1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang on today's show, our last show of 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: the year, the twenty twenty NFL calendar year that is, 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: remember the new league year begins Wednesday, otherwise known as 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: the start of free agency. We'll get into all the 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: particulars who we believe should be retained, what physicians we 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: believe should be targeted. But first, on this date in 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals history, five years ago, think about it for a moment. 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode four oh four, and it 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday, 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Visit asy Cardinals dot Com Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: the right, throws near sight of Fitz pot Penis into 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: the ends off to the touchdown. Here's Craig Grielou and 15 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. Always like when we can look back, flashback 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: to a moment in time if you will. It was 17 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: five years ago today, Bird Gang Chendler Jones acquired from 18 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. The cost MJ guard Jonathan Cooper 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: and a second round draft pick. I would think that 20 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: that is one of the bigger moments in general manager 21 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: Steve Kime's career as far as what you were able 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: to acquire and a Chandler Jones, considering he is now 23 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: about to enter his sixth season with the Arizona Cardinals, 24 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: I think Steve has done a good job when it 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: comes to making trades. I mean, you look at, you know, 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: getting Carson Palmer, getting Chandler Jones, you know, and then 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: you look at moving up to good Buddha Baker. But yeah, 28 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: I mean J. J. Watt was a free agent signing. 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean. And the fact is that year 30 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: that you're referring to, Marcus Golden had more sacks, That's true. 31 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: And twenty sixteen, which is a perfect segue here on 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday Proud, 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Chandler Jones's first season, he 34 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: had eleven sex. However, Marcus Golden twelve and a half sex. 35 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: And why are we talking about Marcus Golden? While one 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: of the twenty eights unrestricted free agents, and we heard 37 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: Kay mentioned that he wanted to be able to retain 38 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: some of those players. While the first name off that 39 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: list is Marcus Golden, he and the Cardinals agreeing to 40 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: terms on a two year deal certainly fills a need, 41 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: but more importantly, that smile, that infectious personality, and more important, 42 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: probably than anything else, he wanted to remain with the 43 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. He was drafted by the Cardinals, and you know, 44 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: he needed to go out and test free aiden scene. 45 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: He you know, he obviously got to deal with the 46 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: Giants and then all of a sudden, you know, he 47 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: kind of had a you know, maybe a depth role. 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: He wasn't really playing as much as he probably thought 49 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: when he signed. They obviously hired a new head coach. 50 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: He signed with Pat Sherman. They bring in Joe Judge, 51 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: different defense, and then the Cardinal's loose Chandler Jones of 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: the season, and they pull off the trade. You know, 53 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: maybe I'm in the minority here, and I just I 54 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: just like his toughness. I just like his physicality. I 55 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: loved his energy, not only on the field, in the 56 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: locker room. I mean, this guy plays with his hair 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: on fire. And I may be in the minority, but 58 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: I prefer to have Golden over a son, Reddick and 59 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: I was a big discussion points all off season, and 60 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: even our colleague Kylo de Guard he was on the 61 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: side of his son Reddick into a certain extent, so 62 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: was I just because of one, I think you're looking 63 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: at the youth, and then maybe because you think Reddick 64 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: can do just a little bit more, especially when you're 65 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: talking about dropping into coverage or having to cover maybe 66 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: a slot guy or a tight end coming across the metal. 67 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: It's nothing against Marcus Golden, who is thirty years old. 68 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, I think this does signal 69 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: the end of Hassan Reddick's tenure with the Arizona Cardinals. 70 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: You got JJ Watt, which already might have slammed the 71 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: door and Reddick's face. No, nothing against Reddick. You certainly 72 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: would like him to come back, But as far as 73 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: the amount of money is now addressing that front seven, 74 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: I think with JJ Watt now, Chandler Jones, Marcus Golden, 75 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: Devon Kennard, and then of course the Jordan Phillips coming 76 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: back healthy, that is a pretty solid front. When you're 77 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: talking about getting to the quarterback. I mean, Craig, it's 78 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: it's been a while I mean, you always had Chandler Jones, 79 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: and then you were wondering who's going to be on 80 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: the other side, And you know, initially it was Kennard 81 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: and back in you know, last couple of years ago, 82 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: it was Terrell Sugs. And now you know, you got 83 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: you got some depth there, and you're gonna get into 84 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: some of the tender offers where you know they're going 85 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: to create some depth there. And this is nothing against 86 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: the san Reddick. It only takes one team, but I 87 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: want to see him do it over a period of time. 88 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: And in fairness to him, you know, he never complained 89 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: and so I give him credit there. He was playing 90 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: out a position and he finally found a home. So 91 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: I hope he goes out and is able to test 92 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: free agency, which he is, and I'm curious to see 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: what kind of money he gets. You know, the Cardinals 94 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: would still like to retain him. I mean, you know, 95 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: whether it's a one year deal, because we know the 96 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: TV contracts is going to kick in, the salary CAP's 97 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: gonna skyrocket next year, We're not gonna be talking about 98 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: one year deals and you know option years and roster bonuses, 99 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: so you know, I wouldn't rule it out. But it 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: only takes one team, and I think he's earned the 101 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: right to go out and see what he's worth. And 102 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: he led the Cardinals talking about Reddick with twelve and 103 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: a half sacks. But to your point about, hey, can 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: you do it again? Can you be that consistent pass 105 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: for us? Before this season he had never had more 106 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: than four sacks and a single year. And that is 107 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: maybe why if you're the Cardinals or maybe another team 108 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: that you're not quite so quick to open up the 109 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: bank if you will, to an unproven come out of 110 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: and listen, he was a big part of that that 111 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: Giants win. He had five sacks, but then you also 112 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: pointed out between weeks seven and eleven he didn't have 113 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback hit or a sack. And again they come 114 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: in bunches. But I don't want to begrudge what he 115 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: did this year. He gave this team, you know, an 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: option in the second half of the season to where 117 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: they were in the in the playoff race. Unfortunately, they 118 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: weren't able to finish the season. So again, can you 119 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: do it again? And there's going to be a team 120 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: that's looking at a pass rusher because now you start 121 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: looking