WEBVTT - We Recorded This Hours Before Dolly Passed <3 0:00:00.500 --> 0:00:02.719 Welcome back to Like a Virgin. I'm Rose D'Ami. 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:04.210 And I'm Fran Torado. 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:09.310 And as Zara Larson sang, summer isn't over yet. Wait, 0:00:09.350 --> 0:00:13.190 did you see she recently performed at some festival and 0:00:13.230 --> 0:00:16.390 while she was doing Midnight Sun, everyone in the crowd 0:00:16.610 --> 0:00:19.630 started getting up on people's shoulders and she was laughing 0:00:19.829 --> 0:00:25.650 so hard she couldn't sing the song. It's like so joyous. 0:00:26.070 --> 0:00:29.440 Serotonin in video form. Highly suggest everyone go watch it. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.490 immediately after either recording or listening to this episode. 0:00:34.110 --> 0:00:41.629 Zara Larsson is like quickly becoming this kind of like, like, 0:00:43.890 --> 0:00:47.820 United Colors of Benetton, like United Nations, kind of like 0:00:48.020 --> 0:00:55.250 universally beloved Eurovision entity that is like, and maybe Eurovision 0:00:55.290 --> 0:00:58.230 is the wrong word to use because of the, I 0:00:58.250 --> 0:01:02.850 guess like Israeli sympathist implications, if you know that tea. 0:01:02.990 --> 0:01:03.800 Fuck Eurovision. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:09.340 But, but just in the, the idea that she's, she's 0:01:09.380 --> 0:01:12.360 kind of has over the last year and this year 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:21.559 started to enter a like Ariana Grande level of like 0:01:21.740 --> 0:01:32.500 being like locked Ariana Grande 2019. Ariana Grande amidst her 0:01:32.620 --> 0:01:36.080 Pete Davidson breakup kind of levels of locked in. You 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.660 know what I mean? 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.500 I'm not really getting the comparison, but I understand what 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:43.020 you're saying. 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.880 My analysis was not super clear. Let's see if we 0:01:45.900 --> 0:01:48.059 can flesh it out, honestly, because I don't know that 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.640 much about Laura Larson, but she does kind of feel 0:01:50.670 --> 0:01:54.320 like a Swedish industry plant. I know that she literally 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.720 sounds like Rihanna, which is crazy. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.720 I don't think you can call her an industry plant. 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:04.700 She's been like a pop workhorse for a while, and 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.340 she just had a breakout. 0:02:06.050 --> 0:02:08.690 Moment in the last year. No, she just seems like 0:02:08.830 --> 0:02:11.130 one because she kind of seems to have like, she 0:02:11.169 --> 0:02:14.049 just looks like factory-made is what I should say. She 0:02:14.070 --> 0:02:16.750 looks so perfect. Her music is kind of like crack. 0:02:16.770 --> 0:02:18.150 I think that's just because she's Swedish. 0:02:18.570 --> 0:02:22.919 Yes, yes, yes. That's my point. And also like, Zara 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:29.000 kind of has like so many kind of billboard hot 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.370 100 songs that you are like, I've never heard a 0:02:32.430 --> 0:02:35.269 Zara Larson song. And then someone would play five for 0:02:35.290 --> 0:02:36.670 you and you're like, oh, I've heard that song. Oh, 0:02:36.710 --> 0:02:37.930 I've heard that song. Oh, I've heard that song. 0:02:37.950 --> 0:02:41.550 I gotta be honest. I don't really like any of 0:02:41.630 --> 0:02:46.769 her music except Midnight Sun and the, um, the, the 0:02:46.850 --> 0:02:47.890 Pink Pantherous remix. 