1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, I really don't work. I just fixed cars. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: I haven't worked the day in my life. It's just 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm bored by other things. There's just something about the 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: mechanical side of automobiles that, you know, just piques my curiosity, 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: I believe it's wastegate management. Solenoid on on the turbo. 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: Okay, I got one. 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 4: It clicks. 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: I think it's solinoid clicking. 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Put it do this way. If it's clicking and there's 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: no dashboard warning lights, the systems operating as design. 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 5: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the Car Doctor. 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 5: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 5: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 5: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 5: the phone and call in. 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: take your call at eight five five five ninety nine. 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: Hundred and now. 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: He you know, Tom must have been reading my mind 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: when he did the opens this week. I was thinking 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: about Star Wars. Star Wars is on my mind. I 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: don't know why, but it is, and it must be 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: the universe reaching out to me with the Force because 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: I was grocery shopping this morning and just as an aside, 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: a little bit of humor here. Seriously, have you seen 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: they now have light and dark side Oreo cookies? What 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: do you get when you open up the bag? Which 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: side of the force comes through? It was the craziest thing. 30 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out if vanilla or are they chocolate. 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to go buy a bag. And regardless, 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: just a little you know, little car doctor humor. But 33 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: they now star Wars Oreo cookies. Who knew a movie 34 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: franchise would become a cookie somewhere fifty years in the future. Self, 35 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: that is an America boy. I don't know what is 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: or I talked about a serious problem. We're talking about 37 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: something a little more. You know, auto repair is like 38 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: cheap underwear. You never know what's going to creep up 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: on you. And the problem with auto repair is you've 40 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: got to be ever digilant and aware and no fooling around. 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: It's it's you know. One of the things I always 42 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: teach mechanics whenever they come to work for me. One 43 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: of the things I always try to encourage whenever I 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: talk in groups is you can't you can't fool around. 45 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: There's no margin of error, there's no assumption, there's no hey, 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna be okay, because what could go wrong? Yeah, 47 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: you kid about it a lot, but you know, I 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: think auto mechanics as a rule, I think they live 49 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: in a lot of peril a lot of times. You know, 50 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: you got to think about it. You've got a six 51 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: thousand pound two ton three ton vehicle over your head. 52 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: All the time, you're counting on mechanical arms of lists 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: to support that vehicle. You're counting out a whole bunch 54 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: of safety factors all the time to always work. We 55 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: had to do a set of struts this week on 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: a twenty one Cadillac I'm sorry, a nineteen Cadillac Escalade, 57 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: and they worked really well. You know, we knew what 58 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: we wanted. We were able to look them up. We 59 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: went out to autozonepro dot com and look them up 60 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: as I take you here in the shop courtesy of AutoZone, 61 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: and we were able to get our Dura less struts 62 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: and all of our pieces and parts that we needed 63 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: to mount them. But the problem with the repair was 64 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: the coil springs GM and GM does not and no 65 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: one does not release them as a as a solid 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: set you can't buy, so you have to reuse the 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: coil springs, and the coil springs on the front of 68 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: GM suburbans and pickup trucks. It's a pretty massive, pretty 69 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: high spring rate. Now you have to be careful. You 70 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: don't know when this is going to fail. You don't know, well, 71 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: not that you think that it's going to fail, but 72 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: you don't know when there's going to be a problem. 73 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: You know, coil springs are hard to do enough, or 74 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: struts and shocks are hard enough to do by themselves, 75 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: but the problem becomes you know, you're always watching. Danny's 76 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: done this job at half a dozen times if he's 77 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: done it once, and you know this one was no different. 78 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: He connected the strut assembly, or that I call it 79 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: a strut. It's really a shock absorber with a coil 80 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: spring around it, but it's a similar thing. He assembled 81 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: the shock into the spring compressor and started to tighten 82 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: it down. As he started to tighten it down, it 83 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: reached a point of where the shock came off the 84 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: seat and it was loose on the seat, and he 85 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: was just about to release the nut from the top, 86 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: but it took him a little bit longer because this 87 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: is an electric shock that requires it's a different setup. 