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Speaker 1: because you're saying that that debate Mark Mariota against Winston's dead.

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Speaker 1: But what done to hes run away with that? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's he hasn't had a chance that any chances to

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Speaker 1: stick it to Greg on air recently, so you had

427
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Speaker 1: to get through that jab in there. It's a fair point.

428
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Speaker 1: The three touchdowns and three interceptions this year from Mariota

429
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Speaker 1: and and another injury has really finally put him over

430
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Speaker 1: the top. Well, I can't I can't deny the injury stuff,

431
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Speaker 1: but it's pretty clear that he's better on the feet.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Yourbisky. Why do you love Dr Bisky

433
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Speaker 1: so much less? Well, first of all, I see when

434
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Speaker 1: I watch him play, I see Brett Farvello, and he is.

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Speaker 1: It shocks me that Kyle Shanahan, who is the NFL's

436
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Speaker 1: biggest proponent of the boot action offense, bypassed the guy

437
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: who's perfect for the boot action offense. He he has.

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Speaker 1: He has that ability to throw with arm strength into

439
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Speaker 1: tight windows on the runs. Well, is any young quarterback

440
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: I've seen in a long time? And I love that

441
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: Bears game. People look at the box scor and say

442
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: he didn't do anything. I thought he was really impressive. Well,

443
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: he's not getting help from the people around him. You

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Speaker 1: imagine him being plugged into an offense where you had

445
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: reliable pass catching targets and a little bit more from

446
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: your running backs in the game that he played at least.

447
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: What about on the Ravens side. Let's talk about the

448
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,719
Speaker 1: Ravens because I can't I can't figure this team out, Greg.

449
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: I mean, they're three and two right now. I can

450
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Speaker 1: see them going six or ten or ten and six,

451
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Speaker 1: And you can push me in any direction and I'll

452
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Speaker 1: go along with it. I think their defense, which has

453
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Speaker 1: been disappointing overall, can get better, and that in this matchup,

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Speaker 1: it's really gonna test Trabinsky and test the running backs

455
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Speaker 1: for Chicago and test the protection for Chicago, because Baltimore

456
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Speaker 1: can send a lot of different looks at you. And

457
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Speaker 1: sometimes we we've killed, like let's say the Raiders last week,

458
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Speaker 1: you know, for past protection, and a lot of times

459
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: it's the running backs in the tight ends who don't

460
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Speaker 1: know who to pick up. And this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: really a big test for Trabinsky and this coaching half.

462
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Speaker 1: And because I think the Ravens defense has enough to

463
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Speaker 1: get it done pretty easily this week. And you also

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Speaker 1: think watching Rabinsky, the one thing I worry about is

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Speaker 1: a little bit like with Jared Goff, It's like, what

466
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Speaker 1: are we doing here for this season? Are are Is

467
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: he just getting live reps with a coaching staff and

468
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Speaker 1: even teammates that aren't gonna be there next year. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's probably what's happening. So he's getting experience, but it's

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Speaker 1: with a in a system that he's ultimately not gonna stay.

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Speaker 1: But don't you think in in essence that had they

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Speaker 1: held on with golf on the sideline all last year,

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Speaker 1: he would have been starting from a much different place

474
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Speaker 1: this season it was. It wasn't the year, but experience

475
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Speaker 1: playing him. I just it's just a strange thing to

476
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Speaker 1: think about that that, yes, he's the future, but we

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Speaker 1: don't know what the rest of the people around him

478
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Speaker 1: will be. He has such defined skills that whatever coaches

479
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: next is going to be using a rollout often. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how Alex Collins got

481
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Speaker 1: so good that well before we Hafore we move on.

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Speaker 1: Dann Skrish dan Irish dancing. I think the Ravens are

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Speaker 1: the kind of team there gonna go about nine and

484
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Speaker 1: seven this season. I like Trabisky, but I'm locking this

485
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Speaker 1: up for the Ravens. WHOA, I have a strategy with

486
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Speaker 1: my locks. I have been pretty successful a little late,

487
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Speaker 1: and I'm sticking to my secret. Take a heavy favorite,

488
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Speaker 1: that's a great stress. Well, I'm gonna third to do it.

489
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Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't create that strategy, but I

490
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Speaker 1: finally can do that starting next week because Greg has

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Speaker 1: been a little flipping because he's been struggling and pretending

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Speaker 1: like no one's tracking. Let's let's plug in on what

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Speaker 1: the standings are. I think a t M lock lock

494
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Speaker 1: up on Twitter. He does a nice job with joy

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Speaker 1: or she Uh, Let's let's get on top of this.

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Speaker 1: I just want to see where everybody's at this this

497
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Speaker 1: at this point in the season, I'm done that. My

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Speaker 1: My issue with the locks was, if you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a competition in theory that you're actually keeping track of

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Speaker 1: it now you're referencing it, a competition needs to have rules,

501
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Speaker 1: Like it's not just this random thing that it was.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of west this thing to begin with. He

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Speaker 1: never understood the lock, Greg, you are nothing of that

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00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: boundless fund anyway. Just take then you just take a

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Speaker 1: heavy favorite? Are you are you saying that maybe we

506
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Speaker 1: should get rid of the segment. Um all right, it's

507
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: about honor. It's about honor thyself. If you're gonna take

508
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Speaker 1: a heavy favorite, which I'm not saying Mark did here,

509
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Speaker 1: then you have by the way, I mean, traditionally, I've

510
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Speaker 1: taken ridiculously underdog picks for the lock and I've gotten

511
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Speaker 1: crushed for it while everyone else is just taking that's

512
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: all the Patriots over the Dolphins and Oxboro, what a stretch.

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00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I mean that you're whatever your

514
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: standings are unfair because you've taken monster underdogs very often.

515
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Speaker 1: It's I think everyone is a good point by if

516
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Speaker 1: you take heavy underdogs, then you can mix it up

517
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Speaker 1: and take some favorites. Just have some respect for yourself,

518
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Speaker 1: that's all. That's all. It's not that complicated. Nobody should

519
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Speaker 1: be trying to get one over on anyone else. Just

520
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: our system, guys, we've been doing this like five years together.

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Speaker 1: Let's just respect each other. That's all. Listeners completely wondering

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Speaker 1: what's happening now, Moving on the clear. Then Brown's traveling

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Speaker 1: to Houston to face the Texans. Um Greg Greg this um,

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Speaker 1: you know, de Shaun Watson should be on the Browns,

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Speaker 1: right now let's be honest, and now they gotta get

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Speaker 1: it rubbed in their face. But fair enough. You know

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Speaker 1: we talked about that. I want to talk about this

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Speaker 1: right now. Mark you are you're trying to stay off

529
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Speaker 1: this narrative that the Browns have not royally screwed themselves here,

530
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: not at all. I absolutely believe that narratives. And it's

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Speaker 1: it's the list of quarterbacks they passed on. He's not

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Speaker 1: even in my top foot on passed. Other teams have

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Speaker 1: passed on Deshaun Watson, for instance, But the Browns two

534
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: years ago traded out of the pick that became Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 1: and then last year they traded out of the pick

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Speaker 1: that directly became Deshaun Watson. I mean, are you are

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Speaker 1: you attempting to break news? And no team, it's not like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the Browns are the only team. No, the Browns are

539
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Speaker 1: directly involved in this like no one else in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: And no team, including the Jets, has had worse quarterback

541
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Speaker 1: troubles in the Browns. So what they've done here is

542
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Speaker 1: inexcusable and they deserve to be held to the fire

543
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Speaker 1: and they deserve to be embarrassed by de Shaun Watson

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, which is I think what's gonna happen. I'm

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Speaker 1: not so sure it's gonna happen because to me, the

546
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: Texans are a limited team overall. Without Whitney, Merciless and J. J. Watt,

547
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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna get out of them. There.

