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Speaker 1: So case, these motherfuckers don't know who we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Steve Stout and Total track Masters make

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Speaker 1: some how Stout, I don't want to start with you.

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Speaker 1: You they say the origins of your career started with

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Speaker 1: Kidding Play. Is that correct? Um? Nay nay one two Okay.

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Speaker 1: this is free case. I still don't know what that is.

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Speaker 1: What is is? You had a video on the internet

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Speaker 1: Who the fund is? Friends of Tom Brady? Only God,

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Speaker 1: the truth. Talk that ship. You can you can verified,

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00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: you can verified, you've got the computer. The guys here

425
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 1: was nowhere to go right now in twenty years later,

426
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: you think now's would be this businessman that has turned

427
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: out to be. He asked me that the question, like,

428
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm proud of him, bro, Like I'm seriously he's out

429
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: there looking good with Nicki Minaj out there looking good game. Yeah, yeah,

430
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: I was. He's special, he's a special doing. But he

431
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: got it on lift, he got it on everything. He's

432
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 1: first of all, his manager Anthony sala Is like, uh,

433
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: you know specially he's talented. I mean, these guys are

434
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: all cut from the same cloth, like very resourceful, trying

435
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: to figure it out. And Nas is one of the

436
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: most trustworthy people you would ever mean, he he could

437
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: read you and if he he funks with you and

438
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: he trusts you. I never had a management contract never,

439
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: I never, ever, ever ever had to even think about

440
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: getting paid from him. I'd be I'd have four hunt

441
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: dollars in cash and he wouldn't even know it or

442
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: caring like he's not like that. He doesn't move or

443
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: for money, but he likes nice things or whatever, but

444
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: money don't move him. So it was never about if

445
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: he trusts me, he functions you. That's what it is.

446
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: So Anthony, you know, um, I just kept moving it

447
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: forward and got him involved in in in technology. I

448
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: introduced NASA. He's got Ben Horowitz, who's the you know,

449
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: leading venture capitalists who happens to love rhymes and him

450
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: and nas UP. I put them together and then like Anthony,

451
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: outside of that relationship started creating other relationships in Silicon

452
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: Valley and Nae shows up, he shows up on time.

453
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: That what made you fall back on management? Like like

454
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: like that was a lot of money, like just in

455
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: that business. Correct I am? I am? I am? I

456
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: saying they're crazy. Motherfucker's like you yeah, I'm you know,

457
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: I think I went from managing artists and I wanted

458
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: seed to manage companies. It was just like I still

459
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: feel like I'm managing just managing corporations rather than managing

460
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: individual artists. Um, but I love artists, and I love

461
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: special artists, the guys that are really talented that that

462
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: what they do can't be replicated. Um, and I have

463
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: a lot of deep respect for it. In my job

464
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: as a businessman is to make sure that people leave

465
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: them to funk a loan so they could just do

466
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: they go to do and create. Leave them alone and

467
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: give them the money and the resources and the environment

468
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: to be great. Yeah. Now, who who was the easiest

469
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 1: artist to ever produce for? Actually? You were, you were

470
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah. I walked in the studio, I said,

471
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: I got the track. He said, everybody get out the room.

472
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: I played up and we went to work. Easy. But um,

473
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: it's between Jay and I both very easy to work.

474
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: Easy to work now, mean that that was very political? Correct?

475
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: No lying on dream? That's right. He's the easiest artist.

476
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: He's the easiest artist. He always has his ship prepared.

477
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: Now let me get you another one. What what was

478
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: an artist that you you was disappointed in? Like you

479
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: went to work with them and they work ethic, wasn't

480
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: dead or they fell asleep for the truth. Don't say nature,

481
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: don't say nature, don't say name. He would show up

482
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: drink man, you're post some shots. Good. You gotta come on. Honestly,

483
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not disappointed in anybody. Give me,

484
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: the priest said Whitney Houston disappointed him. Goddamn it, come on,

485
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: you gotta give me something, he said. Whitney Houston could

486
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: not hit the notes that he wrote for. He didn't

487
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: say she was rack in the studio. He just said

488
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: he said that right, He said that right, and there

489
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: you'll see you're sitting that right now long he said that,

490
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: we're just keeping it. Yeah. Fox was tough to work

491
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: with now now yeah, yeah, like why yeah, Like she

492
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: was just young at the time. She was signs of

493
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: y'all as well. That's all. That's another good story. That

494
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: was depth. She was young, Okay, So I think the

495
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: start I'm coming at her really fast. Was hard to

496
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: get it in the studio and really and really work.

497
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: But when she arrived at the studio, she got busy.

498
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: He was just getting it there on time. And seventeen.

499
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: She used to come with the book back coming fell Foxy,

500
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: what discover first? Describe what hold on? Don't know that

501
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: we just grew Honestly, I watched watched the girl up

502
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: from yeah fo, you always we feel like a queen's nigger,

503
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: like so I always just claimed you in my mind

504
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: like us from queens, you know, and my mom drinking that.

505
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: What are you like? It's kind of like it's a tradition. Okay. Now,

506
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all know about drink chats, but

507
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: drink chaps is I've seen. There was not a platform

508
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: that when people get ten years or people get twenty

509
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: years or fifteen years in this game, people want to

510
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: write them off. People want to say that these guys

511
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: ain't doing it no more. Because whatever he had drink

512
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: chats you'd like to salute of people, like to give

513
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: them their flowers while they can smell them, give them

514
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: their thoughts while they can tell them they drink or

515
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: they can drink them, and they and their thoughts when

516
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: they can think them. You understand what I'm saying. So

517
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: he had drink chats were salute when you Steve stopped

518
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: for everything you did in this this he has to

519
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: talk did this business and we know from y'alls expect y'all,

520
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: So now about bit what's it does actually work? Horrible?

521
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: Now you worked a big before, don't Yeah, what joint

522
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: you work with Big. Let's see there's a discrepancy. By

523
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: the way. We're gonna get to that in a second.

524
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: Let's we did uh Juicy Juicy, the original Juicy, Yes,

525
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: but no, I do not. I was talking about talking

526
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: no worry about me j We did the One More Chance.

527
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: YEA had a discrepancy, saying that a good friend of

528
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: Oz Michoe conditioned to with No, we didn't say that.

529
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: There was a conversation. There was a conversation, Yeah, because

530
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: I hop about I would assume that's the only time

531
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: we would have talked about Juicy. No, he said one

532
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: More Chance Chance. No, I know what discripancy he's talking about.

533
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: You were talking about with Little CS was on here,

534
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: and the Little C says, um, Now I was supposed

535
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: to be on BIG's album? Is that it? And uh?

536
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: We said that now I was supposed to be on

537
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: One More Chance, but he wasn't he supposed to be

538
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: don't give me the loop. I don't know which record

539
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: he was going on, Okay, but when y'all started talking

540
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: about One More Chance being one of the greatest records

541
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: in hip hop, he didn't give track nassas to cel.

542
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: We got cospect. I'm gonna tell y'all something. I'm gonna

543
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: tell you something. I was so honored to work with y'all,

544
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: like because it was y'all and Clark KNT. I gotta

545
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: give Clark can't too. Like I just used were right rhymes.

546
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I didn't know how to count bars. I

547
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: didn't know how to. I would write rhymes just right,

548
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: hook separate. I wouldn't know how to put them ships together.

549
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: And I remember going to Beisville. I remember you, just

550
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: you and Polk and just pulling me to the side

551
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: and be like you got the talent. It's just fucking everywhere,

552
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: and you would and I just appreciate that. I appreciate

553
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, the uncle. And I gotta say, like I

554
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: felt like an uncle, like when I was a bears

555
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Like you you knew this is what it was. We

556
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: was finishing in the r E album. I was all

557
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: over the place. I went to Miami and went and

558
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: it was your idea. He was like, yo, Nori, I

559
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: can't get you to focus in New York. You're gonna

560
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: come to Bearsville. They lied to me. They definitely didn't

561
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: tell me what Bearsfield was. It's like, yeah, I just

562
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: want to go up there. Motherfucker. Everything closed at five o'clock.

563
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: If you don't got your phillies, you're fucked up. You

564
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: don't got your cigarettes, you don't got no Lika, You

565
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: fucked up. You remember Philly being up there? Yes, I was.

566
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: I remember I did two records from fifty. That was RB.

567
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: You don't remember that was yes, because I did the

568
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: two records of fifty, and I asked you, I felt

569
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: like I'll be and always about the firm. You feel

570
00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: like I didn't get at Then he got carried, you know,

571
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there going like I'm putting everybody on.

572
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm sitting at that, I'm taking the responsibility and I'm

573
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: putting everything on. I got fifty out of his contract.

574
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: He was with jam mass Jay. I got him out

575
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: the contract, got him in, took shot money from the hood,

576
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: brought shot money into him. Then he goes Snorri Glora

577
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: was in between. The ship wasn't right. The ship wasn't right.

578
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: He talented, your ship ain't right. Come up to Bensville

579
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: and he had and these and the studs was up

580
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: here and was showing him poke and it was the

581
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: producers under them and the orches straight and we had

582
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: three weews going to fatal fatal, that's right. And he

583
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: was up there and we were getting busy making That's

584
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: where the power of the dollar was made. That's what

585
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: we were doing this solo and I just want to

586
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: records on that. Um, I'm gonna forget the name of

587
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: them ships. But yeah, man, I came around and I

588
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: felt the energy, and that's where it was where for

589
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: all little problem has started was because I think I

590
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: called and I said, uh, fifties album. I was wanted

591
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: to get paid or something. He was like, I ain't

592
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: paying you for no fifty records. I sear to god,

593
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: I think y'all was in beef with fifty at this time.

594
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: And then it just all trickled down. But it's all up.

595
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: We are here to day and we are having fun

596
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: and we're gonna drink some of your special white wine.

597
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Got them We don't gotta call open by opening up.

598
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: That's what I was like. You got a specific tanky jacket,

599
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: don't kind jacket that it's bottery? Man, My goosey jacket

600
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 1: on too. He came a croush on my jackets. I'm hey,

601
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: this is his cases are, little man, Let let me

602
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: tell you something, Stout. You gotta teach a class or

603
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: rap class. We don't call it rap class where you

604
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: sit down and you teach niggas. Niggers don't know cohe

605
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: but they don't know what's the difference between. Did he

606
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: just say fifty five? He said, what are you saying?

607
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: He said, this is a fifty five? Like, nobody don't

608
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: know that. You gotta floor fifty two in the This

609
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. It should be mad funny.

610
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: You got me Jada kiss and like a Jim Jones

611
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: and you're sitting us down and you're teaching us rap class.

612
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: It's called rap class. And you said, this is how

613
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: you drink up Maryland. Most people don't know you drink

614
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: a red wine with a steak. People don't know that.

615
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: They just drink what the don't drink and drink whatever.

616
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: You can't down those drink good goes very with a blunt.

617
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: Can't you open it up, Stap please? I'm want you

618
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: to do that. So um okay, now, why isn't a

619
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: zy Why didn't a zy like be just this big y'all?

620
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: I just had this conversation with Sons about a Zy

621
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: easy honestly. Oh, first of all, if he was an actor,

622
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: he'd be a fucking superstar. Because you even watch him

623
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: in the in the in the end, see him in

624
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: belly no no, no, no no. You even watch him

625
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: in the interlude when um the Biggie video when the

626
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: beginning with his bigger they rolling, they're playing for money

627
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: and ship, they playing with monopoly money. You know, look

628
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: at Eisy and that thing he's acting. He's fucking and

629
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: he worked really hard and he was all about the

630
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 1: business people forget. Even after the rhyme on Life's a Bitch,

631
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: he delivered the rhyme again though on more money, more

632
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: murder delivered. People thought his pens just fell off after

633
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: that More money, more Murder. His rymes is also hot.

634
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: He wanted to always make sugar Hill. He just wanted to.

635
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: He wanted to make record commercial records. He wanted to

636
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: make that type of ship. And I think he had

637
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: he didn't have a great management around him, and um,

638
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: he just wasn't. He didn't have enough talent for the

639
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: for what was coming out at that time. It was

640
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: it was vicious. I think he had what are you

641
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: wanting no. He didn't have to tell no. He had

642
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: to work ethic and he had to uh. He he

643
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: was a polished person, show up, deliver, He could act,

644
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: He'll play it all out. He was that type of guy.

645
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: But if when he had to write the rhymes and

646
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: do it over and over, he didn't give a shit

647
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: about that. He showed up with Nazles on the record,

648
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: but outside of that, he wouldn't write. He wouldn't do it.

649
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: Listen to his music. I never I felt like, yeah, no,

650
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: that's your memory. Even you know, certain things age bad,

651
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: like you listen to it, you think it's open when

652
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: you go back, you listen to it, like I can't

653
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: believe I like this ship. Damn ive never done. Like

654
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: you fall in up and said like even if you're

655
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: gonna look at Star Wars right now, you see the

656
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: strings like these certain things just don't age well. And

657
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: you just gotta be honest about that. As these rhymes

658
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: at an age well outside of more money and life's

659
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: of bitch, that's all. And so you never managed him?

660
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: Why why was that? Why didn't you like he just

661
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: said it? Why did not manage to know? Because managing

662
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 1: this and all that ship wasn't really what I wanted

663
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: to do. My wife, I didn't really want to do.

664
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: That wasn't the career I wanted to build myself on

665
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: being a manager of artists. Um, I just felt I

666
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: just wanted to keep doing more shipped, more ship and

667
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: trying ship. And my first big break came. Um the

668
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: first producer managed just kid he was. He was a

669
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: Jehovah witness. This is really funny. Listen to this gives

670
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: Jovah witness And back then, getting equipment was so hard

671
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: to get as a producer. If you had equipment, you

672
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: could basically ring your equipment out for credit. You can

673
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: basically say I produced half the record if I just

674
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: if you use my equipment. That's how scarce equipment was.

675
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: And Herbie loved Bug was jerking everybody up. He was

676
00:39:53,400 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: a thief, thief. So that kid, this kid, I don't

677
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: beat this kid that way. Has introduced me to and

678
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: the guy his name is Steve Kenton. You'll never hear

679
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: his name again, probably, but Steve Kidd, he's a Jehovah witness.

680
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: He's producing records for Salt and Pepper and he's not

681
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: taking credit, but he's getting five Every guy these guys

682
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: a lot. So anyhow, the kid does all this ship.

683
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: So I meet him, I'm like, and it's some of

684
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: the same ship I met you to him. I meet

685
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: the kid and I'm like, Yo, man, you don't have

686
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: to even funk with these guys. I'll buy you the equipment.

687
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: I was doing real estate at the time. I brought

688
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: the kid. I went to sand As she brought the

689
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, all the rolling ship and it was like

690
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: a Christmas list he gave me and he really wanted

691
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: he made up extra ship. I brought it from him

692
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: and we started producing. And the first thing we did

693
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: was the theme song for the Martin Launch show The Martin.

694
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: We took that from the death comedy gym Let's Kicking

695
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: bread Boo. The Martin launched the theme song I'd been

696
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: Martin Martin us to sleep Martin. Not when I was

697
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: unhurs right, Yeah, when I was the road he dr

698
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: was the opening that get Then I knew Mortan Lawrence

699
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: like the guy that was just like the like the

700
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: he was just the regular dude like we were in

701
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: And when he blew up and got a show and

702
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: he's like stopping, he hurled me out. I said, I

703
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: can make the theme music for you, but I got

704
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: the kids, Steve Kid to do it. He made that

705
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: and he got the publish you know, for that. He's

706
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: still eating and he's a fool. Jehovah Witness. I've never

707
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: heard from him, but back then he was afraid the

708
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: Jehovah Witness thing. I'm not gonna bring that into because

709
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: he was afraid to take credit from music because it

710
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: was against his religion. Okay, now, earlier you just said, um,

711
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: you described the video with the jade, I think that

712
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: was a jay Z video. We said it was a

713
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: jay Z video big and now what's that at the

714
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: beginning of NAS and the whole dispute because of that,

715
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: because they was sad. It was that presidents, I believe. Yeah,

716
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: now the rumor is that it was Jay wanted NAS

717
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: to come to the video. I don't know. Jns do

718
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: each other before I do either of them, So I

719
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: don't know what the beginning of that beef was, um,

720
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: but it was definitely just in New York City. It

721
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: was just like who's the best rapper? You know, and like, um,

722
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: that's the beginning of that beef for us. I mean,

723
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: I guess it was just normal young any way, you

724
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: gotta remember that. Think it's a twenty five years old.

725
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: He's a twenty five years old with millions of dollars

726
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: and not really millions of dollars and really twenty five

727
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: years old, and like so that's the perfect concoction for

728
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: stupid ship a lot of money in young. Yeah, so

729
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: the Manto ship led to a bunch of dumb ship

730
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: which led to a bunch of beefs. But it wasn't

731
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: any None of it was really real. And except those

732
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: guys have the greatest respect for one another, I mean

733
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: the greatest. That's one of the things that did age well,

734
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: like you just said you just mentioned earlier, like a

735
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: lot of things don't age well. That's something, but age perfectly,

736
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: like I look at that. But back then, let's subscribe

737
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: back then, like back then, taking over comes out? Are

738
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: you worried? You're a guy who's been both of you

739
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: guys have been an Oscar at least since his second album.

740
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: I need tone keep it really take over comes out.

741
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: You gotta put yourself right in this specific situation. Where

742
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: were you the time? Say, at the time. The whole

743
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: thing and age out a co sign the story. There's

744
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: a different ether out there, like before Ethan McKay. Either

745
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: there was another another record, another version, there was another version.

746
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: I kind of heard about this. I heard that I

747
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: was I was in the studio one day. I was like, holy,

748
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: it was a little worse. Like, no, it wasn't. I

749
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: don't want different record, not member, Okay, book ahead. I

750
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: was worried after NAS was done. Richard, who tell me

751
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: when we're not clean? Bro, we got you? Okay, you

752
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: thought NAS was done from take Over? Really it was

753
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: only one shot at NAS if you think about it.

754
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: He just said, tell Nives you know I've seen I've

755
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: seen him performance. That's no. That was no, no, no, no.

756
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: He put the third verst on that thing on takeover. Yes,

757
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: or you think it's super ugly. Okay. He first said

758
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: the first thing when he said he did that summer,

759
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: tell Nis he didn't want to with hold right and

760
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: did fret he get the freestyle? He said he went

761
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: through beans first left freestyle, that you would use that

762
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: freestyle too, right? I think that was I think so,

763
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't remember he did not did

764
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: Jay does take over? I think Style has wanted to say, correct,

765
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: so you said that I was wearing. Yeah, definitely. I've

766
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: seen him before on the record and he gets to

767
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: the part of um when he goes who's the best

768
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: of Me? See Biggie jay Z and then he goes

769
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: Na NA and then Takeover comes on and I watched

770
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: the crowd. I was like, this ship is a problem.

771
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was nervous for NAS. I was nervous

772
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: for NAS and how about you? Stole was You're nervous.

773
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: Nervous is an understanding? I was Jay and j Jay

774
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: and I became friends. Um we became really friendly around

775
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: that time before that, and um, Jay is a very

776
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: secretive dude, and he had never told me that he

777
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: was doing that any of that kind of shape because

778
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: I kind of felt betrayed. I honestly felt like it

779
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: was all a ploy, just to like there wasn't really

780
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: a friendship. Actually that's why I felt like, you felt

781
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: like you and jay Z like I done. It was

782
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: a friends with that. I'm like, this ain't no real friendship.

783
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna do shoot on this guy, You're not gonna

784
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: tell me. And I got the hamnistein ballroom and he

785
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: performed it and I'm in the raft us the Hamisteine

786
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: ball room was like a fitter and ship and it

787
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: has like those like opera fucking balcony. And I thought

788
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: the ship was going to snap and break. That's how

789
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: good crazy it was, right, yeah. And that was young

790
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: Kanye West on the beat, right and um, I totally

791
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: forgot Kanye Kanye produced to take Over Homes. Yeah and

792
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: even got that. Yeah, So that was young Kanye unit beat.

793
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: And I was nervous. I thought Naz his career was over,

794
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: and and and and Nas was really in no position

795
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: to the way he was carrying himself the way he was.

796
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: He wasn't taking it as seriously he was. He was

797
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: a lot of ship. He was dealing with man, his

798
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: baby mom ship and just a lot of ship. Man.

799
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: You know. Nas takes scar of a lot of people,

800
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: you know. And then he didn't. And actually, back then,

801
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: because it wasn't people thought that it was over. It

802
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: was the His response was kind of slow, right. I

803
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: think it was like three months Steve stop, okay, okay,

804
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: So what happened. I'm gonna take somebod us one. We

805
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: made that. He's drinking that coach. So what happened was

806
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: take your time to that, Okay, stop. Let's shot me

807
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: strickt whin. Let me know if I got the class,

808
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: let me know if I got a little bit like

809
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: that perfect And then like dumber did more to what

810
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: that's like? Hep be like grand class, know you can

811
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: more me two shows right now, look ahead. So all

812
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: the takeovers out, Na, you did this story. Yeah, everybody's

813
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: I trying to make sure everybody's into it. Everybody's into it.

814
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: And they told us to have a light crowd usually

815
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: have more people. We told how to crap and you

816
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: say you have something important to say. We were gonna

817
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: about it one else we can so anyhow, okay day.

818
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: So so the whole ships like a fucking mess. I

819
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: don't know that part of it. But I had that beat.

820
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: That was the first beat that I had that I

821
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: gave no us the beat for either. I took the beat.

822
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: I gave it to Nasa on the album first, not

823
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: for ether, just to make a record. I forgot what

824
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: this ship reminded me of. It reminded me of something,

825
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, this ship right here and Nas

826
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: he didn't like the ship. So him and I we

827
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: we we went through a really tough time. That was

828
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: a really that was the lowest point of our relationship

829
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: during that period of time. Beaton and I we we

830
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: we weren't speaking. I was executive producing that album. And

831
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: you're saying in between after takeover, takeover happens to either

832
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking, Yeah, I'm not speaking to No, we're not.

833
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: We're working together. But like you know, like a bad

834
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: man distance, you come, we come home. And and when

835
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: you say, it's the first thing you gave him, literally

836
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: like you that you say, I think this when I

837
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: when I when I when I make music, when I

838
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: work with artists, I get involved in every aspect of

839
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: how you inju versus how the fucking course, ship the beats,

840
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: the whole program. So you're like, damn your production. I

841
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: just never took it. A producer, I get what I do.

842
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: He gets credit for what he does. Like you know,

843
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: I just had a point of view and m I

844
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: gave it to him, and he he didn't funk with it.

845
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: And I did speak to him for months and he

846
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: worked on the album and he made that album. I

847
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: forgot the name of the album. God Son, No, No,

848
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: I think that's that's not hypoths Still, I was just

849
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: saying the woman with the bird is still still still believe.

850
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: So we're not working on this ship together. And like

851
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: he calls me in the album is about to go

852
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: to mastering, and I go to the studio and he

853
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: plays me ether it's like two in the morning and

854
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: he uses that beat. M hm. Now we weren't even speaking.

855
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: So the fact that he even called me to the

856
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 1: studio to night before mastering it was because he wanted

857
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: me to hear, like, did I go too far? As

858
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: this is funked up? And I get there two in

859
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: the morning and Jungle is on some fox stout you know,

860
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: funk that stop fuck yo, not at all, and I'm

861
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: listening to this ship and I'm like, I take off, Michael,

862
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: We're staying here all night. We gotta fix this. This

863
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: is a mess. This is a mess. If this ship

864
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: comes out, your career is over. And he made the record,

865
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: but there was a version. There was a different version

866
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: of it with the same beat that was terrible. Thank

867
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: you for hitting the A C. But then it was

868
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: a beat. It was terrible. It was horrible, and like

869
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: and and and like and you know it was it

870
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: was the proper response for what he was in. I mean,

871
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: that's a heavyweight back. By the way, when you will

872
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: see Nas and Jay together, it's like looking at Ali

873
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: and Fraser, it's like two guys like we were pushing

874
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: each other in the brother fucking face as hard as

875
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: we can and we were respecting how much we could

876
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: take the punches to the face. That's what they did.

877
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: You never see no ship like this. This wasn't no

878
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: l O ko j battle and Kumo D after the

879
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: Kumo D was already on the way out and this

880
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: this is this is actually this is happening at the

881
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: right time and time and like and somebody's gonna lose

882
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: and somebody's gonna win, and that's just gonna happen. And

883
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: the fact that they did that and nobody got shot

884
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: and nobody got stat that's what we should be fucking

885
00:51:54,120 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: bigg en up right now because you know what they

886
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: want too. I think both of them, I think that

887
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: was both of their best time or leadership because they

888
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: were actually saying that to their crews, like yo, this

889
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: is like this is on the record, like they were

890
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: actually saying that, Like you know, I remember Jay had

891
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: to the freestyle on what the everybody on ninety seven

892
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: and he went up there and be rhymes with I

893
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: think when that's when he first got his fillies boys,

894
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: and Nas had called me and was like, Yo, we're

895
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: gonna do the same thing. We're gonna go up there

896
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: and do it. And from the beginning when Nas called me,

897
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: I said, do we need better money? He said, hell up,

898
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: y'all said, hold on, it's not that type of party.

899
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: We're just gonna go on round against them. And I

900
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: knew that, and that was that was a boss move

901
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: as a leader, was to let people know like, look,

902
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: look we're gonna dispute them. We're gonna do whatever we

903
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: gotta do. But this, you know, we're gonna keep it,

904
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: keep it hip hop. And I enjoyed that. I enjoyed

905
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: that part of hip hop. I still enjoyed it. So

906
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: now in between that part you guys are worried, now

907
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: eat the only is put together the way you wanted

908
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: it drops. How proud of you of that moment that

909
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: when the whole world started down them, he dropped that

910
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: one and it was ether was strong enough that even

911
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: when Hove responded, he didn't happen to respond. That's how

912
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: strong that one record was. A lot of people don't

913
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: know what you don't say that like it's two to one.

914
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: So when you compare Hold and Nas Battle, it's like

915
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: Hold actually has two Nas had two records too. You

916
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: know the free sty we talked about, you wet when

917
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: that was like that. That was how super Ugly came

918
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: off super Ugly. The reason why I think super Ugly

919
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: isn't a classic is because you actually got a person

920
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: that you've never seen emotional, be a little emotional. That's

921
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: why I think people didn't receive Ether was one of

922
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: those records. Man, you know what I'm saying, Soul, We

923
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When it was one of those records.

924
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: Ship like that stuff to happen and get you off

925
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: from your things when you watch and hit you in

926
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: the face and he throws you off in your knew

927
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: who played Silvery started changing? You just started doing New State.

928
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: But the most important part of what this is about

929
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: in this topic, we can go inside of Nas et

930
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: Jay set in the third the fact that those guys

931
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: it was they put their money on the line. You

932
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: see back then, if you get when you lost what

933
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: you really was betting with your career, you were betting

934
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: a million dollars. You were betting your entire earning potential,

935
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: like Alvando cannabis. Cannabis was gone, yeah, gone, yea. The

936
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 1: loser is done. Yeah, this is scary. The loser is done.

937
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: And so when they did that, that's what they were

938
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: playing for. And the fact that they never um turned

939
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: it into anything else, and they both came out smelling

940
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: like roses instead of ship better people. And that's and

941
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: he grew after that together. They actually, you gotta say,

942
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 1: by the way, when you anytime I'm around over them together,

943
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: it's like I don't even listen to anything. All I

944
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: do is shut the funk up and nothing that is talk,

945
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: and and and and and and feel so fortunate that

946
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm around to the greatest writers that ever walked the

947
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: face of this earth. That's how I feel. Now. Intricate

948
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: was you and like the squashing of that, like now

949
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: you got business with ball. They both just went out

950
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: of each other horribly, and then they've they've both grown in.

951
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: You know what, I wasn't involved. Would have you know?

952
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: I was in squash that was involved, because I don't

953
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: mean he's going to squash, but but not that one,

954
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: because I was about like old was always shotting you

955
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: out to like kind of like like like elbow nas

956
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: a little bit like stop. I mean, man, like I'm

957
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: working with your your your boss, like I'm working with

958
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: your top guy. Like you know what I'm saying, Like

959
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: that's talking about me and Dami never got along? Are

960
00:55:54,280 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: we gonna get into that too? I don't like got good?

961
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: I got so good. I didn't know where you wanted

962
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: to go in there? I why do you a dame?

963
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: Never go? But I just said that's what I thought

964
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: he didn't because because if Jay was shoting you out,

965
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: I think because of that, I think that you know,

966
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: he was the smart guy, right, and he was the

967
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: smart guy at that time in my opinion. And this

968
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: is I can't speak for Dame, but I think that's

969
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: I think we had him on drink coach, we had

970
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't know we had him on drink chance play.

