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Speaker 1: here we go on a Sunday, Buffalo thirty Kansas City

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Speaker 1: twenty one in the epic best rivalry in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, former NFL scout with the Philadelphia Eagles, is

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Speaker 1: joining us. So I'll start with this, and I've said

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Speaker 1: this for the last couple of weeks. This team's the

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Speaker 1: best equipped to beat Kansas City. First of all, they

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Speaker 1: have their best running game with James Cook, best running

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Speaker 1: back they've had. I think they have an interesting group

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Speaker 1: of receivers, and they now have two tight ends, although

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Speaker 1: Kincaid banged up, but you know, Amari Cooper made several

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Speaker 1: nice plays today. They've got the slot guy. We know

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Speaker 1: they're going to be well coached defensively because of Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 1: And as I watched this game, I thought Kansas City

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Speaker 1: would win because they were so much talk of injuries

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo receivers, but you know, most of them showed

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Speaker 1: up and played. And my take is we all kind

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Speaker 1: of knew Buffalo was gonna win one of these games.

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Speaker 1: And I think this Buffalo team at home. This was

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Speaker 1: I kind of felt like this team can beat anybody,

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Speaker 1: including kse.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I think we talked about the Chiefs owning them

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Speaker 2: because they beat them in the playoffs last year and

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Speaker 2: then a couple of years ago in that thirteen second game.

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Speaker 2: The Bills have now beat him three straight regular seasons.

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Speaker 2: Now two of those, I think back to back years

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Speaker 2: So it's like they play well against them, Like, there's

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Speaker 2: no disputing I'm sure we'll get into Lamar later. Lamar

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Speaker 2: against the Chiefs looked like a different player. Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: has played really really well against the Chiefs. Yeah, regular

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Speaker 2: season and in the playoffs. I mean today, is this

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Speaker 2: game really as closed if he doesn't make that disastrous

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Speaker 2: decision on that fourth down where he just threw that

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Speaker 2: which they struggle to score. I mean, so he doesn't

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Speaker 2: turn it over right there, Let's say they kick a

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Speaker 2: field goal. I mean, do they have twenty one points

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: a team that struggles to score points, yes, right, I

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Speaker 2: mean it's a problem now, you know, playoff games look

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Speaker 2: like this, and they were nine to zero, you know,

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Speaker 2: in their margin for victory. And a lot of these

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Speaker 2: games are coming down the But that's how a lot

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Speaker 2: of playoff games they're gonna be very equipped and because

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Speaker 2: they're coaching, because they're quarterback. But listen, like Buffalo and

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Speaker 2: maybe it's Pittsburgh now more than the Ravens, like these

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Speaker 2: games like it's there for the taking. Yes, it is

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Speaker 2: wide open. Can't we say that it's wide open in

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Speaker 2: the AFC? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, it's funny watching when I

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Speaker 1: look at Josh Allen, just take I mean, nobody thinks

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Speaker 1: Brady was the most talented quarterback. We all know Marino

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Speaker 1: was more talented. Tom gets some you know, seven rings,

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Speaker 1: Reno gets none. And Dan had a great coach in

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Speaker 1: Don Shula. So we know that winning Super Bowls is

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Speaker 1: not just on talent. But if you're asking me the

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Speaker 1: most talented quarterback I've ever seen that last touchdown round

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Speaker 1: by Josh Allen, there's not three four quarterbacks ever. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Steve Young makes that. You know, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Mahomes can run over two defenders at the goal line.

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Speaker 1: Josh is about size, arm Ad libbing pocket. With Lamar,

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Speaker 1: he loses in the playoffs and we're like he's a

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Speaker 1: different quarterback. We don't say that. With Josh. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he threw for four hundred yards and came up short.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching him today. He had one really terrible throw.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes had a bad pick early. It's like there's just

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess Marino, John Elway, Josh Allen. It's

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Speaker 1: a really I mean, Montana and Brady have the rings.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're the most talented quarterbacks, had two

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Speaker 1: of the best coaches. I think Josh is the MVP.

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Speaker 1: There's just nothing like I can't he doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: Well, think about this of the Internet era. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Brady's the best quarterback of all time and Peyton is

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Speaker 2: was Aaron Rodgers right right, But he wouldn't rank ahead

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Speaker 2: and I think Josh Allen has entered into that because

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Speaker 2: part of like the way we talk, they also checked

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Speaker 2: all the boxes right work ethic, leader of the team,

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Speaker 2: teammates loved him. Monday through Saturday, was fantastic. I said

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Speaker 2: I think he's the second best quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And obviously a lot of people come at you like, well,

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Speaker 2: Lamar's havn't because he's having a better season up until

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Speaker 2: the day than he was last year when he won

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Speaker 2: the MVP. Well part of it last year was an

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Speaker 2: awful MVP class. And listen, Lamar's also, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: one of the greatest quarterbacks I've ever seen. So but

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Speaker 2: the one thing that that he still leaves to be

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Speaker 2: brightest those first couple of weeks. Well, I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you look at it, and that is not a question

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Speaker 2: with Josh, He's been dominant in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: If you look at a time Lamar against Kansas City

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, he's bad. His passer writing's like sixty six.

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Speaker 1: Josh is never bad. I mean, he'll have a bad Sunday.

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Speaker 1: But I kind of looked at this game and it

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Speaker 1: goes to show and we know this in the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl last several years, defense as good as Spag's defense is.

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Speaker 1: When Josh Allen is running out in the end and

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Speaker 1: running over guys, it just doesn't matter what the scheme is.

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Speaker 1: The great ones and Josh is an all timer. Elway

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Speaker 1: played some of the best defenses, the great defensive coordinators.

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Speaker 1: You know, you couldn't stop Kobe or mj or Lebron

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Speaker 1: he's sort of he's a scheme buster. If he's in,

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Speaker 1: if he's got the right components, there's not much you

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Speaker 2: He's Cam Newton as a runner because of his power

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Speaker 2: in his size, but he's such a dominant passer. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think he has a chance. I mean, he's got

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Speaker 2: a long runway the rest of his career to go

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Speaker 2: down as one of the better players of all time.

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Speaker 2: Now you get to fine, you know, in football, like

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Speaker 2: in most pro sports, how you do in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: and you know it's not he hasn't lost them games.

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Speaker 2: I mean their defense has obviously let them down in

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Speaker 2: some playoff games, but the pretty good opportunity this year. Right,

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Speaker 2: like the Pittsburgh Steelers aren't scoring many touchdowns. The Ravens

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Speaker 2: have a lot of flaws. They just beat the Chiefs. Now,

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Speaker 2: home field advantage is very, very big for Buffalo. I

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Speaker 2: Now the Chiefs get the Panthers next week, so they

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Speaker 2: still have a one game cushion on the Bills. But

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Speaker 2: think about this, you know you live back in the Northeast.

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Speaker 2: For a lot of the Brady era, the Bills, I

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Speaker 2: would say, at the Internet age before Josh got there

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Speaker 2: were mainly a joke. Yeah, I mean they were really,

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Speaker 2: like Mahalves is one of the greatest players I've ever

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Speaker 2: seen any sport. I'm not diminishing anything he's done. But

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Speaker 2: he did take over a team that was winning ten

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Speaker 2: to eleven games. He just took them to thirteen fourteen

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowls. Right he Josh Allen arrived, This team

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Speaker 2: was a joke. You know, it was an embarrassment. So

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Speaker 2: was you know, you get more credit. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: like just as an individual in a vacuum, Like, that's

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Speaker 2: really really impressive what he's done. Same with Sea Dermott

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Speaker 2: elevating this franchise because they're like obviously the Chiefs have

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Speaker 2: had are much more accomplished. But in terms of rest

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Speaker 2: Bill's success. They are dominating, They're shoeing for their division

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Speaker 2: every year, and honestly they're coin flipped of like are

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Speaker 2: they going to be the one or two seed every year?

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Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, I mean, and what if Allen gets drafted

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Speaker 1: by the Chiefs and Mahomes goes to the Bills. You know,

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Speaker 1: A prime example this year, and we'll get to this

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Speaker 1: later is bo Knicks. Bo Nix has tearn it up.

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Speaker 1: Bow Knicks now has four games completing over seventy percent

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Speaker 1: no picks, two touchdowns. That's tied for the greatest rookie

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Speaker 1: season accomplishment ever. Well, a huge component to that, about

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent of that is Sean Payton. I mean

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Speaker 1: I will say this, I don't think anybody holds it

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Speaker 1: and I really do. I think Sean McDermott I've compared him.

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Speaker 1: You may not remember this much. Chuck Knox, who was

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Speaker 1: great everywhere he was at. He was great in Seattle, Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: your organization, John, and he is like Marty Schottenheimer. He

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Speaker 1: schemed by a great offensive coach. It can be a

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Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, whoever it is, And I kind of feel

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Speaker 1: McDermott is his generations Chuck Knox, great coach, attention to detail,

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Speaker 1: tough teams are resilient always in the big games. But

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Speaker 1: little conservative in the postseason. And I think that's a

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Speaker 1: fair criticism of McDermott. But I'll defend him forever. He's

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Speaker 1: a hell of a coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I've known him since I worked for the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: You know he's a tightly wound Yeah, very disciplined individual.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: I bet if you looked at his breakfast and lunch

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Speaker 2: orders for the last fifteen years, they have probably been

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Speaker 2: very similar. But Nick Sabans had the same breakfast for

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Speaker 2: twenty five years. I mean, these guys, they're very militaristic

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Speaker 2: with their actions. I do think Sean looks like he's

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Speaker 2: that is paid dividends of the Dorsey Joe Brady thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the AFC like this Chiefs team.

