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Speaker 1: Hey, hurdlers, You are listening to episode fifty six of Hurdle,

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Speaker 1: a podcast that talks to everyone from top CEOs to

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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and athletes about how they got through tough times

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Speaker 1: hurdles of sorts by leaning into wellness. My name is

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Speaker 1: Emily Abodi and I am feeling good today.

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Speaker 1: Finally, I'm writing the high from watching the Brooklyn Half

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, I am chatting with Sianna Elise Erp.

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Speaker 1: She's a yoga instructor that's made a huge name for

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Sianna. She grew up in

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Speaker 1: Australia and as a teenager she had pretty tough time.

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Speaker 1: From the outside looking in, everything was great. She was

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Speaker 1: from a loving home. She's a beautiful girl. She's super active,

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Speaker 1: but in reality she was dealing with severe depression caused

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Speaker 1: by what doctors told her was a chemical imbalance. She

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Speaker 1: tells me that literally she had nothing in her life

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Speaker 1: to be upset about, but still had such negative thoughts

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Speaker 1: consuming her, so much so that at age sixteen, she

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Speaker 1: even attempted suicide. She got the help she needed to

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Speaker 1: deal with the disease and soon leaned into journaling and

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Speaker 1: moving her body to move forward. And that's when she

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Speaker 1: started her Instagram account at Siana Elise SJA na E

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Speaker 1: li Se, which spread like wildfire, sharing photos of herself

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Speaker 1: trying different yoga poses and beautiful places. When I met

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Speaker 1: Siana in Miami at the retreat By Function, which is

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Speaker 1: essentially fitness, wellness fashion festival of sorts. They have it

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Speaker 1: in Austin in Miami the one that we went to,

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Speaker 1: and also there's one in September in New York. And

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Speaker 1: when I met Siana there, she was so welcoming right

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Speaker 1: from the get go. She's one of those people that

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Speaker 1: walks up to you gives you this huge hug, a

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Speaker 1: kiss on the cheek. Seriously, she's such a positive example

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Speaker 1: for so many people that keep up with her, and

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Speaker 1: I just feel really awesome about today's conversation and about

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Speaker 1: the fact that I get.

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Speaker 2: To bring her story to the hurdlers.

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Speaker 1: I would love it this week if you could do

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Speaker 1: at Hurdle podcast, tag me at Emily a body, let

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Speaker 1: me know what's resonating with you, what you like, all

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Speaker 1: the things Emily at hurdle dot us. If you want

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Speaker 1: of your own to share. And I think that's it

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Speaker 1: with that, Let's get to hurdling.

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Speaker 2: Today. I'm sitting here with Sianna Elise or don't I

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Speaker 2: know I'm gonna get it. No one can get it. Actually,

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Speaker 2: you actually nailed it, nailed well.

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Speaker 1: I feel like because most of your followers know you

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Speaker 1: as a lease, it's like when I throw your last

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sianna, what do you do?

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Speaker 3: I am an international yoga teacher. I'm a full time

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Speaker 3: traveler fun sake of frolica, I suppose, And I kind

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Speaker 3: to live their best life and to learn to love

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Speaker 1: I love this idea of like international yoga teacher. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like International Woman of Mystery. I'm rich, so by

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Speaker 1: your accent. Obviously. We are recording this right now in Miami.

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Speaker 1: Both here this weekend for the retreat By function. We've

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Speaker 2: A lot of fun and a lot of sweat.

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Speaker 1: But now we're here to record a pod and I'm

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Speaker 1: super excited that we were able to connect while we're

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Speaker 1: here this weekend. But you're not from Miami, You're not

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Speaker 1: from the States. No, you're from quite far from here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm from Australia, the land down under the land

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Speaker 2: on under the land of vegemite. Oh my god, I

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Speaker 3: I mean it depends on your taste, Bud. Some people

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Speaker 2: Bomb bomb all right.

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Speaker 1: So I want to rewind back as we as we

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Speaker 1: usually do here on Hurdle and kind of get into your.

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Speaker 2: Backstory, and I wanted a little bit about how you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, my whole family was. We just grew up

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Speaker 2: Kind of sports were you doing?

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Speaker 3: Swimming, netball, gymnastic, surf, life saving aerobics. I tried tennis

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Speaker 3: And if I wasn't doing one of those, I'd be

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Speaker 4: Could do all my left light or something like that.

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Speaker 2: And how many siblings do you have? Two older brothers? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm the little baby. How was that it was?

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Speaker 3: They're super protective and have been my whole life, but

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Speaker 1: But that's a special thing about having a brother or too, right,

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Speaker 1: Like I have a brother and I feel like that

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Speaker 2: It's the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's also about to be an FBI agent, So

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Speaker 3: Like that's the best thing about being from Australia is

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Speaker 2: We grew up.

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Speaker 2: Something with our mates. Or yeah, and obviously you still

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Speaker 2: talking with Christy earlier and she's like a die hard

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Speaker 3: In the summer, so I just love the warmth, like love.

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Speaker 2: I just sit the shower and like want to cry.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe eventually I'll.

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Speaker 3: Probably end up half the year in Hawaii, probably Kawaii

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Speaker 2: It's not a bad place today, three hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: Okay, so super active growing up. You listed a ton

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Speaker 3: I kept doing sports up until I was probably sixteen.

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Speaker 2: By their just sixteen, I'd pretty much quit everything.

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Speaker 3: I went through bad depression at fifteen, and like on

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Speaker 2: Okay, so fifteen, it really depressed.

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Speaker 1: Was there anything going on in your personal life or

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Speaker 3: Small things like I was getting bullied by like my

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Speaker 3: that I had a chemical imbalance, like an underlying cellular

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Speaker 3: cause of it. Because everything else in my life is perfect, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I had nothing to live for?

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Speaker 2: Was what made it worse? How did you find out

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Speaker 2: that you had a chemical imbalance?