971
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: I think he always says that like it was leor

972
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 1: and I believe it's your name came up stebably didn't

973
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: sing me. I don't say. I don't think he did. Okay,

974
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: we see, Okay, maybe he said that to me. Um

975
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: he was a smart guy. Time in Damon. I spoke

976
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: to Damon three weeks ago and I told him, I said, Damon,

977
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: I finally now understood. Wait wait, you spoke to him

978
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: three weeks ago. Recently, you're saying three weeks ago from

979
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: what today? And I wanted to tell him, Man, I

980
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 1: had to tell you that I really do understand everything

981
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: you stood for and everything you fought for him, like

982
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: and if you look at it again, young and money,

983
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: that concoction. Right. Damon knew artists should be independent. Damon

984
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: knew artists should own their rights. Damon knew he was

985
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: fighting for all of that stuff. Damon actually knew how

986
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: international art, the art. He knew everything. He knew everything,

987
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: and he knew what to fight for it. The problem

988
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: was he knew it, but the way he handled it.

989
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: He could articulated, but the way he handled it to

990
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: make it a business was just disgusting, right, but he wasn't.

991
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: He his theory was correct, the way he handled it

992
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: applied it was wrong. I get it. And I told

993
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: him that, and he's like, it took you long enough,

994
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,479
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you fucking can't even just say things,

995
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean that's nament and that's cool

996
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: and I respect and I respect Wait wait, wait, talk

997
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: about he said, that's what he said, that dude, I

998
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: was you know, for me, I was just like the

999
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: one thing I've always prided myself on. There's a lot

1000
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: of things I am. I'm fucking smart. I knew the ship.

1001
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: I know the ship cold, I know the business called,

1002
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: I know the artists, the music. This. I could see

1003
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: this ship before it happens, and like I knew what

1004
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: he was trying to do, and where me and Jay

1005
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: became friends was almost like what I would say to

1006
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: him or the way I would package the information. It

1007
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: felt like we were going forward. It didn't feel like

1008
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: all these niggas, these niggas, It didn't feel belligerent. We

1009
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: were actually coming up with ideas and thoughts that was

1010
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: gonna move forward, not just shoot on people to get there. Right,

1011
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: there's the way to move forward. You can shoot on

1012
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: people to move forward, or you could do it in

1013
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: a charismatic way. And I felt like the way I

1014
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: was doing it, well, maybe the way I was doing

1015
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: it it was more charismatic, much more advanced as far

1016
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: as moving forward. Tune, you ever produced the record for

1017
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: an artist where artists just another artist and you had

1018
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: to feel awkward about that. Yeah, let's talking about it.

1019
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean LLL and Cannabis was really wait wait you

1020
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: could do that record? Yeah, I mean we got back

1021
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: at LLL Cannabis at Yo. I need some funning water

1022
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: yea if business war we got we got waters all

1023
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: the way back to the studio. Cannabis has has the verse.

1024
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: It was a dope verse when you would dose cannabis.

1025
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: You too. Yeah you wait here, you both room right here.

1026
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: It's like you you will both fighters out to the wing.

1027
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: You said, even with the winner was just on the

1028
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: fourth three to one joint when Cannabis said and then

1029
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: l L went into to spit after he heard Cannabis

1030
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: and he changed and he changed his room. I felt

1031
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: a little weird about that because L wanted to change

1032
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: because like, you're going at a guy who's not even here.

1033
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: It's fairless we had on here. Al said, Um, he

1034
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: thought Cannabis really went out him on that record. He said,

1035
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: I was looking for b for that. You know what.

1036
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: I looked at the LF you. I thought that guy

1037
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: and I love that guy. That guy is my favorite

1038
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: rapp of all time. Um, when I grew up, I've

1039
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: seen that guy at black parties. I've seen battle guys

1040
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: and balls La grew up as a battle rapping up

1041
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: and um, he's just so fucking competitive that he never

1042
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: he I mean he had no I mean we we

1043
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: we we do the fucking record Who Shot You? And

1044
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: he ships so fox female rappers too. I don't give

1045
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: him about why to seventeen you're about never do that?

1046
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: Why don't do that? But he just kidd trop him

1047
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: side l dope but a wrap up all time. I

1048
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: love all that ship the A two B to see

1049
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: the d I think it star his wife imes into

1050
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: the office, the whole shape, the you don't remember that

1051
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: you remember it was like the intro for one of

1052
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: his albums. Oh yeah, yeah, I was walcome with a panther.

1053
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't welcome with the panther. Okay, I love but

1054
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: he'd just be so competitive niggas for no reason. And

1055
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,959
Speaker 1: maybe cannabis. He could have pulled cannabis to the side.

1056
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: He gave him some o J that he could have

1057
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: everybody understanding here, that's something artist ship though, Like as

1058
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: a d J, A are you competitive? But other DJs

1059
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: when you go of course, that's the same thing. Okay,

1060
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: So so I describe that for me as a DJ,

1061
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: like what a DJ comes on first, and then I

1062
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: mean it just depends. Yeah, it depends on the platform.

1063
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: If it's a club DJ, it's a battle DJ, whatever

1064
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: it is. But yeah, you don't you don't want, certainly

1065
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: want what he went on? He played, and then you

1066
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: get mad the records he played. If he's your opener

1067
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: and he played some record, he's like, what then is

1068
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: he doing? But you can't play the hot record in

1069
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: the times. You gotta relax, You gotta relax. Relax. Now

1070
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: to him, what's the best ever hip hop hop? Brother?

1071
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: Nineties hip hop? Man, you're gonna go for the whole

1072
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: ship shifted the whole day. I'll go from you go

1073
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: from iomagic on because I feel like the mid nineties

1074
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: to like nineties seven was like, how the best decade? No? No,

1075
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: what you know? He said? Which is the best era?

1076
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: He said? I don't think. I don't think it was

1077
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: ever a great decade. The whole decade did ever made it?

1078
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: There's a reason why the decade never makes it. You

1079
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: want to hear it? Yeah, yeah, as soon as ship

1080
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: gets hot, if you listen to eight is the best

1081
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: here for hip hop? By five? Just listen to too

1082
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: U D Run DMC Forget No. That was the run

1083
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: DMC album. That was that was the comeback album in

1084
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: eight actually Um Republican of Easy, m w A, n

1085
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: w A and Easy the same year and Carriss one eight.

1086
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: It's eighteen albums that came out that year. That is

1087
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. E. P. M. D much the whole, just

1088
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: the ship. But it feels like the late eighties set up.

1089
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: Now what happened was then after that happens the way

1090
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: the business was at the time, like anything else. These

1091
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: guys are all other one independent labels, col Chilling Records,

1092
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: Select Records, it's that in the third and Profile Records,

1093
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: and they blow up. So what happens after that? The

1094
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: major's I don't know who to sign. They just signed

1095
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of dudes who wrap and give them some

1096
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: bullshit story. So then all of a sudden, the truth

1097
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: gets worded down by the bullshit. So eight seven eighty eight,

1098
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: when everybody was scrambling to get on you have to

1099
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: be nicest ship, that ship works, or being rock Cam

1100
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: eight eight. Then all of a sudden, what happens is

1101
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: the money comes in and fux it up like it's bullshit,

1102
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: Like this area when you're right now, this is dope.

1103
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: Right now, all artist is here. In ten years from now,

1104
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: the five years from now, it's not gonna be like that.

1105
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: It's gonna be sucked up. The artist is gonna go

1106
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: somewhere else. That's gonna is like, what is the let?

1107
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: This is used to be the Yeah, it's used to

1108
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: be the he. That's what still, that's what happens to

1109
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: get the great ship. That's a hood. Eight eight hip

1110
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: hop is the hood. He's just doing what happened, not

1111
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: even doing it for money. Right this area is a

1112
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: perfect example. That's all the early hip hop parties in.

1113
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. And then all of a sudden,

1114
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: the money comes in, and then somebody who decides to

1115
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: put a mandarin oriental next stuff exactly right. You all

1116
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: something the artists have to move out. That's what happened

1117
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: in rap music. And every decade something happens and all

1118
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, So it was eighty eight that happens,

1119
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: and you got the early nineties that was awesome, got routine,

1120
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: got Biggie, you got Naws, you got j and then

1121
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the money comes in, and all

1122
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden, got I can shoot on a thousand

1123
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: guys right now that all of a sudden got record

1124
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: deals and opportunities, not because they were talented, because they

1125
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: were rappers and it sounded like this and everybody was

1126
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: looking for the happening. You know what I'm saying. When

1127
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: you gotta look at ear So if you look at

1128
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: eighty seven and eighty nine, let's call out an era.

1129
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: You gotta break it down in three years. I wouldn't

1130
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: bring it ten years. I had to make it three

1131
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: years because you have three years for this neighborhood to work,

1132
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the money comes in

1133
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: and the neighborhood up eighty seven and eighty nine ninety

1134
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: six and go and moves in blocks like that doesn't

1135
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: move in ten ye increments that Now. He was the

1136
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: guy like to bring rough Riders the interscope. Correct, that

1137
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: was you single handedly, but you didn't have d MX.

1138
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: Was that hard to do that because although Rough Riders

1139
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: looked at as a great company, but X was like,

1140
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm a marketing Brandon guy on the scene was the

1141
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: all I've seen the all. I'm like, I've seen that

1142
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 1: all and you had motherfucker's riding on motorcycles standing up there.

1143
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: DMX is the beginning of a lot of ship. So

1144
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: I want to and and D is amazing. D had

1145
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: the young Swiss, Swiss me and Swiss is pype like

1146
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: those guys have just talented as motherfucker, and like I have.

1147
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: Actually i've met DMX in the last five years, but

1148
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: then I never met DMX, but I was interested in

1149
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: d Law Swiss, the sound and the logo. Yeah, I

1150
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: knew that brand was the business and you knew that

1151
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,919
Speaker 1: was a marketing guy behind that. That's what you're saying.

1152
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: You knew what it was like. You knew that was

1153
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: like orchestrating, Like it wasn't just like they just filmed

1154
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: it and it was just art. Like you knew that.

1155
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: You know, anybody, you've seen those videos. It's the best

1156
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: ship in the world. It is guys riding a hip

1157
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: hop on motorcycles up the West Side Highway, standing on

1158
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: the seat with no hands. Want a hundred moles powers?

1159
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: Who does that? You know what it's hot, But it's

1160
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: also the jacket fly though you have a choice. Yeah,

1161
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep looking. So now that that was like

1162
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: that was like the year of the Black CEO, Like

1163
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: that it was a great time for the black ceo.

1164
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: They had people like Dame Dash and power that people

1165
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: like Steve Style and power. I believe even it wasn't

1166
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: y'all that. Yeah, I was up at Sonia at the time.

1167
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: Who else a market pas? I said him earlier, I'll

1168
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: say him again. I big him up. All these black

1169
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: CEOs that power. We are staying less and less black CEOs.

1170
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: You don't have a daring I don't think so. I

1171
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: mean music business, you see. Okay, put me on stole

1172
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: because you know I like this wine. Like a lot

1173
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: of my executive time. I think, Well, Coach Kine is

1174
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: doing in Atlanta and ridiculous. Coach k that is me

1175
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: goes in them. That's me go in cad of Atlanta. Um,

1176
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: you know there's some other kids. It's Coach k and

1177
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: Coach Tech remember tap Tech. All right, both all right,

1178
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: let's not get confused. But I'm talking about Coach k

1179
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: Coach k T one is Tenny Boy. One of them

1180
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: is with Tinny Boy. That's test Tie looking weird right now.

1181
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: Let's go at least gottle more boy go with it

1182
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 1: to James. Coach Tech is what to change. Coach k

1183
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: is with three top dog definitely big up top doors

1184
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: with my people's top. Then you got my man. He's

1185
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: not he's not blocked, but he might as well be

1186
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: black ghazi yes, and be black to me, he's black

1187
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: at the top. What then are we doing? Man, let's

1188
01:09:52,400 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 1: just talking about meal stuff on blocks up. Everybody went over,

1189
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: everybody went over up. Let's go question. I got, I

1190
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: got loaded. Listen, so stop running like running through the

1191
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: era of hip hop? And was there ever like? Because

1192
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: people always wanted to know this like it was like

1193
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: I said earlier, I alluded to I alluded to this.

1194
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 1: Always wanted to know this because it was like it

1195
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: was what you fighting like was it underground like management

1196
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: b for that time you and Chris? Because it just

1197
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: seemed like like I said, I said, I alluded to

1198
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: it earlier. I was like, if you were getting money

1199
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: at a certain period, you was either with Chris or

1200
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: you was whiskey like st straight up like I'm talking

1201
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: about at that one period, you know, the period I'm

1202
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: talking about. Was there ever like Brothers? Because it was

1203
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: was it five boat? I mean, how do you talk

1204
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: about this? The men passed it. It's just a tough

1205
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: conversations because it's a very sil It's easy for me

1206
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: to just say, you know, you know Chris did his staying,

1207
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 1: and you know, Chris was um. Chris was a very special,

1208
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: talented dude man. He was for me when I first

1209
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: came up, I looked up to him, and then I

1210
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: became his pet that I passed him, and it was

1211
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: I had to deal with that, He had to deal

1212
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: with that. But it never But again back to what

1213
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: I said earlier, it never changed my respect for him.

1214
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: Chris tried to manage him, tried to take him from me,

1215
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: tried to do it well, kind of crazy ship while

1216
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: I was amazing. But I always held onto the fact

1217
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: that I looked up to him as a man who

1218
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: broke through in the business and everything that he did,

1219
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: and he taught me a lot of it. So there

1220
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: was never a beef with me. Not somebody else would

1221
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: have took it as a beef. I never take it

1222
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: as a beef because I had so much respect for

1223
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: him that I let him get away with passes. You

1224
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: give people passes if you respect somebody, like if you're

1225
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: a friend with somebody, you love them, you give him passes.

1226
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: You can't hold them accountable in the same way. It's

1227
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: somebody you don't really funk with. The person you don't

1228
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 1: funk with got one shot to fuck you. Person you

1229
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: love can do it over and over again. You find

1230
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 1: a way to make it work. And that's that was

1231
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: our relationship and that's what I'm doing now. Like now

1232
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: you can. You just always have a level of respect

1233
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,799
Speaker 1: for him, and I have respect for him. Mona Scott.

1234
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: I love Mona Scott. Like everything that those guys were

1235
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: doing to me, I take it. I appreciate it. I

1236
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't be here today. So it was never really a beef.

1237
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: It could have been a beef, but there was nothing.

1238
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: There was nothing. Beautiful thing. Now you're on puff, y'all

1239
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: like cooler now, like y'all had an incident? What was it? Over?

1240
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: It was an over puff on the cross what happened?

1241
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: So it was now Yeah, so I was going back

1242
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: to the thing. Man, I told Lady Santiago, that's the

1243
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: end of the day. Okay, he's my fake cousin in

1244
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: the industry. You know my Santiago as well. Yeah, Lenia,

1245
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: we always claimed each other as fake cousins because our

1246
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: last names of Santiago. It's really weird. It's very weird

1247
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: that we always you guys are still doing that, you guys. Yeah,

1248
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: and I got him when he go for it. It's

1249
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: a fact, Steve, think you think you I gotta stop

1250
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: this immediately. Yeah, I'm taking your advice from this day

1251
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: on point where But I did cold on my fake cousin.

1252
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: It's not like we say we really cousins. Book ahead

1253
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: is a problem. So the the fucking Jay comes out

1254
01:13:54,600 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 1: to the hard Bock Life, I'm sucking pissed. Fuck? How

1255
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: to fund? Can we get this? These motherfucker's got a record?

1256
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 1: This ship is so big. Who produced a hard knock

1257
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: don't tell me. I don't know who. King hold On

1258
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: Jay first hearted the sample from forty from kick Apree

1259
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: and he heard the ship and forty five King produced it.

1260
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 1: So he heard the snippet of the loop of the

1261
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: anti record. Then forty five King produced him. So now

1262
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: just taking inside to mindus, young Steve stout, bum gonna do.

1263
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: I can't sleep. There's no where I can see this

1264
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: guy has a hip record, and what are we gonna do?

1265
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: And I went out and I found I heard hate Me?

1266
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: Now what's pretty pretty boys on the record? This is

1267
01:14:54,800 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 1: what it's like, you know what, Steve is taking this

1268
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: thing way too since they checked out of this part

1269
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: of the process. Like I'm going, I'm finding the record.

1270
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk if it comes from him. Whoever,

1271
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: I'm finding a record. I gotta beat, hard, knock, life, period,

1272
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: fun everything. I go find the record. Foxy plays me

1273
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: the record, doesn't even give a funk about it like this,

1274
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: It is stupid. She said that, um, Derek Angeltti produced it.

1275
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: I called Dita. I'm like, Derek, you produced a song

1276
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: called hate Me Now pretty Boy on it. How could

1277
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: you not even play that? Finds because back then you

1278
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: can cat producers like you have the right to get

1279
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,560
Speaker 1: the first hot beat. Of course, especially he's like, I

1280
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: have no idea what you're talking about. Fox He made

1281
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: that up. Didn't shock me. She said that she said

1282
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: that Derek produced it. Derek didn't produce it. She was

1283
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: trying to make the record like like it was a

1284
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: it was a great song, but in order to make

1285
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: it to market it like, oh we got beat from

1286
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: Derek ANGELETTI me or I wasn't derk Angeleetti, as I

1287
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: find out when I called Dirt, So then I called

1288
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: her brother I call pretty boy. I'm in a studio,

1289
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: I said, pretty boy, Gavin. I didn't call him pretty boy,

1290
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: so I said Gavin. I said, Gavin, you gotta come

1291
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: to the studio. He comes to the studio and I

1292
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: play him the rough. I'm like, who did that? He

1293
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: goes I did? I said, you produced this? He said yep.

1294
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: I said, go get me the master's right now. I

1295
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: wants tonight, buy him from I want to. I want

1296
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: that record that song. He said to me, Um, I'll

1297
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: give it to you. I need a set. I said,

1298
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this set? I still don't know

1299
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: what I said. He said, a match and chain, embrace it.

1300
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: I said, I got you what the set? I can't

1301
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: do it right now, but go it's cold as it's

1302
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: the winter, I said, go get the ship. He starts

1303
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: to leave. I said, no, no, no, give me your mink.

1304
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: I took his mink coat, like the making. I said,

1305
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: leave your making, the studio back to you. Come back.

1306
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 1: This is getting weird style. Let's go feel it's not

1307
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 1: getting weird. No, not weird. It is you know it's

1308
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: not where this is different. Let's go trying to get

1309
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: a song. He took his coat because I don't think

1310
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna come back. I just feel like his mad

1311
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: code at this time. I don't know it is cool.

1312
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 1: I feel like it's forty with low outside, you little

1313
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: beating the T shirt. This was drink chin Yeah, yeah,

1314
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: right on another base Channa. You know he's just that

1315
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: to about to get sick good. He comes back. He

1316
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 1: comes back with the racket, big up gab. He comes

1317
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:54,560
Speaker 1: back with the song and now was it he was

1318
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,600
Speaker 1: trying to sound like puffing man. I was about to

1319
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: ask that that was the next day. He was trying

1320
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: to sound like puff Puff was the bigger star in

1321
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: the world. I get a record to NAS. I'm like,

1322
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling everybody, this is the single. Everybody. I don't

1323
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: care what you do. I don't care what anybody does,

1324
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 1: because what we're doing this is this is gonna be hard,

1325
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 1: not like he's a fact. Then you go to Queen's

1326
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no. Then so then so then

1327
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: after that we go NAS records the record. How many

1328
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: times that I make how many times that I mixed

1329
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 1: that ringing over and over? I would mix it over

1330
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 1: and over and over and over and over and over again.

1331
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: It's such a valuable lesson in my life with that

1332
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: song because I wanted it so bad. I wanted it

1333
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: so bad that shots down and he recorded that mixed,

1334
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: then Puffy recorded any thing. Then we go to shoot

1335
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 1: the video. The videos A million dollars Highway wants a

1336
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: million dollars to shoot it. Puffy has this idea, We're

1337
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: gonna drag the crush of the desert. We're gonna do this,

1338
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna do that. And Puffy taught me something. He

1339
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: told us all something very smart that I think about

1340
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 1: it all the time. He's like, when you want to

1341
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 1: do something like really fucking shocking, like you gotta do

1342
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 1: like I'm in. He had shot this r Kelly video

1343
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: and they were in a convertible and it was raining

1344
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: or it was snowing or something like that, and he's like,

1345
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: that's when you do that ship Like you dropped the

1346
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: top and it ship's raining outside. That ship is dough

1347
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 1: like gregging is performed on the top of a bodega

1348
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: and like that bitch like it's Madison Square Garden. I'm like, oh, ship.

1349
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's what I didn't Can it

1350
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: be so simple? The Wootang video I made the project

1351
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: slip beautiful, and I'm like, so now I got the vision.

1352
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna hate me now Jesus went through being hated.

1353
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this thing in Queen's We're gonna light

1354
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: this ship up. Alright, cool, we go through the whole thing.

1355
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 1: Shoot the video, million bucks spent and Puff two days

1356
01:19:53,760 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: before his uh, Reverend doesn't want to be and on

1357
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: records on the cross, Puff puffs Puff as a reference

1358
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: who didn't want me to be on it? And I

1359
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: have to respect what his references. I'm going to see

1360
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: them like Puff think because they were black crows on

1361
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: the cross. I mean it was very very dark. Pipe

1362
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: Will was put crops on the cross, but they didn't

1363
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: do that as they were actually there, right, they could

1364
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: have been I don't remember. I don't know. It could

1365
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: have been there. Huh. It was. It was dark. It

1366
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: was very very dark, and I can see why preacher

1367
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 1: or something would have an issue if you're religious, right,

1368
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: doesn't change in the narrative. It's ridiculously dupe. You know,

1369
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: it's still cinematic there on the other side. Wanted to

1370
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: talks about the two other guys. Oh word, yeah, the thief.

1371
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 1: No one talks about those guys get what he goes.

1372
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 1: This is present Fox with it, so I can tell

1373
01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 1: you so he wants he wants after because the past

1374
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: knows beforehand. Before beforehand, pupp was like no no, no,

1375
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: no no. But the edits already done. Shouldn't need to

1376
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: do another edit without him on the cross. But this

1377
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: is the part that Puff got. I'm the manager, guys,

1378
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: I think that the companies scause dollars spending money. Locket

1379
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: Company spent the money. They have two videos done and

1380
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: it's a t r O worldman. Everybody wants to do

1381
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: on Tira and the World Premier. That's what a rapping

1382
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 1: artists will get it. The rap artist wasn't getting that,

1383
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, his hip hop is not getting that.

1384
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: But now we're gonna take down all knock life, you know. Anyhow,

1385
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: Terra comes out. The head of the record company was

1386
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 1: ahead of Sony Music at the time. This guy named

1387
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: Don Einer. This is a guy, This guy absolute racist.

1388
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: Let's right. He dropped the Descent, he dropped the Lesia keys.

1389
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 1: He he did not funk with anything if it had

1390
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: a problem attached to it. Colonbia Records, the guy who

1391
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: dit it was a complete pig. This guy, Yeah, this

1392
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: guy puts up the money. So now when Puff wants

1393
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 1: to change the video, Donnie's like, I already laid out

1394
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: the money, but I can't even I'm trying to get

1395
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: Puff to see the other side, but I can't control

1396
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 1: then putting that video on tier up. When the video

1397
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: goes up, if everybody holds me responsible not even knowing

1398
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: that there's a guy who wrote the check, was like,

1399
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: he knows what that crossine is. That ship was half

1400
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: of that million dollars. He's not taking that shoot out

1401
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: for the terror warper Man, He's accounting for it. Puff

1402
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: video Tira goes on at three o'clock, three or two.

1403
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: Four niggers in my office. They jumped me. They beat

1404
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: me up in my office, three or two, three or three.

1405
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: That's what happens. But what takes place within years after

1406
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: that is like my relationship with Puff. We both came

1407
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: up at the same exact time. We're both we may

1408
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: be doing this, we may we be there the two

1409
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 1: oldest guys who've been doing it the longest. Maybe because

1410
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: I remember I was. I was in Puff's office when

1411
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson announced he at EIDs like that was two

1412
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: like I remember specifically being in this office and he

1413
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 1: was promoting the party he worked at uptime. Like that's

1414
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: how long I noticed guy, So that our relationship was

1415
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: long and it was always a mutual respect. Even when

1416
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: he was as big as he was, the biggest star

1417
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: in the world, I never felt like I couldn't call

1418
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: him or whatever whatever whatever. So when I took place,

1419
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: it was fucked up, and I was embarrassed. Naturally, I

1420
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: was embarrassed because I don't even want that to be

1421
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 1: to define who I was, like some motherfucking bummass nigger.

1422
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: I got jumped for Nail's bullshit and definitely called my

1423
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: mom's apologize my mom's first. That made more to me

1424
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: than anything else. And then like you know, that's how

1425
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: close it was. But when did he when did that happen?

1426
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: When it happened, he immediately called my mom's. I need

1427
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: anything you have to get the next day, you gotta

1428
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: call my mother first. For the jumping you got my mother.

1429
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: My mother doesn't know it from a die in this

1430
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: music business, so all she's doing is looking at him this.

1431
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: You gotta call her. I need to get that off

1432
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: from my back, like you. Everybody knows that, So we

1433
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: got past the mom thing and then no, it took

1434
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: it was why it was it was because it was

1435
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: a very pitotal, pivotal point in my life because I'm like,

1436
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,799
Speaker 1: you know, I got money too, I can hire soldiers.

1437
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 1: We could do with that. But like you could do that, right,

1438
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: you could easily do that like a tip for ta. Yeah,

1439
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: you could definitely play that game. I'm not that guy.

1440
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: He's I'm not that guy. And yeah, it was cool

1441
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: enough he knew your family that, No, he knew. He

1442
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: didn't know my family to call my mom though it

1443
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 1: wasn't about he knew my momy the car, whether knew

1444
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: or not the AFTERMATHIW when you look at it now,

1445
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean he's stay I stayed in his house. He

1446
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: stays at my house. You know, I'm probably know a

1447
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 1: situation to age. Well, yeah, well how do you all

1448
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: amend that? Though? How how do you all amend that?

1449
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: How does that happen? Does it through Nas? I feel

1450
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: like no, Nas was Nas was worthless and trying to

1451
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 1: fix it. Damn Jesus. Not the baby with the bath

1452
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: water where he was worthless and trying to fix that.

1453
01:25:58,479 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: I think he's not the great on the greatest at

1454
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 1: the right right, that's life. It's come on, man, it's

1455
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: not cool. So how do how there's two tycoons work

1456
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: out a problem that was misfortunate? How does this happen

1457
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: in real life and real time? And we could all

1458
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 1: learn from that? We can all learn from that. Well,

1459
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: I have to walk around for two years and people

1460
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: saying they can puppy hit you overhead of the bottom.

1461
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 1: I have to walk around. I have to own that

1462
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: that didn't happen. But yeah, but I got you. Yeah,

1463
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: I gotta got feeling could easily allow you to go

1464
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: get some guns or some guys and go do something

1465
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: in order for you to feel like you were um,

1466
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 1: like you weren't a victim, like you were just somebody

1467
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,560
Speaker 1: like you weren't. No, I'm not I'm that guy. But

1468
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: we gotta in life. You gotta played the marathon, man.

1469
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: You gotta play the long game. You gotta play the

1470
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: long game. But I don't look home. He heared this guy, Chris.

1471
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, this story. I heard it, Chris, So you

1472
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 1: gotta hear from me. Now. The wedding like your disrespect,

1473
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna answer me on tape, this guy, Chris Flighting

1474
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: wedding is a drunk at this man's wedding. He remembers

1475
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: the quick and he's going around and he's flipping out

1476
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: on me, and it's like Chris Lighter's wedding and this

1477
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 1: guy tell you something. He was in Miami. It's in

1478
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 1: my head. But the record we produced, I was Mary J.

1479
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: Blige was like a firm Yeah, this is the thing

1480
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: you walked in. It was it hurted my feelings so bad.