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Speaker 2: Now they do get Putchaco back, which is gonna help.

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Speaker 2: But Kareem Hunt's been good for them. Yeah, just offensively.

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Speaker 2: The Worthy is one hundred and seventy pound rookie, like

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be a lot better in a year or

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Speaker 2: two than he is now. And Travis, let's face it,

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Speaker 2: like the guy that we saw in those playoffs last year,

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Speaker 2: maybe he doesn't. And I think health. If the Bills

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Speaker 1: How about this, they have good pass rushers. So Brady

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Speaker 1: Okay, this game is fascinating. Pittsburgh eighteen Baltimore sixteen. So Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Russell had a terrible pick in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: I was at the game they played him at you

427
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: know that soccer stadium and lost. Then they played him

428
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Speaker 1: the second time in the playoffs and one, and he

429
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 1: just said he's so much faster in person than he

430
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 1: is on film, Like you can't your players, you play

431
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Speaker 1: him and then you're like, okay, okay, we really can't

432
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,719
Speaker 1: get away with that. We wondered if we could. So

433
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Speaker 1: it's like, listen, Pittsburgh has his number.

434
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Speaker 2: Well, I would say over the last couple of years,

435
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 2: going back to last year, most teams a step on

436
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 2: the field with Baltimore are inferior, and there's an intimidation factor. Yes,

437
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: and there are definitely two teams. I mean, I mean

438
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 2: that game today had a couple of moments where you

439
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: thought you were gonna get like a nineties throwback, like

440
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: the brawl on the field, which was it was refreshing. Yeah,

441
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 2: I mean, it was like these teams, you know in

442
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: a day and age where everyone's buddies, they all go

443
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 2: on each other's podcast. You're like, this just feels like

444
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: the NFL I grew up on, where it's like this,

445
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: these two teams hate each other. Pittsburgh is not intimidated

446
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 2: by him at all. Like you said, they understand his speed.

447
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: They also like do a pretty good job of corralling him.

448
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: I mean, their teams speed is fantastic. TJ. Watson dominant player.

449
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: I just think for whatever reason, there is just not

450
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna you're you're gonna roll us. And I think

451
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 2: the Bills have that against Kansas City, where there's an

452
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Speaker 2: intimidation factor of the moment you start warming up and

453
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Speaker 2: you see the other color jersey, you know.

454
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Speaker 1: And I really noticed it when Baltimore went for two.

455
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: So Lamar Jackson going for two is like feels about

456
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: his I mean, honestly, it's it's about as safe a

457
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: bet in the league for two.

458
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Speaker 2: And they run that play a lot where he starts

459
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Speaker 2: running and he gets in easily. I've seen it ten times.

460
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: It's insane, and I'm thinking, but Pittsburgh has seen it

461
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: so many times. When the ball was snapped that you

462
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: could have run a dive play. They didn't care. They

463
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: had nine of their eleven players on the edge. They're like,

464
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: we know in lateral, we know what you're gonna Donna,

465
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Speaker 1: You're gonna go You're not gonna go at us, You're

466
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: gonna go to the side and I thought that two

467
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: point conversion. I'm like because I kept thinking, oh boy,

468
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: they don't even buy the fake. They don't even care

469
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Speaker 1: about the fullback on the field. They know it's Lamar

470
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Speaker 1: on the edges.

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Speaker 2: One concerning thing for Pittsburgh, who obviously is right there

472
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Speaker 2: with Buffalo. I mean, the record's fantastic. What are they

473
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 2: eight and two after a day? So you got two

474
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: eight and two teams and nine to one team and

475
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: that loss to the Raiders now for Baltimore is a

476
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: pretty big swing loss because now they got four losses.

477
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: When they throw the ball outside the numbers and he

478
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: throws the deep, he's good at it right. Russell's comfortable

479
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: thrown to Pickens. I would say any rollout to they

480
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: have a good connection. But when there has to be

481
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Speaker 2: something a little more quick hitting, he held the ball

482
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: a couple times and he got sacked. It's like it's

483
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: kind of a feast for famine, and against the Ravens,

484
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: it's harder to just I think Najee Harris has really

485
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: resurrected his career. I think he looks a lot better

486
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: this season than he has most of his career. Jalen

487
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: Warren's a good player, but you're not just gonna gash

488
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Speaker 2: them for one hundred and fifty yards because I mean,

489
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: they were I think they are the best statistical run

490
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: defense coming in the league, or definitely, I mean this

491
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Speaker 2: this week. One of them is you know, Russell can

492
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 2: be had if you can just neutralize their deep passing

493
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 2: game because he's he will hold on to the ball.

494
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Speaker 2: And a couple of times he had some bad sacks

495
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 2: where I thought, bro, you got to get rid of this,

496
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: and it could have cost him. But they were lucky.

497
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: The Ravens just had noe. The Ravens looked off they've had.

498
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: It's weird because when you watch them, when they're right

499
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: on offense, it looks like one of the greatest offenses

500
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: you've ever seen. But in some of these games, it's

501
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: just like they got a little like Lsu Brian Kelly

502
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: thing going on. You're like, things are just a little

503
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: out of whack. Yeah, it's like a ton of good players.

504
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: I'd want ninety percent of their roster, But you watch

505
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: them today, You're like, and maybe it's Pittsburgh. I've seen

506
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: him play inferior teams with being off It's weird.

507
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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. Let's I want to go back

508
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: to the thing you said about Russell Wilson that that

509
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: was the knock that I think Sean Payton really had

510
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: on Russell is that Sean would diagram plays that were

511
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: over the middle and Russell would hold it and there

512
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: would be a sack, and Sean in the offensive line

513
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: would be blamed. This was a knock Pete sack four

514
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Speaker 1: times a day. Yeah, And that was a knock Pete

515
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 1: Carolyn john Snyder had is that people kept banging on

516
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: the Seahawks offensive line and Pete privately, I was told

517
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: this for a couple of years, like, hey, those are

518
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: those balls are being schemed up, those plays are open.

519
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: That's been the knock on Russell Wilson is that he's

520
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: very successful deep ball, the lollipop, the rainbow. He's very

521
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Speaker 1: good rolling, and he's not a guy that turns the

522
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Speaker 1: ball over much. Some of that's it's a little Aaron

523
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Speaker 1: Rodgers in his prime. He'd rather take a hit or

524
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: a throwaway, throw a pick. So that's not the worst thing.

525
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: But when you say that that has been the knock

526
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Speaker 1: on him, I know through Sean Payton was he holds

527
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Speaker 1: the ball, those are diagram and I think we have

528
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: to be honest about this. Sometimes it's a hype thing.

529
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: It is he just you know, left tackle six or seven.

530
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Speaker 2: I feel like most of Purdy's interceptions are a large

531
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Speaker 2: percentage of them are tip balls. And when you're shorter,

532
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: I mean sometimes Caleb, what did he do better today?

533
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: Get on the move, get outside when you're not six

534
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: foot three, it's just basic math. How are you seeing

535
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: over guys that are six foot five? The thing with Russell, like,

536
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: I think we have to acknowledge. Now Pittsburgh's eight and two,

537
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 2: I would say high percentage they're gonna win the division.

538
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: And now it's gonna be like, hey, can they take

539
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 2: on Kansas City and Buffalo and well, both those two

540
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 2: teams have good pass rushes, so can they? And obviously

541
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: Spagnola and McDermott are to the top defensive guys. If

542
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: they can neutralize some of those lollipop throws, can Russell

543
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 2: pick them apart? Because especially Kansas City, it's gonna be

544
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: hard to run it on them. You're not just gonna

545
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: be able to probably run for one hundred and forty

546
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: yards in a playoff game. You know you play today

547
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 2: like that score? I mean all they kicked the fuel goals.

548
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: They didn't score a touchdown? Right, So could you beat

549
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo because that's where now Pittsburgh separated of Like you're

550
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: eight and two? Can you beat those teams? I would

551
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: still have reservation? Yes, Now could Your defense would just

552
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: have to have one of those games where they pick

553
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: Allen or pick a yes, two or three times, maybe

554
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: a strip sack. But I don't know if that offense

555
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: that we witnessed today can beat those two teams without

556
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: being a little more like you said, I mean explosive

557
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: over the middle of the field, which is not his thing.

558
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: He doesn't do it. It's not his style of offense.

559
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: All right, Let's move to Packers blocking a kick to

560
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: win out played by the Bears twenty to nineteen. Packers

561
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: beat the Bears. They've now won eleven straight for Chicago.

562
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: Part of that is good. Good franchises win games they shouldn't.

563
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: Bad franchises lose games they should win. The Bears dominate

564
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: time of possession thirty six minutes to twenty three. They're

565
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: great on third down. Caleb Williams nine rushes twenty three

566
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: to thirty one, played pretty well, one hundred and eighty

567
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: yards rushing and they lost. My takeaway in this game though,

568
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: even though they lost and there were those that defended

569
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: Shane Waldron, two things the Bear just did today that

570
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: they didn't do with Shane Waldron. They got the ball

571
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: out really quick, and they got Caleb layups. They schemed layups.

