1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: What is going on? Welcome back to Refresh. I'm Jake Hoofer. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: In this week. We have a great episode as we 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: are inching in on the end of December, and we 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: have some great intel and information for anyone that stills 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: tagging the pocket or wants to know what's going on 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: across the country. As you know, rough Fresh is brought 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: to you by land dot com, the leading online real 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: estate marketplace to find your perfect rural recreational I have 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: cultural hunting properties here in the US. It's been cold, 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: it's been frigid. We've had a really really strong winter 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: up to this point. Looks like there's going to be 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: some warmer temperatures here throughout this week. And what does 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: that mean to you? What can you do? We're gonna 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: have a variety of different guests here. We're going to 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: kick things off with Tyler Jones, who's in Texas and 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: hunts all over, but today he's in Texas. Here we go, 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: all right, first up on the line, guy that travels 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: a bunch, and so I'm just gonna ask Tyler, where 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: in the world are you right now? 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: I'm in Texas right now, been in Arkansas recently, so 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: most of our time has been spent in the South 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: the last week or two, maybe maybe two weeks, three weeks, 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: Time flies, Yeah, I mean the for deer hunters, the 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: world kind of resolves revolves around the Midwest. At least 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: that's just me because I live here and so the South. 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: You guys are down there right now, you're headed to 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: go check out a property. What have you been hearing 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: and seeing in terms of rud activity, because I know 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: it's getting more exciting there and more food centric here. 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: So you guys are getting to see what deer're supposed 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: to do and all the exciting things. Have you been 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: noticing that or seeing anything like that on camera? 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: I mean, so, you know, the Texas is a huge state, 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: so and super geographically diverse. Habitat is you know, crazy 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: different from the coast to the Transpagas region, to the 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: brush country of South Texas to the Panhandle which is 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: the Great Plains, to the you know, Black Lamp Prairie, 40 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: which is kind of where I live, all the way 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: into the piney Woods, which is like what you're see 42 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: in the South. So there's so many different things going on. 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: There's a ton of different ruts. The South is full 44 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: of different ruts all the way through out to Florida, 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 2: you know, and where I have been recently, what we're 46 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: seeing mostly our. 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: Mid November rut dates, and. 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: So we're starting to get to where deer getting back 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: onto food sources pretty heavy, probably much like what you're seeing. 50 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: In fact, I've one of our camera guys, Greg, he 51 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: said that he's had in the last like two days, 52 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: he's had like three shooter Bucks show up, one that 53 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: he hasn't seen since last year on feeders. So you know, 54 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: they're getting back into you know, trying to gain a 55 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: little bit of that that fat reserve back I guess 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: from the rut. 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So they're they're licking their jog here looking 58 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, at this time of the year, and people 59 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: are still at it and they're not completely burnt out. 60 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: Because I think if you did a if you did 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: a survey family feud style of you know, are you 62 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: burnt out? Ninety nine five one hundred people said they're 63 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: burnt out and they're looking their own chops from deer season. 64 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Where are you at in terms of motivation and excitement 65 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: as we close out the year of twenty twenty five, 66 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: I know season's going to twenty six here. But where 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: are you at in terms of excitement or being a 68 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: little rundown. 69 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I would say if you 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: asked me two days ago, I was a little rundown. 71 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: I slept pretty good last night, and so I'm like, 72 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: it's been four days since I've really hunted, which I 73 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: haven't had a four day stretch probably since September sometime. 74 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: So I mean, really I'm kind of itching to get 75 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: back out and do some hunting for sure. I actually 76 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: three or four days ago put out a feeder on 77 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: different property to get my son, you know, some action 78 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: out in the woods. 79 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: And so I'm actually pretty excited. 80 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: I would say there's a lot of people, you know, 81 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: I have a mutual friend out in Alabama that you know, 82 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: their their ruts are just I mean, this is like, 83 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: this is the exciting time of year for them. Their 84 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: ruts are gonna kick off in January, right, So, like 85 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: in the same way we've got in like I was 86 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: talking about earlier, the brush country South Texas, it's it's 87 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: starting to cook down there. I mean, the rut is 88 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: picking up. If you are blessed enough to have access 89 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,559 Speaker 2: to brush country property like now as the Super Bowl 90 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: from now till through Christmas, you know, is really just good, 91 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: good stuff. And the thing about the South is that 92 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: we have huge shoulders on our ruts because the there's 93 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: not really a need for those to breed in a 94 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: certain tight window based off of like cold weather or whatever. 95 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: The funds don't necessarily have to be born in a 96 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: tight window because of weather, so the same way, the 97 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: rut can be spread out a little bit more and 98 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: so it makes for like a less intense rut, but 99 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: it also makes for a potential that any day you 100 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: go out right now you can see rut in action. 