1481
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: I took you off the record. No, you know, I

1482
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 1: was still on the record, but y'all said, you walked in,

1483
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: and it was you said something like you show up,

1484
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep him on the record in front of me,

1485
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: like I wanted you to to weight that in. That's

1486
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 1: something I just said. But you know what, And then

1487
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 1: let me just say something. I recently came to you

1488
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: at NAS this thing, and I apologize because you know

1489
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: why I needed you didn't give me. It's not that

1490
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 1: you didn't give me no love. You gave me the

1491
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 1: toughest love ever. And you being from Queens and we're

1492
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: being from Queens. I realized that twenty years later that

1493
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 1: I needed that. I needed you to be tough on me,

1494
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: like when you walked in I was the only guy

1495
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: that was on that record that wasn't firmed. You were

1496
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: supposed to question that moment. No chill, to chill, let me,

1497
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: let me make this. It's big enough. And so those

1498
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: years I was mad at you because I was like, damn,

1499
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 1: because like I was used to people being faith to me,

1500
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: like they all talk about me behind my back. You

1501
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 1: actually told about me in front of my bag. Are

1502
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: we sure we wanted him on the record, but like

1503
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: two ways in they can do that, right to it

1504
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: and even I'm leaving your question, but whatever it was,

1505
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 1: and I needed that tough love, like listen, listen, listen,

1506
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: because that's who makes me who I am today. I

1507
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: had and and in retro respect when I hear you

1508
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: speak about other artists, I could see it because Chris

1509
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 1: had invested me a little early and I was Na's

1510
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,679
Speaker 1: friend or Jungle's friend. But I just I just didn't

1511
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: have no, like you said, structure. So I understand later

1512
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: it's just like you said, you just called day. That's

1513
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 1: why I felt with you, And I was like, you

1514
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 1: know what, because the thing about it is, I don't

1515
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 1: I want it that way. I wanted them to be

1516
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 1: able to if somebody don't see it. See the picture.

1517
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 1: I liked it that like, you know what I'm saying

1518
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 1: like I mean now I can realize that you know

1519
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying today about I mean today because you

1520
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 1: apologize you said it to me. I was I was

1521
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: tough on you. I'll listen to all your music. Thing

1522
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: you used to take rhymes off, see some crazy ship

1523
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: that was not when you when you it also right,

1524
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 1: listen to and why exclusten to when you said can

1525
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 1: you go to some other records and you don't even

1526
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: give a funk. It's definitely true stuff. Yeah, I don't

1527
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: like do that. You're gonna kill that. It's very true. Listen,

1528
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. It's just that you

1529
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 1: know what, it was no record I ever came out

1530
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 1: slacked or any rhyme on the track master beat. That's

1531
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 1: a fat because what's name? That's what I'm leaving. I'm leaving.

1532
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I killed that. You Let me tell you,

1533
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, let me tell you that test

1534
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 1: that was nature self. You have a bully man. I

1535
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 1: wasn't damn talk little. I do agree with you that, Okay,

1536
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: just go that sha remember us right, okay, we was

1537
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: wrapping up the firm album. Yes, I thought I was filing.

1538
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: We had fun nats on some more joints and no,

1539
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 1: so I need to get on this firm out. No, no, no,

1540
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 1: they flew me up. I actually got flew out. I

1541
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: got everything I think, had no bottles. I just was.

1542
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: I was. I was happy to be a party, a

1543
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 1: classic continue. It was for nature. No, it was Nature's session.

1544
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: That's how I remember. I came in and you played

1545
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 1: the beat, and Nature had nothing for me, and I

1546
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: couldn't resist. Same. I got something exactly, and I went

1547
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: in and looked, let me take something crazy ship. A

1548
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know. I come from the unique days,

1549
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: like I'm sorry, I'm gonna sure how I'm forty years old,

1550
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 1: forty years stout already blew me up. He must the

1551
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 1: Google he knew, he said, you just yeah, you know,

1552
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 1: I'm really for So. I come from unique radio days

1553
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 1: where you write the whole rhyme and you lay it

1554
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: as such. So I remember that I leave and remember

1555
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 1: the tape, the two inch rento I had. I had

1556
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 1: laid the whole rhyme in front of Nature, and they

1557
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: was like tad me say this is this, so they

1558
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: like I laid the whole leaven like like like now

1559
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 1: I can't say one tape, but I had because I

1560
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 1: had had an idea. Yeah, it was definitely wasn't one tape. Nah,

1561
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: he that one bloody money part two to chop up

1562
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 1: his versus man. That's how six teams back then. Listen, listen.

1563
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 1: I had wrote rhymes back then stout as a whole,

1564
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: but I would do right now, I would be through

1565
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: thirty two bars and then you don't play music like

1566
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 1: if you say something you can't hit like a boom

1567
01:32:54,040 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: trying to pay no publish to do that. You didn't

1568
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 1: want to relax you the whole episode talk. He still

1569
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 1: management getting hard, he's still trying to work back to look,

1570
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 1: let me ask you something steeps down and and tone

1571
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: to look. You know sound exchanges right now, sound exchange

1572
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:27,959
Speaker 1: is something that um is internet being mys internet ascat.

1573
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 1: That's the government. It's the government. Now they pay you

1574
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,719
Speaker 1: for every song. So now let's suppose and on a podcast,

1575
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 1: a podcast is something that you don't play music or whatever. Right,

1576
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 1: but let's vote, because let sleep, I feel like me

1577
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: you and told me some money in this way. Look

1578
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna start making sound Exchange recognize recognize a podcast

1579
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 1: when we play music. So now now we can't get

1580
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 1: sounding change for podcasting. This is what I'm saying. Listen, listen,

1581
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 1: listen to Sound of Stage pays you for what you

1582
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 1: your Internet. Yeah, I'm not going anywhere. Okay, cool, because

1583
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: you know I've been. I don't want that and I'm

1584
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: not even going to get my membership. Y'all changed these stop.

1585
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: Let's tell you very problem this by the way, I've

1586
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 1: never played the game. You know what was my problem

1587
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:26,720
Speaker 1: coming up? I just wanted different. Stop throwing me up

1588
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: stinging already stopped. Listen. I realized I fucked up. What

1589
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: I mean by that is some of the most famous

1590
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 1: years of my life. I didn't want to play the game.

1591
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 1: You ever watched Entourage already, God says the Vents. You

1592
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:48,600
Speaker 1: never played the game Vents like I had success. I

1593
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: went platinum, and I still wanted to hang up the tunnel.

1594
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 1: I never wanted to go over there. I never wanted

1595
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: to go to like. That's not okay, good stop you

1596
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: could throw it out. Not like you shouldn't have made money,

1597
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 1: went platinum and you still shouldn't went to the tune.

1598
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 1: All those things are cool. You just weren't you. If

1599
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 1: you don't take your craft seriously, if you don't work

1600
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 1: on your craft, you take it for granted, take it

1601
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: for granted. I think that's the she was taking it

1602
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 1: for granted. You don't suck the soulabouse, you just don't

1603
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 1: take yourself of what hap The food is a great

1604
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 1: is the vibe is good. The food isn't great, but

1605
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 1: the mallible one is fantastic. That's a separate vibe. That's

1606
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 1: a whole. That's a separate vibe. I got that membership

1607
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 1: too as well. So I'm sorry, you gotta relax. You

1608
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:51,560
Speaker 1: get listen. I know what you'll be getting movies to.

1609
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 1: Let's make the money for grand like Ship he's the guy.

1610
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 1: He's never gonna show you got money like he's not listen,

1611
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 1: never like Daddy, look your head stop like now, hip hop.

1612
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we're gonna change the Southern real quick. Hip hop.

1613
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 1: It's really actually has a chance to be wealthy, and

1614
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 1: for a while people will only have a chance to

1615
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 1: be rich or be what I like to call hood

1616
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 1: rich on nigga rich. Now, it's a real chance for

1617
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 1: us to have wealthy and wealthy baby, right we are.

1618
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 1: Did you think I'm gonna take a shot of your whiskey?

1619
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: I never did this. It's like I don't drinking. I'm drinking,

1620
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 1: but you want to right, I can't. Gotta give my

1621
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: soul whole card up card. I need you to teach

1622
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 1: me more, make it different. I'm right here. Okay, you

1623
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 1: want to teach me more, I'm not tell you more.

1624
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. I'm texting me. I wanted to

1625
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 1: do this again. Tell me about the fucking soul. I okay,

1626
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: but you want to bring about but as I'm not.

1627
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 1: You gotta teach rat class. You got teaching it right now.

1628
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 1: But I mean, but all actuality. Right. So look, the

1629
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 1: issue is the following man. At some point, you gotta

1630
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 1: really believe that you're not full of ship and getting

1631
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: over them to make some money. You just gotta know

1632
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 1: that you really are talented, you really are good, You

1633
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 1: really are bringing more to the table than anybody realizes.

1634
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: And once you started believing that, accepting that truth, then

1635
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 1: you start making deals that are applicable to what you're

1636
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 1: putting up for the transaction to work. And that's how

1637
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna make all the money, like whether it's a

1638
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 1: big enough. I'm entering the music business again. We're going

1639
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: back into music business. That's the announcement he was about

1640
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 1: to make. Yeah, I'm going back into music business. You

1641
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 1: make it, and yeah, we're going back into music business.

1642
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 1: Anybody be quiet home. You're going back and I'm going

1643
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm going back into music business. So we need a

1644
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 1: black CEO. I spend my time. I learned the music business.

1645
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 1: Then I went and I built an advertising company. You

1646
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 1: do nothing about advertising, Yes, you did. All of a sudden,

1647
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 1: everybody got cool and advertising. I was there five years

1648
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 1: and was naturally the word was what was natural to me?

1649
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: You put pepsi what you did commercials? How about how

1650
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 1: about the ai J face? We're got to be tone

1651
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 1: with the white and background? New you you the jay

1652
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 1: Z seeking send you screams all that ship. They wouldn't

1653
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 1: even be no sneakers, not hip hop sneakers. Did you

1654
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 1: just tell me he has something to do the easiest,

1655
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 1: because then I'm gonna not bad at your in all

1656
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: my patis, I got no freezing. I'm staying jay Z

1657
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 1: was jay Z sneaking. The first hip hop sneaker did

1658
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 1: was a failed attempt to do it. Who jay Z

1659
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 1: run DMC up because they didn't have you know, they

1660
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 1: fucked up because they didn't they have you They hunt

1661
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,600
Speaker 1: jay Z ship, the Union Ship, Dice school Ship, and

1662
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 1: we start how monument to was that? Because that was

1663
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 1: the first time you see jay Z and fifty say

1664
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 1: actually commercial and commercial? How monument to was that? Did?

1665
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 1: They go back and forth, back and frog For me,

1666
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 1: That's what I do, man, I'm really really nice at

1667
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:51,720
Speaker 1: what I do. Know we know that That's probably why

1668
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 1: I was managing all these years. I just wanted someone

1669
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 1: to help. That's what some of your money you keep

1670
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 1: it in the money I really see from that perspective. Anyhow,

1671
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 1: we going back to the music. Um, I feel like artists,

1672
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 1: there's always gonna be big artists. There's always gonna be

1673
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:15,560
Speaker 1: artists who don't really need um anything other than the

1674
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 1: fact that once they get up and they rock, they

1675
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 1: can go on tour and make a lot of money.

1676
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 1: But then there's a lot of artists that are not

1677
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 1: those big artists and they really do need help. And

1678
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,600
Speaker 1: if you're gonna sell money, you're gonna sell music is

1679
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: gonna get streamed and you get all these streams and

1680
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 1: by the time it goes through your label and get

1681
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 1: to you, you make this amount of money. You already

1682
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: know you're not gonna make any money from the streams.

1683
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna make your money touring, selling merche pats, all

1684
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: all the ship. So we're building a company called United Masters, right,

1685
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: and the job of United Masters is specifically to be

1686
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,640
Speaker 1: able to take all the data that comes off from

1687
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 1: your streaming and allow you to find those people in

1688
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 1: the real world so that you can sell them merchant

1689
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 1: tickets and ship director so I don't have to go

1690
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 1: too able to do it. So it really is more

1691
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 1: so it's not six, well, it's three. It's an agency

1692
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 1: or a platform that people can it's it's because of

1693
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 1: the agency to become a platform. It's a platform that

1694
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:18,920
Speaker 1: artists can go on and then figure out exactly who

1695
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,839
Speaker 1: their fans are so they can sell ship. So anybody

1696
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 1: can can go to the platt any artist, any artist

1697
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 1: who's invited to the platform can go out invited okay,

1698
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,680
Speaker 1: So meaning okay, so you just can't be somebody off

1699
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 1: the street and just post your ship on there. You

1700
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 1: have to be invited. You know. In the beginning, we

1701
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 1: want to make it. We want to make it close.

1702
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:41,799
Speaker 1: I'm just can't do with everybody, yeah, because it gets crazy,

1703
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, it gets crazy? Is it like a band

1704
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 1: camp dot com? Like? No, we looked at all those

1705
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 1: things old and why all those things didn't work? What's

1706
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 1: band camp? Actually they're very good platform, brother, the platform

1707
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 1: is really great. They can't give artists tools to be

1708
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 1: able to understand how to make money outside of just

1709
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 1: the music because I'm taking everything that I've done in

1710
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 1: making artists money outside the music business. You want to

1711
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 1: talk about the work that I've done in that area, Yes, please,

1712
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:18,640
Speaker 1: because I mean, I just yes, I would like I

1713
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 1: would like you to take the lead of this conversation

1714
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: right now. It's fantastic. I've always been the guy to

1715
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:30,560
Speaker 1: figure out how are we gonna make money outside of

1716
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 1: the music business. That's one thing, that's a label, that's this,

1717
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 1: that's that. But how are we gonna sell sneakers? How

1718
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 1: are we gonna sell more tickets? How are we gonna

1719
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 1: get endorsed? With deals? Pushing t writing? I'm loving it

1720
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 1: for McDonald make donald, Yes, this is always been that deal.

1721
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 1: Ye what made you think push your te go right?

1722
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 1: Um grinding I'm like, grind d I'm like, I just

1723
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 1: liked it. That's what I was mad at you. I

1724
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: was want to read grinding You ain't think that about me.

1725
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 1: But but but put your teeth wrote the raps, he

1726
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: wrote push your tee was the writer on that, hey man.

1727
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 1: He was the whole ship. I put the whole ship

1728
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 1: around put your teeth justin. Tim Blake was the front man.

1729
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 1: Your team was behind the scenes, which is crazy. Makes

1730
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 1: the most money behind the scenes. He's probably the most

1731
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: drug detta rapper in the world. And every time you

1732
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 1: heard I'm loving It, you have never thought to push

1733
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,560
Speaker 1: your tea in your life. And he doesn't want you

1734
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 1: to take the check until just now anyhow, that is dope.

1735
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 1: So the fact that now what I want to build

1736
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: and it's just cruel walk run family. We'll get them.

1737
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 1: Three years, five years, tennis, we'll get there. It is

1738
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 1: how does artists stream him? You exectly and then be

1739
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 1: able to know who the funk is streaming my ship?

1740
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:06,600
Speaker 1: Because if they like my ship, if they listen to

1741
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 1: my se yeah they listen to my song seventy five times,

1742
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:12,599
Speaker 1: then they definitely want to buy a dream Champ's hand.

1743
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: If somebody listened to every episode of the show, wouldn't

1744
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: you love to know what they were to sell in

1745
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:19,680
Speaker 1: this hand, that's what we're trying to do, and that's

1746
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 1: what I'm doing, and that's what we're building, and we're

1747
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 1: putting on your team together to do that. And it

1748
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:31,640
Speaker 1: requires the delicate relationship between storytelling, culture and technology and

1749
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 1: putting those things together. That's what it is. It's not

1750
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:39,720
Speaker 1: a pie in the sky idea. It's the next evolution

1751
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 1: of where we need to go, what culture needs to go.

1752
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 1: We need to know who are super fans are? Now

1753
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 1: you are? You are your partners on that of course,

1754
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 1: so he's gonna produced the ship. No strictly executive. Tones

1755
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 1: are strictly executive. You're telling us how to find the artists.

1756
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say something. You said something, mall

1757
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 1: ship you know works just be all over the place.

1758
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:15,680
Speaker 1: Now this is why. But if you knew exactly all

1759
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: the people who watch the show, and you're able to say,

1760
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 1: you know what, there's a hundred thousand people who would

1761
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 1: love to buy that shirt where that hat, you're gonna

1762
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 1: upgrade us right now? You would have been there business

1763
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: and you don't want to go through anybody else to

1764
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: interrupt that relationship. Just Instagram is cool and Facebook is cool,

1765
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 1: but they don't really tell you director consumer type of deal. Ultimately,

1766
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 1: we're building a director consumer business. Just so you noticed

1767
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: for another time. You know, this is eight and nine

1768
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 1: clothing store. They're doing anything. We partner it up and

1769
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 1: with the drink Champs they handle our merchant and this

1770
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 1: is dope. But we could definitely use your expertise and

1771
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 1: helping us in a direction because nigga don't know body

1772
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 1: on earth half Tom Brody enough. But besides you, you

1773
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: gotta relax and you gotta make some interesting So when

1774
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 1: we ever have like an era like we had again,

1775
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 1: like where it was like so much years of great,

1776
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 1: great music, or is it more about making an artist

1777
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:30,640
Speaker 1: like because because right now, uh, like it seems like

1778
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 1: the music is just so disposable. It doesn't I don't

1779
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 1: want to go you know, we keep please help. It's tough, bro,

1780
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 1: It's it's tough, bro. Were you about to do It's tough?

1781
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 1: Believe me stuff man, because because remember like remember and

1782
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 1: like I don't want to date us, but in the

1783
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 1: nineties and when in the nineties, I'm saying all of

1784
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 1: us in the nineties, it felt like when a when

1785
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 1: a record was a classic, when the record was talking

1786
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 1: about something else. O oh no, that's that's what volt cameras,

1787
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 1: that's how people is right there, you gotta relax listen.

1788
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 1: But in our day it felt like back then, right

1789
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: when the record was a classic and actually held up.

1790
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:13,679
Speaker 1: I wanted to wait for my partner. I don't wanted

1791
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 1: to Yeah, okay, I got damn. Still, God damn, I

1792
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 1: feel like you want to go there. I feel like man.

1793
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 1: But back then, didn't it feel like a record like

1794
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 1: lasted long looking it stopped for it this time he

1795
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 1: wanted to record, but didn't they put like a record

1796
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 1: lasted longer back then. Oh now these records come and

1797
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 1: they go like like all right for you, for you,

1798
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: right stop, I'll direct this perfectly to you. These people

1799
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:53,640
Speaker 1: will come to you. French montanas sa yo, No, they

1800
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 1: drank that ship all you didn't get the French We

1801
01:47:56,640 --> 01:48:00,040
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, we drank it off. But let's it.

1802
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:03,760
Speaker 1: You know a rapper friendly that's e forty ship. We

1803
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 1: used to have ballet of a young sav be. He'd be,

1804
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: he'd be, he'd be slow. But but you know, we

1805
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 1: got we got Darion, But didn't it seem like back then,

1806
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 1: like the records, when the record was a hit, it

1807
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 1: actually lasted ten years like that, they actually spread as

1808
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 1: opposed years like a classic. I mean, a classic holds

1809
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 1: the test of time. Are we not seeing that? Like

1810
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 1: the records? Like you'll hear somebody else, but I'm just

1811
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: popping there and I'm popping my co and then and

1812
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 1: then what song do you think that we'll last? You'll

1813
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 1: listen to from now? That's not many is a good answer?

1814
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 1: Which ones? Damn? I think some of Kendricks records will yes.

1815
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 1: Like I say that, I think records that well, yeah,

1816
01:48:54,000 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a little boozy Bert some love. Uh

1817
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 1: that s it does something to my soul's guys, like

1818
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 1: I'm designed gonna lie. I know my old thing. I'm forty.

1819
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 1: It's facts I'm not for in my but it's something

1820
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 1: who I mean, but it's something he can't struct me.

1821
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 1: It's something in my soul that comes on and I'll

1822
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 1: just be like a ship. I don't do his dance

1823
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 1: that he do. He gotta he gotta dance. I do

1824
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 1: not agree doing something. I tried one dance, how y'all

1825
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 1: how many of the songs you make that work other

1826
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 1: than country, Graham damp style, you're going with dance style. Damn,

1827
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 1: nothing that I remember. So now he made one song,

1828
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 1: no Down Down Baby. Still it's still lit. It's country,

1829
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 1: I said the other Damn, he said, I done. So

1830
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 1: what's your boy style? I'm making it. I'm I'm okay

1831
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 1: right hot here before country ground, Yeah, okay, okay. So

1832
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 1: let's say that he's asked three songs. How many songs

1833
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 1: did Yarroll have last ten years? Last ten years? Ten

1834
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 1: years later now are still resonated. Everybody gets weird when

1835
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 1: the question comes up. I don't know. I want to

1836
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 1: understand the question. The question is how songs today, he

1837
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: saying him since won't last. So he's saying, I like

1838
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 1: little Loozy urt this one song, blah blah blah. My

1839
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 1: question is, and I'm gonna take it around back from

1840
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 1: our error when classics were being made, right, right, how

1841
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 1: many songs you knowl he played ten years later? We're

1842
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 1: saying two maybe three? Right? So then I asked Yarrow,

1843
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make ant, trying to say that nothing's changed. Actually,

1844
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 1: what I'm getting to that feel like job will got

1845
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 1: a lie that plays right now now. I mean the

1846
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 1: parties go, I'm old nag, they still rocket job, I

1847
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 1: gotta I Gotta wood tap. But I don't know if

1848
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:08,799
Speaker 1: you've ever been there, they don't play all the new clubs.

1849
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 1: You're saying, you know what, what's the point do you

1850
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 1: really try? Yeah, so we get he's got and then

1851
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 1: from the point, ye good in our definition definition of

1852
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 1: what it is. We may look at our hour. We

1853
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 1: love it so much that we covered more than when

1854
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:31,960
Speaker 1: we listened to the music today. But like this ship

1855
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 1: is disposab delicious bullshit. The truth to the man is

1856
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:36,720
Speaker 1: a lot of music that we listened to back then

1857
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 1: was bush just as disposable. But we don't say that.

1858
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 1: But when you look at it ten years later, nearly

1859
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 1: had generational thing. The generational thing, you look at it

1860
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 1: hits three songs. Jarrold tell me, I may records of this,

1861
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 1: and I hate to use those two guys because outside

1862
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:56,839
Speaker 1: him Nellie, outside of Naas and jay z or Biggie,

1863
01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:59,640
Speaker 1: those are the guys, right Those those those those are

1864
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 1: the that that is that is differentiation what you're saying

1865
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 1: right there, because to me, you're saying, like the nas

1866
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 1: the biggie. That's like Bob Marvey. Yeah, forget those guys.

1867
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 1: That whole catalog is gonna be revers like and everybody

1868
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 1: else who came when the heels of that, Hey, what

1869
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:18,560
Speaker 1: did they do? That works ten years later? Right? So

1870
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 1: now we're gonna say, oh, Kendrick Drake, whoever, And now

1871
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:27,560
Speaker 1: we're naming only artists ten years later, that's all. And

1872
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 1: if there's a bunch of guys who made a bunch

1873
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:33,679
Speaker 1: of records who made some money in between, fucking fucking

1874
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to shoot on him. Fucking they're doing

1875
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,839
Speaker 1: what they had to do. He walking a fucking session

1876
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 1: that wasn't his. It was called work ethic, you know,

1877
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 1: so like just shooting on Believe me, I went through

1878
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: that process. I was like, man, I hate this ship.

1879
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 1: This music sucks. I can't leads think it has no rhymes.

1880
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 1: But then you realize that's what the generation likes to do.

1881
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 1: Do what doesn't work. Make music for you and me.

1882
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 1: We got great bits. They don't want to make music

1883
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 1: all the way white. I was just not even call

1884
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 1: it great great. I tried it. I got the great

1885
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 1: pair of gang t shirts, but it's not working. I'm

1886
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:29,560
Speaker 1: looking with my bar like make you way of that.

1887
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 1: Don't put no inky no, I don't do no. That's

1888
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 1: somebody who do it right, But everybody I know somebody

1889
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 1: that does. I don't know that bad. I decided I'm

1890
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 1: not going time when somebody gotta go Beijing. You never

1891
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 1: went Beijing? Are you crazy? I never ready to go

1892
01:53:54,200 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: with shoe pology has exactly. So now we asked the

1893
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 1: best era hip hop? We asked I don't think we

1894
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 1: really got that very clear. To be quite honest with you, Listen,

1895
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 1: you can finally, what did you define the I think

1896
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 1: it's I think it's I think it's eight seven to

1897
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 1: eighty nine lyrics. I say he said the nineties happen.

1898
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 1: That's why we because he said nineties like a decade.

1899
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 1: And then he started saying three year increments. Okay, okay,

1900
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 1: so where disagree in disagreement? What's your favorite? You know

1901
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 1: my nineties? God, because I came up was the three

1902
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 1: years increment three years ago? Look at the lyrics of

1903
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 1: eighty seven. Listen, you can't influence this. It's gonna be

1904
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 1: talking on my partner. I'm gonna be honest. But recently

1905
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 1: had Arab go here, right, what did he say? Too much?

1906
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 1: Grat great stuff, great stuff. We love him, but like

1907
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't wonder when he was a kid and I

1908
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 1: was in the kindergarten together first Yeah, yeah, kid style

1909
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:21,960
Speaker 1: though nobody kindergarten. Yeah, pictures that stay. We have buster

1910
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 1: him in high school, we get it. Why kid kid

1911
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 1: in kindergarten and Earth Earth Earth when he was I

1912
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 1: never heard of the game. Nobody still know. This is

1913
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 1: so hard. I'm so sorry. It's a moment for me.

1914
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 1: Style continue. You and IRV Colly in kindergarten? Is it

1915
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 1: Charleston Chill was involved at any point? Yeah? Now how

1916
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 1: about this with the kindergarten, first, second, and third grade together?

1917
01:55:57,120 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 1: And I'm born in the same day. Whoa Oh and

1918
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 1: I worked with Irv's brother as a bank group, both

1919
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 1: bank tellers at Chase Manhattan Bank. Oh, ten years old, Chris, Yeah,

1920
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 1: y'all work with the money early. Oh yeah, so check

1921
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 1: this off. This is crazy drinking more. When he was fourteen,

1922
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 1: we had an afro. Do you guys have some other

1923
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:32,120
Speaker 1: fucking afro? He got was Mike earlier? There was no Mike. Okay,

1924
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 1: a fake nazis what that's what you called? Mike? We go.

1925
01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 1: This guy is hilarious. He's like, that wasn't I wasn't

1926
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 1: not ready? That was ready? I was not ready, can't

1927
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:59,040
Speaker 1: ready ready. He's like, ramble, I so appreciate you right now.

1928
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:06,480
Speaker 1: Continue to be that guy. Son. IRV is djay in

1929
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 1: in the park and spinning at fourteen years old. You know,

1930
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 1: like when you see the young kid who's a genius

1931
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, I look at this kid. That was

1932
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 1: IRV when the one of twos, he was a genius.

1933
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 1: Erv was spinning and cutting at fourteen years old, and

1934
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 1: while everybody else was in the seventh eighth grade doing

1935
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:28,440
Speaker 1: normal things, he was. He was. He was the highlight

1936
01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 1: at a party like featuring the RV Gotti. This young

1937
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 1: genius IRV got is a very very very special talented

1938
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 1: dog man. Like I funk one of him. We've go

1939
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,080
Speaker 1: back and forth, like you know, we've do whatever regular

1940
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 1: nigga ship. That guy is really talented, loves hip hop,

1941
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 1: loves hip hop history, and I have the most respectful him.

1942
01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 1: I think Tales, what he's doing with Tales is though,

1943
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna fucking win. I think at the

1944
01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:00,160
Speaker 1: end of the day, when it's all over, Earth got

1945
01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 1: he would be at the top. We got one of

1946
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 1: the funniest stories in the world. One day, I remember murder.

1947
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know me and John Rule

1948
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 1: when he was twelve million and I was gold. We

1949
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 1: lived the next story to each other in New Jersey.

1950
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 1: It's crazy because I had six cars. He had six cars,

1951
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:30,400
Speaker 1: but his six CAUs was way different than my six cars. Right,

1952
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 1: it's never had this one right. But one day IRV

1953
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 1: got it's in the murder in Cofice. I walk in, Man,

1954
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to get my friend, my next door neighbor

1955
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 1: really drunk and herb comes in and he says, Steve Stout,

1956
01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 1: he's not talking to me, he's talking to his crew.

1957
01:58:55,920 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 1: He says, Steve Stout just told me. I fucked up

1958
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:05,800
Speaker 1: the way I talked to n Eyes because I talked

1959
01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:09,000
Speaker 1: to n Eyes and I told him I wanted him

1960
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 1: to own his masters and I wanted him to do this.

1961
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 1: As Erv's exact words was, yes, want to think about Africa.