0:02:47.990 --> 0:02:48.390 Yeah. 0:02:48.470 --> 0:02:56.260 It's, Like that's on ugly or whatever. Pretty girl, ugly girl. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:57.520 I don't know. Something about. 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.100 That's my ego boost. 0:02:59.419 --> 0:03:03.540 Yeah. Anyway, I didn't mean to start a whole conversation 0:03:03.580 --> 0:03:05.739 about Zara Larson. Cause I actually don't have that much 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.890 to say to her. So I want to, I want 0:03:07.930 --> 0:03:10.590 to redirect us by saying, I I'm sorry that I 0:03:10.669 --> 0:03:12.769 checked my email while we were recording, but I do 0:03:12.790 --> 0:03:15.150 want to let you know that I did just get 0:03:15.169 --> 0:03:19.650 a notification from our joint Patreon account, that Mr. Xtoon 0:03:19.750 --> 0:03:24.230 posted a remastered version of Hercules X Aladdin. 0:03:24.950 --> 0:03:28.810 Remastered? Wait, in 4K? What is that even, what is 0:03:28.850 --> 0:03:29.660 that offering? 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.960 I don't know. But if you are interested in hearing 0:03:33.060 --> 0:03:39.080 our thoughts on the resurrection of Mr. Xtoon, we did 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:43.390 just talk about it on a bonus episode that is 0:03:43.430 --> 0:03:46.680 dropping this week. on our Patreon feed. 0:03:46.900 --> 0:03:49.620 An extended explainer of the X-Tune drama. 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.040 Yes. 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Let me tell you, I do not know if 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:31.099 there's anything that is more exactly our news beat aside 0:04:31.140 --> 0:04:31.479 from Mr. 0:04:31.580 --> 0:04:31.680 X2. 0:04:31.820 --> 0:04:33.950 And, like, the opportunity to talk about that on the 0:04:33.990 --> 0:04:39.150 Patreon sublime, it is so uniquely at the intersection of 0:04:39.950 --> 0:04:47.040 our interest, our interest being... nerddom, pervdom, perversion, and transsexualism. 0:04:48.500 --> 0:04:52.860 And yeah, we're big. Look, now we subscribe to Mr. 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.800 X2 on Patreon. I did receive a text from Fran 0:04:55.839 --> 0:05:00.340 last week saying, I subscribe to Mr. X2 on Patreon. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:00.980 You're welcome. 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:05.400 You're welcome. I've never subscribed before. I just wanted to 0:05:05.460 --> 0:05:07.940 support an independent artist. Support queer art. 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.080 Protect queer art. 0:05:09.140 --> 0:05:11.710 Protect queer art. Or as he would like to put it, 0:05:12.270 --> 0:05:14.920 Gay sex. His passion for gay sex. 0:05:14.940 --> 0:05:17.039 For gay sex. I also have a passion for gay sex, 0:05:17.700 --> 0:05:20.020 despite being a woman. 0:05:20.420 --> 0:05:20.960 Hello. 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.520 So I'm going to be real with y'all virgins. We 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.260 are in the thick of Doll Invasion prep. Doll Invasion 0:05:30.420 --> 0:05:33.960 is this weekend. Fran is busier than she's ever been. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.560 I've also got a busy week. We're heading out to 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:41.170 the island on Thursday, so... we don't have a ton 0:05:41.450 --> 0:05:44.190 lined up to discuss this episode. It's also going to 0:05:44.230 --> 0:05:48.310 be kind of chatty and maybe who knows on the 0:05:48.390 --> 0:05:53.310 shorter side, we'll see how the convo goes. And next week, uh, 0:05:53.390 --> 0:05:55.930 we will not have a new episode. We will actually 0:05:56.029 --> 0:06:00.630 be running one of our Patreon bonus episodes on the 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.280 main feed. So you'll get a sneak peek of what 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:08.440 it's like over there, uh, which should entice you to subscribe, uh, 0:06:08.850 --> 0:06:13.270 And again, support queer art, support queer podcasts. Sorry, I 0:06:13.270 --> 0:06:18.810 don't want to call a podcast art. Never. But yeah, let's, 0:06:19.380 --> 0:06:21.000 I mean, first of all, Fran, how are you feeling 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.180 with Doll Invasion days away? 