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Speaker 1: Because I feel like, I mean, obviously with something like

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Speaker 1: even if everything's going well but you're feeling super just

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Speaker 1: not yourself. It's like, well, it's gray and cold and

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Speaker 1: and you're still feeling this way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I guess it's kind of the same thing,

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Speaker 3: like you can understand that nothing in your life's going

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Speaker 2: It was diagnosed through doctors.

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Speaker 3: My mom's also a psychologist, so she was well onto it,

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Speaker 3: I travel a lot, I teach yoga, I take photos,

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Speaker 3: So you used to be able to get like ten

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Speaker 3: thousand followers a day on when there was a popular page,

442
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 3: because it like worked on an algorithm, like a formula thing,

443
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,800
Speaker 3: and if you knew how to work with that algorithm,

444
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 3: it just like it was like a game.

445
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Speaker 2: That you could play. Yeah, and I loved playing it. It

446
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,160
Speaker 2: was really fun.

447
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Speaker 3: I think that's when I had a more unhealthy approach

448
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 3: to social media. Actually, but like I remember getting to

449
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 3: ten thousand and thinking that was ridiculous, Like it is ridiculous, right,

450
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,959
Speaker 3: I don't know ten thousand people like no, Like, imagine

451
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,159
Speaker 3: having ten thousand people in your house, Like that doesn't work.

452
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Speaker 2: I don't know what house rely on. I have a tiny,

453
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Speaker 2: little one budge of a pup like head up during it.

454
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Speaker 2: I feel like we need some realm.

455
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Speaker 3: I don't even think we could fit twenty people in

456
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 3: my my mom like shoulder to shoulder.

457
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Speaker 2: It's like the size of this hotel room.

458
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Speaker 3: But yeah, and I remember my mom was up staying

459
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 3: with me in Queensland at the time, and she she

460
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 3: was saying to me, like, like having a little giggle.

461
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Speaker 3: She was like, maybe one day you leaven get to

462
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,360
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand, and I was like, don't be stupid,

463
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 3: like that's just no, don't be no, that happened, and

464
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 3: then yeah, it just blew up. Yeah, but the number

465
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Speaker 3: thing doesn't. It's just like it literally is just a

466
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Speaker 3: number now. And I don't do it because I have

467
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Speaker 3: so many followers. I do it because one it's therapeutic,

468
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 3: it's cathartic and it's healing, it's expression, it's art. And

469
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 3: two it's it's like if I can help literally just

470
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Speaker 3: one other person, I would be doing it. So whether

471
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Speaker 3: I have one follower, sixteen followers, or one point six million,

472
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Speaker 3: I'm doing it regardless.

473
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Speaker 1: Do you talk openly often or at all about like

474
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Speaker 1: your past history with mental health struggles?

475
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeahh yeah, No, I've I've realized from experience that

476
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 3: talking about it is firstly so healing to your own soul,

477
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 3: but secondly, so many people relate. It's like one in

478
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 3: four people in Australia release I'm not sure what the

479
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 3: stats are in America. Stuff are from mental health of

480
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 3: some sort, and so whether it's to you personally or

481
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 3: you know someone, everyone can relate in some way, shape

482
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Speaker 3: or form.

483
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Speaker 1: Right, And I mean it's a public health problem here

484
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,400
Speaker 1: for sure, and it's interesting, like I know in England

485
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Speaker 1: they have government officials specifically that deal with mental health.

486
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is just so important and I think.

487
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Speaker 4: It's especially it's come to that, but it's so necessary.

488
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Speaker 1: I think, especially in this age of social media where

489
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Speaker 1: like more and more children these days are actually like

490
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Speaker 1: not as interested in like living the life that you

491
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Speaker 1: lived when you were growing up and being.

492
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Speaker 3: Outside outside, getting dirty, not wearing shoes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because they feel like they're getting their socialization

494
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Speaker 1: behind a screen.

495
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Speaker 2: And so that all the.

496
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Speaker 3: Mental health parents do now if their kids being noisy,

497
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Speaker 3: they just put like a screen in front of them

498
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Speaker 3: and expect them to be quiet, right, right.

499
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Speaker 2: I ad at airports and restaurants all the time. Yeah,

500
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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

501
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Speaker 1: You walk into the terminal at LaGuardia and like every

502
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: it has an iPad in front of it, and it's like, oh,

503
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: so you're not supposed to talk to anybody anymore. Y

504
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: You're back home and you're starting to discover that you

505
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: have an interest in yoga. Okay, so talk to me

506
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Speaker 1: about the beginning of your interest in yoga.

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Speaker 3: It started from I guess my history with sport when

508
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 3: I was little, so one of the sports that I

509
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: did was gymnastics. And then once I quit gymnastics, I

510
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: think I was probably twelve wish when I quit Jim,

511
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: I went straight to do American style cheerleading, which was

512
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 3: really new in Australia, and it was a really fun thing.

513
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: It was just like a really like team social thing. Yeah,

514
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Speaker 3: and then I quit that when I was eighteen, when

515
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Speaker 3: I moved up to Queensland to go to UNI up there,

516
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Speaker 3: and then I wasn't doing anything and so I just

517
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,479
Speaker 3: missed moving my body like I missed I don't know

518
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 3: the flexibility this. I've always had a really big, like

519
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: soul attachment to body movement, like it's been something so

520
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 3: healing for me that I only realized how I feeling.

521
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Speaker 2: It was when I wasn't doing it.

522
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Speaker 3: So once I realized that I wanted to heal myself

523
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Speaker 3: from depression, I figured that that was probably the first step,

524
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 3: like starting to have some kind of routine, especially movement.

525
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Speaker 4: So I'd get up every morning and I go for

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Speaker 4: a run.

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Speaker 2: Again.

