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Speaker 3: And if it doesn't happen, this isn't like Georgia a

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Speaker 3: Kirby if he lost a game in week one, it's

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Speaker 3: Kirby and Georgia, everyone's still confident. Well, that's not the

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Speaker 3: biber A on Auburn. You need what in the media

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Speaker 3: industry we would call pop. You need proof of performance,

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Speaker 3: like you need a reason to believe Rod Stewart reference.

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Speaker 1: You need a lot of the metaphorical stuff.

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Speaker 2: So that Phillips Arena down the street, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Was it Phillips or State Farm at the time?

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Speaker 2: Phillips. Those one of the best concerts I've ever been to.

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Speaker 2: This is why this is such a difficult conversation to

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Speaker 2: this year. They're gonna have a good ground game, they're

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Speaker 1: We've got the personnel like we can do what we

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Speaker 2: Here's what I would want to hear from Colin Klein

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Speaker 2: part of the mentality. But Josh, you have to live it,

435
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,920
Speaker 2: man like. You can't just one day say let's be

436
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,560
Speaker 2: ground and pound. It doesn't work that way. You got

437
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,880
Speaker 2: to do it in practice. You have to finish in practice.

438
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 2: You need to do it in games to understand how

439
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,120
Speaker 2: it works, why it doesn't work. And I do think

440
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,680
Speaker 2: mentally they'll go back to that and they'll be a

441
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,080
Speaker 2: little bit more of that this year. I think he's

442
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 2: excited about this is why I took away from de

443
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,640
Speaker 2: bor today watching him and then having him on our show.

444
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 2: I think he's excited about his team. I think last

445
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 2: year he was excited about a couple of players.

446
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 1: That's a good way to put it. That's a really

447
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,199
Speaker 1: good way to put it.

448
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,719
Speaker 3: I think also, look, the testament to anyone taking over

449
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 3: a new program is when you get into the second

450
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 3: full go around, if you still got portal churn, especially

451
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 3: outward portal churn, and you're not sort of pushing them

452
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,399
Speaker 3: out the door, then you probably still lack buy in.

453
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 1: So they're not really dealing with that.

454
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Smith went to Notre Dame guy

455
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 3: that didn't finish a lot of games for him last year.

456
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 3: So outside of that, they kept all their guys, which

457
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 3: was kind of a theme for Ohio State this past year.

458
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 3: But the way the way I looked at it is

459
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 3: that I mean Kaylyn de Borby and that dude is

460
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 3: never gonna have anyone.

461
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,360
Speaker 1: Feel sorry for him.

462
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 3: I don't know of any other person who's been put

463
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 3: in a comparable position in recent history that he was

464
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 3: in last year, because no one's ever taken over for

465
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,879
Speaker 3: Nick Saban. In the end, the Pole era in a

466
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 3: time on the calendar where the exit door's open, but

467
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 3: no one can come in for a little while. And

468
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 3: then you're also having to, you know, decide what parts

469
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 3: of this building am I gonna retain? Like you go

470
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 3: in there just like I do. They're critical parts of

471
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 3: Saban's infrastructure still there. And then they're trying to mesh

472
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 3: with guys that have coached in the Pacific Northwest, and

473
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 3: it's just it's kind of a weird dynamic. And again,

474
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 3: no one's especially him's I gonna ask you, hey, feel

475
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 3: sorry for me. I just felt like last year was

476
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 3: played on the heels for that program.

477
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 2: Have a little bit of understanding of where it all is. Also,

478
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 2: let's think personality wise Malachim more at the end of

479
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 2: the Vanderbilt game, Jalen Milroe getting Ryan Williams face after

480
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 2: a pick against Oklahoma. I don't recall a lot of

481
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 2: Saban guys doing those things, Yes, but to flip that

482
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 2: around when you're kayling to or how much of an

483
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: iron fist do you want to attempt to rule with

484
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 2: that early? Now, there's two scools of thought there One

485
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: Tommy Tuberville when I was at Auburn, blow it up,

486
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 2: run everybody off, and you know what if they go

487
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,719
Speaker 2: through all this crap that we're about to put them

488
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 2: through and stick around, maybe they got a shred of