101 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: And in fact, even at home where we have a 102 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: mid November you know, I'd say November fourteen or so, 103 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 2: it's been like just the best the best day on 104 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: trail camera at home for us. We've seen a buck 105 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: that was just dog and doze in late February on 106 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: trail camera even at home. So you know, it can 107 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: happen at any time, and especially with those windows, you 108 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 2: have these fawns that are born later than normal, which 109 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: then they come in to heat in December or January 110 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: sometimes and so you know, it can kick the whole 111 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 2: thing back off on any random day. So I guess 112 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: I would say it's pretty exciting still to be hunting 113 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: in the rut. It's a lot different than the traditional 114 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: Midwest white tail where Bill Winki was saying after November 115 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: said you might as well hang it up. 116 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: You know, he wasn't really saying that. 117 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: But it's you know, you could tell there was an 118 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: urgency prior to that date, you know. So it's a 119 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: little different, and it's exciting. I'm excited. And we still, 120 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: you know, me and k C at the Element, we've 121 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: got quite a bit of hunting left to do. In fact, 122 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: we're you know, post Christmas, We've got several things lined 123 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: up and we've been booking all this Airbnbs. 124 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 3: And everything, you know, and we're we're excited to go 125 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: back out. 126 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: So with the with the plan here post Christmas, and 127 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, people can maybe move those dates around a 128 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: little bit, maybe they have time during Christmas time. What 129 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: is kind of your guys' punch list or strategy, so 130 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: hopefully you know, connect with connect with the buck here 131 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: in the South. 132 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 133 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I i'd say if you're if you're coming up 134 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: into a rut, I'm probably not supposed to say this, 135 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: but there's a there's a version of a can call 136 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: that actually we used to laugh about a lot, and 137 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: I've seen work really well in the South the last 138 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: few years. 139 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 140 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: That can call can work, uh for guys that are 141 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: coming into their ruts, coming up when you get into 142 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 2: the heart of the rut. It's crazy how effective that thing. 143 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: I've seen it be at times. I like that a lot, 144 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: especially a lot of guys they see it may be 145 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: from them, it may be from any yeah, yeah, like yeah, 146 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: that's the sound. It sounds a lot like a like 147 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: a pink or a woodcock, you know. But those like 148 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: I like that, especially for guys because a lot of 149 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: times people in your neck of the woods they make 150 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: these big, huge buck roars and these giant grunts that 151 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: sound like, you know, the deepest burp a human can make, 152 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: you know, And it's like, well, a Southern deer, it 153 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: weighs one hundred and sixty pounds, might not actually sound 154 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: like that, right, So these guys see it on TV. 155 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: They go to you know, just making these huge deep 156 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: roars and stuff. It's like, ah, that's there's not as 157 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: many deer in the South sounding like that, you know, 158 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: So if you're using that that can call. It's got 159 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: it's a little more realistic than what a guy might 160 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: have seen on TV. And you can't change the pitch 161 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: or anything like that to to sound like, you know, 162 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: Michael Waddell or something like that. 163 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: You know. 164 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: So I think that's a that's a good thing for 165 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: the rut now if you're if you're on the back 166 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: end of the rut here, I think, uh, wheat, wheat 167 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: is just hard to beat right now. Corn feeders obviously, 168 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: if you're in a state that allows that, which a 169 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: lot of the South does. Uh, the deer going to 170 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: be carving up, you know, post rut, I think. And 171 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: so we're seeing a lot of deer come back to 172 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: feeders right now. And I just I still think, uh, 173 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: like we were talking about a piece of public in 174 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: our home state. I was talking about it with Greg 175 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,359 Speaker 2: yesterday and I was like, Man, if there's wheat there. 176 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 3: This, this would be a good spot. 177 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: And so in other words, we're looking at deer that 178 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: we're trying to pattern to deer moving and you want 179 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: to be closer to their. 180 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: Betting at this time of the year. 181 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: I think, then you do that food source unless you 182 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: really get a cold blast, which we just I think 183 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: it's a lot nina year, so we haven't had much 184 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: cold weather at all. 185 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: Real quick with the with the can call, are you 186 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: every twenty minutes flipping that thing over or every hour 187 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: or what you see a deer and you flip it 188 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: over to see how it reacts? Kind of what what 189 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: is the calling sequence for that? 190 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we hunt a lot and so you know, for. 191 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: You, you're pretty good strategist when it comes to like 192 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: having a target buck and a private property, and sometimes 193 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: we have some of that, and sometimes we end up 194 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 2: just you know, we're in this state for a week, 195 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: so let's hunt and find a hear and be aggressive. 196 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: So like for me, I would say, it didn't necessarily 197 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: work for everybody, but we're pretty aggressive. 198 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: So I would call like I would. 199 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I'd call every fifteen minutes during the rut like 200 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: I would. I mean, if you're going to rattle same 201 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: thing like in the South, you may not make, you know, 202 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: your rattling sequence sound like two one sixties fight, and 203 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: you may make it sound a little thinner horned or whatever. 