528
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Speaker 3: Living close to on the beach, it was beautiful around

529
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 3: burly heads and stuff, it was just divine, So it

530
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: was hard. I'm not actually a morning person as in

531
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Speaker 3: I love. I always get up early if I can,

532
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 3: but it doesn't come naturally, like I have to set

533
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 3: so many alarms. Yeah, and in Queensland the sunrises really early.

534
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Speaker 3: It's like an hour earlyer than everywhere else. So in

535
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Speaker 3: summer it would be bright at like four thirty am.

536
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I'd be like up and running.

537
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Speaker 1: But is that like if you had to offer someone

538
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Speaker 1: who also would say that they're not a morning person,

539
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Speaker 1: like some sort of takeaway on how to become one,

540
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: Like what would you offer them as a pet?

541
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Speaker 3: So many people ask this, Okay, if you want to

542
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: become a morning person, don't worry about your morning, get

543
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 3: to bed early the night before.

544
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Speaker 2: That's where it starts.

545
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 3: Like you can't expect to go to bed at midnight

546
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Speaker 3: or one am and then wake up at five, right.

547
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 4: Like unless you're one of those crazy people.

548
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Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it. If you're want

549
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 2: those people, well done, you need to old star. But

550
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: if you can.

551
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 4: Function on like four hours sleep, then good for you.

552
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: Like how healthy is that? Well?

553
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 3: I mean everyone needs different amounts of sleep, so for

554
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 3: some people, it's fine.

555
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: For me, it's definitely not like I need like eight minimum,

556
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 2: probably like nine hours. Yeah, every night.

557
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 3: So I get to bed really early, Like I me

558
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: in bed most nights by eight, nine o'clock latest, and

559
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: then asleep by like ninth and ten o'clock in the

560
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Speaker 3: absolute latest.

561
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Speaker 2: Like if I'm awake at ten, I'm like, whoa big night,

562
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Speaker 2: Like I'm going to need to get to bed at

563
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Speaker 2: six tomorrow. No, totally, no, I can totally relate.

564
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's the only way that you can get

565
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Speaker 4: up early.

566
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So you're getting up early, you're moving your body.

567
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Speaker 3: And then I will That's when social media kind of started.

568
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 3: So I had a personal Instagram that wasn't anything at

569
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Speaker 3: the time, and I would find photos of yoga posas,

570
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: and because of my history with gymnastics, I was like,

571
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Speaker 3: I wonder whether I can do that, So I would

572
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: try it, and then because I was studying photojournalism, I'd

573
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 3: get up even earlier and go to a private beach

574
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 3: and take photos of the said pose in sunrise at

575
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Speaker 3: the beach, and then those just kind of took off.

576
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 4: So that's kind of where social media started as well.

577
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: And yeah, I just.

578
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: Kind of became known as the girl who was doing handstands,

579
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: so yoga at the beach really early at sunrise, like

580
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: beautiful places, and then on like cliff edges and stuff,

581
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: not like crazy cliff edges, like I'm still safe.

582
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 2: Don't do that.

583
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 3: I definitely don't suggest that anyone does that. That's how

584
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 3: social media, I supposed started. And then I got offered

585
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: to go and take photos for like a fitness retreating bali.

586
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 3: And then once people saw me on that, they were like, hey,

587
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 3: come to Perth and do one with us since I

588
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 3: went to Perth and took photos for.

589
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Speaker 2: This other event.

590
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Speaker 3: And then yeah, just like resorts, airlines, travel tourism boards anywhere,

591
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 3: like people would just brands of contact. You would say, hey,

592
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 3: do you want to come here? And of course I

593
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: was young and I was like, yes.

594
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: I would love to.

595
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 3: So they don't often pay, but a lot of the

596
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: time they're paid for right, And so being young, I'm like,

597
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: of course I'm going to take that opportunity to travel, right.

598
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Speaker 1: And so a few follow up questions, was there anyone

599
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: specific that you were following that you were like, wow,

600
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Speaker 1: I want to.

601
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: Be just like them.

602
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 3: No, And it was the explore page. Yeah, I've never

603
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: looked at anyone in particular, I don't think and wanted

604
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 3: to be them, mainly because we had a really good

605
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: upbringing in the way that I know that our individuality

606
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: is to be embraced. So I've never thought of it

607
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: as a realistic thing to try to be like anyone else,

608
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: Like right, just be you and be the best version

609
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: of yourself.

610
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: Like that's what Mum always instilled in us. And so, yeah,

611
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: so you just wanted to be you were creating your

612
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: own method.

613
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: To the madness exactly exactly, And I mean, I guess

614
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: the second follow up question to that is at the

615
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Speaker 1: time when you're you know, accepting all these opportunities to

616
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: kind of travel the world, like, did you have any

617
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: insight into what was becoming I guess like the business

618
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: of Instagram because you said you were taking this like

619
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Speaker 1: these just these free trips.

620
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, no idea.

621
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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone back then knew like the og

622
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: Instagram influencers, like we didn't know that it could be

623
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Speaker 3: a career. I remember, like I had the most supportive

624
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 3: family ever, Like I was really close with my brother

625
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 3: as well and my mum, and they both said to me.

626
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: They were like, you can't do this as a job,

627
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: like it doesn't pay, like stop putting some I was

628
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 3: getting really stressed because I was working like forty to

629
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 3: sixty hours a week at a restaurant job as well

630
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 3: as doing full time UNI, and then I was trying

631
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 3: to get all these photos all the time, and my like,

632
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: I was really like stressed, calling home to mom being

633
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: like I can't do it and I'm so overwhelmed. And

634
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: she was like, just take a step back, like you

635
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: don't need to take these photos, like it's not your job,

636
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: you're not getting paid to do it, like, don't worry

637
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: about it. And I was like yeah, but like I

638
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: don't know, I really loved it, and I had this

639
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: intuition kind of feeling that was like no, like I

640
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: should do this.