1962
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 1: You don't want to go to Africa? What's that true? Damn?

1963
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: Look I can tell her this, and I looked. I

1964
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:34,240
Speaker 1: was like I was, I said, it's funny what you're saying,

1965
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 1: I swear to God, murdering office by a mistake. I'm

1966
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:42,480
Speaker 1: just there, just happened to be there and then and

1967
01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 1: this is IRV got exact words he said. You scared

1968
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 1: him off. He'll never come with you, guys. Earth is

1969
01:59:49,000 --> 02:00:02,080
Speaker 1: just over the top. Just get control, you know, he's

1970
02:00:02,160 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 1: not waiting stuff where we want to go. We ready.

1971
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:18,920
Speaker 1: He's like, there's certain rappers that I think would have

1972
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:24,160
Speaker 1: been way better and our guys than rappers. Fat y'all.

1973
02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:35,320
Speaker 1: J Nori Datt's the French Montana right now. If these

1974
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 1: guys were executives, like oh fine, like crazy Bust in

1975
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:45,160
Speaker 1: her Arms, fine hit records, No Bust of Ryde Fine hits.

1976
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:51,160
Speaker 1: Fucking fat Joe find Articulus was the best for the

1977
02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:55,080
Speaker 1: best in our guys period. But nobody knows that because

1978
02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:57,760
Speaker 1: he's trying to make the record himself. He gained the

1979
02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 1: record of somebody else. That's crazy, you, my friend. Yes,

1980
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:08,840
Speaker 1: but I'm finding the media outlet right now. I'm running

1981
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 1: media right now. I just want to throw that out.

1982
02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:17,440
Speaker 1: You know, I was always mad at you on TV.

1983
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:22,880
Speaker 1: What old school we're going on somewhere deep? These fans

1984
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 1: are real hardcore fans. You know what what you're saying

1985
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 1: about Mad for TV. They might be in your yeah Swiss,

1986
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:36,520
Speaker 1: but thank you everyone. I was really upset that you

1987
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:39,800
Speaker 1: didn't really bring them. You wrapped last one, that you

1988
02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 1: were supposed to go crazy. That's when that back then

1989
02:01:43,080 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 1: wrapping last Yes, and you you think I don't even

1990
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:50,920
Speaker 1: for a minute. This is why I we're gonna have

1991
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 1: Bee forget. You gotta relaxed TIMEV versus No. That's because

1992
02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:05,400
Speaker 1: something you he wasn't living talk no nature shoulder. Listen,

1993
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 1: let me just tell you you you described the story. Now,

1994
02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:12,200
Speaker 1: let me just tell you what I took Nature session at.

1995
02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm leaving Old Nature. That had that best not the

1996
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:18,720
Speaker 1: best verse, he had the best. I still feel like

1997
02:02:18,760 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 1: I had the best verse, but I let him lead

1998
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 1: it on. Do not you have the best verse on

1999
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:28,000
Speaker 1: Band for TV? I had the best verse in my opinion.

2000
02:02:28,040 --> 02:02:31,280
Speaker 1: This is what I do know. Opinions is always been opinions. Right,

2001
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:33,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna have it. So you think Nature had the

2002
02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:37,160
Speaker 1: best verse, I'm welcome to you saying your body pun

2003
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:41,600
Speaker 1: ain't saying that, nobody. I don't look at records like

2004
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:44,640
Speaker 1: verses on that record, so I'm looking at it as

2005
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 1: a great record. I look at it as a great record,

2006
02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 1: But twenty years later, I'm probably the only artist that's

2007
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:52,920
Speaker 1: on that record that's still performing that besides Jada and Styles.

2008
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:57,320
Speaker 1: That's it. I think I think Cam moved on. Fun

2009
02:02:57,400 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 1: it's not alive. I think Nature not active, and I

2010
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:06,480
Speaker 1: think I mean, that's my brother. But listen how I

2011
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 1: broke that down. I'm the only artist that's on that

2012
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:12,680
Speaker 1: record that's still quality performing it. Besides the Lives. I

2013
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 1: think Cam moved on because Camera's on that record, Big

2014
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 1: pun is passed away, right, Nate is not as active

2015
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:23,400
Speaker 1: as all the other people that's on that record. And

2016
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:25,960
Speaker 1: then so who so who you have the best verse? Well,

2017
02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:31,600
Speaker 1: that's great that you did. Like I was the only

2018
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:37,840
Speaker 1: guy that said who who is here? Sometimes listen, listen

2019
02:03:38,040 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 1: CEE CEE. I learned from CNN. See I I had

2020
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 1: an album prior to n R E and that album

2021
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:48,920
Speaker 1: was the super lyrical Who was most lyrical? All that?

2022
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:52,280
Speaker 1: That that ship that Niggers wanted. But then I realized

2023
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 1: when I got with a guy, he had a little

2024
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:59,240
Speaker 1: chain on like this, he had a choker and I

2025
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:03,280
Speaker 1: looked at it. He said to me, nobody listens to

2026
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:08,840
Speaker 1: me who said that his name for. He said to me,

2027
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:12,000
Speaker 1: nobody listens to me, Nori and his ship was like this.

2028
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:14,200
Speaker 1: It was very it was it was it was very

2029
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 1: like it's uncomfortable. You know. We was in the Battny

2030
02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:25,120
Speaker 1: Supra cross Color and ship like that. I you know,

2031
02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:30,280
Speaker 1: it was like it was after that and that he

2032
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:32,720
Speaker 1: was the only producer that he said to me, he said,

2033
02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:35,480
Speaker 1: nobody listens to me. And for some reason, I had

2034
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:38,040
Speaker 1: the number one record in r E was the number

2035
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:40,520
Speaker 1: one record in New York at that time. I didn't

2036
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:42,920
Speaker 1: have to listen to this guy. He said, I'm gonna

2037
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 1: winger to a world that nobody else is gonna go.

2038
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:49,880
Speaker 1: And I did that, and this guy comes out to

2039
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:55,040
Speaker 1: be for real Williams. Of people, a lot of people

2040
02:04:55,200 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 1: you you can, you can, you can whatever you want.

2041
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:00,840
Speaker 1: A lot of people say the we what the world

2042
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:04,160
Speaker 1: knows for real, it's because of that Superdug record. Can

2043
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:10,160
Speaker 1: you say that as a producer, I love Superdub Is

2044
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:12,480
Speaker 1: that an answer? But was that like the first record

2045
02:05:12,640 --> 02:05:16,280
Speaker 1: that people recognize for real was that I don't mind

2046
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:23,200
Speaker 1: the practicing style and the super they put the calisse

2047
02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:28,200
Speaker 1: on the No. We all thought that no, way. The

2048
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:31,600
Speaker 1: police wasn't even around with him, with him him on

2049
02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:34,720
Speaker 1: top of the singing, it was no one seen. That

2050
02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:38,680
Speaker 1: sound was definitely different. No, the sound. No, I'm gonna

2051
02:05:38,680 --> 02:05:40,920
Speaker 1: tell you coming from Miami and DJ from Miami. The

2052
02:05:41,080 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 1: sound the difference was is it? It had the beat

2053
02:05:44,680 --> 02:05:47,680
Speaker 1: that the South could relate. How long were you DJ

2054
02:05:47,840 --> 02:05:52,160
Speaker 1: in Miami? I mean I started about Company nine three,

2055
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:55,840
Speaker 1: and I was I used to come down here. I wasn't.

2056
02:05:55,880 --> 02:05:59,200
Speaker 1: How can I go down convention that I used to

2057
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:01,840
Speaker 1: come down here. I used to go to the club

2058
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:05,800
Speaker 1: on Fifth Liquid No no, no, no, no, no, no,

2059
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:09,120
Speaker 1: no no. I did his first showing solo show in Miami.

2060
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 1: He going before that? No, I mean that might be

2061
02:06:13,400 --> 02:06:16,240
Speaker 1: before my time. I'm forty two years old. Just that

2062
02:06:16,360 --> 02:06:19,840
Speaker 1: far I used to come down here. Man, were years

2063
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:24,360
Speaker 1: more years it was me, DJ E and DJ Kalin.

2064
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 1: That's that's the time I used to come to Miami.

2065
02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:35,960
Speaker 1: In two three, Collin's Avenue was a ghost town. Yeah

2066
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 1: you couldn't. Yeah, it was irrelevant. In the beach. Forget

2067
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:42,560
Speaker 1: that part I'm talking about. It was a ghost time

2068
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:46,360
Speaker 1: for human beings. Yeah no, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.

2069
02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:50,960
Speaker 1: The beach was hood Tait radio. That's what I did,

2070
02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:53,520
Speaker 1: would break records down that I did Pie Radio and

2071
02:06:53,600 --> 02:07:00,520
Speaker 1: then I got I did the mixt djum Iris relaxed

2072
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:03,440
Speaker 1: than me. But that's my homie. They used to break

2073
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:06,320
Speaker 1: breakings down here, man, this is this is the guy like,

2074
02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:10,320
Speaker 1: that's what I did. That's what he did. Man. Yeah,

2075
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:14,440
Speaker 1: of course I know that. Man, my cousin, you kick

2076
02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:22,720
Speaker 1: the out come on man. You he likes come out

2077
02:07:22,720 --> 02:07:25,400
Speaker 1: all the time. Man like still wants to go come

2078
02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:28,960
Speaker 1: down down. He's the final guy like. You got no

2079
02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:31,800
Speaker 1: problem for you to say. Ask anybody. They're gonna tell

2080
02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:33,480
Speaker 1: you that. That's what I was doing. I had to

2081
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 1: ask anybody, like, I know my man Tony shot. I

2082
02:07:36,840 --> 02:07:40,560
Speaker 1: feel I feel that so great. I know my man

2083
02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:44,160
Speaker 1: ton was like, ask anybody about me in that studio.

2084
02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:47,040
Speaker 1: I lays it down. That's anybody that's the best of

2085
02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:51,640
Speaker 1: the best. That's how best. He don't talk like that,

2086
02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:55,400
Speaker 1: but I'm talking for him. Yo, you just said ask anybody.

2087
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:59,440
Speaker 1: I know how you feel. But when they let let

2088
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:02,440
Speaker 1: me ask you something, I'm sorry. Stop when they talk

2089
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:08,240
Speaker 1: about top five producing all the time, and when sometimes

2090
02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:10,360
Speaker 1: they leave you off that list. They just asked you.

2091
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:13,400
Speaker 1: Jay just asked you last week, were you better than

2092
02:08:13,440 --> 02:08:18,680
Speaker 1: a hit man? Absolutely saying the bad Boy hits Bad Boy.

2093
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah that ship I mean, yeah, guys, that my man

2094
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:31,840
Speaker 1: as well. Just answer the question. We need you to get,

2095
02:08:35,720 --> 02:08:40,520
Speaker 1: you need to put you think I want to have

2096
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:44,960
Speaker 1: you interview another artist. That would be because talking about

2097
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:47,720
Speaker 1: this is what I think about track Mass birthday. I

2098
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:51,880
Speaker 1: think that before. I feel like the Neptune is like

2099
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:54,720
Speaker 1: everybody knows all. I feel like track Masses was the

2100
02:08:54,880 --> 02:09:00,920
Speaker 1: first like famous producer duo in hip hop like Terry

2101
02:09:01,240 --> 02:09:06,200
Speaker 1: Terry and Jammie Jay. What was you? Guys? Are that

2102
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:10,560
Speaker 1: for hip hop first? That's all Steves market. Steve took

2103
02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:14,880
Speaker 1: out ads and bill board for for producers. I was

2104
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:19,960
Speaker 1: buying full pages bro full page ads and Jill Boyd.

2105
02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:25,800
Speaker 1: You guys don't even know the type of psycho you said,

2106
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:29,360
Speaker 1: being calm. No, no, no, you could be as calm

2107
02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:31,160
Speaker 1: as you want. You don't see what we do. We put.

2108
02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:34,920
Speaker 1: We put our faces on things, are canvases right there

2109
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,400
Speaker 1: in the wall to be home, you know, just to

2110
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 1: promote ourselves because of you, because what are we gonna

2111
02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:48,840
Speaker 1: look at ourselves now? Was? Who was who was that first? Being?

2112
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:53,280
Speaker 1: Like when we bod when you said I want you

2113
02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:54,520
Speaker 1: know what it is. I ain't gonna lie to you.

2114
02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 1: I didn't. I can talk for so long about so

2115
02:09:59,800 --> 02:10:02,480
Speaker 1: many things that it can't even it won't even make

2116
02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:04,440
Speaker 1: any sense. It will be out of context. You can't

2117
02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:10,160
Speaker 1: nothing about said. I could have Kobe Bryant and Lebron

2118
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:12,840
Speaker 1: James and do a separate sports version of this and

2119
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:14,600
Speaker 1: don't turn you to see Nick jay Z. And that's

2120
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:19,120
Speaker 1: what's saying about me. I do my thing to the

2121
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:24,560
Speaker 1: maximum or all levels. That's my problem. When I get involved,

2122
02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:27,720
Speaker 1: I go all out, whether it be produces, whether it

2123
02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:32,960
Speaker 1: be artists, whether it be athletes. I wasn't the one

2124
02:10:33,080 --> 02:10:38,000
Speaker 1: thing all the funk out. That's my problem. That's queens,

2125
02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:46,520
Speaker 1: that's that's whatever it is. The first person, really like

2126
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:48,760
Speaker 1: the Nickel who told me to business was a guy

2127
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:54,040
Speaker 1: named no Face. Mark Ski. Yeah, he had he had

2128
02:10:54,080 --> 02:11:00,120
Speaker 1: a group called b w P Business Problems. Mark. He

2129
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:04,640
Speaker 1: took me to No he took me to um it's

2130
02:11:04,720 --> 02:11:08,920
Speaker 1: after before after after he kind of bitches flipping on

2131
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:12,879
Speaker 1: like and he took me down to the ship in Atlanta.

2132
02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:16,440
Speaker 1: Mark Ski, he was so talented, it's so so smart.

2133
02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:19,080
Speaker 1: He used to tell me how talented shot G was

2134
02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:23,120
Speaker 1: Flavor Flavor could play the piano. It was like he

2135
02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:25,440
Speaker 1: would just like get me there. And I was still

2136
02:11:25,440 --> 02:11:29,440
Speaker 1: living at home with my parents, and I just was.

2137
02:11:29,680 --> 02:11:32,880
Speaker 1: I was just ready. And the one thing he always

2138
02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:35,480
Speaker 1: made me realize I had to know was if you

2139
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:37,960
Speaker 1: knew an artist, what label were they on? If I

2140
02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:40,000
Speaker 1: ever ask you an artist and you don't know label

2141
02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:43,320
Speaker 1: L on, I'll never return your phone call. So you

2142
02:11:43,360 --> 02:11:45,160
Speaker 1: guysn't an artists have to know a label like one

2143
02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:49,160
Speaker 1: who produced the song? Who? That's why I'm so fucking

2144
02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:54,160
Speaker 1: hip hop fluid, because I just know everything. I just

2145
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:56,960
Speaker 1: I spent the time if I didn't know it. It

2146
02:11:57,080 --> 02:11:59,960
Speaker 1: feels like if I don't know the facts around something,

2147
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:03,120
Speaker 1: you don't think that's an error thing. Though maybe I

2148
02:12:03,200 --> 02:12:07,760
Speaker 1: think the error tape and CD we we all read

2149
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:17,240
Speaker 1: the credits shot him down no more, No Jesus, you

2150
02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:21,880
Speaker 1: got him life. I don't know why we didn't. She left.

2151
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:29,800
Speaker 1: She was tired. I know she was tired. Okay, listen, um,

2152
02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:33,840
Speaker 1: while we're hearing her, yes, a lot of you you're

2153
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:40,360
Speaker 1: talking about, Yes, why didn't he shine baked in the business?

2154
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:44,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, yeah, never mind that he got

2155
02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:51,200
Speaker 1: went in and unded. But he I thought he everybody

2156
02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,960
Speaker 1: loved him, but no one, everybody, nobody loves this a

2157
02:12:55,000 --> 02:13:00,240
Speaker 1: trick question. The fact that Shine sounded like big but

2158
02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:07,480
Speaker 1: yeah as a DJ, even though the Barretting was a

2159
02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:10,040
Speaker 1: dope record, that he had the other record right, But

2160
02:13:10,240 --> 02:13:13,200
Speaker 1: I think that it was always like his achilles heel

2161
02:13:13,360 --> 02:13:17,040
Speaker 1: that he's that they introduced him as sounding like big

2162
02:13:17,080 --> 02:13:19,280
Speaker 1: and he's on bad boy. Had he not come out

2163
02:13:19,320 --> 02:13:24,800
Speaker 1: on Bastille, it was you know. But but if people

2164
02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:27,840
Speaker 1: say he goes the next day and the first one

2165
02:13:27,880 --> 02:13:31,400
Speaker 1: he people put outs are like, I love this ship, dope, dope,

2166
02:13:31,480 --> 02:13:33,400
Speaker 1: But I think he had as an let me let me,

2167
02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:36,920
Speaker 1: let me just interject for one second. I think that

2168
02:13:37,200 --> 02:13:43,760
Speaker 1: Sean would have actually been like, like, you're damn. He

2169
02:13:43,880 --> 02:13:46,400
Speaker 1: was the next one. I think the next one when

2170
02:13:46,440 --> 02:13:48,560
Speaker 1: he came home. Is that what he's saying. And when

2171
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:52,320
Speaker 1: he came home he could have been like super huge.

2172
02:13:52,760 --> 02:13:56,320
Speaker 1: But what happened was Kylie rushed that verse. Remember when

2173
02:13:56,400 --> 02:13:59,760
Speaker 1: Sean came home and Callie put him on a record, klige,

2174
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:03,200
Speaker 1: nobody here, nobody knows what you're talking. No, no, no, listen,

2175
02:14:03,280 --> 02:14:07,080
Speaker 1: listen it's what happened was, Oh yeah, I remember, I remember,

2176
02:14:07,080 --> 02:14:09,680
Speaker 1: I remember. What happened was he came out high cool,

2177
02:14:09,720 --> 02:14:13,120
Speaker 1: he caught a case. Yeah he can listen. Listen, listen, listen, No, no, no,

2178
02:14:13,280 --> 02:14:15,200
Speaker 1: and then it was a bad verse. It was really

2179
02:14:15,240 --> 02:14:19,440
Speaker 1: a big quarter case. He he went away. His anticipatient

2180
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:22,640
Speaker 1: home was like shield night. It was his first verse

2181
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:27,400
Speaker 1: was terrible. No I did that, you didn't feeling to

2182
02:14:27,440 --> 02:14:33,840
Speaker 1: be honest, it wasn't your No, he wasn't. She said,

2183
02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:37,000
Speaker 1: he good stout, good stound. You said he rushed it. No,

2184
02:14:37,160 --> 02:14:40,000
Speaker 1: but the worst it threw everybody or it was his voice,

2185
02:14:40,040 --> 02:14:44,560
Speaker 1: tempo wasn't as the same, It was off. It was dope.

2186
02:14:44,600 --> 02:14:47,880
Speaker 1: But because like us, you to tell what happen. No, no,

2187
02:14:48,040 --> 02:14:50,160
Speaker 1: dispout the cology all up because I made he said.

2188
02:14:50,240 --> 02:14:52,120
Speaker 1: What you're saying, No, no, you don't know when he

2189
02:14:52,200 --> 02:14:53,920
Speaker 1: found him like bigger than when he came back on

2190
02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:58,240
Speaker 1: some voice. Listen that what you're saying this, listen, listen.

2191
02:14:58,280 --> 02:15:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. If I would have

2192
02:15:00,600 --> 02:15:04,320
Speaker 1: came home with big same voice as he had prior

2193
02:15:04,440 --> 02:15:07,160
Speaker 1: to that, if he would have came home with that voice,

2194
02:15:07,520 --> 02:15:09,560
Speaker 1: he would have been a new two problem. No, I don't.

2195
02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:11,680
Speaker 1: I think you're wrong. He would have been somewhere around

2196
02:15:11,760 --> 02:15:13,760
Speaker 1: that range. No, No, you know I'm trusting me. I'm

2197
02:15:13,760 --> 02:15:16,640
Speaker 1: a correct What you're saying is is that it's not

2198
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:19,280
Speaker 1: that he sounded dope and he sounded like big and

2199
02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:22,720
Speaker 1: then we don't accept him. Well, I'm trying to get

2200
02:15:22,760 --> 02:15:26,200
Speaker 1: to him this. No, no, no, what happened to him?

2201
02:15:26,920 --> 02:15:29,840
Speaker 1: People liked his music. He did nothing wrong. He just

2202
02:15:29,880 --> 02:15:32,440
Speaker 1: didn't see to do nothing. No, when he came home,

2203
02:15:32,600 --> 02:15:35,720
Speaker 1: he had to he had to be deported. But you

2204
02:15:35,800 --> 02:15:38,840
Speaker 1: gotta I can tell you this. First religion came into

2205
02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:41,800
Speaker 1: players as being a part of a legendary group called

2206
02:15:41,840 --> 02:15:46,960
Speaker 1: Compona Noriega. Compona Noriega has five hundred thousands every year

2207
02:15:47,280 --> 02:15:50,840
Speaker 1: in Europe. Every year. All we gotta do, it's spend

2208
02:15:50,920 --> 02:15:54,680
Speaker 1: thirty days a year. But at some point in certain

2209
02:15:54,720 --> 02:15:58,520
Speaker 1: parts of Europe it is terrible. It's freezing like shit.

2210
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:02,480
Speaker 1: So you would go there and you would get how

2211
02:16:02,520 --> 02:16:05,200
Speaker 1: do you smoke me? And your eyes are right? Because

2212
02:16:05,240 --> 02:16:08,720
Speaker 1: because I'm your friends, teach, I want I wanted to

2213
02:16:08,760 --> 02:16:10,560
Speaker 1: be your friend for so long. I just want to

2214
02:16:10,760 --> 02:16:13,440
Speaker 1: keep my life together because I just want to get

2215
02:16:13,480 --> 02:16:15,640
Speaker 1: more money. I just want and I feel like I

2216
02:16:15,720 --> 02:16:17,840
Speaker 1: feel like I've leaved that flag to now. I gotta

2217
02:16:18,440 --> 02:16:21,120
Speaker 1: I gotta be like you gotta help me in some way,

2218
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:24,000
Speaker 1: take more safe, safe from more presidents somewhere. I need

2219
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:27,400
Speaker 1: to start wearing white suits at some point, you know,

2220
02:16:27,480 --> 02:16:30,240
Speaker 1: I need to do like you gotta give me rap class.

2221
02:16:30,440 --> 02:16:33,680
Speaker 1: You gotta give me somewhere somewhere I could. I gotta

2222
02:16:33,720 --> 02:16:36,600
Speaker 1: who else? You said something about Jim Jones. Jim Jones

2223
02:16:36,640 --> 02:16:40,600
Speaker 1: is a great producer. If Jim Jones had an artist

2224
02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:43,960
Speaker 1: in different music in front of him, I had to

2225
02:16:44,120 --> 02:16:47,279
Speaker 1: put the artists in music. Look how many artists introduce

2226
02:16:47,600 --> 02:16:51,920
Speaker 1: Max B Jim Jones is dumb? J Jones I just

2227
02:16:52,000 --> 02:16:57,160
Speaker 1: don't get along with him. It always happens like that.

2228
02:16:57,160 --> 02:16:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't care about that part, and I go through

2229
02:16:59,520 --> 02:17:05,840
Speaker 1: that part like, first of all, for me, I know

2230
02:17:05,959 --> 02:17:12,120
Speaker 1: would suit Fifty's talented? Oh god, is he talented? He's

2231
02:17:12,160 --> 02:17:17,199
Speaker 1: that talented rapper writer, He's talented. Didn't Jones is talented?

2232
02:17:17,480 --> 02:17:20,560
Speaker 1: Like you just mean? Not like Nas and jay z h.

2233
02:17:20,959 --> 02:17:23,200
Speaker 1: The problem with rap music was it mean if you

2234
02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:27,160
Speaker 1: were if you weren't a talented rapper, then everybody else

2235
02:17:27,280 --> 02:17:29,640
Speaker 1: was like fake versions of them. And the truth of

2236
02:17:29,680 --> 02:17:32,040
Speaker 1: the matter is there's so much talent that the art

2237
02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:37,000
Speaker 1: form and like with jay Z and NAS do specifically

2238
02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:46,680
Speaker 1: are words fifty is Vince McMahon, Yeah, he's Vince McMahon.

2239
02:17:47,280 --> 02:17:52,920
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon is the best. Vince McMahon. It's so good

2240
02:17:54,080 --> 02:17:58,000
Speaker 1: that when he actually happied and tried to make the NFL,

2241
02:17:59,480 --> 02:18:01,600
Speaker 1: if you look at the camera angles that they copped

2242
02:18:01,680 --> 02:18:08,240
Speaker 1: that they did, that's what the NFL uses now. Vince McMahon. Overhead,

2243
02:18:08,600 --> 02:18:12,080
Speaker 1: the overhead Kim Vincent man invented that. But we're watching

2244
02:18:12,120 --> 02:18:14,920
Speaker 1: the NFL every day. When he started that bullshit football

2245
02:18:15,000 --> 02:18:18,480
Speaker 1: league that no one watched, it was terrible, but he

2246
02:18:18,600 --> 02:18:21,720
Speaker 1: produced the ship out of an idea that's fifty cent.

2247
02:18:23,240 --> 02:18:29,600
Speaker 1: Fifty cent is ridiculously talented a thing. Jim Jones is

2248
02:18:29,640 --> 02:18:34,000
Speaker 1: talented at a thing. When you put Jim Jones, Nas, fifty,

2249
02:18:34,760 --> 02:18:39,280
Speaker 1: all these guys together, as you talk about culture, if

2250
02:18:39,360 --> 02:18:43,280
Speaker 1: they weren't make a product, it would be Disney. These

2251
02:18:43,320 --> 02:18:47,560
Speaker 1: guys are crazy. It's just that everybody is so separated

2252
02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:49,879
Speaker 1: that these things don't come together. You don't put the writer,

2253
02:18:50,360 --> 02:18:55,119
Speaker 1: the animator, the storyteller anything together. But if you ever

2254
02:18:55,200 --> 02:18:57,320
Speaker 1: put them together, so it's like a lack of team,

2255
02:18:57,840 --> 02:19:01,440
Speaker 1: how to fucking thing Batman would happen? That's not one guy,

2256
02:19:03,320 --> 02:19:06,240
Speaker 1: that's five guys together saying this guy listen to this

2257
02:19:06,440 --> 02:19:09,320
Speaker 1: house got from city and the fucking thing up in

2258
02:19:09,360 --> 02:19:14,080
Speaker 1: the sky that took the five guys. But it rap me.

2259
02:19:14,320 --> 02:19:17,200
Speaker 1: Those five guys can't talk to each other because one

2260
02:19:17,240 --> 02:19:19,320
Speaker 1: guy's making money doing this. That not so you don't

2261
02:19:19,320 --> 02:19:24,000
Speaker 1: funk with each That's fun, It's right. I've lived a

2262
02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:29,440
Speaker 1: bit species on drink chaps in my life. That's listen.

2263
02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm visualizing what he's saying. I'm your I gotta sleep

2264
02:19:38,800 --> 02:19:43,920
Speaker 1: that night. I gotta deal with myself. What about praying?

2265
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:46,160
Speaker 1: How about me praying for me? I gotta go to

2266
02:19:46,200 --> 02:19:49,560
Speaker 1: sleep and know this ain't wait too smart like we

2267
02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:54,760
Speaker 1: a d D that ship you just said, like and

2268
02:19:54,879 --> 02:19:57,520
Speaker 1: you gotta sleep with yourself. You wait too smart, ste

2269
02:19:58,280 --> 02:20:01,880
Speaker 1: keep get I get why he's rich and everything, but

2270
02:20:02,400 --> 02:20:05,480
Speaker 1: that they can figure out life. A boy happened like

2271
02:20:05,760 --> 02:20:11,320
Speaker 1: damn stuff tomorrow is gonna yo, I know I did

2272
02:20:11,360 --> 02:20:13,920
Speaker 1: this stupid that like like like like you know that

2273
02:20:13,959 --> 02:20:16,640
Speaker 1: what's the ship conspiracy? Um, the ship with Tom there

2274
02:20:16,720 --> 02:20:21,760
Speaker 1: actually another question, ain't going on like that rock him

2275
02:20:21,800 --> 02:20:27,760
Speaker 1: him and the rock him Ray Kuam, Where does ray

2276
02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:32,280
Speaker 1: Kwan said? He's a great I think one of the best,

2277
02:20:33,320 --> 02:20:35,840
Speaker 1: honest with he goes down and he's still I think

2278
02:20:35,879 --> 02:20:40,840
Speaker 1: he's one of them past Beanie. I ain't think that far.