at some of these pass rushers, and usually the 122 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: really good pass rushers get franchise. You know, teams want 123 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: to keep their own players, and so I don't begrudge 124 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: the Cardinals trying to keep Hasan Reddick. And we'll just 125 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: have to wait and see. But I do think he's 126 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: gonna have to find out what he's worth. Is he 127 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: looking for a multi year deal because that's where you 128 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: get more money upfront? Is is it going to be 129 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: an option where maybe he doesn't see the third year. 130 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fascinating just what the team thinks 131 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: of him based on the five years he played with 132 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, not just one year. Yeah, and we probably 133 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: will know sooner rather than later when it comes to 134 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: Asan Reddick again. Wednesday at one pm is when free 135 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: agency officially begins. Of course, Bird Gang, if you've been 136 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: following social media over the last twenty four forty eight hours, 137 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: depending on when you're listening to this podcast here, you 138 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: know that there has already been a lot of movements, 139 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: and specific to the Arizona Cardinals. Yes, Marcus Golden is back. 140 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: Three sacks, fifteen quarterback hits last season eight starts, nine games, 141 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: a mid season reacquisition, if you will, after the Cardinals 142 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: needed help at outside linebacker because of the Chandler Jones injury. 143 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: So Marcus Golden is back and anxious to hear from 144 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: him once again. Because one thing that we like here 145 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: in the media. Yes, you always want the production, you 146 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: want to win on Sunday, but when you're talking about 147 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: specific players, guys who are good speaking to the media, 148 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: that is always a little bit of a bonus that 149 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure teams could care less about. But when it 150 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: comes to us doing our job, yes, guys who are 151 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: very capable being personalities, if you will, I e. A. 152 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys. When you talk about the offensive side of 153 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: the ball. Cardinals also making some news on the defensive end. 154 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: You referenced it as far as tender aid one year 155 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: contracts to restricted free agents Dennis Gardeck and Zeke Turner, 156 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: and then also to exclusive rights free agent Kylie Fits. 157 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: Now that is linebackers. Three linebackers right there, Guardeck fits outside, 158 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: Turner inside. But all three of those guys huge on 159 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: special teams. So I think first and foremost you look 160 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: at that and Guar right special teams the core they're 161 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: coming back, But at the same time. You know, all 162 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: three of those guys and we've seen Guardeck play defense, 163 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: want to be able to get their hands dirty on 164 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. Yeah, and you know, 165 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: you look at the restrictive free agents, so the Cardinals 166 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: own their rights. They can, you know, put a tender 167 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: off on them and what depending on if it's a 168 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: first round tender, second round tender, and then the right 169 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: to refuse. And all three of those guys you mentioned 170 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: were undrafted, so it's if you lose them, you would 171 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: give you a draft pick where they were drafted. But 172 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: they weren't drafted. So the Cardinals obviously feel worthy. And 173 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, the only mean we're not mentioning is Trend Shrefield. Yeah, 174 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: that's the unfortunate part on this. That doesn't mean that 175 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals don't have interest in bringing Shrefield back, but 176 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: according to reports, he was not tendered a contract and 177 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: now he is open to be able to sign with 178 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: any team. But we talk about those three core special 179 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: teams player and we failed to mention Kylie Fitz when 180 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: we did our position by a position breakdown late last 181 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: week focusing on special teams. But those three specifically Guardeck, Turner, 182 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: and Shotfield. Those were your top tacklers. Those were the 183 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: players that from the outside looking in, Jeff Rogers, the 184 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: special team's coordinator and assistant head coach, really trusted. So 185 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: now you wonder, all right, what does this mean for 186 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: a Shorefield, because yes, he did see time playing wide receiver. 187 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: Yet right now it just doesn't seem that he is 188 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: coming back. Although we'll have to wait and see, but 189 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: it didn't see like there was enough of an interest 190 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: on the Cardinals point to at least say yes, we're 191 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: going to tender you like they did to Guardeck fits 192 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: In Turner. Yeah, the two twenty one restricted free agent tenders, 193 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: the first round starts at four point seven million, the 194 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: second round is three point three and according to reports, 195 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: maybe that's where Gardeck is going to be. And then 196 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: the right of first refusal, in other words, you can 197 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: make an offer, another team can try to match it, 198 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: but you have the right to match it. So and 199 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: that would be two point one nothing against tren Scherfield, 200 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: but they probably feel like they can get them back 201 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: for a million dollars with incentives. So that's the reason 202 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: why probably where all three of those guys were tendered offers. Again, 203 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: if your surefield who's been an undrafted free agent making 204 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: four hundred five hundred, six hundred seven hundred thousand, well 205 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: you're not gonna want to pay him two point one. 206 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: And if the reports are accurate as far as what 207 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: Gardeck is getting, that to me is a little bit 208 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: of a surprise, or maybe they know more than we 209 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: know as far as his health, because you tear your 210 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: acl late in the season, and you do the numbers 211 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: and you look at a calendar and it's like, okay, 212 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: well coming back in September, that's nine months. That gosh, 213 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: that seems really really quick. Is it ten months? Is 214 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: it eleven? Well, you're just giving three million plus dollars 215 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: to someone that you might have for half a season. 216 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: I think this lends us to speculate, if you will, 217 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: that Cardick is doing very very well. They're not gonna 218 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: rush him, They're not gonna do anything to jeopardize his career, 219 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: his future. Yet at the same time that it does 220 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: speak to want his value and I think more importantly 221 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: where he is on the rehab process correct And you know, listen, 222 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm not betting against Dennis Cardick to come back early. 223 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: Now he does work out with Brett Fisher, who doesn't. 224 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: A lot of players come here in the offseason they 225 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: rehab injuries, so you know the Cardinals will have good 226 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: intel there. But you know how it is. I mean 227 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: when you come off an injury and it happens late 228 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: in the year and then all of a sudden, you know, 229 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: I gotta get in a football shape, and how is 230 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: he moving around? Is he favoring it? But I know 231 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: he's going to put the work in, and you know, 232 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: the way I look at it, and just I don't 233 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: know the timeframe. I just look at January elevens when 234 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: he had the surgery and then you had the months. 