572
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: I've said this, Sean Payton does this to bow Nicks.

573
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: He gets seven completions to ten completions a Sunday that

574
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: are just let's get him going okay, and then and

575
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: then bowl will complete another eighteen or sixteen. But he

576
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: gets some ten, he gets some easy rollout stuff. They

577
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: were not doing this. I mean, you and I were

578
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: banging on this for a month. I thought the Bears

579
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: quick layups, get a rhythm. I thought they did a

580
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: really good job forget the score for a second in

581
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: the outcome. I did think Chicago's offense looked a little dynamic.

582
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: It looked like, oh, that's how you should play a

583
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: young quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought it was a big, big

585
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: step forward for Caleb. Yeah. Was had one of the

586
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: shittier three week stretches you're gonna see. Listen, you should

587
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: throw a quick screen to Dj Moore minimum on once

588
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: a quarter down and they started doing that. It's like, yeah,

589
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: novel concept. Yeah, you know, a guy that can break tackles,

590
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: is physical, you know, getting a guy on the move.

591
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: What were they saying basketball? Right when your shots not falling,

592
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: get to the rim, get foul, get some easy stuff,

593
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: get some get a layup, or get get some free

594
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: throws to get your rhythm back, and you get him

595
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: some easy layups. What did that bring out? That brought

596
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: out the kleb that everyone had the hype on, because

597
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: the guy we have seen the last couple of weeks,

598
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: it's like, where's his confidence? Why is he just sitting

599
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: in the pocket? Become a playmaker? And today I wrote

600
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: down this. He started making plays. Yeah, with his legs,

601
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: not even just running, but running to throw, which is

602
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: a huge element of his game. He's not He's never

603
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: gonna sit in the pocket like Jared Goff or Peyton

604
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: Manning or Philip rip That's not gonna be his game.

605
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: His game is going to be playmaking on the move

606
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: using his arm. And whatever they did, they look dramatically better.

607
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: I mean they he looked like a player. I mean

608
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: I was starting to get a little worried. Same say

609
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: and sometimes in football, clearly coaching whatever they were telling him,

610
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: whether they were just like getting in his head and

611
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: he was playing almost too conservative because that's what it

612
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: felt like, and it started snowballing the wrong way. You went, oh,

613
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: I see you watch him and Jordan Love on the

614
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: same field at the same time, Like, Okay, this guy

615
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: can be a really good player. I don't know the

616
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: hype ever be like the top player in the league,

617
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: but like, this guy could be a top ten quarterback. Yeah, right,

618
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: but his style is going to be specific to moving

619
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: around and if you just ask him three to five

620
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: step drop in the pocket all day long, it's not

621
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: gonna be his style of offense. And today, honestly it's

622
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: you're firing your coach, like you're not making the playoffs anyway,

623
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: I would say at the end of the day, like

624
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: that sucks to be a Bears fan. That individual moment,

625
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: but big picture in a couple of years, help your

626
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: draft pick. I mean, it's what was this actually going

627
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: to do if you want to lose? It was obviously

628
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: a huge moment for the Packers. I mean, that's a

629
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: huge swing game, but it's not the end of the

630
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: world that you got the field goal block.

631
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: It's interesting off of By now, the Packers averaged almost,

632
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, eight and a half yards play, so they're

633
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: an explosive offense, no question. But it is pretty clear.

634
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: You watch Buffalo in Kansas City, you watch Detroit. I

635
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: no longer classify San Francisco. We'll get to this in

636
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: a minute or two. But I mean there are three

637
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: or three teams in this league that just are different.

638
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: And I think Buffalo, Kansas City, and Detroit right now

639
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: they just look different than everybody else. Baltimore can, but

640
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: in big spots they don't live up to it. But

641
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: I think Green Bay feels like they're a year away.

642
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: They're still young, you know. I like Jordan Love a lot.

643
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: He was thirteen to seventeen touchdown pick off of Bye.

644
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: He was Okay, I think you're gonna my take on

645
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: Jordan Love. He's always been more far than Rogers. He's

646
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: just more reckless. He is also more dynamic. But I

647
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: think you're going to have to live with someone. Jordan

648
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: loves mistakes because he's becoming what he was in college.

649
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: If you just watched two minutes of his best on YouTube,

650
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: you're like, this is one of the best players I've

651
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: ever seen. But when I look at Jordan Love, I'm

652
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: like he he goes off script a lot, and I

653
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: think Matt Lafleur allows it and knows what he has.

654
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: But I think, as a Packer fan, like FARV. He's

655
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: not FARV obviously, but he has some FARV. There's some

656
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: FARV in him, and I understand why they picked him.

657
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: They moved up, they liked him. But when I watch him,

658
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: do you ever feel with him he's going to drive

659
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: Packer fans crazy?

660
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean he had an awful pick today where

661
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: it sailed on him in the red zone. Yes, bad, bad,

662
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: you know Rogers. For most of his career with McCarthy,

663
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: one knock was always like the run game sucked and

664
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: beside like a little moment with Eddie Lacy, they did

665
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: not have a great running game for most of his prime.

666
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: But it didn't matter, right, I mean, he was rattling

667
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 2: off MVPs. This guy's going to be more dependent on

668
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: a back, partly because it just helps any young quarterback

669
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: and partly because it takes a little prey off, like

670
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: we don't really want you throwing it forty times in

671
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: all these games because you are liable to make a miss. Yes,

672
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: where Aaron Rodgers could just turn in like I can.

673
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: I'll throw it forty seven times a day and I

674
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: won't DV won't touch a ball that will never be

675
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: this player. But they're wide receiver room. I mean, when

676
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: Watson's hamstring's healthy, how good is that guy? You know?

677
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: The Tucker's good, I mean they are. I thought, for

678
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: the most part, he's pretty good today, like I thought

679
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: you had a pretty same He's also just been banged up,

680
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: and maybe that's just going to be something that follows

681
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: his career.

682
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: The way he plays, That's what I thought. When I

683
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: watched the game plan today. I thought Chicago came out aggressive, smart,

684
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: Caleb quick, get rid of the ball. I really was

685
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: watching them Bears all day. I thought the Bears are

686
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: the better team almost most of the day. I do

687
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: think there's something to be said about the Chiefs. A

688
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago against Denver, the Packers blocking the kick.

689
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: This is what coaching and execution do. You see these

690
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: little moments in games, and I think that's coaching and execution.

691
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: It's not luck. But I felt with Green Bay watching

692
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: him today, it was Chicago's it was it was really

693
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: an urgent performance needed by Chicago. I mean, like you said,

694
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: it was kind of like man overboard. If they came

695
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: out and looked like shit today, you'd be like, we

696
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: got real problems. And I thought, and you could sense

697
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 1: that in the game. You to me. When I watched

698
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: the game, I felt there was a sense of absolute

699
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: urgency by Chicago.

700
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I think, you know, you get to

701
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: this level. It's a public job, but I think any

702
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: human can relate, Like when your back's really against the wall, Yeah,

703
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: you really got two options. You can either fold and

704
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: melt or kind of just drop your nuts and you know,

705
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: start swinging back. And that's I honestly that's what they

706
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: did today. Because I would say this week people started

707
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: questioning literally everything before I was like, oh, the coaching,

708
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: It's like, well, do you guys think Caleb sucks your defense?

709
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: You guys just quit? Hey, wide receivers, are you just

710
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: over it? And it's this game. You know, if this

711
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: was in Green Bay, I would have a little more

712
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: I was. I understand they're coming off a bye, but

713
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 2: this is on a road game in Chicago. They're basically

714
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: fighting for their or respectability. Like they're not fighting for

715
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: the playoffs or anything. But they got a lot of

716
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: high priced guys. Yeah right, he now makes a lot.

717
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: DJ Moore makes a lot. DJ Moore start getting called

718
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: out like are you just quitting on Caleb? And to me,

719
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: I thought Dj Moore and Caleb uh just showed a

720
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: lot of like competitive fight today. I thought Caleb honestly

721
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: showed a lot of fight because I was not man

722
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: overboard on them, but I was like, I would take

723
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: Drake May, I would take j B Neck like this guy,

724
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: this guy might like got bust territory.

725
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, meantimes.

726
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe Shane Waldron just stinks.

727
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the Bears had more total yards, they were

728
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: better on third and fourth down, dominated time of possession.

729
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: So when you watch the game today, sometimes the better team,

730
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: at least on a Sunday loses, and I thought Chicago today,

731
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: my feeling was they were more aggressive, they dominate time

732
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: of possession. It's you know, we'd say this about once

733
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: a month a team loses a game and you're like

734
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: that kind of almost felt like a win big picture.

735
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: What happened. It happened to Denver last week, same scenario. Yeah,

736
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: play them, you had a feel goal to win it,

737
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: it gets blocked, but you feel good. Now. The difference

738
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: is like Denver than immediately parlayed that in the day,

739
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: Chicago this might be like this is just kind of over.

740
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: You know, Denver still had a lot to play for.

741
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: But I think if Chicago's record was just maybe a

742
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: game or two better, yeah, I think they could parlay

743
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: this into some momentum where it's like, I don't necessarily

744
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: know how I feel about them moving forward, though, I

745
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: would say if Caleb plays like this as a playmaker,

746
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: scrambling around, they become a much more potent opponent to

747
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: the Lions and the Vikings and the good teams. And

748
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: they play the forty nine ers like they're not a

749
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: lock to lose all these games. If they're going to

750
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: play like that today with the.