489
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 2: toughness and we'll find a way to use them, but

490
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 2: we want you all gone. Basically, well, they're too talented

491
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 2: to do that, right. There's no in this era of

492
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 2: trying to get guys in through the portal back out

493
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: of the portal. You can't really live that way. So

494
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 2: I think there had to be a little bit of

495
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 2: operating with kid gloves year one for the Boar and

496
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 2: he realizes now he doesn't have to do that because

497
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 2: these are guys that want to play for him, not Oh,

498
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: I'm not playing for Nick Saban anymore. I can act

499
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: however I want or do whatever I want to do

500
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: or wanted to do the whole time. And I've got

501
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: this free reign now. So I think that buy in

502
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 2: that you mentioned, I think it comes with even more

503
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: of how he's going to be able to operate than

504
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 2: just how the players operate individually.

505
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: I think also what's fun is the way you run

506
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,479
Speaker 3: your offseason program. A year later, we I was down

507
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 3: there for a spring practice and like Blue and Rick

508
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 3: and a lot of those who run strength and conditioner

509
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: for Alabama, had one of them look at me during

510
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: a practice because I asked them how the strength and

511
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 3: conditioning portion go, and he just looked at me, you know,

512
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: like he had come back from a funeral, and he said,

513
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 3: it's not like it was in nineteen sixty.

514
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: It's not like it was in nineteen ninety.

515
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 3: But I swear to you, we pushed every limit we

516
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 3: possibly could in this last program, in this winter program,

517
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 3: we just put these dudes through. So anyone who came

518
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: out of that, I promise you wants to be here.

519
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 3: I promise you they do. Go over to the Chattahoochie

520
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: go over to Georgia for a second, go wherever you

521
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 3: want to like, general thoughts on them within the context

522
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Speaker 3: of last year coming into this year.

523
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 2: I have a weird feeling that what we saw last

524
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: year at Texas it wasn't as omnipresent. I'm trying to

525
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: get that in as much as I can, because it's impressive.

526
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 3: Man, you could tell that fortune cookie that you opened

527
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: at PF Chains the other night.

528
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: It was on there somewhere.

529
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: The LEADUS wraps weren't good, but either way, I think

530
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: that there's going to be more of that. It wasn't

531
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 2: as much in the SEC Championship game, not later. It

532
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: was because I think when Gunnar Stockton came in, that

533
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 2: offensive line hit a switch and they said, you know what,

534
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 2: We're about to run the football, and they did. But

535
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: I think there's going to be more of going into

536
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: games just saying we're more rugged, we're more bad, we

537
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: operate with more brutality. Can you deal with it? But

538
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: the skill is also going to be really good. People

539
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: wonder why I think the offensive line is going to

540
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 2: be so good. Well, I've seen Monroe Freeling put up

541
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: good reps. If Drew Bobo doesn't have the best grasp

542
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: of the offense in Georgia football history, then we should

543
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: probably stall shut it down. And two years ago Ernest

544
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: Green was one of the best tackles in the SEC.

545
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: I think he can get back to that. He had

546
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: a down year last year. It's fair it happens. I

547
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: think he can get back to being one of the

548
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: premier tackles in the Southeastern Conference. A great group of

549
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: tight ends to go with those guys running back depth,

550
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: holding onto the football maybe, but you got a quarterback

551
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: that's going to be able to give you runs. You

552
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: have an offensive line. I think it's going to be improved.

553
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: That physicality is not going to be an issue with

554
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: with great skill around them. I'm not overly scared of

555
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: the defense. But even I, Josh, have to tell myself

556
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: to slow down because I say this with Bama LSU, Oh,

557
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: the defense doesn't look scary, And then I have to

558
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: what am I comparing that to?

559
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: Right, You're compared's a couple of years ago.

560
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be Bama twenty eighteen or whatever like so,

561
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: I think they have enough on that side of the

562
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 2: ball with guys like Raylan Wilson, who could pop out

563
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden be the next Georgia star,

564
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: or kJ Bolden could be the next Georgia star. Even

565
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: everybody knows about it because a freshman safety, they're gonna

566
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: have enough guys over there to be effective. And I

567
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 2: think Kirby and his staff know how to get those

568
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: guys in place to make plays. And they have enough

569
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: guys that have been there long enough. Like take a

570
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 2: guy like Gabe Harris, like he's been there in the system.

