1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Look, you gotta picture on a team. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 2: The pictures ain't tomorrow. I don't want to come me 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 2: to down. 4 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 3: Tell me about ahead tomorrow? 5 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 4: What time? 6 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 5: What time? 7 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 4: What time? 8 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling me. 9 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Who's stretching a sen Oh it's not stretching. 10 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 3: I like you're Ron Ananian. The up two fifty thirty 11 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 3: thousand miles, the rear end fluid, the gur oil that 12 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: came out of this truck. It was smoked. I mean, 13 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: there's no other way to say it. It was discolored, 14 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 3: it was thin, it was beat up. 15 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 5: Means I'm ready say today, look me a me. 16 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: Now, that's the first thing you've said, right, I don't 17 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: even know what I'm talking about. Old's time the car Doctor. 18 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: You know you're looking at Toyota's. Are you considering anything 19 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: else in terms of a new car purchase? 20 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: No, it's just twelve maybe Honda. But I have always 21 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: caught Toyotas and I've had good luck with him. 22 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 3: Well, then I would stay with Toyotas. 23 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 5: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Anian the Car Doctor. 24 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 5: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 25 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 5: world over return to for their definitive opinion on automotive repairs. 26 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 5: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 27 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 5: the phone and call in. 28 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 29 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: take your calls at eighty five five five six ninety nine. 30 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: Hundred and now he. 31 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 5: Running. 32 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: I want to talk about automotive restoration and upgrades and 33 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: playing with that older vehicle. Whatever it is you're working on, 34 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: or whatever floats your boat and lights your fire and 35 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: is your heart's desire. We had a nineteen done I'm 36 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: serious when I say this, but we had a nineteen 37 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: seventy three pink Volkswagon thing in the shop this week. 38 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: And if you can imagine, I mean, I don't understand it. 39 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: I you know, Gordon's a great guy who's been a 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: long term customer. He can he could drive anything he wants. 41 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: He could have a sixty three split window Vett, a 42 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: sixty five gto and he drives a seven Volkswagon thing pink. 43 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: It's crazy, all right, It's just it's the Barbie car. 44 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: We just you know, and he's a regular guy. I 45 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: can't tell you any other way, but this is what 46 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: makes his heart go pit or Patton. Okay, dude, I 47 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: dig it right, This is what he likes. So we're 48 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: upgrading the brakes. We're gonna put disc brakes on the 49 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 3: front and upgrade the back breaks. We're gonna put better 50 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: breaks on a car that won't go over forty miles 51 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: an hour just because we can. And yeah again, you know, 52 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: makes no sense to me, but you know it's not 53 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: illegal and ethical and immoral and all right, we'll do it. 54 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 3: So on a job like this, we will run the clock. 55 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: It's you know, it's it's time and material. There's no 56 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 3: way to predict what this is gonna take because there's modification, 57 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: there's This is a peena relief job, meaning that you know, 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: when the part doesn't fit, you peen a relief to 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: make it fit. If it's if it's you know, logical 60 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: and ethical and everything else. You're re engineering a few things. 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: So you know, how hard can it be. We're adding 62 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: this brakes, We're correcting fifty years of neglect and abuse. 63 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: We're chasing down all those parts and clips and lines 64 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: and things that fell off somehow somewhere along the way 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: over the last fifty years of trying to repair, fifty 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 3: one years of trying to repair. You know, the clock's ticking, 67 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: and you know it's interesting to see where these end up. 68 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: Right now, we've got a little over twelve and a 69 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: half hours in this car and we're just about done. 70 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: We're waiting on If you were a Volkswagen Bug person, 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: if you ever worked on their brakes, you recall the 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: reservoir for the Master is mounted inside the vehicle. It's 73 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: away from the actual physical body of the Master. There 74 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: were these rubber hoses that came through the firewall, if 75 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: we can call it that, and fed the Master cylinder 76 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: itself from the reservoir bottle where the brake fluid sat. 77 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: We're waiting for those hoses to show up. For some reason, 78 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: they weren't included in the kit, which made no sense 79 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: to me. But ah, you know, listen, my job is 80 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: to just you know, put it together. And we're waiting 81 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: for a couple of break line clips and some grammets. 