1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: It's fine. It's fine podcast as a year and hello 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: from America. It's the Around the NFL podcast. That's my 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: British affectation again, sophistication. Dan Hansons, Greg Rosenthal Erica tamposted 4 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: back in the States and that all will be back 5 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: in the States. We're back, and I mean we all 6 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: the way back, baby, the best as we can be 7 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: because Mark Sessler is back. What's up? Quiet storm? Oh? 8 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, this is the second time 9 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: I've had to um discuss returning to the show after 10 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: it a medical scare. It's getting just slightly old. UM. 11 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: I had a good time like in the last month. Yeah, 12 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: the second time in the last I think probably the 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: upshot is I I hastened my return um the first time, 14 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: which might have been against uh, you know, smarter advisement. UM. 15 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: I have learned the value of having a great nurse 16 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: here and there. They've been UM, A lot of people 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: help me out during this whole thing. But also I 18 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: don't know to make it to keep it short like UM, 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: I have I think you know anyone that's been away 20 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: for any period our listeners, I've I have heard from 21 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: a ton of them, and I really think them for 22 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: everything that they wrote. Um, it has been a weird month. 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Like I my life has changed a little bit. Um 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: from a physical perspective. I don't need to dig into 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: all that. But UM, it's good to be back here. 26 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: And I couldn't thank you more the three of you 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: and everyone surrounding you. UM that handled the TV shows, uh, 28 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: the podcast of course, the trip to London. You guys 29 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: did an incredible job from what I saw, And you know, 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: I did my best to handle any sort of drama 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: that occurred here on the in the States while you 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: were gone. Very little UM popped up. But it it also, UM, 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, we've done this show for so long and 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: we've had to go through periods where you've got to 35 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: pitch in and do a little bit more. And I 36 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: know that you guys did that. It really um it 37 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: kind of it was terrible to be away on some 38 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: level because just as an aging man, UM, you're watching 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: like your career occur without you, kind of um from 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: a distance, and I had to reconcile a lot of that. 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: And you have a lot of hours alone to think 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: about your life. And I don't think anything for me 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: will ever really be the same, but um, it's it 44 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: also is the same in many ways, and so I 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: guess I'm just happy to be back with um, with 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: all three of you. People should know that Mark is 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: live via satellite inside an iron lung. That's right, it's 48 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: a wonderful place to be. He's live inside of kirk 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Cousins is plus plexiglass container. Oh Mark, we we missed 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: you so much, buddy. Uh and the audience did as well. 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, we had a great time in England. But 52 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: obviously it's just, you know, not the same about the 53 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: quiet storm. So it's great to have you in the mix. 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: When you referred to a great nurse, was that some 55 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: pillow talk of involving your wife or was that an 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: actual nurse, like a practitioner of medicine. Well, I won't 57 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: reveal the former, but Um, on the latter point, I 58 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: think that you know, I probably over over since late August. 59 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: You know, you nurses work three days a week, but 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: they work these twelve hour longer shifts, and I kind 61 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: of think that's an incredible setup. I think maybe I 62 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: should have been a nurse had it been more trendy 63 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: back in the day. I like, I could totally see you. Yeah, 64 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean you have to, you have to kind of 65 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: care for people. It's nice. Um, but I would say that, 66 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, having probably thirty of them over the last 67 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: month plus. Um, there is the way, Dan that you 68 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: power rank thirty two teams. I easily could have come 69 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: up with an article about power ranking nurses, an article 70 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: that literally know on what I've interested in reading. But 71 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: some really did there did their jobs with um a 72 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: plumb and I tell us I would note that right 73 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: away in appreciate that. Tell us about number twenty seven, 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: Olga seven, very run down. UM. One thing I've learned 75 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: is I am a pretty polite patient. I was told 76 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: that by you don't want to be a nightmare. Um. 77 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: But what I learned was that when you're not the 78 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: squeaky wheel, and I think we this is you know, 79 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: all areas of life if you have children, especially the 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: non squeaky wheel gets ignored. So the Olga at twenty 81 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: seven would be the type that you know. On her 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: twelve hour shifts, she stopped by three times, you know, 83 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: and I'm totally dehydrated and fading away. Because you're not 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: the most annoying patient. There are plenty of them, so 85 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: you've got to get in there and kind of learned 86 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: the smarts of how to be just vocal enough to 87 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: get attended to. That's what I've learned. Wow, And what 88 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: a lesson that is. Not that I'm hoping that you 89 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: have to deal with that, that's something. And and you'll 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: you'll have to promise us not to leave us again, because, uh, 91 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: we miss you when you're not here. And you know, 92 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: we were supposed to do a show. We were going 93 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: to take a little uh take a little break on Tuesday's. 94 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: We flew in, got in early last evening into Los Angeles, 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: ten hour flight after a crazy week and all that. 96 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: The plan was to take it easy Tuesday, come back Wednesday. 97 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: But then some crazy stuff went down. Uh. First of 98 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: course the John Gruden News which were about to dive 99 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: into uh and then like a wild Monday night game 100 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: where Lamar Jackson authored one of the more memorable prime 101 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: time performances in quite a long time. UH. And with 102 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: that all there, Greg, it was like, all right, I 103 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: think we gotta throw up the bat signal. We gotta 104 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: get back into the bunker cast uh, studio setups at 105 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: home and rip one off football waits for no travel 106 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: plans no, it's good. I mean, this was a wild, 107 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: a wild fork in the road for for two big 108 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: NFL characters. We might be the last time we talked 109 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: about John Gruden for quite a while. I think that's 110 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: certainly possible, all right, And also we're going to uh 111 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: cap the episode by previewing the first game of week six. 112 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: Look how the time flies. My goodness, Mark Sessler's back. 113 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: Let's do some news. All right, here we go John Gruden. 114 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: Unbelievable turn of events uh in the NFL On Monday, UH, 115 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: the Raiders coach who's been involved in the NFL for decades, 116 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: came back signed a ten year, one hundred million dollar 117 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: deal with the Raiders UH to lead them back to 118 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: the Promised Land. Instead, after three seasons in five games, 119 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 1: he is out as a result of reports that emails 120 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: he wrote over ten year period included racist, misogynistic, and 121 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: anti gay language. That I mean, that's the hat trick. 122 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: If you're looking to get run the hell out of 123 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: town and your career to be shot, there it is. 124 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: And he did it all. Uh. And you know, this 125 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: is a situation that we saw leading into the weekend. 126 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: It was a story because it was the Demorris Smith 127 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: jabs and the racist tropes in the language he used. 128 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: And little did we know at the time, but other 129 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: teams and the league and UH news organizations, most prominently 130 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: the New York Times. UH, there was much much more, 131 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: and it all came back to bite Gruden in a 132 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: big way. UM, and he had this statement released on Monday. 133 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: I love the Raiders and I do not want to 134 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: be a distraction. Thank you to all the players, coaches, 135 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: staff and fans of Raider Nation. I'm sorry. I never 136 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: meant to hurt anyone. Greg. There's there's there's long term 137 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: ramifications for the Raiders, their short term ramifications for the Raiders, 138 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: and we'll get to that. But the central figure here 139 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: John Gruden, a towering figure really in both the sidelines, 140 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL and in the broadcasting ranks. He's gone 141 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: and he ain't coming back. I know. I think of 142 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: the few days after he won the Super Bowl with 143 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: Tampa and Bill Belichick wrote this column weirdly in the 144 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: New York Times, and the column was like, what are 145 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: you gonna do next? And it was basically Jon Gruden 146 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: at that moment was as bright a young coaching light 147 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: as I can remember. Over the last twenty years, very 148 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: similar to Sean McVeigh. I think when when he popped up, 149 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: But if Sean McVeigh had had won the Super Bowl, 150 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: and you think about what happened after that in Tampa, 151 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: after that win, mediocrity, and then you think about this 152 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: run which has been mediocrity, and then you think about 153 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: now how it's gonna end and will forever um be 154 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: connected to Gruden, you know, as one of the first 155 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: couple of lines in in his obituary, how how this 156 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: went out in the most like embarrassing, ugly pathetic way possible. 157 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: And I think when the second batch of you know, 158 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: information came out, which Mark Davis, the Raiders owner, apparently 159 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: had a little bit of an idea was coming anyways, 160 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: and I think was prepared for it. Um there was 161 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: no choice Mark Davis, because Raiders history, of all teams, 162 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: is the history of inclusion. They they have been ahead 163 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: of the NFL at every step of the way in 164 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: terms of diversity, in terms of giving um black people 165 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: executive jobs, giving them coaching jobs, giving Latino X coaching jobs, 166 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: having you know, quarterbacks in that position, having women in 167 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: the executive positions. The Raiders are such a unique franchise 168 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: in history, but that that is one of the things 169 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: that has made them more unique than ever. And so 170 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: Mark Davis, I think knowing what his father would do 171 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: made a probably what for him was obviously a painful decision, 172 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: but I can't imagine it was one that was that 173 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: difficult for him. It was pretty obvious because to to 174 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: it to Mark Davis, to Al Davis something meant a 175 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: little more of what it meant to be a Raider. 