571
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 2: He played outside linebacker, he's played three techniques. He just

572
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: he's a guy that knows how it's done. And I

573
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: think those guys are gonna start to emerge. And this

574
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,239
Speaker 2: is gonna be a year that Georgia goes into it

575
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 2: and says, we might not be as skilled or as

576
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: big and bad as we are before, but we can

577
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: inject enough blunt force trauma to help us win games.

578
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: And most teams that we play are not gonna want

579
00:24:59,040 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: to deal with it.

580
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Speaker 1: So it's very, very popular.

581
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: As you just listen to the echoes around this place

582
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: for people to talk about how they couldn't run the

583
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: ball last year, defensive production a little bit off.

584
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: I highly doubt that that is their terminal flaw two

585
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: years in a row.

586
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: If terminal flaw is relative, there what I think could

587
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 3: bite them. If something does this year, they may go

588
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 3: twelve and oh regular season and go to the playoffs

589
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 3: the one seed. But if they don't, if they're sort

590
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 3: of vulnerable again. I think the vulnerability is in what

591
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 3: he's talked about a lot, like he's Kirby's talked about

592
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: this over and over again. You ask him, what's the

593
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 3: biggest fundamental difference right now as opposed to the teams

594
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: you had a few years ago.

595
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: He said, my.

596
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 3: Nucleus is second year players. That's my nucleus. We used

597
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 3: to just be baptizing them in their second year three

598
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: or four years ago. So what he hasn't told me

599
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 3: or anyone else is well, I'm gonna simplify everything I

600
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 3: do defensively. We're gonna loosen the nood a little bit. Yeah,

601
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 3: we're not gonna do all the stuff that we used

602
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: to do because that's the only way I know how

603
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: to do it. So you're gonna face Steve Sarcusan this year.

604
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: You're gonna face Dbor, You're gonna face Kiffen, You're gonna

605
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: face a lot of the best offensive minds in the sport.

606
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 3: Now they're gonna come to your place. I think all

607
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: three of those come to their place. But if they're undone,

608
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 3: I think it's they look dominant at times and then

609
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: every game.

610
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: Out of the ones they lose. You can go back in.

611
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: And say critical bust, critical bust, critical bust, young player,

612
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: young player, young player, Sark Kiffin debor exposing whatever small

613
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 3: mismatch I saw, and that's the difference in a fourteen

614
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: point swing in the game.

615
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: That's what bid us.

616
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: I'll give you one name where I think going up

617
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: against those kind of guys and those kind of offenses

618
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: could end up making the massive difference this year, and

619
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: that's Elo Medozilo. Yeah, I was saying, Elo, I think

620
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: it's Loo.

621
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: The Army kid.

622
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: I've been correct.

623
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: The Army Gibb.

624
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: Who is as twitchy, as quick, as fast as bindy

625
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: as any edge rusher Georgia has ever had. That's Jarvis Jones, idiot. Now,

626
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 2: he might not have the bulk and the strength, but

627
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: if you're talking about get off, flexibility, quickness, twitch, he's

628
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: got all of it and his motor does not quit.

629
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: He's a great fit for what they have and what

630
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 2: they need and kind of what that program is and

631
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: when I'm talking about getting back to just we physically

632
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: are going to be more than you. Yeah, and not

633
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: that he's gonna overpower people, but I also think bringing

634
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: his mentality into that defense from where he's been just

635
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: makes it a great fit. I think you're gonna have

636
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: more just dogs on not no pun intended on that

637
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: side of the ball, to just find ways to get

638
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: things done, as opposed to first round draft picks that

639
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 2: overpower you no matter what.

640
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think about the personnel defensively especially

641
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: but you got to.

642
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: Where you want to.