82 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: And it was you know, listen, job's a job. It 83 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: was a fun job. It's kind of a trip down 84 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: memory lane. I let Danny do most of the truth 85 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: be told, because I forget he needed the experience. I've 86 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: already had this experience once in my wef more than 87 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: a few times in my life. And you know, just 88 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: to go through it again. And I thought about it, 89 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: and I'm very proud of the job we did. I mean, 90 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: it's it's it's absolutely you know, it makes the rest 91 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: of the car look like, Okay, when are you getting 92 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: to me? You know, just man, it's pink and I 93 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: just can't get over this. And it's pink and I 94 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: just I'm like, you know, it looks like a bottle 95 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: of pepto bism wall with four tires going down the road. 96 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: I mean, there's just there's just no other way to 97 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: say it. It's this pink thing. I just can't get 98 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: over this, and it just makes me wonder. You know, 99 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: how how much of a stomach does everybody have to 100 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: do restoration? How prepared are you for this? Are you 101 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: really ready to do this that you know, here's here's 102 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: the commitment. You know, everybody says, hey, I want to 103 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 3: find a guy that'll work on an old car. I 104 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: want to find a guy that'll do restoration, et cetera. 105 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: But are you ready for the bill? You know, if 106 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: the average restoration shop is one hundred and fifty dollars 107 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: an hour, ten hours is do the math? And twelve 108 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 3: hours and twenty hours and you know, all of a sudden, 109 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 3: it's one thy fifteen, two thousand dollars? Are you ready 110 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: to do that? And I caution you, and I tell 111 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: you this because you know, I want you thinking. Here 112 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: we are, we're late winter springs around the corner, hopefully, 113 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: and I want you to start thinking, you know, and 114 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 3: if you haven't thought of it by now, it's getting 115 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: late the seasons, the season's going to be here right 116 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: to go cruising. And I actually peeled the cover on 117 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: black Back this week just to make sure she's still there, 118 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: and she is. We stayed late at the shop last 119 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: night to do some final things to the Monte Carlo 120 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: to get the hood back on it next week because 121 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: we're racing against the clock trying to finish that. And 122 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: you know, I think the question you have to have 123 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: in your head is when you're talking to a shop, 124 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: is not you know, how much is it going to be? 125 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: But how right is it going to be? And I 126 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: think you have to have a conversation. And I think 127 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: as a restoration shop, you have to have a conversation 128 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: with the customers about what are their expectations, what are 129 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: they looking for? Are they looking for a you know, 130 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: a top flight concourse level job. Are they looking for, 131 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: you know, an eighty percent or are they looking for 132 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 3: something that looks you know, one hundred yard car, you know, 133 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: a thing that looks good from one hundred yards away 134 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: because they want to drive it around town. And you know, 135 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 3: judging by the cost of things and the you know, 136 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: the expense in restoring some of these vehicles, I sort 137 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: of think that's that's a fair conversation to have. You know, 138 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: I have. I have two classic cars. I've got a 139 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: black two door fifty five Chevy that I've made. God, 140 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: it's twelve years old, now, eleven years old. It's a 141 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: great car. I love it. It's it's it does everything 142 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: I ask it to do. But you know what, the 143 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: the sheer got to clean it, and it's cost of 144 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: trying to keep a black car clean for the street, 145 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: and as perfect as it is is dogging, it's dogged it. 146 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: It just drives you crazy. The Monty Carlo haven't driven yet. 147 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: I've had the money, Carlo five years. I keep I 148 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: don't know, I'm trying not to let the disease get 149 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: too far where I you know, I'm making it perfect. 150 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: You got to understand, you know, I never told you 151 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: guys this story before. But when I got the fifty 152 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: five back in ninety nine, right, that's how long I 153 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: had the car. I had the car ten years before 154 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: we put it together. But when I had the fifty 155 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: five back in ninety nine and I found my friend 156 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: Chuck to paint it, I said, I just want you 157 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: to paint the firewall and put the rest of the 158 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: body in primor gray. That's how it started. It was 159 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: supposed to be just you know, make the firewall pretty. 160 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: For some reason, the firewall stuck out in my mind 161 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: that I wanted that right, and we'll build the car 162 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: around it later on, And then two years later it 163 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: became what you guys see on the website. So that 164 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: being said, I'm trying not to let that get too 165 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: far with the Monte Carlo, and Danny has to, you know, 166 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: kind of sit on me some times to get me 167 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: not to, you know, because I could go, I could 168 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: have the body off the frame of the Monty Carlo 169 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: in a matter of you know, a day, and I'm 170 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: trying not to do that. So, you know, it comes 171 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: back to restoration. How much, how right? What are you 172 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: trying to do? I know what my goal is with 173 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: the Monte Carlo. I want to create an ice cream car. 174 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: I want to I want to create a car I 175 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: can jump in, I can give the keys to anybody 176 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: and say here, go get ice cream with it and 177 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: not worry about it. It's it's a nice street car. 178 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: It's a survivor. It's an original forty four thousand, forty 179 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: two thousand mile car out of Texas. You know, That's 180 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 3: That's what I'm looking to do. But it's not pink. 181 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: I just keep coming back to that that it's But 182 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: anyway Gordon's going to have then, I mean, this thing's 183 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: going to stop on a dime. Of course, it won't 184 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: go too fast because it's you know, the engine barely 185 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: you know, not that it barely runs, but you can 186 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: tell it's still a Volkswagen, you know. We get the 187 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: pull cord out and we wind it up and we 188 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: pull it on the back of the pulley like a loanmower. 