235 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean, let's say he comes back in week six 236 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: to eight. That's like making a trade. Yeah, that's a 237 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: pretty valuable piece that you're adding too. Now. I know 238 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: a lot of fans would like to see him play 239 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: more defensively, but I think he's that guy. And we've 240 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: discussed it here on Cardinal's Cover two that you have 241 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: to kind of pick your spots. Now, he was forced 242 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: into that role last season because of the injury situation. 243 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: But I don't think you can count on him. Nothing 244 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: against Dennis Gardeck. And it's the same conversation we've had 245 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: with Chase Edmonds as far as can you throw out 246 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: that player week in and week out and expect the 247 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: same results. I'm not sure he's quite there yet, but 248 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: he did open up enough eyes to advance Joseph to say, 249 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: you know what, we need to get him on the 250 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: field in certain packages. Well, and that was those sub 251 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: packages they were bringing in, and they were bringing in 252 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, they you know, and sometimes in nickel and 253 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: dime package they had three or four linebackers out there, 254 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: and that's because they were trying to get to the quarterback. 255 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: And we know that the Cardinals blitz more than any 256 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: other team in the league. I think he's going to 257 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: have a nice career, Dennis Cardick. He's going to be 258 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: a special team's you know, that's going to be his backbone, 259 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: and that's how you can carve a niche out. Look 260 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: at Aaron Brewer a little bit different. He doesn't get dirty, 261 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: but a long snapper. He's gonna have a nice career. 262 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: And you can never have too much depth at that position, 263 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: so I look at his more of a depth guy, 264 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: not a starter. Yes, he had seven sacks and ninety 265 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: three snaps. But if he has to play every single week, 266 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: I think teams would start the key on him. And 267 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: he is undersized, but he plays with a lot of 268 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: passion and energy and I can appreciate that. Let's come 269 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: full circle with this conversation. As far as we began 270 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: with Chandler Jones again acquired five years ago, today Marcus 271 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: Golden agreeing to terms on a two year deal, and 272 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: free agency hasn't quote unquote officially started as if yet, 273 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: although would you look at what the Cardinals have done, 274 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: and you can follow along on the free agent track 275 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: or asy cardinals dot com slash free agency, and you'll 276 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: see two names, one JJ Watt who was released so 277 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: he was able to sign ahead of the official start 278 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: a free agency, and Marcus Golden two defensive players, but 279 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: the and then you throw in Dennis Gardeck Kylie Fitz 280 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: as far as outside linebackers if needed, and they do 281 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: play some on that side, getting to the quarterback, affecting 282 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback as opposed to what we think that this 283 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: team needs also is playmakers. Who does Kyle Murray have 284 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: to throw too? I think that's something we're gonna have 285 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: to follow here in free agency, and again, I don't 286 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: think it's going to be a guy that, you know, 287 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: you look at Marvin Jones and t Y Hilt and 288 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: maybe even look at, you know, some other receivers. I 289 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: just think the big ticket items. I don't know if 290 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals can afford that, considering how much you have 291 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: under contract with DeAndre Hopkins, but definitely I would like 292 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: to see a veteran guy be that outside receiver. And 293 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think Marvin Jones t Y Hilton fit 294 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: that profile. But Steve mentioned a couple of weeks ago 295 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: on Arizona Sports, your Newsmaker week, they've already started starting 296 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: these wide receivers in the draft. When I look at 297 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: the draft crack to me, it's really deep running back, cornerback, 298 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver, interior alignment. And that's some of the needs 299 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: going into the offseason for the years on the Cardinals. 300 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: I do think it says something to what the Cardinals 301 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: are doing, at least here initially early in the process, 302 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: that they're focusing on defense and affecting the quarterbacks. And 303 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: I'll go back, I'll reference it. I've done it seemingly 304 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: every single show, and that is what the Tampa Bay 305 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: Buccaneers were able to do in their postseason run and 306 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. Yes, it's a copycat league. Can 307 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: every team do it? No, But it does seem right 308 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: now that with Vance Joseph, he's getting a lot more 309 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: weapons if you will, to really try to make it 310 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: more of a defensive minded team, at least right now 311 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: when we speak here on this Monday, March fifteenth, And 312 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: it all starts up front. And that's why they went 313 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: out and got j. J. Watt, and that's why they 314 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: paid Jordan Phillips, and that's why they're excited with the upside. 315 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: And Zach Allen a lucky Foe two and Richard Lawrence 316 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: and you know again you need to get you need 317 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: to win in the trenches. And then he got these linebackers. 318 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: Now between Jordan Higgs and you throw Isaiah Simmons in there, 319 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: and Zeke Turner to me, could be a backup inside linebacker. 320 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: We'll see what Evan Weaver, even though he's under sized, 321 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: he could become a special teams guy if he's active 322 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: on game day. But when you look at that front seven, 323 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: and we talked about how they had addressed that last offseason, 324 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: they did by going out and signing Jordan Phillips going 325 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: out and signing Kennard we'll see about his future, and 326 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: then draft and Isaiah Simmons that they needed to improve 327 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: that area. And again, you still like to have some 328 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: shutdown corners, but if you can get pressure up front, 329 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: and you got Buddha Baker and Isaiah Simmons kind of 330 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: a rover guy, you can make some place at the 331 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage him and take some pressure off that 332 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: secondary body, getting that quarterback off his spot, and you 333 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: bring back Marcus Golden and we see. We saw what 334 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: this team was able to do last season, getting to 335 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback forty eight sacks, fourth most in the league, 336 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: and that was without Chandler Jones. For a huge chunk 337 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. 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You can contact players agents, express interests, begin 347 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: contract negotiations. You can't talk to players specifically unless those 348 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: players represent themselves, I e. Larry Fitzgerald. By the way, 349 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: as we do a quick left hand turn here on 350 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals cover two, do you think anyone picked up the 351 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: phone to call Larry Fitzgerald? Any team out there? Well, 352 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: he doesn't have an agent, so he can negotiate himself. Yes, 353 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: so our guys, right, Yeah, there's there's a handful out there. 