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Speaker 3: My boyfriend's stepmother confiscated our baby shower gifts in case

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Speaker 3: we break up, Just.

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Speaker 4: In case of emergency.

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Speaker 3: Me and my boyfriend had only been dating about two

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Speaker 3: months when we got the positive test. Oh wow, this

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Speaker 3: is a quick one, a quick one. We have now

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Speaker 3: been dating for about nine months. He has made it

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Speaker 3: clear that he never wanted kids and has been struggling

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Speaker 3: with parental anxiety, but has made it clear that he

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Speaker 3: would like to be involved in her life. By the way,

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Speaker 3: twenty some year olds as first time parents, these baby

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Speaker 3: showers will help us both financially to make things work

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Speaker 3: the best we can. It's been a really hard pregnancy

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Speaker 3: and it's just getting more difficult to work full time

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Speaker 3: as they get further along. We had previously considered living

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Speaker 3: together upon knowing the circumstances, but for financial and personal reasons,

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Speaker 3: our daughter will be staying full time with me at

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Speaker 3: my parents' house, which ended up being our only option

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Speaker 3: for the time being. My due date is August first,

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Speaker 3: and his lease for his apartment with his current roommates

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Speaker 3: ends on December first. It's important to know he has

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Speaker 3: two sets of parents, a step mom and biological father

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Speaker 3: that lived together, and a biological mother and stepdad. They

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Speaker 3: hosted a baby shower for me on June first. My

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Speaker 3: boyfriend's step mom, let's call her Jay, is married to

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Speaker 3: his biological father.

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Speaker 5: This baby shower was mostly for this side of the.

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Speaker 3: Family, his aunt's, uncles, cousins, grandparents, and great grandparents. We

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Speaker 3: received so many wonderful gifts and the baby shower was lovely.

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Speaker 5: Something strange happened at the end of the shower.

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Speaker 3: Though, Jay and his biological mother started hurriedly putting the

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Speaker 5: I was confused.

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Speaker 3: When me and my boyfriend had discussed what we were

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Speaker 3: going to do with the gifts after the party, we

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Speaker 3: possible in his car to not make it weird with

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Speaker 3: his relatives when any bigger items would go in my parents' suv.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing seemed weird to me, and the people

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Speaker 3: couldn't do anything. I was in his parents' house, surrounded

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Speaker 3: by his relatives. My boyfriend said that he thought that

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Speaker 3: she was just moving them out of the way. When

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Speaker 3: I asked him about it, this also seemed weird. Why

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Speaker 3: were the gifts just not brought to the cars? Jay

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Speaker 3: came up to me when she was about halfway done

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Speaker 3: putting the gifts away so I can make returns if

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Speaker 3: there are duplicates. Exchanges and thank yous on your behalf,

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Speaker 3: and they went back to quickly stashing away the gifts.

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Speaker 3: I received no duplicates out of the shower except for

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Speaker 3: two swings. But even then, why do I not get

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Speaker 3: This is where we both made a mistake, with us

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Speaker 3: both being equally confused and tired of from the festivities.

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Speaker 3: We left with no gifts his family was just as

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Speaker 3: you would imagine a twenty two year old's baby shower

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Speaker 5: I think we'd get the picture.

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Speaker 3: It was littered with comments such as get ready for

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Speaker 3: your life to end.

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Speaker 4: It's like say goodbye to the rest of your life.

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Speaker 5: See he'll be.

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Speaker 4: Sentenced to eighteen years on fatherhood.

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Speaker 3: Like that was so not what I was expecting. But

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Speaker 3: also say goodbye to your free time. Pretty much just

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Speaker 3: usual hassling that people receive from relatives, regardless of age,

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Speaker 3: which just made things so much worse with his anxiety

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Speaker 3: already about being a first time dad. I found out

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Speaker 3: later that she had decided that she would keep the

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Speaker 3: She chose to put them in her closet without even

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Speaker 3: letting one of us know that's what she planned to do.

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Speaker 3: I got a text from Jay about a week later

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Speaker 3: telling me that she had gotten everything split up between us.

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Speaker 3: I just got more confused. Do they not know that

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Speaker 3: Jay didn't agree with our living situation and told my

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Speaker 4: What which is tradition, the baby shower tradition?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, It's just strange to think that, Like, you know,

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Speaker 4: Right, It's just like, what's the real motive here, because

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Speaker 4: that doesn't make any sense. So are they selling it?

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Speaker 4: Are they dating cash? Are they giving it to another family?

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Speaker 4: Is there a black market underground baby shower gift like

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Speaker 4: network and they pass these around? They selling this stuff

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Speaker 3: Uhh, yeah, that's a Greek guys. The stuff gets add

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Speaker 3: up get expensive. His stepmom and dad wanted to make

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Speaker 3: sure that he had something after trying time and time

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Speaker 3: again to explain our situation to them and that if

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Speaker 3: December or later.

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Speaker 5: He works full time.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't worked at his current job long enough to

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Speaker 3: qualify for a paternity leave, meaning that I will be

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Speaker 3: He wants to see her every time that he can,

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Speaker 3: after work, on weekends, et cetera. Right now, with our

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Speaker 3: When Jay had sent her son to drop off the

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Speaker 3: baby shower gifts, I immediately noticed that there were two

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Speaker 3: big ticket items missing. A swing I received two and

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Speaker 3: a pack and play. I planned on returning one of

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Speaker 3: the swings and buying a car seat or crib. Both

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Speaker 3: gifts were about four hundred dollars. Dang, yeah, they're definitely

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Speaker 3: going to sell these keep it for themselves.

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Speaker 4: I don't like, what are they selling it for? For money?

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Speaker 4: But like what are they using the money for? You

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Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like, maybe this is like actually

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well given to the poor? Why you look

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Speaker 5: like Fred Flintstone broke it look like an actual fit.

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Speaker 3: Jay had her daughter make a detailed thank you list

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Speaker 3: with every gift given, which I use as a checklist

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Speaker 3: for every item given to me. A very smart opie.

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Speaker 3: The stepmom had taken and withheld about two.

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Speaker 5: Thirds of the gifts.

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Speaker 3: Every time that he tries to speak to his family

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Speaker 3: to them. She's saying, this is his family. They give

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Speaker 3: to run off with the gifts to wear my family's house,

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Speaker 3: where she will be staying full time for the time eating, She's.

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Speaker 4: Just gonna run off and use these gifts for child

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Speaker 4: that she's having with you. Oh dare she?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, we wanted to make sure you had something.

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Speaker 3: It just seems like she's running off with a bunch

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Speaker 3: why is your girlfriend being so materialistic?

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Speaker 5: It's obvious she plans to leave be Who are.

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Speaker 4: You materialistic about the stuff for the baby she's having?

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Speaker 5: For real? This is like such useful stuff.

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Speaker 3: Baby shower stuff is like please, I need a help

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Speaker 4: Like what are they gonna buy with this money? I

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Speaker 4: don't want any because clearly whatever it is is completely

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Speaker 4: taking hold of their lives. Yeah, but I would like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like because didn't they also buy some gifts for them?

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Speaker 3: Like if they were so worried about all this stuff,

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Speaker 3: like I would they even bring gifts to the baby shower?