189 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: We know, I'm only kidding. It really does have a starter. 190 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: But this car actually is sort of and this is 191 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: the neat part about doing restorations, right, this car has 192 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: if you remember back in the seventies, and I think 193 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: even the early eighties. They were there a gasoline powered heater, 194 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: so they fed they fed gasoline from the tank to 195 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: a big tank sitting in front of the driver on 196 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 3: the trunk side in front of the car, and a 197 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: little spark plug would ignite and it would create hot air. 198 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: And I just I look at it and I think 199 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: of all the disasters that had to happen as a 200 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: result of this gasoline, older car, a spark plug sitting 201 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: in front of the driver. You know, I just we 202 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 3: disconnected it. I told Gordon, the tank's out. Do you 203 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 3: use it? He says no, He says, I can't get 204 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: parts for it. And he said, I know there's ways 205 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: and places to fix it. He goes, but I never 206 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 3: drive the car in the in the winter. Anyway, I said, perfect, 207 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 3: we're taking this system. We're taking that line out so 208 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: it doesn't lead fuel and you know, it becomes a 209 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: but you know, you look at some of the technology, 210 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: the things we had to make heat, and I think 211 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: it was an option. Actually, uh, you know, to me, 212 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: it looks like the only thing it'd be good for 213 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: is on the side of the road you could roast 214 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 3: hot dogs. But I just I don't know, And it's pink. 215 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: I just I just don't get it. Eight five five 216 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: five six zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running eighty 217 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: in the Car Doctor, and I promise I'll be back 218 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: right after this. 219 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 4: Don't go away. 220 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: He drives that way. But when it comes to fixing cars, 221 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: Ron has car advice done right. Eight five five five 222 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: six zero nine nine zero zero. Here's Ron. Hey, let's 223 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: get over and talk to David in New Hampshire. David, 224 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: welcome to the Car Doctor. Sir, how can I help? 225 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you very much for taking my question. 226 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: You're welcome. 227 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 2: It centers around ninety seven GM Yukon and the brake system. 228 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: When I got the vehicle last fall, the ABS system 229 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: was activating all the time and just touching the brakes, okay, 230 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: So I disabled it and it was getting along, you know, 231 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: all right as a temporary fix, and the brake pedal 232 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: was a little soft, and so I had a fuel 233 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: line leak and got it in the garage. They replaced 234 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: all the fuel lines and at the same time they 235 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: noticed the brake climb is bad. They replaced that, adjusted 236 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: the rear brakes and bled everything. And then I got 237 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: it back and the pedal was actually more soft after 238 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: all after having that done, and this is still with 239 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: the ABS disabled. So I mean number one question would be, well, 240 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: a couple of people who have commented that that year 241 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: Chevy or about that year typically has a soft brake pedal, 242 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's true. 243 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, define soft, you know, if it's if 244 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: it's if it's uncomfortable to drive. Is always my barometer, 245 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 3: you know, I'll have people say to me, hey, you 246 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: know it feels different than my other car. Is it 247 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: different or is it uncomfortable? 248 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 4: You know? 249 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: Is it you know, the pedals going closer to the floor, 250 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: you know, the the the still My still measurement over 251 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: the last sixty years has been can I get a 252 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: foot underneath the pedal? If the pedals all the way down? 253 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: You know, if the car has stopped and you know, 254 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: reasonable application, how hard am I stepping on the brake. 255 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: Let's let's back up a second. When when you were 256 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: saying that the ABS was activating, are we talking about 257 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: under ten miles an hour? As you slowed down, you 258 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: would get that brake pedal activation, the ABS activation only 259 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: at that speed? Yeah, okay, yeah, so so so somewhere 260 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: unrelated to this particular problem. This vehicle has a bad 261 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: ABS wheel speed sensor, likely one of the fronts, not uncommon, 262 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: which is causing It's what's going on there is the 263 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: computer is interpreting wheel speed different for one wheel versus 264 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: the other three, and it thinks the vehicle is in 265 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 3: a slide condition and it's activating the ABS trying to 266 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: keep the vehicle straight. So how did you disable the ABS? 267 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: Just unplug the electrical connection. 