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.900 I am feeling so good. Obviously crazy. This is my 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.560 busiest month of the year. But, you know, if you're 0:06:30.580 --> 0:06:34.780 not familiar, Doll Invasion is a now annual take over 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.480 a fire island where well over a thousand trans people 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.880 descend over the course of the weekend in a fundraiser 0:06:42.100 --> 0:06:47.420 for Queer Art, which is a nonprofit that the organization 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:52.380 works with, providing intergenerational mentorship programs and grants for queer 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:57.380 and trans artists. This, I gotta say, if I'm just 0:06:57.430 --> 0:07:01.350 gonna take the opportunity to Even if you don't live 0:07:01.370 --> 0:07:03.570 in New York or you're not coming to Doll Invasion, 0:07:03.610 --> 0:07:06.789 to give you an idea of what it really looks like. 0:07:07.110 --> 0:07:08.430 And why you should donate. 0:07:08.710 --> 0:07:11.370 And why you should donate or why you should come, honestly. 0:07:11.410 --> 0:07:14.030 More than anything, I really want everybody to come. You 0:07:14.070 --> 0:07:16.910 don't need housing to come to Doll Invasion. We have 0:07:16.950 --> 0:07:21.230 a guide. On day trips, on our website, dollinvasion.org. 0:07:21.430 --> 0:07:24.410 It has never been easier to get to the island. 0:07:24.810 --> 0:07:28.710 Yeah, girly. I mean, to me, I mean, I don't know. 0:07:28.730 --> 0:07:31.630 I feel like this is like more affordable than people think. 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.240 But it also might be like, maybe this is a 0:07:36.260 --> 0:07:39.540 privileged thing to say, but splitting a lift is so easy, girl. 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:40.720 It really is. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:45.800 If you're going with a couple friends, and especially if 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.120 you're coming for a day trip, like a Saturday morning, 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.740 it's not as traffic-y, not as expensive as coming out 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:54.980 on a Friday. So if you split it with a 0:07:55.000 --> 0:08:00.550 couple girls, you could definitely spend, I don't know, at most, 0:08:00.670 --> 0:08:02.870 maybe $ 40. 0:08:01.890 --> 0:08:05.010 Yes, yes, if you're splitting it several ways. 0:08:05.610 --> 0:08:09.380 Which is a considerable amount of money, but For maybe an. 0:08:09.380 --> 0:08:12.600 Hour and a half drive for like a private car 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.860 service from Brooklyn to the Sayville Ferry Service, please. 0:08:16.100 --> 0:08:19.020 And you're already spending like $ 12 to $ 15 on a 0:08:19.060 --> 0:08:23.880 train ticket plus subway fare, cab fare to the train, whatever. 0:08:24.410 --> 0:08:26.950 It does make sense if you can get your friends together. 0:08:28.310 --> 0:08:31.150 Yeah. So, but yeah, everyone should try and do day trips. 0:08:31.210 --> 0:08:33.390 It's like the, it's the best, it is low key 0:08:33.429 --> 0:08:36.030 the best party on the island ever. It's one of 0:08:36.050 --> 0:08:39.740 the few times during the summer where actually good music 0:08:39.820 --> 0:08:45.080 is played on the island instead of top 40 faggotcore. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.679 And also just the demographic of the island literally changes 0:08:49.900 --> 0:08:51.580 for three days. It's really cool. 0:08:53.580 --> 0:08:58.400 It's the week of summer that I look forward to most. 0:08:58.470 --> 0:09:01.050 And my birthday's in the summer, so you know Doll 0:09:01.090 --> 0:09:01.930 Invasion is the tea. 0:09:04.090 --> 0:09:06.910 Doll Invasion is basically a follow-up to Rose Damu's birthday 0:09:06.990 --> 0:09:10.650 as the finale of the summer, but also a celebration 0:09:10.809 --> 0:09:11.569 of Rose Damu. 0:09:12.290 --> 0:09:16.439 Where I will be DJing three times throughout the weekend. 0:09:16.460 --> 0:09:19.179 I will be DJing daily. I've already had people in 0:09:19.220 --> 0:09:21.800 my DMs asking me when my set is so they 0:09:21.820 --> 0:09:26.620 can plan ahead. Honey, just show up. I'll probably be DJing. 0:09:26.900 --> 0:09:31.300 Yeah, that's kind of the tea. We also have DJs 0:09:31.340 --> 0:09:39.760 from San Francisco, from Houston, from London, from Philly, exotic Philly. Ooh, ah. Ah, 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.179 programming 58 hours of music. 0:09:42.500 --> 0:09:42.850 That's crazy. 0:09:42.870 --> 0:09:45.830 Really insane music festival vibes. 0:09:46.010 --> 0:09:50.990 Some great queens performing on, what is it, Friday? There's 0:09:50.990 --> 0:09:56.770 Baby T Invasion. Yes. That's very exciting. Tyler Ashley and Charlene. 0:09:56.770 --> 0:10:00.709 doing their you know, sort of gonzo drag show. 0:10:01.110 --> 0:10:04.270 Yes. Their version of Baby T for Doll Invasion is 0:10:04.330 --> 0:10:05.790 called Baby Doll. 0:10:06.770 --> 0:10:11.490 Baby Doll. Oh, that's so sweet. Speaking of dolls and 0:10:11.530 --> 0:10:15.620 Doll Invasion. Something very important was announced yesterday. It's that 0:10:15.660 --> 0:10:20.319 Monster High is releasing a Buffy the Vampire Slayer Skelector. 0:10:20.340 --> 0:10:21.720 Oh, shit. 0:10:21.940 --> 0:10:26.020 And it's Buffy and Angel, which, you know, if this 0:10:26.070 --> 0:10:29.390 had come out when I was 12, I would have loved. 0:10:29.990 --> 0:10:32.929 As an adult woman, I'm more of a Buffy spike shipper. 0:10:33.070 --> 0:10:35.990 And honestly, I don't think Buffy needs a man. She 0:10:36.010 --> 0:10:37.630 could have been sold by herself. 0:10:38.350 --> 0:10:39.580 But you did buy them. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:41.679 They haven't gone on sale yet. They go on sale 0:10:41.730 --> 0:10:43.040 next week. I will be buying them. 0:10:43.090 --> 0:10:44.109 They look really good. 0:10:44.309 --> 0:10:47.870 Yeah. Her face, it looks like Sarah Michelle Gellar. And also, 0:10:48.090 --> 0:10:52.290 the same day, a Buffy Polly Pocket set is being dropped, 0:10:52.750 --> 0:10:54.890 which I will also be buying. And it does make 0:10:54.929 --> 0:10:59.709 me wonder if all this stuff was put into production 0:11:00.410 --> 0:11:06.780 when it looked like the reboot was happening. Oh. And 0:11:06.860 --> 0:11:12.260 now it's not. Because also... I saw there's a Buffy 0:11:12.500 --> 0:11:17.829 children's book that's coming out. All of this ancillary merch, 0:11:18.250 --> 0:11:22.750 which I'm guessing could be for millennials who are now 0:11:22.790 --> 0:11:29.290 having kids. That's a huge market. I'm seeing my brother 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:33.640 and his wife go through it with Harry Potter for 0:11:33.660 --> 0:11:38.860 my nephew, which is unfortunate. But I do think that 0:11:39.300 --> 0:11:43.410 They were, you know, maybe anticipating this sort of Buffy 0:11:43.450 --> 0:11:49.430 renaissance that, you know, is always happening for me, but 0:11:49.830 --> 0:11:52.750 is not necessarily happening on a larger cultural platform. 0:11:53.950 --> 0:11:58.720 Mad props to the hustle slash light grift of whoever 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.960 is licensing Buffy. It's Disney. 0:12:01.980 --> 0:12:03.140 Disney owns Buffy. 