176 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he knew all of this stuff about 177 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: Gruden obviously when when he hired him, but he found 178 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: it out this weekend and and that was it. And 179 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: you move on and and maybe we will talk Gruden 180 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: in the future, because there will be lawyers, you know, 181 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: there will be money disputes, and there will be a 182 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: lot more that that goes on just between the Raiders 183 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: and John Gruden. But unbelievable to the career like that 184 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: that was once at that pedestal taken out in one 185 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: of the most I don't know, brutal ways, um in 186 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: in deserving ways that we've ever seen from a figure 187 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: of that level. Yeah, I mean, I love that you 188 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: mentioned the Belichick letter in the in the time that spans. 189 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Gruden is one of these figures that you 190 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: know on a football front, has been in our lives 191 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: for decades plus because it wasn't even just the Bucks job. 192 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: It was him rising up as a colorful character with 193 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: the Niners and previous roles and just him on television 194 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: and the persona of Gruden as much as anything else. 195 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: But I guess you know, for all of us, you know, 196 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: character will be revealed, and uh, you know, I think 197 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: that it's it's fair to to look at this from 198 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: a couple of different angles, and you're absolutely right about 199 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Greg. Um, I think there's it's fair to question, 200 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: even with the Demorris Smith comments that came out, why 201 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: Gruden would have been coaching on on Sunday. Um, that's 202 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: for another day, because I think it's pretty evident because Gruden, 203 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: you know, talked, he talked over the weekend to Chris 204 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: Mortenson about some of the disparaging Goodell comments. He did 205 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: not give total details, but you give you get the 206 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: sense that the Raiders and Mark Davis knew, and you're 207 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: absolutely right about the Raiders. If I if I feel 208 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: that I was benefited by one story I worked on 209 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: last year was like spending weeks talking to guys like 210 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: Art Shell in old school Raiders. And it was Art 211 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: Shell who became the second, really the first UM African 212 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: American head coach in the modern era after Fritz Pollard. 213 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: Way back when UM Al Davis, you know, he refused 214 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: to play in Mobile, Alabama back in the early sixties 215 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: because of segregation. He hired Amy Trask, Tom Flores, Karl 216 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: Nasset is the first openly gay player on the Raiders. 217 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: The athletics set it perfectly of Al Davis. He respected 218 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: talent no matter how it was packaged, and so the 219 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: Raiders have been a different team then the rest of 220 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: the league on that front. And I think it's Mark 221 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: Davis is UM really essentially two decades long fascination with Gruden. 222 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: I mean he courted him for six years before hiring him, 223 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: and they talked about the fact that Mark Davis had 224 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: a favorite laundry mat in Tampa because he was down 225 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: there so often trying to get Grooden back into the 226 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: grip of the Raiders. I don't know what Mark Davis 227 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: is doing at a laundry mat to begin with, but 228 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at all the people in these emails, Lady, 229 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: I guess he's also the same guy that got like 230 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: eight dollar haircuts at Supercuts and drove around that pop 231 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: top van. He's a little different, that's fairy. He does 232 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: things um in the Mark Davis way. But I mean, 233 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: if you go through the laundry list of who was 234 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: ripped on by Gruden in these emails, I think it 235 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: just came to a point where there's literally no argument 236 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: for him to stay. Was there an argument after go ahead? 237 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: And now I was just gonna say, like you you're 238 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: mentioning um Mark Davis and like a decision he had 239 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: to make. There was no decision. This is two one 240 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: and and when you're seeing when you're seeing the gay 241 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: slurs used to describe ROGERI. Cadell the commissioner, and all 242 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: the uh anti feminist comments he was saying about various 243 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: figures getting opportunities, whether it's on coaching staffs, or on 244 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: the sidelines or um on the officiating ranks. I mean, 245 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: it was a rap. But by the time I got 246 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: to the third paragraph of that New York Times story 247 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: when we got off the plane from London, was like, oh, well, okay, 248 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: John Gruden's career is over and you know it's like, 249 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: first of all, Mark the I can't believe Belichick writes 250 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: a letter about John Gruden, of all people, and you 251 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: still can't get a letter back from Gruden from Belichick 252 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: after all the great things you sent him back in 253 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: the day. That's on my radar. But I'll say this too, 254 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: because Gruden, you know, his stripes were revealed and he 255 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: said over the weekend there isn't a blade of racism 256 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: minium um. These emails obviously say otherwise, not just racism, 257 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: but all other kind of repugnant thoughts that he should 258 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: have own better. Even if you have that inside you, 259 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: you have to be smarter. And it makes me think, 260 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: it makes me think there are a lot of coaches, 261 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: g MS, owners, scouts up and down the NFL ladder 262 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: on this morning being like, what did I send? What 263 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: did I send? What emails are out there that are 264 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: connected to me? Because John Gruden did not send that 265 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: from an NFL account. He sent that from a personal 266 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: account to his old buddy Bruce Allen, his old henchman 267 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: who was with Washington, and he was dumb enough to 268 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: be sending all sorts of things from the official Washington 269 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: account and Uh, that is just something that just to wonder, 270 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: what is there going to be more fallout from this? 271 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: And it wasn't a Gruten investigation. This is all connected 272 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,119 Speaker 1: to the Washington Football team investigation and all the misconduct 273 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: that was going on there behind the scenes under Daniel Snyder. 274 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: So uh, that is an element of this story too, 275 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: like the shock waves that come with this because again 276 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: Gruden greg towering figure in this league, and if he 277 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: could be taken out, uh and be exposed this way, 278 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: maybe there's other people too well, right, because you only 279 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: send those emails because like it's a normal thing to 280 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: do at the time. That's the thing people were like, well, 281 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: this was eleven years ago. First of all, the band 282 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: was in his late forties eleven years ago. Like when 283 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: this thing is like, well, you know he's he's grown 284 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: since them. It's like, this is a grown man. Let's 285 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: let's let's stop with the like this is eleven years ago. 286 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: That that's that's so different. But it's just a look, 287 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: it's not it's not a surprising thing. There's tons of 288 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: racist and homophobic and sexist people in all in every 289 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: in every business, especially the higher up you go, and 290 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: especially eleven years ago. Everyone, you know, people felt comfortable 291 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: expressing that it's like a boys club and and and 292 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: at that level, it's a rich it's a rich white 293 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: boys club. And so that's you could scrub all these 294 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: emails from different accounts and and that you would find it. 295 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: The fact that it's only out there because the owner 296 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: of the Washington football team was found to um be 297 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: responsible for a workplace uh that condoned and essentially supported 298 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: sexual harassment and saw all sorts of things, and even 299 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: even these emails where they're talking about sending pictures between 300 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: Alan and Gruden is part of that. The fact that 301 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: it's only coming out because of that is is really 302 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: wild because we haven't seen those emails. And Dan Snyder 303 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: we talked about on this podcast. It was a on 304 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: one hand, like a in a incredibly embarrassing moment for 305 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: him to be taken off the day to day operations 306 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: of Washington the football team. Videos on the other had 307 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: his wife is running the team, and that the last 308 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: year and a half since they hired Jason Wright has 309 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: basically been like a year and a half long press 310 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: release of like how we've changed as a team. As 311 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: recently as a couple of months ago. She you know, 312 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: his dance player's wife is on the Adam Schefter podcast 313 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: and it's basically doing pr about like how tough it 314 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: is on them, And you would just have to wonder, 315 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: like are more of these coming out? Because that was 316 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: the bigger That was the bigger story Gruden. Gruden needs 317 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: to be wiped out and everything, but that that was 318 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: like the bigger story. And it is fascinating that the 319 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: NFL is officially asked, you know, taking this moment of 320 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: the public paying attention to this story again and asked 321 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: for them to release the emails. And so we'll see 322 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: if that there's enough public pressure for the NFL to 323 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: consider any of this because there's a lot of people 324 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: like guessing who the sources are. I don't think you 325 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: can do that, and it's just like it's impossible. There's 326 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, another another big aspect to this story is 327 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: the targeted nature of it. I think we all agree 328 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: that what John Gruden did was absolute grounds for immedia 329 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: dismissal and he's gone. Um we all feel I mean, 330 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: we don't all know a lot of coaches personally, but 331 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: the coaching community um is a circle. Uh, No one's 332 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: fired for long Um, it is an old boys club, 333 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: although that's changing, you know, on minuscule amounts um. But 334 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: at this point I think that, like you'd have to 335 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: assume that if you heavily vetted all thirty two head coaches, 336 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: this is my guest that twenty plus would be in 337 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: serious hot water if not, if not more, I mean, 338 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: I think some of your younger coaches are coming up 339 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: through a different um prism in portal, but Gruden belongs 340 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: to a time period where that was completely different. And 341 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: on the on the Washington front, I mean the completely 342 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: separate to what grewed and said they went through six 343 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand emails. Um, you talk about a 344 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: group of you know, rich whites that essentially run things. 