2279
02:20:40,959 --> 02:20:46,520
Speaker 1: But okay, Jade the kiss past that, he's past that

2280
02:20:47,040 --> 02:20:52,040
Speaker 1: in that group. Yeah, but when we say nah, it's

2281
02:20:52,040 --> 02:20:56,600
Speaker 1: just disrespectful. Yeah. If you're ask every rap about nas

2282
02:20:56,640 --> 02:21:00,120
Speaker 1: and jas, he's like, yeah, that's cool. I think who

2283
02:21:00,200 --> 02:21:03,400
Speaker 1: they all? But elite leads start coming off of that

2284
02:21:03,640 --> 02:21:06,240
Speaker 1: thing in the league. Who's the guy who's the one

2285
02:21:06,480 --> 02:21:11,240
Speaker 1: end Kanye? And then let me this is why it's

2286
02:21:11,280 --> 02:21:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna get very controversy right now. Lyrics wise, listen non stop.

2287
02:21:17,480 --> 02:21:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm talking about lyrics. I'm not thinking it's a different day.

2288
02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:25,600
Speaker 1: Did you saying started, because the thing that is everything

2289
02:21:25,680 --> 02:21:29,280
Speaker 1: started and started? Count Okay, okay, all right, So now

2290
02:21:29,280 --> 02:21:32,080
Speaker 1: I need to understand your questions. So you're saying greatest

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02:21:32,160 --> 02:21:36,880
Speaker 1: of all times lyrics? Again, lyrics, I don't want let's

2292
02:21:36,879 --> 02:21:42,160
Speaker 1: move for no, no, we started start good. It's not

2293
02:21:42,360 --> 02:21:47,160
Speaker 1: good for girls. I gotta be careful. Yeah, no, I'm

2294
02:21:47,160 --> 02:21:49,120
Speaker 1: gonna begin. You know what it is, drink Champ. You

2295
02:21:49,160 --> 02:21:52,240
Speaker 1: guys gotta get other people, but then they need to

2296
02:21:52,320 --> 02:21:55,360
Speaker 1: come and defend the time. I know nother thing about it.

2297
02:21:56,560 --> 02:21:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something.

2298
02:21:58,800 --> 02:22:03,600
Speaker 1: I am not literally. Oh, don't nobody pay me. I

2299
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:06,960
Speaker 1: always said on drink Champs and you could recalled this

2300
02:22:07,360 --> 02:22:12,640
Speaker 1: am I said that for young record. Here's the crazy

2301
02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:16,840
Speaker 1: shit for young people. Because we had first started with CBS,

2302
02:22:16,920 --> 02:22:19,920
Speaker 1: Big up CBS. We have no problem with their no

2303
02:22:20,040 --> 02:22:22,960
Speaker 1: longer CBS. We are no longer than CBS, but they

2304
02:22:23,040 --> 02:22:28,720
Speaker 1: are no longer CBS, were longer CBS. Yeah. Well yeah,

2305
02:22:28,800 --> 02:22:31,200
Speaker 1: but let's know, who's say something. Well it sounds confusing,

2306
02:22:31,240 --> 02:22:35,840
Speaker 1: but go ahead, let's playing in the second they gave us.

2307
02:22:36,040 --> 02:22:47,160
Speaker 1: We're multiple deals. We got our lives, the cameras, whole

2308
02:22:47,240 --> 02:22:52,360
Speaker 1: pot friend was stop did so? Look so the thing

2309
02:22:52,440 --> 02:22:57,600
Speaker 1: about it, you got that Johnny Blue though never you

2310
02:22:57,720 --> 02:23:00,760
Speaker 1: know what kinds that I'm not supposed to take a

2311
02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:04,240
Speaker 1: shot of that because you took Johnny Blue is so smooth.

2312
02:23:04,600 --> 02:23:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm in, I'm not here, I'm in. I'm sorry. Pfro

2313
02:23:07,720 --> 02:23:15,320
Speaker 1: be very happy brand, he's distributed everything. Would he be

2314
02:23:15,440 --> 02:23:21,760
Speaker 1: happy it's a family brand? Guys, listen, how far you

2315
02:23:21,800 --> 02:23:25,160
Speaker 1: would go to this conversation as far as this is

2316
02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:27,160
Speaker 1: what we do at drink chat and listen, let me

2317
02:23:27,200 --> 02:23:28,640
Speaker 1: tell you something? Is that? But I don't bring up

2318
02:23:28,680 --> 02:23:31,280
Speaker 1: this is that audible? Gonna take that anything? I feel

2319
02:23:31,320 --> 02:23:35,240
Speaker 1: like you went away from you were saying about. Let

2320
02:23:35,280 --> 02:23:37,360
Speaker 1: me tell you something? What does that mean that? Listen?

2321
02:23:37,840 --> 02:23:42,800
Speaker 1: Fucking change. I started losing class when I started out here.

2322
02:23:43,240 --> 02:23:53,160
Speaker 1: It's okay as he started to be in Spanish. Don't

2323
02:23:54,200 --> 02:24:01,119
Speaker 1: all but stout like you've been the guy to sit

2324
02:24:01,240 --> 02:24:04,400
Speaker 1: that because because let me just let me just pick

2325
02:24:04,440 --> 02:24:06,960
Speaker 1: you up for one second, so please, please, can I

2326
02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:09,680
Speaker 1: pick that song? Let me get this forman like the

2327
02:24:09,800 --> 02:24:13,800
Speaker 1: thing is I need? This is just taking the wor

2328
02:24:14,240 --> 02:24:15,800
Speaker 1: I'll take a shot of that with you. Should I

2329
02:24:15,840 --> 02:24:19,680
Speaker 1: take a shot that with you? Because you drink blue.

2330
02:24:20,640 --> 02:24:22,560
Speaker 1: I think it's time. I think it's how I'll take

2331
02:24:22,560 --> 02:24:26,400
Speaker 1: a shot with Okay, I'm talking about that. I'll do it.

2332
02:24:26,760 --> 02:24:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. Here was the guys, Listen,

2333
02:24:31,280 --> 02:24:34,080
Speaker 1: I have to please, I need everybody to sit back

2334
02:24:34,320 --> 02:24:38,199
Speaker 1: and relax. I don't see and The thing about Stoup

2335
02:24:38,480 --> 02:24:42,840
Speaker 1: is no stop, I gotta big you up. You recognize

2336
02:24:42,920 --> 02:24:46,440
Speaker 1: hip hop was was We were on the new rocking

2337
02:24:46,640 --> 02:24:50,560
Speaker 1: roll in my opinion, Can you let me pick you

2338
02:24:50,680 --> 02:24:53,800
Speaker 1: up please? Sorry, sir. I felt like you knew hip

2339
02:24:53,840 --> 02:24:58,080
Speaker 1: hop was the new rock row. And you got behind

2340
02:24:58,600 --> 02:25:06,160
Speaker 1: the two biggest. You got behind guns and roses. He

2341
02:25:06,320 --> 02:25:09,400
Speaker 1: wasn't ball with guns of roses. No, I'm getting an

2342
02:25:09,440 --> 02:25:14,560
Speaker 1: analogy as analogy, that's what people think. He drink that much.

2343
02:25:18,200 --> 02:25:25,080
Speaker 1: You got biggest people that we had. You had access

2344
02:25:25,160 --> 02:25:29,640
Speaker 1: to jay Z, you had access to Nas, and you

2345
02:25:29,800 --> 02:25:33,160
Speaker 1: got behind him and you pushed them in every for

2346
02:25:33,320 --> 02:25:37,120
Speaker 1: sure ever knew. Sure does it call? What's shout at

2347
02:25:37,160 --> 02:25:40,480
Speaker 1: my ticket? It's a Johnny Blue. We just said, all right,

2348
02:25:43,040 --> 02:25:45,960
Speaker 1: chat me down. You can tell us back in right,

2349
02:25:46,320 --> 02:25:48,400
Speaker 1: good tell. I would expect to show that I just

2350
02:25:48,440 --> 02:25:51,520
Speaker 1: wanted to get money with you four years ago. That's

2351
02:25:51,520 --> 02:25:55,480
Speaker 1: got working out for me. That's not workingna, that's right, smoothing,

2352
02:25:55,680 --> 02:26:00,560
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, I'm drinking because Johnny moved to give

2353
02:26:00,600 --> 02:26:03,720
Speaker 1: it to everybody. Come on, you take me around, guys,

2354
02:26:04,120 --> 02:26:07,120
Speaker 1: have a big time. It's gonna be honest. It's a

2355
02:26:07,160 --> 02:26:11,800
Speaker 1: great Johnny Blue. I love you guys. It's very stronger

2356
02:26:11,800 --> 02:26:15,840
Speaker 1: than I thought it was. It's very sloot. I think

2357
02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:20,280
Speaker 1: Johnny Blue should be part of this. Just tell just

2358
02:26:20,360 --> 02:26:22,400
Speaker 1: having it, it's no big deal. No, you should tell

2359
02:26:22,440 --> 02:26:26,120
Speaker 1: a little, tell us you will. Let's do what you got.

2360
02:26:26,200 --> 02:26:38,160
Speaker 1: The guys with the rock hold you gotta mean the

2361
02:26:38,200 --> 02:26:44,000
Speaker 1: only obligators. What we do have? Grace's killer, y'all? Does

2362
02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:46,760
Speaker 1: it kill a lot of you guys? Are you guys

2363
02:26:46,840 --> 02:26:52,960
Speaker 1: have tacos? Yeah we should. Let's coming us out. We

2364
02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:55,959
Speaker 1: could tell you've been in rap games since kidding play

2365
02:26:56,400 --> 02:26:58,560
Speaker 1: because you are marinking after you. That's incredible, man, I

2366
02:26:59,840 --> 02:27:02,320
Speaker 1: think as incredible. What did I did my job or

2367
02:27:02,360 --> 02:27:10,320
Speaker 1: not getting as amazing is that I looked young. I've

2368
02:27:10,320 --> 02:27:13,720
Speaker 1: been doing well. No, it's not. I've been doing this

2369
02:27:13,800 --> 02:27:16,879
Speaker 1: since I was twenty one years old. All I've done

2370
02:27:16,959 --> 02:27:20,080
Speaker 1: is watch ship. All I do is watch artists go

2371
02:27:20,200 --> 02:27:22,800
Speaker 1: up and watch them fall off and watch them watch

2372
02:27:23,200 --> 02:27:25,640
Speaker 1: so that twenty one years off. That's how I feed

2373
02:27:25,720 --> 02:27:29,240
Speaker 1: my family. I don't have movie like. This's what I do.

2374
02:27:30,360 --> 02:27:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, talk to me. I'm not lying, and I'm

2375
02:27:35,240 --> 02:27:39,120
Speaker 1: not making anything up. Breath every ounce of it, and

2376
02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:41,520
Speaker 1: I won't stop. And as soon as it starts to

2377
02:27:41,600 --> 02:27:45,440
Speaker 1: feel like I'm like like I don't understand what's going

2378
02:27:45,520 --> 02:27:47,720
Speaker 1: on or some bullshit, I won't do it no more.

2379
02:27:48,120 --> 02:27:51,119
Speaker 1: I don't want I'm not corny. I'm not doing anything corny.

2380
02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm not a big guys thinking in the club doing

2381
02:27:54,879 --> 02:27:59,880
Speaker 1: dumb ship. Look at you that we could make that

2382
02:28:00,160 --> 02:28:02,920
Speaker 1: you ever gave an artist and like like like information,

2383
02:28:04,400 --> 02:28:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, that's awesome, you know, I'm great.

2384
02:28:08,640 --> 02:28:11,200
Speaker 1: Have you ever gave an artists like information? And you

2385
02:28:11,320 --> 02:28:21,320
Speaker 1: told him you gave artists? I'm good, I'm can see

2386
02:28:21,320 --> 02:28:24,560
Speaker 1: my own bit backwards, say I do. Actually, it's not

2387
02:28:24,640 --> 02:28:29,320
Speaker 1: gonna You ever ever gave some artists information and then

2388
02:28:30,200 --> 02:28:33,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't the thing like, and you're wrong,

2389
02:28:34,280 --> 02:28:37,160
Speaker 1: you were wrong. I'm gonna take fifty says this all

2390
02:28:37,160 --> 02:28:45,000
Speaker 1: the time. Fifty says it. Fifty says this. Um, I

2391
02:28:45,200 --> 02:28:52,200
Speaker 1: said to him he shouldn't sign uh Eminem's label. You

2392
02:28:52,280 --> 02:28:55,080
Speaker 1: said he shouldn't sign to Emine when he was signing there.

2393
02:28:55,400 --> 02:28:57,600
Speaker 1: What I was saying was if he was signing the

2394
02:28:57,720 --> 02:29:04,040
Speaker 1: death row, because it's yeah, yeah, what he was saying

2395
02:29:04,160 --> 02:29:10,600
Speaker 1: was fucking crazy and truthful and honest and hard. I

2396
02:29:10,720 --> 02:29:13,640
Speaker 1: didn't want him to get confused as this like guy

2397
02:29:14,320 --> 02:29:19,680
Speaker 1: who could have been slightly comical, because Eminem had what

2398
02:29:19,800 --> 02:29:24,200
Speaker 1: you felt shady was yeah, no, no, no, not a

2399
02:29:24,320 --> 02:29:28,720
Speaker 1: comical label, but just like a label that was great music.

2400
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:34,680
Speaker 1: But because for some reason, I mean, I don't think

2401
02:29:34,720 --> 02:29:38,360
Speaker 1: I can articulate it, but part of what they were

2402
02:29:38,440 --> 02:29:42,640
Speaker 1: doing that was like, it's just honest. It was this

2403
02:29:43,160 --> 02:29:47,440
Speaker 1: shock COALU and like, if Drake did it, it would

2404
02:29:47,480 --> 02:29:52,840
Speaker 1: be easy. And I was I was telling fifty be easy,

2405
02:29:53,959 --> 02:29:57,119
Speaker 1: You're easy. But he couldn't have been that for sure.

2406
02:29:57,600 --> 02:30:02,840
Speaker 1: Fifty cent is a hundred percent and he did. He

2407
02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:07,080
Speaker 1: did everything. He's a hard working But where do y'all

2408
02:30:07,160 --> 02:30:11,480
Speaker 1: go on the Masters Great Garden? We see the pictures? Yea,

2409
02:30:11,680 --> 02:30:14,320
Speaker 1: we were were you know what, We're wrong. We were

2410
02:30:14,440 --> 02:30:16,680
Speaker 1: wrong because I said that he didn't make a record

2411
02:30:16,720 --> 02:30:20,280
Speaker 1: of a long time. I was head and I said

2412
02:30:20,280 --> 02:30:22,480
Speaker 1: it on the radio station and something and he's seen it.

2413
02:30:22,840 --> 02:30:26,520
Speaker 1: You like that, so here talking to you at the

2414
02:30:26,600 --> 02:30:38,120
Speaker 1: nick game. Yeah that's right, because he talked I walking

2415
02:30:38,200 --> 02:30:41,400
Speaker 1: God's footsteps. I'm not afraid of nothing. Don't know what

2416
02:30:41,560 --> 02:30:43,680
Speaker 1: the thing about it. I'm not afraid. I don't. I'm not.

2417
02:30:44,160 --> 02:30:47,400
Speaker 1: It's the truth of the matter is It's not like

2418
02:30:47,480 --> 02:30:51,959
Speaker 1: I was surprised Puffy showed up in my office after

2419
02:30:52,040 --> 02:30:56,360
Speaker 1: hanging down. But he didn't show up. Four guys showed up.

2420
02:30:57,480 --> 02:30:59,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised. I'm not surprised. When to the Nick Game,

2421
02:31:00,040 --> 02:31:02,520
Speaker 1: that scene he was with me when I see I'm

2422
02:31:02,560 --> 02:31:07,040
Speaker 1: not afraid, he's I'm not afraid of things, but I'm not.

2423
02:31:07,160 --> 02:31:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of but this is accident. Different doesn't

2424
02:31:11,800 --> 02:31:14,600
Speaker 1: make a difference. But when guys start talking at we're

2425
02:31:14,640 --> 02:31:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna kill you this that bullshit. Okay, come on now,

2426
02:31:19,240 --> 02:31:22,959
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's how the business turns a problem

2427
02:31:23,120 --> 02:31:25,720
Speaker 1: into like the problem goes from this is the problem

2428
02:31:25,840 --> 02:31:28,080
Speaker 1: to the real problem is we're gonna kill you. Well,

2429
02:31:28,120 --> 02:31:35,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, like Okaya, stop saying we'll tell

2430
02:31:35,400 --> 02:31:37,280
Speaker 1: you they don't give you. That sounds like a lot

2431
02:31:37,320 --> 02:31:40,720
Speaker 1: of people I know it sounds like. And then when

2432
02:31:40,760 --> 02:31:45,040
Speaker 1: it sounds like kill you, this is all nobody says that.

2433
02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the underlying theme about beeface what happens

2434
02:31:49,640 --> 02:31:56,840
Speaker 1: if you lose true? Are you gonna die? All Sadden

2435
02:31:56,840 --> 02:32:00,879
Speaker 1: you guys understanding when I say one word, what the fund?

2436
02:32:00,959 --> 02:32:02,920
Speaker 1: Did you think I was saying? That was a lot

2437
02:32:03,000 --> 02:32:12,360
Speaker 1: of words. What you think it got at? Hopefully weird?

2438
02:32:13,680 --> 02:32:16,879
Speaker 1: I was waiting for the words. OK, it's okay, it's okay,

2439
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:21,480
Speaker 1: now stop stop style. I'm any businessman. I'm doing this

2440
02:32:21,480 --> 02:32:24,520
Speaker 1: ship in the high lovel, bro, I'm not working around

2441
02:32:24,600 --> 02:32:27,480
Speaker 1: doing this ship for rent. I'm doing this ship in

2442
02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:31,800
Speaker 1: the high lovel. I'm making millions. Yes, it's making a

2443
02:32:31,840 --> 02:32:35,840
Speaker 1: lot of money. I'm changing the way things happen. When

2444
02:32:35,879 --> 02:32:38,400
Speaker 1: you're in the front line, you gotta deal with frontline things.

2445
02:32:39,680 --> 02:32:45,520
Speaker 1: CEO wartime, Peace, wartime, CEO, peacetime CEO. I'm a CEO

2446
02:32:45,640 --> 02:32:50,520
Speaker 1: of war. Time in peacetime, it's peacetime is cool. It's

2447
02:32:50,600 --> 02:32:53,360
Speaker 1: one time. You gotta deal with those type of things.

2448
02:32:53,959 --> 02:32:56,440
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to deal with that. And I

2449
02:32:56,640 --> 02:33:00,920
Speaker 1: love those guys. I respect those guys. I respect those guys.

2450
02:33:01,120 --> 02:33:04,200
Speaker 1: I respect those guys. If it was some bullshit I

2451
02:33:04,280 --> 02:33:10,640
Speaker 1: didn't respect, I wouldn't care. I respect guys who I love.

2452
02:33:10,840 --> 02:33:14,960
Speaker 1: What Top Dogs doing mm hmm, I love it. On

2453
02:33:15,120 --> 02:33:18,160
Speaker 1: his own rules. This guy we're doing this. We're gonna

2454
02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:22,360
Speaker 1: lose this and you want how was it being the

2455
02:33:22,440 --> 02:33:27,480
Speaker 1: president in the school, because I can't move and describe

2456
02:33:27,760 --> 02:33:31,760
Speaker 1: how we looked at in the scope. I was the

2457
02:33:31,800 --> 02:33:36,760
Speaker 1: first rapt and signing the scrape. It was the first

2458
02:33:36,879 --> 02:33:40,000
Speaker 1: artist on it. You know I cane together before NaNs.

2459
02:33:41,640 --> 02:33:43,760
Speaker 1: I definitely did not know that he's schooling me, right.

2460
02:33:45,200 --> 02:33:46,960
Speaker 1: I can know I got to deal with a lot

2461
02:33:47,000 --> 02:33:48,560
Speaker 1: of a lot at the moment, because a lot of

2462
02:33:48,560 --> 02:33:54,560
Speaker 1: time table, because everybody got hooked on the re rate Cotty.

2463
02:33:55,520 --> 02:34:01,320
Speaker 1: That was the ship. Nobody even I'm learning keep you

2464
02:34:01,360 --> 02:34:08,480
Speaker 1: talking complete though everybody bought that no rhymes, oh hook

2465
02:34:08,959 --> 02:34:15,120
Speaker 1: be things. So I can only have a classic. I

2466
02:34:15,200 --> 02:34:20,680
Speaker 1: can know it's a grating amount that's really digging deep.

2467
02:34:21,040 --> 02:34:30,440
Speaker 1: No City Classic Classic. He was pulling bitches away. He's

2468
02:34:30,520 --> 02:34:38,520
Speaker 1: playing truth. I don't know, okay, how about this. I

2469
02:34:38,680 --> 02:34:45,360
Speaker 1: can really had Nas in the one D position. NAS

2470
02:34:45,400 --> 02:34:47,720
Speaker 1: couldn't get a deal. I can only got the deals.

2471
02:34:47,800 --> 02:34:50,280
Speaker 1: It just like, yeah, you know what, put my name

2472
02:34:50,280 --> 02:34:55,520
Speaker 1: and NAS on big Abaka. That's how fucked up things

2473
02:34:55,560 --> 02:35:01,080
Speaker 1: are when our phone gets so big, the money gets involved,

2474
02:35:01,520 --> 02:35:05,120
Speaker 1: fox everything up. I tell him, tell us my best friend,

2475
02:35:06,320 --> 02:35:09,320
Speaker 1: you go through talk it's my best friend. You know

2476
02:35:09,360 --> 02:35:14,880
Speaker 1: why he's my best friend because until money starts fucking

2477
02:35:14,920 --> 02:35:17,720
Speaker 1: with girls or religion, you even know who your best

2478
02:35:17,760 --> 02:35:23,720
Speaker 1: friends out absolutely and we've survived those topics to things.

2479
02:35:23,879 --> 02:35:27,440
Speaker 1: That's why we're best friends. Best friends have to go

2480
02:35:27,640 --> 02:35:30,640
Speaker 1: through that thing and I can only Anas when I

2481
02:35:30,680 --> 02:35:35,400
Speaker 1: can on look out the fame. M He didn't say

2482
02:35:35,480 --> 02:35:39,960
Speaker 1: Nas is better than me. He was. I cann you.

2483
02:35:40,760 --> 02:35:42,640
Speaker 1: He knew that he couldn't funk with this man on

2484
02:35:42,800 --> 02:35:50,480
Speaker 1: the sixteen. You couldn't make it. He's crazy, sneaky is

2485
02:35:50,840 --> 02:35:56,080
Speaker 1: all the words passed the margin. Guy, I'm the fucking bullshit.

2486
02:35:56,160 --> 02:36:06,920
Speaker 1: Put it in your mouth, guy, shout out, that's my

2487
02:36:07,280 --> 02:36:21,560
Speaker 1: that's my guys. You go. That's how it goes, man,

2488
02:36:22,800 --> 02:36:24,560
Speaker 1: And it's like that in the streets. It works to

2489
02:36:24,680 --> 02:36:28,520
Speaker 1: that music. In business, man, you are you great or not?

2490
02:36:29,800 --> 02:36:33,200
Speaker 1: How do you feel about do you think the industry

2491
02:36:34,680 --> 02:36:40,720
Speaker 1: corrupted hip hop culture? I think that money comes in

2492
02:36:41,760 --> 02:36:47,160
Speaker 1: and when money comes in, but what's gonna happen is obvious,

2493
02:36:47,320 --> 02:36:51,640
Speaker 1: Like money comes in and changes all of the outcomes.

2494
02:36:52,480 --> 02:36:55,080
Speaker 1: So that's what money does. It's like it happened in

2495
02:36:55,160 --> 02:36:59,080
Speaker 1: rock music. You know, MTV goes on these guys, you

2496
02:36:59,160 --> 02:37:02,960
Speaker 1: feel its equista rock as well. Yeah hip hop, Yeah,

2497
02:37:03,520 --> 02:37:09,280
Speaker 1: I mean, but I felt like, if you if you're

2498
02:37:09,280 --> 02:37:17,240
Speaker 1: gonna grow, the consequences of growth is mass adoption and corruption,

2499
02:37:17,440 --> 02:37:23,080
Speaker 1: and the mass adoption is corruption. Right, that's all stuffing

2500
02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:25,959
Speaker 1: wrong with it. It's just the way it is. Rock

2501
02:37:26,040 --> 02:37:27,720
Speaker 1: and Moll got big and all of a sudden it

2502
02:37:27,800 --> 02:37:33,560
Speaker 1: was guys, look at White Snake. They were compared to

2503
02:37:34,760 --> 02:37:38,320
Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen, a White Snakes, a rock act. It's like

2504
02:37:38,440 --> 02:37:41,560
Speaker 1: rock acts they were doing. I always use White Snake

2505
02:37:41,720 --> 02:37:47,160
Speaker 1: as an example because White Snake, Nelly rule luded Chris.

2506
02:37:48,120 --> 02:37:55,480
Speaker 1: So they're all really talented people. They were all talented people,

2507
02:37:56,160 --> 02:37:59,720
Speaker 1: but they all have something in common. They had to

2508
02:38:00,200 --> 02:38:06,800
Speaker 1: follow the core truth of something and they were all

2509
02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:15,800
Speaker 1: oh in sent device to do something that wasn't really

2510
02:38:17,800 --> 02:38:19,600
Speaker 1: at the court of truth to the hip hop thing.

2511
02:38:19,760 --> 02:38:24,760
Speaker 1: Man down everything you know, you gotta do the hip

2512
02:38:24,800 --> 02:38:32,320
Speaker 1: hop man Like for me, I may not ever make

2513
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:40,200
Speaker 1: a billion dollars. Everybody, but I I I'm saying this

2514
02:38:40,280 --> 02:38:45,080
Speaker 1: from your show, just relaxed since that would ask me

2515
02:38:45,400 --> 02:38:50,880
Speaker 1: the case somebody from that. But if I tell the

2516
02:38:51,000 --> 02:38:54,560
Speaker 1: truth and it takes me as far as I can go,

2517
02:38:55,520 --> 02:39:01,280
Speaker 1: that's a billion dollars. Man set your free said, I'm

2518
02:39:01,320 --> 02:39:06,240
Speaker 1: maddam fun with my man. I'm good. I'm gonna keep

2519
02:39:06,280 --> 02:39:10,000
Speaker 1: pushing ship forward. I know nobody can sunk with me.

2520
02:39:11,400 --> 02:39:13,040
Speaker 1: They try to talk to me, they can't funk with me.

2521
02:39:13,840 --> 02:39:27,120
Speaker 1: They can't even it's closed, especially troll that sits down.

2522
02:39:27,879 --> 02:39:34,080
Speaker 1: I had. I tried to be a memoi of Hoss.

2523
02:39:34,920 --> 02:39:40,080
Speaker 1: Tell me you lost good, that's stop by wildling out.

2524
02:39:40,720 --> 02:39:44,040
Speaker 1: This is my first time being the memoi, so it

2525
02:39:44,120 --> 02:39:51,520
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You don't. It's for a lot. I don't

2526
02:39:51,560 --> 02:40:03,200
Speaker 1: like it. Mustache and bad. Look. Tell u what I'm saying. Good.

2527
02:40:04,440 --> 02:40:06,920
Speaker 1: Stop to say anything about me. But why do you

2528
02:40:07,040 --> 02:40:14,000
Speaker 1: think that's the right look? Stop coming up with me?

2529
02:40:14,640 --> 02:40:21,960
Speaker 1: I think it say think about me. I'm good man,

2530
02:40:22,080 --> 02:40:28,840
Speaker 1: I got you gotta and you got got the same

2531
02:40:28,959 --> 02:40:34,720
Speaker 1: fit like you ever talked to him about this? I

2532
02:40:34,840 --> 02:40:41,360
Speaker 1: thought about Jim like friends friendship. I don't want to

2533
02:40:41,440 --> 02:40:46,200
Speaker 1: stow the road. Definitely, it's a friendship look a thing

2534
02:40:46,959 --> 02:40:51,840
Speaker 1: because I gotta relax you. But why do you want

2535
02:40:51,879 --> 02:40:57,480
Speaker 1: to fit? But it off you like the Black Show? Lee?

2536
02:41:01,440 --> 02:41:04,720
Speaker 1: And guess what? Stop? I got your back with me?