643
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: Florida love Caleb Banks. Yeah, Caleb Banks again, Ello Mendozi

644
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: was just one of those guys. We could run through

645
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: a laundry list of guys that we're gonna mention that

646
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: no one's talking about in this whole four days that

647
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: we're here. Well, they don't know him. And Caleb Banks

648
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: is one of those guys. He is a legitimate takeover

649
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: in tier defensive lineman. And we used to come to

650
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: media days and every team had two, some had four,

651
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: or one might have one, but they were all over

652
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: the place. But the Jeffrey simmons Is and the Derrick

653
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: Browns and the Jonathan Allens. They don't really feel like

654
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: they're as plentiful as they were at one time in

655
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 2: this league. He is one of those guys. Yeah, the

656
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: front is going to be solid, The linebacking corps is

657
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: going to be good. I'll worry a little bit about

658
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: the secondary. But that offensive line, with how they operate,

659
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: you don't have to be Orlando Pace or Alan Fanica

660
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: in that offensive line running stretch play as much as

661
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: they do. Here's another name, jaden Baugh, who I think,

662
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: if they didn't have two running backs, would easily go

663
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: for eighteen hundred yards this year six one, two thirty

664
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: five legitimate wiggle, can run, pass you, over you, through you,

665
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: and then can give you a spin move unlike you've

666
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: ever seen. They have a good receiver corps. If DJ

667
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: Lagway's healthy, I don't know why their offense doesn't move

668
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: the football, and they'll be able to do it in

669
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: different ways and a lot of other teams will be

670
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: able to do.

671
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: I legitimately think if you were to say there's a

672
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: player in this league that goes from like nowhere to

673
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 3: All American status nowhere on the national radar to All

674
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: American status, it's probably him ball because I think as

675
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: much as they may split carriers there, he's closing games

676
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: for him. And I also think that he's gonna be

677
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: in enough high profile moments like they got Texas coming

678
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: in there, They're gonna go to LSU, They're gonna play Miami,

679
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: and that's the first half of the season.

680
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: They do all those things.

681
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: I really think, man, he's one of those guys you

682
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: almost kind of discover him by accident, like gets he

683
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: gets some more reps last year because of injury, right,

684
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: And you could say the same about the quarterback position.

685
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: But you know what, if you think that bad luck

686
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: and bad breaks are a thing in this game, then

687
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: don't ever apologize when when something just happens to fall

688
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: in your lap. Don't ever apologize for that. And I

689
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: assume Billy Napi're done. But the other thing I think

690
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: about with them is, you know, everyone's so caught up

691
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: on schedule. Like I can't tell you how many times

692
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: I've heard this week or in general this spring, people say,

693
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: what do you think about.

694
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: Florida's team this year? That schedule?

695
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: I didn't ask you about Florida. Let's just I want

696
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 3: to know how good do you think that team is?

697
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: And truthfully, I know this is dirty to talk about

698
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: pass lagway. Doesn't seem like people know many players at

699
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: Florida or any Yeah, doesn't seem that way.

700
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: You have.

701
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: First off, this is maybe the deepest season at center

702
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: in the SEC that I've ever seen. They have one

703
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: that's really good. The offensive line has a ton of experience,

704
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: Like I remember when Damien George was at Alabama and

705
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: now Nick Saban told me on the sideline before a game,

706
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: he said, we have to get him in the game. Yeah,

707
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: he's the most talented offensive lineman we have. Why is

708
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: he not playing? And I said, that's why you stay

709
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: with the DBS and make fun of it for watching

710
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: the old lines, because there's a lot more that goes

711
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: into it to being talented actually playing. But now he

712
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: knows what he's doing, he's in a system. This little

713
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: bit forgiving, he's down at guards so he can be

714
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: more physical. You got Barber out there at left tackle.

715
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: He's played a ton And I'm just telling you, Josh,

716
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: that is a complimentary offense. As to the receivers can

717
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: have heavier or less involvement running backs heavier or less involvement.

718
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: Quarterback run. It can be there or can be taken away.

719
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: Tight ends can be big or you cannot use them.

720
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: But also what it can do for your defense, the

721
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: secondary struggles a little bit, that could easily become a

722
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: ball control offense. Yeah, that shrinks the game. How many

723
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: teams in this league can we look at right now

724
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: and say, if need be, they can shrink the game tomorrow?

725
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: I know Vanderbilt can. I think Floren's going to be

726
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: able to. I think A and M will be able to.