354 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: I just wonder. Now I don't want to get off 355 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: on a complete tangent here, but I'm just wondering, is 356 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: there a general manager out there that said, you know what? 357 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: Because he hasn't made up his mind yet, he hasn't 358 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: agreed to come back, he hasn't decided to retire. Do 359 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: you pick up the phone and call lumber eleven, say, hey, 360 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: do you have any interest in coming here? Wherever here 361 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: might be. I don't even want to speculate what teams, 362 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: but it would be everything I thought about Larry Fitzgerald 363 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: to whar he's only gonna wear one uniform. He's raising 364 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: his family in the valley, and you know he's obviously 365 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: has a small minority piece with the Sons more in 366 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: the business operations side. So I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. 367 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: But you know, I think if Larry's gonna play, it's 368 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: gonna be with the Arizona Cardinals. I did too. I 369 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: just had to throw it. Just Bill Belichick, back off, 370 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: Jason Lyte. You know you got your own wide receivers 371 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: that you need to retain. And Tampa. All right, let's 372 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: get into here this legal Tampa rain period and what 373 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: we think the Cardinals might do or what we hope 374 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: they might do, because as they can officially announce players 375 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: signing and in of course the trades beginning Wednesday at 376 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: one pm. We've spent the past several weeks going position 377 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: by position looking at what the Cardinals have on the 378 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: roster and as far as these names that are out 379 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: there on the market and also free agency. But when 380 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: you look at the twenty seven now unrestricted free agents 381 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals have, Minus and Marcus Golden, independent on 382 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: what else they do between now and Wednesday or when 383 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: you might listen to this edition of Cardinals covered two. 384 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: Is there one or maybe give me one or two 385 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: On the offensive side, let's start on that end. As 386 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: far as retaining your own offensive free agents. If you're 387 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: the general manager, who do you call or who did 388 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: you call first to say you know what we want 389 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: you back? Calvin Beecham, Dan Arnold. I think those are 390 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: the guys that you know. Dan Arnold is a free agent. 391 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: He spent some time in New Orleans. We know that 392 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: they have salary cap issues, but I did read a 393 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: report that they could go after him. But I think 394 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: Arnold is an up and comer. He's got to get stronger, 395 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: improve on his route running. Obviously, he's never going to 396 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: be the most physical blocker, but he's a guy that 397 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: can line up as a wide receiver slash tight end, 398 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: and we talk about matchups linebackers, safeties. I'll take my chances. 399 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: I think he's really good down the scene, and I 400 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: think Calvin Beecham has a really good relationship with Sean Coogler. 401 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure his camphone's going to ring, but he loves 402 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: living in the valley, and I think those are the 403 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: selling points. So if I had him mentioned two on offense, 404 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: I would say Kevin Beecham just for protection standpoint, I 405 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: don't know if he'll willing to take the minimum, but 406 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: at the same time, I know that he enjoys living 407 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: in Arizona. He has a lot of respect for there. 408 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: And then Dan and I just think he's going to 409 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: be a weapon in the future. And we've seen that 410 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: connection between he and Kyle the Murray, which we referenced 411 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: on Friday's edition of Cardinal's Cover two, which you can 412 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: be found in the archives. Yes, this team needs playmakers, 413 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that Dan Arnold is first and foremost, 414 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: but you do see a lot more teams utilizing that 415 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: tight end down the middle. And if you've got Max 416 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: Williams as your blocker and you've got Dan Arnold as 417 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: far as maybe in the slot, because a lot of 418 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: the times he was not in a three point stance, 419 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: he does need to improve upon his blocking. But first 420 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: and foremost, it's just that big frame, the big target 421 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: that Kyle the Murray can look to, and I think 422 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: there is a trust factor between those two, and you 423 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: don't want to start over with someone else if you will, 424 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: at least at that position. I mean I look at 425 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: Max Williams. I mean, yes, he was injured last year, 426 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: but he's a meeting potatoes. If they want to go 427 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: more twelve personnel, you can roll out Max Williams. And 428 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: I'm kind of intrigue with Durrell Daniels and I know 429 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk to the Cardinals at 430 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: a tight end in the offseason. They're not spending ten 431 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: million dollars for a tight end, so that's not going 432 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: to happen, and so I like where they're at. I mean, yes, 433 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: you can bring in an undrafted free agents. You usually 434 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: bring in six tight ends to camp, but I like 435 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: to see them bring somebody back. And maybe somebody's thinking, well, 436 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: they need to get better at that position. But again, 437 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: if you're going to pay another wide receiver, and then 438 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: you know, depending on what they do with the backup 439 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: running back spot, and then you know, we look at 440 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: a couple different positions where they can address not only 441 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: in free agency, but also in the draft cornerback, wide receiver, 442 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: and possibly the interior line. Now, if the Cardinals won't, 443 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: I think they have another enough cap space to make 444 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: a splash, and that would be probably for the center position. Now, 445 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: there's for three or four names out there, and you know, 446 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: you look at it when you're signing these free agents. 447 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: When you get a twenty six year old guy that 448 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: is you know, he hasn't even peak yet, it's going 449 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: to cost you double digits. You go after Nick Martin 450 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: who's been released, he's with the Texans, he's got forty 451 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: eight starts. You look at Alex Mack, who's been a 452 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: veteran guy. He's going to cost you a little bit less. 453 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: But he's thirty four, thirty five years old, so it's 454 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see. But I know that 455 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: they want to upgrade that center position. I think is 456 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: very obvious based on Kugler's comments, and then also with 457 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: Steve Kim just talked about getting better upfront. And with 458 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: those two players that we're talking about here, Beacham and Arnold, 459 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: they are not a part of the first wave, if 460 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 1: you will, or maybe even the second wave. You wouldn't think, 461 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: of course, we could be surprised at any moment, but 462 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: guys that might be willing to wait to see what 463 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: is out there, or in the case of Beacham, you 464 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: know he was working out here as families here. It 465 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: certainly sound like he is setting up shop in the 466 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: Arizona and the Phoenix area and certainly would fill a need. 467 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: Though you do have Marcus Gilbert who is under contracts 468 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: he opted out last season. Does he decide to keep playing, 469 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: there's an option. You've got Josh Jones, who invested in 470 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: a third round draft pick, who we thought was targeted 471 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: to play tackle, though Kugler said he can also play guard. 