2537
02:41:06,440 --> 02:41:08,880
Speaker 1: Trust me, I got the ground all right, don't go.

2538
02:41:15,800 --> 02:41:19,280
Speaker 1: He's never your way. You trying to figure out I

2539
02:41:19,520 --> 02:41:22,160
Speaker 1: love you? Stop that must have the statement we have.

2540
02:41:22,560 --> 02:41:27,080
Speaker 1: It's better statement, but it's unless sick. Let's stop. That's

2541
02:41:27,080 --> 02:41:30,080
Speaker 1: about more a weekend stuff. You're gonna be very scart

2542
02:41:30,959 --> 02:41:35,440
Speaker 1: and you gotta call god. He was so scared because

2543
02:41:35,600 --> 02:41:39,040
Speaker 1: you know he went at the LGBT DVD B. You

2544
02:41:39,120 --> 02:41:43,440
Speaker 1: gotta relax. You are saying, what did I say? You've

2545
02:41:43,520 --> 02:41:49,640
Speaker 1: never said, No, you're fanta. Everybody got scared sa LGBT. Listen,

2546
02:41:50,080 --> 02:41:54,760
Speaker 1: they got all of us and they shot means why

2547
02:41:54,920 --> 02:42:06,080
Speaker 1: you're good with the LGBT. I'm rich love and my

2548
02:42:06,400 --> 02:42:08,440
Speaker 1: lookto I took a shot of that. I think I

2549
02:42:08,560 --> 02:42:11,280
Speaker 1: did right. No, that that one you didn't take that.

2550
02:42:11,640 --> 02:42:15,360
Speaker 1: You've wanted everything, but that one that was like a

2551
02:42:15,400 --> 02:42:19,200
Speaker 1: glory on the law, on the law. That's why we

2552
02:42:19,720 --> 02:42:24,160
Speaker 1: didn't connect back then, because he's actually like me. Your

2553
02:42:24,480 --> 02:42:28,800
Speaker 1: look drunk toone is ready to leave. This is important

2554
02:42:28,840 --> 02:42:31,840
Speaker 1: to me. I want my man talking to get everything.

2555
02:42:32,120 --> 02:42:33,920
Speaker 1: You got something to say. You don't do this much.

2556
02:42:33,959 --> 02:42:36,680
Speaker 1: You know he's doing this because it's out here. You

2557
02:42:36,720 --> 02:42:39,680
Speaker 1: want to say anything. You are the best at what

2558
02:42:39,840 --> 02:42:43,320
Speaker 1: you do and you don't talk about still the best

2559
02:42:43,360 --> 02:42:46,320
Speaker 1: step with you, So you don't do this. This is

2560
02:42:46,400 --> 02:42:57,400
Speaker 1: my job. Track Masses to top five. I gotta stop

2561
02:42:57,440 --> 02:43:02,800
Speaker 1: you for a second. Track Masses is top three. If

2562
02:43:02,840 --> 02:43:06,960
Speaker 1: a person ever bring up Nah, do you want me

2563
02:43:07,080 --> 02:43:11,720
Speaker 1: to take this from me? The person ever bring up

2564
02:43:11,800 --> 02:43:15,400
Speaker 1: the top Ellis produces when you look at a person

2565
02:43:15,520 --> 02:43:18,920
Speaker 1: like Nas and you look at I, and when you

2566
02:43:19,000 --> 02:43:23,560
Speaker 1: look at all matic and ill matic, to me, this

2567
02:43:23,800 --> 02:43:27,480
Speaker 1: is just me. Anybody can debate me, or anybody can

2568
02:43:27,520 --> 02:43:31,040
Speaker 1: say funck you nor or anybody. But a lot of

2569
02:43:31,200 --> 02:43:33,600
Speaker 1: times when I want a person to study hip hop,

2570
02:43:34,080 --> 02:43:37,320
Speaker 1: I want them to start from illmatic, and then I

2571
02:43:37,440 --> 02:43:41,880
Speaker 1: want you to go back. And when you go back

2572
02:43:42,000 --> 02:43:45,199
Speaker 1: and you study all matic and then you go back.

2573
02:43:46,480 --> 02:43:49,200
Speaker 1: It was written, was that first album? Was that the

2574
02:43:49,280 --> 02:43:53,680
Speaker 1: static and it was written? It was so neaty for him.

2575
02:43:54,640 --> 02:43:57,960
Speaker 1: Fucking took that sample, that sting sample from the professional

2576
02:43:58,440 --> 02:44:03,680
Speaker 1: talked about that stuffs passage too. He said, No, I'm

2577
02:44:03,720 --> 02:44:12,400
Speaker 1: like a little Nas thinking the message. I'm like, tone,

2578
02:44:13,320 --> 02:44:17,240
Speaker 1: don't play that ship for me. First, I'm like, I

2579
02:44:17,320 --> 02:44:20,080
Speaker 1: couldn't believe that I had. It was the first in

2580
02:44:20,160 --> 02:44:24,120
Speaker 1: my life I knew I had a person that understood it,

2581
02:44:24,920 --> 02:44:29,480
Speaker 1: like me. When he played that tample he paid for me.

2582
02:44:29,879 --> 02:44:33,760
Speaker 1: He didn't play for me like or something like he

2583
02:44:33,879 --> 02:44:36,920
Speaker 1: praised me. Like, Yo, this ship is right, I said,

2584
02:44:36,920 --> 02:44:39,000
Speaker 1: I ticket to Nas. Nas heard it and said, no,

2585
02:44:39,120 --> 02:44:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. Facts, I said, tons

2586
02:44:44,120 --> 02:44:49,680
Speaker 1: want to make this right. I trust this guy's he's

2587
02:44:49,840 --> 02:44:57,480
Speaker 1: spec shower, he's special, super, he sees things. Did you

2588
02:44:57,560 --> 02:45:01,800
Speaker 1: gotta let him do his thing? Yeah? Let him play

2589
02:45:01,840 --> 02:45:05,440
Speaker 1: his game. He's an awesome spades player too. You let

2590
02:45:05,520 --> 02:45:14,920
Speaker 1: him do a stick top five. By the way, jay

2591
02:45:15,040 --> 02:45:20,640
Speaker 1: Z stopped ducking me on the spades game. It's about

2592
02:45:20,680 --> 02:45:32,240
Speaker 1: the stuff. Sure, you gotta relax about Yeah. So he's

2593
02:45:32,280 --> 02:45:34,080
Speaker 1: doing this ship. He plays the ship for me. I'm like,

2594
02:45:34,280 --> 02:45:35,720
Speaker 1: I go back. Then, I'm like that you're gonna do

2595
02:45:35,720 --> 02:45:41,360
Speaker 1: this ship. And I'm like if I could rap, it'd

2596
02:45:41,400 --> 02:45:44,440
Speaker 1: be terrible if I could rap, but I can't rap.

2597
02:45:45,640 --> 02:45:48,640
Speaker 1: So I'm like, and how are you not gonna wrap

2598
02:45:48,680 --> 02:45:55,720
Speaker 1: over this ship? And you heard that ship? You heard

2599
02:45:55,800 --> 02:46:00,280
Speaker 1: the message? The message is ridiculous. The way to start

2600
02:46:00,320 --> 02:46:02,160
Speaker 1: off on the happen. But it's a time to get

2601
02:46:02,200 --> 02:46:06,840
Speaker 1: that and tone tone and Nas I get a lot

2602
02:46:06,920 --> 02:46:14,080
Speaker 1: of credit for NAS's career, but my insight, a lot

2603
02:46:14,160 --> 02:46:16,800
Speaker 1: of what I've done, it was really built up of

2604
02:46:16,879 --> 02:46:24,879
Speaker 1: my partners understanding what's a good thing like that? Stop

2605
02:46:25,360 --> 02:46:30,280
Speaker 1: you stop? I like I really liked that. I right, yeah,

2606
02:46:30,320 --> 02:46:33,640
Speaker 1: and this is you and this is the right start

2607
02:46:33,680 --> 02:46:37,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to get. My fucking membership is so of like, look, listen,

2608
02:46:37,959 --> 02:46:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm from left right, I just shoot people with down.

2609
02:46:40,360 --> 02:46:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that. I don't believe that.

2610
02:46:43,200 --> 02:46:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I think what we see right now?

2611
02:46:46,520 --> 02:46:53,520
Speaker 1: You you got you gottae. Now I played. I was

2612
02:46:53,600 --> 02:47:01,640
Speaker 1: like Joe shooting. Was that shooter? Yeah? My shin is

2613
02:47:01,640 --> 02:47:07,400
Speaker 1: a legend. My ship has never been fifty you know. Alright,

2614
02:47:07,640 --> 02:47:13,320
Speaker 1: stop shooting, guys. I'm never shot. That was shooting. Hey, buddy,

2615
02:47:13,720 --> 02:47:16,120
Speaker 1: you know what the shoot is? It was like you

2616
02:47:16,160 --> 02:47:19,200
Speaker 1: guys just like it wasn't even like a thing like

2617
02:47:20,360 --> 02:47:26,960
Speaker 1: he's a shooter. Shot niggas too, was a shooter. I

2618
02:47:27,080 --> 02:47:33,280
Speaker 1: don't under this ship. Tell us about your finger. You

2619
02:47:33,320 --> 02:47:37,040
Speaker 1: were shot. I'm not, but if you were a shootter,

2620
02:47:37,120 --> 02:47:41,560
Speaker 1: you weren't that. Sorry to Boss Ninker, the team exactly

2621
02:47:41,879 --> 02:47:45,160
Speaker 1: the fact decide of life. What's the fact. Let him

2622
02:47:45,160 --> 02:47:50,200
Speaker 1: talk no the shootings the side of life. We talk

2623
02:47:50,320 --> 02:47:52,040
Speaker 1: for that person that, but the only end of the

2624
02:47:52,080 --> 02:47:55,240
Speaker 1: shout is that life was the site of that. What

2625
02:47:55,320 --> 02:47:58,320
Speaker 1: shoot is, Niggers shoot is like that's the shooting is that?

2626
02:47:58,800 --> 02:48:02,240
Speaker 1: But if you were the moresner and you had a

2627
02:48:02,280 --> 02:48:05,520
Speaker 1: team together, you had to shoot him on the team? Absolutely, Norris,

2628
02:48:06,800 --> 02:48:10,440
Speaker 1: I am'm saying I didn't say that, but it's definitely.

2629
02:48:11,200 --> 02:48:14,880
Speaker 1: How was it? Right? Like now, now you're probably the

2630
02:48:15,080 --> 02:48:19,240
Speaker 1: only person in the world that has access to to

2631
02:48:19,600 --> 02:48:26,160
Speaker 1: jay Z and Nas at the same time. Still still

2632
02:48:28,800 --> 02:48:31,520
Speaker 1: and and listen, I'm gonna just I'm gonna throw this

2633
02:48:31,640 --> 02:48:34,879
Speaker 1: out there. I look at them like the two tight cools.

2634
02:48:34,920 --> 02:48:38,560
Speaker 1: I look at them like the the fucking fast this

2635
02:48:38,840 --> 02:48:41,280
Speaker 1: is this is it. This is hip hop to me,

2636
02:48:41,480 --> 02:48:50,280
Speaker 1: these two guys, And you're the only world that has

2637
02:48:50,440 --> 02:48:55,480
Speaker 1: access to the tourist tycoons in the world. I'm not

2638
02:48:55,520 --> 02:48:58,960
Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. Stop. If I was you, I

2639
02:48:59,040 --> 02:49:03,520
Speaker 1: would have did so crazy, like I don't know. I

2640
02:49:03,680 --> 02:49:06,160
Speaker 1: was just kissed on people for the girl. The reason

2641
02:49:06,200 --> 02:49:09,920
Speaker 1: why I figure you out and big you out. This

2642
02:49:10,040 --> 02:49:11,680
Speaker 1: is what I would have think if I didn't get power,

2643
02:49:11,760 --> 02:49:19,400
Speaker 1: I'll just pissed on people. Baby, you know what was

2644
02:49:19,480 --> 02:49:25,800
Speaker 1: pissed on you? You're not, but I'm just saying, stop,

2645
02:49:25,840 --> 02:49:28,800
Speaker 1: How the fucking it was that humble and you had

2646
02:49:29,280 --> 02:49:31,840
Speaker 1: You're the only person in the world, in my opinion,

2647
02:49:32,680 --> 02:49:36,320
Speaker 1: they had access to them. They guys, they went through it.

2648
02:49:38,480 --> 02:49:42,119
Speaker 1: How the funk do you make and then and then

2649
02:49:42,360 --> 02:49:45,600
Speaker 1: listen if you have to maintain your relationships with both

2650
02:49:45,800 --> 02:49:49,959
Speaker 1: for them, this is tycoon's This is not for nasaurus.

2651
02:49:50,160 --> 02:49:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is. That's ribbing me.

2652
02:49:53,520 --> 02:49:57,960
Speaker 1: Stop stop ribbing me, ribberus that this is why we

2653
02:49:58,280 --> 02:50:00,160
Speaker 1: that's why we get it. We get we make up

2654
02:50:00,240 --> 02:50:06,680
Speaker 1: dinosaurs and you're the only guy in the world. Is

2655
02:50:06,760 --> 02:50:13,480
Speaker 1: it awkward? M m oh, Okay, so it's not up. Okay,

2656
02:50:14,120 --> 02:50:16,960
Speaker 1: it's it's all good because I mean, I deserve to

2657
02:50:17,040 --> 02:50:21,760
Speaker 1: be in the room. M hm. I deserve what I

2658
02:50:21,920 --> 02:50:25,520
Speaker 1: deserve to be to be in the room. Okay, tay,

2659
02:50:25,560 --> 02:50:31,200
Speaker 1: good for me. You know, artists slaying of that level.

2660
02:50:35,200 --> 02:50:40,480
Speaker 1: My job is it's always just make sure what do

2661
02:50:40,560 --> 02:50:44,520
Speaker 1: you need? I see j what do you need? Guys?

2662
02:50:44,560 --> 02:50:50,640
Speaker 1: What do you need? I love these guys. I don't

2663
02:50:50,720 --> 02:50:54,400
Speaker 1: care about the money. Man. If I mean it about money,

2664
02:50:54,440 --> 02:50:59,000
Speaker 1: it would be different, m But it's not about money.

2665
02:50:59,040 --> 02:51:01,680
Speaker 1: I love those guys. I can't even believe I know

2666
02:51:01,959 --> 02:51:06,280
Speaker 1: both of those guys. I speak to them. There's not

2667
02:51:06,400 --> 02:51:08,520
Speaker 1: a week that goes by. I don't speak the Nas

2668
02:51:08,600 --> 02:51:19,760
Speaker 1: and jay Z. I speaks everybody crazy to me that

2669
02:51:19,920 --> 02:51:22,440
Speaker 1: that's a crazy idea. I speak the Nas and jay

2670
02:51:22,520 --> 02:51:30,760
Speaker 1: Z every week or every day, all the time. It

2671
02:51:30,840 --> 02:51:34,160
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with anything. It's really really, it's

2672
02:51:34,200 --> 02:51:37,120
Speaker 1: a real relationship. You have people you speak to every

2673
02:51:37,160 --> 02:51:41,960
Speaker 1: other day. Yeah, it's a jay Z and me, You

2674
02:51:42,200 --> 02:51:44,440
Speaker 1: speaking a Nas jay Z have so trying to make

2675
02:51:44,480 --> 02:51:52,560
Speaker 1: it a normal thing. It's like, yeah, don't you even

2676
02:51:52,680 --> 02:51:59,280
Speaker 1: know that's not a normal day. That's not normal. It's

2677
02:51:59,280 --> 02:52:04,040
Speaker 1: not normal today. Thank you, listen to stop. And it's

2678
02:52:04,080 --> 02:52:06,640
Speaker 1: just this comes a part of me begging you up.

2679
02:52:06,720 --> 02:52:12,480
Speaker 1: It's because you were the only person in the hip

2680
02:52:12,520 --> 02:52:18,200
Speaker 1: hop who could have fixed that situation. They're not tri

2681
02:52:18,360 --> 02:52:22,720
Speaker 1: credit for it. You don't take credit for it. No, No,

2682
02:52:23,840 --> 02:52:29,080
Speaker 1: you don't understand how great they are. They don't. It's

2683
02:52:29,200 --> 02:52:39,560
Speaker 1: fucking Shakespeare and Picasso. It's not really a thing. It's Shakespeare.

2684
02:52:39,720 --> 02:52:43,760
Speaker 1: If you're making Shakespeare Picasso, it's no problem. They don't

2685
02:52:44,080 --> 02:52:49,600
Speaker 1: argue with each other or fight with each other. They're like, great, No,

2686
02:52:49,840 --> 02:52:53,840
Speaker 1: there ya don't. I don't believe the things the way

2687
02:52:53,879 --> 02:52:56,880
Speaker 1: they've seen the world. I can't believe him around it.

2688
02:52:59,040 --> 02:53:03,520
Speaker 1: But what but stops, stoff, but stop. Let me just

2689
02:53:03,680 --> 02:53:05,480
Speaker 1: let me just pick you up once and once again.

2690
02:53:06,040 --> 02:53:08,960
Speaker 1: You're probably the only person that had access to the

2691
02:53:09,120 --> 02:53:15,400
Speaker 1: most too, Puffle. But see Puff had bad Boy and

2692
02:53:15,520 --> 02:53:18,760
Speaker 1: he had I had no yet, I had no alternate motives,

2693
02:53:19,720 --> 02:53:22,680
Speaker 1: so I got everything. Nigger finished my sentence. That was

2694
02:53:22,720 --> 02:53:25,320
Speaker 1: the exact sent as I was saying, was a lot

2695
02:53:25,360 --> 02:53:27,600
Speaker 1: of people have our teriers mortis are. I don't want

2696
02:53:27,600 --> 02:53:31,440
Speaker 1: you to drop a lot of people. I'm sorry I was.

2697
02:53:31,680 --> 02:53:35,800
Speaker 1: I was trying to help your heart so that other people.

2698
02:53:38,080 --> 02:53:41,680
Speaker 1: But you was the only guy that in the middle,

2699
02:53:42,120 --> 02:53:45,040
Speaker 1: prior to the beef, in between the beef, and after

2700
02:53:45,160 --> 02:53:49,879
Speaker 1: the beef, that had access to the two most piss

2701
02:53:50,400 --> 02:53:55,240
Speaker 1: You need a part of the show, but you had

2702
02:53:55,360 --> 02:53:58,840
Speaker 1: access to the most biggest two icons and hip hop

2703
02:54:00,040 --> 02:54:06,080
Speaker 1: go piss. You need Max, I definitely need Flo Max. No,

2704
02:54:06,240 --> 02:54:08,879
Speaker 1: but how how does that feel? The beat with access

2705
02:54:08,879 --> 02:54:12,440
Speaker 1: to the two biggest icons ever in hip hop? And

2706
02:54:13,000 --> 02:54:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you as a person that

2707
02:54:15,920 --> 02:54:19,120
Speaker 1: that know you, like halfway know you. I know you.

2708
02:54:19,320 --> 02:54:22,320
Speaker 1: You was uncomfortable there in that that situation was that

2709
02:54:22,879 --> 02:54:28,760
Speaker 1: I was not uncomfortable. You wasn't that Nows and Javis

2710
02:54:28,800 --> 02:54:33,480
Speaker 1: Beef and you wasn't at all, because when Beef is clear, no,

2711
02:54:33,680 --> 02:54:41,560
Speaker 1: we know it wasn't. I don't have to talk. Continue

2712
02:54:41,879 --> 02:54:43,880
Speaker 1: like he's a Queens thing. You can want him to sit. No,

2713
02:54:44,000 --> 02:54:48,359
Speaker 1: he's for Quaids, you know another queze. I apologize. Continue,

2714
02:54:48,440 --> 02:54:50,920
Speaker 1: so let me try the best rappers of all time.

2715
02:54:51,840 --> 02:54:52,960
Speaker 1: But you want to go there and now I was

2716
02:54:52,959 --> 02:54:57,560
Speaker 1: gonna say that later because rappers of all ties, Yo,

2717
02:55:00,120 --> 02:55:04,760
Speaker 1: you do it from Queens. No, I don't remember engineers

2718
02:55:04,800 --> 02:55:12,920
Speaker 1: the Queen. He's gonna relax exactly like anybody else from Queens. Queen,

2719
02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:15,880
Speaker 1: you from Queens. I'm just saying, we get debate the

2720
02:55:15,959 --> 02:55:18,200
Speaker 1: best rappers of all time from wherever that he's from.

2721
02:55:18,280 --> 02:55:21,840
Speaker 1: You don't want Miami. Nobody ever says, oh, I'll tell

2722
02:55:21,879 --> 02:55:29,879
Speaker 1: you right. Wait anas and and and fucking trick Coot

2723
02:55:29,959 --> 02:55:36,920
Speaker 1: quests rock him was long Island and loved. Okay, are

2724
02:55:36,959 --> 02:55:40,800
Speaker 1: you deleting all the West Coast? I c was one

2725
02:55:40,800 --> 02:55:44,040
Speaker 1: of the best to do it too. Queens, you're not

2726
02:55:44,640 --> 02:55:50,080
Speaker 1: accepting that a queen's Okay, that was battling it right now?

2727
02:55:50,160 --> 02:55:54,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, got The battle is always queens versus Brooklyn

2728
02:55:54,400 --> 02:55:58,520
Speaker 1: snipe close, Okay, you Brooklyn wins every time. He got

2729
02:55:58,680 --> 02:56:01,000
Speaker 1: always has a better rappers. Some told told you're my

2730
02:56:01,160 --> 02:56:05,240
Speaker 1: friend too. I got Big jay Z. I mean, I

2731
02:56:05,280 --> 02:56:08,000
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. I got Naws, I

2732
02:56:08,080 --> 02:56:10,880
Speaker 1: got your Chea Rock, I got a fucking trap co Quest,

2733
02:56:10,959 --> 02:56:14,720
Speaker 1: I got Big Daddy, I ever got Lot School. I

2734
02:56:14,840 --> 02:56:20,680
Speaker 1: have Big Daddy Kane. You know big it's this big

2735
02:56:24,200 --> 02:56:32,039
Speaker 1: a little Big Daddy can really literally literally just shake

2736
02:56:32,480 --> 02:56:45,200
Speaker 1: Clift for something. Wow, I wasn't wasn't ready. What's the

2737
02:56:45,240 --> 02:56:50,280
Speaker 1: second album? What is? You don't know? He wasn't all.

2738
02:56:50,360 --> 02:56:58,920
Speaker 1: That's Google that let out. Yeah, I love Big Dolphins.

2739
02:56:59,040 --> 02:57:05,560
Speaker 1: Was the second album The Daddy, Big Daddy, Big dont Madonna?

2740
02:57:06,040 --> 02:57:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that was unless it was so bad realized. Okay,

2741
02:57:14,560 --> 02:57:20,000
Speaker 1: already saying everything what we're saying. I think Big Daddy

2742
02:57:20,040 --> 02:57:24,680
Speaker 1: Kane didn't fall off to Big Daddy Came. It is

2743
02:57:24,800 --> 02:57:32,760
Speaker 1: a top fucking ridiculous wrapping me trap. Big Daddy Came

2744
02:57:33,800 --> 02:57:43,840
Speaker 1: did not have the fucking ja. No you need, motherfucking

2745
02:57:46,160 --> 02:57:50,200
Speaker 1: it's not even experience you need. When nig you got,

2746
02:57:50,360 --> 02:57:56,560
Speaker 1: like the the ability to run the long race, the

2747
02:57:57,120 --> 02:58:02,960
Speaker 1: long run, Madonna, come on fucking me, daughter like that

2748
02:58:03,200 --> 02:58:10,199
Speaker 1: was like the career. Stop stop to stop me, please please,

2749
02:58:10,360 --> 02:58:13,480
Speaker 1: it's not listen stop listen to let me pick you

2750
02:58:13,600 --> 02:58:16,080
Speaker 1: up like that, because if you listen right here, that's

2751
02:58:16,120 --> 02:58:18,120
Speaker 1: no problem. No, no, I was just telling you. If

2752
02:58:19,240 --> 02:58:21,720
Speaker 1: you say Big Daddy King had a better career in rockcast,

2753
02:58:21,879 --> 02:58:25,520
Speaker 1: nobody said that. This is what I'm asking you. I mean,

2754
02:58:25,600 --> 02:58:30,280
Speaker 1: you can't rock rock him talking about the worst the

2755
02:58:30,400 --> 02:58:34,080
Speaker 1: best at the rock him had that first album was classic,

2756
02:58:34,879 --> 02:58:38,920
Speaker 1: second album was dope. Then I mean, I mean rock him.

2757
02:58:39,440 --> 02:58:42,160
Speaker 1: The lyricist rock him is come on, they still there.

2758
02:58:42,480 --> 02:58:46,320
Speaker 1: But I think Big Daddy King's career was I had

2759
02:58:46,320 --> 02:58:48,880
Speaker 1: a career rock You think Big Daddy Kim is a

2760
02:58:48,920 --> 02:58:53,080
Speaker 1: better better than rock him? Is that what you're saying?

2761
02:58:53,800 --> 02:58:57,960
Speaker 1: He said, career better than a rocket career? So s

2762
02:58:58,400 --> 02:59:03,000
Speaker 1: had ll co J has a better rap career than

2763
02:59:03,200 --> 02:59:06,439
Speaker 1: most people. I don't even want being in this conversation

2764
02:59:06,920 --> 02:59:10,200
Speaker 1: about how about who do you think you had a

2765
02:59:10,200 --> 02:59:17,800
Speaker 1: better career? Ice Cube or career is ice cube, it's

2766
02:59:17,840 --> 02:59:25,080
Speaker 1: a rapper. Oh as a rapper. That's tough. That's tough.

2767
02:59:25,360 --> 02:59:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm not that's that's a very tough, baby saying career

2768
02:59:28,400 --> 02:59:31,800
Speaker 1: overalls ice cubs, kiddn't play. The guys who had just

2769
02:59:32,320 --> 02:59:39,400
Speaker 1: did the caper napkin we'll see and Bill Moore, Bill Moore, Actually,

2770
02:59:39,520 --> 02:59:43,840
Speaker 1: more y, what do you do? Yeah? You know, kid,

2771
02:59:44,000 --> 02:59:47,760
Speaker 1: they listen to the black community for Fried kiddn't play.

2772
02:59:49,680 --> 02:59:52,320
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. Stuff? If Fried kidn't play

2773
02:59:52,320 --> 02:59:59,560
Speaker 1: because kidn't play? Was he posed as a white guy him?

2774
03:00:00,280 --> 03:00:04,040
Speaker 1: You're being Was that crazy? Was that crazy? As the

2775
03:00:04,120 --> 03:00:08,680
Speaker 1: first do what you're doing right now? I don't like that,

2776
03:00:08,920 --> 03:00:11,640
Speaker 1: you know? Was that crazy? That's very disrespectful to ask

2777
03:00:12,360 --> 03:00:18,240
Speaker 1: because because sometimes you don't. I'm just asking. I'm asking

2778
03:00:18,240 --> 03:00:20,760
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm just a journalist. This is a journalist.

2779
03:00:21,520 --> 03:00:25,320
Speaker 1: Your question at this point is this is when the

2780
03:00:25,360 --> 03:00:29,960
Speaker 1: show starts a bit. Listen, we respect your Steve Stout.

2781
03:00:30,120 --> 03:00:32,240
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that case you didn't

2782
03:00:32,240 --> 03:00:35,560
Speaker 1: know that, I respect. My ship is clean. No, your

2783
03:00:35,560 --> 03:00:39,039
Speaker 1: ship is clean. It is clean. Yes, and you did

2784
03:00:39,240 --> 03:00:42,440
Speaker 1: you did that? Lisa. Let's left wi too, right, Let's

2785
03:00:42,480 --> 03:00:47,480
Speaker 1: talk about that. He said left fire first, don't you

2786
03:00:47,520 --> 03:00:50,760
Speaker 1: don't she passed away? Yes, she can said we had

2787
03:00:50,800 --> 03:00:54,880
Speaker 1: her first. No, you know what I mean. And I

2788
03:00:54,920 --> 03:01:00,520
Speaker 1: want to be more respectful. Okay, I poss my girlfriend

2789
03:01:00,840 --> 03:01:05,640
Speaker 1: very early my careerly that's beautiful. Let's talk about that.

2790
03:01:07,160 --> 03:01:10,040
Speaker 1: Let's talk about sex. No, No, that's sex. I didn't

2791
03:01:10,080 --> 03:01:13,320
Speaker 1: say that. I said you had you was with that's

2792
03:01:13,440 --> 03:01:16,480
Speaker 1: that's like one of the biggest with the self thirteen millions.

