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Speaker 1: more on car and shirts. Now your hosts, Danny Sirek

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Speaker 1: and Bradsham, this is the Cowboys Hour. It is not

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Speaker 1: Bradsham this week. Instead, it's Kyle Yeoman's trying to fill

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Speaker 1: the large shoes of the voice of the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: in Bradsham. But I am pleased to be alongside Danny

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Speaker 1: Sirek with you guys for the next hours. We get

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Speaker 1: to talk through what has been an incredible run for

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys over the last three weeks and an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to win an NFC East title coming up this

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Speaker 1: week against the New York Giants. We're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: it not only between Danny and myself, but also we've

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Speaker 1: got a special guest today, that's mister c J. Goodwin. CJ.

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Speaker 1: How's things going over there on the other side? Of

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Speaker 1: the building doing pretty well. Man. I appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: having Absolutely we're excited to get after it. Danny. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know you're happy about it. You're smiling over there

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Speaker 1: in the corner. You know, this has been fun for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, But you know what, work is a lot

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Speaker 1: more fun, not just for you guys, CJ, but for

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Speaker 1: us as well when the Cowboys are winning and there's

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Speaker 1: more to talk about and it's a lot more fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk with you too, Kyle. This is

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Speaker 1: gonna be fun. And CG. I know you go into

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Speaker 1: of what has been a monotonous twenty twenty season, a

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Speaker 1: lot of testing and reports and virtual meetings and things

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Speaker 1: like that. But it certainly does have to feel a

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Speaker 1: little bit better now that you've won three straight and

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Speaker 1: you still have an opportunity to play meaningful football going

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Speaker 1: into a new year. Right. Absolutely, absolutely everything's better with

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Speaker 1: a couple of wins, Man, So we look forward to

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Speaker 1: this time as we got this weekend. Absolutely, what's one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest things that you're excited about over the

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Speaker 1: last three weeks? The defense, the takeaways? What really has

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Speaker 1: been the most fun to be a part of. Over

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Speaker 1: the winning streak so far. The energy in the building,

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Speaker 1: you can feel it. Everybody. Everybody is happy right now. So,

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Speaker 1: like you said, we still have meaningful football left, so

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Speaker 1: the energy is just different. Now. How surreal is it

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Speaker 1: from where this team was just a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: ago to now going into the final week of the

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Speaker 1: season and you guys have a true chance of making

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I know that you guys have been saying

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Speaker 1: that for weeks and whether or not fans or media

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Speaker 1: it's true. It's true. I know we have to have

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Speaker 1: and like I said, it's fun. It's fun. It's a

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Speaker 1: But from a player's perspective, what is that like? Because

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Speaker 1: else in the NFC East, you're saying, we're still alive

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Speaker 1: pretty much every aspect the last couple of weeks. From

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Speaker 1: your perspective, where have you seen the most improvements throughout

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Speaker 1: it's trusting the system I've seen that I've seen, trusting

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Speaker 1: with you involved, tell me about this CJ package that

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Speaker 1: CJ package was thrown into the mix. Well, from my perspective,

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Speaker 1: He was, I think it will work Arizona. I think

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. And I'm gonna go back to Sean Lee

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Speaker 1: came to slowing down Jalen Hurts. I mean this is

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Speaker 1: And like, like, credit to the coaches put me in

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Speaker 1: our position for sure. Do you guys need um Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: a fun, fun flight home, especially after we win. Is

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Speaker 1: you talk about being football fans, Do you turn on

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Speaker 1: the other games whenever you're on the way back home. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: How important is it to continue to ride that momentum

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Speaker 1: the momentum from the three game win streak. That's what

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Speaker 1: ask it on Tell on live radio, so I won't

428
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Speaker 1: ask for the future plays. Maybe once the season's over,

429
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: I might try a little bit more. But I don't.

430
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't disagree, and I completely believe you because of

431
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: how creative he's been. Now I want to ask you

432
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 1: talk about running out of gas right there at the end.

433
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: How frustrated were you going back to the sideline knowing

434
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 1: you were just right there. I was sick, I was sick.