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Speaker 3: I guess I'm just assuming that they didn't actually specifically say,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It's like someone had a puppy shower.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're getting a puppy. Yeah, we're gonna take

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Speaker 4: care of it over at my place. And they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: all these bags of dog food we're just gonna keep

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's you've run away anyway.

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Speaker 3: I've gone out of my way to build good relationships

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Speaker 3: with his entire family, and it hurts to know that's

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Speaker 3: what they really think of me. I think the funniest

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Speaker 3: part about all of this is the fact that he

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Speaker 3: specifically said that he didn't want anything from the Showers

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Speaker 3: baby wise, except for a car seat. It's like his

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Speaker 3: family expects me to withhold the gifts from him, or

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Speaker 3: like we aren't two adults that can make decisions for

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Speaker 3: our own child. They're not just keeping the gifts from me,

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Speaker 3: the girl their son knocked up, but they are actively

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Speaker 3: breaking my trust as the mother of their unborn grandchild.

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Speaker 3: Just a handful of confiscated gifts include lactation pads, what

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Speaker 3: the heck, front airbag, milk storage bags, newborn diapers. All

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Speaker 3: opening packs of Onesies between US. Cards and return receipts

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Speaker 3: are included with the gifts, gift cards, bottles, newborn onesies.

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Speaker 3: I'm so serious. She took a front airbag pump from

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Speaker 3: me because she was splitting things up. I feel sick

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Speaker 3: knowing that she kept literal diapers from us and items

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Speaker 3: Jay made me feel like every gift given to us

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Speaker 3: for until she got her way. It felt like a

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Speaker 3: that she wanted them. I've thought through every possible reason

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Speaker 5: Is it because Jay's daughter just found out that she's pregnant.

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Speaker 5: Is she keeping the gifts for her daughter?

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Speaker 4: Probably?

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Speaker 3: Is it about the money when she is already so

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Speaker 3: well off? Is it an attempt to control us both?

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Speaker 3: Or does she really think that she's doing the right

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Speaker 3: thing on some level or another. I understand some random

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Speaker 3: trust that her steps has, but why does she get

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Speaker 3: to choose what is the right thing for him to do?

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Speaker 3: I understand it looks weird that he is living with

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Speaker 3: me full time for the time being, but we literally

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Speaker 3: have no other choice. It's not like his parents are

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Speaker 3: solutions to the living space, They just want to control it.

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Speaker 3: I can't afford anything better. It makes me feel like

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Speaker 3: a horrible person already that I can't give my daughter

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Speaker 3: a better life, and all of their judgment just made

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Speaker 3: me feel so much worse. I'm trying my best to

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Speaker 3: make the circumstances work. I love my daughter and want

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Speaker 3: her to have everything she needs the best of my ability.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I just don't understand,

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Speaker 3: even if she was splitting things up between us, why

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Speaker 3: were the milk storage bags and lactation pads taken from me?

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Speaker 3: Why did I not get to keep the nice onesies

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Speaker 3: with the zippers or get to pick out which swing

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Speaker 3: I wanted? Why does Jay get to pick and choose

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Speaker 3: what we each need for a child. Why don't I

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Speaker 3: get to own the front air bag pump? They are

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Speaker 3: literally my front airbags. You are so right about tho.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like it's again, like hopefully. You know, we

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Speaker 3: I got them. I know I'm pregnant, but front airbag

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Speaker 3: I have another baby shower coming up with his other

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Speaker 5: Them from us. I am just so anxious.

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Speaker 3: If they're trying to control both of our now and

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Speaker 5: That's a whole lot of baby showers.

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Speaker 4: Good for you, man, that's great, squeaky clean.

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Speaker 3: He tells me not to worry because I have three

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Speaker 4: This is principle. Yeah, this is not like, ah, whatever,

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Speaker 4: We'll just let him imply that you're like a kremlin

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Speaker 4: who wants to steal pregnancy and baby supplies to leave me. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 4: first of all, think better of my partners. Second of all,

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Speaker 4: give us our stuff yesterday. Like what are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, we have three more showers.

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Speaker 3: Stand on madness, especially since these people are gonna be

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Speaker 3: what's the point of even having the showers if you can't.

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Speaker 5: Keep the gifts?

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Speaker 3: That's what they're pretty much not to be materialistic, but

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Speaker 3: I don't even have a crib, a car seat, a dresser,

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Speaker 3: I cannot possibly depend on three or more people to

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Speaker 3: for something else we need more. He's told me that

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Speaker 3: growing up they made him feel like he was just there,

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Speaker 3: It makes me sad that she made a little kid

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Speaker 3: the full amount for her biological children to go on

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Speaker 3: vacations Disney, et cetera, but if he wanted to go,

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Speaker 3: it became conditional. He had to pay for the plane

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Speaker 5: What do we think? Do we have any final thoughts

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Speaker 4: Used everyone? I think these people are not gonna be

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Speaker 4: He's not the biological child. Like They're gonna do the

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Speaker 4: exact same thing your kids, leave them in the past,

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Speaker 4: leave them in the in the mud.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think you get people on your side of the family,

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Speaker 3: or Hey, better yet, I have a gift for you.

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Speaker 3: Can I come over to give it to you? And say, Hi,

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Speaker 3: just drop by really quick. Yeah, yeah, and just me,

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Speaker 3: don't worry about it.

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Speaker 5: It's just gonna be me.

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Speaker 3: Then you walk in with three people and at least

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you say, there's my gift to you on

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a little bit more to the story. Let's

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Speaker 3: It's such a complicated situation and I am lost on

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Speaker 3: what to do. Every answer makes me feel materialistic or

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Speaker 3: selfish for wanting these gifts, but I wouldn't be able

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Speaker 3: to the gifts from his family, he is more than

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Speaker 5: Both of us, for our unborn child.

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Speaker 3: It feels like I'm going through a divorce, trying to

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Speaker 3: split our assets. Why did his family have to make

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Speaker 3: it so weird for me? And there are some comments

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Speaker 3: coming to her. Number one says, Okay, boyfriend needs to

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Speaker 5: He needs to go talk to his dad.

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming the stuff is at his house and tell

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Speaker 3: him that he's there to pick up the stuff. Maybe

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Speaker 3: best he do this while the stepmom is out. Then

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Speaker 5: What did I say?

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Speaker 3: If dad stops him, boyfriend needs to remind him. Then

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Speaker 5: Involved in her life.

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Speaker 3: You shouldn't be involved in this at all, though, doubtless

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Speaker 3: you'll be blamed. Someone responds, OPI I agree with above

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Speaker 3: post about contacting the police. Oh WHOA, I guess someone

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Speaker 3: said attack the police, but I do that. First, take

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Speaker 3: them the opportunity to return the items. These miscreants don't

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Speaker 3: They do not warrant the benefit of the doubt. Go

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Speaker 3: attack mode they stole from you. Good luck, o Pee,

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Speaker 3: please keep us apprized.

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Speaker 4: Attack mode.

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Speaker 3: Command it too says I think you need to take

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Speaker 3: this public, tell his entire family how she is behaving.