345 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: But there's another layer of it, and it's the ownership. 346 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: Because the report on Snyder was given to the league 347 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: and oral fashion, it was not written. This is a 348 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: league that did a two hundred forty three page written 349 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: report on Tom Brady using inflated football's when it comes 350 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: to the players and what they would call the coaches 351 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: and the players, and it was said way back when 352 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: that those are the cattle. We can get rid of them, 353 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: we can replace them. The reports on those people are 354 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: thorough and rich, but there's no written report on what 355 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: else was found in this Washington investigation. And I mean 356 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: there needs to be much more pushed for that because 357 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: we're talking about a level of ownership and leadership that 358 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: goes above the coaching level. Mark you return and right 359 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: on cue, a conspiracy is a foot maybe in the NFL. 360 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: Not to make light of the situation, but it is. Uh, 361 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: there are layers to this, and uh, it is going 362 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: to be interesting how it all turns out in terms of, yes, 363 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: what else can you get rid of coaches? You can't 364 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: get rid of owners because I think if you could, 365 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: well you can. Jerry Richardson will tell you you can, 366 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: but it takes a lot. He stepped down, you know. 367 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: I think if you could, then we would have different 368 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: ownership in Washington, or at least if they felt like 369 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: you could. Because honestly, think Greg that Jerry Richardson steps 370 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: down by choice there or because he doesn't have it. 371 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: He stepped down because he was um completely embarrassed in 372 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: his career, was in flames now in Washington, and that 373 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: he just felt like it was the you know, he 374 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: was pressured and he felt like was the right thing 375 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: to do. What I'm trying to say is Washington. There's 376 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: first of all, it in many moments where publicly in 377 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: Washington that you could have said that, but that they've 378 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: resisted the public pressure there, I mean before any of 379 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: this workplace stuff. But yes, I think there's probably been 380 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: pressure in various fashions, certainly publicly and through the media 381 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: on Washington to change ownership. But I would tend to 382 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: surmise like privately too, and it never happened. It's never 383 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: happened because there's there. It's a it gets very complicated. 384 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: That's that's in theory, a boss of the person you're 385 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: trying to push out, you know, they're they're the boss 386 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: of Roger Goodell. Right. The penalty for owners is you 387 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: hand it off to a spouse or a daughter or 388 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: son or some family member who can take over for you. 389 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: It's not actually new control of an owner of a 390 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: team for the most part. And now spinning back to 391 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: the Raiders side of things, in the short term, this 392 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: is the situation. Uh Rich Bisaccia takes over as the 393 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: interim head coach and that is a very tough gig 394 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: the Raiders. I mean, how much things have changed. He's 395 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: assistant coach with Sachi has been around forever, just like 396 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: all of Gruden's guys. And um, two weeks ago, the 397 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: Raiders are three and oh and one of the big 398 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: stories in football, and the Raiders are a vibe in 399 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: that building. Now the vibe has changed around the Raiders. 400 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: And you just will see what happens. Is this a 401 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: team that now goes in the tank? Uh? Do they 402 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: kind of follow whatever path they were originally on. We're 403 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: gonna see what happens in the short term and in 404 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: the long term. And this is also this is something 405 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: we'll we'll find out as time goes along. But it's 406 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: almost unprecedented. Um, Gruden wasn't just the head coach. I 407 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: know Mike Mayock as a general manager, but this was 408 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: Gruden's team. He was the face of the Las Vegas Raiders. 409 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: He was the face on the sideline. He was the boss. 410 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: He had a major hand in the personnel side of things, 411 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: might have maybe even above Mayock most likely. Yes. And 412 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, over one weekend, you pull that 413 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: guy out and he heads for the curb. And as 414 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: an organization, it's like, oh boy, now it I mean 415 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: this is maybe not an episode of now What on 416 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: the Round the NFL podcast, but that is exactly what 417 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders are probably wondering right now, what do we 418 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: do next? Because the entire organization in a lot of 419 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: ways was John Gruden and now he gone, that's a 420 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: huge story too, right, Who's even they at this point? 421 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: They is the team for the rest of the season. 422 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: Who was twenty five d v o A Through five 423 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: weeks it was one a couple of close games, was 424 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: pretty poor the last couple of weeks. You know, it 425 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: has some things to like about it as a quarterback 426 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: plane really well, but has a quarterback plane really well 427 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: in the system that John grun ran that you know, 428 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: he was with him for four years. And if there 429 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: was one positive thing about this John Gruden's second tenure, 430 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: I think he called plays pretty well and the players 431 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: that were there in his offensive system mostly car improved. 432 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: But it's it's not a good team on paper, you know, 433 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: it's it's probably a mediocre or or less than that. 434 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: I know they lost less two games in d v A. 435 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: G v o A means everything to a lot of people, 436 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: but I think the Raiders doesn't mean everything. Like an 437 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: underlying thing that they were a competitive but pretty average team. 438 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 1: You watch that team, I feel like cars playing at 439 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: a top five or six level, and he's carrying a 440 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: terrible offensive line. Uh, and they give up a lot 441 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: of big plays, certainly defensively. Still even if they're like 442 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: a little better. It's it's just crazy because Mayock has 443 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: to assume he's not going to be there next year. 444 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 1: Of course he'll he'll try to do everything he can 445 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: to make it um, but it's gonna probably be a 446 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: new coach that Mark Davis hired. A new coach isn't 447 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: gonna want that GM and it's just not how things 448 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: work generally. You you could almost assume that everyone associated 449 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: with this Raiders coaching staff is not going to be 450 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: there next year, and that Derek Carr, who's under contract 451 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: for very cheap, that'll be that'll be up to the 452 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: next coach. Well, and and also their team president left 453 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: and I know that kind of stuff flies by like 454 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: our radartists some degree, but he essentially Mark Bada, the 455 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: team president, left under rather you know, serious surprising too, 456 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: And people were chattering wrote like what is going on 457 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: with the Raiders that all these executives are leaving in 458 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: like a noble circumstance. It leaves Mark Davis to have 459 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: to rebuild, you know, the vision of the team from scratch. 460 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's the first owner I'd picked to 461 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: do that. Um, his vision was John Gruden and John 462 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: Gruden to your point, Dan running the entire organization with 463 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, who would have ever put money on Mike 464 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: Mayock outlasting John Gruden. It took something like this, and 465 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: the Raiders are in free fault because it's administrative side 466 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: and coaching football side that they've got to dig their 467 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: way out of. Ricky A. I just think there's a 468 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: couple of Obviously, all of this is so important. One 469 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: this story drops on right before Monday Night Football, which 470 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: something Gruden was heavily involved in, which is interesting too. 471 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: Yesterday was National coming Out Day and so to think 472 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: of some of his players where we have the first 473 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: openly gay player on this team, uh, to kind of 474 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: see this stuff, not to mention the black players on 475 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: this team and all, you know, Roger Goodell has told 476 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: stories about defending his gay brother from bullies in the past, 477 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: and there was there was name calling, and that There's 478 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: so much that goes into this that is so crazy. 479 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: But one thing that I've seen that are is so 480 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: interesting to me is there was reports that the league 481 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: brought this to you know, Mark Davis on Friday, and 482 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: he still showed up, and he still coached Sunday, and 483 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: then Gruden resigns on Monday. And and as much as 484 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: I want to say like, yes, this team is so 485 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: forward and so great, I do find it interesting as 486 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: how Gruden resigned and how he even coached on Sunday, 487 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: and I just I just find that very peculiar. I 488 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: wonder because Gruden now that we have the benefit of 489 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: a benefit of hindsight. Um, Gruden alluded to the Roger 490 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: Goodell thing, which seemed kind of random at the time. 491 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: Greg on the way of the airport yesterday even kind 492 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: of said that was random that he brings up Roger Goodell, 493 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: as if to say, hey, listen, it wasn't just d Smith. 494 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: I was getting it. Well, that was all calculated, as 495 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: it turns out, because he knew this was on its 496 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: way out. I wonder if he thought, Okay, I'm probably 497 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: gonna killed for this Goodell thing too. But I heard 498 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: the reports out that the League is not gonna fire 499 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: me as of Monday, morning was being reported or it 500 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: was late Sunday night that he was probably gonna be okay. Um, 501 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: the League office was probably not gonna do anything serious 502 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: in terms of suspension. I wonder if they thought, oh, 503 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: we could handle this fire and completely misunderstood how how 504 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: this league going to come off? Right? The League wanted 505 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: Mark Davis to do it for them, um, which it 506 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: makes sense on some level, but they just wanted him 507 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: to take care of it. And it feels like Mark 508 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: Davis obviously was surprised by this, and you know, he 509 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: took a couple of days, and I think there's also 510 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: legal ramifications of whether he you know, contract ramifications of 511 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: whether he's resigning or whether he's fired and whether it's 512 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: for cause and all this sort of stuff. And and yeah, 513 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: they probably gave him the weekend basically the New York 514 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: Times or something, and then and then the rest of 515 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: it comes out, and then they forced his hand. It's crazy. 