88 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: There's a wire coming out the top of the shock 89 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: for this, and you have to grab the strut correctly, 90 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: which we did and then released the nut. And the 91 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: problem was, I guess the strut compressor is a little tired, 92 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: even though it's not that old, and it slipped. And 93 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: it slipped at that moment where if Danny had was 94 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: a little faster, and I told him, you know, it's 95 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: a good thing you were a little slow this day. 96 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: This was on Wednesday. I said, it's a good thing 97 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: he was a little slow because the compressor, the finger 98 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: that hooks under the coil spring let go. Metal fatigue, 99 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, didn't want to do it anymore, maybe 100 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: just plain out slipped something about the way the strut 101 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: was being held. But it was a dangerous pop. You 102 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: heard it. I heard it clear across the shop, just 103 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: like something let go. And I came over and you okay, yeah, 104 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of a startled look on his face. 105 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: There's a danger there. There's an element. In order to 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: repair that, you've always got to be aware and true 107 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: to his nature. Danny got up dusted himself off, and 108 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, we went about solving the problem. The problem 109 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: we had was now the strut compressor was broken, and 110 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: you know, we're not going to get another piece or 111 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: apart for that struck compressor same day. We've actually looked 112 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: it up and it's a couple of days out, so 113 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: we'll have it solved next week. But now what do 114 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: I do. I've got this nineteen escalade on the on 115 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: the rack, and I've got parts apart, I've got suspension apart, 116 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: I've got it's a major undertaking, and now I've got 117 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: to I've got to get this car back together. Another 118 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: thing I always think about order repair is it's kind 119 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: of like it a carnival. You know, it's a little 120 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: bit of a carnival, a little bit of a circus sometimes. 121 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: And I say that in a good way, not in 122 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: terms of the chaos that can be there, but because 123 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: there is a camaraderie, there is a moment of let's 124 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: help everybody get squared away. I reached out to a 125 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: friend of mine, Kevin over at Paramas Chevrolet here in Paramus, 126 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: New Jersey, and Kevin went and talked to his service 127 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: manager and he understood the situation, and they let me 128 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: come down and Kevin and Company they helped me put 129 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: together you know, we helped swap over the strut. You know, 130 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: I had a broken tool. There was no way I 131 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: was going to get it done today. They wanted to 132 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: let me accommodate my customer and make my customer happy. 133 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: And as always I'll be eternally grateful. But it's like 134 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: that carnival, you know when they yell hey, Rube and 135 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: everybody comes running very old school carnival thing. You know, 136 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: there's a camaraderie in order repair. There's a danger in 137 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: order repair. There's an element in order repair that it's 138 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: a very small brotherhood or you know, it's just a 139 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: very small conglomeration of people trying to keep cars on 140 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: the road and keep people safe. And it's funny because 141 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: you can sit and talk to another mechanic and share 142 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: the same stories and they really are all the same 143 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: stories with just different names and faces attached to them. 144 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: And I guess my point is we kick off this 145 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: hour of the Car Doctor, is that you know, it's 146 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: just like cheap underwear. You just never want it's going 147 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: to creep up on you. There's a danger to it. 148 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: There's an excitement to it, there's a responsibility to it. 149 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: I think order repair is a lot more than just 150 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: about you know, it's a way I make my living, 151 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: It's a way a lot of people make their living. 152 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: It's something internal that people carry with them and they 153 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: take a lot of pride in what they do. The 154 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: good ones do anyway, and they're forever trying to learn 155 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: and grow, evolve and just sort of nurture and move 156 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: the industry along. And I think that's a big factor, 157 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, And I think situations like that. Had to 158 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: go up there and talk to Kevin and you know, 159 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: he didn't have to say yes. They could have just said, hey, Ron, sorry, 160 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: shop policy is no, you're not allowed to do that. 161 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: But they didn't. And because they knew that, they knew 162 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: the gravity of the situation, and they realized, you know, 163 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: how important it was, and it was you know, it's 164 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: it's there was There was no way I was going 165 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: to solve that. I was going to have to find 166 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: someplace that had a and unfortunately, you know, okay, why 167 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: don't I go to it? You know, is there another 168 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: shop in town? 169 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: No? 170 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: Because I'm the guy that's got the tool for that. 171 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: Job that that didn't work, So you know what happens then, 172 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to be the last stop, 173 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: you got to be the last stop where else you're 174 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: going to turn it, It gets to be it gets 175 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: to be a problem. So just thanks Kevin Company, I 176 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: appreciate it, and for everybody else. Yes, autozonepro dot com 177 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: helped me. We're able to look up what we had 178 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: to look up and you know, go from there. So 179 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: just important. Let's let's let's pull over and take a pause. 