268 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: At the at the ABS control module, the ABS control 269 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: unit itself. Okay, yeah, okay. The other way you can 270 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 3: do that is if you want to just yeah, have 271 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: you got that that harness is unplugged? Do you happen 272 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: to have that harness protected something wrapped around it or 273 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: is it just exposed to the element or do you 274 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: have it sticking out of the out of the connector 275 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: a little bit? How do you have that? 276 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's fairly well protected. Yeah, okay, I tested 277 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: it once and I plugged it back in and then 278 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: the symptoms came back, so you know, it's it's still functioning. 279 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 3: Just just as an aside, plug that back in and 280 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: disconnect one of the wheel speed sensors. It's it's it's well, 281 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: it's less exposure, right if you ever decide to fix it, 282 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: all right, because what I'm going to tell you next 283 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: may may predicate that you have to fix it. So, 284 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: you know, if we're talking about a a spongy brake pedal, 285 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: let's let's let's work on the premise that this has 286 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: a legitimately spongy brake pedal and the system's been bled. 287 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: Now when they ran the new brake lines and they 288 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: bled the wheels, do you know if they did an 289 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: abs bleed procedure? And I'm going to tell you they 290 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: couldn't have because it was unplugged, right. 291 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: Okay, No, that was not that was not brought up 292 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: in the conversation an abs bleed. 293 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: Right there there, There is actually a method by which 294 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: you know ABS ABS control modules are really kind of interesting. 295 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: I think they're about as intricate and detail oriented and 296 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: complicated the inner workings as Congress. I really do, because 297 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: I've taken them apart and I still can't understand how 298 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: they work, much like much like some elements of our 299 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 3: government in terms of political decisions. But regardless, I I 300 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: look at it and and it's just a very intricate, 301 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: detail oriented weaving of passageways and control solenoids and electronics, 302 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: and when you depending upon the level of here, let's 303 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: back up again, depending upon the level of how you 304 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: what level of breakwork you're doing. If we did standard 305 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: brakes at the shop, or we were doing a brake 306 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: fluid exchange and we wanted to just move fluid around 307 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: or just do a break fluid flush of you know, 308 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: each wheel, we're done. Not a problem. If we're replacing 309 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: a line where one end of the vehicle has a 310 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: line that's completely air bound versus the other, we're going 311 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: to have to do an ABS control bleed, which you know, 312 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: we will start by connecting a scan tool and cycling 313 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: the scan tool to the point that we will cycle 314 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: the pistons and the controls inside the ABS assembly and 315 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: that will displace and move air and bleed the unit. 316 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: And then we will go through a stamp bleed, you know, 317 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: the traditional you know, right rear, left rear, right front, 318 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: left front, depending upon the vehicle, or left front, right rear, whatever, 319 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: whatever the cycling is, whatever the procedure is for that 320 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: vehicle where we bleed at the wheel, if that control 321 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: unit was unplugged, there's no way they can do a 322 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: bleed all right, because it's not electrically connected. So the 323 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: fact that the pedals worse after they did the line 324 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: tells me there may be air in that ABS control unit. 325 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: So that makes sense. Okay, all right, so let's let's 326 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: work on assumption, which is a dangerous word on family radio. 327 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: But let's assume that there is air in the line. 328 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: And you go and they bleed it out, and now 329 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: you're just back to your spongy brake pedal that you're 330 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: not happy with. Okay, So now we've got to talk 331 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: about what does the rest of the break system look like. 332 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: Do the calipers have free movement? Do they you know, 333 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: is anything sticky stuck? Good quality breaks? And we start 334 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: to work our way through the system, and now we 335 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: come to the conclusion that this really is a spongy 336 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 3: brake pedal. We've bled it. We've led the ABS control 337 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: all right. We know that we've got good hoses. We've 338 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 3: looked at calibers, we've looked at pits, we've eliminated the 339 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 3: obvious mechanical possibilities. Right of going through the system. We're 340 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: down to it's two things. It's either the master cylinder 341 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 3: or the ABS control unit. Itself all right, and you 342 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: will not get fault code, you will not get warnings, 343 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: you will not get dashboard displays. Stuff's just worn out. 344 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: How many miles are on this twenty two year old vehicle? 345 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: Two fifteen? 346 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah right, it's always higher mileage twenty two see ninety 347 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: seven oh seven, twenty. 