751
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: Offense, time to look at this weekend's Tasius matchup Sunday

752
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: Night food Ball, brought to you by Uber Eats. This

753
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: game needs to be discussed, and I swear to God,

754
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about Aaron Rodgers, but Colts

755
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: twenty eight Jets twenty seven. So Anthony Richardson came out

756
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: and again there was a time in a mayor you

757
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: could bench a quarterback and it was not a headline story.

758
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: They bench him for a couple of games. He comes back.

759
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: I thought he was very self aware. Today, twenty of

760
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: thirty Anthony Richards in two hundred and seventy two yards,

761
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: ten rushes. Again, Colts dominate time of possession. I thought

762
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: Anthony great first and at eight almost double the first

763
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: down the Jets did. So let's just start with this

764
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: before we go to Aaron Rodgers. I honestly thought you

765
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: saw a little Shane Steichen, you saw a more mature quarterback.

766
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: He made a couple of big seam throws today he

767
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: made some really nice throws and again he was benched.

768
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: It was appropriate. They gave Joe Flacco, you know, a run.

769
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: Joe looks kind of washed. But I've been saying this

770
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: for a week. I liked the Colts personnel. They're one

771
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: of those most of the time I look at a

772
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: team and I think, you know, there's something I like,

773
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: something I don't like. It's not that I don't like

774
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: Anthony Richards. And because I watched today and I thought, yeah,

775
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: he's the more dynamic of the two quarterbacks. He's the

776
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: our quarterback on the field today. There's a question of

777
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: it not even close. But my take is the benching

778
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: people freak out, but it happens. It happens in high school,

779
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: college and the pros we get very sensitive now that

780
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: we don't. But the kid is small town kid. One

781
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: starting year at Florida hurt a lot of last year.

782
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: I watched that game and I thought, well, if this

783
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: is what I get with, Anthony Richards said I could

784
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: live with that. You could wait games with that.

785
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 2: You know. I think that that moment when he tapped

786
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: his head was so polarizing, and then he made it worse.

787
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: I think with his comments after the game, and clearly

788
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: the teammates they had no choice but to Benjamin. I

789
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: did think his comments this week of saying like, this

790
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: is my job, but I have to play well or

791
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: I will get yanked again showed a little self awareness. Yes,

792
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: and there were some articles that I think they had.

793
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: You know, Kenny Moore said, this captain sat down with them, listen.

794
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: This is some humans need guidance just because they played

795
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 2: the quarterback position, not defensive line, any other position and

796
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be that weird. There were moments today. There

797
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: was a fumble caused on on a blitz by Anthony

798
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: Rigson led to a Jets touchdown that I thought it

799
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: kind of started to unravel on the on the Colts,

800
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: I would say three weeks ago. The Colts lose that

801
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 2: game and fall apart. On the game winning drive, Richardson

802
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: hits a play down the sideline. Yes, it's like he

803
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: didn't melt. That's right, And I just wonder sometimes you

804
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: get to take a deep breath the other thing, if

805
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: you get it. I don't know if you saw it,

806
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: but on the Colts posted out after in the locker

807
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: room as he's walking in all every guy in the

808
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: locker room screaming, chanting his name, screaming, framed it. So

809
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: I think there was and he and he like, no, no, no, listen.

810
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: Sometimes as a young player, it's really difficult. He made

811
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: an awful decision and he paid a price for he

812
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: was benched, and then today he came out and let's

813
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: fake it. I mean the Jets stink, Yeah, I mean

814
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: the Jets stink. But obviously he had some great moments.

815
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: He had an awesome touchdown, he had a couple, he

816
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: had some great throws, but he also had some disastrous

817
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: fumble He lost one of them. And he didn't just

818
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: melt and go into the tank. So I think from

819
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: a maturity standpoint, like there's there's no disputing there's a

820
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: ton to work with there. Like he's never gonna be

821
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: Drew Brees or Steve No, somebody is right.

822
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: No, but boy, you go you get.

823
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 2: But can he play some version of Cam Newton Josh

824
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 2: Allen just running guys over, making some big plays like yeah,

825
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: I mean he shows it when he's playing well.

826
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in the red zone. He's a handful dude.

827
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: He is a he's just a big guy.

828
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: Well because the difference like that Lamar two point play.

829
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: Lamar is not gonna run guys over. Yeah, but he's

830
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: gonna beat you with speed Anthony Richards and he gets

831
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: you one on one like Cam back in the day,

832
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: you are going backwards. Yeah, he's winning. Josh does it

833
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: all the time. Yeah. And then the other guy. You know,

834
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: one thing I wrote down today because I was like,

835
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: you know, he's not even a top fifteen quarterback. And

836
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: then I started doing I was like Aaron Rodgers not

837
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: even a top twenty five quarterback in the NFL.

838
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: Listen, because I think the only.

839
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks today did you watch you went that team, like

840
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: Will Levis. I mean, it's a short list of teams

841
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: that like, yeah, we'd take Aeron over all. Again, No,

842
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: I mean it's a very short list.

843
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: And Aaron's twenty to twenty nine, and you think, oh,

844
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: he plays pretty well, doesn't really throw the ball down

845
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: the field a lot. All it's Derek Carr. I mean

846
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: even the Saints pulled Derek Car for Taysom Hill to

847
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: be more dynamic. I mean, Aaron his winning percentage of

848
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: the Jets is twenty seven percent. Sam Donalder Sam Donald

849
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: was thirty four percent, Zach Wilson was thirty six percent. So,

850
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: because I've been so critical of Aaron through the years,

851
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: anytime I said this a month ago, I said, guys,

852
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: not the coaching. Slaw is your best coach. This is

853
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: a big mistake. It's not the coaching, it's not the

854
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: young players. DeVante Adams is not worth half a point.

855
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I I farv was eight and three with

856
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: the Jets left and had one of the great years.

857
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: Remember he was like thirty three touchdowns, eight picks or

858
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: something in Minnesota. Insane, incredible, one of the best years.

859
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a bad He's a bad interception across

860
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: his body from them going.

861
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: To superaw Aaron's three and eight and looks like an

862
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: old man. And we look at Farb's tenure in New

863
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: York and thinks what a shit show. No No. I

864
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: talked to Eric Mangini about this. Like Brett was eight

865
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: and three, he brought a huge energy to New York

866
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: and had a lot left in the tank. Aaron has

867
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: never been known as the hardest worker in the off season.

868
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: He just hasn't been. He has a little like a

869
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: little like Cam and that he was given God given

870
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: talent and wasn't known as a grinder. You know. I mean,

871
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: like Cam would joke that he sat and ate pretzels

872
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: during film movies. I put on twenty five pound pretzel. Wait,

873
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: Aaron doesn't do that. But Aaron is not a grinder

874
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: in the off season. And you know, I was thinking

875
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: about this today. I wrote it down. John. You can

876
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: tell how hard somebody works by how they age. I

877
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: don't need to see Lebron James off seasons or Kobe Bryant's.

878
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: I can see how gracefully and slowly they aged. I

879
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: can look at Big Ben and go he had fun

880
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: in the offseason. Like he had a good time. I

881
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: can look at Cam now I look at Aaron and

882
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm like John, he's aging really really fast, and I

883
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: think a lot of it is God gave him talent,

884
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: he cultivated it. He deserves credit. But you go to

885
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: that last year in Green Bay where he was off

886
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: go the year before that MVP, what was that twenty

887
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: twenty one wasn't that long ago?

888
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: There was a throw today over the middle early in

889
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: that game where Garrett Wilson was open and he threw

890
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: it way behind him. I mean, this guy was like,

891
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: you know, a Navy seal sniper in terms of accuracy,

892
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: because like Peyton Mann or Tom Brady. I guess Tom

893
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: had a good arm. But like the Peyton types, you know,

894
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, guys that Matt Rye hung their hat on accuracy,

895
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 2: Aaron was just as accurate. But he threw ten miles

896
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: an hour faster, right, so he could wait till the

897
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: last second. And now he's not accurate inside the pocket

898
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: like he once was. The movement, you know, part of

899
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: his game. I would say the last couple of years.

900
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: I guess we didn't really get a chance to see

901
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: him last year, but that last year in Greenback, he

902
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: wasn't as dynamic and his accurate accuracy didn't quite feel

903
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: as great as it was in the MVP year. And clearly,

904
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 2: you know, when you get thirty nine, thirty forty years old,

905
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be as fast as you were thirty three.

906
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: So he was never gonna be as fast. But the

907
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: Achilles thing, I don't see how we could even debate

908
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: like it is if he was a video game and

909
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: his speed before, Like if Lamar's a ten out of ten,

910
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: you know, Aaron's like a seven or an eight, you

911
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: know in his heyday. Yeah, he's like a three right now. Yeah,

912
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 2: he can't move, but his whole game his like Jared

913
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: Goff can't run. Let's use Cousins a good example. I

914
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 2: know they had a shitty game today. Cousins kind of

915
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: unfazed by the Achilles because he never left a two

916
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: or three yard radius. Yeah, Aaron Rodd half of his

917
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: game was at any moment's notice, I'll take off, keep

918
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: a play alive that is dead. And clearly his accuracy

919
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, maybe he's just aged, like you said,

920
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: Drew Brees and Roethlisberger felt like those guys started losing

921
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 2: his arm. I still feel like Rogers is pretty good power,

922
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: but I don't think he knows where it's going as much.