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Speaker 3: Someone responds this, send out a group message thank you

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Speaker 3: for all the generous gifts. It's unfortunate that we won't

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Speaker 3: many of these people, I mean all of them, all

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Speaker 3: it's not gonna be used for that adult. It's just

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Speaker 3: I'd be very concerned that they plan to help out

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Speaker 3: effing nuts. Comentre number four says name probably Jay Jay.

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Speaker 3: We need you to return all the baby shower gifts

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Speaker 3: you have taken. They were not intended for you, and

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Speaker 3: while we prefer not to file a police report, we

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Speaker 3: to our home by Saturday, June fifteenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Are If you force us to file a police report,

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Speaker 3: we will not be shy about sharing it and what

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Speaker 3: you have done with everyone at the baby shower, as

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Speaker 3: well as family and friends. Please contact us with any questions.

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Speaker 3: I might include a list because you know what was

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Speaker 6: I dated my ex girlfriend's sister. Years later, she confessed

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Speaker 4: Ain't that always the way it goes?

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Speaker 6: The relationship was basically a corpse for several months, dragged

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Speaker 6: Eventually, Gigi and I broke up and our four year

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Speaker 6: was only tolerating.

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00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 5: Her for Gigi's sake.

441
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,199
Speaker 6: Out of guilt or out of some selfish desire to

442
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 6: not lose yet another piece of my life. I acquiesced

443
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 6: to Veronica and we stayed friends. This was in twenty fourteen.

444
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 6: By twenty fifteen, Veronica I was eighteen and I was

445
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 6: twenty one. You came to the same college I was in,

446
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 6: and we were good friends. I always kept some distance

447
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 6: with Veronica out of respect to Gigi. This means that

448
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 6: no matter how friendly I was with Veronica, never really

449
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,879
Speaker 6: talk to her about really personal stuff for my romantic life.

450
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 6: It was a good friend, but not a close friend. Then,

451
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 6: in late twenty fifteen, there was incident where Veronica behaved

452
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 6: extremely jealous towards a girl I was casually seeing that.

453
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 6: There was another incident in early twenty sixteen where Veronica

454
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 6: was found to be crap talk and a different girl

455
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 6: I was seeing, and when I confronted Veronica about it,

456
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 6: Veronica basically confessed that she had developed feelings for me.

457
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,679
Speaker 6: I shut that down immediately because every part of it

458
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 6: felt totally and viscerally wrong. But at the time, Veronica

459
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 6: assured me that Gigi was okay with it and her

460
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 6: mom was okay with the two. She put all her

461
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 6: cards on the table and says that while she understands

462
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 6: I view her as a kid, she'd like the chance

463
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 6: to at least date me and change my mind. Obviously,

464
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 6: she succeeded, because as of February this year, she and

465
00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 6: I are engaged.

466
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 4: Oh oh, okay.

467
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 6: We've been together for five years now, and it's by

468
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 6: far the best relationship I've ever been the Only problem

469
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 6: is that it turns out Veronica lied about one thing

470
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 6: at the start of the relationship. While it's true that

471
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 6: her mother loves me and was totally fine with Veronica

472
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 6: dating me, Gigi was never okay with it. In fact,

473
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 6: Gigi was very much not okay with it and has

474
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 6: been vocal about this to Veronica. Gigi never said any

475
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 6: of this to me because she and I were no contact.

476
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 6: All of this is coming up now in twenty twenty

477
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 6: because Gigi is over our apartment for the week and

478
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 6: on day two, yesterday, she gets wasted and blurts out

479
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 6: how I upgraded to a younger, prettier model by dating

480
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 6: her little sister. Veronica was already passed out by this point,

481
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 6: so she had no idea that Gigi said these things

482
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 6: to me. But at the time I got defensive and

483
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 6: said that Gigi was okay with it at the time,

484
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 6: so why did it bother her so much. Half a

485
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 6: decade later then Gig told me the truth about how

486
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 6: she was never okay with it. But then she found

487
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 6: out that I had agreed to give Veronica a chance,

488
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 6: and it broke her heart and she tried to let

489
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 6: go of the jealousy she was feeling. Five years later,

490
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 6: she still feels intense pangs of jealousy, all made worse

491
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 6: by the wedding planning for our twenty twenty one marriage.

492
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 6: Gigi says that she regrets asking me for a breakup

493
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 6: and the single life wasn't worth losing love for. She

494
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 6: assured me that she wasn't trying to break Veronica and

495
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 6: myself up or trying to get me back. She said

496
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 6: that she just needed me to know how she really feels.

497
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 6: She also attributes these feelings of rejection and loss as

498
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 6: the cause of her depression, which incidentally has derailed her

499
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 6: life for the last four years. So the times match up.

500
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 6: I guess what's the right move here. Do I tell

501
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 6: Veronica about Gigi's confession? Do I pretend like I didn't

502
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 6: hear any of this? Absolutely tell her she's your fyance

503
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 6: and this is her sister confessing that she's in love

504
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 6: with you.

505
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 5: Yes, you should tell your partner.

506
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 6: Gigi doesn't seem to remember what she said or is

507
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 6: playing it off like she didn't confess anything. I'm going

508
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 6: to talk to my fiance and let her know what happened.

509
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 6: I'm not going to turn this into any more drama

510
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 6: or big fight. Before I post to the last thread.

511
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 6: I was going to just let this whole thing pass

512
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 6: us away and never speak to Veronica about it, but

513
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 6: the majority of you felt it was best to at

514
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 6: least be honest.

515
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 5: To Veronica, and at some point you all convinced me.

516
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 6: So yesterday morning, I sat Veronica down and told her

517
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 6: what had happened. Gigi was away at this point, so

518
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 6: I had the privacy for a real conversation. A lot

519
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 6: of people in the last post really mistook what kind

520
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 6: of person Veronica is. In my opinion, Veronica isn't some

521
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 6: kind of evil mastermind that was playing me, her mother,

522
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 6: her sister, and everyone else like puppets dancing on her strings.

523
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 6: When I met her, she was an earnest kid, and

524
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 6: she grew to be an honest but determined teenager at

525
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 6: the time that we started dating. I mentioned this so

526
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 6: the people understand that this conversation wasn't an interrogation. I

527
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 6: just wanted to know what she thought about what Gigi said.

528
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 6: As it turns out, the truth is always somewhere in between,

529
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 6: and I've learned a lot of new information. I just

530
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 6: let her speak and get everything off her chest. I

531
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 6: didn't interrupt to ask for clarification or interject to argue

532
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 6: at any point. The way I'm going to write this

533
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 6: down is probably annoying to read, but it's the way

534
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 6: I processed them. New equals totally new, confirmed equals info.

535
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 6: Gigi told me that Veronica confirmed MESSI equals Infoggi told

536
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 6: me that wasn't fully honest new information. Veronica's been in

537
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 6: love with me for longer than I thought. Gigi and

538
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 6: I were planning on taking her to the carnival in

539
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 6: town on her fourteenth birthday along with her group of friends,

540
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 6: but Gigi got sick and Veronica was starting to get sick,

541
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 6: so they figured the whole plan was canceled. I don't

542
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 6: remember much of this event, but she remembers that I

543
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 6: cheered her up and convinced her to go to the carnival.