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.080 Oh, so like, then I kind of love that they 0:12:06.100 --> 0:12:08.260 were kind of like, yeah, you can have this license. Yeah, 0:12:08.300 --> 0:12:10.020 you can make a doll. Yeah, you can make this 0:12:10.059 --> 0:12:14.130 children's book, probably fully knowing that it was Ova Canova Shanova. 0:12:15.429 --> 0:12:18.510 But yeah, the Buffy of it all, like, first of all, 0:12:18.590 --> 0:12:23.980 these dolls, extremely affordable, affordable. For two, two for a 0:12:24.020 --> 0:12:24.980 hundred bucks, baby. 0:12:25.340 --> 0:12:25.680 I know. 0:12:25.980 --> 0:12:27.080 You'll have to be a member. 0:12:27.100 --> 0:12:31.220 People are pissed about Angel's molded hair rather than rooted hair. 0:12:31.580 --> 0:12:33.380 I don't really care. I don't really see it for 0:12:33.420 --> 0:12:33.940 him anyway. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.970 No, I mean, it makes sense to me to be molded. 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:37.490 He's a boy. 0:12:37.750 --> 0:12:40.230 And then, okay. A thing that I don't, I don't 0:12:40.370 --> 0:12:42.530 love Monster High. I have a few Monster High dolls. 0:12:42.570 --> 0:12:44.589 Like I have an alien one that they released last 0:12:44.610 --> 0:12:47.170 year of the Xenomorph. And one thing that they do 0:12:47.230 --> 0:12:49.570 that annoys me is they have these, this thing that 0:12:49.590 --> 0:12:51.860 they do with the shoes that, where the shoes, the 0:12:51.890 --> 0:12:54.460 heels are always like an object. So like on the 0:12:54.500 --> 0:12:57.480 Buffy shoe, the heels are like the scythe that she 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.520 gets at the end of the final season. And it's like, 0:12:59.660 --> 0:13:00.840 just give her a boot. 0:13:01.540 --> 0:13:03.720 Yeah. Just give her a boot, please. 0:13:03.940 --> 0:13:06.280 Buffy was always slaying in a sensible boot. 0:13:06.700 --> 0:13:06.960 Yeah. 0:13:07.020 --> 0:13:08.780 Sometimes a not so sensible boot. 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:13.980 Much like Emma Watson's, you know, creative influence on the 0:13:14.020 --> 0:13:16.980 live action Beauty and the Beast, women are not in heels. 0:13:17.260 --> 0:13:20.969 They're in boots. Okay. God, I will. 0:13:20.530 --> 0:13:24.750 Never forgive her for what she contributed to that film 0:13:24.790 --> 0:13:30.849 by making Belle uncorseted and in that disgusting yellow chiffon dress. 0:13:31.100 --> 0:13:33.559 Was that like basically the end of Emma Watson's career? 0:13:33.660 --> 0:13:35.040 I mean, she basically... Well, she was. 0:13:35.020 --> 0:13:35.640 In Little Women. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:36.920 Oh, right. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.100 And also she literally... And now she has a whiskey brand, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:39.620 I believe. 0:13:39.980 --> 0:13:42.820 Oh, God. I mean, of course she, after Harry Potter, 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:47.290 literally never has to work again. So she went to college. Oh, no, 0:13:47.309 --> 0:13:49.189 that was during Harry Potter. I forgot about that. 0:13:49.390 --> 0:13:53.069 Okay, I guess since we've invoked it, I do kind 0:13:53.130 --> 0:13:56.730 of want to talk about the recent, you know, Harry 0:13:56.770 --> 0:13:57.730 Potter casting news. 0:13:57.750 --> 0:13:58.370 Yeah, we must. 0:13:59.710 --> 0:14:03.320 So we all know that this new Harry Potter series 0:14:03.390 --> 0:14:05.320 is coming out on HBO Max at the end of 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.280 the year. It has been very disappointing to see a 0:14:08.340 --> 0:14:14.970 lot of big name Hollywood actors lend their, you to 0:14:15.190 --> 0:14:18.890 a vehicle that will only make JK Rowling richer and 0:14:18.910 --> 0:14:24.000 make her more able to fund discrimination suits against trans people. 