180 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll kick the garage doors open. 181 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm on Nanny and the car doctor. Don't go anywhere. 182 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: No God, that's right. 183 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: If you call and we're not live, you can leave 184 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: a message and we'll call you back to get you 185 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: on the air with Ron eight five five five. 186 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: Six zero nine nine zero zero. 187 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: Speaking of Ron here he is. 188 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I just go back to that as 189 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there thinking about Danny in the way that 190 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: strut compressor failed and almost took him out. You know, 191 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: I haven't had anything like that. We had a lift 192 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: failure in the shop about fifteen years ago and it 193 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: was just as scary. So you know, order repair if 194 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: you're out there doing it. Be aware. If you're out 195 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: there using it and someone is your technician, mechanic, et cetera, 196 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: respect them and be nice to them. You know they're 197 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: putting their life on the line. Let's go over to 198 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: the phone. Let's go talk to Ernie and Jersey fourteen 199 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: gmc Savanna and Ernie. Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir, 200 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: how can I help? 201 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: Hey, Ron, big fan of me, listen to this show 202 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: many years. You So, about two weeks ago, my check 203 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 4: engine light came on and uh I got a code 204 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 4: P zero four to four to two, and uh I 205 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: changed the ev apps solonoid, purge valve and clear the codes. 206 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 4: And you know, I put at least five hundred miles 207 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 4: on the truck since and when I check it for codes, 208 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: there's no more codes, but there's a permanent code. It 209 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: says P zero four four to two permanent. Right, My 210 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: checked engine light's not on, right, and uh I don't 211 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: know what to do. 212 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: Did the EVAP monitor run? 213 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: I think, so it's been at least five hundred miles. Nope, 214 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 4: don't be driving long. 215 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: You're you're assuming and you're emotional. Brother, you know, did 216 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: you look go look and see does your scantal show 217 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: you monitors run yes, day. No, Here's what a permanent 218 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: Here's what a permanent diagnostic code is. Okay, let me 219 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: ask or let me ask this question. Are you trying 220 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: to get this vehicle through inspection? 221 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it actually came on today before I was going on. 222 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Right, you're the reason the industry created permanent diagnostic codes. Congratulations, 223 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: And I say that kind of tongue in cheek, but 224 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: here's here's the reason. Right. People will clear codes, they'll 225 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: get a fault code, they'll clear the code, they'll get 226 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: the monitoror run and go through inspection. But then the 227 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: federal government decided, hey, we want to start to see 228 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: what's going on, and we want we want a reminder, 229 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: we want an indicator. So it kind of it kind 230 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: of stops that from happening. A permanent fault code. It's 231 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: like it's like your your broken arm, God forbid, right, 232 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: and you know there's a little bit of pain in 233 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: your elbow or the break wherever it happened. For a 234 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: long period of time, your body has memory about that. 235 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: Computers doing the same thing. It knows that you had 236 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: a four to four to two. Did you diagnose or 237 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: just change the purge valve. 238 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: I just changed it, okay, So. 239 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: You don't know if that fixed it or not. Right, 240 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: you just figured what the heck, let me throw some 241 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: parts at it. 242 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: Truck's got one hundred and eighty five thousand miles. I guess, okay, 243 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: I couldn't hurt. 244 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: Well, it can't hurt. But you know, it could also 245 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: be a vent. It could be a leak around the 246 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: fuel filler neck. It could be RUSS somewhere. It could 247 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: be I'm not beating you up, Ernie. I'm just saying 248 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: you're you're applying the logic of mileage and age to 249 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: how to repair a car. I only know one way. 250 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: You got to diagnose it, right, And I say that 251 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: with love. Listen. I'm not sure you're like family. You're 252 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: a long time listener, okay, but you gotta know what 253 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna get when you call me. So let's let's 254 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: assume the purge valve fixed it all right, which is dangerous, 255 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: and you and I both know the reason why. Until 256 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: it's monitor runs, Until the self test runs that the 257 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: computer says, hey, Ernie's van, you know now, as is 258 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: evapp monitor, it runs the test, it sees no leak. 259 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: It's it sees the condition that caused it is cleared. 