923
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: And maybe that gets back to fundamentals. Well, what is

924
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: the thing that Brady All the guys had to dominate

925
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: Cousins Jared Goff, They had to be great at fundamentals

926
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: because they couldn't move. And Rogers' fundamentals never really matters.

927
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: Why he threw off his back of his foot most

928
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: of his career, but he was so accurate. Well now

929
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: the back of the foot. He's not accurate when his

930
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: feet are planted, let alone kind of freelancing inside the bunk.

931
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 2: I just think he's just shot. He's a shot fire. Listen,

932
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson's fifty eight years old, but he's got Mike

933
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 2: Tyson vibes of like I'm watching a completely different human

934
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 2: being than I've watched in fifteen.

935
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: Well, and you never got you know, let's be honest,

936
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: you never but thereon there were some things. Somebody once

937
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: said this to me years ago, a coach in the NFL.

938
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: He's like, he's Jay Cutler, but he can play. You

939
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: never got the best locker room guy. You got kind

940
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: of a self serving guy. You never got the most

941
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: dedicated off season guy. He was always even in his

942
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: prime in Green Bay, you know, the passive, aggressive shots

943
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: on Milwaukee radio, you know, where he didn't like stuff.

944
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: So there were stuff you always dealt with with Aaron that,

945
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, Brady just swallowed it for the team. Brady

946
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: and Belichick. Stro you didn't hear anything until you saw

947
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: that documentary that Gotham Chopra did where Tom finally was.

948
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: You know, he was just where I think Giselle said,

949
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: he just wants to be respected, like Tom kept that

950
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: to himself for twenty years. Aaron. Lets you know, I

951
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: mean he once he got the big contract, so now

952
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't get the talent. Well, you never got the intangibles.

953
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott gives you intangibles, but the tangibles aren't much. Well, Aaron,

954
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: the tangibles were through the roof, but the intangibles were

955
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: never perfect.

956
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what's funny is you know, I think

957
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: he made some comments this week about coming back and

958
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 2: there are many industries that pay thirty five to forty

959
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: million dollars huh, which he's probably well aware of. They

960
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: aren't football. But he feels like a guy that you know,

961
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: if he was a PGA Tour golfer that shot under

962
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: par and now he's struggling to break ninety, Like, how

963
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: would he come back if this is what he's playing

964
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: Like he can't move, so he's a sitting duck. You know,

965
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: the organization even if they hire some new coach and

966
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: he doesn't want Rogers, It's not like Rogers has some market.

967
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: What teams even trade.

968
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: For John John If we had last year's quarterback draft class,

969
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: the Jets would move on. We don't. We have Shador Sanders,

970
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: who the Giants will probably get, and we've got cam

971
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: Ward who's a big risk because he plays a lot

972
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: of off platform and he's kind of there's a lot

973
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: of backyard stuff. I think if it's a big quarter

974
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: if you had the class that had Burrow and Herbert

975
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: and Tua and Hurts, they draft a quarterback.

976
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: But my thing is, yeah, I mean this quarterback class

977
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: is everyone in the NFL thinks.

978
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: Sustaining it's weaker by the week.

979
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: But do you think in the listen, I understands a

980
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: lot of money. He's made so much money, he's got

981
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: want to do this again, Like this is and it's hard,

982
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: Like Peyton Manning couldn't throw, and the only reason he

983
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: quit is because people wouldn't sign him. You know, Roethlisberger

984
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: and Drew Brees, they just their arms betrayed them. This

985
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: guy's lower bodies betraying. Yeah, right to me, that's and

986
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: it's just you know, you're sitting duck. What happened to

987
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: Tom that last year? He didn't want no part of

988
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: getting hit hard to blame forty five years old. You know,

989
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: Roger's forty one years old. He's gonna want to keep

990
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: getting peppered when he knows that I can't run away.

991
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: And my game's never been like, you know, one thing.

992
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: Tom and Peyton were always good as like hitting the

993
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: ground because they always had to get used to that.

994
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: Aaron's kind of uncomfortable, you know, because even now he'll

995
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 2: kind of do a scramble and he's like, oh fuck,

996
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: I can't move and this's get taken out. And every

997
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: time he starts to scramble left or right and you

998
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: see a guy turning that corner, you're like, he's gonna

999
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: get caught immediately. And it's just really discombobulating his game

1000
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: because he's never had to worry about that because he's

1001
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: always been able to get out outside the tackle box,

1002
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 2: keep it play alive and throw a strike. And now

1003
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: that's completely dead, which, of course, he's forty years old

1004
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: coming off an Achilles injury. Twenty years ago. Aaron Rodgers'

1005
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: career would have ended that night, right at thirty nine

1006
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: years old torn Achilles. Yeah, in nineteen ninety three, his

1007
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: career ends. So it's just it's a testament to like

1008
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: modern day medicine. But I don't care how good the

1009
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: doctor was in his rehab of dolphins or whatever the

1010
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: hell he was doing. He is he's not even half

1011
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: the player that he once was.

1012
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,040
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Speaker 1: insight to the Niners Seattle Gino Smith runs it in

1036
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Speaker 1: with twelve seconds left. San Francisco loses to the Seahawks

1037
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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Juwan Jennings that third quarter drive was huge.

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Speaker 1: He's such a you can tell. The players just love him,

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Speaker 1: now five and five. Arizona looks more dynamic offensively. The

1041
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: Rams look like they're much better defensively with all those

1042
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: young defensive players Seattle. I like Seattle's roster. I think

1043
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: they're a quarterback away from like being really really interesting. Well,

1044
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: I wrote this down during the game. The Niners had

1045
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: another iffy special team's day, John. They just don't feel special.

1046
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: They don't feel like Philly, Detroit. They don't feel like Baltimore,

1047
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Buffalo. They feel much closer to Houston and

1048
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: not quite as good at quarterback. I mean, I I

1049
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: that's what I wrote on my sheet twice. First hat.

1050
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: They just don't feel special.

1051
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think Colin. They don't feel like

1052
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: a playoff team. I think today the playoffs, say Cyanara,

1053
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 2: because they've lost three divisional games. They've lost, They're one

1054
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: and three. They've lost all three teams.

1055
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: John listened to this. They have the second worst scoring

1056
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: defense in the final two minutes of the second half

1057
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: in the league. And they brought Christian McCaffrey back. He's

1058
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: got no TV's in two games, so there's limit. Is

1059
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: the offensive line an issue to you.

1060
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're right tackle stinks and they're huge

1061
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: on drafting skill guys over offensive lineman. Kyle and their

1062
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 2: offensive line coach have said as much over the last

1063
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: six months. They draft for Ricky Piersoll in the first round.

1064
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: Who I like Ricky Piersoll A lot offensive linemen there

1065
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: when your offensive line. Trent Williams one of the greatest

1066
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: players of all time. Last time I checked his like

1067
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: thirty six years old. I thought today was on Kyle.

1068
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: He challenged two plays in the second half, failed on him,

1069
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: both when it was pretty clear, like yeah, let's not

1070
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: getting overturned. And then they had the ball with an

1071
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: opportunity to basically ice them out and not give the

1072
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: ball back to Seattle. Seattle is all three timeouts, so

1073
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: they run the ball, they get stuffed, call timeout second

1074
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: and nine or whatever. Okay, they went for the kill

1075
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: shot and he run Juwan Jennings looks like Terrell Owens

1076
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: meets Jerry Rice out there today, and he runs a

1077
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 2: play to ice the game to Deebo Samuel, who does

1078
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: not quite look like himself right now, looks slow, not

1079
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: even remotely close to being open, pretty airmails it over

1080
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: his head. Thank god, it might have got picked. And

1081
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 2: then they just had to punt and the obviously, Gino

1082
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: drives him right down the field. The other thing is,

1083
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: you know Kittled Today, who's having a fantastic season, He's

1084
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 2: an older player, he's banged up, can't play hamstring. Bosa,

1085
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: who's probably their best playing dealing with his hip. Pointer

1086
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: can barely stay on the field. You can see him

1087
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: grimacing like he's in a lot of pain. I mean,

1088
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: this is just a devastating, tragic event. But Tarvarius Ward's

1089
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: daughter passes away. He's gone, like they're missing a ton

1090
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: of top players. Are us on the couch with his

1091
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 2: leg up like you just can't overcome, Like you're talking,

1092
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 2: there's a lot of money worth a player. Colin and

1093
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: Kyle then has a little bit of an off day

1094
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: and it just snowballs in their division. Now, Like one

1095
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: thing you'd say about the NFC, well that's pretty competitive.

1096
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 2: You know, Seattle's your worst team and technically the Niners

1097
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: are Now that's a pretty good worst team.

1098
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I mean listen, I said, this.

1099
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: Is m screwed. It's over. They play their next two

1100
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: games with the Packers and the Bills on the road. Yeah,

1101
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: they're not going to the playoffs.