548
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Speaker 1: They have a potential for a great running game and

549
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is really fun to watch, but he's still

550
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Speaker 1: very young, and he's gonna have some bad halfs and

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Speaker 1: on Sunday night, we right. I mean the thing if

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Speaker 1: I was a Browns fan that would trouble me watching Watson,

553
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: that this isn't just a fast start and like this

554
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: was a really potentially great franchise quarterback that will be

555
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Speaker 1: around is he's so much more talented than we heard

556
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Speaker 1: coming out. Like we heard he was Alex Smith, like

557
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: in terms of his arm, in terms of being a

558
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: game manager, his arm is so underrated. He can make

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Speaker 1: any throw in the books. His his deep passes is beautiful.

560
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's a sexy deep ball. He's thrown it

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Speaker 1: like across his body sixty yards. Like this guy's about

562
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Speaker 1: its talented. As a gag, that's sort of my point though,

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Speaker 1: is that it's everyone get You can get on the

564
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Speaker 1: Browns all you want for passing on a million players

565
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Speaker 1: that should have picked, no argument, But who when the

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Speaker 1: Texans took to Shaun Watson. How many of us, how

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Speaker 1: many people in our news when we're saying great move,

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Speaker 1: great pick, you didn't even you watch the way that

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Speaker 1: the tabill O'Brien and the front office sat when that

570
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Speaker 1: trade was made. It didn't even look like they were

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Speaker 1: on the same page. It felt like a desperate trade

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Speaker 1: up move. No one was talking about Watson this way.

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Speaker 1: He has surprised people. I mean, his development at this

574
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: at this rate has been surprising. But it's more, you

575
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Speaker 1: know what it is. It's even from like the podcast standpoint,

576
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: they should one of these two guys they should have taken.

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Speaker 1: I just you can't take them off the hook for it.

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00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: They should have either had Wentz or Watson by now.

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Speaker 1: But instead, I don't think we're taking them off the

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Speaker 1: hook though. It's just like, well, you're trying to a

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Speaker 1: little I'm not at all, but Dan, I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't be I couldn't be more downtrodden with the

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00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: Cleveland football experience, right, now from a podcast scenario, because

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Speaker 1: we're still talking about how terrible the Browns are and

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00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: shouldn't be the Has anymore. They had their ticket to

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Speaker 1: get out and they didn't take it twice, that's all.

587
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: And yet they they can put up some yards on

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Speaker 1: this team. And I think with you liked what you

589
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Speaker 1: saw to Kevin Hogan West last week. Yeah, when we

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Speaker 1: came out of training camp and Cody Kessler was behind

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Speaker 1: Kevin Hogan, I was beside myself because Kevin Hogan, we

592
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Speaker 1: saw last year had the most grotesque throwing motion in

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Speaker 1: the league and maybe the most grow testuey I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: It was hideous look away. And then this year he

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Speaker 1: he puts in the work. You can tell that Hugh

596
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: Jackson has done some good with him. He's fixed his

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Speaker 1: throwing motion. It's very much streamlined, and he moved the

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Speaker 1: offense every time he comes in. I don't he's a

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Speaker 1: mobile quarterback too. I'll say for the Cleveland should have

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Speaker 1: beaten the Jets last week. They got in their own way.

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Speaker 1: They outplayed the Jets. I'm not saying by a large margin.

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Speaker 1: But there are little things for all the killing we

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00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: want to do, and there are little things that have worked.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the tight end Dave and the

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00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: Joku shows promise Myles Garrett completely looked apart. They didn't

606
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Speaker 1: blow that pick. From what we can see after one game,

607
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: there are little things. It's just what it's half being

608
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: way too slow and Johnson's finally having the season. But

609
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: it all feels kind of lost, doesn't It all feel

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00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: kind of lost in the overall experience. It feels like

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson is the football's version of Bou Porter. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and for I know you probably don't know who Boot

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Speaker 1: bou Porter is, but there's some similarities between the Browns

614
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: and the Houston Astros who brought in this analytics team.

615
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: Bow Porter was the manager and he suffered through losing seasons.

616
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Speaker 1: They fire him, and the next coach benefits from your

617
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, your peppers, you're in. Joe Wu had a

618
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: coming out party last week in Duke Johnson And I

619
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Speaker 1: know we're not allowed to talk about anything going that

620
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Speaker 1: goes on in the desert or whatnot. Never never, and

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Speaker 1: I would never would. But I'm just saying, looking at

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Speaker 1: this game, the Texans to me, should not be a heavy,

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Speaker 1: heavy favorite against any team, right now to me, they're

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00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: up for grabs. I don't know if this is gonna

625
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: be a good team at all, Like they can lose

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00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: any game. Nothing is a lot. It's j J. Watt,

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Speaker 1: no Whitney, merciless rest of the year, and it really

628
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: now tests them whether they are a team to really

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Speaker 1: reckon with or if they've just lost too much on

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00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: that side of the ball. We'll start to find out.

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Speaker 1: We put it this way, if they struggle with the Browns,

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00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: it's a very bad sign. I think we all agree.

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Speaker 1: They're moving on. The green Bay Packers traveling to Minnesota

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Speaker 1: to face uh the Vikings is a nice little matchup here,

635
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Aaron Rodgers and the Packers offense and then

636
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: that Vikings d that is strong, especially at home. Great matchup.

637
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: I like the fact that Green Bay, which is clearly

638
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: on offense, has been rounding into shape as the season's

639
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: gone along. You have Aaron Jones now. I always like

640
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: the Packers more when they can show balance and when

641
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: they actually have a running game and they do. David

642
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: back try out last week sounds like he will be back.

643
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: You had Brian Bulago last week in the lineup. You've

644
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: got your tackles back, You've got a ground game. Aaron

645
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: Rodgers is playing the best he's played in a long

646
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: time right now. This is a very dangerous matchup for Minnesota.

647
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: That said, you got exe of your roads. This defense, honestly,

648
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: is is fun to watch. A think this is It's

649
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: so impossible to take this rivalry serious in previous years.

650
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: I do. Right now. I think the Vikings can hang

651
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: with Green Bay in this game. It's a really good matchup,

652
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: especially that Aaron Jones, who is is coming off a

653
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: very impressive performance going against what I think is the

654
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: best defensive front four in the NFL, and Everson Griffin

655
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: is playing like an all pro. Daniel Hunter is John

656
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: Gruden's comparing him to a young Trail Suggs and Joseph

657
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: that it claims to want that body as his own.