544
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 6: So it was me plus Veronica plus Veronica's friends, and

545
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 6: when Veronica would get tired or need to sit down

546
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 6: and rehydrate, I'd sit with her. She remembers that one

547
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 6: of her friends was flirting with me and at one

548
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 6: point gave me a compliment, and I redirected the compliment

549
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 6: to Veronica, and it made Veronica feel like a million bucks,

550
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 6: says this was the night she fell in love. Confirmed

551
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 6: Gig suspected Veronica number one. I used to shower at

552
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 6: Gigi's house once in a while, especially during summer vacation.

553
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 6: This only used to happen after pickup games. If Gigi

554
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 6: wanted to hang out afterwards, I'd leave dirty laundry here

555
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 6: for Gigi to throw into the watch. Turns out Veronica

556
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 6: started helping her later on, and Gig noticed that Veronica

557
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 6: only helped her when my dirty clothes were in the hamper,

558
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 6: never on a normal day. Confirmed Gigi suspected Veronica number two.

559
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 6: Senior year of high school, I took art history. I

560
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 6: didn't give a crap about the class, but Veronica was

561
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 6: super interested in hearing from me about it. Turns out

562
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 6: GG caught Veronica researching my class topics several times so

563
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 6: that Veronica could hold conversations with me. Confirmed Gigi suspected

564
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 6: Veronica number three. Gigi knew that Veronica would put on

565
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 6: makeup and tidy herself up every time I came to

566
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 6: visit Gigi. Even if I'm just picking Gigi up to

567
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 6: take Gigi out, Veronica would come downstairs with makeup on

568
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 6: to chat with me for a bit. Before I left,

569
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 6: I didn't mention to Veronica that I didn't notice at all.

570
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 6: Messy Gigi opposed Veronica's feelings then came around, so Veronica

571
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 6: told Gigi earnestly about her feelings for me before she

572
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 6: even told her mom. This was six months after Gigi's

573
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 6: and my relationship ended. Oh gg got pretty heated at this,

574
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 6: and a week after Veronica told Gigi, there was an

575
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 6: incident between the sisters. Gigi basically chewed Veronica out. Gigi

576
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 6: then told Veronica that I'd never fall for Veronica. This

577
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 6: was when Veronica basically called out Gigi and said that

578
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 6: Gigi would never be happy for me. In this conversation,

579
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 6: Gigi explicitly said that if by some miracle, I said

580
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 6: yes to Veronica, then Gigi would put her tail between

581
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 6: her legs and admit she was wrong. Gigi later one

582
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 6: monthish apologized about how she spoke to Veronica and said

583
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 6: that if Veronica truly loved me, she was happy for

584
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 6: Veronica Massi. Gigi encouraged Veronica to confess to me. The

585
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 6: next big episode regarding me came the month that Veronica

586
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 6: confessed to me. Veronica and I were in a bit

587
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 6: of a fight because I didn't like how she had

588
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 6: behaved to a girl I was friends with benefits with.

589
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 6: Veronica was crying at home, and Gigi basically encouraged Veronica

590
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 6: to rip the band aid off and tell me how

591
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 6: she feels this way. If I rejected Veronica, Veronica can

592
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 6: at least move on, which I think is what Gigi

593
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 6: was betting was gonna happen.

594
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 4: Correct.

595
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 6: Veronica asked Gigi if that was really okay, and Gigi

596
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 6: said yes, Massi. Gigu was happy and scared. When Veronica

597
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 6: was about to confess in a conversation the evening that

598
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 6: Veronica was going to tell me her feelings, Veronica and

599
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 6: Gigi spoke again over the phone. Veronica remembers that Gigi

600
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 6: made a very ify joke that's just that that Gigi

601
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 6: was hurting. Veronica paused the convo and asked gig if

602
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 6: she was really okay with this. Gigi backpedaled and insisted

603
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 6: it was just a joke and so she was excited

604
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 6: for her little sis. Veronica remembers the joke comment being

605
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 6: something like, good luck getting the love of my life.

606
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 6: The truth is more complicated, I guess. Turns out that

607
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 6: Veronica had feelings for me a long time ago. Things

608
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 6: like falling in love with me and for taking her

609
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 6: to a carnival on her birthday seemed dramatic and immature

610
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 6: in retrospect, but it's important bits that make up a

611
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 6: bigger truth. Also turns out that Gigi had small, nagging

612
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 6: suspicions over the years. But most important is that it

613
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 6: turns out when I was single and Veronica was working

614
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 6: up courage to make a move, Gigi wasn't actually in opposition.

615
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 6: Gigi ended up being a good sister and encouraging Veronica

616
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 6: to chase what she wanted. What further complicates things is

617
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 6: that Gigi used to express some insecurity about her body

618
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 6: and how much more beiful read write curves Veronica was

619
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 6: back during the last two years of dating. I dismissed

620
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 6: these insecurities and I used to laugh them off because, oh,

621
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 6: at the time, Gigi was eighteen and Veronica was fifteen,

622
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 6: How does an eighteen year old even compare herself to

623
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 6: a fifteen year old. I didn't know that there was

624
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 6: this underlying sentiment of competition over the years. To spend

625
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 6: years feeling jealous of your little sister and must have

626
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 6: been torture. This was the least dramatic way I could

627
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 6: think to resolve this. Since Gig either deceitfully or genuinely

628
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 6: doesn't remember any of her confessions to me, I'm going

629
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 6: to let Sleeping Dogs lie. I think Ronica is perfect,

630
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 6: and I wish I could go back in time and

631
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 6: take away the heartache she must have felt over the

632
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 6: years as some insecure kid, not knowing if I'd ever

633
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 6: love or not. I'm posting this update partly to organize

634
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 6: my thoughts, but also in case anyone feels strongly that

635
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 6: I should.

636
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 5: Talk to Gigi.

637
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 6: I believe letting this rest and not poking it anymore

638
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 6: is the best option. Agree or disagree, Agree, leave it alone.

639
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 6: You've already told your fiance that's all you needed to do.

640
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 6: Don't bring this.

641
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 4: Up with Gig.

642
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,040
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643
00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,120
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644
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647
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Speaker 5: our relationship.

648
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 4: Well you might as well just do it then.

649
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 6: I Mail twenty five met my ex Mike Mail twenty

650
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 6: nine last year through Instagram. I started talking to him

651
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 6: in an effort to forget my previous ex who cheated

652
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 6: on me multiple times with men and a sweet girl

653
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 6: who wanted a family with him. Just for clarification, I'm

654
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 6: not the type of man that likes to hook up

655
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 6: just for the sake of it. I love the intimacy

656
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 6: of being in a relationship. By the way, this comes

657
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 6: from only Alive because and if you want to submit

658
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 6: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime

659
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 6: suburn it. Having said that, I just wanted to try

660
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 6: my luck with a fairly handsome guy since I wasn't

661
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 6: having any luck with the ladies on by. We hit

662
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 6: it off from the first message, but I did notice

663
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 6: that every time we talked about the type of guys

664
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 6: we like, he's just gay. Mike talked about liking guys

665
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 6: older than me, taller than me, the works. So because

666
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 6: of that, I decided to keep him as a friend,

667
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 6: since I don't have any male friends from the LGBT community,

668
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 6: even though I'm part of it myself, and even though

669
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 6: I was already falling in love with him. This happened

670
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 6: in the span of four months more or less. Fast forward.