348 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: Five year old if you come out of Texas. So 349 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: it came out of Texas, so it's not badly roasted, right, yeah. 350 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: No, I get it, I get it. So the consequence 351 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: then becomes, I'll tell you what. David's down the line, 352 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 3: let me let me get over to this side of 353 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: the break, and then we'll finish up the conversation there. 354 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: I'm running any and the car doctor. We're back right 355 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 3: at of this. 356 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 4: Don't go away. 357 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 3: Welcome back, David. You're still there, sir, Yes, I am. 358 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 3: So where I was going with this is, let's you know, 359 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: once we work through the mechanical side of these breaks 360 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 3: for everybody that's just tuning in on your ninety seven yukon, 361 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: then let's go and you know, do we have a 362 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: bad master? Do we have a bad or tired ABS 363 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: control unit? And at that point you're always going to 364 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: do a master cylinder first two hundred and fifteen thousand miles. 365 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: If you're lucky enough to find an ABS control module, 366 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: you are not going to pump twenty five years and 367 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifteen thousand miles is worth of dirt 368 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: and crud down into it, all right, And I say it. 369 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: I say it like that because it doesn't make sense. 370 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: You know, everybody says, well, how do you pin down 371 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 3: which it is? Yeah, there's ways to pin it down. 372 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: We could block off the ports that the Master's cylinder 373 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: determine that the Master is good or bad? All right, 374 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: But my argument is we're not talking about a three 375 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: to five year old vehicle. We're talking about a twenty 376 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: five year old vehicle. And you know, at what, at 377 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: what point does that Master become a problem. So what 378 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 3: you're gonna do is you're gonna get down to your 379 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 3: local AutoZone because I know they'll have this. I know 380 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 3: they'll have a Master. Dural Ast makes a great Master 381 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: cylinder for that truck. And by the way, Master cylinders 382 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: are becoming a hard thing to find as well. So 383 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: I want you to ask them, given the year making model, 384 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: do they have Master cylinders for this? I know they 385 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: do but I want you to find out do they 386 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: have do they have or can they get either new 387 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: or re manufactured anti locked control units and untilock breake 388 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: control unit, because that'll be the trick because before you 389 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 3: start down this path of you know, trying to resurrect this, 390 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: can you get parts for it? And AutoZone is going 391 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: to be the place that's going to tell you that, 392 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 3: all right, just because of the age of the truck, 393 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: so you know, and then and then if you want 394 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 3: to do this yourself, they've also got you know, break 395 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 3: bleeding kits and they've got all the tools and everything 396 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: you need down there, you know, uh, you know, to. 397 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: Get the job done. 398 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: I would have to if I did a master myself, 399 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: which I'm a little reluctant to do. But when I 400 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: got that done, I'd still have to do the abs bleed. 401 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 3: Correct. Now, when you're down at AutoZone, you can ask 402 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 3: them do they rent scan tools? Now, if you've never 403 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: done this, maybe you don't want to do this, but 404 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: if you want to tackle a project, you know, do 405 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: they rent scan tools? And I believe they do, all right. 406 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 3: I believe they have a loner scan tool program. And 407 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: you just want to make sure you get a scantol 408 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: that can do an ABS bleed, tell them what you're 409 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: tell them what you're about, tell them what you're trying 410 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 3: to do. Now, if you've got a relationship with your mechanic, 411 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: if you've got a mechanic up there that you trust, 412 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: you know, go down and talk to them and say, hey, 413 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 3: you know, what are the possibilities of this, this and this. 414 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 3: I think the key will come back to because not 415 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: a lot of shops recognize this for some reason that 416 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 3: if you say to them, hey, did you bleed the 417 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: ABS control unit? Have you done an ABS bleed? And 418 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 3: if they look at you like a deer in the 419 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: headlights on a New Hampshire night in the cold of winter, 420 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: you know, maybe they need to go back to school. 421 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, I was going to ask you if 422 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: that was a typical procedure that most mechanics would be 423 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 2: familiar with, but because I got the sense that they 424 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: might not, Yeah, they may not. 425 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: And you know, I one thing I know. One thing 426 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 3: I know is I don't know what I don't know. 427 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: And anytime somebody mentions a procedure or a course of 428 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 3: repair action or something that I have to do, I 429 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: look at them and I think about it, and I say, yeah, 430 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: maybe let me go do some research. I do a 431 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 3: lot of research during the week, right, you know, it's 432 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 3: it just becomes. 