1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Obviously every scenes into this exciting and different. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: This year is this whole lead up to the draft 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: with you know, another three pick and the quarterbacks dooming out? There? 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Was it even more you know, spicy or exciting or 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: interesting for you when you guys. 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't say it's more spicy. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 4: When you look at the draft process, we want to 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 4: attack it by one. 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 3: We had a. 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 4: Quarterback process, but all and we also have to look 11 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 4: at what's the best player available. And we're happy that 12 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 4: we landed with Abdul. We had two years of watching 13 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 4: great tape with him, see him play off the ball 14 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 4: but also the rusher, and then getting together with Shane 15 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 4: and Daves and figuring out how can you be multiple 16 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 4: in our defense and you know, help our rush because 17 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 4: that was a big emphasis rush, coverage, versatility, you know, 18 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: creating turnovers. 19 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: So he helped solve that. 20 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: You've talked about that. You've talked about that in the past. 21 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 5: The idea of making sure the scouting staff, you know, 22 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 5: personnel staff, and the coaching staff are all on the 23 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 5: same page, so you know, if you're considering drafting. 24 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: A player, what will they do with that player? 25 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 5: How important was it with with that duel because he 26 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 5: possesses such a diverse. 27 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Game that you want to see how. 28 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: He's going to be used in your system. Yeah, a 29 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: good question. Ark. 30 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 4: So when you look at Abdul's versatility, you know that 31 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 4: he can affect the quarterback multiple positions, and that was 32 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 4: the biggest thing. When you have Burns KT ab Dul, 33 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: how can you get you know, our best players in 34 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 4: our front set and aligned and on the field as 35 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: much as possible to help affect the quarterback. And I 36 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 4: think you know, when you look at his early tape 37 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: at Penn State, you can see him playing from stacked alignment. 38 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 4: When you have a premium athlete like a duel, he 39 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: can rush from a stack linebacker position, or he can 40 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: rush you know, over a guard or the same thing 41 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: with Burns gives you the versatility to flip flop and 42 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: with Kt to create the best matchup on a week 43 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 4: to week basis. So the ability to be multiple was, 44 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 4: you know, really advantageous for us in terms of evaluating 45 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: a dual actually seeing true application of it. 46 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: You know, it's not a hypothetical projection. We've seen it. 47 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: You graduate a quarterback process. 48 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: I was just wondering, what's your contributions to that process. 49 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: How do you look at it like what was what 50 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: was your you know part in that? 51 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you want to say it's it was a 52 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: comprehensive and like arduous process where you kind of look 53 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 4: at the coaching staff and the scouts. We're on it 54 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 4: on two different timelines. When you look at the quarterbacks 55 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: from the scouting perspective, we have two years of a 56 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: book of business of seeing these guys live where the 57 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: coaches get to the off season they're playing catch up 58 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: for us. And then we have the touch points of 59 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: the All Star games as well as the private workouts, 60 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 4: the thirty visits, you know, combine and then when you 61 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: have the process, you know, the culbination as you kind. 62 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: Of build this funnel. 63 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: As you get later later in the spring, you get 64 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: to watch tape together, figure out what best fits, what 65 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: are the non negotiables and understand you know, what's going 66 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: to play at a premium in the system and what 67 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: can be emphasized based on Dave's vision. So the collaborative process, 68 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: like I said, it's long. This is our you know, 69 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: second year in a row doing a deep dive into it, 70 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 4: and you know, we're happy that Jackson's a guy and 71 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 4: the way that we came away with it. 72 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: At what point, at what point did you did you 73 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: process with Jackson? At what point did you kind of 74 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: say that that guy could work for us? 75 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 76 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: I think when you when you look at these players, 77 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: I say like they are their walking resume. So every 78 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 4: benchmark matters and contributes to know how they would fit 79 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: for us. So obviously, you know, you have your two 80 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: years of tape with Jackson, and then you know, you 81 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: get to the Senior Bowl. We're lucky enough to have 82 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 4: coaches that were involved in coaching there. But the cool 83 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 4: part is when we got to Senior Bowl, we get 84 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: to sit down with other players and you talk to 85 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: them about, hey, if you have one guy you want 86 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: to bring to the NFL with you. Jackson was a 87 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: common theme that came about, and it was players from 88 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: different sides of the ball, so different sides of the ball, demographics. 