0:14:24.100 --> 0:14:27.440 There is literally, I don't know if people listening know this, 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:32.480 JK Rowling has a website where people can apply for 0:14:32.740 --> 0:14:39.160 money to fund lawsuits against their workplaces who insist on 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:44.090 creating single single sex bathroom spaces or who allow trans 0:14:44.110 --> 0:14:47.400 people to use their bathrooms. So anyone who doesn't think 0:14:47.460 --> 0:14:50.720 that JK Rowling is profiting off this new series and 0:14:50.780 --> 0:14:53.880 directly using that money to fund her transphobia is wrong. 0:14:54.020 --> 0:14:58.300 And that is proven. She says it herself. So the 0:14:58.420 --> 0:15:01.540 biggest hit recently was it was announced that Nicholas Holt, 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.850 who is definitely one of the sort of like internet boyfriends, 0:15:04.930 --> 0:15:08.700 like white guy of the month kind of, And up 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.640 until this moment, a kind of unproblematic fave. Yes, who 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.780 wore leather pants last year on the Superman press tour 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:18.760 and was really hot. He was announced to be playing 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:23.110 Gilderoy Lockhart in the second season of the Harry Potter show. 0:15:23.230 --> 0:15:29.930 Everyone was very disappointed. And then just yesterday, that was revoked. 0:15:30.530 --> 0:15:34.030 We were told... that he was backing out due to 0:15:34.110 --> 0:15:39.750 scheduling issues sure kit harrington aka john snow would be 0:15:40.010 --> 0:15:43.650 taking over which i think is hilarious because kid herring 0:15:43.710 --> 0:15:49.550 is also in the audible harry potter uh like audio 0:15:49.580 --> 0:15:54.040 drama that has also created a lot of um you 0:15:54.060 --> 0:15:58.890 know messiness for actors there's a There's a production series 0:15:59.110 --> 0:16:02.210 of all of the Harry Potter books with full casts. 0:16:02.350 --> 0:16:05.630 That's how the Keira Knightley drama started because she was 0:16:05.690 --> 0:16:09.810 cast in it. So he clearly doesn't give a fuck. Well, 0:16:10.030 --> 0:16:12.530 who did Kit play in the audio drama? 0:16:12.550 --> 0:16:12.890 Do you know? 0:16:12.910 --> 0:16:14.430 I don't know, actually. 0:16:14.810 --> 0:16:20.510 I'll look it up. But I, of course, it would be, sorry, 0:16:21.090 --> 0:16:22.410 a gay guy that does this. 0:16:23.010 --> 0:16:25.490 Kit Harington is not gay. Girl. Girl. 0:16:26.470 --> 0:16:27.070 He's gay. 0:16:27.230 --> 0:16:29.800 Do you think so? He's married to Ygritte from Game 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:30.320 of Thrones. 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.000 Gay guys love to get married to women. 0:16:33.020 --> 0:16:35.300 What is your evidence that he's gay? 0:16:35.540 --> 0:16:37.800 Well, he looks like a gay guy and he kind 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.640 of talks and acts like a gay guy. 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.280 I think that's just because he's British. Oh, wait. 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.900 Am I mistaking him for the other Game of Thrones 0:16:43.940 --> 0:16:44.510 gay guy? 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:45.680 Probably. 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.780 Who's the other gay guy from Game of Thrones who's 0:16:49.850 --> 0:16:52.550 also a gay guy and looks exactly the same but 0:16:52.570 --> 0:16:53.770 has a different name? 0:16:53.970 --> 0:16:54.590 Richard Madden. 0:16:55.010 --> 0:16:57.830 Richard Madden. I always get them confused. 0:16:58.130 --> 0:16:58.850 Different person. 0:16:58.890 --> 0:17:00.770 But Richard Madden's actually gay, right? 0:17:01.550 --> 0:17:04.030 Well, allegedly. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. 