472 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: And then Justin Murray, who a couple of years ago 473 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: was your right tackle and played very, very well, and 474 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: now he has slid inside. There's some versatility with Jones 475 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: and Murray. But three names that I gave you that 476 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: are already under contract versus Beecham, who now all of 477 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: a sudden has hit the open market, perhaps by Wednesday 478 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: at one pm. I mean we asked. I think it 479 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: was Cliff. The media s Cliff, you know the latest 480 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: on Marcus code I don't right now, I don't know 481 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: what the update is, so that's a big question mark. Now, 482 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: he did sign a two year contract he opted out, 483 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: so the Cardinals would own his rights if he decided 484 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: to play. You would assume you think he'd want to 485 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: play in Arizona, just based on he was one of 486 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: the better linemen coming out of camp until he got 487 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: hurt and then he opted out last year. So a 488 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: big question mark there. Don't know if he's you know, 489 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: wants to play football. I think you told me he 490 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: recently got married and so he's got a lot going 491 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: on there just from you know, he's been dating that 492 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: call for a long long time and you know she's 493 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: got her own professional career, so it'd be interesting. But 494 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: right now, I don't think we know what's going to 495 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: happen with the Marcus Gilbert. Yeah, that's the day would 496 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: own his rights, correct, so he wouldn't be able to 497 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: go somewhere else and you know, maybe you know, go 498 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: back to Pittsburgh or whatever. But yeah, you're right, that's 499 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: a key distinction. If he wants to play, it's going 500 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: to be in a Cardinals uniform unless you work out 501 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: some kind of a trade. But again, those are all 502 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: questions that I'm sure that are happening in the front office. Also, 503 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: when we look at your own free agents on the 504 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, we've already got one. And 505 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: Marcus Golden, I know that was a name that you 506 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: were hot and heavy on as far as when we 507 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: talk about the Golden Hassan Roddick discussion, who would you 508 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: like to have more over the other. But as far 509 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: as another defensive player that you hope that this team 510 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: is able to resign and retain, well, I'm interested in 511 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: bringing Patrick Peterson back if they're going to play his 512 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: own because I still think he's got good cover skills. 513 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: He doesn't have the same foot speed to you know 514 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: when he comes to crossing routes and slants, and I 515 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: know that's the NFL. Teams are going three and four wide, 516 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: they're going to you know, use the entire blade of grass. 517 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: So but I think he's going to test free agency. 518 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: And as I always say, it takes one team. You know, 519 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: I just feel like, you know, if you had Patrick 520 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: on one side and you got Alfred on the other side, 521 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: you know, staying healthy, and then Byron Murphy, then all 522 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know that maybe that cornerback isn't 523 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: a major knee. Now, if Patrick does come back, it's 524 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: probably not going to be a long term deal, but 525 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: I would try to retain him. But it's all predicated 526 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: on what kind of defense they're gonna play. And I'm 527 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: of that the same opinion. I would like to see 528 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: number twenty one return and believe in the fact that 529 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: you're going to have another Larry Fitzgerald. But on the 530 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, where you spend your entire 531 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: time with one team, it is very rare and this 532 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: day and age, and I know he has lost a 533 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: step or two. He is not that all pro. He 534 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: is not that pro bowler he once was. But when 535 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: you talk about the cornerback position, there is not a 536 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: lot one on the roster currently or a lot on 537 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: the market that would appear to be a huge upgrade 538 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: if you will, if you're gonna pay X amount to 539 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson and you're gonna devote that resources to someone else, okay, 540 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: but is he better than number twenty one? And that 541 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: is something that you know, we can debate, and I 542 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: know fans have their own opinion, but sometimes, you know, 543 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: really pay attention to the film because these names that 544 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: are out there, and I know, just within their own 545 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 1: division it's Jack Griffin or Richard Sherman, Are they that 546 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: much better than a Patrick Peterson. You take a look 547 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: at a couple of guys that got released recently in 548 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, I mean Malcolm Butler has had a nice career, 549 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: but you know, Tennessee they feel like, you know, they 550 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: need to move on, and they struggled with their secondary 551 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 1: last year. Dory Jackson really didn't play. So when you 552 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: look at, you know, some of these different situations, but 553 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: you know, and you start talking about other guys, and 554 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: then Casey Hayward got released and you know, you think, 555 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: you know, he was a big part of that Chargers 556 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: defense and bringing Brandon Staley, you know, they mister one 557 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: of the better players than Derwin James last year. But 558 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: when I look at the defense and I know they 559 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: got some youth there, but be interested to see what 560 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: they do with Angelo Blackson and Corey Peters. Now, you know, 561 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: Peter's obviously getting along in the tooth. I think you 562 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 1: and I think he's a great veteran guy. But this 563 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: team's trying to win games and they're trying to get younger. 564 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: In the addition of Watt, who's going to play a 565 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: lot more snaps than your normal defensive tackle. But I'd 566 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: be curious to see about Blackson. I thought he was 567 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: an underrated play last year. Yeah, I liked what he 568 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: was able to bring. He was able to bring because 569 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: you remember he arrived and all of a sudden was 570 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: playing that Sunday, made an impact play and you're like, wait, 571 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: who's this guy? He just got here. But that was 572 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: a credit to him as far as what is able 573 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: to do. Played in all sixteen games, started nine of them, 574 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: two and a half sacks, eight quarterback hits. Yes, a 575 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: name that you're probably not going to see this week 576 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: or next week, but again you're talking about that second 577 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: and third wave. Personally, A big fan of Corey Peters. 578 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: I like what he's able to do on and off 579 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: the field. But when you're coming off orn acl, what 580 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: do you have left? I'm sure he still wants to play. 581 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: And then the Model Pecco another one of those veterans 582 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: who I think might be one of those guys that 583 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: you wait until training camp or even when the season begins, 584 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: because I don't know how much of an interest there 585 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: was in him playing last season. Before the Cardinals picked 586 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: up the phone and gave him a call, he did 587 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: say he had other teams, but he was looking for 588 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: the right fit. And when you're waiting that long last year, 589 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: there's no reason to think that he's gonna say and 590 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: sign right now. When you can just wait and still 591 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: go in there and be effective for a limited number 592 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: of snaps. It was I think it was more about injuries. 