89 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 4: He's got kind of that every man feel, which was 90 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: really unique. 91 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: And when you get. 92 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: Through the spring process and we do our you know, 93 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 4: aptitude testing and as well as our private workout, private dinners, 94 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: he was guy who checked all the boxes for us. 95 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: And we're happy, we're able to get them. 96 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: There was a conversations with Old Miss players or guys. 97 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: Mobile, guys at Mobile, you know, guys who at Mobile, 98 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: guys who played against him during the regular season, Guys 99 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: that were on the same team with them at Mobile 100 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 4: but not at Ole Miss. And then when we get 101 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 4: to your private workout and you have you know, all 102 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 4: your skill guys show up for you at a private workout, 103 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: it shows how they think about you as a teammate. 104 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: When you go to the Pro day and you know 105 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: he's cheering on Walter Nolan on the bench press and 106 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: he's there early when he's not even doing the lifting 107 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: portion of the workout. The guy see what kind of 108 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 4: equity he builds up with them, and he's got that 109 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: moxie where guys like to be around him. They're glad, 110 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: they gravitate towards him, and they see that he puts 111 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: the work in. So it was a glove fit for us. 112 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: Brandon. 113 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 6: Every year, Brandon, every year at the draft, you hear 114 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 6: somebody say, like, I thought this team, this team told 115 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 6: me they were going to draft me, and they didn't 116 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 6: draft me. How difficult is the fine line to walk 117 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 6: between showing a player love telling him you're interested in 118 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 6: him and not leading him on to believe he's your 119 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 6: guy that you're going. 120 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: To pack for sure. 121 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: Like when you look at when you get to the 122 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: combine or early in the process, it's you're still in 123 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: the fact finding part, right, you have a good feel 124 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 4: or you should have a good feel for what the 125 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: player is on the field, how he could fit into 126 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: your system from a just a skill set standpoint. But 127 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 4: then as you have these call it off season benchmarks, 128 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: you figure out the intangibles and you're you're negligent if 129 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 4: you make that decision on a player before you go 130 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 4: through the full uh you know, kitchen sync process with him. 131 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 4: So it's you know, how can he process? You know 132 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: what's the work ethic that he puts in, you know 133 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 4: what are his outside of football interests? You know what 134 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 4: drives him? What's the support system like? All those things 135 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: contribute to really what's his floor, what's his ceiling? Like 136 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 4: when you look at the at the end of the day, 137 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: we're looking at the draft, there's a lot of risk 138 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 4: analysis that goes on, and then you factor in the 139 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: medical component. So you find some of that medical component 140 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: stuff later on, which allows you to either creates you 141 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: an opportunity for a player, or it makes it more 142 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 4: risky than not to take the player. 143 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: You were talking about risk analysis. 144 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: What was the calculation with Jackson? 145 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: Like, you're sitting at three, you know you can get 146 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 4: him at three, and then obviously you take up to 147 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: because everything he said he does, and just not knowing 148 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 4: if Jackson's is gonna make it to wherever you end up, 149 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: you know, getting them. Yeah, well, I think when you 150 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: look at when you take, you know, a little land 151 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 4: he was. You know, for us, the talent was a 152 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 4: no brainer. You look at opportunity costs, right, what are 153 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 4: you what are you giving up potentially for the player 154 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 4: you're taking. And we with the help from NASA, which 155 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: is our analytics crew that weffectually call the NASA and 156 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 4: take our area scouts who they hear the word on 157 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: the street. You know, scouts talk and you hear from 158 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: other buildings where guys may be on the board, and 159 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 4: there's so much dead time in the spring before the draft, 160 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 4: you start to hear where guys potentially may fall. And 161 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: as we get all this information from agents all third 162 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: party sources, we figure, okay, what's our best opportunity to strike? 