0:17:04.090 --> 0:17:06.359 I mean, I was speculating. But I literally thought that 0:17:06.380 --> 0:17:07.840 was verified. It's not. 0:17:07.890 --> 0:17:11.340 But it's sort of like an open secret. Yeah, he's 0:17:11.460 --> 0:17:16.619 like Anderson Cooper-ing. Kit Harington is very heterosexual. He was 0:17:16.859 --> 0:17:21.280 on the most recent season of Industry. The most recent 0:17:21.460 --> 0:17:25.330 two seasons of Industry as Yasmin's. Fail husband. 0:17:25.350 --> 0:17:26.690 He was so good, unfortunately. 0:17:26.869 --> 0:17:28.190 He was so good. And he's going to be on 0:17:28.230 --> 0:17:31.570 the final season. But now he's dead to us. 0:17:32.090 --> 0:17:34.590 Yeah. He played Lockhart in the audio drama as well, 0:17:34.609 --> 0:17:35.690 by the way. Oh, okay. 0:17:35.780 --> 0:17:39.480 So that makes sense. And I'm sure he's making a 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.920 lot of money. And that is not a reason to 0:17:43.980 --> 0:17:44.840 take a job like this. 0:17:44.859 --> 0:17:45.780 Yeah. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:52.980 After the Nicholas Holt casting... Ali Panku, who is, I think, 0:17:53.020 --> 0:17:56.040 a mutual of both of ours, is a very well-known 0:17:56.060 --> 0:18:02.750 career director, revealed that she had been asked to direct 0:18:02.810 --> 0:18:07.130 an episode of the show, and she screenshotted the text 0:18:07.570 --> 0:18:10.450 exchange between her and her agent in which they asked her, 0:18:10.890 --> 0:18:13.609 and her response was, absolutely fucking not. 0:18:14.190 --> 0:18:15.010 Love! 0:18:15.170 --> 0:18:18.869 That was it. Sickening. And in that post, she said, 0:18:19.550 --> 0:18:24.369 It is simply this easy to say no to funding transphobia. 0:18:24.530 --> 0:18:26.690 By the way, this is a director who, for the 0:18:26.750 --> 0:18:30.880 most part, directs TV episodes. It's definitely a working director, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.879 but I'm sure needs the work, needs the money. 0:18:34.060 --> 0:18:34.879 Harry Potter. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:39.540 Needs the credits. And still said no. Because it is 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.129 that easy. So if it's that easy for someone at 0:18:43.210 --> 0:18:48.150 that level to say no, someone like Nicholas Holt, who 0:18:48.619 --> 0:18:51.179 Although he backed out, said yes in the first place, 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.320 Nicholas Holt or Kit Harington, who have millions of dollars 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.720 from these fucking franchise movies and TV shows that they do, 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.160 they could say no just as easily. And so could 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.510 you to watching the show. Yeah. 0:19:03.810 --> 0:19:05.770 I mean, well, the thing is, Rose and I are 0:19:05.790 --> 0:19:07.950 going to watch it for you, so you don't have to. 0:19:07.970 --> 0:19:10.430 We're going to watch a pirated version. 0:19:10.450 --> 0:19:12.310 We need to have a conversation about this. 0:19:12.330 --> 0:19:14.290 Okay, so maybe we won't. But I feel like if 0:19:14.330 --> 0:19:19.370 we pirated it and then annotated it, Like, that's ethical. 0:19:20.750 --> 0:19:25.320 For me, it's become less about it being ethical and 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.399 more about how I would feel talking about it. 0:19:27.580 --> 0:19:30.660 Well, I think the most important thing to be said 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.879 is that it's going to be fucking bad and boring. 0:19:34.100 --> 0:19:35.159 Oh, absolutely. 0:19:35.369 --> 0:19:37.729 And so it's really not worth any of our time 0:19:38.030 --> 0:19:40.970 at all, even though it is tempting to hate watch. 