435
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: I'm kind of glad that they called a penalty on

436
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: us because I wasn't gonna make it. Remember, I wasn't

437
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: gonna There's no way I was making it because I

438
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: had to run all the way back there. I limped

439
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I ran all the way back there,

440
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: and then I had to catch it, but I almost

441
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: dropped it catch it. Didn't run all the way to

442
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: the end zone, and I got to like maybe the

443
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,239
Speaker 1: fifty and I was like, man, I don't know if

444
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it. My back stunt to get tight.

445
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: Then I was Yeah, it was fun though. It was fun.

446
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: Do you think that little bobble at the top of

447
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: that that that play kind of allowed the timing to

448
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: actually work out for you and your favor I think

449
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: it kind of worked out for me. Um the ball

450
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: was in the air for sold wrong. It really was

451
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: a lot of fun time. And I was like, and

452
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: I kind of jumped then, you know, everybody saying I

453
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: can't catch I have great hands. Now It was like

454
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: I said, it was. It was a good experience and

455
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: that that kind of comes from your background as a

456
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You have a very interesting background with football. Yeah, yeah,

457
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: And I think that we should talk about it you

458
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,239
Speaker 1: actually started. When did you first start playing football? Um?

459
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: You saying like college or no? Just in general general?

460
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: I played a year in high school, right, that was

461
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: your first year. That was my first year in high school. Yeah?

462
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: Did you play before high I played in Pop Warner. Yeah,

463
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: that's okay, Warner. But then when you went to college,

464
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: you went and you played basketball, play basketball, and then

465
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: you walked on as a junior. Right to play football

466
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: worked on my senior year? So where did that decision

467
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: come from? I was playing in the Morrow basketball because

468
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: I ended up going to another school and I was

469
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: just a regular student, just playing in the Morrows and

470
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: we were playing actually playing the football coaches at that school,

471
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: Faremont statedum Reside, and I dunked on a football coach

472
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, we got practiced tomorrow. I

473
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: need you to be there. I was like, I'm not

474
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: playing football way like one hundred and sixty pounds. He

475
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: was like, no, you'll be there. I was like, okay,

476
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: I guess. So I went and I started me at

477
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: the dB and I couldn't backpedal. He was like, go

478
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: play receiver, and I played receiver. I end up having

479
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: any decent year the year two, and then I went

480
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: to left there and went the cow PA. Didn't really

481
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: do that, do that well? But I had a pro day,

482
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: did pretty well the pro day. Like a close family

483
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: friend is Meryl Blunt from Pittsburgh. Still this Hall of famer.

484
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: He called Pittsburgh and said, hey man, this guy. It's

485
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: pretty fast, he's pretty athletic. You should get him workout.

486
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: No change, it has to getting the workout. Did the workout,

487
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: and they sign me the next week. I love that.

488
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about somebody that's under the radar.

489
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: A basketball player playing pick up basketball gets the coaching

490
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: staff of a college and that led to a roster spot.

491
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: Blessings own blessings mantars allowing for me that is unbelievable. Now,

492
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: I do want to get more into that, and I

493
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: want to hear about your background with Melbourne as well,

494
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: because of really his place in football history is cemented,

495
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: and he allowed you to have a place in NFL

496
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: history as well, and I kind of want to get

497
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: into that relationship and where that kind of formed as well.

498
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,239
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508
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Speaker 1: from the Star in Frisco alongside Danny Serek. I'm Kyle

509
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeoman's filling in for the great Brad Sham and just

510
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: a program reminder for everybody that if the Cowboys do

511
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: win this week, there will be another Cowboys Hour next week,

512
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: and so Brad will be back with Danny and hopefully

513
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have a NFC playoff game on their docket.

514
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: One of the players that's gonna be a crucial key

515
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: in getting that playoff game with a win over the

516
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: Giants this week. CJ. Goodwin is with us as always,

517
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: and we've been talking. CJ. I now know that you

518
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: have good hands. You've already declared that as a former

519
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver who switched to corner one you got to

520
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: the pros. But you've had one of the more interesting

521
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: backgrounds out of any professional athlete that you could potentially have.