671
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 6: We went out clubbing one night with some friends of his,

672
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 6: three women Mike and me. Two of them are savvoc

673
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 6: and I wanted to get with the only straight one. However,

674
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 6: we drank a lot more than we could handle, and

675
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 6: after getting rejected by his friend, I went back to

676
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 6: Mike just to dance and for him to cheer me up.

677
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 6: We started dancing and getting closer and closer, and then.

678
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 5: He kissed me.

679
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 6: I was taken aback by this, and he chuckled and

680
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 6: then said I knew you wanted this, sup Ben, and

681
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 6: I started laughing with him. We kissed a lot more

682
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 6: that night and kept dancing and having fun. The next

683
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 6: day I realized what had happened, and the feelings I

684
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 6: tried so hard to ignore were bursting out of my

685
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 6: heart again. We kept going out periodically, at least one

686
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,479
Speaker 6: night a month, sometimes two. The concerts, the movies, you

687
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 6: get it. Somewhere down the line, my birthday happened. I

688
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 6: don't like to celebrate it, but I get sad when

689
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 6: people don't remember it, and Mike forgot. The following week,

690
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 6: he realized he had forgotten my birthday and said he

691
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 6: would make up for it. We planned to meet up

692
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 6: at them All to watch a movie and for him

693
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 6: to give me my birthday present his idea. When I

694
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 6: got there, he gave me a big hug. I freaking

695
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 6: love hugs. I'm a very physical guy, and he apologized

696
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 6: and said that he left my gift in his car.

697
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 6: I told him not to worry and said we could

698
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 6: get it later. So we went to the movies, then

699
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 6: for coffee. I did notice that he was hugging me

700
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 6: a lot more than usual, but I didn't mind, as

701
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 6: I said, I love hugs. Finally, Mike told me to

702
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 6: accompany him to his car to get my present.

703
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 5: I went with him. Then in his car, he told me.

704
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 6: To get in, as in he wanted to hug me

705
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 6: and didn't want people to give us looks. I live

706
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 6: in a very closet officery country in Latin America. That

707
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 6: set an alarm in my head since he was hugging

708
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 6: me not even thirty minutes ago, but I complied. I

709
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 6: got in, he gave me my gift. I thanked him

710
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 6: and he gave me a hug. After that, he whispered

711
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 6: in my ear if he could kiss me. It caught

712
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 6: me off card and I couldn't answer, but he went

713
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 6: for it and kissed me. I was floored the same

714
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 6: guy that I wanted to forget I had feelings for,

715
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 6: and that I came to the conclusion I had no

716
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 6: feelings for me was kissing me. Not only that, but

717
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 6: while being sober, Mike told me that he liked me

718
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 6: and asked if I liked him bat and I couldn't

719
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 6: think of words to say it back, so I kissed

720
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 6: him and we started laughing and kissing.

721
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 5: After that we became a formal couple.

722
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 6: We went out every two weeks, since he lives a

723
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 6: bit far from me and he didn't want me to

724
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 6: make the commute just for him. We both live with

725
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 6: our parents and are still in the closet. Relevant information.

726
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 6: Mike is a swiftie. I swear this will be important later,

727
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 6: and I am not. I don't really like Taylor that much,

728
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 6: just some songs here and there. Mike has a group

729
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 6: of friends that know each other just because of being swifties.

730
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 6: They make parties of their own, made a party when

731
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 6: the aerostore was announced, things like that. Since I'm not

732
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 6: a fan, I didn't mingle with their group, and when

733
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 6: they had parties, I had no issue with him going

734
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 6: alone with them.

735
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 5: Since you know, he was among his friends.

736
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 6: Then it came Christmas, or more specifically, December twenty third,

737
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 6: Mike's Mom's birthday. His family made a dinner party at

738
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 6: his house, and he invited me, of course as a

739
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 6: friend for his family.

740
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 5: Say.

741
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 6: I was so excited, as this was my first time

742
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 6: meeting all of his family and I wanted to make

743
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 6: a great impression. So I really made an apple and

744
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 6: bought his mom a great gift and also a gift

745
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 6: for Mike since we wouldn't see each other on Christmas Day.

746
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 6: I gave her the gift and she was very happy

747
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 6: with it. And then I gave Mike his gift and

748
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 6: told him how much I loved him, how much he

749
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 6: meant to me, and that he deserved all of the

750
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 6: goodness in the universe. He kept repeating that he didn't

751
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 6: deserve it and that I was being too generous. Do

752
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 6: we think that he's guilty?

753
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 4: Sounds like he's got some internalized guilt.

754
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 6: It struck me as weird. But I too don't know

755
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 6: how to take compliments or receive gifts. Sad I know,

756
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 6: so I brushed that off. Then on Christmas Day, we

757
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 6: kept chatting updates on what our families were doing. Unfortunately,

758
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 6: I had to work that day, but we made the

759
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 6: best of it. At nine pm, when the last members

760
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 6: of my family were going home, I got a message

761
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 6: from Mike. It read, we need to talk. I fed up, ominous,

762
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 6: and we all know what that message means. He called

763
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 6: me crying and confessed that he kissed a friend of

764
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 6: his during the Christmas Swifty party they had at the

765
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 6: beginning of December. He told me that he was so

766
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 6: sorry and he didn't want to hurt me, but that

767
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 6: he was accustomed to being alone. I didn't take it well.

768
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 6: He knew my exited to me, and I asked him

769
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 6: not to do the same thing to me, and he

770
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 6: went and did the same thing to me. I was

771
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 6: laying into him with my heart bleeding each bird. At

772
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 6: one point, I guess he got fed up and said,

773
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 6: I know I cheated on you, but it doesn't look

774
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 6: I did something illegal. I was flabbergasted at that, then

775
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 6: told him that I hoped he was happy. I hope

776
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 6: you're happy now, and not to do the same thing

777
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 6: to the next dude that came into his life that

778
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 6: we were over. Mike only answered, you really think there'll

779
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 6: be another one? I couldn't take it anymore and I

780
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 6: disconnected the call. I cried myself to sleep that night,

781
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 6: and the following day and the day after that. I

782
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 6: was destroyed. He played me the same way my previous

783
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 6: acts played me and made me believe that in him,

784
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 6: being older, you would be a centered, mature individual who

785
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 6: wouldn't cheat on someone who loves them with all their heart.

786
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 6: I slowly started making progress and getting over him. Since

787
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 6: January twenty twenty four, I started going to the gym

788
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 6: more I returned to college. Even then, I still missed

789
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 6: him and wanted to get back with him, but hope

790
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 6: for his next relationship to be successful. An old teacher

791
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 6: of mine who I told what happened and was in

792
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 6: shock that he could do something like that that and whose

793
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 6: boyfriend is part of the Swifties group, told me that

794
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 6: he was cheated on by the guy he cheated on

795
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 6: me with, whoa those guys serial cheater, and that if

796
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 6: it were in my hands, that relationship would work for him.

797
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 6: Last week, I went to a concert at a bar.