260 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: It will then clear the permanent fault. It will not 261 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: do it beforehand? Does does does that along? 262 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 4: Would that normally take? 263 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: How mamuch gases in the tank? 264 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: How? 265 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: What kind of driving are you doing? You know? What's 266 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: what's the weather like outside? All of that? All evapp 267 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: evapp monitors are some of the hardest to resolve. Okay, 268 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: how good is the new part you put in? You 269 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: don't know how many times I fix an EVAP problem, 270 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: and I will test the new part because I trust 271 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: nothing new means what never ever worked? You know that? Right? 272 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 4: Right? 273 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: So your your. 274 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: Only test I knew how to do was try to 275 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 4: blow through it, and uh it didn't didn't blow through it. 276 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: Well, let's do this. If you if you were to 277 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: disconnect the vacuum side or I'm sorry, disconnect the hose 278 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: going to the tank on the purge valve and then 279 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: disconnected electrically and put your finger over the hall kind 280 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: of what the end of your finger where rubber glove 281 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: is handy? I wearn' rubber gloves in the shop all 282 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: the time. Put your finger against the purge valve. Do 283 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: you feel suction there with an electrically disconnected with the 284 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: hose off. If you feel vacuum there at any level 285 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: that valve good or bad? Is bad? Good or new 286 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: is bad? Good or old, I'll get it right yet, 287 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: good or old is bad? 288 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: Right? 289 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: New or old? 290 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 4: Right? 291 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: Long day? Right. My point is it's an easy it's 292 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: an easy test. Disconnected electrically run the engine. Do you 293 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: feel vacuum on the side of the purge valve leading 294 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: back to the tank? If you feel suction there, then 295 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: that valve's bad. It shouldn't. It's it's it's like a 296 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: toilet with a bad flapper on the seat, and the 297 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: toilet's always running. Okay, But but is that the reason 298 00:14:55,160 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: why you've got the fall you've got. You've got a 299 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: front door to your house, you've got a back door 300 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: to your house, right, and if the front door doesn't 301 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: CeAl or the back door doesn't CeAl, you're gonna have 302 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: airflow through the house. Agreed, Right. Purge valves in the front, 303 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: vent valves in the back, If either one of them 304 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: is bad, it's going to cause a drop in fuel 305 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: tank pressure. Red red as a voltage signal off the 306 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: tank and the computer's going to know something's up, something's leaking, capiche. 307 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: You didn't do anything wrong, Ernie, you're trying, but I 308 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: just don't want you getting emotional. All right, because it's 309 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: got it's got a lot of miles on it, and 310 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: it's old. Is no reason not to do a diagnosis 311 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: if that's the case. You know, one of the funniest 312 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: calls we ever had here on the show in the 313 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: thirty something years is the guy who called up one 314 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: day and said, and he had a he had a 315 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: he had a performance problem. And he put like twelve 316 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: hundred dollars worth of parts in this thing al a 317 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: fuel pump, a pressure this so that, a regulator, you know. 318 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: And I said, why don't you get it diagnosed? And 319 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: he said, I don't want to spend any money on 320 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: the car. Its old. Really, that's that's what was the 321 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: twelve hundred dollars that you spent and how many saturdays 322 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: changing all this stuff? So I just don't want you 323 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: to fall into that trap. Okay, I get it. Evapp 324 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: is out of most people's wheelhouse just because of tools 325 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: they may or may not have. But some of it 326 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: you can test on your own, you know. But one 327 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: thing I'll tell you. You can't check the fuel filler 328 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: neck for integrity. You can't really test event valve. It's hard. 329 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: You can check a purge, that's easy. What kind of 330 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: scan tool do you have? Let me leave it here 331 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: for you. What kind of scan tool do you have? 332 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 4: Does it okay? 333 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: Does it show? Does it let you go in and 334 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: look at mote six testing? 