727
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: I don't look at a lot of other teams in

728
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: this league and just say they're going to be able

729
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: to go do that. They can play that style ball

730
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: for long periods of game, of games, or even the season.

731
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 3: The vibe around Tennessee right now. They were in here

732
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: yesterday as you and I were talking. You know a

733
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: lot of people ask the question, it's like default position.

734
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: If you made the playoffs the year before, but you

735
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: were one and done. The default position is all right,

736
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: how do you build off of that? Or like, how

737
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: do you take the next step? That's a really popular phrase.

738
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: And I look at it and I say, well, as

739
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: far as I know, everyone starts zero and zero again.

740
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: So like you do, you don't take the next step.

741
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: Hopefully you're better than you were last year. But with them,

742
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: I'm in this very weird headspace where, if you know

743
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: the entire context of where that program was, Hypel pulled

744
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: them out of the ditch big tests, all right. So

745
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: then you start to zoom in a little bit more.

746
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: You know, they made the playoff last year. It's a

747
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 3: pretty big deal for that program or any program. Then

748
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: you zoom in a little bit more, and you know, well,

749
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: they got blown out once they made the playoffs. So

750
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: the season ended on a sour note, but still relative

751
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: to where Tennessee had been phenomenal, like incredible improvement. Okay,

752
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: so you're supposed to feel really good coming out of

753
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: a playoff year, and I did about Tennessee.

754
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: Having said that, if.

755
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: You were around them last year and you talked about

756
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: anything other than the twenty twenty four season, they already

757
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: knew last year our offensive line situation.

758
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: Could be a little precarious next year.

759
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: They knew that before they ever knew the Nico drama

760
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: was going to pop up. So my point there is

761
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: they probably didn't know they were going to be as

762
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: good defensively as they were last year, but they ended

763
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: up being really good defensively, so you have a lot

764
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: of attrition. Then you got the Nico stuff happened. My

765
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: perspective on them was already this may be a little

766
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: bit of a reset year, But now with the Nico stuff,

767
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: I haven't changed my opinion. I still think it's going

768
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: to be a reset year for them, of sorts. There's

769
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: this headspace I'm in right now where if they're an

770
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: eight and four team this year, all four losses are competitive,

771
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: they don't go to the playoff, but in the aggregate,

772
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: they developed a lot, They got a ton of returning

773
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: production for next year. They got the number one quarterback

774
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: in the country coming in, and you planted the flag

775
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: for your program harder than any head coach has in

776
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: terms of taking a stand on the Nico front. There's

777
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: this really weird way they could come out of that

778
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: kind of season and I could feel better about them

779
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: even than I did coming out of last year. And

780
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: they're double digit wins in the playoff last.

781
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: There's any doubt And I've actually started to pump the

782
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: brakes on myself a little bit because I think we

783
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: all saw the Nico situation, and I was the first

784
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: one to applaud it. The nation applauded it. But I

785
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 2: warned parentheses with that, are you okay to accept and

786
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: eight wins season because it's probably coming. Nico made plenty

787
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: of mistakes last year. He missthrows, he misreads, but it

788
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: was that ceiling that we all saw the possibility that

789
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: we saw where he had the real potential to take them.

790
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: Joey Aguer doesn't have that. Now, that's okay. He's got

791
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: to cut down on the turnovers. He still played a

792
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: ton of football. Now there are fundamental portions of what

793
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 2: he's going to be asked to do that he's never done.

794
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: You can talk. I talked to Josh yesterday. I asked

795
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: him on set, I said, try to explain some of

796
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: the details that go into tempo, where the receivers line up,

797
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: where receivers run to for the next play when they

798
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: know they're not getting the football, what official to hand

799
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: the football too when a play is over. You have

800
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: to learn all these things, Josh, and that's different for him.

801
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 2: But then I asked myself the same question with him

802
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: that I've been trying to tell people about Lane Kiffen,

803
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: who was the last quarterback for Josh Hipel. That wasn't good. Yeah,

804
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: people say Joe Milton, and I would respond to I

805
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: think they got everything out of Joe Milton. They got

806
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: because Joe Milton was never going to be a great quarterback.

807
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: He was a great talent playing quarterback. And that's okay.