641
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: I need to do this. Whether it was just an

642
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: artistic thing or whether I was just stubborn, I don't know.

643
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: I'm very stubborn.

644
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Speaker 2: Let's get back to it.

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Speaker 1: So do you remember the first time that a brand

668
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Speaker 1: was like, we'd like to pay you actual money to

669
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Speaker 1: work with us.

670
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: It wasn't a brand I actually got contacted by an agent,

671
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: a modeling agency in Brisbane, which is near the Gold

672
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: Coast where I lived, and they were like, hey, come

673
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: in and I.

674
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: Was like, oh, okay, sure they hadn't really thought about it.

675
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: Went in and yeah, they were like, oh, like you do.

676
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: Know that you can be getting paid for these posts

677
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 4: and I was like what.

678
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: I was like, how much are you going to pay me?

679
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: They're like, well, we don't pay you, like we would

680
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: actually get a commission and then like brands would pay

681
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: us and then we'd pay you.

682
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: And I was like that sounds kind of cool.

683
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: And that was kind of how I realized that it

684
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: was lucrative and it did have potential. And then yeah,

685
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: I guess that was also back in the day when

686
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: everyone was like Instagram's temporary, do you know what I mean?

687
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: Everyone thought it was just going to be like the

688
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: next MySpace and then I kind of disintegrate.

689
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, my stairs. Yeah yeah, but how day

690
00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: throw back?

691
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so you start understanding that there's money in this

692
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: at the same time doing all of these yoga pit poses,

693
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: are you teaching classes? Like how is this going down

694
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: or is it just really for the moment at the

695
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: time just for the ground.

696
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 2: I had no idea what yoga was.

697
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: I thought I did because I could do a couple

698
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: of the poses, and then it kind of got out

699
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: of control where I had I almost had imposter syndrome.

700
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: I think that's an actual term, like a psychoagical term,

701
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: where you feel like someone's going to pull you up

702
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: and be like you don't actually know this, Like who

703
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: were you to tell other people what to do?

704
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: And it wasn't that I was telling other people what

705
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: to do.

706
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: It was just that there was such an assumption around

707
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: the fact that I knew yoga and that I was

708
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: I think I'm maybe the second followed yogi on Instagram.

709
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: It was the first.

710
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: I think it's yoga girl, and yeah, and I I

711
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: had no idea what actual yoga was. I could do

712
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: an individual pose, not even many of them, just a

713
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: couple of them and handstands, and so people just assreamed

714
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: I knew what I was doing. I was like, Okay,

715
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to go learn something, so I want to

716
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: did my teacher training for yoga. I did a two

717
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: hundred hour teacher training in Byron Bay. Beautiful place to

718
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: do it. It's I love Australia. I'm especially Byron and

719
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: so I was there for three weeks I think it was,

720
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: and got two hundred hours certified and then began teaching

721
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 3: classes just at my local yoga left which has now.

722
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: Become like my second home.

723
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: Like it's such a family there, it's so community based,

724
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: it's beautiful. And then over the last year and a

725
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: half two years, teaching retreats as well. Yeah, I only

726
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: taught like one and then I had like a year

727
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: of gap and I loved it. I just didn't. I

728
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: wasn't as motivated back then. And then I think the

729
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: business side of stuff is starting to creep up on

730
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: me now where I'm like, I actually want to do that,

731
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: Like I want a business baby, right.

732
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: And did you when you taught your first retreat, was

733
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: that in collaboration with anyone specific or were you kind

734
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: of the one that was called diivating the entire experience?

735
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: No, it was I get contacted by a lot of

736
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: hotels and resorts to do yoga retreats. And it is

737
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: a beautiful resort in Somba. It's called Nihiwatu.

738
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: Where is that.

739
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: It's in Indonesia, so it's close to Bali, but it's

740
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: on its own island, and it's just like Untouched. It's

741
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: got its own surf break. It's the number one hotel

742
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: in a row too, is.

743
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Speaker 2: In a row.

744
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: Like when I did the retreat, so I was like,

745
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: how can I not? Yes, I went and did that.

746
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: It was it's a very expensive place obviously, like the

747
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: number one resort. So it was a really intimate kind

748
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: of retreat. But I got a taste for it and

749
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: I really liked it. And so now I think I

750
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: want to do at least like a couple maybe three

751
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: or four retreats every year from now on.

752
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Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, And I'm doing one in September.

753
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: I think it is in Greece. And like that booked

754
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: out so quick it wasn't funny.

755
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's awesome. I mean it means that there's

756
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: a thirst for what you're putting down.

757
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

758
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: Also, I mean a lot of people ask all the time,

759
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: like you've seen these people doing these crazy yoga posas

760
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: on Instagram or IRL. And the thing about it is

761
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: that when you start doing handstands and stuff like, it

762
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: takes a lot of crazy strength to be able to

763
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Speaker 1: do that. So is this just like legacy strength that

764
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: you had as an athlete handstands.

765
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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I don't remember this, but Mum said that

766
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: as a kid, I would just like walk around the

767
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: grocery center on like on my hands and she would

768
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: just be like, can you just walk in your feet

769
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: like a normal person please?

770
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: Like are all these other kids in the hands?

771
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: No?

772
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: And I was like, well they will be if they

773
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: see me doing it. Yeah.

774
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: And then the flexibility stuff definitely not like that's I

775
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: could do the splits on one leg on a good

776
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: day maybe, but a lot of flexibility has been learned

777
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: over the past couple of years.

778
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Speaker 1: When you work with new students when you practice, do

779
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: you find that they're kind of asking you the same

780
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: questions over and over?

781
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: Like from a beginner point of view, a lot of.

782
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 3: People say that the first thing that you get is

783
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: like the first comment that you hear is often the

784
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: most tipe common as well, it's I'm not flexible, therefore

785
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: I can't do yoga.

786
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: And that's so it's so counter like intuitive.