2793
03:01:16,800 --> 03:01:20,760
Speaker 1: Not even that condolence ex Actually, you know what I'm saying, like,

2794
03:01:21,080 --> 03:01:23,880
Speaker 1: like that must have been hurtful. Man, she ain't trying

2795
03:01:23,879 --> 03:01:25,959
Speaker 1: to bring you out now, all right, and he took

2796
03:01:25,959 --> 03:01:32,400
Speaker 1: it like we all we all heard it when she

2797
03:01:32,560 --> 03:01:36,480
Speaker 1: was If I'm wrong, we all heard. We all hurt

2798
03:01:36,520 --> 03:01:38,880
Speaker 1: for that, and I would imagine you hurt more. It

2799
03:01:39,000 --> 03:01:42,280
Speaker 1: was tough. She was talented, man, she's super talented. Yeah,

2800
03:01:42,320 --> 03:01:53,680
Speaker 1: but you guys, I've everything, by the way, that's that's

2801
03:01:53,680 --> 03:01:55,800
Speaker 1: how that's what may people want to ha mans. My

2802
03:01:55,959 --> 03:02:00,000
Speaker 1: manager let me call down pictures of him, and let's

2803
03:02:00,040 --> 03:02:01,840
Speaker 1: not just chilling like go on vacation. I'm like, you

2804
03:02:01,920 --> 03:02:04,480
Speaker 1: know him, like I'm looking at him like I don't

2805
03:02:04,680 --> 03:02:11,039
Speaker 1: know the girl. You're swimming the water, swimming under water, snorkling, Yeah,

2806
03:02:11,160 --> 03:02:20,360
Speaker 1: pictures under water. You know the water. You know you

2807
03:02:20,520 --> 03:02:22,720
Speaker 1: drink all the good wine by itself. Now I love it.

2808
03:02:22,800 --> 03:02:27,760
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm hanging angler for twenty years. This is

2809
03:02:28,360 --> 03:02:30,440
Speaker 1: don't lad you got my phone number. Now we're gonna

2810
03:02:30,480 --> 03:02:35,600
Speaker 1: make it. I've been you don't make it right. List down, Yes,

2811
03:02:35,720 --> 03:02:38,360
Speaker 1: we've been cooling. You thinking your mustache and gags. Right,

2812
03:02:46,080 --> 03:02:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm so Comford taking. But this ship they right need that.

2813
03:02:52,720 --> 03:02:58,720
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna like them niggers on the what's the

2814
03:02:58,840 --> 03:03:06,280
Speaker 1: game of thrones? Because I don't want to you want to?

2815
03:03:08,000 --> 03:03:11,520
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a thing called too thin? I

2816
03:03:11,560 --> 03:03:16,720
Speaker 1: have no idea. Let's see coming off your gots too thin.

2817
03:03:19,040 --> 03:03:22,480
Speaker 1: Every other CEO took one hit. Now, don't taking one hit.

2818
03:03:22,600 --> 03:03:24,959
Speaker 1: Now we're not doing man. Do you take another shower

2819
03:03:25,000 --> 03:03:27,720
Speaker 1: take Come on it all right, let's do it. Let's

2820
03:03:27,760 --> 03:03:32,800
Speaker 1: do it. Come on, I'm hitting it, I'm do hit.

2821
03:03:33,320 --> 03:03:36,800
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. Let's get another shout and let's

2822
03:03:36,920 --> 03:03:40,160
Speaker 1: see stout track master's tone. We want you all to

2823
03:03:40,280 --> 03:03:45,120
Speaker 1: know that we love y'all. We appreciate y'all. What y'all do. Cool,

2824
03:03:45,320 --> 03:03:52,960
Speaker 1: it's your cruise. We finished. We finished that. You asked

2825
03:03:53,480 --> 03:03:57,400
Speaker 1: like cremate so many queens niggas, which I made it

2826
03:03:57,520 --> 03:04:00,240
Speaker 1: known to all my crew, and I told them, this

2827
03:04:00,440 --> 03:04:03,119
Speaker 1: is a guy. We gotta make sure his red carpet

2828
03:04:03,280 --> 03:04:08,879
Speaker 1: is laid out. We gotta make sure, we gotta make sure,

2829
03:04:10,080 --> 03:04:12,400
Speaker 1: we gotta make sure that. That's why we had whiskey.

2830
03:04:13,160 --> 03:04:18,440
Speaker 1: I hate you, by the way, listen, Oh bullshit is shot.

2831
03:04:20,720 --> 03:04:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm crateful to be here. Thank you. What you did,

2832
03:04:25,160 --> 03:04:28,720
Speaker 1: what you're doing, that you guys are doing is it's

2833
03:04:28,760 --> 03:04:31,480
Speaker 1: not it's not not important. We didn't make a lot

2834
03:04:31,560 --> 03:04:33,440
Speaker 1: of money and a little bit of money. It's important.

2835
03:04:35,480 --> 03:04:42,160
Speaker 1: I came here for us. I came here because if

2836
03:04:42,200 --> 03:04:46,600
Speaker 1: he didn't, we didn't have a one on one that

2837
03:04:46,760 --> 03:04:52,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. Sure, I love him, I love

2838
03:04:52,560 --> 03:04:56,440
Speaker 1: him too, and I just wanna like keep pushing comfort forward.

2839
03:04:56,480 --> 03:05:00,080
Speaker 1: I don't I don't care about the opasy. I just

2840
03:05:00,160 --> 03:05:03,360
Speaker 1: don't care. And I've been a lot of rooms with

2841
03:05:03,360 --> 03:05:07,199
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of places, but hasn't

2842
03:05:07,280 --> 03:05:11,560
Speaker 1: changed my love for the for the art form, the music,

2843
03:05:12,760 --> 03:05:15,320
Speaker 1: for what we all w We're gonna hear when I

2844
03:05:15,480 --> 03:05:17,240
Speaker 1: when I pulled up, I didn't see the graffiti. I

2845
03:05:17,280 --> 03:05:22,600
Speaker 1: felt comfortable. I love graffiti. Graffiti means your home. Graffiti

2846
03:05:22,720 --> 03:05:25,800
Speaker 1: is like signs that equal oh you're on your way home.

2847
03:05:27,360 --> 03:05:32,920
Speaker 1: And I love that. Ship. So drink Champs and power

2848
03:05:33,000 --> 03:05:37,880
Speaker 1: from vaulting. How know you're tired and ship. Listen, let

2849
03:05:37,920 --> 03:05:41,280
Speaker 1: me tell you something strong. I want you to understand

2850
03:05:41,400 --> 03:05:43,560
Speaker 1: this where this is one thing that I would I

2851
03:05:43,600 --> 03:05:47,600
Speaker 1: would like the hip hop culture to understand. We finally

2852
03:05:47,680 --> 03:05:51,720
Speaker 1: have a platform where we probably have a thing where

2853
03:05:52,240 --> 03:05:55,200
Speaker 1: you can come here and you can promote your fitting here.

2854
03:05:56,160 --> 03:06:00,400
Speaker 1: And I'm on a person like I have a platinum black,

2855
03:06:00,840 --> 03:06:06,560
Speaker 1: I have four gold blacks. Yeah, I've got that. So

2856
03:06:07,440 --> 03:06:10,680
Speaker 1: when it come time to pull to promote something or

2857
03:06:10,840 --> 03:06:14,080
Speaker 1: talk to something, we want people to come to us first.

2858
03:06:15,200 --> 03:06:20,400
Speaker 1: And I feel like I own that you're living up everywhere.

2859
03:06:21,560 --> 03:06:24,280
Speaker 1: He lives here right now with Miami kind of places

2860
03:06:24,280 --> 03:06:26,600
Speaker 1: in and we gotta place in New York. Two. You

2861
03:06:26,640 --> 03:06:29,560
Speaker 1: want to be some nois for me? Tell him, tell him, look,

2862
03:06:29,680 --> 03:06:37,400
Speaker 1: tell I'm saying what I'm saying this now, this is

2863
03:06:37,440 --> 03:06:39,040
Speaker 1: what I was trying to say to you. It's like,

2864
03:06:39,640 --> 03:06:43,480
Speaker 1: why not we just all support us no matter where

2865
03:06:43,520 --> 03:06:46,920
Speaker 1: it is. Aware of that, you could come up with

2866
03:06:47,080 --> 03:06:49,240
Speaker 1: the one. I don't know what this is. This is fly,

2867
03:06:49,440 --> 03:06:51,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. Can you tell me what this is called?

2868
03:06:51,640 --> 03:06:54,480
Speaker 1: This is a bag that holds wine, a bag that

2869
03:06:54,560 --> 03:06:59,920
Speaker 1: holds mine. It's right, and these as the thing man

2870
03:07:00,000 --> 03:07:04,600
Speaker 1: of depending it guys different colors, you know. I mean,

2871
03:07:04,920 --> 03:07:07,040
Speaker 1: there's a que finger for real, let's make some nice

2872
03:07:10,400 --> 03:07:12,360
Speaker 1: but but now this is a real ship to think

2873
03:07:12,400 --> 03:07:14,920
Speaker 1: about hip hop. I just want to continue to sport

2874
03:07:15,000 --> 03:07:17,800
Speaker 1: hip hop. What I mean by that style is hit

2875
03:07:17,920 --> 03:07:24,320
Speaker 1: me out. Is of course, we could go to the

2876
03:07:24,400 --> 03:07:28,240
Speaker 1: traditional radio system, right, we could go to the additional

2877
03:07:29,720 --> 03:07:32,800
Speaker 1: sitting down when we sat down with before. But let

2878
03:07:32,840 --> 03:07:35,840
Speaker 1: me just tell you something. The people who said that

2879
03:07:36,040 --> 03:07:39,200
Speaker 1: on no Listen listen people should go around the whole

2880
03:07:39,200 --> 03:07:44,240
Speaker 1: of around the country having dumb conversations trying to realize.

2881
03:07:44,480 --> 03:07:48,720
Speaker 1: But when I realized, is this back in the days

2882
03:07:48,720 --> 03:07:50,760
Speaker 1: when we used to sell drugs in New York City.

2883
03:07:51,360 --> 03:07:53,760
Speaker 1: We used to sell drugs in New York City. But

2884
03:07:53,959 --> 03:07:58,560
Speaker 1: everybody used to get up or become rich if they

2885
03:07:58,680 --> 03:08:02,080
Speaker 1: go out of town. I bet all your friends didn't

2886
03:08:02,080 --> 03:08:04,120
Speaker 1: make you used to say I'm going out of town

2887
03:08:04,640 --> 03:08:07,440
Speaker 1: and I'm getting rich. The thing about it is that

2888
03:08:08,160 --> 03:08:14,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna getting rich is SoundCloud. Getting the richest is

2889
03:08:14,680 --> 03:08:18,760
Speaker 1: staying right there selling your own product in the same place.

2890
03:08:19,360 --> 03:08:21,560
Speaker 1: If do you understand what I'm trying to say, Yes,

2891
03:08:21,840 --> 03:08:25,720
Speaker 1: that's why j went to fourth the four forty four.

2892
03:08:26,120 --> 03:08:28,960
Speaker 1: He went and he sold it to only spread customers.

2893
03:08:30,959 --> 03:08:33,480
Speaker 1: Are you understand what I'm trying to say? So now

2894
03:08:33,720 --> 03:08:38,280
Speaker 1: can we're doing a lot of things. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

2895
03:08:38,560 --> 03:08:44,720
Speaker 1: and yes yes, yes, yes, I'm gonna do what of course, man,

2896
03:08:45,040 --> 03:08:51,400
Speaker 1: that you're saying all the right things. I'm happy to

2897
03:08:51,480 --> 03:08:54,120
Speaker 1: be here. Man's hip hop. Gonna what you want from me?

2898
03:08:54,480 --> 03:08:57,040
Speaker 1: It is hip hop. Whatever get any bigger or no,

2899
03:08:58,440 --> 03:09:04,640
Speaker 1: we're still in the beginning it. That's the part that

2900
03:09:05,240 --> 03:09:10,360
Speaker 1: as long as we grab that, I'm there, I'm gonna

2901
03:09:10,400 --> 03:09:13,240
Speaker 1: work with the guys that people don't even think it's dope.

2902
03:09:13,800 --> 03:09:17,840
Speaker 1: You're like the Little Yatti's dope fucking's I'm talking with

2903
03:09:17,879 --> 03:09:21,240
Speaker 1: Little Yatti. I'm working with it. What did you doing?

2904
03:09:21,920 --> 03:09:25,600
Speaker 1: You you only want to blow with the handshake? Was

2905
03:09:25,640 --> 03:09:29,600
Speaker 1: talking with with everybody? If you were pushing culture forward,

2906
03:09:30,200 --> 03:09:36,440
Speaker 1: it's dope. It's wrapped it's um graffiti, it's this, it's that,

2907
03:09:36,760 --> 03:09:40,520
Speaker 1: it's fuck you, it's the truth. We don't have to

2908
03:09:40,640 --> 03:09:43,080
Speaker 1: like it. Old school niggas don't have to like it.

2909
03:09:43,760 --> 03:09:46,440
Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is old school niggers

2910
03:09:46,480 --> 03:09:53,560
Speaker 1: who liked the beginning of Bob Dylan they didn't like it.

2911
03:09:53,680 --> 03:09:56,160
Speaker 1: Was like, what is that? I like Bob Dylan? What

2912
03:09:56,240 --> 03:09:59,320
Speaker 1: the fund is Nirvana? If you like Bob Dylan in

2913
03:09:59,400 --> 03:10:03,320
Speaker 1: the seventies, why would you like Nirvana? And like how

2914
03:10:03,440 --> 03:10:06,680
Speaker 1: Melly Milan were dressing either, Yeah, I like that how

2915
03:10:06,760 --> 03:10:10,240
Speaker 1: Million mill dressed either exactly. But as time goes on,

2916
03:10:10,400 --> 03:10:12,440
Speaker 1: you just gotta keep going with the art form. You

2917
03:10:12,560 --> 03:10:15,840
Speaker 1: gotta understand what the truth is. And he keeps resetting itself.

2918
03:10:16,400 --> 03:10:21,320
Speaker 1: Alonso Ball, Alonso Ball. I don't he looks like Mrs

2919
03:10:21,360 --> 03:10:31,200
Speaker 1: Softly go with like the whole look. You like his look?

2920
03:10:35,160 --> 03:10:39,400
Speaker 1: I don't like the way he plays. Man. He came

2921
03:10:39,480 --> 03:10:45,840
Speaker 1: my our brother. How did he come at? Nah? He's

2922
03:10:45,920 --> 03:10:51,960
Speaker 1: a bump? Anybody he said he's a bump? Does that

2923
03:10:52,080 --> 03:10:55,840
Speaker 1: mean his father wants me to him? You know how

2924
03:10:56,000 --> 03:11:03,480
Speaker 1: great that is to one of let's phone call. I

2925
03:11:03,520 --> 03:11:05,959
Speaker 1: don't need phone calls. I'm not looking at the phone

2926
03:11:06,000 --> 03:11:17,840
Speaker 1: calls God, No, you got He was the first person

2927
03:11:17,920 --> 03:11:21,520
Speaker 1: that I think he got. He got work to do

2928
03:11:21,800 --> 03:11:24,000
Speaker 1: and magic magic en dousing. He got work to do.

2929
03:11:25,200 --> 03:11:29,039
Speaker 1: Magic the homie? Right, is it magic the homie? It's

2930
03:11:29,120 --> 03:11:32,800
Speaker 1: magic the homie. You gotta see if magics the homie.

2931
03:11:33,560 --> 03:11:37,080
Speaker 1: He's no magic homie. To me, it's massed to homie.

2932
03:11:37,840 --> 03:11:40,880
Speaker 1: He's think of running around shooting on nas. We can't

2933
03:11:40,920 --> 03:11:43,520
Speaker 1: do that. That's that's how you shoot, or not walking

2934
03:11:43,520 --> 03:11:50,400
Speaker 1: around with a stupid face. Do you like his face?

2935
03:11:53,080 --> 03:12:04,320
Speaker 1: Anybody adn't like his face? We're doing you guys? What

2936
03:12:04,400 --> 03:12:16,600
Speaker 1: are you doing? Got my life? People different name. You know,

2937
03:12:17,280 --> 03:12:19,600
Speaker 1: there's a new thing we need to work out. Face

2938
03:12:19,720 --> 03:12:26,440
Speaker 1: the fro ratio gets out. Break that down it from

2939
03:12:26,640 --> 03:12:38,160
Speaker 1: big face? You don't think so down? What is the one?

2940
03:12:39,080 --> 03:12:43,320
Speaker 1: Just from like and in tones? My tone is texting

2941
03:12:43,400 --> 03:12:49,560
Speaker 1: you right now like I feel like you totally No,

2942
03:12:50,480 --> 03:13:01,480
Speaker 1: he hasked some reduces from or increases frice. We listen.

2943
03:13:01,760 --> 03:13:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest A grain the world is gonna

2944
03:13:06,120 --> 03:13:11,760
Speaker 1: but that is what to miss out queen. That's how

2945
03:13:11,959 --> 03:13:15,240
Speaker 1: queas things getting down? Can you not what am I saying? No?

2946
03:13:15,760 --> 03:13:18,400
Speaker 1: Totally you just be a Queen's the thing about it.

2947
03:13:18,520 --> 03:13:21,600
Speaker 1: The world's gonna be like Dad did that? Now? No really,

2948
03:13:22,200 --> 03:13:25,760
Speaker 1: queens thing, give me back. I don't feel from your

2949
03:13:25,879 --> 03:13:34,800
Speaker 1: job hands now I have no job, no face. The

2950
03:13:35,360 --> 03:13:49,640
Speaker 1: little I have not this face is the CEOs is

2951
03:13:49,920 --> 03:13:55,360
Speaker 1: always to do world. Listen to look at look tell

2952
03:13:55,440 --> 03:13:58,800
Speaker 1: he's trying to act like you're on the point for goal.

2953
03:14:05,959 --> 03:14:08,520
Speaker 1: What am I saying that? You know? It's some beautiful things.

2954
03:14:09,480 --> 03:14:13,039
Speaker 1: This is this is what we do. We love entertainment.

2955
03:14:14,240 --> 03:14:17,320
Speaker 1: Let's keep going, Stout and you are a beautiful guests.

2956
03:14:18,120 --> 03:14:21,440
Speaker 1: I love you, and listen Stout. I won't be honest.

2957
03:14:21,840 --> 03:14:26,040
Speaker 1: Let me be honest. We had Leo, we had Kevin Lows.

2958
03:14:26,480 --> 03:14:28,920
Speaker 1: But when people told me that I wanted to do

2959
03:14:29,080 --> 03:14:31,760
Speaker 1: the show, I was so excited. Wanted because you're from

2960
03:14:31,879 --> 03:14:37,480
Speaker 1: Queens and I wanted to pick up my fellow queen's partner.

2961
03:14:38,240 --> 03:14:42,240
Speaker 1: But too because you know, like one of the unreachable

2962
03:14:42,360 --> 03:14:45,800
Speaker 1: guys and should be in the industry, like the first

2963
03:14:45,920 --> 03:14:49,680
Speaker 1: underreachable like like like it's hard, like if you first

2964
03:14:51,080 --> 03:14:57,440
Speaker 1: private life, that break that there, like how don't it's

2965
03:14:57,480 --> 03:15:01,200
Speaker 1: probably need it? You know, I don't need it. What

2966
03:15:01,320 --> 03:15:07,400
Speaker 1: I love is I love I love the space, I

2967
03:15:07,520 --> 03:15:12,800
Speaker 1: love um, I love being honest about ship. I love laughing.

2968
03:15:12,959 --> 03:15:21,000
Speaker 1: Laughing is the best, laughless fantastic stampeuted. But and like,

2969
03:15:23,080 --> 03:15:25,480
Speaker 1: I think we missed a lot of ship tonight. I

2970
03:15:25,600 --> 03:15:28,960
Speaker 1: think I don't know what I'm gonna do this ship.

2971
03:15:30,080 --> 03:15:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think we missed a lot of

2972
03:15:34,440 --> 03:15:37,240
Speaker 1: ship because like what what what? What do you think

2973
03:15:37,320 --> 03:15:40,480
Speaker 1: we've missed more nuances that were pushing on the edge.

2974
03:15:40,720 --> 03:15:44,200
Speaker 1: I think we didn't like when when what's his name?

2975
03:15:45,040 --> 03:15:48,000
Speaker 1: The white guy who made all the money in radio?

2976
03:15:48,920 --> 03:15:51,720
Speaker 1: In radio, how it how it started? But how it

2977
03:15:51,840 --> 03:15:54,560
Speaker 1: started to trying to duplicate this. Yeah, but you gotta

2978
03:15:54,600 --> 03:15:58,120
Speaker 1: go further, like when that really touching all the way right?

2979
03:15:58,600 --> 03:16:01,480
Speaker 1: When I tell the truth. Sobody has to hate him.

2980
03:16:02,800 --> 03:16:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm not making this out. So you want to you

2981
03:16:04,680 --> 03:16:07,600
Speaker 1: want to go there? Like because the thing about because

2982
03:16:07,640 --> 03:16:10,720
Speaker 1: somebody has to say ship that's so fucked up, but

2983
03:16:10,800 --> 03:16:15,440
Speaker 1: it's true, Like no, but how would stirb would say

2984
03:16:15,480 --> 03:16:19,560
Speaker 1: things about Madonna like somebody has to say something man like,

2985
03:16:20,280 --> 03:16:23,320
Speaker 1: like I'm not making anything up. There's way more ship.

2986
03:16:24,240 --> 03:16:26,880
Speaker 1: We were all the artists that we touched, all the

2987
03:16:26,959 --> 03:16:29,880
Speaker 1: things that we touched. We didn't tell the truth. We

2988
03:16:30,040 --> 03:16:34,119
Speaker 1: told most of the truth. So when we talking about

2989
03:16:34,160 --> 03:16:40,360
Speaker 1: Christian okay, because we don't really worry, you just tell it.

2990
03:16:40,440 --> 03:16:44,200
Speaker 1: We want to go there, we want to go becau

2991
03:16:44,240 --> 03:16:47,200
Speaker 1: us to think about it, is you the person who

2992
03:16:47,800 --> 03:16:51,959
Speaker 1: you have a book called tannin America. Tannin America means

2993
03:16:53,160 --> 03:16:57,119
Speaker 1: you was making it one series. So the thing about

2994
03:16:57,200 --> 03:17:01,120
Speaker 1: it was this book series. Okay, okay, I'm going there

2995
03:17:01,200 --> 03:17:03,840
Speaker 1: now now I was, I was, I was gonna relax.

2996
03:17:04,240 --> 03:17:06,959
Speaker 1: I want to do myselfo off scard. But I'm gonna relax.

2997
03:17:07,040 --> 03:17:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get that next year. Oh no, no, not

2998
03:17:09,879 --> 03:17:14,680
Speaker 1: mean two weeks. Right, But listen, so stout think about

2999
03:17:14,720 --> 03:17:18,960
Speaker 1: the He definitely need to fund the Soul because it's

3000
03:17:19,320 --> 03:17:25,760
Speaker 1: style rights. So stout the thing about it? And when

3001
03:17:25,920 --> 03:17:30,000
Speaker 1: when when? When you do you want to you know? Stop?

3002
03:17:31,879 --> 03:17:34,320
Speaker 1: But when thinking people think about it, and they think

3003
03:17:34,360 --> 03:17:38,400
Speaker 1: about people like who's successful like you, people like you're

3004
03:17:38,440 --> 03:17:43,320
Speaker 1: sexual like Jay, people successful like Dame. They always allude

3005
03:17:43,360 --> 03:17:51,320
Speaker 1: to these people as an illuminati going there. I don't

3006
03:17:51,320 --> 03:17:54,440
Speaker 1: even know what they're talking about. That I am not.

3007
03:17:54,959 --> 03:17:59,800
Speaker 1: I am not successful in the dame category. And what

3008
03:18:00,040 --> 03:18:05,040
Speaker 1: category the dame category when you said people like you

3009
03:18:05,480 --> 03:18:10,720
Speaker 1: like Dame, I am successful in the the category of like.

3010
03:18:11,000 --> 03:18:13,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe this naked did that. I am not

3011
03:18:13,920 --> 03:18:17,720
Speaker 1: in the success I'm not in the category of like Illuminati,

3012
03:18:18,000 --> 03:18:20,720
Speaker 1: this that in the third, I went past all of

3013
03:18:20,800 --> 03:18:23,440
Speaker 1: those things. I just want you to know that I

3014
03:18:23,480 --> 03:18:25,080
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want

3015
03:18:25,080 --> 03:18:29,400
Speaker 1: to be mistaken by the guy who did well, who

3016
03:18:29,600 --> 03:18:31,720
Speaker 1: came from hip hop, who was stuck in that No.

3017
03:18:32,720 --> 03:18:37,200
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, well, I guess the segue is there in Illuminati.

3018
03:18:38,720 --> 03:18:43,520
Speaker 1: That's bullshit. I don't know. No, that part is bullshit.

3019
03:18:43,600 --> 03:18:46,280
Speaker 1: I see want you to know that I that I

3020
03:18:46,320 --> 03:18:52,320
Speaker 1: don't want that thing or those things to distort the truth.

3021
03:18:54,720 --> 03:18:58,480
Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is those are just like

3022
03:18:58,800 --> 03:19:06,920
Speaker 1: speed bumps is doing the right thing. No, Alumini, there's

3023
03:19:06,920 --> 03:19:11,640
Speaker 1: a fake words man. There's no aluminium. There's no gathering

3024
03:19:11,760 --> 03:19:14,760
Speaker 1: of people saying we're gonna do this. Here's no version

3025
03:19:14,840 --> 03:19:20,840
Speaker 1: of like. No, I've never even nobody even called me

3026
03:19:20,920 --> 03:19:29,279
Speaker 1: for that party. I tended that party. I just believe

3027
03:19:29,920 --> 03:19:45,720
Speaker 1: that Earth game like D MASTERP and Too Short and

3028
03:19:45,920 --> 03:19:48,160
Speaker 1: D forty and this that in the third and you

3029
03:19:48,280 --> 03:19:55,160
Speaker 1: keep going. We're pushing something that's bigger than us forward,

3030
03:19:56,000 --> 03:19:58,200
Speaker 1: and all we hope is that at one day point

3031
03:19:58,720 --> 03:20:00,680
Speaker 1: somebody says, these were the guy as who pushed it.

3032
03:20:02,240 --> 03:20:04,360
Speaker 1: But while by pushing it, we don't have no idea

3033
03:20:04,400 --> 03:20:07,120
Speaker 1: if we're gonna have to get credit for it. I

3034
03:20:07,200 --> 03:20:11,800
Speaker 1: go to San Francis Gussie forty. It's like, yeah, how

3035
03:20:11,920 --> 03:20:14,280
Speaker 1: much money I made or how much money what he made,

3036
03:20:14,440 --> 03:20:19,000
Speaker 1: or it doesn't even reflect on our conversation. I see

3037
03:20:19,560 --> 03:20:21,640
Speaker 1: com millionaires telling me a story the other day that

3038
03:20:21,760 --> 03:20:28,320
Speaker 1: was ridiculously fantastic. I don't know when you're pushing something

3039
03:20:28,440 --> 03:20:32,600
Speaker 1: forward that's something as bigger than you, you removed yourself

3040
03:20:32,640 --> 03:20:35,560
Speaker 1: from the equation and you keep doing that one thing.

3041
03:20:37,200 --> 03:20:39,120
Speaker 1: So when you say, oh, he's some queens, is this

3042
03:20:39,720 --> 03:20:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm pushing queens Oakland, Memphis, Houston, Dallas, all that should content,

3043
03:20:50,320 --> 03:20:52,480
Speaker 1: all that should I'm pushing all that ship forward. But

3044
03:20:52,680 --> 03:20:55,760
Speaker 1: but mind you, he said pavillionaire. So I think that's

3045
03:20:55,760 --> 03:20:59,000
Speaker 1: a lesson to be learned as well. People haven't heard covillionaire.

3046
03:20:59,160 --> 03:21:02,200
Speaker 1: And in the entertainment space, come in, there is a

3047
03:21:02,360 --> 03:21:11,840
Speaker 1: smart guys in entrepreneurship. Guy right, I thought, with commit

3048
03:21:11,920 --> 03:21:16,959
Speaker 1: I thought, and I don't care about that part. You're smart,

3049
03:21:17,200 --> 03:21:20,840
Speaker 1: you're talented. Let's push culture forward. That's what this show is.