522
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: You got a spot on a football team by playing

523
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: pickup basketball, and so I kind of want to go

524
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: into that. And you've also had a very interesting relationship

525
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: with Mel Blunt. I mean, this is a world renowned

526
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: football player from the Pittsburgh Steelers who had had an

527
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: incredible career up in Pennsylvania. But how did you know

528
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: Mel and where did that kind of friendship and relationship

529
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: blossom into the point of having a tryout to the NFL? Right, So,

530
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: mister Mel I went to school with his sons, the

531
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: Lindsley Schools, of small private school in West Virginia. And

532
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: I went to school with his sons and my brother,

533
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: my younger brother and his middle son are the same age.

534
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: So they played on the same child of basketball team.

535
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: And he was at the game watching him, obviously, and

536
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: he came up to me. I had my parents Sagan,

537
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: and I had airings in. He said, um, hey, man,

538
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: pull your pants up and take the air rings out.

539
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: He was I was like, huh, I don't even know

540
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: who you are. He was the every like, my stepdad

541
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: is a huge Stellar fan. I shouldn't say that, but yeah,

542
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: he's a huge seller. He's from Pittsburgh and U he

543
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: was at the time. He loves the Cowboys now but

544
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: could disclaimer. Yeah right, So he was like, yeah, no,

545
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: that's mel Blanc. He's a Hall of Famer. He would

546
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: listening to him and I pulled my pants up, checking

547
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: my air rings out and h He was like, do

548
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: you have a job. I was like, yes, sir, I

549
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: have a have a job. I was working at at

550
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: a playground. I was a playground instructor. I was seventeen.

551
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: His playground instruct I was making like four dollars and

552
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: twenty fives in an hour. He was like, hey, man, well,

553
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: i'll pay you ten dollars an hour. You can work

554
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: for me. I'm like, right now, I'll be there right now,

555
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: and you know, ten dollars to you know, making eight

556
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: hundred dollars every two weeks or seventeen. Like, I'll do

557
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: that for sure, and UM went up there. He was like,

558
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: I was cutting grass. I was used to work on

559
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: his farm, cut of cut grass, cleaning alls, out for

560
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: the horses and do stuff with that with the cattle,

561
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: and worked there for maybe about doing that for two years,

562
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: and then he was like, hey, we have kids up there.

563
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: About that. It was a youth home, right, it was

564
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: a Melboll you he has maybe about fifteen kids at

565
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: the time. He was like, Yo, you can go up

566
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: there and being counselor had to go through training and

567
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: all that. I was a counselor for six years up there,

568
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: so altogether like seven years. Yeah, I know I did

569
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: the man for him, but like seven years. Yeah, I

570
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: worked for him from age seventeen to twenty four. He said, yeah,

571
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: he helped out. He helped out big time. So he's

572
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: like he's like family, He's on his family. Yeah. How

573
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: did that end up leading you to that tryout with

574
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers? I mean you go undrafted and really

575
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: kind of unknown to a lot of prospects, I mean

576
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: compared to a lot of prospects and a lot of

577
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: these scouts in the area. But how did how did

578
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: you get that kind of connection with mel or how

579
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: did he have that kind of workout? And then how

580
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: did you do in the trial? Um? So, mister Mell

581
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: told me when I went to my second school to

582
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: play football, Calpa. He told me, hey, man, if you

583
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: have a good year, I'll put a word in with

584
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: you for you for the Stillers for a workout. And

585
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not I'm trying to go to Canada.

586
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to make it in the NFL. And

587
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: but you know, I struck it off but end up

588
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: not even playing that much that year. I thought I

589
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: was gonna play, but I was behind four other UH

590
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: seniors that have been there their whole career, so I

591
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: kind of played sparingly. And um so I you know,

592
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: I just trained for my pro day and tried to

593
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: make it on my own. I had a great I

594
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: had a great pro day though I had the numbers,

595
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: but I didn't have the body of work. So um

596
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: he made the call anyway, made the calls to the Stillers,

597
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: to Mike Tomlin, and I remember like doing a workout

598
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: when they called me like, hey man, we're gonna do work.