335 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: You know it has uh? I don't see mote six 336 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 4: on it. 337 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: You know what mote six is, Ernie, It's okay if 338 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,119 Speaker 1: you don't. 339 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, it's the early signs. 340 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, early signs. 341 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 5: Right. 342 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: It's it's like you always hear me say, right, are 343 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: you sick on Monday? But the check engine light doesn't 344 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: come on till Wednesday when your fever's full blown? So 345 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, one of the ways you would diagnose that. 346 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: What I want you to do is when you get 347 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: off the call, go on your scan tool. You're looking 348 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: for readiness status. The tool will tell you what is 349 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: what is the readiness state of the vehicle? All right? 350 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: Each individual system, EVAP, misfire, fuel system and so on. 351 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: Right down the line. It'll either say yes, no, complete 352 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: or incomplete, okay or not okay. Every scan tool is 353 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: a little different, but they all mean the same thing, 354 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: all right. If they if the evaporative emissions monitor has 355 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: not run, it will not clear that permanent DTC. That's it. 356 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: That's the law. That's just no science, no magic, no 357 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, no PFM. Just it's just the way it works. 358 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: So once that, once that evap monitor runs, it will 359 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: clear that code if the system is fixed, and if 360 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: it isn't, it's going to turn the check engine life 361 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: back on again. And how you drive and how much 362 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: fuel is in the tank, and the outside ambient temperature 363 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of other factors all come into play. 364 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: All right, kiddo, call me if you need more and 365 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: keep going. You're learning. I'm running any in the car doctor, 366 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Welcome back, run an 367 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: Anie in the car doctor. Listen, don't think harshly, right, 368 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: If you're out there and you're trying to fix something, 369 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: you got to diagnose it. If you're not going to 370 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: diagnose it, you're going to suffer the consequences. And you 371 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: know what, if I'm ruffling your feathers, that's good because 372 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: you know what, a long time ago, a lot of people, 373 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: you know what they ruffled my feathers and they put 374 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: a little sense of pride into me, and it made 375 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: me want to work harder and learn more. And you 376 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: know what, now I can fix it. And that's what's 377 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: just so important. Don't just sit there and assume it's 378 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: a dangerous word. So understand how the system works. But again, 379 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm always glad for the phone calls. Let's go over 380 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: to David in California, and speaking of looking for information, David, 381 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: how can I help Ron and Anian at your servicer. 382 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: Hither? Ron, thank you for taking my call. 383 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 6: I haven't listened. 384 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: There for several years. 385 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. 386 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 3: But one of the pieces that I've been trying to 387 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: try to understand more is my cantle. And there was 388 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: a resource I believe you recommended it by an author, 389 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: probably about three years ago, and I purchased a book, 390 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: but now I can't find it, so I'm trying to 391 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 3: figure out how to get another. 392 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: One was the book Getting to Know OBD two. 393 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 3: Who was the author's name? I don't recall that. 394 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: Jerry Trulia. 395 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I know I know who Jerry is. No, it 396 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: wasn't Jerry, Yeah. 397 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: G Jerry G. Jerry Jerry G. Jerry truly as we 398 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: as we call him. Jerry's got an excellent book out there, 399 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: getting to Know ob D two. He wrote it probably 400 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: over twenty years ago. You can if you go out 401 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: to his if you go out to the website a 402 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: T T S Training dot com, a T T S 403 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: Training dot Com and look it up getting to Know 404 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: ob D two. I think it's about sixty bucks to 405 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: purple book. There was another there was another ob D 406 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: two book. I can't recall it now. I have to 407 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: go look in the library. But Jerry's is always top 408 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: of mind. I still use it to this day. 409 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 4: You know. 410 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: It's a great reference and a good resource. 411 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, I've been to jerry Is online seminars. 412 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: Also, Jerry's the man. 413 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: He's uh yeah, he's the guy. He is. He does 414 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 3: the one hour lunch topic thing. 415 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, I have to I got to get I 416 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: haven't had Jerry on this now that we say this, 417 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: I have to get Jerry back. I haven't had Jerry 418 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: on the show in a long time. And he's he's 419 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: always a fun time to uh, you know, to have 420 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: to thank you. Yeah, help me too, David. 