658
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: Oh I've been thinking about that, by the way, because

659
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: I kind of got caught flat footed with that when

660
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: you guys are like, oh yeah, I always think about

661
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: like whose body i'd want in an ideal situation, and

662
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: obviously I'm no different. I'd love to have a better body,

663
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: but I've I've actually narrowed it down. I found the

664
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Speaker 1: exact body that I want okay, okay, And if you're

665
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: a person of a certain age, you'll know exactly what

666
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about it. If not, you'll just have to

667
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: try to picture it. Okay, it's Mark Paul Gosseler, who

668
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: played Zach Morris. Let's say by the bell. But we're

669
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: talking fall, We're talking the third season. Isn't he really skinny? There?

670
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: We're talking the third season. We're talking right around the time. No, No,

671
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: he's he had some he had some hip to him. Um,

672
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: and he had some pecks. He had some pecks. This

673
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: is right around the time where he blew out his

674
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: A c L when Belding walked into the locker room

675
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: before the big basketball game and then right west he

676
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: miraculously recovered from that because then the next episode they

677
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: were at malbou Sands, the summer episode, and uh, and

678
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: Zack Morris's body at that period, not later on, like

679
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: the senior year and especially the college years, he started

680
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: to get a little puffy. Um. No, not any Zack Morris,

681
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: specifically the fall and even hyper specifically September October. Your

682
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: amount of research and you know, ability to zero in

683
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: on this topic is intriguing and well because it is.

684
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure that I got that

685
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: out there, and I wanted to give it thought well everyone,

686
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: everyone was wondering. So you know, glad that I'll raise

687
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: you Brad Pitt from Fight Club and you can have

688
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: your October Zach from say by the Bed. You don't

689
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: think it's a little weird to want the body of

690
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old lifeguard, Well, I mean he was.

691
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: I think he was probably older. You know, they aged

692
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: down in Hollywood in Tinseltown. But if he was a

693
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: team well maybe that is you are attempting to bring

694
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Tinseltown back into the lexicon. This has happened that. Yeah,

695
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: I told Mark that privately yesterday that I'm bringing Tinseltown back.

696
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: Probably would look like anybody on the planet. I'd probably

697
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: want to look like Hunter Um. Anyway, final thoughts about

698
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: this game. Sorry. The Vikings passing attack has been really

699
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: effective with case Keenum. He he deserves a lot of credit.

700
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Like if you look at Football Outsiders right now, this

701
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: is the number five offense in the league in the

702
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: defense is sixteen. I don't know if Keenum can totally

703
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: keep it up, but I think Pat Shermer has done

704
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: a really good job and that they should be taken

705
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: seriously like he is in the top eight or nine

706
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: right now in QBR in Pro Football Focus. They've been

707
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: efficient as a passing attack with case Keenum. It's one

708
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: of the more surprising things of the season. Signed for

709
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: two million dollars. I'll tell you why I'm not taking

710
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: him seriously because I'm locking it up class. We told

711
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: you you gotta take easy right now. I feel that

712
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: good about the Packers right now. I love it. We

713
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: want your pipes through the show. But you got it.

714
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: That's a lock with authority. Did did you vaulted? I

715
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: didn't even hear if you vaulted it, give me another vault,

716
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: see lou It's basically if and then if the Vikings

717
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: lose their out of this division race, more or less,

718
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: you gotta win this game out. Yeah, let's move on.

719
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: The Lions um are traveling to No Orlans to face

720
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: the Saints. UH A Lions team coming off loss at

721
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: home to the Panthers, a tough loss um where they

722
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: couldn't get a stop at the end of the game

723
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: to get back on the field, and now they they

724
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: face west to say Aints, who couldn't look worse in

725
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: the first two weeks, but in the last two weeks

726
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: the defense has really showed up and made plays, and

727
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: that is something to hang their hat on. Well, yeah,

728
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: I think when you when you watch what happened last

729
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: week and k Wan Short having his way with the

730
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: Lions offensive line, you wonder, can Cam Jordan, who's playing

731
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: just about as well as any defensive lineman in the league,

732
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: can he do the same thing two a Lions offensive

733
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: line that did have struggled the last couple of weeks.

734
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Stafford has taken six sacks last week, he

735
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: took six sacks the week before. It's been brutal. How

736
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: long can you last? And this is a team that

737
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: has pretty defined limitations. It does not go down the

738
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: field like that. They are condensed offense, not dissimilar to

739
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: the Saints. They're they're kind of similar offenses, but I

740
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: trust Drew Brees to run it better. And the difference is,

741
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: I like the Saints in short yard situations with mark Ingram,

742
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: whereas the Lions when they were trying to pick up

743
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: a third and one or a fourth and one against

744
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: against Carolina, they're getting blown back on the line of

745
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: scrimmage and they have lightweight running backs. The Lion really

746
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: shouldn't be missing Cannon Golladay as much as they right exactly,

747
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: they do miss, and it looks like he could be

748
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: back for this game, which would be big. Maybe if

749
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: Ricky Braun stopped dropping everything thrown to him, they wouldn't miss.

750
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: Can you make a play? That's all I'm asking to

751
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: who's picked West two picks after Ericade Beckham. I'm not

752
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: saying that that means you need to be Odell Beckham,

753
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: But can you catch a ball in the end zone?

754
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: Can you convert a big first down in a big

755
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: spot When you're asking Marvin Jones to be the number

756
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: one guy and you got Kenny goll Day praying that

757
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: a rookie turns into ninety eight Moss. All you need

758
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: is your tight end that you put so much into

759
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: to make a couple. He's been on your radar. I

760
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: I do like for New Orleans get out so many

761
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: different things. Yeah, we's come up a couple of times.

762
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: Well it's yeah, it's fad that he now has a

763
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: weekly apology on Twitter to the Lions fans, not after

764
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: apologies for his play. Don't we think it's having Willie

765
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: sneed back is a big, a big addition for the Saints.

766
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: It's yeah, he's he's one of the most underrated wide

767
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: receivers in the league. I think that is. And this

768
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: is this is the first game without Adrian Peter person

769
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: which probably doesn't change their game, but it does at

770
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: the very least remove any headaches or any type of

771
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: like distractions for the team that that can't hurt either.

772
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: I want to see if this Saints defense is average, Like,

773
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. They've had such a strange season, the

774
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: fact that they're the only team that really did a

775
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: great job shutting down Carolina and then they shut down Miami,

776
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: but everyone shuts down Miami. Like, I don't know. If

777
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: they're at average defense, they're gonna be a playoff content.

778
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: This feels like a good spot for them to have

779
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: another good defensive showing, and if they do, you give

780
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: them credit. But then I want to see what happens

781
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: when they get the Packers of the week after that,

782
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: and we'll see more about we should say good. I

783
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: am constant checkpoints for Dan's approval. What about like the Dolphin?

784
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: Are we gonna get that crazy that they shut down

785
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: the Dolphins? No, they Breeze, who who's thirty eight years old,

786
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: and he doesn't seem to be aging, while Eli Manning

787
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: and and all the that classes aging. If if he

788
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: can get supported by an average defense, I mean they'll

789
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: be they'll be in the mix this year. You should

790
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: our goodbyes in case this is it too. One of

791
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: the best defensive plays players of the era, held Nata,

792
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: who is on ir with an elbow injury and was

793
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: off to his best start with the Lions, and they

794
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: have a really good run defense. I wonder if that

795
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: stays like that, but it could be a borderline Hall

796
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: of Famer. Okay, let's move on one quick aside. Mark

797
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: Paul Gossler was about nineteen and a half years old

798
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: in September. Really change changes everything that we would have

799
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: almost twenty so just barely a teen just I mean,

800
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: you're still on the wrong side of you know, him

801
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: being a hot team. That's what it's, you know, not

802
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: a big deal is that you're not helping yourself legal.