1102
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think these windows in a sport that

1103
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: has it's like a like hockey, you've got a regulated

1104
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: level of violence. Guys, older players get hurt. One of

1105
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: the things one of my big predictions this year was

1106
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: San Francisco. I felt last year peaked and they would

1107
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: you would see a slow regression, and I think you're

1108
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 1: seeing it. I don't think they're special defensively. I don't

1109
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: really blame it on brock Purty. I think I think

1110
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: if I was John Lynch, I would have attacked the

1111
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: offensive line. It was a good year for tackles, you know.

1112
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, Jim Harbaugh could have chosen,

1113
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, the receiver from LSU, Brian Thomas. He went

1114
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: Joe Alt and you can see the benefits already. Joe Alt,

1115
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: by the way, has had a tremendous rookie year pass

1116
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: blocking for the Chargers. So I think this is one

1117
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: of those It's one of those things where a lot

1118
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: of time stuff surprises us in the NFL. I think

1119
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: if you were totally honest and not a Niner guy,

1120
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: if you were you know, like what you and I

1121
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: do for a liv, you could kind of see it.

1122
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: Last year, they just felt like older players get hurt

1123
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: more often and they're out longer, and then McCaffrey comes

1124
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: back and it doesn't feel the same.

1125
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: Well, what's the difference this year? I mean last year

1126
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: and really the last couple of years. These games where

1127
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: they are dominating the other opponent statistically, they end up

1128
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: winning by fifteen to twenty points Seattle, the Rams, and

1129
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, and this year they lose them all. They

1130
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 2: lose all three games, and at the end of the

1131
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: year it's not you know, they're gonna end up eight

1132
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: ish wins, but that's the difference between being eight or

1133
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: eleven and twelve, and it's because the depth of their

1134
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: roster isn't is good. The other thing that is coming

1135
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: back to bite them a little bit, and it ultimately

1136
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: didn't impact in the last couple of years because they

1137
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: had Purdy and Jimmy g the Trey Lance trade that

1138
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: was three years worth a first round pick. Yeah, that

1139
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: was the Trey Lance pick. They used him. He gave

1140
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 2: them nothing four games and then the next two years

1141
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: of picks. So even if you're drafting thirty one, you know,

1142
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: look at all the years of Kansas City or Baltimore,

1143
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: or you trade back in the second round. You just

1144
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: add players. They added nothing because those picks disappeared, so

1145
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: their depth. Some of their older players are injured, but

1146
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: they're missing a couple of players that they would have

1147
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 2: had if they had not made that trade. That didn't

1148
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: sink them because they found pretty but I think you

1149
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: felt it this year with some of their injuries.

1150
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, as you talked about their schedule, I just looked

1151
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: it up. They have the fourth hardest remaining schedule at

1152
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: green Bay at Buffalo, Chicago, Rams at Miami Detroit at

1153
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: Cardinals and that at Arizona game. Is that's tough.

1154
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 2: There are tough this is you know, we'll see Arizona.

1155
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 2: I mean, that guy's doing an incredible job. It's like,

1156
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: who would you pick right now to win the division?

1157
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: I guess I would lean the Rams. I mean Geno,

1158
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 2: he had an awful pick. I can't I can't trust him.

1159
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: He can have drives where he looks like a top

1160
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: ten quarterback, and then he can have drives where he

1161
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: looks like you know, Will Levis Arizona. Like, I think

1162
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 2: they're overachieving so much on defense. You know the Rams.

1163
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: When Stafford plays Rio, it's like they're hard. The crazy

1164
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: part about the Rams it's coming into today. The last

1165
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: two weeks they'd only scored one offensive touchdown, and even

1166
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: to day, you're like, how they feel a little off,

1167
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: And then it switched and he threw had like I

1168
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: think four touchdowns and nine completions or something, and you're like, oh,

1169
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: they get their mojo back. Now it's the Patriots. But

1170
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: you could argue it's between those two teams because I

1171
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: think the Niners are done in Seattle, it's just hard

1172
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: to trust the quarterback, so Arizona or the Rams, And honestly,

1173
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: this might be a division where you only get one

1174
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: team in because I don't think nine and eight's getting

1175
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: you the wild card. Because Minnesota won today, the Packers

1176
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: won the day, So both those two teams are gonna

1177
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: have I would say eleven plus wins. The Lions are

1178
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: gonna win thirteen, and Atlanta's in because they won the division.

1179
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: And you know, you look at Washington schedule like they're

1180
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: probably at minimum getting to ten and the Eagles will

1181
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: probably get what twelve thirteen win team, So the NFC

1182
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: West probably only getting their division winner into the playoffs.

1183
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: If I was a betting man right now, I would

1184
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: say it's a one Playoff Division. I guess I would

1185
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: lean the Rams. But the Cardinals, shit, I mean, they're

1186
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: very tough out if the quarterback's gonna play well.

1187
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: All right. If I was going to name, let's talk

1188
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos thirty eight route the Atlanta Falcons. Kirk Cousins

1189
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: had a bad day six thirty eight to six. So

1190
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: if I was voting coach of the year, Mike Tomlin

1191
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: would win. My coach of the year. Sean Payton would

1192
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: be second. And Shawn has texted me about four times

1193
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: this year, and I'm not going to get into everything

1194
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: he said, but he text me again this week and

1195
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: he said, I'm telling you, this kid's got a much

1196
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: better arm than all the analysts, said Colin. He can

1197
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: really sling it well today. Fourth game is a rookie

1198
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 1: and this is a thin roster that's in cap hell

1199
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 1: scarce scarcity of draft picks last year. In this year,

1200
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: fourth game of seventy plus completion percentage two TD's no picks.

1201
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: That ties the greatest in the modern ear Only one

1202
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: other rookie quarterback has done that. Bow knicks today, John

1203
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: he seven yards per play Denver's offense. Again, this is

1204
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: a five win team. They're twenty eight and thirty three.

1205
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: Bow Knicks was today four touchdowns, no picks, and I

1206
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: want to go back. He outplayed Mahomes last week. Is

1207
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: that nobody is talking about bow Knicks. But if this continues,

1208
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: it will not be Jaden Daniels who appears to have

1209
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: hit a ceiling right like we've seen him now in

1210
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: the bigger games. Bow Knicks. If you look at their schedule,

1211
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: it's not easy. There was one point in the third

1212
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: quarter I looked up he was seventeen to nineteen. That's

1213
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: an NFL game, Like, what in the hell the kid is?

1214
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: He is?

1215
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: First of all, he is way more athletic than anybody

1216
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: wants to admit. And I watched his arm today because

1217
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: Shaun had texted me and said, I think his arm

1218
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: is better than people think. He made a couple of

1219
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: throws today. And by the way, Aaron Rodgers' arm got

1220
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: stronger from Cal to the NFL. It happens.

1221
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: These guys are Brady's arm got definitely got strong.

1222
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: There's no question. I watched bone next today. I'm like,

1223
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: that's not only a franchise quarterback, that's a top twelve

1224
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. Potentially for the next decade.

1225
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: I thought the best throw so far of like his

1226
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: young career was the fourth touchdown where he scrambled and

1227
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: threw it across his body and you're like, God, that

1228
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: looks like Mahomes or Afford. You're letting it rip like that.

1229
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: And this is where coaching is so key. You know

1230
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: what is what did Oregon do a lot with him?

1231
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: Run those quick screens? Well, Sean Payton got two touchdowns

1232
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: off that today in the first one hit and they

1233
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: went to the red zone. Ran it essentially, I mean

1234
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 2: it was a little different play, but essentially the same thing.

1235
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: Like that's coaching, do what he's good at. Because what

1236
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: do we talk about with Russell Wilson. Get the ball

1237
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: out of your hand fast. That's actually not an easy pass.

1238
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: You know it's in your hand off right away. Sometimes

1239
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: you don't even get to grip the laces. And I

1240
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: had a buddy text me, He's like, I put a

1241
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: decent amount on him at fourteen to one to win

1242
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: the Rookie of the Year. I'm feeling pretty good. I'm like, well,

1243
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: Caleb's out of it. And if Jayden keeps trending like

1244
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: this like this, this team's winning ten games. They still

1245
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 2: got the Raiders, that they still got the Panthers. The schedule,

1246
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: the last game is the Chiefs. Who knows, maybe the Chiefs,

1247
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 2: you know, don't need to play for that game. Maybe

1248
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: they had the one seed wrapped up. Their defense is good.

1249
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: The team's just good. I mean today was That's what

1250
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: we talked about earlier with Caleb, where you could have

1251
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: a bad loss and parlay that. But Denver, deep down,

1252
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: like unlike the Bears, they didn't think their season was over.

1253
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: Denver's like, shit, we are right there, and they came

1254
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: to day. They beat the living crap out of Atlanta

1255
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: today and listen, Atlanta's got one and done written all

1256
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: over in the playoffs. But that was if the quarterback

1257
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: is going to be a fishing like that, Because I

1258
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: was with you, I looked up and it said seventeen

1259
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: of nineteen, I'm like, this is Jared Goff two point

1260
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: zero going right now.

1261
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1262
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: But the running back, you know, if they can run

1263
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: the ball and their defense plays like this, who is

1264
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: going to want to play in the playoffs. Jim Harbaugh

1265
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 2: and Sean Payton in round one and I both of

1266
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: them are going to be on the road. You know,

1267
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Speaker 2: probably the sixth and seven seed. But you talked about

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Speaker 2: playing two coaches with good defenses on the road good luck. Yeah,

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01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: is it really shock you were recording this before the

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Speaker 2: Charger game, but Charger of playoff team?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Did you look at some of these teams like, oh, yeah,

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01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: the two coaches making a combined you know, thirty five

1274
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:22,439
Speaker 2: million dollars resurrected the franchises? No, I mean it's this league.