421 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 6: Uh Well, I'm I'm also out of motive instructor. So 422 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 6: I'm trying to find easy to understand resources to teach 423 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 6: my students. 424 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: What what's talking about? 425 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: What level? What level are your students? I'm sorry, what 426 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: level are your students? David? 427 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 4: Currently? 428 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 3: They're at the college level I have and I currently 429 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 3: teach high school teach uh students. So I've got them all. 430 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 3: I got them all. 431 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, of course they are, and they're you know 432 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: what you're You've got such an important task. You're raising 433 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: the next generation. And you know, I've always said this. 434 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll agree, but you ever think 435 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: about how did you and I get so interested in cars? 436 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: Right because we grew up at the right time, right 437 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: wet you know, the sixties seventies, and yeah, we were 438 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: so fortunate we were right there. 439 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: You know. 440 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: I said to my wife this morning, we were having 441 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: tea and coffee and we were talking and she says, 442 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: what's new with the show? And I said, I'm trying 443 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: to put together a new series. Tell me what you 444 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: think of this, David. I'm going around and I'm making 445 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: a list of car guys, car people. You know, how 446 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: did you get your first car? What was so fascinating 447 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: about it? What made you want to buy a big 448 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: block Chevelle. What made you want to buy a Shelby GT. Right? 449 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: And and and record that, record that story for posterity 450 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: on digital. Right. So three hundred years from now, maybe 451 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: somebody will turn around and listen to this radio show 452 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: and go, wow, they used to talk about these things 453 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: called cars, right, you know? I told her, I said, I. 454 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: Talked about that. 455 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 7: You're going to say I talked about new technologies to 456 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 7: my students all the time, and that I get a 457 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 7: comment from my students, they said, the heck did you 458 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 7: guys fix cars without a scantle? 459 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 3: I look on my because we could hear it, right, 460 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 3: and they look at me all questions. You know, Well, we. 461 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: Could fix it, we could hear it, we could see it, 462 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: we could sell it. It was a sensation, you know 463 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: it was. It was a would have, could have, should have. 464 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: But things were so mechanical, you know. I remember you 465 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: didn't get stuck with old cars. You could you could 466 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: get creative, you know, I still I still remember. We 467 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: were down the Jersey Shore. We had a Ford van 468 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 1: with a it was like a sixty three Ford van 469 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: and the fuel pump failed and we we figured out 470 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: on a Saturday night that we went down to the 471 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: hardware store, bought our gas can, filled it with gas, 472 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: and we we kind of gravity fed. You're right, we 473 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: kind of gravity fed and and sort of. But we 474 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: got home. We got up the Garden State Parkway. Uh, 475 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, it took us about four hours instead of 476 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: two or one whatever the timeframe was. You you know, 477 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: as time goes by, yourne changes things. But you know 478 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: you could do that today. I mean, my lord, today, 479 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: if today the most important thing you need if you're 480 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: stuck on the side of the road is a cell 481 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: phone and triple A because you're just not You're just 482 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: not going to fix much. You're just not going to 483 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: fix much. So David, yeah, go take a look at 484 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: Jerry's book. If you need anything. Brother, I'm here for you. 485 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm proud to know you. You're doing a great thing 486 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: out there, you really are. 487 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: Why I might share this with you. Also, I'm also 488 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: a volunteer for the Lions Omobilia Museum. I'm here in 489 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: uh Southern California, and so if you ever come out 490 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: to Southern California, you look it up to drag racing history. 491 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: Sure, Lions, Dragway, Lions raceway. Absolutely lions. 492 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: You know it. So check out the website. If you're 493 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 3: in the neighborhood, you call me and you'll be my gap. 494 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, David. If I if I ever make 495 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: it out that far, that's two people I have to 496 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: come see. Now in California. I have a friend Mark, 497 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: who's on the list of you know, collectible cars were 498 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: we're going to set up those interviews. Mark's going to 499 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: be on and I gotta go to southern California for 500 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: two things now, all right, so you never know what 501 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: the future holds, my friend, all right, you'll be well. 502 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for all you do, for all 503 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: about You're right. 