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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Thursday, January thirtieth, Holy cow. Is this month

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Speaker 2: flown by or I guess, depending on what Instagram accounts

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Speaker 2: you follow. This has been the longest January in the

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Speaker 2: history of januaries. But alas we have made it to

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Speaker 2: nearly the end of the month. And listen, man, you

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Speaker 2: guys know this post football season, everybody's kind of sort

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Speaker 2: of struggling for stories as we slowly pivot to college basketball,

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Speaker 2: which Rob G does not like me talking about. Just kidding,

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Speaker 2: nobody likes me talking about college basketball and the NBA.

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Speaker 2: As the NBA ramps up for the second half of

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Speaker 2: the season and things get super intense, but there's always

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Speaker 2: this this pop after football with one game left of

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Speaker 2: like either wacky NFL media feuds or some media news

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Speaker 2: or maybe the Sharks will circle on a second round

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Speaker 2: NBA pick who you want to call him a NEPO baby, Fine,

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Speaker 2: but I could not believe the outrage about Bronnie James

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Speaker 2: playing against the seventy six ers. I mean, I was

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Speaker 2: So if the Herd has a morning meeting, I don't

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Speaker 2: go into that. I can call in via zoom because

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Speaker 2: Cowherd's a crazy person who's there at six o'clock every day.

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Speaker 2: And I'm still asleep, and you know, I hear Colin's

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Speaker 2: going to talk about Bronnie. I'm like, okay, I get it.

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Speaker 2: same thing on first take, and then you know, and

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Speaker 2: again this is stuff I just didn't see. But yesterday,

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Speaker 2: was talking to Rob and I'm like, hold on. The

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Speaker 2: not have Gabe Vincent, who is would probably have chewed

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Speaker 2: he's been cooking forty five percent on threes. He dunked

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Speaker 2: on somebody and it went viral last week. Listen, Brodny's

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Speaker 2: had a really, really good stretch, so the Lakers called

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Speaker 2: him up. They're on a I believe six or seven

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Speaker 2: throw our. You know, you guys are tired. Road trips

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Speaker 2: I know it's Charlotte and Philly and both teams are

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Speaker 2: you watch the highlights of Maxie, he made some tough

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Speaker 2: Sure he got beat. I would expect a twenty year

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Speaker 2: something pretty nice about Bronnie about how, hey, he's been

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Speaker 2: what does that mean? Just so you guys know how

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Speaker 2: the cake gets made. The NBA quote unquote saves a

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Speaker 2: lot of its best TV games for as the football

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Speaker 2: lot of games. The Lakers, I believe, have four national

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Speaker 2: And it was a lot for Bronny and he did

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Speaker 2: he's a rookie. I didn't expect it. What I didn't expect, Rob,

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Speaker 2: He can't guard anybody, and we're crushing Bronnie for steven

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Speaker 2: felt a little angry and over the top. Now, Rob,

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Speaker 2: which is a rematch from two years ago. You want

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Speaker 2: felt like that's what the media did, And I just

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Speaker 3: No, I would agree with you. And to illustrate that point,

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Speaker 3: bad job by me and you. But for not addressing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a weird moment in the NBA. I mean

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Speaker 2: It just felt very strange to go after Bronnie. Now,

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Speaker 2: I do want to ask you, Rob, And this is

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Speaker 2: love the NFL. I like the WNBA a lot. You know,

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Speaker 2: the NBA, Rob, for some reason, there's always underlying story,

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Speaker 2: and there is one that I don't have an answer to.

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Speaker 2: Now, Robin, I didn't tell Rob I was gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about this, but I keep you know, I listen to

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Speaker 2: And since there was this Steph Curry comments recently, and

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Speaker 2: we were everybody who's on Carl Anthony Towns Okay, we

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Speaker 3: gonna trade Devin Booker in one because he's younger and

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Speaker 2: Wow, So it's interesting. I just looked at the standings

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Speaker 2: Dallas's slip sliding. They are ninth.

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Speaker 2: By the way, where are you? I didn't get to

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Speaker 2: Hey, I just like Austin Reeves so much.

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Speaker 2: probably j Green, probably Okay, if Fox goes there, he's

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Speaker 2: there one, and I would I would in a heartbeat

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Speaker 2: part with I'm not giving up Amen Thompson. He looks

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Speaker 2: really scary good and I know he's young. I would.

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Speaker 2: I would move off Jalen Green or Van Vliet or both.

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Speaker 2: Although I don't think you trade your starting back court.

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Speaker 2: But I think Fox could be a one on uh

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Speaker 2: on a on a rocket because like the Rockets are

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Speaker 2: second in the West now and they don't have a.

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Speaker 3: One, but nobody the championship team they're they're a great

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Speaker 3: regular season team.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So are they Are they the new OKC?

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Speaker 3: I mean I would say they're closer to the new

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Speaker 3: Memphis Grizzlies. But before Jaw had his you know incidents,

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Speaker 3: they were fifty seven win team, like they were way

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Speaker 3: up there. And then you get him in a postseason

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Speaker 3: situation against the Lakers fresh off of playing and the

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Speaker 3: Lakers stole their lunch money like that. There there there's

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Speaker 3: levels to this, like we we kind of know who

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Speaker 3: the the inner circle is at this point.