433 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: Part of that one last thing you said. You said 434 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 2: about disabling a sensor in the front wheel as a 435 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: as an alternative to Yeah, is that just a matter 436 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: of getting back to the hub and pulling the sensor 437 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: off of the hub? 438 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: No, just you know, if you follow and I typically 439 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: do the driver's side front because I'm lazy and I 440 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 3: don't want to walk around the car, you know, I 441 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 3: will follow the wire up it meets about where the 442 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 3: frame and the fender well meet, you'll find a two 443 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 3: wire connector there. It's the harness coming out of the 444 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: ABS sensor because that wiring harness the sensor should be 445 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 3: part of the hub on that vehicle such that it 446 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: doesn't disconnect if you're if you if you do a 447 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 3: a hub, you're going to be doing an ABS sensor. 448 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 3: And typically what happened was they rusted internally and it 449 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: changed the distance the sensor sat from the reluctor from 450 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: the trigger device, and it changed the air gap which 451 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: changed the signal. So I just like doing it up there, 452 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: you know, if I If you know, trying to predict 453 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: a two wire connector to me, is a whole lot 454 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: easier than trying to connect the twenty four wire connector 455 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 3: located down low on the frame where the ABS control 456 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 3: module is there. So I typically, I typically like to 457 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: do it there, and I'll just take a plastic baggie, 458 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: wrap it around the harness side, right, and just rubber 459 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: band it and I can keep an eye on it, 460 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: you know, when I walk by it, I can throw 461 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: my head under there once in a while. Yeah, the 462 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: bag is still there. Good, We're protected. Because I'm worried 463 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 3: about the harness side. I don't care about the disconnected 464 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: sensor on the other side. Well I do, actually if 465 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: that's not the one I'm changing. But you know, if 466 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: I haven't diagnosed it, But once I've diagnosed it, I 467 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 3: you know, I'll disconnect the one that's going bad. I 468 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: don't care at that point. Does the car have any 469 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: sort of strange rotational sounds like a bad wheelbaring just 470 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 3: by circumstance. No, okay, so that hasn't happened yet. Yeah, 471 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: I would. I would pursue like that, and you know, listen, 472 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: I would go talk to your shop about if we're 473 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: going to fix this, let's use it right, Let's make 474 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 3: it all work, you know, let's let's you know, my 475 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: biggest dislike for older GM vehicles is finding the anti 476 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: lock breake controller parts. And I think that's where you 477 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: got to go next. You got to know that this 478 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: stuff is out there and available, whether you get something 479 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 3: used out of a different vehicle, you know, or which 480 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: can be problematic too because that stuff's twenty five years old, 481 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: or you know, finding some new old stocks somewhere. So 482 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: you know, it's time to do a little bit of research. 483 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: But I would start at your local AutoZone. 484 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: All right, sir, okay, all right, thank you very much. 485 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 3: You're very welcome, David. Good luck to you. Let us 486 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: know what happens. It's tough, right you get an older 487 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 3: GM product, and some of them are really nice. Hey, listen, 488 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: my own four suburban. It's one of my biggest fears. 489 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: I have not been able to find an anti lock 490 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 3: breake control unit for it yet. And I happen to 491 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 3: know that, you know, no one's remanufacturing that at this point, 492 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: so I'm not sure what I'm going to do. And 493 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 3: you know, you wonder, is that the planned obsolescence. I 494 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: keep thinking I'm going to do an ABS bypass, but 495 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: I don't want to do that because I'm defeating a 496 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 3: safety system and I like the way the truck operates. So, 497 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 3: you know, keeping an older car has its challenge, as 498 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: it sure does, and something that we can kind of 499 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: look forward to and be aware of. Let's talk about 500 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: an older car real quick. Let me do this right here. 501 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 3: You know, a couple of weeks ago, or was it 502 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 3: last week or the week before, we had a gentleman 503 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: call in. He was a he was a disabled I 504 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: think it was a disabled VET or you know, handicapped VET, 505 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 3: handicap driver with the older Buick Regal with the ABS 506 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 3: control unit, worried about getting through mass inspection. I got 507 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: a couple of emails about this. Hey ron, I've got 508 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: a ninety eight Buick Regal with about ninety two thousand 509 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: miles on and antalog breaks, et cetera. The brakes work great, 510 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: in and out, anti lock drove with all this, all 511 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: this stuff since the fifties. I live in Wooster, Mass 512 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: I have been passed the last four years with inspection 513 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 3: and let's see, oh, he says, anti lock break check 514 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 3: traction control and check engine lights are all on on 515 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 3: and he still passes state inspection. If you check mass 516 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 3: DMV site, it is listed. Also, I've used start By 517 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: products since the fifties. So there's Larry's telling us that 518 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 3: he has an older Buick Regal with that particular ABS 519 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: problem and he's getting through inspection. Hey Ron, this is 520 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: from Bill and Syracuse. Hey, Ron, is that guy sure 521 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: that ABS is an inspection item? It isn't here in 522 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 3: New York, which is a regulations on a steroid state. 