803
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: Why did you need to go back into that that

804
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: that because I just wanted to make it clear that

805
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't pining to be a fourteen year old or

806
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: something that's talking that's basically I'm it's still a very

807
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: strange pick by you. There's no way around it. We're

808
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: not going to discuss it again today if we can

809
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: help it moving on. The New England Patriots, you never know,

810
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: it probably won't come up again, but it is on

811
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: the record now. Uh, it will be used against me

812
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: in the court of law. The New England Patriots are

813
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: three and two, which is good for first place in

814
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: the a f C East. But you know who else

815
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: is at first place in the East. The New York Jets,

816
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: who are also three and two, and now the Patch

817
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: travel to the meadow Lands. Um, the Jets actually have

818
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: if you don't count a weird season, guys, if you

819
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: don't count the Chiefs, the Jets have the longest winning

820
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: streak in the NFL right now. Who would have thought

821
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: that would ever be the case? Now, Greg, I'll say

822
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: this though, am I now gonna say? Oh? I think

823
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna shock the world and beat the Patriots.

824
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think the Patriots are gonna

825
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: take care of business. But can you imagine can you

826
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: imagine if they somehow pull it out, the whole world

827
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: would be upside down? I almost hope that that happens

828
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: for you, because I mean, it's just been such a tough,

829
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, time for the New York sports fan, and

830
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: now you know, they finally got these upstart Yankees back

831
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 1: and maybe the first place Sunday, And how great would

832
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: that be for for every one? It would be? I mean,

833
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: if you think about it. Yeah, the Yankees had the

834
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: big win over the Indians in Game five, and the

835
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: Red Sox got knocked out of the playoffs and fired

836
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: their manager. In the same day, the Yankees won the

837
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: Jets then beat the Patriots. Watch out Nick's vers Celtics.

838
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: Maybe that goes our way. Everything's changing. I don't know,

839
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: probably not, though it's still a Week six game. But

840
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: you want to see the Patriots continue to round into

841
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: form defensively. I mean that that's the main that's the test,

842
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: that's the main thing I'm looking for this This should

843
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: be a passing attack that they can handle. I flick

844
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: last it was a real turning point for them on

845
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: defense last week, and I was getting killed because I

846
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: still think it's gonna happen. I said, I thought New

847
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: England will will probably finish the year with the top

848
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: ten defense. After all, this early season dramatics and it's like, bro,

849
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: do you even watch football? It's like, hey, would it

850
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: be that crazy? It's very possible to make up. They

851
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: do it. They communicate. I thought the communication issues were

852
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: fixed last week in the secondary to some degree. You

853
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: gotta keep doing it. Then the Jets are a nice

854
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: opponent to have is the Jets have been okay on offense,

855
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: maybe a little on the lesser side of okay. So

856
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: it's a good spot for the Patriots that have another

857
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: potential good defensive showing before they take on the Falcons

858
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: next weeks. I got nothing to move on, alright, fair enough,

859
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: anybody think the Jets come within a field goal? I

860
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: think they could. They've even in their trashiest forms. They've

861
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: they played the Patriots well under Rex Ryan and weird games,

862
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: and I think it's possible they're opportunistically in that Cleveland game,

863
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: they stepped in and took the game away from Cleveland

864
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: with the turnovers they created their secondary. I do think

865
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: the Jets are just they're well coached, they're kind of feisty.

866
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: They don't they don't have much of a pass rush,

867
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: not really great at anything, and so a lot of

868
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: it's scheming, and so maybe Todd Vols has a great day,

869
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: but I could see it going the other way. I

870
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: could see the Patriots having their best game of the

871
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 1: season and putting it on I like to get Rex

872
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: Burke head back. I think he was going to be

873
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: a bigger part of the offense. He's been out for

874
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: three weeks or two weeks, and I want to give

875
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: a shot. You got the nice long layoff from the

876
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: Thursday to the last time. They dropped the Saints quite

877
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: easily when they had that UM and a shout out

878
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: to Jets fans because players showed up and filled up

879
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: that building. And now they're gonna get a nice little

880
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: Week six game. It could be all downhill from here

881
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: because the Jets have the second hardest schedule in the

882
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: league starting now, so this can turn ugly quick, but

883
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: at least you get this game moving on. The San

884
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners, UH, one of two winless teams in

885
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: the NFL, now travel to Washington, UH to face the Redskins,

886
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: another team coming off of by and right now West

887
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: or excuse me, Mark there. We're not gonna have any

888
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: Josh Norman for the Redskins. That won't help. But the

889
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: forty Niners they have a lot of problems, including they

890
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: can't win a close game. Every week they're losing a

891
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: close game. I'm more encouraged by the forty Niners. I'm

892
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: not saying that they're, you know, on the doorstep, but

893
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: then I am of a bunch of other teams with

894
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: crappy records right now. I think they've played, they've stuck

895
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: in these games. I think last week number one, you

896
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: how about Brian Horror will not be the quarterback of

897
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: this team next year, so it's it's it's not worth

898
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: the laboring too much over him. But you finally saw

899
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,479
Speaker 1: with Pierre Garson and Marcus Goodwins some some progress made

900
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: with the downfield passing game. I'm concerned about how after

901
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: watching them get fried, t Y Hilton and Jacoby Brissette

902
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: just took care of that secondary. Now you're playing a

903
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: Redskins team that took some shots. It seems like that

904
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: game was ages ago, but took some shots against The

905
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs made progress with their own passing game as well.

906
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tough test for San Francisco to

907
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: going to win this one. I thought last game was

908
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: Marquis goodwins best game. Yeah, finally, you finally, even in

909
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: the preseason you saw some of that. In the regular

910
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: season was like the first time that showed up. I

911
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: felt like, this is like the Kyle Shanahan this is

912
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: your life season. First he goes up against McVeigh, and

913
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: my confused mcmcveigh was against the Redskins, and now Kyle

914
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: Shanahan against his former Redskins. I mean, these are two

915
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: coaches that are ultimately very familiar and essentially run a

916
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: very similar offense to to each other. I don't know,

917
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works out exactly, but I

918
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: haven't really seen like this the frisky forty Niners defense

919
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: this year that we kind of were expecting. The Forest

920
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: Buckner is that guy. But other than that, it's it's

921
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: really not that great a defense. It's just kind of there. Uh.

922
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: They get Ruben Foster back, though, which is a big,

923
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: big news for them. This is also potentially the team

924
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is on next season. I think it's probably

925
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: the odds are in favor of that happening. The way

926
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: things possibly you could shake out. And also about the

927
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: struggling in close games, the four straight well, the five

928
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: losses overall, but the last four games eleven points the

929
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: margin of defeat combined. That's pretty tough. That that kind

930
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: of tells you maybe they're due, but we'll see. Kind

931
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: of like this George Kittle guy, Yeah, I mean, George

932
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: Kittle kind of took the game over. I was five catch.