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Speaker 2: Who's the one on Cleveland? Is it Donovan Mitchell? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Is he a one?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I mean I thought we established in Utah he was

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Speaker 2: a one, but he had a ceiling he does.

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Speaker 3: But the difference is that in Cleveland the supporting cast

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Speaker 3: is so much better than it was in Utah.

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Speaker 2: He had go Bear.

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Speaker 3: You did you say that with a straight face? He

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Speaker 3: had go Bear.

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Speaker 2: Bear's all NBA a half a dozen times.

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Speaker 3: Okay, go Bear by himself versus Mobley and Allen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think Jared Allen's ever been a

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Speaker 2: freaking all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been an All Star. And I had to

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Speaker 3: have a second guy as Darius Garland, who can score.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of Yeah, Garland's good. All right, So let's

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Speaker 2: go through the league real quick and they name the ones.

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Speaker 2: You say, Mitchell, what we would agree? Tatum is a one?

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Is Jalen Brown one? If he were to go to

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Ooh.

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Speaker 3: I don't think for a championship team. No, but he

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Speaker 3: could be like a really good team.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So like Andrea Gudala was the MVP of the Finals,

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Speaker 2: nobody thought he was a one exactly, But that could

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Speaker 2: be Jaalen Brown.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jalen's better than Inguodala.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I believe Jalen Bruns is a one. Not

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Speaker 2: everybody does. Where do you come in?

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Speaker 3: I think he is. I think he hit The sample

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Speaker 3: size is too large now at this.

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Speaker 2: Point, Jannis a one for sure. Ye, Halliburton.

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Speaker 3: He needs a specific team kind of around him for him.

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Speaker 2: They're starting to percolate. Yeah, Miami, he bam at a

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Speaker 2: bio not they don't have a one. Well, Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know if his days is a one

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Speaker 2: or still.

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Speaker 3: I think I think they're done. That's for him.

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Speaker 2: Orlando Paolo probably cave cutting him in Detroit. Yep, he

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Speaker 2: looks good. By the way, I think we've established, tray

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Speaker 2: Young is no longer a one, right.

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Speaker 3: No, not if you went on like again, he's one

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Speaker 3: of those guys where if you want to be plucky

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Speaker 3: and competitive, like Halliburn, he's that guy. And he needs

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Speaker 3: a very specific team around him because he doesn't defending

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Speaker 3: the certain things he just can't do because of his size.

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Speaker 3: So if you can get the right mix of guys

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Speaker 3: around him, you can make a little bit of a run,

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Speaker 3: but you're never really considered a title team. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, they seem done now with this. Jalen

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Speaker 2: Johnson is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hair of Doc, he's good. I like him, dude.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. It says toward Labrahm in his shoulder,

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Speaker 2: something's up with my labram and I've been all I've

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Speaker 2: been doing in the last twenty four hours is looking

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Speaker 2: it up. So I gotta stop lifting. But I think

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Speaker 2: I could choot because it's not my shooting arm. Man.

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Speaker 2: There you go, we're back, So uh, trade not a one.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Bulls have a one. I thought,

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Speaker 2: I think Lavigne might be the best two in the league.

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Speaker 2: But I think some people would disagree. Sixers are interesting. Max.

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Speaker 2: He's not a one.

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Speaker 3: Right not yet? If he is, he not not yet.

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Speaker 2: Embiid has played himself out or injured himself out of one.

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Speaker 2: And then what do you do with Paul George. He's

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Speaker 2: a well established too.

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Speaker 3: I get. I mean Paul George. The fall off has

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Speaker 3: been precipitous, like he's not even in the two conversation anymore,

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00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: like that they are legitimate. I've listened to NBA podcasts

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Speaker 3: where Sixers beat writers and media members and fans have said, hey,

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Speaker 3: can we get Tobias hairs back? Oh no, I swear

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 2: I've heard that's how bad it.

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Speaker 3: That's how bad it's number one. He hasn't been good

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Speaker 3: on the court, but doesn't play anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Raptors, I don't. I don't even know what their

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Speaker 2: roster is.

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Speaker 3: You think he's not one?

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Speaker 2: Brooklyn has your boy D'Angelo Russell former Lakers. Right now

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Speaker 2: is LaMelo ball of one.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't play enough. He's hurt again right now. He

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Speaker 3: just brained his ankle on Tuesday, yeah, that.

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Speaker 2: Guy always and then in the West real quick SGA

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Speaker 2: obviously a one. We said the Rockets Sengoon is there one,

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Speaker 2: but they don't have one. Memphis. I don't know. Worry

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Speaker 2: on Jaw.

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Speaker 3: I think on a really legitimate challenge, he's a number

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Speaker 3: two or his number two has to be like a D,

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Speaker 3: like that level of two.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I would agree with that, you kitch, obviously

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Speaker 2: a D.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's probably not.

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Speaker 2: He's an exceptional two right now.