787
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: It's like, well, if you can't, if you think that

788
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: you're not flexible to do your you have to do

789
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: yoga to get flexible, right, And that's not the point

790
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: of yogur at all, And that's what I'll tell them.

791
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: It's it's not about how far down you can reach

792
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: to the ground. It's not how deep you can go

793
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: into a stretch. It's what you feel and what you

794
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: learn along the way. And it's literally just about connecting

795
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: to your breath, to your body and then surrendering to something.

796
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: Bigger than yourself. And it's so humbling and grounding.

797
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: I know when I was teaching spen thinking about things

798
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: that you're telling your students, I had like a set

799
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: of like five to ten inspirational mantras or like maybe

800
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: a story or something that I would like return back

801
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: to time and time again. Do you have like those

802
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: set of things that like you kind of come back

803
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: to or is it always just like new stuff all

804
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: the time.

805
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

806
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: I think you'd have to be regular in one of

807
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: my classes to tell me. I think I keep it

808
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 3: very lighthearted, like I want my classes to be fun

809
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: and interactive, and I want no one.

810
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: To take it so seriously.

811
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the time yoga, especially everyone

812
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: kind of rocks up with a game face on their

813
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: like in their eye mind they're.

814
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: On their mat and then they kind of.

815
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

816
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: There's almost like an ego attachment to westernize yoga, and

817
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 3: I want it to be light.

818
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: Harded and fun.

819
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 3: I want people to be able to laugh at themselves

820
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: and have a little giggle and connect with other people

821
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: around them. So a lot of time when they get

822
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: on the mat, I'll be like, turn to your neighbors,

823
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: say hi, telling your favorite color, give them a hug,

824
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: give me squeeze. Like even after class when everyone's sweating,

825
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's any one way to make friends, guys,

826
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 3: hug your sweaty neighbor.

827
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: Just get it done. Yeah.

828
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: I do love what you said yesterday, asking us in class,

829
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: you said, is your mindful?

830
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: Are you being mindful? Yeah?

831
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the time I personally definitely

832
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: head to my yoga mat because my mind is full

833
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: and it's hard to flip that switch. And I don't

834
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: necessarily always think there's like a time where you consciously

835
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: are like all right, I'm ready to be mindful. I

836
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: think it's just the act of it that kind of

837
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: makes you able to let go.

838
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's about training your mind too. So now

839
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: every time I head to my mat, like you get

840
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 3: into a different state of mind. Like I get onto

841
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: my matt and I breathe, and I'm like, like, that's

842
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 3: what it means to take a breath. That's what it

843
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: feels like this whole morning, I've just been chest breathing.

844
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: And then I get into my mat and I breathe

845
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: from my belly and throughout my whole limbs and body.

846
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: And that's that's the beautiful part. I think, how do

847
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: you unwind? Is it always through yoga? Definitely yoga, but

848
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 2: other ways too. I mean, like, my partner is really

849
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: good American. Every time I.

850
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: Say partner, it must be austrailing thing.

851
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: Every time I say partner, I mean boyfriend, but like

852
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: I don't know why, Like to us, that's normal.

853
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: And then someone the other day was like, oh, I

854
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: thought that meant.

855
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 3: That you might have been like bye, or a lesbian,

856
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 3: or like maybe you're talking about a business partner.

857
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: So I apologize. I mean a boyfriend. I think I

858
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of different interpretations to that. Yeah,

859
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: I recognize it. There's nothing wrong with any of them. Yeah,

860
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean my boyfriend. Okay, so your boyfriend, Yeah, he's.

861
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: Very good at reading mine the g and he knows

862
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: when I need to wind down a little bit, so

863
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: he'll come and give me a foot.

864
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: Rob or a massage or something like that, and that's

865
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 2: always really nice.

866
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: Or he'll read your book and or we listen to

867
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: podcasts a lot, audiobooks, go for walks in nature. That's

868
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: probably the biggest grounder, like maybe even more so than

869
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: yoga actually, because if I can do yoga in nature,

870
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: that's even better, Like just not even having a mat,

871
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: like just going to the beach or even a strong

872
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: grass and just taking issues off earthing, which means literally

873
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: connecting your energy your feet with the earth and allowing

874
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: your energy to transfer with with muma Earth's.

875
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: And that's the other thing.

876
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: People think that because I do yoga and I'm I'm

877
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: a yoga instructor, that I must be super ZM. And

878
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, hell no, Like I do yoga because without

879
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 3: it I am crazy. I feel about running like yeah, yeah, yeah,

880
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: but I mean that's I do running as well. My

881
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: runs are more so walks and then I run down

882
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 3: the hills because it makes me feel really fast.

883
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: That's fine your practice, but just yeah, every morning, getting

884
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: out getting some sunshine or something like that.

885
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you feel We were talking about this yesterday

886
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: a little bit about this idea of mindfulness, that when

887
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: you became a certified yoga teacher, did you feel that

888
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: suddenly you were more open to being mindful because you

889
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: had a better understanding of what that really meant. Because

890
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: I think and hand in hand with mindfulness is meditation,

891
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: and a lot of people have a hard time getting

892
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: into meditation.

893
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: So I'm just.

894
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: Wondering for you, with your journey with being mindful, maybe

895
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: integrating more meditation in girregular practice, was there a time

896
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: that it kind of felt more natural to you than others?

897
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: Meditation is it's a process. There's like eight limbs of yoga.

898
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 3: Meditation is one of them. The assign of the physical

899
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: practice is another one of them. And that's another misconception.

900
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: People think that yoga is just what you do on

901
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: your mat but it's actually it's not like it's so much.

902
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: It's a whole lifestyle. Meditation is included in that.

903
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: And for a while I was, even once I learned

904
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: more about yoga, I was just more heavy on the

905
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: physical practice. And that's to me, was a meditation. It

906
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 3: was something that I could get my mind out of

907
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: my own mind.