516 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: On the brighter side, though, Mark will win some sandwiches, 517 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: So I mean that's yeah, let's let's wait. Put let's 518 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: the copinion that we're gonna close the show talking about 519 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: that Ricky and as a as a gay woman and 520 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: as anyone else that has Um was really taken aback 521 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: and insulted or hurt by what was in that email. 522 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: I guess you could take. You know, they let him 523 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: coach on Sunday. Now they're getting heat for that and 524 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: the team though showed they lost anyway with Grooden. So 525 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: that's one last note connected to that. All right, Well, 526 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: the spice Rack would say that they're gonna win this week, 527 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: that when coaches get disgraced and fired that the team 528 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: always responds. According to the spice Rack College Football NFL, 529 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: he believes that the fighting blasacchi Is are gonna go 530 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: to Denver and really give a great effort. That almost happens. 531 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case with with this Grooden 532 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: situation is a little different than firing out and firing 533 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: a tired you know one in two, well Um non 534 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: creative coach that players don't relate to. Gruden had supporters 535 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: in that. And that's also you're telling half the story. Greg, 536 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: I won't know this says specifically the second part of that. 537 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: I know that he would have said to pick against 538 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: the Raiders Sunday, and now he would have said go 539 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: with the Raiders. This week So yeah, Greg shared it 540 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: with me into the weekend that when there's heat around 541 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: a team on a sensitive subject, spice rack also has 542 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: a separate rule. You gotta go against that team when 543 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: there's heat in the locker room potentially a hot button topic. 544 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: He was right about that, And now you have to 545 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: trust the spice Rack if you're a desert person, because 546 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: the Raiders are gonna be fired up under Rich Bisaccia. 547 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Let's hit Monday Night football right after this. Jackson takes 548 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: the snap looking over the middle pumps. Once grows hot trauma, 549 00:28:53,280 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders have wandered it over time. No, Glamar Jackson 550 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: throwing in spirals better talking than talking about John Rudin 551 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: disgracing himself and his family, including Doo Scrudin who's still 552 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: on the staff. Ravens wint On Ravens and overtime, they 553 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: were down three in this game, it was over. They 554 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: were down twenty nine in the fourth quarter. It was over. 555 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: Only it wasn't over because Lamar Jackson had the greatest 556 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: passing day of his life. He went thirty seven or 557 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: forty three four two yards and four touchdowns and marched 558 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: the team back with three touchdowns UH sixteen points, two 559 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: touchdowns in the fourth quarter, and then the walk off 560 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: UH touchdown on the first possession of overtime and Mark 561 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: this game was Barker's first of all, let's we're gonna 562 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: get to the cult because that's a stomach bunch of loss. 563 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: It's one of those stomach punch losses. And Frank Reiks 564 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: a really good coach and a good motivator, and he's 565 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: got that locker room tight. But like some losses, you 566 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: don't bounce back from, even if you're in the a 567 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: f C. South, And I just wonder how the team 568 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: reacts to that to fall to one and four. But 569 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: on the raven side of things, just the comeback, the 570 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: way it unfurled in the fourth quarter, like just like 571 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: the the fact that they throw a touchdown pass UH 572 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: two Mark Andrews, then a two point conversion to Mark Andrews, 573 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: then another touchdown past to Mark Andrews, and then another 574 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: two point conversion to Mark Andrews, and then get the 575 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: ball on the coin toss, and and the Colts came 576 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: and put up a resistance. It just it was a 577 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: done deal once Jackson got rolling. And you can't pay 578 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: a better compliment to him then he was completely unstoppable 579 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: when the game was hanging in the balance. Yeah, and 580 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, Hardball called it one of the greatest performances 581 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: he's ever witnessed. Um. And I don't think that's hyperbole 582 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: on on any level. And I was watching this, um, 583 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, as a Browns fan at some point with 584 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens, Um, you just have to give it to 585 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: them for for who they are. To me, they feel, 586 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: uh like a team of destiny. And I think it's 587 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: because they're led by a man of destiny and Lamar Jackson. 588 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: And you look at their week to win over the Chiefs, Um, 589 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: you look at the Justin Tucker field goal against the Lions, 590 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: and you look at what happened lastly, the game that 591 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: seemed completely out of hand. Um, the Ravens. Really, I 592 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: think the story would have been had that just kind 593 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: of finished in a different way, that the Ravens. Ravens 594 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: are finally crumbling around some of their injury issues and stuff. Um. 595 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: But instead Lamar Jackson And I think there was a 596 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: part of me and I don't know if I'm sure 597 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: you felt it a little bit that once they got 598 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: going for me, I've seen too many of these um 599 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: primetime games go completely out of whack and turn into 600 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: a star vehicle for someone like Lamar Jackson. I was 601 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: like this, they're winning this game, and I did not 602 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: say that. You know, like, with two minutes to go, 603 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: you could just feel the tide turning. And the Ravens 604 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: are a team that when they're clicking, they're Mark Andrews. There, 605 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: their Hollywood Browns, their star players are just simply a 606 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: higher class than a team like the Cults. And they 607 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: turned it on and to me, what happened, like Kolias 608 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: Campbell Um, you know, essentially change that game. That guy 609 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: is thirty five years old, six ft eight and a 610 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: complete game changer and a perfect signing that showed you 611 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: who the Ravens are. I look at this team and 612 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: I just say, look at I realized they are not 613 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: potentially as talented as the Chiefs. On some level, um, 614 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: they might not be as um, you know, nouveau reach 615 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: as the Chargers are. At this point, everyone's in love 616 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: with Brandon Stalely. I told you that in January I 617 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: leave for three weeks. Everyone's got a huge man crush 618 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: on him. That's a whole different story. But Lamar Jackson 619 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: to me, it just I was like, what does this 620 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: remind me of? And I know that we draw this 621 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: comparison almost to a tired extent, but it was sitting 622 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: in my living room, um in the nineties as a 623 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: high school in the college person, watching Michael Jordan's get 624 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: into a billion fixes and every single time you're like, 625 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: you know this is going down to the last minute. 626 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: You know that he is going to take care of 627 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: whatever adversities come his way. And Lamar Jackson talked about 628 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: entering into a state of total calm in that game 629 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: that the players around and believe it that Harbaugh basically, 630 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, two weeks in a row is saying we're 631 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: gonna go for everything, and it's because of this one player. 632 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: And he came into the league completely doubted, and I 633 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: think it's a perfect season for him to cap, you know, 634 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: this entire thing with a raven's journey that no one's 635 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: ever expected this season. I mean they've been even weeks 636 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: ago that he's been figured out, and you know, you 637 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: look at the running backs. They ran for like twenty 638 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: five yards last night. Had we known that four weeks ago, 639 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: you could have projected a Ravens team that just was 640 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: gonna crumble in on itself, but you cannot when you 641 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: have this talent inside this locker room and on the field. 642 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is everything the Ravens could have hoped and 643 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: there's literally no ceiling for where they could wind up 644 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: as a team. They're they're not a perfect team, Like 645 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: we shouldn't have said that they're crumbling if they had 646 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: lost this game to the cause, and we shouldn't say 647 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: there a perfect are you know, a fixed complete team 648 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: just because they keep scraping out these wins. They remind 649 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: me the Oh three Patriot and Lamar starting to remind 650 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: me of early career Brady, where every every game comes 651 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: down to this insane ending. Everyone thinks they're lucky, and 652 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: everyone can't, you know, believe quite that they managed to 653 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: lose the game and they can't figure out how and why, 654 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: and you know the reasons, the quarterback usually and the 655 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: coaching because of these margins and they make their own luck. 656 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: And it's almost like the Ravens have went into this 657 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: season Greg Roman and Lamar and they went through every 658 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: checklist of criticism that Lamar had as a pastor, and 659 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: they're like our goal early in this season is just 660 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: gonna be to shut everyone up about that, Like we 661 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: can't play from behind. Okay, we've done that three times now. 662 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: Uh two from huge margins again, you know on in 663 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: in primetime. Uh, Lamar can't win from the pocket. Like 664 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: last night, those weren't easy throws to go thirty seven 665 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: for forty four. Those were a lot of tight window throws. 