204 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: You may be a little less aggressive personally, like using 205 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: especially on still days. It will get this time of 206 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: year in the evenings when we have south winds or 207 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: east winds. I like sounding like two little dinkers that 208 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: are just messing around. And if you've ever watched it, 209 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: or you've never watched it, you should try to find 210 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: a YouTube clip of a couple of one to two 211 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: year olds just kind of not really fighting, but sparring. 212 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: And I think that that carries through the woods and 213 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: doing that every fifteen minutes or whatever for one or 214 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: two minutes, it's a good idea. I think it's a 215 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: good idea. Same with the can call doing it often. 216 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: But I do think, yeah, testing it on bucks, even 217 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: if it's not a target buck, as long as you 218 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: don't want to blow you know, you got to be 219 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: careful not to call a one year old over and 220 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: then he blows the entire woods out. You know, once 221 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: he once, he wins you. So that's the one, the 222 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: one thing you got to watch for there. But yeah, 223 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: I mean seeing it how they react. But I mean 224 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: I can tell you in the South that that can 225 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 2: call works pretty good when the rut's pretty high. 226 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I really do like it, I really do. 227 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: I You're right, it does seem like those things get 228 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: made fun of. But if they work. Nothing funny about that. 229 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: Oh, we've laughed our heads off and talked about it 230 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 3: for years. 231 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: And then you know, we did the buck Truck series 232 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 2: for me Eater in twenty twenty two and if you 233 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: can go watch in the Arkansas episode, I can't call 234 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: two bucks, and I mean one of them comes to 235 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 2: I think thirty seven or something like that and the 236 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: other one is like fifty five. 237 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: But I mean it worked really well. 238 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: And that's on public land, you know, that's where they 239 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: hear calling every once in a while. 240 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they probably don't hear that because everyone they 241 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: say to do something works, I know. Maybe that's why 242 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: that does the trick. 243 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you go, you know, go go to the trends 244 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: that were popular in the nineties and or early two thousands, 245 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: and people aren't using anymore and they probably stand a 246 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: chance of working and nobody else is using them, right. 247 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no, that's exciting, so real quick. The seventeenth 248 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: to Christmas Eve scale one to ten in your neck 249 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: of the woods, ten being the best, one being one 250 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: of the worst weeks of the year. Where are you 251 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: gonna put. 252 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: It in my neck of the woods, I'd say. 253 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: Man, I'm not gonna give it the Midwest six. 254 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 2: What's called a seven if you have food? I think 255 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: it's a seven. Okay, Yeah, I think there's like I 256 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: think that you're going to be coming back to feeders. 257 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: They're gonna be on wheat fields. If we can get weather, 258 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: which I hadn't looked at the weather. I know we 259 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: have some kind of stable weather the first part of 260 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: this week. But if we can get a little bit 261 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: of weather, I think that it's a really good time 262 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: to find a big buck, maybe checking for the last doze, 263 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: but knowing that the food source is there to really 264 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: kind of be the destination. 265 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: I like it. Well, Tyler, if people want to fall 266 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: along with your guys the season and all the hunts 267 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: that you guys have done literally across it feels like 268 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: the entire country, and that probably is a pretty fair 269 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: word to say say it. Where can they go watch 270 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: all those? 271 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I appreciate you allow me to do this, 272 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: but uh, the Element Hunting is a good search on 273 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: YouTube and you'll you'll find our channel. 274 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: If you search the Element you might find a skateboard brand. 275 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: So Putting Hunting in there is a pretty good idea 276 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: and you can just yeah, you can follow along with 277 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: what we've been doing. 278 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: We're, uh, we're putting out videos. 279 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: You know, the rut November is pretty tough for us 280 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: to get videos out sometimes, so but we're back to 281 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: putting out videos pretty regularly right now. 282 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, we. 283 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: Just travel all over and hunt stuff and you know, 284 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: sometimes we shoot them, sometimes we don't. But you can 285 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: follow us on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, all that stuff. 286 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: Too. 287 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you so much, Tyler. Good luck the rest 288 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: of the year, and I hope you and your family 289 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: have an awesome Christmas. 290 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: Thanks you too, Jake. 291 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: All right, next up, I have my good friend David Powell. 292 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: David a lot of places. He's been spending a lot 293 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: of time in Kansas. How's it going going well, Jake? 294 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: How about yourself? 295 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: It's going great, It's it's going great. It's actually snowing 296 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: right here in Illinois right now. We're supposed to get 297 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: more snow and more cold weather. So as a deer 298 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: hunter this time of year, that's that's okay with me. 299 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: What's been going on here? I know you're traveling here 300 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: a little bit for the holidays, but how has the 301 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: hunting been specifically in Kansas here recently? 302 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 5: You know big bucks have still been hitting the ground. 