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01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,959
Speaker 2: Isn't that complicated? Now? Both of them, you know, Jim

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01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: got Herbert and obviously Sean picked a quarterback. I think Sean,

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Speaker 2: you know, it can rub some people around the lead way,

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01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: but he believed in the guy when let's face it,

1279
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 2: a lot of people did not a lot of scouts. Yeah,

1280
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: Dank and Dunk guys. He's thirty years old and you

1281
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: watch him, you're like, and this what Oregon people say.

1282
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: If you just take out the quick screens, watch him

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01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: move around. Like his statistics at Oregon were just pretty insane.

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Speaker 1: Also, he had multiple I think between Auburn and Oregon

1285
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: he had five different offensive coordinators. He did and so

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01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: and Shawn's demanding. I mean, Sean, I mean, remember how

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01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: much Russell Wilson and Russell's a smart guy. Remember how

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: much trouble Russell had where Shawn's like, dude, you have

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01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: to take a wristband out there. You're you're you're. Remember

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01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: that was a big bone of contention, like Russell wasn't

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01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: getting the plays off fast enough, and so like.

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Speaker 2: Well, how about two weeks ago when he snapped on

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01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 2: on bo Nicks and bo Nicks snapped back, and then

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01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: after he's like, I loved it.

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01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean, obviously Sean's system is not easy.

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01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Drew Brees comes on my show, He's on

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Speaker 1: my show tomorrow and FS one on Monday, and Shawn

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: has said, I mean Drew has said, like his it's hard,

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01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: Like Shawn's demanding, he will snap. And I don't think

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01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: a lot of these I'm just telling you without giving

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01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: up everything he said, Sean has he right after they

1302
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: drafted him, he said, we got a guy. And about

1303
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: every three weeks Seanald texted me. He did this week

1304
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: and this week he said, boy, his arm, it's really

1305
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: he is snapping stuff off.

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01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: It has to be. I mean, assuming that you know

1307
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: coach Ree, He's gonna keep coaching. I don't you know

1308
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 2: this guy loves football more than any human alive. As

1309
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: long as he's healthy, going to coach for a while.

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01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: How many times in NFL history have we seen, especially

1311
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: if they coach against each other's to say, for like

1312
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: a five year stretch, Andy Reid, Sean Payton, and Jim Harbaugh, Like,

1313
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: good luck, Mark Davis, go get him that division with

1314
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: those three guys. I mean these are I mean, Andy's

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01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 2: a first ballot Hall of Famer. I mean, I'm pretty

1316
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 2: confident if Jim Harbaugh can keep Herbert healthy and they draft,

1317
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 2: they got a decent chance to win a Super Bowl

1318
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Speaker 2: these next five years. And Denver, I mean probably gonna

1319
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: be a playoff team moving forward. I mean you're talking

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Speaker 2: about Hall of Fame coaches like great coaches. I mean,

1321
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: Harbaugh has a chance to go as like one of

1322
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 2: the true great coaches of all time. How many guys

1323
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 2: can go back and forth like that. Andy's easily established himself.

1324
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 2: I mean, when it's all said and done, like in

1325
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 2: the history of the league, is Andy a top three

1326
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 2: or four coach? Ever? Yes, I mean Sean Payton resurrected

1327
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 2: the Saints in one.

1328
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: Se they were the worst team in the league. He

1329
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: went I think he won eleven games this first year

1330
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: with them, or ten games, and he may have gotten

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01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: to a conference championship the first year and lost I.

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01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: Think one thing, and you saw you know at the

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01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: end of Shawn's run Drew Brees. Ultimately it wasn't as

1334
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: good anymore. But their defense was awesome, Harbaugh. Their defense

1335
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: is always awesome. The majority of Andy Reid's career has

1336
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 2: been Jim Johnson and Spagnola offensive coaches that placed a

1337
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 2: premium on defense. And this is why, like Kyle and

1338
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 2: McVeigh have had so much success. They're offensive guys, but

1339
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: they have no problem in spending there, investing in there,

1340
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: drafting there, because it makes your job easier. Like it's

1341
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: a lot easier to win the day when you're Sean Payton,

1342
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: even though your quarterbacks having one of the best games

1343
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: of the season, when the other team scored six points,

1344
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 2: you could have the shittiest offensive performance of the year

1345
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: and win that thing nine to six. So offensive coaches

1346
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: that place a premium on defense have always been the

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01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 2: type guy that I like.

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01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,680
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1356
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: So I want to spend some time on Mike Tyson

1357
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: and Jake Paul. So, first of all, you know, the

1358
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: production wasn't great. Obviously, it was kind of a mess.

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: Listen.

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01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: Showtime Sports did some great work. It doesn't exist. HBO

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01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: Sports did similarly great work, both led by boxing. It

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01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. Boxing is not a foundational piece to build

1363
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: in the modern era a sports department. That's why NBC

1364
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: Sports had boxing bailed. Fox Sports had some boxing bailed.

1365
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: ESPN had it bailed. It's just too quirky and weird

1366
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: and increasingly like the clickbait, you know, the these kind

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01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: of fights Jake Paul against Tyson, it's what gets people,

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01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, to the streaming platform. But it was interesting.

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01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: I was watching this fight and I was thinking, what

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01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: Jake Paul's done is create a business model, which is

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Speaker 1: I'm going to fight big name guys. You know Tommy

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Speaker 1: f Fury junior, you know Nate Robinson. At the time

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01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: was like amazing two sport athlete Mike Tyson, and then

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01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: immediately after the fight, like the next day, he's like

1375
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor, and I thought, it's really a business model.

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01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to fight older guys way past their prime,

1377
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: big name guys. If I lose, I make forty million dollars.

1378
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: What do I care. He's not all Lee, he didn't

1379
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: have a legacy to live up to. It's a business model,

1380
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: old huge names, even Fury's kid. Fury's the heavyweight chat,

1381
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: let's go after his kid the only fight he's ever lost.

1382
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: And that was my first takeaway. The second takeaway is

1383
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: July twentieth. I mean Mike tisnerbles died. He had like

1384
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: a blood transfusion and it's like liver something. And when

1385
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: you watch the fight, by the end of the third round,

1386
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,879
Speaker 1: Mike had no legs. It's like you think, to yourself,

1387
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: well it's November. It was July. He almost died, and

1388
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: so in the end, Mike probably should have fought in March.

1389
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean for you know, Mike probably

1390
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: wanted to fight. You feel good. When I had a

1391
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: pulmonary embolism, I'll never forget this, not nearly anything resembling Mike.

1392
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: But it hurt for three weeks. But they had me

1393
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: on blood thinners for like four months, and I said,

1394
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: I just don't want to be on blood thinners. I just,

1395
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: you know what if I cut myself shaven, I don't

1396
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: want to, you know, have stuff. Can I just stop?

1397
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: But they said, okay. But I remember going to talk

1398
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: to a doctor six months. They had me just do

1399
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: a final check, and he goes, people don't understand just

1400
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: because you don't feel something doesn't mean it's not a

1401
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: traumatic effect on your body. He goes, you have nerve damage.

1402
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: Mike.

1403
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: Mike lost half the blood in his body. And so

1404
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: I think if Mike would have fought in March, it

1405
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: would have been entertaining. I felt by the end of

1406
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: the third round, I'm like, he's done. Like that was

1407
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: my take, Like he's Mike, just doesn't he Mike could well.

1408
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 2: Those last couple of rounds, he was just standing there.

1409
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 1: So I didn't feel ripped off when I went into

1410
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: the sport thinking, listen, it's a circus. I compared it

1411
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: on Friday. It's the carnival at the parking lot at

1412
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: the mall in your hometown. Sometimes it goes sideways and

1413
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: you think to yourself, why did I waste a night

1414
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: of my life? So I wasn't. I just thought it

1415
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: was a mess. I kind of went in thinking fifty

1416
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: percent chance it would be a mess. It was. What

1417
01:09:59,200 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 1: was your take?

1418
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 2: Well, I think we have to acknowledge, you know, I

1419
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 2: think the one thing Dana White is brought to the

1420
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: table is obviously not all of their cards are all

1421
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: time greats. But you do go in thinking I'm going

1422
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 2: to get the best of everyone that's fighting and for

1423
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 2: the most part in the and I'm not a big

1424
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 2: UFC guy. Yeah, like I admire what they've built in

1425
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: Dana White, but I'm not watching every card. But like,

1426
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 2: it's pretty clear I got things a war zone in

1427
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: the octagon, I would say, in my adult life. And

1428
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 2: you know, I was born in the mid eighties, so

1429
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 2: I did not grow up on the peak of Tyson.