599
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: Got on this stage whatever. I got up there and

600
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: the first person I've seen was Mike Tomlin. Like I

601
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is this is really happening. You know,

602
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: I'm nervous. I'm like about to die. But I ran,

603
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: I ran some roles and whatnot. I did pretty well.

604
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: And the next week they called me, uh and said

605
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna sign you. Um, I remember like my mom crying.

606
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: I almost almost cried, like I was in the gym

607
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: and they called, and it was just unbelievable. Everything to

608
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: start moving so fast, like yeah, you know when you

609
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: get good news. Everything just moved so fast. I got

610
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: up there and um got in the locker room and

611
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: I was like, I do not belong here. This is yeah.

612
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: When I've seen um Ben Roethlisberger, I was like, Yo,

613
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: this is crazy. These are like mine. Yea. I was

614
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: always a Cowboys fan, but um, like like being that

615
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: close to like, you know, your heroes, it was like,

616
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I want D two. So you know,

617
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: we don't expect to, you know, be in the NFL.

618
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's amazing, Like just wild to me all

619
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: from pickup basketball. Yeah, it's incredible. Um. After the Steelers,

620
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: you kind of ended up jumping around to a couple

621
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: a couple of different teams, and I believe it was

622
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: Atlanta where you made the switch to cornerback, right. What

623
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: prompted that switch there? Well, Atlanta was my second team

624
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: after I left Pittsburgh. I went to Atlanta. I was

625
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: on our practice squad for a year and that week

626
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: seventeen of that year, Um, I was playing. I was

627
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: playing receiver the whole time Week seventeen to that year,

628
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: so it has been in this week right, Yeah, Week seventeen,

629
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: the dB coach came up to me, was like, hey,

630
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: you have talent, Um, I want to I want to

631
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: get you in the field. I was like, well, how

632
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: are we gonna do it? He was like, come with me.

633
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: I'll turn you into a dB and you'll be on

634
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: the team that year. I was like, whatever I gotta do,

635
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: Like they get on this team, I'll do it. And

636
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: he worked with me. His name is Mark Man. I

637
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: definitely want to give him a shout out. He worked

638
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: for the Philly I just seen him. Actually he's the

639
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: dB coach, but um one of the best coaches I

640
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: ever had my life. He really took the time to

641
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: coach me like like I was his family. It was.

642
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: It was amazing he worked with me. Um I got

643
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: good enough to make the team. I made the team

644
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: and that year we made the Super Bowl. We lost,

645
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: but we made it. Yeah. It was. It was amazing.

646
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: It was amazing. I had to ye this My whole

647
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: career has been nuts. So we were I mean we

648
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: were even talking in the middle of the break and

649
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: you were like, well, it's just as crazy to you

650
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: guys as it is to me, and it's unbelievable, unbelievable.

651
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: I wake up every day. I was like, Yo, this

652
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: cannot be real. This is this is unbelievable. Man. That's awesome,

653
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: because from an outsider's perspective, a lot of times it's

654
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: easy to lose track of how cool this is and

655
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: how much of a dream this is for for athletes

656
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: and guys like you that come from a Division two background,

657
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: what kind of advice would you give to a Division

658
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: two players, Because it seems like, at least nowadays and

659
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: it's getting more, are more common to see top notch

660
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: players go to the Division two level or come out

661
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: of Division three even and play significant snaps in the

662
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: NFL and put together careers much like yours in the NFL.

663
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: But what kind of advice would you give to a

664
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: player that might be struggling with that decision. Well, these

665
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: scouts and the staff are so good at this level

666
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: that they'll find you anywhere. That's really the advice. If

667
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you go, if you're if you

668
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: have the ability, if you have some type of talent

669
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: that they can't teach, they'll find you. And I'm a

670
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: testament of that. So yeah, for sure, Now that you've

671
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: been with the Cowboys for a couple of seasons, how

672
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: validating is that? Just everything you've gone through and even

673
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: though it might seem crazy that you are where you

674
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: are right now, how validating is that of I am good,

675
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: I deserve to be where I am today. Now you're

676
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: getting a lot of that recognition with the defensive snaps

677
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: and the special teams plays, and you've been with the

678
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys now for a couple of years. How validating is

679
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: all of that. I knew I had some type of talent.