303 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 5: Rifle season just closed down a week or so ago. 304 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 5: I have noticed that it seems like the bucks are 305 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 5: getting back to food sources to try to replennge some 306 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 5: of that that body weight was lost maybe during the 307 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 5: chasing phase. So I'm concentrating my efforts on and around 308 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 5: food sources. I think that you know I've been chasing 309 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 5: a big deer. I confided in you earlier in the 310 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 5: season that there's a big deer while out that's chase 311 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 5: still continues. Oh, but I wasn't able to catch up 312 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 5: with him early in year, like I hope. Typically he 313 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 5: makes a journey an excursion to the south right I 314 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 5: don't have access, but usually about this time he comes 315 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 5: back home. As a matter of fact, in twenty twenty three, 316 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 5: I encountered that deer on the twenty second of December, 317 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 5: bumped him from out of a travel corridor. 318 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 4: And I remembered that. 319 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 5: And then a few days later I was in the 320 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 5: tree and he came down that travel corridor again on 321 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 5: his way to food. Unfortunately, I was managed to miss 322 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 5: that dear at seventeen yards. But the good news is 323 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 5: he's survived and this year he's you know, two years later, 324 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 5: he's even more significant than he was that year. 325 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: Wow. And so you mentioned a really interesting thing there. 326 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: You were hunting a travel corridor to food. I feel 327 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: like a lot of times people want to hunt over food. 328 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: With that said, obviously there's added benefits there, potentially easier 329 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: to get out of there. Do you want to talk 330 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: a little bit about the strategy now that you have, 331 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years of history at an encounter, 332 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, within within the danger zone. Is that still 333 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: top of mind as we you know, are looking deeper 334 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: into December, you know that. Do you think history will 335 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: repeat itself in that same pinch? 336 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 5: I'm certainly hoping so. So I mentioned to you that 337 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 5: the deer takes an excursion. I left Kansas yesterday, flew 338 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 5: to central Ohio and back in the east for some 339 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 5: some holiday uh get together with the. 340 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 4: Family and others. But as I was leaving, I did get. 341 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 5: Some photo overnight and I had hung a new camera 342 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 5: uh in in that same corridor. I hung that camera 343 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 5: the first series of pictures I got. After I left, 344 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 5: I realized that it needed to be lowered just a bit. 345 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 5: But the deer is a very distinctive fork on the 346 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 5: left side of his on the left side of his rack. 347 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 5: And uh, yesterday morning as I was head of the airport, 348 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 5: I got a photo of that distinctive left fork. 349 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure it's him. He's returned. 350 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 5: History is hopefully you know, he's back in his traditional 351 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: winter area. And my hope is that whenever I get back, 352 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 5: I'll be able to get back in that travel corridor 353 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 5: and maybe catch up with it. 354 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: That that's spot where he had an opportunity in the past. 355 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: How far off of the food source was that it 356 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: is one hundred yards two hundred yards seventy yards. 357 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 5: I'm about two two hundred to two hundred and fifty 358 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 5: yards off the main food source. The food source I'll 359 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 5: describe for you is an oakmont. It's about it's about 360 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 5: twenty two acres of pinoaks at the end of about. 361 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 4: The travel corridor is about one point three miles. 362 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 5: Betting area is all along that travel corridor, but oftentimes 363 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 5: throughout the year it's it's towards the lower end of that. 364 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: So they're coming somewhere from anywhere from a quarter mile 365 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 5: to nearly a mile away. 366 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: And I because that because that Oakmont is so large. 367 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 5: You know, twenty two acres isn't overly large, but it's 368 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 5: it's big when you're trying. 369 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 4: To bet an narrow and a deer. 370 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 5: And so I'd rather focus on I'd rather focus on 371 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 5: his travel to that area as to which specific tree 372 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 5: I need to be in within that twenty two acres 373 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 5: And that's that's that worked out well for me previous 374 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 5: sleep and let's hope that that can happen again this year. 375 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: We'll see. 376 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, I think a lot of people 377 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: here are wondering and trying to strategize when is the 378 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: time to go and apply pressure, right Like these deer 379 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: have been pressured, you know, in some areas pretty heavily 380 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: throughout the year. Knowing windows of opportunity are frankly closing 381 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: for this season. When you're going to be looking here 382 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: in the next week when you when you get back 383 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: to Kansas to do a little bit more hunting, are 384 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: you watching the weather most specifically or or is the 385 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: wind more important for the deer to travel with the 386 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: wind you know, poor into or in favor to like 387 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: what's kind of the plan? Like, Okay, I'm going to 388 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: go in there and I'm going to try and I hope, 389 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: I hope it comes together, Like what's the hierarchy of 390 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: decisions there? 391 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 4: You know what? 392 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 5: The window was closing, as you said, And I don't 393 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 5: want to throw I don't want to throw time in there. 394 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: That would be detrimental to future efforts. 395 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 5: But at the same time, there's only so many days 396 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 5: left in the season, so wind is going to be 397 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 5: a factor. It's not going to be determining factor if 398 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 5: I hunt that day. It's going to be the determining 399 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 5: factor on which side of that travel corridor I. 400 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 4: Happen to be on it. 401 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 5: Also, weather, I'd love to have cold weather, so he 402 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 5: gets on his feet early and wants to get in. 403 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: There and and and begin to. 404 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 5: Feed before before it gets too late, or maybe even 405 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 5: feed throughout the day. But if if we've got eighty 406 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 5: degree depatures, I hope that's not the case. But because 407 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 5: I've got just a few days left, I will be 408 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 5: in there. 