593 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: You lose Corey Peters, Jordan Phillips, you know, Zach Allen 594 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: was in and out, even though he did play fourteen games. 595 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: You really don't want to put that load on your 596 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: young defensive tackles. So yeah, I mean, I just look 597 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: at it. You know, I don't know if there's a 598 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: spot for him, and then you know, if he takes 599 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: a one year deal somewhere else, going to move his family. 600 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 1: Is he a guy? But when it comes to Pecco, 601 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: I just think you can sign a guy like that 602 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: in September or late August if you've got an injury 603 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: at that position. I don't think he's a priority at all. No, 604 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so either. But he was certainly very 605 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: very good playing those six games for the Cardinals, because, 606 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: as you said, it certainly filled a need. Speaking of need, 607 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: the number of needs that this team has to address 608 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: not come draft time, but here in free agency again, 609 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: we're in the midst of legal tampering. Though by the 610 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: looks of it, there are some teams that are little 611 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: bit more active than others as stories and news breaks. 612 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: But again I'm focusing on Wednesday at one pm when 613 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: teams can make the official announcement because we've seen in 614 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: the past where things fall apart on the eleventh hour 615 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: or agreed to and then all of a sudden, you 616 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: got to pass that physical and something pops up, and 617 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're back on the market 618 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: and the team is looking forward to fill that need 619 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: once again. So pay particular attention burd game when you 620 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: it's agreed to terms, yes, but then you got to 621 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: kind of wait until you officially signed that contract before 622 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: deals official. Prime example, Anthony Barr signed with the Jets, 623 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: got cold feet, they went back to Minnesota. We've seen 624 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: that a couple of times of the last and everybody 625 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: feels it feels physical, then all of a sudden that 626 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: trade or that he goes back into the market. So yeah, 627 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's going to be fluid, and I think 628 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: the Cardinals definitely have a game plan and I think 629 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: they can afford another big ticket item if they choose to. 630 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: And then you know, we haven't really talked about this, 631 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: and I know they're bigger fish to fire right now, 632 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: but at some point are they going to sit down 633 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: with Chandler Jones and try to give him an extension? 634 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: Considering his cap numbers twenty million this year, fifteen base 635 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: and then a previous signing bonus. You can lower that 636 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: cap number and extend him, and you can also give 637 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: him some option years where he maybe gets a two 638 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: or three year deal. He's coming off an injury, but 639 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: it's not an acl or an achilles, it's more of 640 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: an upper body, so it'd be interesting to see. You 641 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: don't have to do that now unless you feel like 642 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: there's other free agents out there, but it's something I 643 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: think they would consider. Once the dust settles a little bit, 644 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: you free up money now to bandwidth, and then you 645 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: give Chandler Jones some security EO off your Jones. Do 646 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: you look and see what the market is for edge 647 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: rushers and say, you know what, with the cap expected 648 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: to go up after twenty twenty one, I'm going to 649 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: bet on myself, hit the market and then see what 650 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm really worth. Yet, at the same time, you're in 651 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: your early thirties. Just what kind of a market is 652 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: there for pass rusher at that age? And I say that, 653 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: and then JJ Watt comes around and gets two years 654 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: twenty eight million from the Arizona Cardinals, with incentives to 655 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: boost that up to as much as thirty one million dollars. 656 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: So I think there's always a market for guys they 657 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback, especially if you're effective and 658 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: very good at it. And we know Chandler Jones is 659 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: very good at getting to the quarterback. The other needs 660 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: though that this team has. All Right, let's say, yes, 661 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: money is something you have to pay attention to, but 662 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: you brought it up another big ticket item. What is 663 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: that big ticket item without saying names or if you 664 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: want to toss out a couple of names, but maybe 665 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: the position that you believe that this team will look 666 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: at for that big ticket item center. Okay, and again 667 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: Corey Lindsay's gonna have plenty of options out there. I 668 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: mean the fact that Aaron Rodgers was disappointed after the 669 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game to where they weren't going to be 670 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: able to retain him, and then did he get Aaron 671 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: Jones done, which he was going to be a heavy 672 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: ticket at him in the open market, you know, but 673 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: it's going to cost you. But he's young, and you 674 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: want to protect Kyler Murray and then there's a few 675 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: other guys. Again, I think when it comes to Lindsay, 676 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: he's going to have a market out there for him, 677 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: and hopefully the Cardinals are in that market because it 678 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: would be an instant upgrade. And he's only what twenty 679 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: six years old, and then you can check that box 680 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: for the next few years twenty nine Lindsley. But the 681 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: big thing is is he does not make mental mistakes 682 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. He's not penalized, and I think 683 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: at that position, especially a veteran, that's where I would 684 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: go more someone with a resume versus someone that's brand new. 685 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: And you know, you say what you want about a Q. Shipley, 686 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: and a lot of people did as far as knocking, 687 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: whether it was his size or the length of his arms. 688 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: But you need guys that know what they're doing, not 689 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: just snapping the ball, but able to recognize defenses and 690 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: then just play mistake free. Don't put the offense in 691 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: position to where you're playing from behind the sticks. I 692 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: think it's safe to say that a Q. Shipley was 693 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: the glue of that offensive line and they won and 694 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: I was behind it initially where getting younger and more physical, 695 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: but Shipley had respect in that locker room, and he 696 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: was a tough guy and he didn't back down from 697 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald that Fletcher Cox. I mean, he stuck his 698 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: nose in there. And yes, he wasn't the most athletic guy. 699 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: Looked like a bowling ball, but you could see he 700 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: had a rustling background where once he gets his hands 701 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: on you. And there's a reason why the Buccaneers brought 702 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: him in. Obviously the familiarity with BA and you know 703 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: Carol Goodwin and left Witch. But you know he ended 704 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: up on an ir. But those are the guys that 705 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: you know when you get to November and December, they're 706 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: they're the best options where they have experience versus trying 707 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: to lean on a young guy. And if you're out 708 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: of the race, you do that, but when you're in 709 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: the race. But I can say sit here today, Craig 710 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: and say he was the clue of that offense two 711 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: years ago. You look and you hear that younger more athletic. 