666 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: Almost all of them were from the pocket. Even like 667 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: the winner too, Marky's Brown, Like that's kind of a 668 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: typical throw in that scenario where it's like it had 669 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: to be exactly on point. It was on point, and 670 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: then it was like, well he's He's only really can 671 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: throw that well. Because they're so good in the run 672 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: sets it up. Their running game is still stunk this 673 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: year other than Lamar Lamar's eighth in the league and rushing, 674 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: but they're running. They haven't done anything running the ball. 675 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: They're one of the past heaviest teams in the NFL, 676 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: and they're they're great on offense, so it's like they've 677 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: gone through every checklist. Lamar is doing that individually. The 678 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: rest of the team needs to catch up and then 679 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: they could be really special. And you know, the Yeah, 680 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: the Brady parallels, we'll see. We'll see about that, because 681 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: Brady came out of Gate winning big games when it 682 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: mattered most. And they're obviously very different physically because for 683 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: his since Lamar Jackson accounted for for four of the 684 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: five three net yards, just being like, what the hell 685 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: happened here? Thought that no one thought that Patriots team 686 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: was any good until they actually won the Super Bowl 687 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: and I he's been Let's see, we're talking LAMARX. That's 688 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: what this is about. Like, he's such a unique player 689 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: in the history of the league, the recent history of 690 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: the league, because he came in number thirty two overall, 691 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: um the fifth of the quarterbacks drafted in that first round. 692 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: I believe that was the Mayfield, Donald Rosen, Josh Allen draft, 693 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: and uh, he takes the league by storm in the 694 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: year two wins the m v P. Um has these 695 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: disappointing January outcomes that have cast a lot of doubt 696 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: on his ability to be a big time player. But 697 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: then you have games like last that game, the primetime 698 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: game against Cleveland last year, and now this game where 699 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: like when the lights are on and everyone's watching, he 700 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: plays at his best. So it's just kind of it's 701 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: strange to put that this version of Jackson who's unreal 702 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: when everyone's paying attention to the performances we've seen in 703 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: January where he and the Baltimore offense have been so vulnerable. 704 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: So there are demons the slay for Jackson that he 705 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: won't get a chance to do until January. But I 706 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,479 Speaker 1: don't think there's any question, barring injury, that they're gonna 707 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: be there, and maybe as the number one seed in 708 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: the a f C as high as that, or as 709 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: the as the defending champion um of the a f 710 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: C North or the new a f C North Chapanion, 711 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: because that's the ceiling he brings to the team. And 712 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was just it's just a reminder of 713 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: his greatness, which is kind of unique in our league. Yeah, 714 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,959 Speaker 1: I mean when you think of the Ravens, like there's 715 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: this innate trust if you've been watching their consistency since 716 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: they came into the league way back when, and I 717 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: just look at this team and you know, look at 718 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: its weeks. We're entering week six. A lot can change, 719 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: everything can change. But who couldn't the Ravens beat in 720 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: the a f C. And why wouldn't we look at 721 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: them and say that there is mentally they're built mentally, coach, 722 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback are are annoyed. We haven't mentioned them yet 723 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: as like fine built. But the Bills, the Bills, I mean, 724 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: the Bills are number one of the power ranks or 725 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: I love the Bills. But you can't tell me that 726 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens can't beat the Bills in Orchard Park in 727 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: a big spot, because I could see it. They could 728 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: beat anyone. I mean they You know what Peyton Manning 729 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: was dogged for years about like not a playoff winning quarterback. 730 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: He's shiny, He's a regular season think piece. We love him. 731 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: But Lamar Jackson simply will knock down those bowling pins 732 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: at some point because he didn't lose those games for 733 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: him on his own. That said, you look at that 734 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: Chargers game from a couple of years ago. He got 735 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 1: totally unplugged. So the Greg Roman Mark Jackson, Yeah, they're 736 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to find a way to come up rookie quarterback. 737 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: We're seeing this year what it's like for most rookie 738 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who step into the line. But it's not just 739 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: last year that he's saying that's the thing that's a 740 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: that's a fair critique his January performance that he's going 741 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: to have to deal with. But to Mark's point, yeah, 742 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, nobody says that anymore, but for years that 743 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 1: dog to him, five or six seasons before he finally 744 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: got rolling the game winning drive. Though to me, it 745 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: was amazing because it wasn't spectacular. It was just him 746 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: in the pocket picking out the right mismatch every play, 747 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, second or third read very often, it was 748 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: all from the pocket. It wasn't There wasn't a lot 749 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: of spectacular plays on that specific drive. Like Mark Andrews is. 750 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: You know, he he's been dogged. I mean, talk about 751 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: not showing up in the playoffs. Mark Andrews in the 752 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: playoffs turns into John Smith on the Patriots. That's what 753 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews has been in the playoffs. And he was 754 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: making incredible catches last night. Marcus Brown is on pace 755 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: and I hate this because of the seventeen games, so 756 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say on pace. Let's 757 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: pretend that season was still sixteen games. Marcus Brown's on 758 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: pace for almost fifteen hundred yards and Mark Andrews on 759 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: pace for about That's the type of passing game. That's 760 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: the thing that's crazy is that they're just like a 761 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: totally different take out those three drops by m by 762 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: Brown two weeks ago. And he has been outstanding this year. 763 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: He's been everything they ever wanted him to be. Uh, 764 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: he's really he's really made the leap and you know 765 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball that, yes, Indy 766 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: could still bounce back and if you want to, if 767 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: you want to try to be positive, he said, Okay, 768 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: Carson wentz Man, I thought he played well in this game. Uh, 769 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: they moved the ball. They really dominated this game a 770 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 1: lot of ways. Uh, for the better part of three 771 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: plus quarters. But this is one of those losses that 772 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: you know in any diehard fan, um knows what I'm 773 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 1: talking about when I say this, when your team really 774 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: really blows one and it ruined your day or your night. 775 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: You go to bed and you wake up in the 776 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: morning and then like within seconds, you remember what happened 777 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: and it's like getting punched in the stomach. Again. That's 778 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: every Colts fan, uh, in this country and beyond, because 779 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 1: I mean, given the Spotlight game, the Island game, given 780 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: what it meant to get if they got to two 781 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: and three what it could have meant for their season, Uh, 782 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: to let it all slip away, And it reminded me 783 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 1: Greg you know. Yeah, all due credit to everyone on 784 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: the Baltimore offense on that last possession and overtime, but 785 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: that was like super Bow fifty one. If if they 786 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: call the wrong heads or tails, and I think it 787 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: was Wentz that called heads, goes tails, it's over once 788 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: once Lamar got the ball to start. That defense was 789 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: a mix of being gassed and not being coached up 790 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: by Matt Eberflus because they had no way to stop 791 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: the Ravens on that last possession. What happened, by the way, 792 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: on that coin toss, I'm mean, I you know, there 793 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: was no like LSD inside my body or anything. But 794 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: I swear I heard the cults Carson Wentz call heads 795 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: and it was heads, and then Baltimore got the ball 796 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 1: and I thought he said heads in it landed tales. 797 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: Then I was twats about it too, that people were 798 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: saying that like it was. I got a bunch of 799 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 1: tweets about it, like you know, but I'll go back 800 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 1: and watch that, Like the cults probably would have brought 801 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: this up, like you think they might have said they 802 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: might have they beat guys. They have one thing to 803 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: add about Tonight's lots go watch it again. Though it's 804 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: something it was like a trick of sound, maybe like 805 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: it was you actually the Ravens guys say, then we 806 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: got heads or I don't even know. I'm not gonna Yeah, 807 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: they're they're fine. I mean, I don't know what the 808 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: point it was. Fine. The Cults are fine, fine, trust me, 809 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: one and four. They're just five years for their organization. 810 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: They ain't fine now. Their their defense is is pretty mediocre. 811 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: Teams do change. That's one thing the Ravens have to 812 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: feel great about because I think as much as any 813 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: team other than the Patriots and the Seahawks, they are 814 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: usually better after Thanksgiving when it matters, that's when the 815 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: season starts, like they usually improve the Ravens. They usually 816 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: figure out their weaknesses. I think the Cults could too. 817 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,479 Speaker 1: But it's like, what's the point of the a f C. South. 818 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,439 Speaker 1: It's just like as as Mark would say, proved me wrong. 