409 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: Somch what just jumping around here a little bit. So 410 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: obviously you grew up in West Virginia. Is that you 411 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: grew up there, right? So I want you to I 412 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: want you to jump back to someone that's listening in 413 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: West Virginia. They still have a tag in their pocket? 414 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: What was your what was your back of tricks for 415 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: this time a year in West Virginia. 416 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 5: So I've got a good friend who's kind of in 417 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 5: a similar situation. He's been chasing a deer all year 418 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: long back in West Virginia. It's a very significant deer. 419 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 5: This guy is a big buck killer. Uh at to Jamie. 420 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: But he is a big buck killer and he knows 421 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 5: what he's doing. This deer has been given him the slip. 422 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 5: I think that he is, like, like I am planning 423 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 5: to do, is going to start concentrating more on the 424 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 5: food sources out of the areas where he has been 425 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 5: trying to catch up with the deer chasing chasing does 426 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 5: and I would encourage him to put the time in 427 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 5: whenever he has opportunity to be in the stand. Make 428 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 5: sure he's cognizant of the wind, but don't let him 429 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 5: keep him from hunting. But really focus on those food sources, 430 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 5: and if you're able to narrow down how they're accessing 431 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 5: those food sources, particularly on days where that might not 432 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 5: be ideal and they might not be wanting to get 433 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 5: up until right at dark, I encourage Jamie to move 434 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 5: off that food source down down the travel way a 435 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 5: bit so that he can intercept them before shooting black expires. 436 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: It is often a little fascinating if you're in a 437 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: spot where you can see the deer travel. They can 438 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: cover three, four or five hundred yards pretty quickly when 439 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: it's cold, and you know, you see him like you're 440 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: watching the clock. Oh man, we only have fifteen twenty 441 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: more minutes. And you look back up and they're like, oh, 442 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: they're half the distance. You look back up again. Now 443 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: they're they're getting in within a striking zone. So I 444 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: feel that depending on setups and cover and everything else 445 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: in between there, But I wouldn't like, personally, I wouldn't 446 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: feel terrible if it's like, Okay, I think he's six 447 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: seven hundred yards away, betted here, the weather's right, pretty 448 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: darn good chance. If you have to correct food source, 449 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: he'll be there. Would you say that's a fair way 450 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: to describe it, because I'm I'm picturing your Kansas set 451 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: up there miles kind of far. But they can cover 452 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: that pretty quick. 453 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, especially if the weather has them on their feet. 454 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 5: You know, cold, cold temperatures will be in our favor. 455 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 5: I believe my hope is that it plays out that way, 456 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 5: even if we can get a little skiff of snow 457 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 5: on the ground where you've got to come up there 458 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 5: and begin to pall at the ground and look for 459 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 5: those acres. 460 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 4: But we'll see what happens. 461 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 5: But I think that that mile, you know, not only 462 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 5: that the deer that I'm interested in, but every deer 463 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 5: around the area is going to be focusing on food 464 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 5: and they're going to be trying to their way to 465 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 5: that oakmoth that I talked about. 466 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: MM, is that pretty much the main food source for 467 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: that you know general area? 468 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 6: Is there? 469 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: Like is there like a winter wee field that obviously 470 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: there's feeders in Kansas? Like how much is that detrimental 471 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: to you know, your particular setup. 472 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 5: So we've got we've got some ag in the area, 473 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 5: but cornfield has been picked, Beanfield has been picked. They 474 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 5: do get in there at night and scavenge some of 475 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 5: the some of the drop that's that's left in the field, 476 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 5: but by and large, they seem to be the particular 477 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 5: agfields I'm thinking of are somewhat exposed, and I think 478 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 5: they're very hesitant to be out there during daylight hours. 479 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: There the oak moth that I'm talking about is very secluded. 480 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 5: It gets virtually no pressure other than the pressure that 481 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 5: I might put on it. And uh, it seems to 482 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 5: be an open smortas board form throughout the day. 483 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: Wonderful, wonderful. So looking here ahead of a head of schedule, 484 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, the holidays, uh sometimes gives people a little 485 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: bit opportunity to maybe sneak out hunt. You know, the 486 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: seventeenth to Christmas Eve known the weather, known the conditions, 487 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: time of year on a scale one to ten, ten 488 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: being the very best week of the year, one being 489 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: one of the worst weeks of the year. Where do 490 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: you throw the next seven days at? 491 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: You know, if we get the right weather, I'm going 492 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 5: to say it should be seven to eight. I feel 493 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 5: that good about it. 494 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. So do you think you'll be in 495 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: that tree on the twenty second? 496 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 5: I anticipate being in that tree, maybe the twenty second 497 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 5: through the end of the year, if necessary, in and 498 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 5: around that tree. I don't want to overhook one spot, 499 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 5: but yes, I and to the point that even though 500 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 5: I I'm primarily a saddle hundred these days, my platform 501 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 5: is hanging in that tree right now. My saddle platform 502 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 5: is hanging in that tree right now with anticipation when 503 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 5: I get back, I'll be in there. 504 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: Here's this side tangic question, how many saddle platforms do 505 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: you have? Because I wonder that's I like, I talked 506 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: to a lot of guys obviously, and it's like, I 507 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: no quite a few that have like two or three 508 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: saddle platforms to where they can kind of rotate. Is 509 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: that do you fall in that category? 