3050
03:21:20,879 --> 03:21:24,760
Speaker 1: That's what I'm here. Drink Champce, isn't. You may think

3051
03:21:24,840 --> 03:21:28,840
Speaker 1: you're doing something that's like drinking. You guys are pushing

3052
03:21:28,879 --> 03:21:34,320
Speaker 1: culture forward. Man, you guys are doing That's what you're doing.

3053
03:21:34,400 --> 03:21:37,000
Speaker 1: That's why I'm here. I'm like all other parts of

3054
03:21:37,080 --> 03:21:41,440
Speaker 1: it are meaningless. The part that's the most meaningful is

3055
03:21:41,520 --> 03:21:46,000
Speaker 1: that if you come here and you say something, the

3056
03:21:46,160 --> 03:21:50,280
Speaker 1: world may actually hear it and actually do something as

3057
03:21:50,320 --> 03:21:53,520
Speaker 1: a result of it. Well, I don't. I'm not. I

3058
03:21:53,520 --> 03:21:55,680
Speaker 1: don't need to be here to be hot. They maybe

3059
03:21:56,160 --> 03:22:05,360
Speaker 1: we came to get hot. Right now, we know what stop.

3060
03:22:06,520 --> 03:22:08,240
Speaker 1: The only part of you want to correct you is

3061
03:22:08,760 --> 03:22:11,720
Speaker 1: is because we want to respect our culture, our coaches.

3062
03:22:12,560 --> 03:22:15,920
Speaker 1: The only thing that I could only be disappointed in

3063
03:22:16,080 --> 03:22:19,280
Speaker 1: hip hop is when people get old and hip hop

3064
03:22:19,720 --> 03:22:25,320
Speaker 1: and people don't want to respect. I just can't allow. Like,

3065
03:22:25,480 --> 03:22:29,800
Speaker 1: I can't allow that, Like I can't allow brother, I

3066
03:22:29,959 --> 03:22:32,080
Speaker 1: just can't. I just can't. I have to feel like

3067
03:22:32,480 --> 03:22:34,280
Speaker 1: I feel like no I should be respected for the

3068
03:22:34,320 --> 03:22:36,800
Speaker 1: breast day is like for like Jay should be respected

3069
03:22:36,840 --> 03:22:39,039
Speaker 1: for the rest of is like and guess what I'm

3070
03:22:39,080 --> 03:22:41,160
Speaker 1: gonna suck y'all up right now? I feel like jab

3071
03:22:41,400 --> 03:22:47,160
Speaker 1: the damage is even respective, but maybe not respectus, not

3072
03:22:47,280 --> 03:22:50,440
Speaker 1: as home but what I'm saying, but he's still should

3073
03:22:50,440 --> 03:22:55,080
Speaker 1: be respected like we should our culture. Why why don't

3074
03:22:55,080 --> 03:22:59,880
Speaker 1: we like? The thing about rock and roll is they

3075
03:23:00,240 --> 03:23:03,600
Speaker 1: they didn't they always respect that. It was the guy

3076
03:23:03,840 --> 03:23:08,520
Speaker 1: I had Carross Swimmers in my office and when he

3077
03:23:08,640 --> 03:23:14,080
Speaker 1: was there, Yeah, those are my guys. Keep looking at

3078
03:23:14,160 --> 03:23:17,440
Speaker 1: her mother. So karros One came to my office and

3079
03:23:17,480 --> 03:23:24,280
Speaker 1: we were talking. This is rich because the US I

3080
03:23:24,440 --> 03:23:30,560
Speaker 1: meet him and Chris says to me that he was homeless,

3081
03:23:31,400 --> 03:23:42,880
Speaker 1: going like this, h he's beating us on the wall.

3082
03:23:43,200 --> 03:23:46,320
Speaker 1: And the guy who was hearing this is a guy

3083
03:23:46,360 --> 03:23:49,840
Speaker 1: who works in the homeless facility, and that's Scott la

3084
03:23:49,920 --> 03:23:52,400
Speaker 1: Rock And that's how they made the bridges of him.

3085
03:23:54,480 --> 03:23:57,120
Speaker 1: He was homeless when he made the record, he was

3086
03:23:57,240 --> 03:24:01,720
Speaker 1: he was crazy. Are facts. He's telling you this though.

3087
03:24:02,200 --> 03:24:07,440
Speaker 1: He's a hormless guy beating against the wall, and the

3088
03:24:07,520 --> 03:24:15,760
Speaker 1: guy who hears the beat says, who the fuck is

3089
03:24:15,840 --> 03:24:20,360
Speaker 1: doing that? And then those guys make the bridges over

3090
03:24:20,680 --> 03:24:24,480
Speaker 1: and may sell the rights to that song to a

3091
03:24:24,680 --> 03:24:32,480
Speaker 1: company who distributes porn. You know what, your styles whole

3092
03:24:32,600 --> 03:24:41,160
Speaker 1: childhood right now each other, and you know what, because

3093
03:24:41,200 --> 03:24:44,480
Speaker 1: they can't get out and when the sun finally gets

3094
03:24:44,520 --> 03:24:51,360
Speaker 1: out through this porn distribute wait wait, okay, no, no,

3095
03:24:51,840 --> 03:24:53,920
Speaker 1: it was a point company put out buggy that with

3096
03:24:54,000 --> 03:25:03,920
Speaker 1: duction bridge over yes, god, yeah, they didn't get ready there.

3097
03:25:05,959 --> 03:25:11,560
Speaker 1: That's how these things gone. The beginning and the innovation

3098
03:25:11,720 --> 03:25:20,080
Speaker 1: of everything has to pay damages to people who don't understand,

3099
03:25:20,640 --> 03:25:24,879
Speaker 1: people don't believe it, and all the of the altercations

3100
03:25:25,000 --> 03:25:29,200
Speaker 1: of what means to go forward, that's all. It's no

3101
03:25:29,360 --> 03:25:33,200
Speaker 1: big deal. He's a homeless guy. He was shooting with

3102
03:25:33,400 --> 03:25:40,280
Speaker 1: mc shan when he was homeless. Ask him, he'll tell

3103
03:25:40,320 --> 03:25:48,560
Speaker 1: you what. Yes, Chris, okay, he was homeless in front

3104
03:25:49,840 --> 03:25:53,760
Speaker 1: and the heating actually for him. He was homeless. He

3105
03:25:53,800 --> 03:25:58,560
Speaker 1: couldn't hear that. He kept hearing this ship. He's in

3106
03:25:58,600 --> 03:26:02,560
Speaker 1: the thing and he's doing He's like, it's the problems, yeah,

3107
03:26:03,600 --> 03:26:09,600
Speaker 1: this guy, and he's almost time. These guys did the

3108
03:26:09,640 --> 03:26:13,760
Speaker 1: whole thing right. These guys were not working around. These

3109
03:26:13,800 --> 03:26:16,360
Speaker 1: guys are the real guys. Man. So now you as

3110
03:26:16,400 --> 03:26:21,240
Speaker 1: a person, as an innovative hippop. You see how much

3111
03:26:21,440 --> 03:26:24,280
Speaker 1: intricate they were and they whyms and how they put

3112
03:26:24,360 --> 03:26:29,200
Speaker 1: it together. And now you're still like the market genus again.

3113
03:26:30,040 --> 03:26:34,560
Speaker 1: And now I know you as a person who started

3114
03:26:34,560 --> 03:26:38,480
Speaker 1: from Kenny Play. And now you're seeing these new guys, Yeah,

3115
03:26:39,000 --> 03:26:42,240
Speaker 1: because they never bother you that they're not doing the

3116
03:26:42,360 --> 03:26:47,400
Speaker 1: same work that you've seen these people doing back then. Oh,

3117
03:26:47,560 --> 03:26:50,680
Speaker 1: you're still like I'm gonna get the bread. It's not

3118
03:26:51,080 --> 03:26:52,960
Speaker 1: about the bread. I see it. I see the guy,

3119
03:26:53,560 --> 03:26:57,359
Speaker 1: I see parents, I see love. I see the difference

3120
03:26:57,440 --> 03:27:01,680
Speaker 1: between how you grew up and what matters to you

3121
03:27:02,240 --> 03:27:04,600
Speaker 1: versus what matters to them. I don't, I don't. I

3122
03:27:04,680 --> 03:27:10,200
Speaker 1: don't even think about it like that. No, No, I

3123
03:27:10,360 --> 03:27:12,120
Speaker 1: was a cool hurt when I cut you. I was

3124
03:27:12,200 --> 03:27:15,720
Speaker 1: a cool hurd fucking six months ago. Cool nobody even

3125
03:27:15,760 --> 03:27:20,520
Speaker 1: talks to cool hurt chaps. Actually, I think I was

3126
03:27:20,640 --> 03:27:23,960
Speaker 1: with cool Hirk for I was like I was with

3127
03:27:24,200 --> 03:27:30,480
Speaker 1: coolherk talking to make sure you're talking. You know how

3128
03:27:30,560 --> 03:27:34,040
Speaker 1: hard it is to fam Cork even know who Moriga is? Yeah,

3129
03:27:34,120 --> 03:27:37,160
Speaker 1: but now you know what stop? You know how hardest

3130
03:27:37,240 --> 03:27:40,200
Speaker 1: for Coolhork even know who is or you know who

3131
03:27:40,280 --> 03:27:46,560
Speaker 1: you are. That's cool, hurc, that's cooling about you? What

3132
03:27:46,720 --> 03:27:54,720
Speaker 1: I am? Stop? Who's all right? Cool Hurt, it's not

3133
03:27:54,879 --> 03:28:02,240
Speaker 1: even talking cool er, cool Hurt. Barey talks to me,

3134
03:28:03,440 --> 03:28:09,240
Speaker 1: don't just like you. He's not talking to me. I

3135
03:28:09,320 --> 03:28:12,240
Speaker 1: spent the Dapper Dan. I speak to cool Hurt because

3136
03:28:12,320 --> 03:28:16,400
Speaker 1: I love what they did and whatever what happens to me?

3137
03:28:17,080 --> 03:28:22,280
Speaker 1: The cool the fucking Dapper Dan Gucci deal. Your motherfucking right,

3138
03:28:22,360 --> 03:28:25,160
Speaker 1: it's me talked about that. They gotta talk. That man

3139
03:28:26,640 --> 03:28:29,440
Speaker 1: goes on. Let me me just stopped. Believe how long

3140
03:28:29,520 --> 03:28:38,960
Speaker 1: these conversation I believe if I really its first started,

3141
03:28:39,760 --> 03:28:42,400
Speaker 1: I felt like you first started and you said you've

3142
03:28:42,440 --> 03:28:45,760
Speaker 1: seen something about Dapper Dan. They got posted it was

3143
03:28:46,280 --> 03:28:51,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't even Dapper Dan. You posted a Louverton sure

3144
03:28:51,200 --> 03:28:56,960
Speaker 1: that Dapper Dan actually designed and I'm correct, correct you

3145
03:28:57,480 --> 03:29:01,000
Speaker 1: actually earlier and for you you've seen the whole ship

3146
03:29:02,600 --> 03:29:05,920
Speaker 1: my ship. Just want you to know I respect you

3147
03:29:06,520 --> 03:29:09,879
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be sent. You've seen that. Yeah,

3148
03:29:10,320 --> 03:29:18,520
Speaker 1: we have to go. Even your people was like he's good. No,

3149
03:29:19,520 --> 03:29:25,760
Speaker 1: this ain't no free lures, no thing was we've seen

3150
03:29:25,959 --> 03:29:36,000
Speaker 1: there h where good nikas Jack, this man this man

3151
03:29:36,160 --> 03:29:39,760
Speaker 1: is a legend. Dab Dad daber Dan is a legend.

3152
03:29:40,320 --> 03:29:45,520
Speaker 1: Gabri Dan is the reason why everybody wins Gucci and

3153
03:29:45,640 --> 03:29:48,560
Speaker 1: reiv time and everything to this day. You don't have

3154
03:29:48,680 --> 03:29:50,920
Speaker 1: to know why, and you don't. Don't argue with me,

3155
03:29:51,040 --> 03:29:54,320
Speaker 1: don't be like fuck him, fuck you and your old

3156
03:29:54,680 --> 03:29:57,600
Speaker 1: and don't listen. I'm telling you, man, this guy was

3157
03:29:57,720 --> 03:30:00,640
Speaker 1: doing everything. This guy was taking his ship and making

3158
03:30:02,160 --> 03:30:07,600
Speaker 1: sweatpants fitting, sweatshirts fitting, putting Louis Vutton and mcm monilesition

3159
03:30:07,760 --> 03:30:11,520
Speaker 1: needs cors. He was putting together outfit for drug dealers

3160
03:30:13,640 --> 03:30:17,360
Speaker 1: and we all ropers. And then he caught me drug dealers.

3161
03:30:18,560 --> 03:30:24,039
Speaker 1: He did it, and then they shut him down. They

3162
03:30:24,080 --> 03:30:28,840
Speaker 1: shut him down because Mike Tyson beat up. Mike Tyson

3163
03:30:28,959 --> 03:30:31,960
Speaker 1: beat up a boxer. Mike Tyson whipped the nigger in

3164
03:30:32,040 --> 03:30:34,240
Speaker 1: the ring for the money and then beat the nigga

3165
03:30:34,280 --> 03:30:44,600
Speaker 1: up in real life ring. Great and in the world realized,

3166
03:30:45,680 --> 03:30:49,320
Speaker 1: what is this place that people go to at night?

3167
03:30:49,800 --> 03:30:58,280
Speaker 1: And Bobby Ground is sniff and coke same Bobby. It's wrong.

3168
03:30:58,920 --> 03:31:01,520
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say Bobby honest different core because you thought

3169
03:31:01,560 --> 03:31:04,760
Speaker 1: he was siffing something else. No, he thought he was

3170
03:31:04,800 --> 03:31:08,840
Speaker 1: stiffing coke. I just said it. Bobby Brown was stiffing coke.

3171
03:31:16,400 --> 03:31:21,760
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown is hitting out with the Bobby Joe way

3172
03:31:21,840 --> 03:31:25,440
Speaker 1: before birthday murder headed that Burnie and didn't have a

3173
03:31:25,800 --> 03:31:31,240
Speaker 1: no no, he had a solo Burdie the love he

3174
03:31:31,360 --> 03:31:36,920
Speaker 1: did something. His Joe was like this before that, way

3175
03:31:36,920 --> 03:31:41,360
Speaker 1: before that. I don't know what you're talking about, so

3176
03:31:41,520 --> 03:31:44,680
Speaker 1: didn't Dapper Dan is doing this and they come in

3177
03:31:44,800 --> 03:31:48,120
Speaker 1: on them. How do you have Mike Tyson beating up

3178
03:31:48,200 --> 03:31:53,080
Speaker 1: nigs the heavyweight champion of the world. Wow, he used

3179
03:31:53,080 --> 03:31:56,760
Speaker 1: to explain it. He can't explain it. They shut him down.

3180
03:31:57,400 --> 03:32:01,440
Speaker 1: They shut down Dapper Dad, but he made Louis Vinton

3181
03:32:02,040 --> 03:32:09,199
Speaker 1: and Gucci and mc n everything that young urban black

3182
03:32:09,520 --> 03:32:15,920
Speaker 1: and tinos niggas. None of us can fitticize too. I

3183
03:32:16,040 --> 03:32:18,040
Speaker 1: may be bigger than all yall niggas, but none of

3184
03:32:18,120 --> 03:32:23,000
Speaker 1: y'all can fitticize toil. They were making size tools. He

3185
03:32:23,160 --> 03:32:26,760
Speaker 1: was making custom made sweatsuits for all of us, and

3186
03:32:26,800 --> 03:32:30,640
Speaker 1: they shut him down. And I figured out twenty five

3187
03:32:30,800 --> 03:32:32,800
Speaker 1: thirty years later, we're gonna get it back, and then

3188
03:32:32,840 --> 03:32:35,000
Speaker 1: we get it back and then we open up a

3189
03:32:35,080 --> 03:32:40,119
Speaker 1: DApp of dance Stone Gucci in in the hall Gucci,

3190
03:32:40,720 --> 03:32:45,000
Speaker 1: and we're using sock all the prints from eighty two

3191
03:32:45,080 --> 03:32:48,400
Speaker 1: to eighty five. That's what we're doing. We're making dap

3192
03:32:48,520 --> 03:32:51,400
Speaker 1: of damn ship and that's what we're gonna do it.

3193
03:32:51,520 --> 03:32:58,240
Speaker 1: This isn't matter as a person, like as a person

3194
03:32:58,600 --> 03:33:01,440
Speaker 1: just looking from the outside in, I felt like you

3195
03:33:01,640 --> 03:33:06,440
Speaker 1: went crazy on Instagram at first because they had actually

3196
03:33:06,560 --> 03:33:10,160
Speaker 1: had a Louis Batton. Did I gonna do that kind

3197
03:33:10,200 --> 03:33:16,640
Speaker 1: of Instagram hard? I don't do that. I'm not asking

3198
03:33:17,240 --> 03:33:21,400
Speaker 1: hard J. Yeah, Yeah, you weren't hard hard. What did

3199
03:33:21,480 --> 03:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I do? This is what I really wish. I went wish,

3200
03:33:24,200 --> 03:33:28,720
Speaker 1: I ain't your number? Are you gonna get your chance? Like?

3201
03:33:28,920 --> 03:33:31,800
Speaker 1: Because it was like it was something man, it was

3202
03:33:31,920 --> 03:33:37,600
Speaker 1: like it was a Loui baton. It wasn't that I

3203
03:33:37,760 --> 03:33:41,800
Speaker 1: wanted to say sort anyone. I don't want to be

3204
03:33:42,000 --> 03:33:47,040
Speaker 1: I want to be the guy I want to I

3205
03:33:47,120 --> 03:33:49,320
Speaker 1: want to be a guy who I want to move

3206
03:33:49,400 --> 03:33:52,240
Speaker 1: coach for. I don't want to be disrespectful and if

3207
03:33:52,320 --> 03:33:56,320
Speaker 1: I was wrong and where I approached it, I didn't

3208
03:33:56,320 --> 03:33:57,879
Speaker 1: want to do that. I'm not gonna let this guy

3209
03:33:57,959 --> 03:34:02,160
Speaker 1: get robbed. I'm not gonna let you get robbed. If

3210
03:34:02,160 --> 03:34:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you get robbed, somebody starts this thing

3211
03:34:05,000 --> 03:34:08,120
Speaker 1: right now. They put three guys here into a version

3212
03:34:08,200 --> 03:34:11,200
Speaker 1: of this show, right and all of a sudden there's

3213
03:34:11,200 --> 03:34:16,320
Speaker 1: a Lando Bloom and fucking Tom Cruise some other guys.

3214
03:34:17,480 --> 03:34:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm one's to take my show on you sitting here

3215
03:34:22,520 --> 03:34:25,560
Speaker 1: saying that we're doing drink Champs. I'd be like, yo,

3216
03:34:25,640 --> 03:34:28,680
Speaker 1: that ship is fun. That they robbed the niggas who

3217
03:34:28,720 --> 03:34:32,800
Speaker 1: had that original idea drinking and talking. I don't like

3218
03:34:32,959 --> 03:34:37,240
Speaker 1: that type of ship. That's right, And my job it's

3219
03:34:37,240 --> 03:34:40,520
Speaker 1: to never let that type of ship sustain itself without

3220
03:34:40,600 --> 03:34:44,640
Speaker 1: me saying it. I can't stop it, that's fine, but

3221
03:34:44,720 --> 03:34:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna definitely say something about it. It's my job,

3222
03:34:48,480 --> 03:34:51,680
Speaker 1: thank you. The success of this show is not my job.

3223
03:34:52,640 --> 03:34:54,640
Speaker 1: The fact that no one can rob you of what

3224
03:34:54,760 --> 03:35:04,080
Speaker 1: you guys invented this. My job got there, Chris. And

3225
03:35:04,320 --> 03:35:10,400
Speaker 1: that's the parts the show. Okay, I'm not talking no more, no, no,

3226
03:35:11,040 --> 03:35:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about I gotta in the show stout.

3227
03:35:15,360 --> 03:35:18,480
Speaker 1: This is the thing. Let's put it back here. I

3228
03:35:18,560 --> 03:35:21,400
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta to big you off. I have to

3229
03:35:21,480 --> 03:35:23,600
Speaker 1: beg you off. I have to beg your I have

3230
03:35:23,720 --> 03:35:25,959
Speaker 1: to be you up. Listen, listen. Let me tell you something.

3231
03:35:27,560 --> 03:35:30,600
Speaker 1: In the hip hop we have to start saluting the people.

3232
03:35:30,680 --> 03:35:36,560
Speaker 1: That's more behind the scenes people will only salute damn you.

3233
03:35:41,120 --> 03:35:44,800
Speaker 1: So we love you, Stout. Thank you for coming ahead.

3234
03:35:45,240 --> 03:35:51,080
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Don't don't don't us

3235
03:35:51,160 --> 03:35:53,520
Speaker 1: like damn I don't know what Stout invited me to.

3236
03:35:54,440 --> 03:35:59,920
Speaker 1: He's he's more right, he really he's good man a

3237
03:36:00,080 --> 03:36:09,360
Speaker 1: right first year guys. Listen, everybody, you good. I'll shot

3238
03:36:09,440 --> 03:36:12,640
Speaker 1: of your ship. Whenever you pick up he's good, I

3239
03:36:12,720 --> 03:36:16,000
Speaker 1: will tell you I am thankful. Yeah. I love what

3240
03:36:16,080 --> 03:36:20,120
Speaker 1: you guys are doing being here watching this whole thing

3241
03:36:20,200 --> 03:36:23,240
Speaker 1: come together. This ship is though. Let's let's all pick

3242
03:36:23,320 --> 03:36:31,760
Speaker 1: up ourselves. Man. I got this, I got this. I

3243
03:36:31,879 --> 03:36:35,920
Speaker 1: love the job. I love the job. My job to

3244
03:36:36,280 --> 03:36:39,199
Speaker 1: push your forward. I love the job. That's my job.

3245
03:36:40,000 --> 03:36:44,680
Speaker 1: It's my job. I front you gotta stop talking. Your

3246
03:36:44,760 --> 03:36:49,640
Speaker 1: mustache the sun get you guys. Let him get away

3247
03:36:49,640 --> 03:36:54,640
Speaker 1: with this mustache and Miami mustache a right, real list

3248
03:36:56,879 --> 03:37:01,800
Speaker 1: keep going on, amost you see Joe who told me brother,

3249
03:37:01,959 --> 03:37:08,760
Speaker 1: he texted me Stout. You know how easily your fun

3250
03:37:09,800 --> 03:37:12,720
Speaker 1: is good. Much is good. I don't know what's going

3251
03:37:17,120 --> 03:37:28,280
Speaker 1: each other. This is what we do as queens. Why

3252
03:37:28,320 --> 03:37:35,080
Speaker 1: don't we we ended peacefully and stout. I appreciate everything

3253
03:37:35,200 --> 03:37:38,279
Speaker 1: that we could do as people and people keep it together.

3254
03:37:38,680 --> 03:37:41,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate what you did for hip hop. I appreciate

3255
03:37:41,280 --> 03:37:45,840
Speaker 1: with track Master messes. I appreciate how how y'alls people,

3256
03:37:46,240 --> 03:37:49,200
Speaker 1: And we fucking want to salute all legends. There's not

3257
03:37:49,440 --> 03:37:52,240
Speaker 1: one show in the world. You look at First Take

3258
03:37:52,480 --> 03:37:55,160
Speaker 1: you look at all this other ship these guys big

3259
03:37:55,280 --> 03:37:58,000
Speaker 1: uphold it is not even First Take Off, T and

3260
03:37:58,040 --> 03:38:01,920
Speaker 1: T with Charles Barkley and and what's this ship? Kenny Smith?

3261
03:38:02,560 --> 03:38:06,720
Speaker 1: Kenny Smith, Kenny Smith, what's that show? Okay, we didn't

3262
03:38:06,760 --> 03:38:08,960
Speaker 1: have that in the hip hop So that's what I

3263
03:38:09,040 --> 03:38:10,640
Speaker 1: wanted to big up. I wanted to big up the

3264
03:38:10,680 --> 03:38:13,400
Speaker 1: people that I respect, people that I loved, the people

3265
03:38:13,480 --> 03:38:17,480
Speaker 1: that put people in positions and make it work from there.

3266
03:38:17,840 --> 03:38:22,000
Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted to do. We never knew

3267
03:38:22,000 --> 03:38:25,280
Speaker 1: it was on. Yeah, we're like firefighters. Yeah we got

3268
03:38:25,360 --> 03:38:27,440
Speaker 1: the call. We just do what the funk. We gotta

3269
03:38:28,120 --> 03:38:30,640
Speaker 1: the truth, that's what we gotta do. But guess what

3270
03:38:31,200 --> 03:38:33,520
Speaker 1: I wanted you to know, in case you ever didn't

3271
03:38:33,560 --> 03:38:38,560
Speaker 1: know it, I respect, I really did space to face,

3272
03:38:41,440 --> 03:38:44,560
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew that every problem I've been had

3273
03:38:44,680 --> 03:38:48,040
Speaker 1: with you was because I was a young person. And

3274
03:38:48,160 --> 03:38:50,000
Speaker 1: that's the reason why I came to you and I

3275
03:38:50,240 --> 03:38:54,000
Speaker 1: talked to you and I told you I'm sorry because

3276
03:38:54,080 --> 03:38:56,840
Speaker 1: as a man, so I knew I wasn't a man.

3277
03:38:58,480 --> 03:39:00,920
Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't a man when I had a

3278
03:39:01,000 --> 03:39:05,800
Speaker 1: problem with So that has nothing to do with That

3279
03:39:05,959 --> 03:39:11,240
Speaker 1: was good. That was good everybody. Now, I want to

3280
03:39:11,320 --> 03:39:14,800
Speaker 1: do it before everybody because I'm man, and that's what

3281
03:39:14,959 --> 03:39:19,080
Speaker 1: a man does. When a man recognizes what happens in anything.

3282
03:39:19,680 --> 03:39:25,280
Speaker 1: And you've done amazing things in the hip hop, you

3283
03:39:25,400 --> 03:39:29,680
Speaker 1: continue to do amazing things that and you're not slap,

3284
03:39:29,879 --> 03:39:34,080
Speaker 1: not even you're not even stop good And you know what,

3285
03:39:34,600 --> 03:39:38,160
Speaker 1: this is what we do in drink Champs. We continue

3286
03:39:38,560 --> 03:39:42,760
Speaker 1: to respect the people. A good time, you listen because

3287
03:39:42,879 --> 03:39:45,080
Speaker 1: your first time to be your first time. This guy

3288
03:39:45,240 --> 03:39:48,880
Speaker 1: right here, I love him that he's the fucking man. Yeah,

3289
03:39:48,920 --> 03:39:51,720
Speaker 1: you had a good time. You show you have everything off.

3290
03:39:52,200 --> 03:39:57,800
Speaker 1: Who want to say something? You know you know we

3291
03:39:57,920 --> 03:40:01,560
Speaker 1: got we got you got everything. You obviously, don't hear

3292
03:40:01,560 --> 03:40:04,640
Speaker 1: what I said. It's not your first time here, because

3293
03:40:04,680 --> 03:40:06,640
Speaker 1: this is a whole of him to come back, and

3294
03:40:07,320 --> 03:40:10,680
Speaker 1: you will and you will say, you say these people

3295
03:40:10,760 --> 03:40:14,280
Speaker 1: like God, he's never coming back. I think he was

3296
03:40:15,840 --> 03:40:18,960
Speaker 1: like stout safe. We kept him safe. I gave him.

3297
03:40:19,879 --> 03:40:25,320
Speaker 1: I can't even believe that. You know what, what did

3298
03:40:25,400 --> 03:40:30,240
Speaker 1: I get? First? On man? He's thinking about it, he's

3299
03:40:30,280 --> 03:40:35,199
Speaker 1: thinking about Look, whis Man with the beard is looking like, listen,

3300
03:40:35,840 --> 03:40:38,800
Speaker 1: don't go into everybody territory. He's great. Did you know

3301
03:40:38,800 --> 03:40:42,280
Speaker 1: what he said? He said that Eminem body jay z

3302
03:40:43,080 --> 03:40:48,360
Speaker 1: he you know the thing that he did know you

3303
03:40:48,400 --> 03:40:51,680
Speaker 1: don't have his mike on the nine already and Eminem

3304
03:40:51,720 --> 03:41:01,080
Speaker 1: already had the song I'm not talking about. I didn't

3305
03:41:01,120 --> 03:41:03,520
Speaker 1: do everything else, everything else,