933
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 1: I was joking in the news room and I was

934
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: I was like, keep feeding kidd. Kiddle's gonna win an

935
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: NFL game on his own, and they kept doing it.

936
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he had all the good games this season. Two,

937
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: moving on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, coming off that bitterly

938
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: disappointing Thursday night loss to the Patriots that led to

939
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: the of Nick Folks time with the team and probably

940
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: Nick's career. Let's face it, that's that's a kicker life.

941
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: They now go to Arizona and and the Cardinals, Let's

942
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: face it, West there a total mess. Uh. They have

943
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. Now do you think this is going to

944
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: be a lift to their offense at all? I'm fascinated

945
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: by this Adrian Peterson situation because, on one hand, the

946
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: Saints got rid of him. Every time he entered the game.

947
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: It was a tell that the ball was going to

948
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. He can't succeed like that. Uh, they got

949
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: rid of him, and then the Cardinals get ahold of him.

950
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: He says he wants to play four or five more seasons.

951
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: Bruce Arian says, I watched his film and he's a

952
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: violent runner who still has it. Sean Payton is talking

953
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: to Steve Kim and tells him, Hey, this guy still

954
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: has it. You know, we've seen it. He's got what

955
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: it takes. So everybody assumes this guy is washed up,

956
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: but all the people involved in the Traders saying he's

957
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: still got plenty left in the tank. There have been

958
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: some runs this year and that we spoke about it

959
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: a little bit on the last show where you you

960
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say he's washed up. And Next

961
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: Gen Stats put out something this week which pointed out

962
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: like he's had all of his success from a single

963
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: back formation by being the guy right right back there.

964
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: That's really not what the Saints run, and the Cardinals

965
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: run that higher percentage than any team in the NFL.

966
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: And we know he's gonna get the ball because Chris

967
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: Johnson wasn't even on the team and he joined it

968
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: in the first week. He was on the team talking

969
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: about putting him in a bad situation. They gave him

970
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: the ball a ton right off the bat, so they're

971
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: gonna give it to Adrian Peterson. My question would be

972
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: looking at that offensive line which has gotten Carson Palmer

973
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: killed on a weekly basis, can Adrian Peterson still be

974
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: a running back that regardless of the offensive line, he

975
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: will thrive well In the past, as he would point out,

976
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: I've run behind some pretty bad, bad ones in the Minnesota.

977
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: But I think the question is can they be better?

978
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: Because they've been awful the Cardinals they have the worst

979
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: rushing attack in the league, in the same league that

980
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: the New York Giants exist in. And I think the

981
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: question is d J. Humphriesy and Alex Boon, if you

982
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: there are a materially different offensive line, If those two

983
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: guys come back in the next couple of weeks, they

984
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: they are. And yet I think his ceiling is one place.

985
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: And the guy on the other side of the ball

986
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: who returned to the field last week had the chance

987
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: to be one of the two or three best running

988
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: backs in the entire league. Doug Martin looked awesome against

989
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and people, oh well, wait till you see

990
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: when he's not playing pages, It's like, use your eyes

991
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: watch the game. He it doesn't matter who the opponent was,

992
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: like his burst and the people he was making missed.

993
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: He looked incredible, just like he did in the preseason.

994
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: And he's going up against a team that I just

995
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: don't think has it. I think this is one of

996
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: the worst teams in the league in almost any situation.

997
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: Right now, I am picking against the Arizona Cardinals, And

998
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: even though I'm not quite sure about the Bucks, I'm

999
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: just feeling the Cardinals are head into a long losing

1000
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: stick and that's why I'm locking it up like it

1001
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: had my mind. I had my eye on the Bucks.

1002
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: That's a good luck, and that's about a little bit

1003
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: of integrity. That luck. That shows again that you are

1004
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: a man. I see where you're going to back the

1005
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: rest of us. You're saying, I'm not looking to get

1006
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: ahead of anybody. I'm not looking to take shots. I'm

1007
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: here to make the pick that I believe in. But

1008
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at your verbal subtweets. They're not even

1009
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: they're not even reaching me. I don't even feel whatever

1010
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: terrain you're trying to fire down on me, buddy. That

1011
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: has not I've had nothing to do with you. Nonsense.

1012
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I had who who did it have

1013
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: to do with It was cycling back to the conversation

1014
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: we have to be our own policeman. Compliment Greig, Yeah,

1015
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: I always solid pick um Mark. While we're here, I

1016
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: just wanted to check in on your birthday. Your your birthday.

1017
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: It was Tuesday. You took the day off. We're all

1018
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: curious about you shooting up that coast. I honestly, I

1019
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: I cannot stress this enough. It was a low impact

1020
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: day off. Did I went out with the with the

1021
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: what with the wife for little bit in a night.

1022
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: That was nice to turn this up a little bit.

1023
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: Picture Mark rented Thunderbird shooting up the coast there the wind.

1024
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: You don't need fish, do you You ever heard of

1025
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: like avocado? This guy always got up the coast from Bark. Sorry,

1026
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: we had to get off the exit. Mark kill the music.

1027
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: Mark to tell us about sushi. Did you have sushi?

1028
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: I did, and it was it was It was not

1029
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: including fish, Gregg, And that's your question just ruin my

1030
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: road trip. Let me tell you something. If I were

1031
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: to get in a car and shoot up the coast.

1032
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: No way, no possible way am I back here today.

1033
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: I would have come up with some excuse, like, you know,

1034
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: I have a guy's issue. No one can say anything.

1035
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: And then I have some sort of issue I don't know,

1036
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: just like a ladies issue. They say I have a

1037
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: guys this year. I think that works. I think that

1038
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: would raise a lot more questions. Okay, well I have

1039
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: a I have a medical concern, or I have a

1040
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: family is you and something something that no one can argue.

1041
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: I would be gone for days and days if you

1042
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: had a guy's issue that was a medical issue. It's like,

1043
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: I think that's something junk related, let's be honest. But again,

1044
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: it would be used as a crutch to simply not

1045
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: return to work for the rest of the week. But

1046
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: you telling your wife, you're telling your wife that she's

1047
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: probably gonna be plugged in, Like, wait, what's wrong with

1048
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: you know? Yeah, all right, I'm just I'm sorry talking

1049
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: with the sushi, but something that's just it saddens me

1050
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: that for the birthday meal theory, the best they could

1051
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: do was fishless sushi, which is essentially just you know,

1052
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: rice and vegetables. You put something I could care less

1053
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: about it, not even sushi. I could care less about

1054
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: a birthday meal. It's like, you know that, that's just

1055
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: literally you have to put fuel in your body to

1056
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: keep the day going. It's not like some people like

1057
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: let me, let me go to my favorite pizza shop

1058
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: or a great restaurant. You it's just like, give me

1059
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: the fuel need to keep sustenance. It's kind of it's

1060
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: just shut the box and then put me back in

1061
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: the car and let's go. Let's go put the wind

1062
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: in our hair. All right, we're rolling, We're going up

1063
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: the coast, and you can smell the smoke in the air.