680
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I always knew that. I'm confident in that.

681
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: Um it was just like you said, getting the getting

682
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: the snaps and playing. I always knew that I had

683
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: something you can teach, like I could run. I can run.

684
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: But playing for the Cowboys though, like actually never wanted

685
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: to play for the Cowboys. I've been because I was

686
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: such a huge fan of the Cowboys that it's like

687
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: meeting your hero like that, I always kind of let

688
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: you down, but that's been the exact opposite here. This

689
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: is a and I'm not just saying that because I'm

690
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: on the cowboy Ony Hour. This is honestly amazing organization

691
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: and I'm so so happy to be it. Well, and

692
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: kind of what Danny said just a second ago of

693
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: playing here multiple years, it's the first real organization you've

694
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: had an extended stay with. I mean, you you got

695
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: significant time with Atlanta, but now you've been here longer

696
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: than you were in Atlanta. But Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Arizona, New York,

697
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: as in the Giants, San Francisco, and Cincinnati six organizations

698
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: prior to stopping in Dallas. And also the fun fact

699
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: about it is that they were all on the schedule

700
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty. All of them were on the schedule,

701
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: and we've already played every single one of them, and

702
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: of course the Giants will play again coming up this weekend.

703
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: But what was that like? And was there a lot

704
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: of crossover of guys that you knew along the way,

705
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: and has there been a lot of reunions this year

706
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: and and film study off of guys that you knew

707
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: and were familiar with from your your past in the

708
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: NFL has been it's been like, uh like it's been

709
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: crazy because I've seen all the guys that I played with. Um,

710
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's always good. Good to see the guys

711
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: and UM like that. That that would have was it

712
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: five teams of six teams altogether I'm playing. I was

713
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: on five in one off season. So you know, I

714
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: got I got to meet you know what I'm saying

715
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people in that all. See. It was fun.

716
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not fun getting cut, but it was fun,

717
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: like it's traveling you know, the States. It was. It

718
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: was fun and you made it. You know, you meet

719
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people in this year. I got to

720
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: meet I got to see him while again, So it

721
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: was it was amazing. That's really cool. Growing up, Um,

722
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: you said your family were Steelers fans. No, just just dad, Yeah,

723
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: just my stepdad. He's from Britsborough. Okay, So is everyone

724
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: else a Cowboys fan? Is that who you were? Okay?

725
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: That's how it is in West Virginia. Either you like

726
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: the Steelers or you like the Cowboys nobody else. Did

727
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: you have a favorite player growing up? And Smith pretty good?

728
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: I was a big Cowboys fan, and he was a beast.

729
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: It was just the dude. He was a beast. Yeah,

730
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: I wore twenty two and everything I did growing up. Yeah,

731
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: was there anybody that you might have modeled your game

732
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: after early on? I mean you started as a wide receiver,

733
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: went to dB. But was there anybody that you looked

734
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: at from the Cowboys and said, I want to play

735
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: like that guy Smith? It wasn't Emu Smith. I played

736
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: running back Pop Warner. Yeah, you were twenty two. I

737
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: course he did. Of course. Why did I even ask? Yeah?

738
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: Crazy question? Yeah. Have you have you had a chance

739
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: to meet Emmett during your time at the Cowboys. No,

740
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: I haven't. I don't want to meet you. Oh don't

741
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: want to meet your heroes. I don't want to meet

742
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: my heroes. Yeah, but that about playing for the Cowboys.

743
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: Well here's Emma Smith. We don't have that kind of power. Yeah,

744
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: that would be nice. But I love how much you're

745
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: you are giving into this. You don't want to meet

746
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: your heroes thing, But hey, like Danny said, it worked

747
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: out the first time you met your team. You're with

748
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: your team, and hey, things have worked out in the end.