510 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: I have four. I have three that I use primarily. 511 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 5: I've got one that is a it's carbon fiber, the 512 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 5: large stand that Tether makes in carbon fiber, and that's 513 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 5: the one I leave in the tree if I know 514 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 5: that it's going to be a place and I'm going 515 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 5: to revisit. But I really prefer they're small carbon fiber predator. 516 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 5: I carry that with me pretty pretty religiously. And then 517 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 5: I've got a I've got the old car, the old predator, 518 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 5: the metal version that when I need something extra, I 519 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 5: can fall back on it. But I'm typically packing that 520 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 5: small carbon fiber predator. I've got one stick that that 521 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 5: is available to me, but I don't use all that often. 522 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's funny just the transition of saddle hunting. 523 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: It's like it's almost somewhat reverting back to to having 524 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: like obviously multiple multiple spots. But I think having multiple 525 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: platforms makes total and perfect sense instead of having to 526 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: fully tear up and tear down every single time, especially 527 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: spot you plan and returning. 528 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 5: One of the things I've been doing is, and I 529 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 5: kind of got this from from Eberhart. 530 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 4: I know that he preps trees in advance. 531 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 5: So one of the things I've been doing I bought 532 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 5: a big spool of pair cord and throughout the season, 533 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 5: early in the season especially, but throughout the season, if 534 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 5: it's a spot I want to return back to, I'm 535 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 5: putting a pair of cord loop in that tree over 536 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 5: over a branch ahead, over a branch up ahead, and 537 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 5: I will get there that morning time. 538 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 4: I tether too that. 539 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 5: I use a full length repair repel rope and I 540 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 5: do this, pull it up and over loop it in there, 541 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 5: and I can get back up that tree very quietly 542 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 5: without having to get in there and cut limbs and 543 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 5: make a path through the through the understory to get 544 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 5: up to the canopy. 545 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: It works out very very well for me. 546 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty interesting. Well, David, I hope you have 547 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: a great holiday, a great uh travel here, and I hope, 548 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: like heck, you get to seal you get to seal 549 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: the final chatter in the story. I'm really rooting for you. 550 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 5: Thank you, Jake, I appreciate that. Merry Christmas to you 551 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 5: and your listeners. Before we run, are you have you 552 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 5: had some success this year? Tell me about the one 553 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 5: that I know that you've been chasing. 554 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so the one of it chasing he he's still alive, which, honestly, 555 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: now at this point of the season, I'm hopeful that 556 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: he Honestly, it's kind of sick. You were trying to, 557 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: like heck to kill him and now you're like, well, 558 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: maybe maybe it wouldn't be the worst thing on earth 559 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: if he lives another year. And then I actually shot 560 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: a buck last weekend during our firearm season, a mature 561 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: buck that I was hoping to kill. I basically built 562 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: my season into two different legs. Leg one is one 563 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: of two bucks till the end of Thanksgiving. Week of Thanksgiving, 564 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: if I'm unsuccessful, I'm going mature buck hunting, And frankly, 565 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: that was a lot easier than trying to kill just 566 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: darn one deer. So it's been good. 567 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 5: You mentioned that it wouldn't disappoint you if that deer 568 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 5: makes it through. That kind of coincides with something that 569 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 5: hurt Don. You can say earlier this week on the 570 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 5: white Tail Masterclass. 571 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: That I heard, Yeah, yeah, they make it this far. 572 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: It's like, well, gosh, maybe they'll make it the rest 573 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: of the way. And it is. It's always fluid, and 574 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: you can't be married to an idea. But now it's 575 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: been a really fun and exciting season and I hope 576 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: I get a text message enter around the twenty second 577 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: that they connect with that deer. 578 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 5: Thank you, Jake, I really appreciate once again married Christmas. 579 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. 580 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: On all right. Next up on the line, we have 581 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: Bo Martonic with eats East meets West. 582 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 6: How's it going good, Jake, It's good to catch up 583 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 6: with you man. 584 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, We're we're getting deeper and deeper into December, 585 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: and for people to have a tag in their pocket, 586 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: they're probably getting more and more nervous. But we've had 587 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: some good conditions. Pennsylvania's closed for the next seven days, 588 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: so I know you still have a tag in West Virginia, 589 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: but as you know, overall, I know you were just 590 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: in Ohio. What have you been seeing as far as 591 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: deer activity, you know, through cameras, observation, friends, buddies, kind 592 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: of across the board. 