504 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: Welcome, sir, happy to do it. Yep, yeah, I said 505 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: to my wife, I said, you know, it's not it's 506 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: not that these are my cars, and it's not that 507 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, we're just passing through history, because we are. 508 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: We're seeing a transition. We're seeing a moment of how 509 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: things work in terms of that evolution to whatever that 510 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: next form of transportation is. That that that that change over. 511 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: You know, this is that moment when somebody said, hey, 512 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: we don't want to ride the big smelly horse anymore. 513 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: We want something with four tires and an engine, and 514 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: it's just it's just, you know, they're going to look 515 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: back in ten, twenty thirty, forty fifty, one hundred years 516 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: and you know what was a hemi kuda? Could you imagine? 517 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 1: What was a road runner? What was a corvette? Nobody'll know? 518 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, what was it like hanging out a dairy 519 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: queen and watching guys go street racing and you know, 520 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: two bits for a quarter and you know we only 521 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: race for fifty yards and what does all that mean? 522 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: You know? I was at I was at somebody's wedding 523 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: last week and I said to his brother, who happens 524 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: to be a DJ and he does oldies, I said, 525 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: here's the idea. I said, why don't you call me 526 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: up and we'll review all the car move or car 527 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: songs from a certain era, and we'll explain to everybody 528 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: what a little deuce coop, you know, with four on 529 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: the floor, dual quads and all that. We'll explain what 530 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: all that means, because it's like Greek to everybody, nobody 531 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: understands what the heck it is. It's just another culture. 532 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: And that's what three hundred years from now, they're going 533 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: to look back and there go. There was this guy 534 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: on the radio, remember radios, and you know he talked 535 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: about these things called cars, and it's just remember that 536 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: we're passing through history. Let me pass along eight five 537 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero Zero'm running any 538 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: of the car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. 539 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back Ron and Nanny and the car Doctor. Let's 540 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: go over to Tim and Connecticut. Tim. Welcome to the 541 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir. How can I help. 542 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 2: Well? I first want to thank you Ron or a 543 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: diagnosis a number of years ago, I bad injectors in 544 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: the Corvette, which you solved. Welcome over the radio. 545 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, but see, I don't I don't. I get confused though. 546 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: I don't remember what I had for once yesterday, So 547 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's I'll tell you a true story. 548 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: I saw somebody at the grocery store this morning. I 549 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: think I know him. I think he's from the gym, 550 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: but I don't recognize him because I don't know what 551 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: kind of car you drive. So I'm very bad. But 552 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: if you tell me the car, I'll tell you the problem. 553 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: That's the way it works with me, you know, I know. 554 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: So what do you got today, thank you. 555 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 2: Here's the input. Twenty eighteen Toyota Corolla sXe left to 556 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: us by an elderly relative. Apparently last year they clipped 557 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: the curb at a decent rate and gouged out the 558 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: rim flattened attire. The car was parked for a while. 559 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: I was asked to take care of that, which I did, 560 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: and what remained were two very annoying malfunction signals on 561 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: the front dash malfunction for lane Departure Assist d YEP 562 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: and the pre crash warning PCW. 563 00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: Pedestrian pedestrian cross pedestrian collision warning. You mean is what 564 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: it is? Okay? How cock eyde's the steering wheel? 565 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: Pardon me? 566 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: How cock eyed is the steering wheel? Did you get 567 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: an alignment. 568 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: Done the the car? The car actually runs fine? Okay, there, 569 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: all of the all of the mechanics, keep it running smooth, 570 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: forty plus miles to the gallon. 571 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, no, but but no no no. What 572 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm what I'm saying is, tim is it had a 573 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: curb impact enough to bend to ruin a rim? Right? 574 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: Yes? 575 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: Okay? How's the alignment? Did anybody do a wheel alignment 576 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: to this car? 577 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: No? That hasn't been done yet. 578 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: All right? Did did? But you replace the rim and 579 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: the tire. I assume you're you're driving this car? Yes, 580 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: how straight is well? Yeah? Go ahead? 581 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: The gouge, the gouge that was left in the rim. 582 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: I was able to file down, okay, and there is 583 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: there is barely a quarter inch triangle missing new tyronic. 