1430
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: When I was coming into my own as a kid,

1431
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: it was like Tyson Fight in the Holy Field. Lennox

1432
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 2: Lewis stuff, and that was not the same guy that

1433
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: fought in the late eighties right in college. I'll never

1434
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 2: forget when Floyd Mayweather fought Oscar de la Hoya, and

1435
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 2: it was at the end of Oscar's prime, but it

1436
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 2: was It's probably one of the biggest fights of the

1437
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: last I don't know, twenty plus years and it was

1438
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 2: fucking terrible, and I remember it was a big deal

1439
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 2: for us to buy and we were watching it was

1440
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: like the most boring fight of all time. And that

1441
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: is the business of boxing is they could hype it

1442
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: up and get you to We didn't have to buy

1443
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: it this one because it was on Netflix, which everyone

1444
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: owns why they got sixty million people watching, But they

1445
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 2: got sixty million people watching because they can hype something up.

1446
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 2: What was the last big one? When Connor McGregor box

1447
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather, like it is kind of a carnival circus

1448
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 2: that you can't miss. And when they do get the

1449
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 2: big names, I would say Dana White would die to

1450
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: have that, and he had it for a minute with

1451
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: Connor and when I was in college, like Chuck and Tito,

1452
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 2: But it's very very boxing for some reason, coming they've

1453
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: got this YouTube star that you see him, he looks

1454
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 2: like he's Ray Lewis. He's jacked up and he's not terrible,

1455
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: but you don't know how good he is. But it

1456
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: doesn't even matter. His marketing is genius. Sixty million people

1457
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: watch well, and I was reading some business guy broke

1458
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: it down on social media that like, you know, Brady,

1459
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: because there weren't any glitches on the roast, but they're

1460
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: like that was domestic and they were like less than

1461
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 2: it was like twenty five million people. There's a big

1462
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: difference between twenty five million and sixty million people worldwide,

1463
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 2: and clearly it was screwing up the the service because

1464
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: the NFL when they go on Christmas, that number is

1465
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 2: much more like the roast twenty million people than this.

1466
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 2: This was a worldwide listen because of my time and

1467
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 2: even Jake Paul, like Jake Paul's huge on YouTube where

1468
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 2: you can watch anywhere.

1469
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm in bed Friday night with my wife in Park

1470
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: City and I'm getting tired and my wife is bumping me.

1471
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: It's like six round. I'm just like starting to get

1472
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: not Off'm like this is bad. She's I can't believe this.

1473
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: This is beat. My wife was completely into it. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Serrano and Taylor on the undercard was a

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01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: fantastic fight. That was one for the agents.

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Speaker 2: But you know the thing with like, you know, some

1477
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 2: of the Floyd big fights, I would say, of the

1478
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: last whatever and Connor and Floyd, those were pay per view,

1479
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 2: so you know, you had to spend ninety nine ninety nine.

1480
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: So usually there was like, hey, I'm spending money on this,

1481
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,919
Speaker 2: and you always left disappointed. Is why people always complained,

1482
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 2: I think of like the boxing, because they would get

1483
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: fooled into it and then be pissed off, like, God,

1484
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 2: I knew it. No one paid you. You're already paying

1485
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: for net right, So all these people on social media complaining,

1486
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 2: it's like you could have just turned it off, like you, God,

1487
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: is Mike Tyson's fifty eight years old. Now if they

1488
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 2: had charged a buck fifty be like, Okay, I got fooled.

1489
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: I'd be pissed off. No one got fooled, And it

1490
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 2: was clear really early. Well, I mean by the end

1491
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: you kind of felt bad for the game. Yeah, I thought,

1492
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 2: you know, I thought, now twenty you got twenty million dollars.

1493
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: I thought Jake Paul had real self awareness after the

1494
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 1: fight when he said, you know, there's just a time

1495
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: I didn't want to humiliate anybody. I mean, he knew

1496
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,719
Speaker 1: you could tell by the fifth round. Like I'm watching

1497
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: it the fifth round and I'm I'm like, oh, this

1498
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: has got sad. Now. The other thing is, you know

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01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: Netflix doesn't do sports. I mean, they've dabbled in it,

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01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: and I think you know, I looked at it and

1501
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: I didn't think the production was very good. You know

1502
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: that I'm so used to it cheesy.

1503
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 2: It fell a little off.

1504
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm used to Jim Lampley, I want, but you

1505
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: know it took me even.

1506
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 2: At UFC feels big league now, doesn't it.

1507
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: Oh, there's no question. Joe Rogan, Yeah, it feels world class.

1508
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, I mean, I think what UFC

1509
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: feels like with Dana. One of the so I go

1510
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: to three to four UFC cards a year live in

1511
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: the summer. When I have time off in the summer

1512
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 1: and I'm not beholden to sit and watching college and

1513
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: pro football, I will go to UFC cards and I'll

1514
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: buy another five. So I probably seven times a year,

1515
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: eight times. You know, I'm into the UFC. One of

1516
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: the things I always appreciated is that after a fight,

1517
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: I'll go in, I'll get I'll go to the bathroom

1518
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: in the media room, pour a cocktail or something, talk

1519
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 1: to a buddy, maybe grab a little you know, he'll

1520
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: have food in their chicken finger. I come out, fight

1521
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: starts in five minutes. Like Dana keeps that shit going.

1522
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just let's go, let's go. It's such

1523
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: a well oiled machine with Dana. I've never had a

1524
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: bad time at a UFC card. I never thought I

1525
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: would like watching women fight, and I watched Srono Taylor

1526
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, I've seen some USC fights

1527
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: with women like it's the it's the first or second

1528
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: best fight on the card. So Netflix did have a

1529
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: pretty good undercard. But when I looked at Netflix overall,

1530
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a blip. This this isn't one

1531
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: percent of their business. And they're building a sports department

1532
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be shocked if they had a daredevil

1533
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: event that They're not INBC Sports. They're not Fox, that's

1534
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: not what they are.

1535
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: Who is the guy that used to jump over the

1536
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 2: Grand Canyon and Robbie Cavel? Yeah, you know the one

1537
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: thing I think UFC has, which I think football has this.

1538
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 2: If you're gonna play in a football game, it's really

1539
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: hard to have asked because you can get taken out.

1540
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 2: You know, in basketball, one thing you could just kind

1541
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: of cruise through a month, right, just I go pass

1542
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 2: a little shoot a little football. If you're gonna play

1543
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: in the game, like you better be ready to go.

1544
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: Boxing kind of has that too. I mean, Floyd got

1545
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 2: knocked for this, and obviously he's really skilled, but he

1546
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 2: could dance around, he can never touch him. You get

1547
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: in that octagon, man or woman, you better be ready

1548
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: to go because you could get legitimately hurt. And that's

1549
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: why I would say you're kind of you watch this

1550
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 2: Jake Paul fight, hoping Mike Tyson could knock him out early,

1551
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: but you knew more than likely. If you gave every

1552
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: human truth serum to follow sports, it's gonna be a weird,

1553
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 2: bizarre event. When you go to a UFC event, you're like,

1554
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 2: at any moment, any person, the best, the random guy

1555
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 2: can get their jaw put one hundred and eighty degrees

1556
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 2: and you know that. And I think football is a

1557
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 2: lot like that too. When I turn on a football game,

1558
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: I mean hel Florida look like Alabama against LSU. Yeah,

1559
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: you put the pads on, you, buckle that chin strap.

1560
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 2: You gotta be ready to go and listen. I'm not again,

1561
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge UFC guy just because I've just

1562
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 2: like I really admire and appreciate the violence and the

1563
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: business they've built. I just don't watch it that much,

1564
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 2: but I do respect what it takes. Again that and

1565
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: in boxing, like you gotta fake it for a while. Yeah,

1566
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 2: I mean it feels like Floyd for the last five

1567
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 2: six years of his career made a lot of money

1568
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 2: dancing around that ring.

1569
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, And I think I mean Jake Paul again,

1570
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 1: it is it's a business model. Go find out a

1571
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: big name guy fight him. The Connor McGregor fight. I'll

1572
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: be honest, I would watch it. I think Jake Paul

1573
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: would hammer. I don't think Connor can get up to

1574
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: that weight, and Jake Paul he doesn't want to.

1575
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 2: You know what is what is Jake way? Well, I

1576
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 2: mean Connor like struggled to get to like one sixty five.

1577
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: No, I mean I look at I mean Jake's like,

1578
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: let's just not even count wait, and I'm thinking, give

1579
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: me a break. Jake. Jake looks like what if.

1580
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: They got a what if they each got one hundred

1581
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 2: million dollars? I think Connor might I.

1582
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: Can see fifty. I will say this though, Jake Paul

1583
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: looks like a little bit like an NFL defensive end.

1584
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's how that's what he looks like.

1585
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 2: Paul looks good, Jake Paul. Here's the one thing I

1586
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 2: appreciate bu Jake Paul. You know he takes it seriously. Yeah,

1587
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: like he's not showing in there with a belly or

1588
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 2: like he takes boxing really serious. Like whatever he's created,

1589
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 2: he has put all his chips in the middle of

1590
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 2: the table on his thing. And in terms of training,

1591
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 2: who do I hear say this that they watched him

1592
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: train and they're like, obviously, relative to like these guys

1593
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 2: in their prime, you can't compare him. But for what

1594
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: he is, he's really impressive. You just watch him spar

1595
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,480
Speaker 2: in some ram them gym On a Tuesday.

1596
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: Afternoon, John Middlecoff, former NFL scout Good Hour twenty broke

1597
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: down everything I wanted to break down.

1598
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 2: Buddy Good talking see you Collin

1599
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Speaker 1: The volume