798
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 6: The same band we went to see together for the

799
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 6: first time was performing there, and even though I knew

800
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 6: them only because of him, I wasn't willing to stop

801
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 6: going to their concerts just because Mike could be there.

802
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 6: I went with a friend of mine and lo and behold,

803
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 6: Mike went to the concert with no other than the

804
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 6: guy he cheated on me with.

805
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 5: But I didn't know that yet.

806
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 6: At the time, I didn't mind all that much because

807
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 6: I was with my friend. But when I went for

808
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 6: more drinks for my pal and me to the counter,

809
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 6: which was where they were unknown to me before going,

810
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 6: I noticed that they were avoiding me. He went as

811
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 6: far as getting up and going to the end of

812
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 6: the bar with the other guy. I talked to my

813
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 6: ex teacher and he was like, I'm gonna be honest

814
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 6: with you. That's why I and diego his boyfriend friend

815
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 6: of Mike, Remember the swifty friend group didn't come with you.

816
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 5: We knew he'd be there.

817
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 6: And the guy Mike's with he cheated on you with him,

818
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 6: they're still together. I don't know why, but that text

819
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 6: broke me. I felt, and still feel, like the most

820
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 6: replaceable piece of crap in the whole world. It feels

821
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 6: like all the progress I was making of getting over

822
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 6: him was destroyed, that it never happened. I feel as

823
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 6: hopeless as that Christmas night. I thought I was ready

824
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 6: to see Mike again, but I wasn't ready to see

825
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 6: him with the guy he replaced me with. Now on

826
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 6: to the issue. As I stated before, I still love Mike.

827
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 6: I'm not downplaying the cheating or any of the other

828
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 6: things he did to me in the past. One of

829
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 6: them was arriving at my house almost three hours late

830
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 6: for a road trip I planned a month in a dance,

831
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 6: and then getting angry with me for being mad at him.

832
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 6: There was no emergency, he overslept and unfortunately it was

833
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 6: a bad day for traffic. But I still miss him,

834
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 6: and after seeing him with another guy, I'm second guessing

835
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 6: myself on whether or not I made the correct decision

836
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 6: in breaking things off when he called me. Now, he

837
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 6: hasn't contacted me or anything since the call, nor even

838
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 6: tried to text me. Would it be a good idea

839
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 6: to contact him and try to then things?

840
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: No?

841
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 4: Like, what do you mean? Oh, what do you mean

842
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 4: by that?

843
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: No?

844
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 5: I don't care what you mean by it. I don't

845
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 5: care if you just want to be friends.

846
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: Nope? Do you mean like you have like a shirt

847
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: you have a hole in? And yeah? Yeah, and you

848
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: maybe for me?

849
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 5: Please be kind.

850
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 6: I truly am on the brink of pulling my hair

851
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 6: out because of the situation. Sorry if I lost the

852
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 6: trail of the story at multiple points, I tried to

853
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 6: provide all of the context possible for you to understand

854
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 6: how we went from friends to a situationship to a couple.

855
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 6: And there is an update shout out to another user

856
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 6: for your interest. Yea, one day what he told me

857
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 6: then came back to me three day to night Christmas party,

858
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 6: Christmas trip and they only kissed.

859
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Nah.

860
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 6: Chances are that they were doing the nasty up until

861
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 6: the morning of the first day, then some of the

862
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 6: second day, and on the third day he might have

863
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 6: felt a little bit guilty and only told me about

864
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 6: the affair for me to break up with him, make

865
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 6: me the bad guy in his mind, and for him

866
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 6: to be able to go with the other guy without

867
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 6: feeling guilty. Not much of a follow up to my story,

868
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 6: but an update of how things are going as for today.

869
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 6: Therapy has been great is helping me address my lack

870
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 6: of self worth and to be able to set firm boundaries.

871
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 6: From what my ex teacher last told me, it seems

872
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 6: that Mike's new relationship with the guy he cheated on

873
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 6: me with didn't last, or it wasn't as smooth as

874
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 6: I thought it to be. I don't have any more

875
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 6: information about Mike's life other than his motorcycle was stolen

876
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 6: at the beginning of twenty twenty four and that he

877
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 6: still went to the Aerostore, a trip that we were

878
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 6: planning to do together. But I guess you can't stop

879
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 6: people from accomplishing their dreams, even if you wanted to

880
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 6: be part of them. My ex teacher broke things off

881
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 6: with his then boyfriend because of the same swifty friend group,

882
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 6: so that goes to show how toxic those people are,

883
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 6: and then same friend group had a falling out because

884
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 6: of my ex teacher's X. So in a way, I

885
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 6: feel a tiny bit bad for Mike. He lost the

886
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 6: friends he was most close with and the relationship he

887
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 6: chose over mine. Not quite sure about this last one, though.

888
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 6: I would like to tell you that I'm fully over

889
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 6: him and that things have been amazing ever since. But unfortunately,

890
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 6: since our breakup, my life has been in a steady

891
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 6: all time low. Not because of the breakup, but because

892
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 6: that's life.

893
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 5: I guess that's life.

894
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 6: I lost my first long lasting job in April twenty

895
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 6: twenty four, I changed to a new one where they

896
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 6: stole my bonuses. Changed to another one when I was

897
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 6: fired with forty plus people, got another job that let

898
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 6: me continue in college, lost that one for underperformance. Now

899
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 6: I'm looking for a new job that pays enough to

900
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 6: continue into college and to pay my credit card debt.

901
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 6: Regarding love life, I've had swings here and there, usually

902
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 6: with men who can say they want a series relationship,

903
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 6: but I can now see through their lies and don't

904
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 6: fail to disappoint time and time again. They want to

905
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 6: have someone only for them while being able to hook

906
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 6: up with whoever they want. Yeah, no thanks. I haven't

907
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 6: been lucky with the ladies. Unfortunately. I went out with

908
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 6: one sweet, kind and gorgeous girl, but she only wanted

909
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 6: to hook up. Props to her for being upfront and

910
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 6: not lying just to get what she wanted, though I

911
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 6: appreciated that, but unfortunately that's not what I'm looking for.

912
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's my life I'm putting till now. Please

913
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 6: send positive thoughts to be able to break this bad streak.

914
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 6: Some of my friends told me that there might be

915
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 6: something regarding witchcraft behind my bad luck, but I digress.

916
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917
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00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 4: My fiance thinks I tricked her to live with my friend.

921
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 4: She wants to leave.

922
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 5: Get out of there. No tricks allowed, traps.

923
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 4: We've been together for six months and I know that

924
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: even though it seems fast, I know she's the one.

925
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: She loves me just as much. But lately we've been

926
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Speaker 4: having a problem. By the way, this comes from user

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Speaker 3: So.

931
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 4: We were living in my car for the last four

932
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 4: months because she was taking care of her grandfather with

933
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 4: dementia and couldn't do it anymore. He was becoming increasingly

934
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 4: combative and has been placed in a memory care facility.

935
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 4: I offered to let her stay with me. My lease

936
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: ended four months ago. We've been living in my car

937
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 4: while finding a new place. I'm from a city in

938
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 4: the southern area of the state, and we were making

939
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 4: regular trips down to visit my friends. I had a

940
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: job but was unhappy and about to quit because I

941
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 4: knew I could easily get back into my old job.