819 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: But they just feel like whoever's gonna win that division 820 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: is gonna be cannon fodder. H in January and went 821 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 1: went I'm glad people got to see that all the 822 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: Wentz you know, critique this year, like he's been okay 823 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: Reich's he feels more comfortable with the Reich Reich was 824 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: in his bag, like uh, play calling last night. They 825 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 1: just don't have a lot of juice, especially defensively. I mean, 826 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 1: if you knew that Wentz was gonna throw for four 827 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: hundred and two yards with two touchdowns and have the 828 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: first three quarters that he did, and that that that 829 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: aspect of the story would essentially be buried like it 830 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: was hidden inside the Warren Commission, Um, you'd wonder what 831 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: was happening in the fourth Mark Mark trope is like 832 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: if you knew before the game that it would be 833 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: for but has that anyone ever like brought it up 834 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: to you before the game and be like, hey, um, 835 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz will have four hundred yards in this game, 836 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: So what do you think is going to happen? Is 837 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: anyone Well? I don't have those I don't have those 838 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: type of forward thinking conversations with people. But if you 839 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: want to make a case for the Cults, we knew 840 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: their early schedule was tough. You now get the Texans, 841 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: a forty niners team that feels like you could deal 842 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: with them, the Titans, the Jets, and the jack So 843 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: you can climb back in, but I just don't buy them. 844 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: Though I don't buy I buy them as like a 845 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 1: seven win team, though I'm kind of it doesn't matter, 846 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it doesn't matter. I mean, 847 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: this was this would have went a long way into 848 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 1: um really spicing up the division race. And the Titans 849 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: are so mediocre that it might still be okay and 850 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: they'll be battling it out the two of these teams 851 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: in December in terms of supremacy of the South. But 852 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: you know these are Hammond Aggers when you look at 853 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: the greater picture of the NFL. But sorry, can I 854 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: tell you one thing that I honestly affected me emotionally 855 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: because this person um feels like every eighth guy friend 856 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: I had growing up, and he's so um nerdy and 857 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: lovable and I want to just give him a big hug. 858 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: Is Rodrigo Blanket Ship playing the Goat. He's clearly hurt 859 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: in that game. Um, Rodrigo Blanket Ship if you look 860 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: him up on Instagram has Rodrigo the Collector, and he's 861 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: like a huge Lego head um and sci fi nerd, 862 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: and he does these Instagram live like hour and a 863 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: half long um chats with fans where he'll just sit 864 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: at his table and normal cloth. He looks like he 865 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: lives in a totally normal house and Carmel, Indiana with 866 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 1: his wife, and he just does like nerdy lego stuff 867 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: and it's something about him on a football field. We 868 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: all get it. He doesn't. He looks a little atypical 869 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: with the glasses and everything else, and he weighs about 870 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: a hundred and eight pounds. But for him to play 871 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: the goat um hurt me. Remember it like that? If 872 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: don't you remember our Christmas special last December when we 873 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: dug up his old blog when he was in high 874 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: school in college where he's just burying his teammates h 875 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: for down. Yeah, we hadn't. Well, maybe he's maybe he's 876 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 1: much more, you know, sinister. On the surface, he looks 877 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: cute and whatever this injury he is. He's adorable whatever 878 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: this injury is. And I don't know six one, he's 879 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: a big dude. What do we say the injury was 880 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: clay As Campbell. But yeah, so like what are we 881 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 1: setting up for a forty nine yard field goal with 882 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: a kick or the bum hit like that was a 883 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: conservative moment. I remember that. Well, they ran for the 884 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: first down, uh with a sneak or they tried to sneak, 885 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: and then they got the third and one, and then 886 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: they ran a three times three times to set up 887 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: that field goal, including on including on third and eight. 888 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: That was some. That was some Kevin Stefanski running on 889 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: third and long. No, sorry, buddy, on Sunday, when you're 890 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: in when you're in the forties, don't be running on 891 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: third and eight. That's all I'm saying. Now. I feel 892 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: like he got he had like his brain stolen from him, 893 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: because that was a very anti Stefanski thing, and that 894 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: brought us Dan to miss kicks for the first time 895 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: in an NFL week since Venice. All Ricky's comment that, um, 896 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 1: the Kicker Club maybe needs to be I guess it 897 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: would be sort of shut down. You put one of 898 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: those huge balloon things over the house or over the 899 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: club to kind of yeah, just the bugs and evil spirits. 900 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: It's the This week, it was the Kicker Club. It 901 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: was just you know, it is what it is. Well, 902 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: we'll be better, but you know my and it was 903 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: an all time record for missed extra point missed extra points. Again, 904 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: I had this right, you know, just like Wes had 905 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: it right about past interference, and uh, Mark, you had 906 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 1: it right that Brennan Staley is a god. And Greg 907 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: had something right that doesn't pop in my head right now, 908 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: but throw it out there, Greg as an example of 909 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: you being right. Lamar Jackson less, Lamar Jackson. He loves Lamar. Um. 910 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: Come on, let's move these p T s back to 911 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: where they were. This is ridiculous. But we're missing, they 912 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: would say, is the point that exactly does it enrich 913 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: the game to you? Do they make? I was always 914 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: for eliminating the play. H That was what Bill Belichick 915 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: was for back in the old days, either making it 916 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: longer or eliminating down to we're down to p A 917 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: T conversion. And meanwhile, as we saw, especially if you 918 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: have Mark Andrews on your team, but uh, two point 919 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: conversions have never been easier in our league. I think 920 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: it's in the range of like si so not sixty nine. 921 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, that makes the game better, and 922 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: now just go for two all the time. Well, I 923 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you do the thing. And Matt money 924 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: Smith brought it up today, Maybe you do the thing 925 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: where you just get rid of the p at. We 926 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,280 Speaker 1: do Power Rankings every Tuesday, three pm Eastern neon Pacific 927 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: on NFL. Still pronouncing your name incorrectly though I noticed, 928 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: and maybe on purpose at this point hands we did. 929 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: We had a we had a conversation about that on 930 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: the show today on Power Rankings on NFL Network three 931 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: that um, no, that just make it. Uh, just make 932 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 1: it a six point score and um and then you 933 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: get a chance to go for two and that's it. 934 00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: I think what he said actually is you make it 935 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: a seven. I sat on our show three years ago 936 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 1: here when we have this time now, you were all like, oh, 937 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,399 Speaker 1: make extra points hard, push it back if you're gonna 938 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: do it, or eliminate it. Yeah, you make it seven 939 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: and you either yeah, you either keep it or you 940 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: go for two and you make it and lose one. 941 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: And if you make it to say, but the idea 942 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: that a coach would look at a scoreboard, especially these 943 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: older guys and take a point off the scoreboard, it's 944 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: just they would never do that. The extra point used 945 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: to be when you get up and get a beer 946 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: or you'd go urinate. If you're someone that does that, 947 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: that's all of us um that you don't even look 948 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,240 Speaker 1: at the extra point and now it's like anxiety written 949 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 1: and you must sit there and stare at what chaos 950 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: is to come. Yeah, can you flip off Mark saying 951 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: that the whole yurinate, that's all of us. I really 952 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: like that most Maybe you maybe you did overdid it 953 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: during the snack time, the food time, of the tell 954 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 1: of the telecast viewing experience and you need a longer 955 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 1: trip to the bathroom. Do you want to elaborate on that, Mark, No, 956 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's a universal, um human thing 957 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 1: that we all do. But like you would, you wouldn't 958 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: get up with Lamar Jackson on the ten yard line 959 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: extra point. Back in the nineties, it was like see 960 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 1: you later, extra point. But I mean back in you 961 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: know when the if we've got to go like history, 962 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: let's back when it was created, it was like the 963 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 1: extra point, you know, percentage was probably like forty is 964 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: like most of them, you know, you know they have 965 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: to come off off their you know, construction workers shift 966 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: and they're just like kicking it into the line of 967 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: scrim to your point. Grad in youth football and you 968 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 1: know that I played Pop Warner back then. You would 969 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: you would run a one point play. It would just 970 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: be a play. But if you had someone who was 971 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: like nine or ten on your team that could kick 972 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: an extra point, that was worth two because it was 973 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: like no human can do that at that age. I 974 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: now combine all the Mark Sessler pre NFL life experiences 975 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: into one event. So he was playing Pop Warner in Surrey, uh, England, 976 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 1: and the games were played on the grounds of Camp 977 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: Happiness on the banks of the Colorado River, the factual jungle. 978 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: You've totally missed, missing the point there, all right, Thursday 979 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: Night Football, it's moved to six, not Camp Happiness. What 980 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: was it again? I think that was wilderness there is. 981 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 1: I worked at a place called Camp Jewel up in 982 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: the Berkshire Foothills. That you've transformed into camp. I don't 983 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: think any place can assume that that's what they meant 984 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: calling themselves. And then the other new thing. Not that 985 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 1: happens a lot. And by the way, I love having 986 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: you Backmark, Not that it happens a lot, but sometimes 987 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: it will be at a social gathering and Ceciler will 988 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: be there, and then my buddy Bob from the Throwback podcast, 989 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: he'll be there and his wonderful wife, Heather, who I love, 990 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: will be there. And she also grew up in Connecticut 991 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: and also went to Camp Jewel and her friends went 992 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: to Camp Jewel. And then it's just like, where's Mark 993 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: and Heather. It's like, oh, they've been talking about Camp 994 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: Jewel for three hours and they're texting people they haven't 995 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 1: seen in twenty seven years. No, she actually she did 996 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: um an incredible bit of gum shoe work. Um. She 997 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: found she was friends with the sister of one of 998 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: the most pivotal early life girlfriends that I ever had. 999 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: So as I was talking to Heather about Camp Happiness, 1000 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: which is not the name of it, um, we were 1001 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: we found it. We had sim are friends and it 1002 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: was this GF from like the early nineties. It was 1003 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: a shocking bit of news. So Heather is a huge 1004 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,359 Speaker 1: ally on that front. It would have been it would 1005 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: have been cool. Well if we were in London, if 1006 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 1: all the people, all the friends and family you made 1007 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: in Surrey like came up and told us, you know, 1008 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: they missed you and stuff like that was too There 1009 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: was no end of the friendships. I missed you so much. 1010 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: All right, We got Thursday night football coming up, right 1011 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: after this, all right, here we go. Hit it. Prianka. 1012 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: There she is, Preaka and I know you're something in 1013 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: that said. Hey, Yes, Thursday Night football begins with the 1014 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneer traveling to Philadelphia to face the Eagles. 