593 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 7: Man, it's been. It's actually been pretty dang good across 594 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 7: the board. The weather has been. I mean, we have 595 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 7: a pretty early winner as when you look at the 596 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 7: average over the last you know, five six years. Last 597 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 7: year we have some snow, but this year is like 598 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 7: snow all of December here, cold weather. Right now it's 599 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 7: six degrees at my house, so it's like it's pretty 600 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 7: pretty cold weather. And been seeing the deer putting on 601 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 7: the feedbags a little bit more and moving even after 602 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 7: gun season here in Pennsylvania, just closing still seeing deer 603 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 7: on their feet in daylight camera activity for the most part. 604 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 7: I haven't been out here, but yeah, it's been. It's 605 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 7: been pretty good as far as that goes. 606 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: And so for someone that's hunting, you know, more eastern easterly, yeah, 607 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, very little ag just for just for a 608 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: dummy like me. What is the primary food source in 609 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: your neck of the woods for this time of year? 610 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 7: Snow on the ground, So honestly, acorns are are probably 611 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 7: top of that where that could get a little bit 612 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 7: more difficult here coming probably in the in the coming weeks, 613 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 7: is we have a little bit of a thaw coming 614 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 7: up towards the end of this week, and then it's 615 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 7: gonna get cold again, so you start getting that freezing layer, 616 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 7: it's harder to dig down for the deer to get 617 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 7: to those acorns. So my personal opinion, if I were 618 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 7: to be hunting this week, I'd be wanting an area 619 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 7: that did have acorns still, but also a ton of brows, 620 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 7: you know, green brier, BlackBerry briers, things like that that 621 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 7: they're nipping on and being able to to you to 622 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 7: browse on in the area where there's acorns. In addition, 623 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 7: places that have spring seats stuff like that that might 624 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 7: stay thought a little bit longer as far as they're 625 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 7: not going to completely freeze up and they can still 626 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 7: dig some of those, you know, the acorns and food 627 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 7: that's on the ground. 628 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: And so if you had a rank your favorite acorn 629 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: for this time of year, do you have one or 630 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: is it just a matter of finding acorns? 631 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 7: They're eating whatever's there, honestly, but it seems like red 632 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 7: oak and chestnut oak seemed to be the ones that 633 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 7: are left on the ground. 634 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 6: Right now. 635 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: And I know you recently shot a deer in Ohio 636 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: with snow on the ground. How did that come together? 637 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: It's non you know out of state hunt. Was that 638 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: a new area area you've hunted in the past, and 639 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: how did it all come together? 640 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 7: So I'd hunted the area in October for like two 641 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 7: days during bo season, went back to that area. I 642 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 7: had three days to hunt with a gun and didn't 643 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 7: the area I was in, the acorns were kind of 644 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 7: scooped up already. I'd sat all day the first day 645 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 7: gun season. I don't like walking around and bumping deer 646 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 7: to other people. So I sat all day nothing and 647 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 7: went back the next morning after some snow, and then 648 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 7: I realized, I was like, there's. 649 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 6: The acorns are gone. 650 00:30:59,760 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: You know. 651 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 7: I kind of went in blind and just set up 652 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 7: based on what I saw in October. And so I 653 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 7: moved to a completely new area that I hadn't been 654 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 7: before and started finding a ton of acorns. And really, 655 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 7: to make a long story short with it, what it 656 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 7: came down to is there was digging everywhere. There's a 657 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 7: lot of acorns on these ridges, and I just kept 658 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 7: kind of pushing to where it was starting to get thicker. 659 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 7: And I think the thing is that makes it difficult, 660 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 7: especially when you going out to state hunt this time 661 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 7: of year is like when you see snow is such 662 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 7: a great teacher. You can learn so much by seeing 663 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 7: where they're feeding at, seeing the tracks, seeing the beds, 664 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 7: where you can almost get over excited because you'll see 665 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 7: beds all over in the oak trees and where they're 666 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 7: feeding at, but it's likely nighttime activity. So and figuring 667 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 7: out what that area looks like for quote unquote thickness 668 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 7: is also very different. There's some areas that you can 669 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 7: go that's very thick everyone, and that's different than an 670 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 7: area that's just mature timber. And then all of a 671 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 7: sudden you get a green brier patch and some vines 672 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 7: and some other blowdowns that start to create better security 673 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 7: habitat as well as brows around that. So where I 674 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 7: ended up catching up with this buck was I got 675 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 7: into this big bowl system. 676 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 6: So there's a. 677 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 7: Couple of finger ridges that ran off a main ridge 678 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 7: in a bowl that had a bunch of like kind 679 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 7: of spring seeps running through it and created some more vegetation. 680 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 6: So there was a ton of green brier in there. 681 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 7: There was some oak trees acorns that were kind of 682 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 7: like funneling down because of the way the terrain that 683 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 7: acorns had rolled down into some of those little gullies 684 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 7: and created like a concentrated spot for it. And up 685 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 7: above was just a nasty thicket that was on top 686 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 7: of the ridge. And when i'd snuck in there that 687 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 7: day it was about one o'clock, I'd seen three different 688 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 7: bucks bedded down actually in the center of that bowl, 689 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 7: on this little tiny bump or high spot of greenbrier, 690 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 7: and they were actually fighting and doing stuff middle of 691 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 7: the day, just you know, a couple of younger bucks 692 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 7: in one. It was a pretty decent one that I 693 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 7: took a lot of self control for me not to 694 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 7: pull the trigger on, and I just ended up still hunting. 695 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 6: My way through there. 696 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 7: Came back and I went out, and I thought I'd 697 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 7: kind of blown up the area. And this is a 698 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 7: lesson that I think is something I've learned before and 699 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 7: I had to relearn on this hunt. Was I was 700 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 7: going through there, and when you get into a bowl, 701 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 7: wind swirl, and so I've got wind going up to 702 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 7: where I think the rest of the deer might be bedded. 