1064
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: It's just terrible buyers up there, he's going, he's already

1065
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: that far. Yeah, he's he's cruising. He's got he's got

1066
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: the cruise control set at eighty five. He's thinking, and

1067
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: I had to somehow be back in l a and

1068
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: in like an hour and a half, sal paradise in

1069
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: the passenger seat's let's be thinking about wesh. He's he's

1070
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: re enacting Caroline. Yeah, big sir. Up the coast. Heats

1071
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: Greg catting over to get over the fact that I

1072
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: wasn't eating fish heads for my for my birthdaymul over here.

1073
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: It's no, it's just yeah. But you're mourning something that

1074
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: you don't need to mourn. You you can have your

1075
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: You're a religious person that thinks I am missing, like

1076
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: I am basically dead, or I'm I have a hole

1077
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: in my life checks out because I don't have God

1078
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: in my life. You know that's how much I You know,

1079
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: I love food and I am sad to see my

1080
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: friend food is your God. Yes, let's move on to

1081
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles rams. Um. They are three and two

1082
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: after the sixteen ten loss TV Seahawks. In week five,

1083
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: they travel to Jacksonville. Now, and uh, it's funny how

1084
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: quickly you know. Obviously great, great performance on defense, completely

1085
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: bewildering Ben Roethlisberger um five interceptions and all that at

1086
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: thirty nine win. But Greg, it is a little to me.

1087
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: People quickly forgot that the week before the Jaguars found

1088
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: a way to lose against the Jets in a game

1089
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: they had no business losing. And they still have the

1090
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: same issues at quarterback. And I am I late getting

1091
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: onto this bandwagon. I still don't believe in the Jacks. No,

1092
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so. They're the most uneven team in

1093
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: the NFL week to week that's been proven out. They're

1094
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: still looking for their first win in Jacksonville. This might

1095
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: only be their second game in Jacksonville, and this is

1096
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: the game I'm most intrigued by of the entire week.

1097
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit of the We're totally different

1098
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: than last year. We're the new kind of two thousand seventeen,

1099
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: which which buzzy team, and I believe it will be

1100
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 1: the team of eight. TL is gonna have a little

1101
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: more stay in power, great offense versus defense matchup. I

1102
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: think you're right to doubt the Jaguars, and I know

1103
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: everyone is overreacting to one week. Nobody was talking about

1104
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: the Jags as some great team when the Jets were

1105
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: beating them. But you know, this is the first time

1106
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: they've been in first place after five weeks since almost

1107
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: twenty years. Yeah, and the first this is the latest

1108
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: they've been above five hundred since two thousand ten. So

1109
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: and they've got it's been a dark period. Here's what

1110
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: I point to, though, Like they do the things that

1111
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: I don't doubt Leonard four Net. Everyone knew they was

1112
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: going to him over and over last week. They ran

1113
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: the ball eighteen times to close the game, and most

1114
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: of his production came in that that rough period of

1115
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: the game for the Steelers. He ran right over. I mean,

1116
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: he's he's a powerful, incredible runner to watch. And Chris

1117
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: Ivory being the backup and running really well, and that's

1118
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: what he has played a big role. He picked up

1119
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: a lot of the key first downs last week. I

1120
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: kept drives going and and I feel remiss that we

1121
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: haven't talked about my favorite play of the year, which

1122
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: to me kind of shows how Leonard four Nett is,

1123
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: how how this Jaguars team's got a little bit of

1124
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: a sizzle to them. The fact that Leonard Fournette gets

1125
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: to the outside and he sees Steelers safety Mike Mitchell coming,

1126
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: who had already run over once in the game and

1127
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: they had done, and he waves at him, come here.

1128
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen that in the NFL. That's

1129
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: an amazing thing, and that fires up your teammate. And

1130
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: a couple of things that first all that was during

1131
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: a stretch uh call. Again, shout out to Doug Moron

1132
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: who said something before the season started, stuck stuck to it,

1133
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: this is a running in defense team exclusively. That was

1134
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: part of a field goal drive where they ran the

1135
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: ball just twelve straight time with Leonard Fournett and Chris

1136
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: Ivory who also looks pretty good this year, and they

1137
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: got a field goal. And the other thing is Mike

1138
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: Mitchell did a nice job there. He took him on,

1139
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: didn't shy away, got the tackle. Mike Mitchell though, was

1140
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: he was an understandably so who does that? He jumped

1141
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: up and he was like celebrating, going nuts, and it

1142
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: was like, did that just happen that? I was? It

1143
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: was amazing. Well, they had you could tell early in

1144
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 1: the game for Net essentially ran Mitchell over uh and

1145
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: you know they and they started giant at that point.

1146
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: So they he had his eyes like he looks for contact.

1147
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: He wants to punish defense well, and when Doug Maron

1148
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: said that, people laughed at him. But here these were

1149
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: his words. I want to go back to the old way.

1150
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: I want to change the game. Everyone knows what they're

1151
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 1: doing on offense play after play, and somehow it's working. Um.

1152
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: Wes you the defense earlier this week, um, because you

1153
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: know a lot of questions of being asked to Ben

1154
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger now, who's having a bad year, there's no way

1155
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: around it. In a really bad Sunday. Specifically, Um, you

1156
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: didn't see a guy that was totally lost at sea

1157
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: when you watch the tape. No. I I thought this

1158
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: was the biggest overreaction game of the week. The Steelers

1159
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: were up by a hundred yards and holding Leonard four

1160
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: net under three yards per carry at the end of

1161
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: the third quarter, and then the wheels just came off

1162
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: of Ben. I just think Ben's performance was mostly bad luck.

1163
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: And you know, testing an outstanding the Jaguars past defense

1164
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: fifty six point nine. Only three teams in his three

1165
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: have ever had a lower past defense or a passer

1166
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: rating and one and they all three one the super

1167
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: well they there's an incredible stat the quarterbacks. If you

1168
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: wanted to face a j Boy and Jalen Ramsey, you'd

1169
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 1: have a higher percentage against them by spiking the ball

1170
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: on every play. Jared Jared Goff started off the season great,

1171
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: but he is playing a really tough stretch of defenses

1172
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: and we saw last week that they didn't light it

1173
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: up quite as much. But I liked a lot of

1174
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: what I saw from Jared Goff last week when I

1175
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: when I went back to to rewatch that like, I

1176
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: think he has shown a lot of progress and I

1177
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: think he can I think he can still move the

1178
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: ball against the defense like Jacksonville, and I liked them this.

1179
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: So let's move on and talk about the Steelers and

1180
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, who now traveled to Kansas City. Uh, Mark

1181
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: and Uh, you know, this is quite a test for

1182
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: this team. They're kind of at the crossroads right now,

1183
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, after a preseason in

1184
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: which they're hyped up as a definite challenger to the

1185
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: Patriots throne. There three and two, still in first place,

1186
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: tied for first, but coming off that game a very

1187
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: cult loss against the Jaguars. Uh, what are you? What

1188
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about this? One? Three and two in

1189
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: a division they absolutely could win. The a f C

1190
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: North is not what it has been in recent years

1191
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: right now, I don't think. And my question with Pittsburgh

1192
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: because yeah, it's like we are having to look at

1193
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: them a little differently. I like a lot of elements

1194
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: of their defense, but in a game like this, Kansas

1195
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: City has poured on points all year, do we trust

1196
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh to kind of finally get it all together and

1197
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: win a shootout. I I don't know about that, especially

1198
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: the talk about Martavis Bryant essentially having sort of a

1199
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: lower role this week. It's just something seems out of

1200
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: sync with this, with this attack, there's sort of the

1201
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: team of the week as far as what this represents

1202
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: as a test and everybody talking about Big Ben's postgame

1203
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: comments and is he washed up? Uh? And there do

1204
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: appear to be some some whispers around the league about

1205
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: their locker room, uh, specifically between Ben and Antonio Brown.