163 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: And we knew, you know, once we got into the twenties, 164 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: there's going to be an opportunity for Jackson. It was 165 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: going to be a hey, what striking point? And then 166 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: what would be the conversation we'd have to give up, you. 167 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 5: Know how but you know you and Joe work closely 168 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 5: together now to this point, so in that point you're 169 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 5: in the draft room. We got to see it after 170 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 5: the fact when the team released the video of Joe 171 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 5: and just can see the like, you know, I don't 172 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 5: know how I would describe it, but the emotions of 173 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 5: when do we pull the trigger, when do we know 174 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 5: it's the right opportunity, and then the relief when it 175 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 5: finally hits from someone who is in there, but also 176 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 5: just kind of how to watch it transpire. What did 177 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 5: that feel like to know that here's a quarterback and 178 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 5: we know how important they are that you guys like, 179 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 5: but you just don't know until you know when you 180 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 5: pull that trigger. 181 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: The first thing art. 182 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: I have to give my pass off for Joe for 183 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: how systematic and streamline our processes was where nothing happened 184 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: that we were surprised about. You know, leading up to 185 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: the draft, we have these strategy sessions where we go 186 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 4: through hypothetical scenarios. If we take a player early, if 187 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: we trade back back into one, what does that look like? 188 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: And it's almost like you no different than practicing. 189 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: You take those reps so when game day comes on 190 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 4: draft day, you're ready for whatever. There's no curveball surprise 191 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: or you're caught flat footed. So I think when you 192 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: get into the twenties, we knew there's going to be 193 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 4: striking opportunities and potential deals that could have been done 194 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: with multiple clubs, and we're happy that, you know, we're 195 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: able to keep pick sixty five and get Darris Alexander later. 196 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: And these are some of those scenarios we work through. 197 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: So just for it to come to fruition seeing that 198 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: sigh relief from Joe. Everything that we you know, planned 199 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 4: for doesn't always go according to plan, but this one 200 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: planned out the way that we did said hey, we 201 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 4: may be in this position, what does it look like? 202 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: And for the way that came together, we're really happy. 203 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 7: Brandon, You've been a part of the evaluation process of 204 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 7: a lot of players. Evan Deal is a guy who 205 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 7: this organization looked at and said he's a he's a 206 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 7: right tech you know, he's an offensive tackle and now 207 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 7: he's making a position change from a developmental and and 208 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 7: you know, a guy who looks at these guys and 209 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 7: tried to project, why can he be a good guard 210 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 7: in the NFL? 211 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think when you look at the job description 212 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: in our system for the guard, you know, can he 213 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 4: create movement at the line of scrimmage and he can 214 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: keep the interior firm and pass protection. We've seen Evan 215 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: do it before. We need flashes to be consistent and 216 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: he's been fully bought in with the move and just 217 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 4: knowing that, you know, leaning on your strength, there's not 218 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: that many men they're as big as he is inside 219 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: at guard and playing with better balance and calm and 220 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: James have been working with him throughout this spring and 221 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 4: Evan's putting in his work, so you know, we're excited 222 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: to see what he shows when the past come on 223 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: in training camp, but excited to see that he has 224 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: the physical tools and skill set to transition inside. We've 225 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 4: just seen us he consistently, he was he was, He's 226 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 4: obviously looks like a prototype tackle. 227 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: Does that six seven hurt him at guard or you know, 228 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: can he use that? You know, he's not many six 229 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: seven guards, So how does that translate? 