712 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: We want to go younger, We want to get more 713 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: athletic at certain positions, and yeah, that works to a 714 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: certain extent, but there's something to be said about experience 715 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: at the professional level, and it might cost you a 716 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: little bit more money, but I do think it's worth 717 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: it certain positions, certain players who you can rely on 718 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: to be available on Sundays. That is something that's I 719 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: think the give and take. You know, when you're looking 720 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: at this pie that you always like to say, is 721 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: this is how much we have to spend. Well, where 722 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: do we spend it wisely? And sometimes it is the 723 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: following year or the year after that, you know what, 724 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: we had something and we let it get away. Well, 725 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: we know they're paying DJ Humphreys good money. We know 726 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: Pew whether it could be his last year based on 727 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: his numbers, but he's coming off a very good season. 728 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: Justin Murray, he's got a two year contract. He's not 729 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: making a ton. Josh Jones is a third round pick, 730 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: he's not making a ton. Marcus Gilbert is probably you know, 731 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: maybe one two three million type guy if he wants 732 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: to come back. So you can invest in the offensive 733 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: line at the center position, and you can justify it 734 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: where you know Murray. You know, is Murray the future 735 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: right tackle or right guard? Well that could be Josh 736 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: Jones based on what we're here and so, and you 737 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: got his contract for the next four years. So you know, 738 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: again when I say a position of spending, yes, you're 739 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: paying Pew and Humphrey's, you know, a good portion. But 740 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: they earned it and they played well last year. That 741 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: left side was one of the strengths of the Cardinals team. 742 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: And now you got to figure out what you want 743 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: to do at right guard and right tackle. But I 744 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: believe those guys could be on the roster right now 745 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: and then you had a center. I think things will 746 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: settle down a little bit. And I think that's where 747 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: Sean Coogler is going to make his mark more eleven 748 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: and twelve personnel, meaning let's go big and let's be 749 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: physical at the line of scrimmage. Positions of need here 750 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: two days before the start of the new league year. 751 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: On the defensive side, it's cornerback. On the offensive side, 752 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 1: it's the interior of the offensive line, maybe right tackle. 753 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: And then a playmaker, a wide receiver, a number two 754 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: or number three, or just someone that is reliable can 755 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: catch the ball make defenders miss. And I think that 756 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 1: is first and foremost that Yeah, you protect Kyle the Murray, 757 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: so he has time to throw too, but who else 758 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: does he have to throw too? If your name is 759 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: not DeAndre Hopkins. Good point, and you know I say that, 760 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: I say they need to get more of a veteran guy. 761 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: They have a lot of young guys on that roster. 762 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: And then we turn around and how much is it 763 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: going to cost you for Marvin Jones a t Y Hilton. 764 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: You know, I'm probably missing someone out there. But you know, 765 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster, he's entering a free agent. He's telling 766 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: people he's not going back to Pittsburgh. What does he 767 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: a slack guy or see a guy that can take 768 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: the top off the defense. So we look at t 769 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: Y Hilton and Marvin Jones. But again, you look at 770 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: the draft and you own those rights for four or 771 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: five years. But I just think they have enough now 772 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 1: if Larry comes back, that the numbers will will reflect 773 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: a little bit different because of his age. But I 774 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: want to get a veteran in there. But again, if 775 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 1: they feel like, you know what, these guys are asking 776 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: for too much money, then I think that they're gonna 777 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: have to address it in the draft. Could you slide 778 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: someone in as a slot and move Christian Kirk to 779 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: the outside, and then now all of a sudden, you've 780 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: got a bottleneck on the inside with whomever that new 781 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: person is, and Andy Isabella a, Keyshawn Johnson and maybe 782 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: number eleven returns as well. But Christian Kirk might be 783 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: the wild card in here. Where is he best fit? 784 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: And then you feel where he doesn't fit. If you 785 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: believe he's a slot, then you need an outside guy. 786 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: If you believe he could be better in the outside 787 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: than you find someone who could be on the inside. 788 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: I think he's shown flashes on the outside. I mean, 789 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: we've seen some deep passes from Kyler Murray. I want 790 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: to go back to that forty nine Ers game. I 791 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: go back to the Bucks games. He's had sixty five 792 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: seven yard touchdowns. I just think he's more of a 793 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: slot guy. I want to see him worth the sticks. 794 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: I want to see him run those crossing routes. You know, 795 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: I haven't I'm a big fan of the bubble screen. 796 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: But you know, teams obviously they're loading up at the 797 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: liner scrimmage, so if you don't get that at first block, 798 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: then that becomes almost a negative play. And I also 799 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: thinks to extended run play. But I think he's more 800 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 1: of a slot guy. They got to get somebody opposite 801 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: a hop that can take the top off the defense. 