1015 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, is it just news the Eagle? I 1016 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: feel like the Eagles play a big time team almost 1017 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,320 Speaker 1: every week. Tough scater early on the teams. But the 1018 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 1: Bucks four and one. The Bucks are doing what we 1019 00:51:54,880 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: expected the Bucks to do. And my favorite stat the 1020 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: two thousand one was on the plane. We had a 1021 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,240 Speaker 1: ten hour flight from Heathrow to l a X yesterday 1022 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: and um, that's a long time. That's a very long flight. Uh. 1023 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: And we and I just cranked out for six and 1024 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 1: a half hours. Power rankings words I read like the 1025 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: entire internet, uh in my preparation, uh Ford and the 1026 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,800 Speaker 1: stat that that I loved the most, as as follows 1027 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: from a gentleman, hang on, I'm finding it. Greg Allman 1028 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: of the Athletic formerly of the Tampa Bay Times, in 1029 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: his right up on the game Sunday marked the sixth 1030 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: time in twenty five games with Tom Brady that the 1031 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 1: Buccaneers have scored forty four points or more. The Bucks 1032 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: had scored forty four points in just just six times 1033 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: in their forty four season before tom Brady's arrival last year. Oh, 1034 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: by the way, tom Brady is forty four years old. 1035 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's mystical mark what Tom Brady has 1036 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 1: done in Tampa Bay. But that's stats. Six times in 1037 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,439 Speaker 1: twenty five games forty four points. The previous forty four years, 1038 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: the Bucks have done it six times. That's a super 1039 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: Bowl team in there, and some good playoff teams, some 1040 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: bad teams too, but that is bonkers. Yeah, I mean, 1041 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: we talked about forty on the RAG a year ago 1042 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: and that became essentially true. But it's like, you don't 1043 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: trust teams necessarily to carry over who they are on 1044 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: offense from year to year, but you do with Tom 1045 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: Brady in this whole situation. M Now they get the Eagles. 1046 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 1: They had a couple of down ish weeks offensively. Uh, 1047 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: that had a little bit of you know, people, I 1048 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 1: mean some concern. You know, you only put up nineteen 1049 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 1: in Foxborough and and you lose that game. Convinced they're 1050 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 1: just they're just ridiculous. We've seen what this Eagles defense 1051 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: which was very frisky last week, played great. Um really 1052 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 1: won that game for them against Sam Donald. And but 1053 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 1: we've seen what they do against the best offenses in 1054 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: the league. Like most defenses, they just they get run over, 1055 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: they get they lay down. I mean the Chiefs scored 1056 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: a touchdown in every possession but one against them, and 1057 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys went walked them up and down the field. 1058 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: And Tampa is you know, every there's every reason to 1059 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 1: believe that they'll be able to pinpoint mismatches. And so 1060 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: then you're asking Jalen Hurts to try to keep up. 1061 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: I want him to play a little more hurry up. 1062 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: He that is best in that I still hear that, 1063 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: like Nick Saban thing that Peyton Manning talked, you know 1064 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: that he said in the Manning cast of like why 1065 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: doesn't every team play hurry up like all the time, 1066 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: because it really it really sucks for defenses. And when 1067 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts plays hurry up, there are a lot to 1068 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: deal with. They are like the one team in the 1069 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: league though, where it just feels like they pass so 1070 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: much even though they're so good at running that it 1071 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: blows my mind a little bit. But this is a 1072 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: matchup where the Bucks because they're so good stopping the run. 1073 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,919 Speaker 1: It's just like a pass funnel. And then most most 1074 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: teams don't even try a run against them. I'd like 1075 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: to see them try, though that The Eagles are the 1076 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: number two team in the league in terms of passing 1077 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 1: in neutral situations. The Chiefs are the only teams that 1078 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: passed more and yet to their fifth in the league 1079 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 1: and yards per carry. They have a good running game. 1080 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: They have these big guys up front, and they have 1081 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 1: a great running quarterback, and they haven't really integrated it. 1082 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: Maybe this isn't the game to do it, but I 1083 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 1: feel like that's the only way you could try to 1084 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: keep up here, slow it down a little bit. I 1085 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: don't know if this is the game though at all. 1086 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if there's one opponent, one defense in the 1087 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 1: league that you look at and say, let's um, we 1088 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: can try but but well that's fine, but there's a 1089 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: reason people aren't trying to. I mean, they gave up 1090 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 1: negative one yards rushing two weeks ago in thirty nine 1091 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 1: against the Dolphins. And I get that the Dolphins, uh, 1092 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 1: you know, you've got Jacobe per setting there. It's a 1093 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: tough situation. But they were also eight for eleven on 1094 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: third downs. The Bucks. They had the ball for thirty 1095 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: seven plus minutes. UM there dominant, and you look at 1096 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,840 Speaker 1: the Eagles and I thought, actually, that was an incredibly 1097 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: resilient second half and had a lot to do with 1098 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: their defense. But Hurts, um, you know, like that that 1099 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: they had thirteen yards of offense over their first seven drives. 1100 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: The Eagles, it took them a while to shake out of, um, 1101 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 1: you know, their slumber. But I thought that Hurts down 1102 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: the stretch, asked to make a couple of big throws, 1103 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: had a big one to Dallas Goddard Um to help 1104 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: set up the win, and then an incredible two point 1105 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 1: play where you threw it to the back of the 1106 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 1: end zone to DeVonta Smith, and I Hurts just does 1107 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,239 Speaker 1: it all. I mean, I know that some of these 1108 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 1: games like he's not looking, you know, like Lamar Jackson 1109 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 1: in terms of the overall functioning offense. But I I understand, 1110 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 1: like it feels like the Eagles are still in this 1111 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: referendum period with Hurts, and I think in one he 1112 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 1: does a lot for you, um, and he keeps growing 1113 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 1: every week, is he is. Their offense is not the 1114 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 1: same as Tampa's on any level. But I think it's 1115 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: their defense with Darius Slay who broke up last week, 1116 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: Javon Hargrave, who is playing awesome right now. I mean, 1117 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: it's the same all thing you've got to try to get. 1118 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm not locking this this game on any level. I'm 1119 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: not totally psychotic, but if you're an Eagles fan, you 1120 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: really take positives out of Sunday because there there was 1121 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: some questions starting to percolate in Philadelphia about Nick Sirianni, 1122 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: whether this team is disciplined enough under him, if if 1123 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 1: they have their poop together is another way to put it. 1124 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: And then in the final five games against the quality 1125 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: Carolina team, we don't know how good the Panthers are, 1126 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: but they're pretty good. Uh. They get a block punt, 1127 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 1: they get a touchdown drive on a Hurts touchdown run, 1128 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: and then Stephen Nelson um picks Sam Donald uh to 1129 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: win the game. So that's positive. At the same time, 1130 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: now you get a short week. I know, you get 1131 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: to stay home and that's good, but um, I don't 1132 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: like having a deal with this Bucks team on a 1133 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: short week when you're kind of a middling, uh middle 1134 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: of the pack team. Now I'm not gonna lock it 1135 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: up the mirror test. It is on the edge of 1136 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: the mirror test that it's the desert says the seven points. Yeah, 1137 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 1: so I don't do seven. I don't, okay, so then 1138 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: nobody can lock it up. But I'll say this, this 1139 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 1: is interesting. Richard Sherman, who you may or may not 1140 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: be aware, is now on the Buccaneers because you know, 1141 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: why not just collect all the stars, uh, even if 1142 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: they're past their prime. But he approached Leonard Fournett for 1143 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 1: Net at halftime on Sunday or against the Dolphins, even 1144 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: before the game was out of hand. But I think 1145 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 1: everybody knew what was gonna happen. And uh, Richard Sherman, 1146 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: who was a member of the Legion of Boom, of course, 1147 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: that two thousand thirteen Seahawks team was one of the 1148 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 1: best I think of this century so far. And he 1149 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: told Leonard Fournette that he had never been part of 1150 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: a team with so much talent, and for Nett responded 1151 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: and he told the media that's how we know this 1152 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: this is different. That's what he said about the Bucks. 1153 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: And that's what I think that the Eagles are going 1154 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 1: to learn. I think this is a double digit blowout 1155 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 1: type situation. Yeah, I tend to agree and hurts maybe 1156 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: makes it interesting late, but Brady, Brady, this eats his 1157 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 1: own coverage now and that's all the Eagles do. Your boy, 1158 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 1: Lenny that you're talking about, he's running great is uh. 1159 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I don't know. I don't 1160 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: have an opinion on one way or the other. That's 1161 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 1: all the story of him. I've never seen him look 1162 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: as good as he has the last three weeks, even 1163 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: early in his career. I don't think like maybe that, 1164 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, being around all time great makes you better. 1165 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 1: Funny how that works, true, true, true? Alright, so check 1166 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: that game out, Colleen Wolf Um. I think Colleen would 1167 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: have been on the show today to preview the game, 1168 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 1: but now she's doing the Split Ends podcast with Ricky 1169 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: Hollywood and uh now, rick Now, Connie has to make 1170 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 1: some hard decisions. So in an indirect way, our own 1171 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: producers undermining our show. Your thoughts, Erica incredible, h Yeah, 1172 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: I disagree with that. I think, Um, you know, originally 1173 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: we weren't going to do a show, and she had 1174 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 1: planned otherwise, and then you know, with this news, we 1175 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: changed it. So uh, you know, scheduling sometimes can get 1176 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 1: in the way. But to but to Damn's the point, 1177 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 1: Ricky like it did tire her out to such an 1178 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: extent that she was unable to appear on our show. 1179 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: Speak on it. Okay, well, Um is always on the schedule. 