230 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's shorter than sixty seven. But I get 231 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: what you're saying. He's a he's a big man. But 232 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: I think when you look at the prototype size, you 233 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: can look out throughout the lean you know, league, you 234 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 4: can look at offensive lines like Baltimore, et cetera. There 235 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: are guys that you know, some of the guys in 236 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: Philly that are larger than typical prototype. But it's you know, 237 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: what's the job description and the technique. You know, if 238 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: you're if you're asking him to pull out space and 239 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: a lot of redirecting at the second level, that is 240 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 4: not his game. But he is a power broker. These 241 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: guys that can create movement. He's a guy that can 242 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: absorb power and anchor in past protection. And you know, 243 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: we just have to keep improving the technique and working 244 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: on his hand usage and his balance. 245 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: And James and Krma committed to that. 246 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 8: We haven't met Evan Barnes and jam Likewise, what Darius 247 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 8: and Camp's got it. I'm just curious. You mentioned getting 248 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 8: two years of tape on Jackson and Abdual. I'm curious, 249 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 8: what's the process when you look at a guy like 250 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 8: Darius who's at a mid major school. If you say, 251 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 8: and then it's got to having really one big year. 252 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 8: What's the kind of the process of evaluating them and 253 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 8: seeing kind of how they can fit with maybe less film, 254 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 8: I guess. 255 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, So this is really the moment. It's the tips. 256 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 4: It hats off to our area Scouts because it's the 257 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: early identification, like they do a lot of the unseen work. 258 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 4: When you look at Dariulus Alexander, you look at brendan prophet, 259 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 4: identifying him early at Toledo when we see him play 260 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: against Pittsburgh and he's own drops and has the interception 261 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: and finding out the background that he once was an 262 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 4: offensive liignment, that he had coordinator changes, that he became 263 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: a father really early, a lot of the hidden work 264 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: that he's done in obstacles that he's overcome and come 265 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: on the right side him come showing up at Mobile 266 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 4: wasn't the first time we're getting exposure to him. So 267 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: it created an early you know, touch point and checkpoint. 268 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: And when you look at Scott, same thing. You know, 269 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: we we were hearing things about Scott when he's at 270 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 4: Sack State and you look at our area Scouts, Hannah Brunette, 271 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 4: you know, Jeremy. All those those two were really the 272 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: driving force in terms of identifying Scott early and not 273 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: just you know the highlights and the broken tackles that 274 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: you see, but the unseen stuff at practicing. Hey, he's 275 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 4: got some some things in the past games that are untapped. 276 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: And then you watch the call It Texas game and 277 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: you see him utilizing the past game a little bit more. 278 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: And when we go. 279 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: Through the process with him, you know, we weren't worried 280 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 4: about forty times or all those other things because we 281 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 4: had so many touch points and live looks in practice 282 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: that he wasn't a guy that popped on the scene late. 283 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 4: You know, we took him through the fall. We got 284 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 4: to see him live and we're happy. And that's the 285 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 4: things where preached for our scouts early identification. You know, 286 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: scout with your eyes, now with your ears and both 287 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 4: you know, both know the the scouts on the West 288 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 4: Coast and brunn and Profit with the tweedo work and 289 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: a long as our other scouts. They did a really 290 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 4: good job in the It's part of our you know, 291 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: our core values that you know, Dennis Hickey driving the 292 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 4: scouting process on the College side in terms of overseeing 293 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 4: a lot of the calendar work of how we divide 294 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 4: up the labor of going to schools early, then the 295 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: amount of looks each school gets, amount of live looks 296 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 4: each school gets. So there's a method to the imagine. 297 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: It's just it's a lot of unseen work that goes 298 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: on in the fall. 299 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 6: And Russell Wilson's body of works speaks for itself in 300 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 6: the league. But what convinced you all that at this 301 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 6: point in his career could be a good fit. 302 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: For what you're trying to do here. 303 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Russell's he's been a guy that when you 304 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 4: look at what he's done from Seattle to Pittsburgh, it 305 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: was a mesh and fit for our scheme. You know, 306 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: we knew we needed to push the ball down the 307 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 4: field a lot more. And uh, you guys have seen 308 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: it in practice. That's an ability and knack that is 309 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 4: unique for us. And now you look at the leadership 310 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: component when you see what Russ has done since he's 311 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 4: got here. Within the first two weeks, he's bringing Jalen 312 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 4: Hygat out to LA and they're working out privately, or 313 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 4: he's getting all the skill guys together down in Atlanta 314 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 4: earlier this week, scheduling the dinner with the O line 315 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 4: and running backs like that type of leadership component because 316 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: you remember, our new place has been really young throughout 317 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 4: our time here, and him having that veteran leadership on 318 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: the offensive side as well as having the ability to 319 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: compliment what they want to get done from the quarterback position. 