1206
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: And I wonder if you know the controversy surrounding his

1207
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: postgame not controversy, but everybody making a big deal if

1208
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: that locker room comes together this week or now. And

1209
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's status as we tape this is not for sure,

1210
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: but he did practice fully on Thursday, which would indicate

1211
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: that he will get cleared, although it's a concussion. Because

1212
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: if they're missing Travis Kelsey, they're just not the same team.

1213
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: They just lost Chris Conley, not that he's like the

1214
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: biggest part of their offense, but that's losing two key

1215
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: pieces and Kelsey being being the the key piece. They're

1216
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: a star driven team. Tyreek Hill, Kelsey justin Houston and

1217
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters are really important to them, and Justin Houston

1218
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: hasn't practiced yet this week. Although the the second we

1219
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: doubt Alex Smith a little more. He just comes out

1220
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: and that was his best game of the season last week.

1221
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we used to make fun of him throwing

1222
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: short of the sticks. Now they're suddenly the best team

1223
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: in the league on third and long. Third and long

1224
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: is like, okay, now it's Alex Smith time. Let's let's

1225
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: compete that when we made fun of he did do that,

1226
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: Like he's fundamentally you he's being used differently this year

1227
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: and he's succeeding right now. I'm yeah, I agree. It's

1228
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: just feels that that's crazy that it's Alex Smith. I

1229
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: don't want this to be an indictment of the Chiefs

1230
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: because I think they're an excellent team and I think

1231
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna be in the mix deep into January. But

1232
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't I am not counting up Ben Roethlisberger. I

1233
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: think the Tomlin Roethlisberger era, there's been blips along the

1234
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: way and they always seem to come back. And to me,

1235
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: this looks like the type of game where the Steelers

1236
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: get right and deliver a big performance and win a

1237
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: game in fact, and you gotta be a man of principal.

1238
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: You gotta be a man you hold yourself to your

1239
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: own code. And that's why I'm locking up. I'm blacking wow.

1240
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: I respect this pick. Thank you, Wes. Just well, it

1241
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: was just January that basically the same personnel on the

1242
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: field for the Steelers winning and and beat the Chiefs.

1243
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: It's right. It's even though I'm sure in Kansas City

1244
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: it's getting played up a lot as as the playoff rematch.

1245
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a I think a big game

1246
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: in Alex Smith's head in some way. Not that I

1247
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: think he was the reason they lost that game totally,

1248
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: but that was sort of the game that made them

1249
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: draft Patrick Mahomes like like, hey, you can't beat the

1250
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: big boys, you're at home. This is a big game

1251
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: for Alex. Um. I love that you picked the Steelers,

1252
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: the big kind of hang some onion. I ain't afraid

1253
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: to hang on you. I'm with you. I like that.

1254
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: Moving on, the Los Angeles Chargers um are one and four.

1255
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: They finally got that win against the Giants and now

1256
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: they travel uh to face the Raiders, who are in

1257
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: a three game losing streak. They hope to have their

1258
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: quarterback Derek carrback as of taping. We're taping this on

1259
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon. It looks like he's trending that way, but

1260
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: not a given west your thoughts, well, I mean, if

1261
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: if Young Wi Coup makes two kicks, the Chargers aren't

1262
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: even seen as an underdog in this game. I think

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Speaker 1: that there's a better team right now because I am

1264
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: not impressed with how the Raiders are playing at all.

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01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: I that's an interesting, interesting take because to me, Raiders

1266
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: look like a broken team right Look, it's more about

1267
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: the Raiders looking poor than in your mind then the

1268
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: Chargers looking good because they didn't really do a lot

1269
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: too to impress against the Giants in that game. Either.

1270
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: The Chargers problem is their run defense. I could get

1271
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: behind almost everything else with this team. If you told me,

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01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, you got Mike Williams, the rookie coming in

1273
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: this week, and they're you know, they're starting to use

1274
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry Moore and weed Antonio Gates out and that's

1275
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: helping the offense. Melvin Gordon's coming off his best week

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01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: of the year. I I could be convinced that the

1277
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: Chargers offense is about to take off. I mean, is

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01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: any team having going in what we thought they'd be

1279
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: and what they are that the worst season than the Raiders.

1280
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean Amari Cooper's vanished. There's whispers that there's issues

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01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,959
Speaker 1: potentially between the owner and the head coach right now

1282
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: that you know his job has been questioned at one point.

1283
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: That seems crazy to me after what happened last season

1284
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 1: and the contract that he got. The contract Marshawn Lynch

1285
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: is brought in. It's it's a nice offseason narrative. I

1286
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: think Washat Lynch just ran well in places, but their

1287
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: ground game is suspect. Their defense is suspect. I don't

1288
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: know there there's yeah, their defense. There's no reason in

1289
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 1: particular to expect them to do anything in their back seven,

1290
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: Their linebackers, their their secondary all struggles. But Rivers, Philip

1291
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: Rivers has not shown right now that he's able to

1292
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: take advantage of bad defense. They are missing layups all

1293
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: the time, They're having the layers of game. It's just

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01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: it hasn't been the Chargers offense. One more note on

1295
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: that game, boys, um the wildfires that have really scorched

1296
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: the Bay Area have It's led to some issues about

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01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: whether the game would be playable on Sunday. The air

1298
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: quality in northern California has reached unhealthy levels due to

1299
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: the fires. Um they are monitoring the situation, the league

1300
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: spokesman said. At this point, the game remained scheduled for

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01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: Sunday in Oakland. Could change, but as of now still

1302
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: Rapport reported that Levi Stadium is an option moving on.

1303
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: The New York Giants don't have a win, don't have

1304
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: any wide receivers, don't really have any hope right now.

1305
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: That's the situation. Don't have any well dysfunction. They have

1306
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: plenty of dysfunction. Dominic Rogers Carmarty left the team on

1307
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 1: Wednesday and was suspended indefinitely. UM whole whole thing going

1308
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: on right now. And now, to top it off, Big

1309
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: Bluest to travel to Denver to face the three and

1310
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: one Broncos. Greg I want to I want to go

1311
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: out on a limb here and say that no team

1312
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: is in bigger trouble in Week six than these New

1313
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: York Giants. I think that's true, and it's partly because

1314
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: they are missing Dominique Rodgers Cormarty. A story that really

1315
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: fascinates me and gets to what happens sometimes maybe on

1316
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: an OH and five team. And it shouldn't be lost.

1317
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: He's now suspended by the team. It shouldn't be lost

1318
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: that he is one of the better cornerbacks in the NFL.