808
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: Joey Igrew has proven he's a quarterback. All he's got

809
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 2: to do is be good in this system, and he'll

810
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: be fine because the receivers are talented. He got a

811
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: good group of tight ends, and then I got concerned

812
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: about running back up until last week. I'm gonna give

813
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: m a fair shout of here, had Austin Price on

814
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: the show. He said, I love Dylan Samson. I love

815
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: how he presses a line of scrimmage. He makes offensive

816
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: lineman right, he follows his blocks and presses his blocks.

817
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: He's started going through a laundry list of guys that

818
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: have rushed for one thousand yards in Josh Heipel's offense.

819
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I'll see that.

820
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: Man. Maybe I'm a little too concerned about the Also

821
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: Dylan Sampson here. Now the offensive line stuff, I have

822
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: no counter for it. You can't offset it. You can't

823
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: tell me five stars are coming in. It doesn't matter.

824
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: Now this offense can get around it a little bit.

825
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: They can escape a little bit of the physicality they

826
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 2: had last year. But I had Tennessee probably five times

827
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: the last two years. There was one guy that consistently

828
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: was mentioned, we can't lose because we don't have another one.

829
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: We cannot lose that guy. And it was not Nico.

830
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: It was Cooper Mays was the guy they kept coming

831
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: back to and said, if we lose him, don't know. Yeah,

832
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: And I got that answer from a couple guys. Honestly, man,

833
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: don't know, don't know what we're gonna do. We don't

834
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: have another guy like him in big games that can

835
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: handle everything up there the way that he does. Now.

836
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: Javon Tess Braggins, he's gonna give you two three penalties

837
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: a game. But he also brought an edge. He brought

838
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: some extra fire, some extra intensity that I think was infectious.

839
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: And John Campbell was literally taking Virginia defenders into the

840
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: tunnel in Nashville. You don't have a bunch of those

841
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: guys coming back. The lance head might be great, but

842
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: you need some others and they need some continuity to

843
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: go along with a new quarterback. So there's gonna be

844
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: bumps in the road, But that d line's still good,

845
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: the linebacking course still good. They might have the best

846
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: corner in college football. You've got a couple of safeties back.

847
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 2: Tim Banks is going to do a good job with

848
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: the defense. They're going to be solid, dominant, maybe not,

849
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: but solid, And if some of the other parts of

850
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 2: that offense get going, it's not gonna be this completely

851
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: fall off the tich like some people think Tennessee's gonna suffer.

852
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 3: So we'll wrap up here with just kind of kind

853
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: of a generic fifty thousand foot view.

854
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: I want to again, no one's talking about Missouri.

855
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: Well, I was about to bring them up.

856
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: I want to caution people, here's what's impossible to happen.

857
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: What's impossible to happen is everyone who is expected to

858
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 3: take the next step takes the next step. And there

859
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: are an alarming number of teams in this league right

860
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: now that did kind of okay to pretty good last year,

861
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 3: and their fan base is mentality collectively is all right.

862
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: As long as we do what we're supposed to do

863
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: this upcoming year, it's okay, but if you don't do

864
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: what you're supposed to do, goodwill evaporates so quickly and

865
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: you go from like not even being in the periphery

866
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: of hot seat talk to some really crazy, like uncomfortable conversation.

867
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: Missouri is one of those teams that's supposed to just

868
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: keep progressing. South Carolina is one of those teams that

869
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: just supposed to keep progressing. Kirby and Georgia are supposed

870
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 3: to be right back there. Caitlyn de Boorn Alabama one year. Okay,

871
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: you're good. You're supposed to be there, Ryan Kelly and

872
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: Lsu are supposed to be there. Napier and Florida are

873
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 3: supposed to, Okay, we dip never on our way up.

874
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: We're supposed to just we're gonna We're gonna continue that trajectory.

875
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: And you do the math, and everyone's got to play

876
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 3: everyone to a certain extent, and the wins aren't there

877
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: for everyone, And so I keep coming back to have

878
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 3: we properly calibrated to understand what the modern college football

879
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: landscape is and what the modern landscape of the SEC is.