320 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 3: It was a really good fit. 321 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 6: Chenisi brought back ninety one percent of your let's call 322 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 6: it a contributors. Guys played thirty percent or more of 323 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 6: offensive teams, of which is a really high number for 324 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 6: a team that won three games. Most teams would think you'd, 325 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 6: you know, reset the roster. Why did you do that? 326 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 6: Is that a faith in the guys you have that 327 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 6: they didn't play to their to their peak? 328 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: Is that a side of youth? 329 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 6: Like what do you see as bringing back so much 330 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 6: of a team that only won three games? 331 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: So that's the last thing that you mentioned, signed of youth. 332 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: That was the big big thing when you talking about 333 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: that ninety one percent. Think we only have you know, 334 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: six players left in the roster from when we got 335 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: here in twenty twenty two. But look how young the 336 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: nucleus is. So there are strategic additions in terms of 337 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: the A free agency. You know, you look at the secondary. 338 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: We had had one of the youngest secondaries in the league, 339 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: and you drop off, you know, Javon Holland, where we 340 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 4: loved his character even coming back at an Oregon and 341 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 4: knowing the job he did down in Miami. And then 342 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: you look at Paulson Adebo, a guy who wasn't for 343 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,119 Speaker 4: injury would have been amongst the league leaders in interceptions 344 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: last year. I'm having a strong character work that coming 345 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: out of you know, Stanford. So you look at two 346 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: guys that can help shape the secondary, and then you 347 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 4: look at the veteran pieces that we added on, you know, 348 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: the defensive line and in the front seven, so whether 349 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: it's Ghoston or Ledbetter or Roy Robinson Harris, the guys 350 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: that have skins on the wall that can help complement 351 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: our young group. And then obviously redoing the quarterback room 352 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: with having both Russ and Jamis experience was was paramount. 353 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: So I think, you know, when you look at our youth, 354 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: you know that is our nucleus, but help supplementing it 355 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: with leadership and versatility and guys that can help supplement 356 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: not just in age, in leadership, standpoint, but a versatility 357 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 4: and skill set standpoint? 358 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: What really important for us? 359 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 6: You mentioned it forty our dash before and not worrying 360 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 6: so much about scats forty times. How much has having 361 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 6: in game GPS times and acceleration percon how much has 362 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 6: that contributed to the scouting process and evaluation process. 363 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 4: So when you look at GPS data, you know, the 364 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: NNGS data, all the game dame metrics, it's all a 365 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: tool and our process, Like I mentioned NASA before, our 366 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: analytics department, Joe does a phenomenal job of including them 367 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 4: not only in the draft process but in free agency. 368 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: And you know, we can extrapolate certain metrics of hey, 369 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: does it correlate with the scouting report. You know when 370 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: our pro director Chris Rozzetti or any of our pro 371 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: scouts has a report on a guy in free agency 372 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: and you say, hey, you know he has you know, 373 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: third level speed and he can pull away or he 374 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: can do you know, he has sideline sideline speed and 375 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: you can close and and uh and you know cut 376 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 4: off backside. Does the data come you know it is 377 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: it contradictory or you know, is it giving it evidence 378 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 4: and support? So you know, when you look at the 379 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: data in itself, we're always finding ways to really call 380 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: it poke holes and have checks and balances in our processes. 381 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: So it's a supplemental tool and we're going to continue 382 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 4: to do it. We're going to continue to implement AI, 383 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: which we've talked about earlier this week, and they're all 384 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: things where if you're not taking advantage of all those tools, 385 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: there's another team who is, and you're being negligent. And 386 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: Joe's been really great in terms of opening the lines 387 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 4: of communication and being collaborative when we get to you know, 388 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: the chance to add different sources and tools help us 389 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 4: make decisions.