942
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 4: A couple of weeks ago, she suggested that we moved

943
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 4: in my city because she had nothing holding her there,

944
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 4: and she said she noticed I was unhappy in her

945
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 4: city and seemed happier in mind. She is on disability

946
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 4: and I work. So we got to my city and

947
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 4: I told her that there's a female friend of mine

948
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 4: who will let us stay with her for a few days.

949
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 4: My fiance and her don't know each other except for

950
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: a couple of brief meetings. It's been two weeks that

951
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: we've been staying with my friend now, and my fiance

952
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: and I got into a very heated argument this morning

953
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 4: because she blew up at me and said that she

954
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: didn't sign up for this. She said that she feels

955
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: like she's watching me have a life with another woman

956
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 4: and wants to end the relationship and go back to

957
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 4: her city. I've asked her to just hold on. I'm

958
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 4: trying to get a few paychecks because I just started

959
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 4: back at my new job as soon as we got here.

960
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 4: She said no, that she's tired of watching me build

961
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: a life with another woman. To be fair, I guess

962
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 4: I can see why she feels like this. My friend

963
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: is a single mom, and she has asked for my

964
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 4: help a lot so far. I moved a chair for her,

965
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 4: taking out the trash, cut her grass, opened jars, and

966
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: watched her son. My fiance and I were both raised

967
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: in a traditional value family, and she feels like my

968
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 4: friend is asking too much of me. I feel like

969
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 4: I'm I'm just helping her out in exchange for a

970
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: place to stay for a while. I've been paying her

971
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 4: though I think my fiance is being ridiculous. But she

972
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: said she's suspicious of my friend's intentions because of her

973
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 4: asking me for help all the time. She said she's

974
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: heard that if another woman is constantly needing a man's help,

975
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 4: she's doing it with the intent to steal him. I've

976
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: tried telling her that I'm not going anywhere, but she's

977
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: mad because she said she feels like I'm putting myself

978
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 4: in a situation where my feelings for my friend could

979
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 4: become romantic. Brother just run. She said she feels like

980
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 4: I don't care about her point of view. She's made

981
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: it clear she doesn't exactly like my friend because she

982
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 4: knows what she's up to and doesn't appreciate me just

983
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 4: brushing it off. Okay, go sleep, uyside, I did this

984
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: so we'd have a roof over our heads, and honestly

985
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 4: because I feel like, because I work, I deserve to

986
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 4: have a place to rest. My fiance said that it's

987
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 4: been a couple of weeks and that it seems like

988
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 4: I'm becoming complacent and don't want to leave or will

989
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 4: decide that I don't. She said, if I decide to

990
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 4: become roommates with my friend, she's definitely leaving. She acknowledged

991
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 4: that it it's her issue to deal with, but that

992
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: she's been feeling jealous because she's been watching me do

993
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 4: things for another woman and eating another woman's cooking.

994
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 7: Where I'm from, that is pretty big if it's just

995
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 7: you eating another woman's cooking and not like a you know,

996
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 7: family get together.

997
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 4: Really counterpoint?

998
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 7: Come on, Okay, Let's say let's say your friend, your friend,

999
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 7: the one that we're both thinking of right now, he

1000
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 7: just cooks me a meal.

1001
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: Okay, not you, just me, me and her. That's pretty intimate.

1002
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: I guess here's my point. There's nothing preventing Opie's fiance from,

1003
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, cooking for everyone in the apartment, seeing

1004
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 4: as they're being put up there. If she's like, you're

1005
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 4: eating another woman's cooking, I don't see you cooking. Yeah.

1006
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: I just feel like the context is very important here

1007
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 3: because I feel like if it's like I'm gonna invite

1008
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: you specifically to my house, I'm going to cook a

1009
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: meal for you, like I just want to be so

1010
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: nice to you right now, right but.

1011
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: Not a dinner date.

1012
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, like like I don't know, I am a

1013
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 3: Microwhi girl.

1014
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 5: I don't cook for a lot of people. If I'm

1015
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 5: cooking for someone, it's probably special. I don't know.

1016
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: It's just f that's just how it functions.

1017
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: It feels like it's not the deal break I feel

1018
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: like it any more.

1019
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 4: Info she hasn't had the chance to do any of

1020
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 4: that for me because of our situation, and she said

1021
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: that she's afraid that I'll choose my friend over her

1022
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: because of this. She said she feels like my friend

1023
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 4: is too close and she doesn't like it, and that

1024
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: she knows because she's a woman, what other women get

1025
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 4: up to, and that I'm just ignoring her concerns. I

1026
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: just don't know what to do anymore because I want

1027
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 4: her here with me, but she seems very unhappy. I

1028
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 4: don't want her to going back to her city because

1029
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 4: there's no one there for her. She has a lot

1030
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 4: of friends who've after her over and I just want

1031
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: her here with me, and I want us to have

1032
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: a life, but she seems very unhappy. I'm not really

1033
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 4: sure what to do to resolve this. There's an edit

1034
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 4: to add. My fiance said that she feels like I

1035
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 4: tricked her into this because I didn't discuss this with her.

1036
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 4: She said that she knew that we would be staying

1037
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 4: for a few days, but not this long. She said

1038
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 4: that she now thinks that I discussed this with my

1039
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 4: female friend before moving down here and did not tell

1040
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 4: her how long we would be staying, and therefore took

1041
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: away her choices. She said that if she had ever

1042
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 4: known it was going to be this long, she would

1043
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: never have agreed to come back with me. I didn't

1044
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 4: plan this behind her back. It just sort of happened.

1045
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 4: But that's what she thinks, and I can't change her mind.

1046
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 4: Another edit to add I should have clarified that my

1047
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 4: friend has made no attempt to get to know my

1048
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: girlfriend at all. We usually go into her room to

1049
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: talk about our day. My girlfriend is never invited.

1050
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 7: I have a theory room big is it the biggest

1051
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 7: room in the whole apartment?

1052
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 4: Why are we in your room? What's in your room?

1053
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 4: Why are we having private time in her room?

1054
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: Though?

1055
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 7: Sometimes I'm going to Sam's rooman talk to him because

1056
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 7: it's very big and spacious, But I don't invite people

1057
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 7: to my room to have conversations because it's very small. Yeah, yep,

1058
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 7: unless it's a group more than three. Well, could maybe

1059
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 7: something have happened? What OP doesn't know about.

1060
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 4: That's my theory is that at some point early in

1061
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 4: the meeting, like his fiance did some crazy cringe stuff,

1062
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 4: being like, I know what you're doing. Don't try to

1063
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 4: be my friend. I know you're just trying to take

1064
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 4: my man and yeah, And if someone said that to me, I'd.

1065
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 5: Be like, Okay, well, we're not going to.

1066
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 4: Talk about our days anymore. Yeah, I guess I'll just

1067
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 4: leave you alone and I'll talk to your fiance, who

1068
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 4: I have known much, much, much much longer than you.

1069
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: And by the way, I don't know if you guys

1070
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 4: remember this. I am the one preventing you from being

1071
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 4: homeless right now, right I'm doing you a gigantic favor.