880
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: My answer is an unequivocal no, which means there is

881
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 3: a seven and five floating out there for a team

882
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: that was pretty good. It's just whoever gets banged up,

883
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: who is whoever is on the minus two side of

884
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: the one possession game statistic, or.

885
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: As you stated earlier, who suffers an injury and all

886
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the next guy's better and no one

887
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: knew about it. Next thing you know, he's dynamic playmaker

888
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 2: that changes the game for that team. So I agree.

889
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: I just I'm starting to go back and look at

890
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: personnel for some of these situations that you're referencing. Let's

891
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: start with Missouri Bretton Fleet at tight end. Nobody knows

892
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 2: who he is. That's fine, he's the best blocking tight

893
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: end in the SEC for maybe college football. Ahmad Hardy,

894
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: you don't know who he is because he played at

895
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: ULM last year, but you know who was offense. He

896
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: played in Bryant Vincent their bread and butter play stretch zone.

897
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: What did Drink do last year? He went and got

898
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: Nate Noel from app who had run seven thousand reps

899
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: in stretch zone, so he knew exactly how to do

900
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: it and how it operated. Well, Amon Hardy knows how

901
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: to do it, so he's gonna come in for Kirby

902
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: Moore and know exactly how it works. You get Connor

903
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: Thomson back at center, very deep year at center. This year,

904
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: Caden Green's back on the offensive line. There's not another

905
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: armand membu and receiver won't be the same. The big

906
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: question marks Perbula. I don't know. I don't know what

907
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: to tell people that they're getting. I'm anxious to hear

908
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 2: from Eli about it because I don't know exactly what

909
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: he's gonna look like. But I also know two years

910
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: ago they went and got a transferre d lineman from

911
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 2: Florida that's played pretty good reps. They got another from

912
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: Missouri's played pretty good reps. And they got a safety

913
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: that will named Dion Burks. Again, you don't know who

914
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: he is, but maybe you will now who is ways

915
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: less than you do and will literally come down and

916
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: try to hit Andre the Giant if he's carrying the football.

917
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: He does not care. He will try to crush everybody

918
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: at any point in time. My point is they have guys,

919
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: but we treat Missouri like, well, yeah they had Luther

920
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: Burdon last year. Yeah, Luthor Burton had one amazing fourth

921
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: down catch last year. How many games did he win

922
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: for him. Now he may have opened some things up

923
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: for some other guys, and Nate Noel was great, but

924
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: they still have guys South Carolina. I understand all those

925
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: D tackles they lost. I know Kyle Kinard's gone, but

926
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: you look at like Brian Thomas on one side, Monk

927
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: kill Goodwine is gonna be back inside. You got another

928
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: D tackle who is here that red shirted last year.

929
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Speaker 3: So they are replacing those guys with other guys like

930
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: they're gonna put eleven out there.

931
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Speaker 2: They're not putting quarterbacks there either.

932
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: Huh.

933
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: You look in the secondary like Judge Collier, Jalen Kilgore,

934
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 2: d Q Smith. They've all been there for like four years.

935
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 2: We've played in this defense. And then you go get

936
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: Sean Murphy who Alabama signed as a linebacker out of college,

937
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: out of high school. You know he's got talent. He's

938
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: probably more talented and Demetrius Knight. That means's gonna be

939
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: the player Demetrius Night was. Once again, they have guys

940
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: who has done more in the portal with less than

941
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: Shane Biemer.

942
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: Nobody actually I mean nobody.

943
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 2: Mario Anderson, nit Guard, Julo, Demetrius Knight, we just mentioned.

944
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: You can make it. You can make an argument that

945
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: last year they're tight end was their MVP of their

946
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: football team. They get it from Western Kentucky two years ago.

947
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 2: Nobody mentions him. So there's gonna be one, two, three

948
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: guys that are heavy contributors and good football players for

949
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: South Carolina out of the portal that we're just not

950
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: talking about. So this hole, like these teams don't have

951
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: guys anymore. I'm I'm a little lost in that narrative.

952
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: They might not be the talent that other teams have,

953
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: but there will be guys who have played and been there,

954
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: and that might mean more than some of what we're

955
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: talking about with some of these other fine star guys

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Speaker 2: at other places.

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Speaker 1: Hey, good luck with date night podcasts and whatever else

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