1180 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 1: One that was a planned I always say Eric went 1181 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 1: in doubt. You could also always just say screw you 1182 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,439 Speaker 1: guys and disappear because your answer was fine. The first 1183 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: one was fair. Yeah, yeah, we yeah, Okay, screw you guys. 1184 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: We'll she be sitting with Tom Brady that that is 1185 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: something that I thought about Um earlier today. You know 1186 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: it's who which he's Tom? I don't think it's Tom 1187 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: doing Thursday football. He like doesn't he doesn't do that. 1188 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 1: It'll be like what Gronk might play. By the way, 1189 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Dallas Gardard got COVID or he's on the COVID list 1190 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 1: though he might not play, would be amazing Mite. Maybe 1191 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 1: maybe Tom does a solid Roger Tom, Gronk and Tom 1192 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 1: together right now, Gronk does. Gronk does Aaron Andrews after 1193 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 1: the game, but he won't come out to the podium. 1194 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 1: You can't do Antonio Brown because he's problematic. Um Gronk 1195 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: might not play so you basically you gotta hope Chris 1196 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 1: Godwin has a good day or JPP someone that that 1197 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: the fans can really embrace Lenny playoff, Lenny scenario down 1198 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 1: Gruden out of the league understandably, and there's justifiably so 1199 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,919 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. They celebrated superstar in the league. It's weird 1200 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 1: how things are sometimes, that's all. And Antonio with the 1201 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 1: youngest player in NFL history to get to nine catches, 1202 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: and he's like, I been out for long stretches of time. 1203 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 1: It's kind of he's been the last a couple of weeks. 1204 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I think it might have 1205 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: been in terms of games played, So they're not not 1206 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 1: just your point being that he was able to get 1207 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 1: back into the league because he's so damn good, right, 1208 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: And maybe like if John Gruden had made the playoffs 1209 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 1: the last three years and they're coming off a f 1210 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 1: C Championship Game appearance. You know, I'm cynical enough to one, 1211 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm cynical enough to wonder what if everything would happen 1212 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 1: in the same way, you know that would all come out, 1213 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: whether the information, everything could be different. Like I don't 1214 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: want you don't want to do the kind of do 1215 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 1: a you know, blind a b test. But you know, 1216 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean we we had a point on this podcast 1217 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: where we would have been totally convinced Antonio Brown was 1218 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 1: done in this league forever. I mean, Chris Chris famously 1219 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: stopped rooting for the Patriots, um for good once they stop, 1220 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, like and like here he is, you know, 1221 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: winning super Bowls back with the same guy, and everyone's 1222 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 1: just like he's the same guy, he's a different guy. Well, 1223 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 1: we've got new things to be outraged about, and you 1224 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 1: know Antonio Brown's and the deep dist and should he 1225 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 1: be different questions? Those emails are terrible. Well read about 1226 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. It is a sliding scale. Um, all right, 1227 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 1: big Ben? Like come on, well, had that his six 1228 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 1: game suspension reduced to four? And who were they playing 1229 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: in week five? To I guess that's another I have 1230 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 1: a guy we're hitting for the cycle of Mark And 1231 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: also he's coming back with a bang. I love that story. Um. 1232 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: Just so you know, Ricky, if you didn't mention Big 1233 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,479 Speaker 1: Ben in the next twelve seconds, Greg would have Yeah, 1234 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to be do we just want to play 1235 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 1: the game, all right, Jamis Winston. I mean do we 1236 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 1: want to keep going there are yeah, yeah, all right, 1237 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 1: here we go before we say goodbye. Um, speaking all 1238 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 1: the controversy, the fact that the listeners are so into this, 1239 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 1: uh it cannot cannot go to the episode without bringing 1240 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 1: it up. I mean, Mark Cecily, you know when I 1241 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 1: when you think about the Sandwich game, by the way, 1242 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: I think about Mark, and I think how he's lasting 1243 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: the standings, but that doesn't matter. He's kind of like 1244 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: to use a baseball analogy, the true three outcome type hitter, 1245 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 1: where it's like, yeah, he's gonna strike out a ton, 1246 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 1: gonna walk, and he's gonna hit a lot of home runs, 1247 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 1: and Mark's gonna run into one every once in a while. 1248 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 1: He's sure did here because Mark, I'll set it up 1249 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 1: here to your Sandwich props. When made this at the 1250 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: beginning of September, a coach will resign during the season. 1251 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Boom shaka laka. He resigned, not fired, and he gone 1252 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,439 Speaker 1: that Mark was rooting for something like this to happen, 1253 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 1: and not just that we might get two coaches. By 1254 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 1: the way, you've got it. You've got a long way 1255 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 1: to go on Urban Meyer here and not just that. 1256 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 1: A top story involves an NFL cheerleader, and yes, one 1257 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 1: of the allegations within the report that doomed John Gruden 1258 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 1: was Bruce Allen Area slam Ball sending um photos of 1259 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 1: Washington cheerleaders from a calendar shoot to John Gruden. They're 1260 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 1: part of the story, thousands of the only reason why 1261 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: we know this story at all. I feel like I 1262 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 1: got dozens of tweets people like you gotta give Mark 1263 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 1: this one, Like I'm the judge. Listen some of these 1264 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 1: things with Mark, some of these ones that were close, 1265 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 1: they were just that close and he didn't quite nail it, 1266 01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 1: and we couldn't give the sandwiches. But there's nothing missed 1267 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: on this one, Marky. That is also a winner. That's 1268 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 1: three sandwiches and you are Joey Gallo, good sir. That's 1269 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 1: a walk off. Yeah. I mean, I you know when 1270 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 1: it when it started to erupt during Monday night football, 1271 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 1: Like my mentions were going crazy. Yet the dynamic of 1272 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 1: making those type of sandwich props. No, I mean, I 1273 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 1: maybe privately I was thinking, this is totally bizarre that 1274 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 1: this is happening right now and nothing feels real in general. Um, 1275 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 1: So that just tack that onto the non the non 1276 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 1: reality of the whole thing life. But um, like what 1277 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 1: you can't openly celebrate it either because it's come through 1278 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 1: um horrific circumstances. But it has to be satisfying for 1279 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 1: your predictions. Um that were that came true because someone 1280 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: made like horrible, bigoted, hurtful comments and that cheerleaders were 1281 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 1: sexually harassed. That Greg, that's you. That must be satisfying. 1282 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 1: Then that's how you spin it. But when I when 1283 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 1: I really did, I mean that that was about as 1284 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 1: gregor response as you could drum up. But time back 1285 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: in August, how can you root for this? Well? But 1286 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 1: when you but you like so, I guess the other 1287 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,959 Speaker 1: maneuver would be when you're doing sandwich props, it would 1288 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 1: be let's just come up with delightfully rose gardens, delightful 1289 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 1: spreads of good news. But I can't, you know, I 1290 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 1: can't control what I spent the night before coming up 1291 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 1: with two or three things that's stuck with me, and 1292 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 1: then I dismissed them and they kept coming back. And 1293 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 1: the cheerleader thing, which really was just a footnote in 1294 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 1: this report, a terrible one, but um, maybe not as 1295 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 1: central as I suggested early on but you can't control 1296 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 1: what comes into the mind, whether it's good news or bad. 1297 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,920 Speaker 1: You know you're Stodamas Mark. And there's a story I 1298 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: love Notre Damas. There was a HBO special in the 1299 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,560 Speaker 1: early eighties hosted by Orson Wells called The Man Who 1300 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 1: Saw Tomorrow and amazing, keep this music pumping, rocky um, 1301 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 1: and then that HBO special, there's a story that always 1302 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 1: stuck with me, and of Nostradamus, the famous French astrologer. 1303 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 1: The stories about his ability to predict the future. We're 1304 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 1: starting to grow and spread from village to village. And 1305 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,040 Speaker 1: he was invited to a banquet and the host attempted 1306 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 1: to trick Nostre Damas. He said that there would be 1307 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 1: a black pig and a white pig, and he asked 1308 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 1: Nastro Damas to predict which pig they'd be eating. No 1309 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 1: Damas said the black pig. So then the host, all 1310 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 1: sneaky light, all sneaky like, instructed the cook to prepare 1311 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 1: the white pig. Later on, while they're eating and enjoying dinner, 1312 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: he challenges no Damas to stay it again. Which pig 1313 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 1: were they eating? And No Damas said the black one, 1314 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 1: So the host all proud of himself, calls in the 1315 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 1: cook and says, which pig are we eating right now? 1316 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 1: And the cook says, well, while prepare ring the white pig, 1317 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 1: it fell from the table and was devoured by dogs, 1318 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,000 Speaker 1: so they had no choice but to serve the black pig. 1319 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 1: Nostre Dama's new mark Sessler always knows well one and 1320 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 1: the same how this works, just fixing person pork. All right, 1321 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 1: good to have you back, Park. Here's the schedule. We're 1322 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 1: right on schedule, considering you know we were just in 1323 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 1: England yesterday. There's your Tuesday show. We'll be back Thursday 1324 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 1: with the week six preview show. The television shows back 1325 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,439 Speaker 1: as well, getting just monster ratings, a huge hit all 1326 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,560 Speaker 1: across the world around the NFL broadcast. I have no 1327 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 1: actually data to back that up, but just let's work 1328 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,080 Speaker 1: under the asopo on Sky Sports NFL on Saturday's UM 1329 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 1: same program that shows uh the NFL game shows over time, 1330 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 1: the show we we joined last week, lots of great programming. 1331 01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm slightly concerned that ratings did ratings creep up or 1332 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 1: height a spike while I was gone. That would be 1333 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,560 Speaker 1: am I still allowed onto the set for this or 1334 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 1: have you found it better. We'd rather you have that 1335 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 1: conversation with our producer. Um, but you'll leave it at that. Um. 1336 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 1: So yes, the back Friday at the Televisi show and 1337 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,840 Speaker 1: then of course Sunday night, Uh, the recap with the 1338 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 1: gang back together. Good stuff, all right, let's go. Dan 1339 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: Hanson signing off for the Quiet Storm. He's back, baby, 1340 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 1: the old boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the virtual glass until Thursday, 1341 01:09:35,040 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: will be back in the studio. Heed the call. S