749
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: But we're gonna step aside take our final break. We've

750
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: still got a little bit of ways to go here

751
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: with ce J Goodwin on the Miller Light Cowboys Hour.

752
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: The Miller Light Cowboys Hours brought to you in part

753
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,520
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754
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: just stay apart, stay a part of the game, and

755
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: stay a part of the Cowboys experienced football season at

756
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,120
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757
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,640
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759
00:42:52,760 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys Radio Network to the Miller Like Cowboys Hour supported

760
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: by Albert Sins and Omni Hotels and Resorts. Final segment.

761
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: Here are the Miller Like Cowboys Hour from the Star

762
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: in Frisco, Kyle Yoman's Danny Serek alongside CJ. Goodwin here

763
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 1: for another ten minutes or so before we wrap things

764
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: up and handed along the way. Here on the Dallas

765
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,479
Speaker 1: Cowboys Radio Network and CJ. We've talked a lot about

766
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: your past. We've talked about the run that the Cowboys

767
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: have been on, but I also want to kind of

768
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: talk about the person of c J. Goodwin and I mean,

769
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: I know we've kind of talked about it a little

770
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: bit with the story and kind of your journey to

771
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: the NFL. But I'm gonna ask you a very simple

772
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: question here. How are your holidays? My friend? They were great?

773
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: They were great. I got the Um, I got the

774
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: FaceTime my kids up in West Virginia. Um, they were together.

775
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: It was great. And we got the day off too. Yeah.

776
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we're you surprised that coach

777
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: McCarthy gave everybody the day off. I wasn't east such

778
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: family first. Heats a home first guy, and I wasn't

779
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: surprised at all. Man, he's a great guy, that's all.

780
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: How old are your kids? My daughter is nine and

781
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: my son is too, So what are the big gifts

782
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: that they were wanting? My daughter one of the Xbox? Yeah,

783
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: she wanted the Xbox and my son just wanted to

784
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: play with the with the rabbit paper, so made it's

785
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: made it simple. I don't blame her on the Xbox

786
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: side of things, not by any means. Nine years play

787
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: with Xbox? Oh yeah, I mean, what's always something? I

788
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: feel like I was a kid, it was a Nintendo six.

789
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: I was about to say. I think I was about

790
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: nine or ten when I got my first game console. Okay,

791
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember when. I don't play video games. I

792
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 1: don't now. Did Santa bring her an Xbox? Yeah? Yeah,

793
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: yeah he did. And what's her name? Her name is Kayden? Kayden.

794
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. And they're they're up. Are they in

795
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: your hometown of Wheeling, West Virginia. Yes, okay, yes, which

796
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: we know is is the place that you like in

797
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: West Virginia. Yes, beautiful place, beautiful place. But we we

798
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: established earlier that you don't like the rest of West Virginia.

799
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: I said, I didn't like it. It's just not I

800
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: don't prefer it. Okay, I'm West Virginia. Yeah, I love

801
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 1: that area up there. I love West Virginia. But there's

802
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: not as much state pride as there is in Texas.

803
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: Texas is his own country. Oh yeah, that's why you

804
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: got some Texas. Oh yeah, oh my goodness. Yeah, this

805
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: is the own country. Yeah, this is I like it

806
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: down here, though. It's just so flat. It's so flat.

807
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: It's that a good thing or a bad thing. I'm

808
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: from West Virginia's you know, I'm from the mountain it's

809
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: all windy roads. Yeah. Yeah, it's beautiful. But you pick

810
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: and choose, like this is our cold winter. It's forty degrees. Yeah,

811
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: this is nice. This is nice. Yeah, I'll take this.

812
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna go outside and we're gonna be bundled up

813
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: with beanies and jackets and all sorts of different layers on,

814
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: and you'll walk out, probably in a T shirt out

815
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: of here. Yeah. I can do this any day. Yeah,

816
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: this is all This is all normal weather. It's easy stuff. Yeah,

817
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: it's a spring right. So where did your where did

818
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: your love for football kind of blossom? Because you talked

819
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: about playing Pop Warner early on, and you've you've kind

820
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: of had a long career back and forth between basketball

821
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: and football. But where did your love for the game

822
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: kind of stem early in your your days? Early in

823
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: my days, it was Pop Warner. Um, my dad was

824
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: a coach. Uh, I wanted to you know, I wanted

825
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: to be an NFL. That was my first love. Football

826
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: was my first love as a as a child. And

827
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: then uh, my family, big basketball family where I'm from,

828
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, just the ride, I gotta go.