908
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: If that makes any sense.

909
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 3: And I yeah, like it was very centering as well,

910
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 3: but meditation has recently become something that I've grown to

911
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 3: love more and more and again, like there's no right

912
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: or wrong with it, Like that's what every meditation practitioner says,

913
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: like is there's no don't complain about not being able

914
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: to do it. Just close your eyes, breathe, and no

915
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 3: matter what comes up, that's not wrong. Like you did it,

916
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: that was completely successful. It's one hundred percent exactly what

917
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: you were supposed to do and feel. And then the

918
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: more you do it, the more that you'll grow and

919
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: learn from yourself. So I guess, don't give yourself expectations

920
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: about what it should look like. It doesn't need to

921
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: be sitting cross legged on the ground in like lows position,

922
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: hands on the knees making a woodra eyes closed, hands

923
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: at her hands, by you had like headlong in the

924
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: wind on the like in the breeze.

925
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: On the sand and the beach.

926
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: It can, it honestly can be whatever it means for you,

927
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: and for a lot of people, I think the misconception

928
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: and is believing that it needs to look like that.

929
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: Whereas the easiest way to kind of ease into meditation

930
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: is to do your version of meditation. So the things

931
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: that you can leave your body in your mind for

932
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: a little while. So for a lot of people that's

933
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: creativity or art. For other people it's sport and exercise, going.

934
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: For a run or a walk.

935
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 3: Sometimes it is just laying down for ten minutes before

936
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: better and just not using your phone.

937
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean, Like just laying there

938
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: and just listening to your breath right.

939
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 4: And then yeah, I guess just enjoy it and trust

940
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 4: the process.

941
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I love that piece of advice.

942
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: I was thinking as you were talking about like how

943
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: it could feel or how it should look. Do you

944
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: feel as though, because you are open to such a

945
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: wide audience that you have like a certain amount of

946
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: pressure to be or do or whatever a certain way.

947
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: Not at all. Yeah, I think maybe like years ago

948
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: when I had a more unhealthy approach to social media, maybe,

949
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: but now I'm like, I'm I feel like anyway, I'm

950
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: just who I am, Like I don't.

951
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: Care what people think of me.

952
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: It sounds cliche or cheesy or whatever, but like to

953
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 3: y boo, and that's what I do.

954
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how did you shift that dialog because I'm

955
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: sure no matter if you have like ten followers or

956
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: if you have millions of followers, I think that in

957
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: this age of social media and constant feedback and pressure,

958
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: that it's it's hard to change that.

959
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: You're never going to be able to please everyone, like

960
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: never ever, And so I think the most important it's

961
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 3: not even about pleasing yourself.

962
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: It's literally just about.

963
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: Knowing your values, understanding who you are, and then just

964
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: living by that. And then if you do that, you

965
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: won't have any guilt, shame, embarrassment, regret. You'll be a

966
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: completely open book. You have nothing to hide and more

967
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: open to sharing with everyone else. And so I'm just

968
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think also your Vibertractua tribe is

969
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: something like it's a quote that I had ages ago,

970
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: and I guess I live by it unintentionally.

971
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: It's it's more just like I'll.

972
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: Put out the energy in the universe that I am

973
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: that I want to give out, and I will attract

974
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: other people.

975
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 4: With the same frequency.

976
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 3: So I don't think I've met anyone in the past,

977
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: like since high school that I haven't gotten along with

978
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: or I haven't enjoyed being around them, And I think

979
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: that's just because I'm open to everything and everyone and

980
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: I'm not judging them for who they are or who

981
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: they aren't, and so I assume that they're not doing

982
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: the same to me. And if they are, that's not

983
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: the kind of person that I want to be around,

984
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: and it's probably not the kind of person that I go.

985
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: To a trap to be specific, Was there an instance

986
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: in your life because you did reference that there was

987
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: like a pivot point for you with social media? Was

988
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: there a certain thing that happened that kind of made

989
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: you shift the way that you view that platform and

990
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: that platform, I mean Instagram.

991
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's such in general. Yeah, I just I

992
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: became really addicted to it.

993
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is probably twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, and I

994
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 3: couldn't even have a shower without taking my phone in

995
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: with me because I was obsessed with the the comments

996
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: and creating a safe place for anyone who knows me

997
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: or is ever seen on Instagram.

998
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 4: I'm quite a slender person. I'm very skinny.

999
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: I'm very I'm also fit, Like I love my body wholeheartedly,

1000
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: and not because it's skinny, just because it's a body,

1001
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: Like I have legs that allow me to move.

1002
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: I have arms that allowed me to hug.

1003
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 3: I have a big ass heart and not a big ass,

1004
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: but I love that. But my body just allows me

1005
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: to live and to love other people. And that's what

1006
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: I love about my body, and that's what I think

1007
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: everyone should should read their body as it's just a

1008
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: vessel that allows them to be to exist. So even

1009
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: though I am much like very slim, I used to

1010
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 3: get all sorry because I'm very slim. I used to

1011
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: get a lot of negativity from keyboard bowers on the

1012
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 3: fact that I'm skinny, and so people would say, like

1013
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 3: too skinny, like you look at a rac sic like

1014
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: just a bunch of bones, Like it's disgusting, Which it

1015
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: sucks that people feel like they have the right to

1016
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: tell you that your body is.

1017
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: Right or wrong regardless of what your size is.

1018
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 3: So like if you were bigger, you would obviously get

1019
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 3: hate as well, which like the fact that that's obvious sucks.

1020
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: Doesn't like no one's safe. But I would be preaching

1021
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: messages of self love and like loving your body and

1022
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 3: who you are and accepting yourself for whatever that looks

1023
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: like and whatever you look like, and people would say, like,

1024
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: you're only saying that because you're skinny, and it's not

1025
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: because I'm skinny, It's because I've literally just learned to

1026
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: accept that this is who I am, and I know

1027
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: that I'm doing the best thing for my body and

1028
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 3: that I'm healthy, I'm living in a way that is

1029
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: right for me, and so it didn't really matter what

1030
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: anyone else did and or said or thought. And so

1031
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: I think I just I think that mentality, like the

1032
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 3: realization of that, I then kind of just shifted my mindset.