802 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: And again he's showing flashes there, but there's a long 803 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: gam and in filary does return. You still got Larry there, 804 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: you still got Christian Kirk there, and you got any 805 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: Gisabelle and now Keyshawn Johnson. To me, he'd be your 806 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: depth as an outside guy. But I want to upgrade 807 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: that outside position. You want someone who can occupy some 808 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: time and some space of an opposing defense because guys 809 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: I think are cheating over towards DeAndre Hopkins, whether it's 810 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: a double team or someone over the top. But if 811 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 1: you have a true number two that you can't ignore 812 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: or play off of, then I think that will open 813 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: things up a little bit more for Hopkins. I mean, 814 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. And the fact that we 815 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: got a chance to see him move around late in 816 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: the year. That's gonna be big because they figured it out. 817 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: Teams figured it out. Okay, we're just gonna line up 818 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: and we'll put us maybe a safety over the top 819 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: because he's not gonna win with speed, but his uncanny 820 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: ability to track the ball and listen, A lot of 821 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: those catches were in traffic. I mean two or three 822 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 1: guys draped on him. We're all gonna remember the Hell 823 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: Murray play. It's under at a State Farm Stadium. But 824 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: I mean by moving him around now he can take 825 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: that slant pass for a seven yard pass and runoff 826 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,919 Speaker 1: fifteen to eighteen yards. He's really good yards after catch, 827 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: So I think it would settle the offense down if 828 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: you got another guy on the outside and allow Hopkins 829 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: to do his thing, because we know he's gonna get 830 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: targeted twelve to fourteen times, probably on average, at least 831 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: over ten a game. That's been the average all year. 832 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: We've talked about Hopkins's numbers, and people know that he 833 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: was a top five guy as far as targets, receptions, 834 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: receiving yards. But when you needed someone to make a play, 835 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: gain a first down, move the sticks, it was nine 836 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: times on a ten and DeAndre Hopkins he had seventy 837 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: five catches that resulted in a first down. He finished 838 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: with one hundred and fifteen total catches. So yes, he 839 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: was very effective, and you hope you can find someone similar. 840 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: You're not looking for another DeAndre Hopkins, but someone similar 841 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: on the other side that certainly can help this offense 842 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: move the football up and down and get more wins. 843 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: Than we saw a year ago. Again you can follow along. 844 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: The free agency tracker is up and live on easy 845 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com slash free Agency. Who have the Cardinals added, 846 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: who have they retained? And then of course the other 847 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents where they might be headed if they 848 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: are not back in a Cardinals uniform. And we invite 849 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: you to update to the latest version of the Cardinals 850 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: mobile app today. That way you can get everything in 851 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: the palm of your hand. The update features and all 852 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: new redesign home screen experience. Visit asy cardinals dot com 853 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: slash app four more before we call it a show. 854 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: Here on this Monday edition of Cardinals Cover two presented 855 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: by Hunday probab partner of the Arizona Cardinals. This notes 856 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals and State Farm Stadium. And I know 857 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: on Sunday you had an opportunity to volunteer as far 858 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 1: as the COVID nineteen vaccine, but State Farm Stadium earlier 859 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: on Monday Eclipse the half million mark five hundred thousand 860 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: doses of the COVID nineteen vaccine have been distributed at 861 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium. It is the site that has become 862 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: the model not only for everywhere else in the state 863 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: of Arizona, but throughout the country. When you have the 864 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: president and vice president doing virtual tours, that says something 865 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: nine thousand vaccines every twenty four hours or one shot 866 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: every ten seconds. And you were out there on Sunday volunteering, 867 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 1: and by all accounts, it has become a very smooth process. 868 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: I can't say enough. I mean, I know there's seventeen 869 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: teams right now that are opening up their NFL facilities, 870 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals started on January eleventh, and here they 871 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: hit the over five hundred thousand shots. I was thoroughly impressed. 872 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: I mean, everything was so organized, and as you pointed out, 873 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: it's the model for other cities in countries. I mean 874 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: you could say it's one of the best in the 875 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: world right now, just Away and Craig, it was so 876 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: refreshing yesterday when I was getting a chance to volunteer, 877 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 1: seeing the kids and there. When I say kids, they're 878 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: probably twenty five thirty years old, taking their parents there 879 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: and getting their second shot. And I've told you before 880 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,720 Speaker 1: the show, I had to ask somebody their day of birth, 881 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: and you know that's not probably the best thing to 882 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: do it as a female, but some of these ladies 883 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: were giving me nineteen thirty four, nineteen thirty seven, nineteen 884 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: thirty nine, and they were getting their second shot and 885 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: their kids were taking them there. I mean it just 886 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean you leave there and you're like, this is 887 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: this is awesome, man. I mean, because we went through 888 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: this pandemic for a year and here we are a 889 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: year later and you could see maybe a little light 890 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: at the hunt A tunnel. But I was thoroughly impressed 891 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: the operation, how nice people were, and so props to 892 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: the organization, Props to the volunteers because they've made a difference. 893 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, you know, I talked to people that 894 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: I told them I volunteer, and they said I was 895 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: out there and I can't believe how nice everyone is. 896 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: This guy said, I'm a nurse in New Jersey. I've 897 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: done two days of giving vaccines, both days eighty shots. 898 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: What nice people were actually nice to meet and compare 899 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: working to my normal job. Pass it on to the 900 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: nurses because they're the one given the shots. It has 901 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: been a collaborative efforts among many, many groups. But to 902 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: hear all of these stories and props for you out 903 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: there spending part of your Sunday a good portion of 904 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: your Sunday out at State Farm Stadium helping get people vaccinated. 905 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: Quoting Cardinals owner Michael Bidwell, there have been many great 906 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: events at State Farm Stadium, but the most important one 907 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: might be ensuring everyone's health and safety and quotes. And 908 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: I could not agree with that more from Michael Bidwell. Also, 909 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: Quentin Harris was out there volunteering. He was there at 910 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 1: six am. You know the shifts are, you know, eight hours, 911 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: shift six to two, two to ten and then ten 912 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: to six. And I'll tell you, Craig, when I got 913 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: out there at like five am, because you get a 914 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: little bit of orientation, you got to figure out what 915 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: you gotta do. It was a little chilly. It was 916 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: a little chilly until that sun came up. But again, 917 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,439 Speaker 1: they feed you lunch, you get breaks. I mean there's 918 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: water and gatorade everywhere. So again I'm I I knew 919 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: what the numbers were, but when you get a chance 920 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: to see it, you're thinking, wow, this is very important. 921 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: And I agree with Michael. There's been a lot of 922 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: great events here. We know Super Bowl's final fours are 923 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: excuse me, national championship game. But from an important side, 924 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: it's a no brainer. How many lives they possibly could 925 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 1: save here, Yeah, tip the cap to all of the volunteers, 926 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: including my co host here Mike Jarecki. And on that note, 927 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: we will put a little on this edition of Cardinals 928 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: Covered two presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 929 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Joe alma Andro. 930 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: For Mike Jarecki, I'm craig Rio, Lou. We'll talk to 931 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 1: you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.