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Speaker 3: He's probably the best two in the league. The problem Lebron, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the problem is that Lebron is not at the peak

547
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Speaker 3: of his powers anymore and otherwise, especially defensively right exactly,

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Speaker 3: He's perfected the stand in point defense. That's his thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh damn clipper paper clip what Norm Powell?

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00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: But Kawhi again doesn't play.

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Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, Anthony Edwards, we know is sons now.

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Speaker 2: D book is interesting because he was the one they

553
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Speaker 2: didn't win anything. Then he became, you know, the one

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00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: b to Chris Paul who was like the leader, and

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Speaker 2: they went to the finals and then they got Durant.

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Speaker 2: I don't really know where he fits in. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what Booker is I like him a lot.

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Speaker 3: He might be in that category with I mean it's

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00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: where they places Tham KD, where they have number one

560
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: game and you can tell by watching him this is

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Speaker 3: one of the great you know, ten twelve players in

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Speaker 3: the league. But there's something emotionally and spiritually that they

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Speaker 3: just do not have to galvanize the rest of the team.

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Speaker 2: That's deep and emotionally.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like KD is fucking awesome. I know you

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Speaker 3: and him have like your Instagram tips, but just when

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Speaker 3: you watch him play. He's seven foot tall, he can

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Speaker 3: do everything. He can score from anywhere. He can shoot,

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Speaker 3: he can rebound, he can defend, he can pass a

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Speaker 3: little bit, and for whatever reason, he lacks that little

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Speaker 3: qua that the all time great players have. He just

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Speaker 3: doesn't have it.

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Speaker 2: I think he was a one back in the day.

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Speaker 2: At this stage, I don't think he can be your

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Speaker 2: best player on a championship team. But Butler, Booker and Durant,

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Speaker 2: then you basically have one ABC, which I don't know

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Speaker 2: that we've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: Because then it's I think one to night to night.

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Speaker 3: Then it's okay, yeah, we.

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Speaker 2: Agree, lucas a one. I think we're at the stage

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Speaker 2: where deer and Fox is probably ideally suited as your

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Speaker 2: second best player, right, Yes, Steph Curry I still think

583
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: has one in him. He's just surrounded by an aptitude

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Speaker 2: at this point.

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Speaker 3: He's having a down season too, and people don't really

586
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: noticing it because the rest of the team has kind

587
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: of falling off so bad.

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00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: It's well teams are. It's easier to defend him.

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00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, because you don't have to worry for anybody else.

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00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Wemby obviously, I don't know what hell the

591
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: hell's going on in Portland. Scoot Henderson has just not

592
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: lived up to expectation. Zion. He has, but it's a

593
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: love pill climb, Zion. You never know when he's gonna play.

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00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: And then the Utah Jazz are awful. So there's just

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00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: not a lot of superstars in the league. It's like

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Speaker 2: the NFL with quarterbacks, right, we know there's ten, maybe twelve,

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00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: maybe fifteen really good quarterbacks that you can win with, yep,

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00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: and then there's like the rest of the league, which

599
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: is like Sam Darnold. It can have a good season

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Speaker 2: and then playoffs come and there's your guy you know

601
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Speaker 2: so well.

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Speaker 3: And even to that point in the NFL. If we're

603
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Speaker 3: really being honest, there's like four guys who you feel

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00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: are the cream of the crop. No matter who's around him,

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00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: they're going to be competitive. It's Mahomes obviously, Alan Jackson

606
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: and Burrough And if you play that game in the NBA,

607
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: if you're being really honest, like the legitimate superstar, like

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Speaker 3: no matter where he is, this guy's team is a contender.

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Speaker 3: There's probably like four or five of them. Jokic for sure, Jokic, Jannis,

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Speaker 3: Luca and that might even be the list that might

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Speaker 3: be it. Everybody else is kind of situational and what

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Speaker 3: they have around him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and people thought him bide two years ago.

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Speaker 2: No more. Yeah, all right, quickly, final shout out, guys.

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Speaker 2: I just ask I know we got some young guys

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Speaker 2: listening to the podcast. Just just be smart. I just

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00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: read that story about the kid in Philly celebrating the

618
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Speaker 2: Eagles win. He climbed a street pole and then you

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Speaker 2: know he's got a great gymnastics background. He falls down,

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Speaker 2: lands on his head, was in a coma, and now

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Speaker 2: he's dead. And he was eighteen years old freshman at Temple.

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Speaker 2: It is I mean, by the way, did you see

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Speaker 2: the videos of the scenes from Philadelphia rob Like a

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Speaker 2: car driving over people. Guy whips out a gun, just

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Speaker 2: starts shooting in the air. Like I don't. I just

626
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Speaker 2: just be smart people, large crowds. I'm not just down

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Speaker 2: with any of that stuff. I get it. You're drinking,

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Speaker 2: you're inebriated, they're going you're climbing a lamp post fault

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Speaker 2: and it's over. Like as you're climbing the lamp post.

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Speaker 2: Those are the final few minutes of your life on

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Speaker 2: planet Earth. Just be smarter, all right. That's it. Storry

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Speaker 2: to end on our down note. We're back tomorrow. Let

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Speaker 2: see you