1033
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: And then I don't know whether it was energetically. I

1034
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: know that for some people that's so hippy dippy, but

1035
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: I think I literally just kind of shifted my followers

1036
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: as well as in I don't get much negativity anymore,

1037
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 3: if any and if I do, it definitely doesn't bother

1038
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: me because I know that I'm living my truth and

1039
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: I'm healthy in myself. And if I do get negativity,

1040
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: whether it's aimed at me or anyone else, I'll just

1041
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: instantly block the person delete the comment.

1042
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: But it never really happens. Now, how do you even

1043
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: monitor that many people following you? Well, you don't like,

1044
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: you don't get thousands and thousands and thousands.

1045
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: Of comments on every photo, right right, Yeah, so's it's

1046
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 3: pretty doable.

1047
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: I actually read all my comments.

1048
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: So if you ever follow me and you leave me

1049
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: a comment, I'll read it and I'll probably.

1050
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: Give you a little lot of heart, a lotle heart.

1051
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So shift the dialogue better interaction with social media.

1052
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: You are traveling the world, you're doing yoguru cheets.

1053
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: What else does life look like for you right now?

1054
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: It's I guess I'm in a transitional phase where I

1055
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: am realizing that I do you need to I want

1056
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: to invest more time into building a brand from a

1057
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: creative perspective, and think I've kind of just kind of

1058
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: dogdled along. And I've always trusted the universe almost not

1059
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: too much, but like definitely a lot. So like my

1060
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 3: mum would always be like, well, what are you going

1061
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: to do, like like you've just quit your job at

1062
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: the restaurant, Like what are you going to do? And

1063
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it'll be fine, like I trust

1064
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: the universe or whatever, and she was like, that's not

1065
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 3: how it works, like but it does. Like I'm fine

1066
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 3: and I know that I'll be fine. I've always just

1067
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: had this deep intuition, intuitive feeling that it'll be Okay.

1068
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: Mama's got it.

1069
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 4: So I don't know, like most people, that sounds really

1070
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 4: like hippie, but to me it just kind of it

1071
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 4: feels right.

1072
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so yeah, now I'm at the point where

1073
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, I still trust her, but I want to

1074
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 3: I want to put more energy into actually making and

1075
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 3: manifesting things. So yeah, I've got a bunch of different

1076
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: things over the next couple of years that I want.

1077
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: To work on. And now you work with like a

1078
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: management company.

1079
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've worked with managers for years.

1080
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, since like that's fourteen.

1081
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: Probably What was that like at first, like even onboarding

1082
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: that kind of experience, Like, was it surreal to be like, Wow,

1083
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: I'm at the place where I think that I need

1084
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: to work with someone to help me manage all of this.

1085
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 3: No, because I didn't think I was at that place.

1086
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: It was more just like they offered and I was like, okay, yeah, sure,

1087
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: why not, Like, oh, I'm down for it.

1088
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1089
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 3: I just kind of go with the breeze a lot

1090
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 3: of the time. Yeah, I'm a really fine balance between

1091
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: go with the flow and loving structure, Like it doesn't

1092
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: make any sense to me when I'm home. I love

1093
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 3: my structure, and then when I'm on holidays or trips,

1094
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, well I'll just do.

1095
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Speaker 2: Whatever what I'm meant to do.

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Speaker 1: And you said that retreats are on your radar, So

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Speaker 1: I mean aside from retreats, like if you had to

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Speaker 1: think of like your wish list for the next five years,

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Speaker 1: is there anything else like exciting and fun that you

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Speaker 1: kind of want to implement?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. I don't know how many of

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Speaker 3: these things I should tell.

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Speaker 2: You, but give me one spoiler alerte books good.

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Speaker 3: Yes, if I tell you how soon they're coming or whatever,

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Speaker 3: that I'll spoil it.

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Speaker 2: Then I won't be got to make my expectation.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think, but that don't you think sometimes that

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Speaker 1: that's also the beauty of something like social media is

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00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: like when you put something out into the universe and

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Speaker 1: then you have one million people that are following you.

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Speaker 4: Fun fact?

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Speaker 3: You want?

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Speaker 2: No fun fact? I would love a fun fact.

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Speaker 3: Apparently a thirteen three point three percent more likely to

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Speaker 3: stick to something if you tell people about it, love it.

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Speaker 3: So you guys are now holding me. I'm ready holding

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Speaker 3: me to this. I will personally hold your account. You

1118
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 3: will be shooting you about it in like two years.

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Speaker 2: Are you doing it?

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Speaker 3: You up?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? Are you doing what you wanted to do?

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Speaker 1: I interviewed someone once who told me that he has

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Speaker 1: a phone call with his mentor every Wednesday at seven am,

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Speaker 1: and he only he must call him at seven am.

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Speaker 1: If he calls it seven oh one, the mentor doesn't answer. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we talk about accountability, right, brutal. I'm going to be

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00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: that person, Briya.

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Speaker 2: But I like it. We'll talk about the terms on

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Speaker 2: that later.

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Speaker 3: But you're a little bit more friendly, like you would

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00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: still handsome, you'd be like, girl, I'm knocking, I'm not wait,

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Speaker 3: well you a minute ago.

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Speaker 2: I know I was on the.

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Speaker 1: Toilet, Okay, so wait, tell me what the tell me

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Speaker 1: what I'm keeping you accountable?

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Speaker 3: On books, I'm going to publish a couple of books,

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00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 3: awesome one. I think the first one is probably going

1138
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 3: to be a relatable self help book. I think that's

1139
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 3: that's always what I've wanted to channel my history and

1140
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Speaker 3: my story into.