829
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: And then I was pretty good, So I just stuck

830
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: with that, Uh it was less on my body. I

831
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: stuck with that, but you know then I got I

832
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: think it really blossomed again for me. Um that year

833
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: I made the active roster in Atlanta and we went

834
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: all the way to the ball game. Um, I was like, yeah,

835
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: this is fun. I can see myself doing this for

836
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: a while. Um. It was kind of hard bouncing around

837
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: after that, but it was just fun. Like it was.

838
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: It was fun meeting new people, being in new places

839
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: and then uh, finally landed here and it's just really

840
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: it kind of took off for me, um just to

841
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: be it's no, I know my role and they put

842
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: me in the best positions and uh it's fun. Is

843
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: that ever something you have to remind yourself of, maybe

844
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: this year in particular of the team adversity, of all

845
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: of the injuries and everything, as well as everything going

846
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: off going on in the regular world right, no offseason,

847
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: COVID protocols, all the good stuff. Do you ever just

848
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: have to remind yourself on those hard days or after

849
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: a hard loss of this is fun, this is what

850
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: I enjoy and kind of bring you back to reality

851
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: of you know, your your incredible story of like look

852
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: where I am like that's what's important. Oh, every Wednesday

853
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: and Thursday of the REMLF, my goodness, yeah, seven thirty fourth.

854
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: I have to remind myself that this is fun. And

855
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: then someday you don't have to remind yourself at all.

856
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: This is amazing. Yeah, for sure it will. That. Will

857
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: that feeling ever get old? Walking out of a tunnel

858
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: like that, even in a crazy year like this where

859
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: it's half or empty stadiums, Will that be a time

860
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: that will ever get old? For you? The most amazing

861
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: feeling in the world, next to you know, your kids? Um,

862
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: is that walking out of that tunnel? Uh, hearing the fans.

863
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm so glad we got fans down here, but hearing

864
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: the fans and uh, just that that's an amazing feeling, man,

865
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: And honestly it is I and I appreciate it. And

866
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: that's I hate that. I hate when you know it

867
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: was all over, That's something I'm gonna missing. I'll be

868
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: in the locker room. That's something I'm gonna miss the most.

869
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: After an crazy year football wise, for every team, the

870
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys included, what are you most proud of from this

871
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: team that you guys have accomplished and work through all

872
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: the universities. Uh, we never gave up, even even one

873
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: time with Bleak. We never gave up at all. We

874
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: stuck together. You know, we actually gotten better for it.

875
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: So that right there, you know that people went down,

876
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest people went down, and we still

877
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: kept kept checking. It's it's amazing. Well, what kind of

878
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: damage do you think you guys can do if you

879
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: get into the tournament? Because I've heard that really all

880
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: season long, throughout the three and nine start and just

881
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: trying to win the division. But you're on a roll.

882
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: If you get into the playoffs, you will have one

883
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: four straight, You will have won five out of your

884
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: last seven games of the season. Do you feel like

885
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: you guys could make a run if you find your

886
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: way into the playoffs. I don't. I don't see why not. Man,

887
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: it's about the hot team at the right time. That's

888
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: out of playoffs work. If you hot at the right time,

889
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: anything can happen and will be hot. Are there any

890
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: similarities between this team and the team that you played

891
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: for in Atlanta that ended up going to the super Bowl.

892
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: They got hot at the right time. Yeah, yeah, I

893
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: mean Atlanta the record was a little bit better because

894
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: a little bit better, right, a little bit better. But

895
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: they were hot though we were we were hot. We

896
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: were hot at the right time back then. And you know,

897
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: let us all the way to a terrible loss. We

898
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: can talk about that if we want. I mean, we

899
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: can go into the loss. I mean, twenty eight to three.