584 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: All right, So so let me explain it to you 585 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: like this, all right, A DOS driver systems? All right, 586 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: Automated driver assist systems are so precise, so precise. If 587 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: you're a body shop and you put too much paint 588 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: on the bumper. You ever look at new car bumpers, 589 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: how they've got those sensors in them, those little round 590 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: those are sensors for for the for the PCW. For example, 591 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: if you're a body shop and you paint that bumper 592 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: and you use too much paint, like a millimeter too much, 593 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: you will you will skew the system and throw it 594 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: off calibration. So if you think about it, how hard 595 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: did they hit the curb? How much? How much off 596 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: is the alignment that you can't see that you're correcting 597 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: by steering wheel because attached to your steering wheel or 598 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: steering mechanism, like on any new car, is a steering 599 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: angle sensor and it's looking at you know, perfectly horizontal 600 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: zero one degree, two degree, three degree, four degree, five 601 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: degree off horizon and so on, back and forth. Right, So, 602 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: if it's expecting straight ahead, if it was used too 603 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: straight ahead being zero, and it's half a degree that 604 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: your eye can't see, you're done. So you get into 605 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: a curb impact with any modern vehicle, I mean any vehicle, 606 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: but especially on a modern vehicle. All right, it's wheel alignment, 607 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: it's setting all the necessary angles, and then it's doing 608 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: an a DOS calibration if needed, to correct and reset 609 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: the systems. And that's it. And you can't go by 610 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: eye anymore. We're way past eye, all right, you know 611 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: we're way past I. So you know that's that's the 612 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: next step, all right? 613 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: Now? 614 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: Will will that? Will that UGO matter? Or will will that, 615 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: if corrected remove after a number of driving cycles. 616 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: No, it'll it'll reset. It'll reset immediately. It's either it's 617 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: either yes or no. Right right now, right now, that vehicle, 618 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: the ADAS system is disabled. It will not it will 619 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: not work because it can't see here. Try this, think 620 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: of it. Think of it like this, Tim, All right, 621 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: if I asked you to close your eyes and walk 622 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: down the hallway of your house or apartment, you could 623 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: do that right right, with your eyes closed. Go find 624 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,479 Speaker 1: go into a house you've never been in, close your 625 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: eyes and try walking down the hall How will you see? 626 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: How will you not bump into things? You're asking your 627 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: car to drive down a road it's never been on, 628 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: and it can't see any more. It can no longer 629 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: trust its calibrations because it thinks the wheel is straight, 630 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: but it's really off by half a degree, and it 631 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: keeps veering to the right or the left. That's the 632 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: way ados works. So now you've got to reset it. 633 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: You've got to tell it where everything's supposed to go 634 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: and how it's supposed to work. Do that. Call me back. 635 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm up against the clock, Tim, I got to run, 636 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: all right, A pleasure, sir, I'm running. Ay in the car. Doctor, 637 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: we're back right after this. Welcome back, you know, let 638 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: me take you in the shop. Courtesy of AutoZone and 639 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: autozonepro dot com. Because you know it's funny, right, we're 640 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: talking about history and how time changes and evolves and 641 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: marches on. It's hard for me to think of a 642 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and four board van as old, but it is. 643 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: It's twenty years old. And we had one this week 644 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: where we had to do front breaks, pads, Roders, calipers, 645 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: and AutoZone had it. Of course they had it. But 646 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: I really appreciated the autozonepro dot com website because I 647 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: was able to look it up. They didn't have it locally. 648 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: They didn't stock break parts locally for this van, and 649 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: I was able to order them, you know, and they 650 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: showed up next day because it had to come from 651 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: a different warehouse and you could see it's in this 652 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: warehouse not that warehouse and stuff. But I started thinking 653 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: to myself, holy cow, you know, it's twenty years and 654 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: I guess parts are starting to be pulled back to 655 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: other warehouses and the demand is different. And you know, 656 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: it's funny because I talked to somebody else another part 657 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: of the country and they looked it up and they 658 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: can get parts locally, So I guess this. Things change 659 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: and evolve. Now that's autoszon though they're always changing and 660 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: evolving to the better. But AutoZone pro dot Com did 661 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: it again and we were able to get parts for 662 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: that twenty year old Ford van Hey. It's been an 663 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: absolute pleasure. I've enjoyed being here with you this hour, 664 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: and remember we're just passing through history, being part of 665 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: it until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 666 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: See h