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Speaker 4: Now that I've realized it, it can be so helpful

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Speaker 4: for other people.

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Speaker 3: I want to make sure that I can help as

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Speaker 3: many people as possible, And I think a book is

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00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: a good way to do that. I also enjoy writing,

1146
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: so maybe a book of pros and like poems that

1147
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: I write a couple of other books, but I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Going to tell you what those are. Just and yoga mats.

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00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 2: I'm hoping to do that soon.

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Speaker 3: Definitely retreats, and then I think eventually I want to

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Speaker 3: do retreat have a retreat space, probably in Kawaii, where I.

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Speaker 2: Can raise my family.

1153
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have dogs, We're gonna have a perpaculture farm.

1154
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: We live sustainably off the land, like waste free. And yeah,

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00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: we do like yoga retreats to be a space that

1156
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: we can just come. People can connect and share and

1157
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: grow together, which I think is really cool.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything specific that you kind of lean into

1160
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: in terms of service that you want to provide people

1161
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: that are coming to you from that angle from this

1162
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: like I'm struggling situation, because I think that it can

1163
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: be a little overwhelming if you're someone that's super empathetic

1164
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: and you want to help everyone, and it feels so

1165
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: great when you can help, but it's hard when so

1166
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: many people are looking to you for guidance. So are

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Speaker 1: there any themes or things that you kind of resonate

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Speaker 1: on with the people that reach out to you.

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Speaker 3: I think the first thing to recognize or understand is

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Speaker 3: that's it's I'm happy and more than welcome and open

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Speaker 3: to guiding them, but I know that it's not my

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00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 3: responsibility to change them. That's everyone's personal journey and that's

1173
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: your biggest lesson. Like, that's a blessing and it's an

1174
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Speaker 3: honor to be able to learn that for yourself. And

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Speaker 3: so like I know that most people probably wouldn't expect

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Speaker 3: me to be able to provide that for them. I

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Speaker 3: moll just want to serve as a hug I guess,

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Speaker 3: like a physical embodiment of a hug or sunshine. Like

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Speaker 3: I want to inspire and warm and be there like

1180
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: an older sister, like a big sister. That's just just

1181
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 3: their open arms whenever you need it, and happy to listen,

1182
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 3: happy to offer support and guidance where I can. But

1183
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 3: in saying that, I know that I'm not a professional

1184
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 3: of any sort. So if anyone does need professional support, like,

1185
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 3: I'm also open to helping them find that person or

1186
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 3: help them to seek the help that they do need.

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Speaker 1: And certainly, I mean I can totally relate with that.

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Speaker 1: I think as someone who lost a lot of wheat,

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Speaker 1: I have people that reach out to me looking for

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00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: tricks to nutritional advice, and I can give you some

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00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: of the tips and the tricks that I use to

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Speaker 1: lose wheat. But at the end of the day, like

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Speaker 1: I'm not a certified nutritionist, I'm not a registered dietitian.

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Speaker 1: So everyone's body is different and everybody is different. So

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Speaker 1: I can be there for you in the capacity that

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's see for me to be there

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 2: But I have certainly referred people that have reached out

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Speaker 2: to me. You should.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like, that's a scary kind of issue with

1201
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 3: social media, like having a lot of followers or something.

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Speaker 4: People assume that you're a reliant source.

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Speaker 3: Of facts and information, and the only fact that we

1204
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 3: know is what's true to us.

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Speaker 2: So true. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So we're winding down here, and the way that we

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Speaker 1: do that here on hurdle is I want to ask you,

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Speaker 1: if you had the opportunity to offer yourself maybe back

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Speaker 1: when you're between the ages of sixteen and eighteen, you're

1210
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Speaker 1: going through that really tough time, one piece of advice

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Speaker 1: during your hurdle moment, what would you say to yourself today?

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Speaker 4: I think it wouldn't be necessarily words.

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Speaker 3: I think it would be more just offering myself a hug,

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00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: Like it would just be like, I'm here, You're fine,

1215
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: You're going to be fine.

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Speaker 2: I got your girl.

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00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, just letting her slash me. Know that, buck, I'm

1218
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 3: in the worst. And I didn't have to be the

1219
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: fact that I was doing it to myself. What the

1220
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 3: life that you have is the life that you can

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Speaker 3: create for yourself, and I was just creating.

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Speaker 2: The wrong things. Yeah, awesome, I'm so happy we got

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Speaker 2: to do this. So my thanks, I know so good.

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Speaker 1: Please take a moment to leave a quick review by

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00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: clicking the link with the description to this episode. We

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Speaker 1: all face multiple hurdles in life, and I want to

1227
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Speaker 1: hear about yours. Reach Out to me by email Emily

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Speaker 1: at Hurdle dot us. Connect with the podcast on Instagram

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Speaker 1: and Twitter at Hurdle Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Where do they find you? Give me the details.

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Speaker 3: At Ciana Elise on Instagram. It's so hard to spell, though,

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Speaker 3: so I'm really.

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Speaker 2: Spelling for me. S J A N A E L

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Speaker 2: I S beautiful release. There you go? Anything else? Anywhere else?

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Speaker 2: I should look for you.

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Speaker 3: I've got a website www dot dot com dot a you.

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00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah, well I'm Australian fancy on YouTube as well,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, see you there.

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Speaker 4: I'm also hoping to start a podcast soon, so.

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Speaker 2: You'll have to have that's the other thing. You'll have

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Speaker 2: to hold me to that one. Oh goodness, and then

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Speaker 2: you'll have to come on my partty. This is the bit.

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Speaker 2: Did you just say party? Yeah, my putty? Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: what a way to end amazing.

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Speaker 1: I am at Emily Abadi. Another hurdle conquered. Catch you

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Speaker 1: guys next time.