900
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: But hey, hey, relax, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm not

901
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan. I promise I'm not anywhere closer there.

902
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: But it was. It's a memorable game for any football

903
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: fan there. And I'm sorry you were on the losing

904
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: side of that, Okay, But I mean that that's kind

905
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: of the fun part about the playoffs and about the

906
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 1: NFL is that the parodies there and it doesn't matter

907
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: what happens, it's every any given sunday. I mean, we

908
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: can throw that that name in there if we really

909
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: want to, because it's a true saying, right exactly it is. Man,

910
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: Like you said, anything can happen. How difficult is it

911
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: to balance the thoughts of this team is getting hot,

912
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: we know that we can do some damage to these teams,

913
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: while also keeping also in the back of your mind

914
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: of you know, we can't just get overconfident. I think

915
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: the phrase dak us a lot last year was what

916
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: or like sniffing themselves too much? But how do you

917
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: balance that? We're not doing that. We're not talking about that.

918
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't think we're doing overconfident. We well just writing

919
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: the wind streak. Oh yeah, I understand what you're saying.

920
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 1: But we still have nine losses. Like we I don't

921
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: think we're getting overcompetent at all. We're just finding our groove. Um,

922
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: and uh we're getting hot. We're not gonna be over

923
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: competent because we still have nine losses. What do you

924
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: feel like is the biggest thing that you have to

925
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: overcome as a team going into this final week of

926
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: the year and then potentially into the playoffs. I'm sorry,

927
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: I said it again. What's the biggest biggest obstacle you

928
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: have to overcome if you're gonna have some success in

929
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: terms of the playoffs in this final week of the year. Um,

930
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: discontinue what we're done us. I saw biggest obstacle is

931
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: just sticking together. And now I don't really think like

932
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: dinner with success is something that we that we're gonna

933
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: struggle with just because uh we're hot. You just gotta

934
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: stay focused. Uh, just dis continue what we're doing. Honestly,

935
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: the fact that through everything this team has been through,

936
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: you guys have never given up on each other. You've

937
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: never given up, you know, trusting the coaching staff. And

938
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: you were saying earlier, you know, just have to keep

939
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: working through it until it clicks. How would you describe

940
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: the leadership either from the coaching staff, the players in

941
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: the locker room, because however the leadership was was being

942
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: done by those leaders at worked, because you guys stayed

943
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: together right right, Well, we're a technique group, we really are. UM.

944
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: I think that adversity we had earlier helped us become more,

945
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: become tighter, and our leaders from from everywhere, even you know,

946
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: Dak is still here, still in still in the locker room,

947
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: um as our leaders came together, oh young it doesn't

948
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: matter m and kept us kept us on a right

949
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: path now. And you talked about the coaching staff and

950
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: how close you were with John Fossil and how they've

951
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: kind of turned into a leadership council for you. Can

952
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: we expect something crazy from John Fossil this week? Is

953
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: that something that could be all radar? We have something

954
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: in every week, um, with sometimes we don't run it.

955
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: But we have something. I mean, other teams know we

956
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: have something in it was just we might not run it.

957
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, I could see a special wrinkle against New

958
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: York this week. You think you expected every week with

959
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: him like you get these coaches. Honestly, these coaches are

960
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: afraid of him. Like I remember when we played against

961
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: him last year. When we played against him last year

962
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: and he was in LA like we were that our

963
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: coaches were like, yo, listen, he's going to run a fake.

964
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: And he actually did against me too, and they completed it. Yeah,

965
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: I remember that I had a broken thumb, but yeah,

966
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: I told him. I talked to him about it anywhere.

967
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, CJ, thanks so much for hopping on

968
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: with us here on the Cowboys Hour. It's been a

969
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: lot of fun getting to know you. And good luck

970
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: the rest of the way, my man, thank you so much.

971
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate it's been fun. But for everybody involved here

972
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: in this Dallas Cowboys dot Com broadcast for Danny Surrek,

973
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's that's it. This has been a production

974
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