523 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: Just wondering Bill, Yeah, Bill, I agree, I don't think 524 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 3: it is, and on and on and on, and I 525 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 3: got more than a few of these from Massachusetts residents. 526 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: So evidently ABS lights on on the dashboard is not, 527 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: as per the emails I'm getting from everybody, is not 528 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: a safety inspection item in Massachusetts. Inspection on an older 529 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: vehicle like that. So I think if the gentleman's listening, 530 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: I don't have his name in front of me, but 531 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: if he's listening, I would suggest that you go to 532 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: motor vehicle and talk to them and ask them, because 533 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: you may be trying to fix something that's expensive on 534 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 3: an older, older vehicle that you may not have to 535 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 3: just to get around and do what you're trying to 536 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 3: do with it is you know, basic trans in pretation, 537 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 3: So good luck to you. Eight five five five six 538 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: zero nine nine zero zero. Run on any of the 539 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: car Doctor back right after this. Why this car is automatic, 540 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: it's systematic, it's dromatic. What's breezed lightning? Welcome back? Running 541 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: the car doctor here. Eight five five five six zero 542 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: nine nine zero zero A five five five six zero 543 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: nine nine zero zero the car Doctor's twenty four to 544 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: seven number. Good time to get in. Let's go talk 545 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 3: to Joe and mass Joe, Welcome to the car doctor, sir, 546 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: How can I help? 547 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: Thank you? I have a three part question regarding my 548 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen Maximize okay, and the question is it's due 549 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: for sixty thousand mile maintenance and dealers recommending transmission fluid flush. 550 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: It's a CBT transmission. So my three part question is, first, 551 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: should I consider a transmission flush or just a fluid change? 552 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 1: And is it necessary to stay with the dealer in 553 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: order to get their manufacturers and that recommended fluid or 554 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: could I shop around and look at a non dealer 555 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: shop for better pricing, but take the risk of a 556 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: non manufacturer blew it being placed in a transmission. What's 557 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: the best practice so to maintain a CDT transmission? 558 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: So the car is seven years old, it's got sixty 559 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: thousand miles on it. Who's been servicing it up to 560 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: this point? 561 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: The dealer? 562 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 3: All right, and what's the dealer been doing? And I've 563 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 3: been doing what's the dealer been doing up to this point? 564 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: Oil changes, sam Bell? And then I've done rare brakes, Okay, filters. 565 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: That's it, simple, simple stuff and a very reliable cars 566 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: thus far. 567 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: Right. So you know, if I can just make a 568 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: point to in my just from what I'm seeing, you 569 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 3: seem to have found a home with the dealership. Why 570 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: are you changing now? What makes you want to go 571 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: somewhere else? Is? I guess is really where my questions leading. 572 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: One? Just to understand my options to convenience. I have 573 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: a baveling down the road about three miles, so it's 574 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: just a matter of convenience. So all things being equal, 575 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: I would go for a convenience. But if there is 576 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: a difference, then you know, I'd stay with a dealer. 577 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: I'd stay with the dealer. And I'll tell you why. 578 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 3: All right, because a sixty thousand mile service is not 579 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: just a trans service. And let's let's define a trans 580 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: service if we can. You know, is it a flush 581 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: or a drain and fill? I don't like the word flush. 582 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 3: Flush denotes pressure, all right. I don't know of anybody 583 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 3: really doing a flush anymore. The industry seems to have 584 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: accepted it. We do transmission services by flushes now and 585 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 3: half of the past ten years, just the way we've 586 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: we still do tune ups, you know, which don't exist 587 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: anymore either. You know, my definition is of a tune 588 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: up is doing whatever it takes to make a vehicle 589 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: run right the day it left the factory. And it 590 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 3: could be anything from adding air in the tires to 591 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: emptying the trunk of junk, to servicing the engine and 592 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: making it run properly. That's a tune up, making the 593 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: car run right. So a transmission flush or fluid exchange 594 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: is really what we're after. Fluid exchange is a one 595 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 3: for one replacement. The dealer is going to have the 596 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: right equipment, and aftermarket shops will have the right equipment too. 597 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: There are companies out there that make fluid exchangers. MALA 598 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: m H A. L. E Mala makes a trans fluid 599 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 3: exchanger with all the right adapters that will do a 600 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: fluid exchange and allow you to service a transmission properly. 