703 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 6: I've got it going down I'm like, all right, I 704 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 6: blew out that area. 705 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 7: So I went back out to the point of the 706 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 7: ridge and sat for the evening. And I was sitting 707 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 7: there and I'm just like, there's not a deer coming 708 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 7: in here. You know, you just get that feeling of 709 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 7: like you're just sitting here just to sit here. And 710 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 7: I was like, I need to go back to that bowl. 711 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 7: And I'm like, I knew I already kind of blew 712 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 7: it up two and a half three hours before that. 713 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 7: But I mean, they're always getting wind of things that 714 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 7: are danger It doesn't mean they're. 715 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 6: Gonna run or not do anything. 716 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 7: I haven't been there in a while, so I snuck 717 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 7: back in there before last night, and uh, the biggest 718 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 7: year that I had seen in the area came out 719 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 7: of that thicket and walked into fifty yards for me, 720 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 7: where I shot them with the with the muzzloader. 721 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a lot of a lot of good 722 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: lessons in there. You find the spot in the spot, 723 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, yeah, no, that's really. 724 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 6: It's right, And I was. 725 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 7: It was the last day I had to hunt, so 726 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 7: I was like kind of trying to push the envelope 727 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 7: a little bit and be a little more aggressive with 728 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 7: it instead of just you know, sitting there all day. 729 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 7: But that would have been the right move once I 730 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 7: saw those bucks in there, like all right, I found 731 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 7: the concentration of the year where they feel good. 732 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 6: Maybe I should just sit here the rest of the day. 733 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 7: But the whole the whole point, and you know, even 734 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 7: telling that story is I think when it comes to 735 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 7: late season, something that I've been hunting of the last 736 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 7: four or five years is and when you're in big Timber, 737 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 7: not a lot of ads finding that food, but also 738 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 7: that security and browse cover that's all in that one spot. 739 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 7: Being able to decipher the sign between nighttime and daytime, 740 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 7: and especially when you don't have cameras to run or 741 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 7: you're not using cameras in there, it's it's kind of 742 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 7: feeling it out a little bit. 743 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so you know, looking here for the next 744 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: seven days, you call it seventeenth to Christmas Eve. For 745 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: someone that is going to be able to hunt this 746 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: weekend or maybe they have, you know, the work schedule 747 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: a little bit is a little bit lighter over the 748 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: next seven days, what would you tell them to focus 749 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: on kind of no matter where they're at in the country. 750 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, so personally, like it depends. I'm going to say 751 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 7: one thing, It depends a little bit. Honestly, No, it 752 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 7: doesn't depend. But I do like the fact that there 753 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 7: is a little bit of a warm up coming. It 754 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 7: seems like in late season when you have you know, 755 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 7: single degree temps depending on where you're at, Like for 756 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 7: us here, that's not typical this time of year, and 757 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 7: you know, we usually have snow on the ground, maybe 758 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 7: a little colder. 759 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 6: But really cold temps. 760 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 7: It it almost seems like it not locks them down, 761 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 7: but they're conserving their energy a little bit more. But 762 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 7: once you get some warm up, you get some mid 763 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 7: thirties into that forty degree a little bit, it feels 764 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 7: like in some some ways out it feels like a 765 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 7: heat wave to it, and it almost seems like those 766 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 7: deer get up and are feeding more earlier moving around. 767 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 7: So if that's happening in your area, definitely take advantage 768 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 7: of it. But I mean, food, you hear it all 769 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 7: the time when it comes to late season, doesn't matter 770 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 7: if you're an ad country where you're at, food is 771 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 7: definitely king in a lot of that spot. But definitely 772 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 7: don't overlook the cover aspect of it. And covers easier 773 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 7: to find now with the leaves being off the trees, 774 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 7: it's a little more concentrated. So that's that's what I 775 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 7: would look at to find an area to go to. 776 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: No, that's great now, scale one to ten, one being 777 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: one of the worst weeks of the year, ten being 778 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: one of the best weeks of the year over the 779 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: next seven days December seventeenth of the twenty fourth. Where 780 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: do you put it for you yourself? If you're going 781 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: to be able to get out and go to West Virginia. 782 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 6: Or something, Yeah, I am not going to be able to. 783 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 6: But how I would. 784 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 7: Put it is I'd probably give it a seven. I 785 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 7: would rank it higher, but in most of these states 786 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 7: here gun season had just closed, so that does add 787 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 7: a little bit more on the pressure aspect of it. 788 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 7: So yeah, I would put it at seven. 789 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 6: All right. 790 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: And if people want to tune into your podcast and 791 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: follow along for the remainder of the season, or maybe 792 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: they had a tough season and they want to learn more, 793 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: where should they go and listen to your podcast? 794 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, you can find it a Spotify, Apple East Meats 795 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 7: West Hunt, or on YouTube just under my name Bomartnic. 796 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 7: You can find podcasting there and all the links to 797 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 7: everything that East meets us hun dot com. 798 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: Awesome. We thank you so much. 799 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 6: Bo Yeah, thanks Jake. 800 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: There, you guys have it. I hope you have a 801 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: great week. I hope you guys have a great Christmas. 802 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: I hope you get all your Christmas shopping done and 803 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: get a chance to sneak out and either bear the 804 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: elements or enjoy a mini heatwave and hopefully connect with 805 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: the deer, or just get out there and ultimately enjoy it. 806 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: We will see you next week. See you