0:19:41.350 --> 0:19:41.910 And you know what? 0:19:42.550 --> 0:19:44.729 It's coming out at the end of this year, but 0:19:44.770 --> 0:19:48.450 what's coming out before it is the Gilded Age season four, 0:19:48.470 --> 0:19:52.830 which it was announced today is premiering November 1st. So 0:19:52.850 --> 0:19:55.750 why watch Harry Potter when you could watch The Gilded Age? 0:19:56.230 --> 0:19:59.340 And mind you, when you watch an episode of The 0:19:59.380 --> 0:20:03.460 Gilded Age this upcoming season, you will know that these 0:20:03.619 --> 0:20:07.420 actors in a single episode are breathing the same air 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:08.400 as Rose Damu. 0:20:08.810 --> 0:20:12.810 Yes, and likely made a hundredth of what the people 0:20:12.869 --> 0:20:14.330 on the Harry Potter show are making. 0:20:14.710 --> 0:20:17.650 Yes, exactly. Exactly. 0:20:18.290 --> 0:20:20.730 But we love them for it. Except maybe for Cynthia Nixon, 0:20:20.780 --> 0:20:23.480 although I'm sure she took a pay cut. Right. 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:26.280 Oh, I forgot that Cynthia Nixon is joining. That's going 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:28.000 to be... No, she... Oh, I... Oh my God, when 0:20:28.020 --> 0:20:30.820 you said Cynthia Nixon, I thought Cynthia Erivo. I was like, 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:32.220 Cynthia Erivo is going to be in the Gilded Age? 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.260 That sounds great. I would love that, honestly. 0:20:35.500 --> 0:20:37.550 She could be a friend of Peggy's, but the thing is, 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.650 she would have to take out her fucking nose ring 0:20:40.070 --> 0:20:42.930 and not have nails. And I don't think she would 0:20:43.050 --> 0:20:44.350 ever do either of those things. 0:20:44.890 --> 0:20:47.110 She didn't have a nose ring in Wicked, though. I know, 0:20:47.140 --> 0:20:51.650 but she literally always has it on every fucking red carpet. Famously, 0:20:51.770 --> 0:20:54.710 she has, like, you know, a dozen piercings in each ear, 0:20:54.810 --> 0:20:57.710 and instead of removing the piercings, she got a prosthetic 0:20:57.869 --> 0:20:59.050 ear put over her ear. 0:20:59.270 --> 0:21:02.730 That's crazy. I guess, well, her ears need to be green, so, like, 0:21:02.810 --> 0:21:04.310 it kind of makes sense for Wicked. 0:21:04.330 --> 0:21:07.970 Yeah, it's like, why not? But the other, I will say, like, 0:21:08.070 --> 0:21:11.790 Cynthia Erivo, like, I've never seen Gilded Age really, like, 0:21:12.090 --> 0:21:15.390 a full episode, but Cynthia Erivo has the kind of, like, 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:20.700 actorial stage drama kind of like acting style that I 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:22.960 think would work for a Gilded Age kind of moment. 0:21:22.980 --> 0:21:27.720 I could maybe see her playing like Peggy's friend or like. 0:21:27.780 --> 0:21:30.139 She would play a gay girl for sure. Yeah, she 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:32.030 would play like a bombshell. 0:21:31.570 --> 0:21:34.689 Lesbian love interest. Although I would rather if Peggy and 0:21:34.930 --> 0:21:36.270 Marion got together. 0:21:36.290 --> 0:21:37.949 Yeah, we're shipping. 0:21:38.970 --> 0:21:42.250 We're shipping characters Fran has no idea who they are. 0:21:42.770 --> 0:21:44.670 I know that they are women. 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.240 That's true. And that's all that matters. 0:21:48.820 --> 0:21:49.260 Exactly. 0:21:49.820 --> 0:21:53.840 Last week when we were recording our bonus episode, Fran 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:59.350 and I watched X-Men The Last Stand. What is there 0:21:59.369 --> 0:22:02.330 to say? While I do think we're going to save 0:22:03.250 --> 0:22:07.629 our more in-depth thoughts for a future bonus episode on X-Men... 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:13.900 as we're about to be entering the X-Men era with 0:22:13.980 --> 0:22:20.810