1319
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: And so this is a defense that slipped under the

1320
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: radar a bit because of Eli Manny and the receivers.

1321
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: But the New York Giants defense is one of the

1322
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: most disappointing units on either side of the ball in

1323
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: the entire NFL. They really don't have a pass rush

1324
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: right now. Teams are running through them. This is what

1325
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: they were supposed to be built on and and without DRC.

1326
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: I think they're going to take another a big shot

1327
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: trade him. Yeah, get get old Steve, come on the horn,

1328
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: since he's trading already with Bomb. Get bomb come. Bomb

1329
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: used to be the director of player personnel for the

1330
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: Cardinals when Dominique Rodgers Carmarti was drafted by the Cardinals,

1331
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: so you figure he probably likes him. Anyway. He was

1332
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: a guy who threatened retirement a couple of Super Bowls ago.

1333
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: If you're not familiar with the story, I mean, I'm

1334
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: amazed he was taking off the field last week and

1335
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: no one reported, No one knew anything about it. This

1336
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: is a starting player that was basically taking off the field.

1337
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: Then he shows up to the facility, he leaves the facility.

1338
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: It's just like mcadoo's losing control, sub tweeting the Giants

1339
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: beat writers, do your job, Um and yeah McAdoo, it

1340
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: is all coming down now, it's falling down around him.

1341
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: If it feels familiar, Uh, it's because this This does

1342
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: happen every couple of years. A team gets off to

1343
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: a terrible start and then teams who go one of

1344
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,479
Speaker 1: two ways. They could stay together and and four John

1345
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: or things can really collapse and the Giants don't get

1346
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: any um, any example or excuses. Uh, but losing both

1347
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, Brandon Marshall, Sterling, Sharp Shepherd and uh who else?

1348
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: Who else got hurt? Dwayne Harris were in Harris you

1349
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: have no receiving all in one game is almost unheard of.

1350
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: And they just you can imagine now they're going into

1351
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: the Rocky Mountain avalanche. I would be stunned if they

1352
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: scored double digits in this. I don't know if there

1353
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: was a team more reliance, certainly not last year. And

1354
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: part of this year more reliant on their wide receivers.

1355
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 1: It's the only way they produced yardage in points. Now

1356
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: you have to go face easily the best run defense

1357
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: in the league with a run game that barely exists.

1358
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: I like that we're now just accepting the Rocky Mountain

1359
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: Avalanche and I don't know. I mean, it's not happening.

1360
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: There is another, a prominent team in Denver with the

1361
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: Avalanche has their nicknames, so it's a little hazy, but

1362
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: prominent that it's a hockey team. I like this Broncos team,

1363
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: and in theory this should be a rival. It has

1364
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: been a rival and a thorn in the Patriots side

1365
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: over the last decade. But I love watching this team

1366
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: and I think this is a team to watch as

1367
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 1: a potential super Bowl team. I couldn't agree with you more. Uh. Finally,

1368
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Monday night football game between the

1369
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Cults and the Tennessee Titoons. As of this taping,

1370
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, I think they're hopeful that he's gonna play.

1371
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: It's not a done deal, and you're really really Mark

1372
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: hope that's the case, because we don't want another week

1373
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: Matt Castle around you we can't take it. We won't

1374
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: take it. So this has well, what are you gonna

1375
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: do about it? I will simply not only not cover

1376
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: this game on its actual game day. I won't be

1377
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: here anyways, but I won't watch it and I will

1378
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: never watch it if he plays, I will never serve

1379
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: a second of it. I don't blame you, bro, bro Well,

1380
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: that's what pros do. I don't accept that that that

1381
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: level dr you get. Matt Castle, Kobe Brissette. I am

1382
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: to understand Andrew Luck is coming back. And Andrew Luck

1383
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: is a far superior product. Potentially he is. But Jacoby

1384
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: Brissette I would love to see I love you. I

1385
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: would love to see him as like an all time

1386
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: QB that can be shipped around the league week to

1387
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: week and fill in for some of these Matt Castle

1388
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: like teams. Jacroby Brissette should not be on the bench.

1389
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: He's too fun to watch. The league needs fun quarterbacks.

1390
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: We don't need him buried behind Andrew Luck. Move him around,

1391
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: change the rules. It's kind of like when you're playing

1392
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: football and you have an odd number. He's just the course.

1393
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: He's the all time QB quarterback YEP week to week

1394
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: he goes wherever he's needed the most you can. He's

1395
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: having a nice season. But do I do I need

1396
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: Jake Brisket in my life times the rest of his career?

1397
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: Would you rather have Matt Castle? No? I know what that?

1398
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: I like your thinking a lot. That's not gonna work

1399
01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: that last what if? Why don't we take it a

1400
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: step further? Take Aaron Rodgers out of Green Bay because

1401
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: they've had enough great quarterbacks and just ship him around.

1402
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: We get to see him in all different markets, every taste,

1403
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers becomes the you know I remember like

1404
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 1: growing up there, Bill Oh, I'm automatic quarterback. He's automatic

1405
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: quarterback for the NFL. We were just talking about. That's

1406
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: that's very similar to the point we raised, but you

1407
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: hammered at home. But the real quarterback, Jake Prescott's calm

1408
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 1: down Actually last week. Last week made me think a

1409
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: little differently about old Jake for the first time. I

1410
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: mean that was until the interception late in the game.

1411
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: I think it was one of the best games any

1412
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks played. I'll see he's throwing sixty yards down the

1413
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: field across his body. He basically played a perfect game.

1414
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: He's picking up scrambles on third and five. He was perfect.

1415
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: What more do you want, West than a couple of

1416
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: six yard bombs on the Moneys aggressive and Mark Paul

1417
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: Gossler's body. What else could you want? I mean, I

1418
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: think I would take several of Aaron Rodgers games over

1419
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: that several of Tom Brady's. They gotta get Marlon Mack.

1420
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: I know you sounded this drum lastic. I think that

1421
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna now start giving Marlon Mack the ball a

1422
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 1: little more. That's trying to pick him up. Greg. He's

1423
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: a he's a space only back now. I think he

1424
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: wants to bounce everything outside. He has a speed to

1425
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: do it. But I think he's one of those guys

1426
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot better indoors for Indianapolis and outdoors

1427
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: on grass. Very fair, very fair. Okay, there you go.

1428
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: There you have it, Lindsay. I was your first show

1429
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: behind the glass. It was awesome. It was everything I

1430
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: hoped and dreamed. I'm not being sarcastic. I'm serious. Sit down, Um.

1431
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: The next time you hear from us, UH, it will

1432
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: be Sunday night, our flagship program, don't forget about NFL

1433
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: Pick Them, which airs on Saturday, and Sunday multiple times

1434
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: Saturday also Sunday morning early Sunday morning leading into game

1435
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: day morning, so check out your local listings for exact times,

1436
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: but just at this point, three times a day, yeah, nine, two,

1437
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: and eleven on the East Coast. We have some fun

1438
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 1: with that, so uh um, good stuff today and that's it.

1439
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: Let's stay. Had to sign it off for quiet Storm,

1440
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: the Mailman, the old Boss, Lindsay Fulton behind the glass

1441
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: there's no garbage can kind of workshop. Something that still

1442
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: Sunday