601 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 3: Not just Nissan, but you know a lot of them, 602 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: a lot of the vehicles on the road today. You 603 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: know nothing against Valveleine. Valvaline is a probably a quick 604 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 3: oil change place, a quick fluid exchange place. I don't 605 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: know that you're going to get the same level of 606 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: expertise as I'm hoping you're getting at the dealer, because 607 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: they're you know, they're I think the sort of a 608 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: case in the factory training there is is, in my eyes, 609 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: typically better. The other concern I have is what else 610 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: will the Valvalleen be able to do? At sixty thousand miles. 611 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: If we were having this conversation at the shop, if 612 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: I can extend myself to that point, you know, we 613 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: would be talking about doing a fuel system, cleaning cabin 614 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: and air filters, pulling wheels, rotating tires, checking brakes, you know, 615 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: things like that. So you know, you know how much 616 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 3: cheaper is the Valvallene going to be. Let's say they're 617 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: one hundred bucks cheaper? Is it is? It is it 618 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: is it worth it, right, Joe, you know, for you 619 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: know how much of us savings is there going to be? 620 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: And in the end, all right, And here's here's here's 621 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: my final point. We I used to think, based on 622 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: everything I read, that servicing CBTs was something the industry 623 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 3: didn't do, which they didn't do. And then in the 624 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 3: last I would say, four years, the industry has kind 625 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 3: of turned the corner where we now have this belief 626 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: that servicing cb is good. And I can honestly say, 627 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 3: we've been servicing cvets in the shop for the last 628 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: three years on a regular basis, and we see a 629 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 3: huge difference in the way they operate. We see a 630 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: huge difference in color. The fluid coming out is black, burnt, brown, 631 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: beaten and dead. And the stuff we're putting in as fresh, 632 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: and it has lubricity, it has viscosity to it, it 633 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: has life. You can feel it. Some people will argue 634 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: that's not very scientific, you know, and I don't care. 635 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: That's just the way a mechanic would interpret and feel things. 636 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: Using my mechanical sense has gotten me to this point. 637 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: But the point of using the dealer is if that 638 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: trends has a problem at the eighty thousand mile mark. 639 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 3: As Nissans do have some CBT issues. All right, you 640 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: can always turn around to the manufacturer and say, hey, 641 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: I serviced it as per your guidelines at your facility. 642 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: What can you do for me? You have an argument. 643 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: Not having that, you just lost all credibility because to them, 644 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: Valveline is just another place down the road. All right. 645 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: To answer your last part of your question real quick, 646 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: is yes, you can go elsewhere and get fluid that 647 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: meets manufacturers spec. AutoZone would carry it. The company's name 648 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: is Dumetsu I. Demetsu typically makes most of the Japanese 649 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 3: trans fluids as well as other manufacturers fluids. Anything that 650 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 3: meets their spec is typically perfect for what you're trying 651 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: to do. All right, kiddo, but you should be fine, 652 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: you know, stay with the dealer that's been servicing it 653 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: up to this point. It's been working. Don't change it, 654 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 3: and just keep copies of all your receipts. I appreciate 655 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 3: the call, Joe. I'm Ronning Inning and the car doctor. 656 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm back right after this. Welcome back Earning in the 657 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: card doctor. You got an email here? Remember last week? 658 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 3: Tim called in two thousand and five Nissan CenTra Ron 659 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: thanks for taking my call on the five Centra's restrut replace. 660 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: You gave me the confidence. Confidence is a big word. 661 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: You know. 662 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 3: We got to use confidence more. You gave me the 663 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 3: confidence that it had to work. My wife my version 664 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 3: of research Kathy. Everybody needs a research Kathy. You know 665 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 3: everybody needs a research Kathy. My wife found the trick 666 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: I was missing. About two and a half minutes into 667 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 3: this video, he shows me a YouTube video I needed 668 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 3: to pry the axle down and that moved things around 669 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: so the bolt would align. It would all go together. 670 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 3: I included the pictures of the finished product and the 671 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: tools that helped me do the job. There was also 672 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 3: a board that spread the force out so I didn't 673 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: smash anything. I appreciate your reassurance that it had to 674 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 3: go back together. Tim and Springfield listener on WTAX and 675 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio podcasts. You know what, Tim, Confidence is a big word. 676 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: And I think in this age of information, when there's 677 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: so much information out there, not just the car doctor, 678 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 3: but YouTube videos and other resources that are available to 679 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 3: all of us, I think research is key. I always 680 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: think about what Einstein said. Trust me, there's no embarrassment 681 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 3: at a the mening you have to do research. My 682 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: problems in mathematic are much tougher than yours ever could be, 683 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 3: or something for that extense. So Tom brava good job. 684 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 3: I'm not an ady in the car doctor until the 685 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 3: next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 686 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 4: See you