1072
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1073
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: I haven't said anything to her about this because I

1074
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: don't want us getting punted out. Also, I'm aware that

1075
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 4: they don't know each other, and I just don't want

1076
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 4: to ruffle any feathers right now, so to speak. Also,

1077
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 4: I should have clarified that I have met a few

1078
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 4: of her friends and they don't seem to be good people.

1079
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 4: Some of them cannot help her because they are subsidized housing.

1080
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 4: She is saying that she has a few friends that

1081
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 4: are willing to help her, and her sister and brother

1082
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 4: in law who live in another city are willing to

1083
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: help her. I don't want her to leave because I'm

1084
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 4: worried that I won't be able to help her if

1085
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 4: she needs me. I can admit that I have been

1086
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 4: neglecting her. I usually go right into my friend's room

1087
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: when I get back from work. Then I spend about

1088
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: an hour doing work stuff on the computer and go

1089
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 4: to sleep. My girlfriend said she understands that I'm working

1090
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: a lot, but that it's no excuse to neglect our relationship.

1091
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 4: She has said that maybe she's not ready for a relationship,

1092
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 4: but I'm reluctant to let her go. She has also

1093
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 4: said that she's thought, maybe I'm not at a point

1094
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 4: where I should be having a relationship right now. She

1095
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 4: wants out.

1096
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: Dude.

1097
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, she said that she doesn't feel like I have

1098
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 4: time for one. She said that it would be better

1099
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 4: for us to just split now since it's only been

1100
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 4: six months, rather than months or years down the road.

1101
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: She has tried explaining to me that sometimes things just

1102
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: don't work out, but as I said, I'm reluctant to

1103
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 4: let her go. Comment one, You should let her go

1104
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: if she wants to go. She's unhappy. She's sitting in

1105
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 4: an apartment with your friend who ignores her. You work

1106
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: the whole day and the little free time goes to

1107
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 4: your friend. You say yourself that you want to stay

1108
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 4: there for several paychecks, so it's a few months. You

1109
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 4: rushed into this relationship as if you are a teenager.

1110
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: You didn't even know this woman and live with her.

1111
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 4: Was this a savior thing? But you just hurt her

1112
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 4: right now, even if it is her issue. The situation

1113
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 4: makes her crazy and you can't change the situation. You

1114
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 4: don't want to let her go for selfish reasons, but

1115
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: actually you also don't spend time with her just let

1116
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 4: her go. You can still stay in contact if you

1117
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 4: have a steady life again, you can ask her and

1118
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 4: try again.

1119
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: But this no.

1120
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: And if you also don't see how it feels that

1121
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: your friend totally ignores her, never ask her for the

1122
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 4: favor just you even such small things. And as soon

1123
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 4: as you come home, you go to your friend and

1124
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 4: you say that you pay for staying there, So why

1125
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 4: pay with favors for you to stay and lose the

1126
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 4: little time you have? You also wrote your daily plan

1127
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 4: and there was no time for your girlfriend, Opie says.

1128
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 4: I'm planning on getting a place for the both of us,

1129
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 4: but as I said, I want to save up a

1130
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: few paychecks. I was planning on staying in the car

1131
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 4: with her after these couple of weeks. But I'm honestly

1132
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 4: thinking about asking my friend to stay a little longer.

1133
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, just not compute like dah nah.

1134
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 4: I understand how it may they seem messed up that

1135
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 4: my friend ignores her, but I want us to have

1136
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 4: a place to stay right now. She doesn't want to

1137
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 4: stay in that place right now though. It's just the

1138
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 4: fact that this guy's like, yeah, my girlfriends saying she's

1139
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 4: completely miserable here and we can't stay any longer, so

1140
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 4: I'm considering asking to stay longer. I know she'll be miserable,

1141
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 4: but we're not anywhere else to go. Ah, brother, you

1142
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 4: lived in the car for four months, what's another two weeks?

1143
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I don't get Oh, Pete, I don't get

1144
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: all of the people in this story.

1145
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 5: I think I don't get it. I don't get it.

1146
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: I don't get it.

1147
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 5: I don't understand.

1148
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 4: Stare at the sun for twenty five seconds. I just

1149
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 4: don't want to not be able to help her if

1150
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: something goes wrong because she is disabled. She has suggested

1151
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 4: it maybe living apart for a while and then seeing

1152
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 4: if things are more stable in a few months, But

1153
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: I need her here without her. This whole thing collapses

1154
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: because I will not be able to afford an apartment

1155
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 4: without her. She suggested maybe living apart for a while

1156
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 4: and then seeing if things are more stable in a

1157
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 4: few months. But I need her here without her. This

1158
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 4: whole thing collapses because I will not be able to

1159
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 4: afford an apartment without her.

1160
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: Is this the friend or the field? Just the fiance

1161
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: and the fiance is not staying with the friend?

1162
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 5: And ope right DG. Yes, I'm sire all staying together. Oh, oh,

1163
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 5: my point.

1164
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 4: Is he's just saying that she's a dude. She's half

1165
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 4: the rent. You just married her because she's half the rent, Wow,

1166
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: says exposed. Oh my god. She has said that maybe

1167
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 4: I should just stay here with my friend and be

1168
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: roommates with her, But according to my friend, that can't happen.

1169
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: My girlfriend said she doesn't even understand what I brought

1170
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 4: her here for, and that she feels like she sticks

1171
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 4: out like a sore thumb. She has even said that

1172
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 4: she wonders if her being gone would change my friend

1173
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 4: being okay with me being roommates with her. I just

1174
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 4: worry about what would happen to her if I let

1175
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 4: her go. Reply, you are just digging a deeper hole

1176
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 4: for yourself with your edits. In what world is it

1177
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 4: okay for you to go into your friend's bedroom to

1178
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: talk about your day and ignore your fiance. If you're talking,

1179
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 4: you should be in the living area. Totally understand where

1180
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 4: your fiance is coming from. Ope, he said, my friend

1181
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: just always hangs out in her room. I didn't think

1182
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 4: anything of it because we leave the door open. Come

1183
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 4: it to your ex. Girlfriend just responded, It's funny how

1184
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 4: she has a different point of view. I'm glad she

1185
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 4: left you. You and your girlfriend suck. Have fun with

1186
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: your other girlfriend.

1187
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.

1188
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 7: Oh when we have the update from the girlfriend, Oh

1189
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 7: my gosh.

1190
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 5: I love it when this happens. We both sides and

1191
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 5: we had one story update.

1192
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 4: From user throwaway one to three four five seventy nine.

1193
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 4: Woo the ex girlfriend. Hi, I'm providing this update because

1194
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 4: I'm almost sure this is about me and my ex.

1195
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 4: The details are too fitting. Anyway, Yeah, I suggested we

1196
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 4: move down to his city. I said we could start

1197
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: looking for a place immediately. It's true that I agreed

1198
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 4: that we would live in the car and get a

1199
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: gym membership. He waited until we got down there to

1200
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: tell me we would be staying with a female friend

1201
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 4: of his for a few days. I was fine with that.

1202
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 4: A few days turned into three weeks. He completely neglected me,

1203
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 4: and our relationships suffer. I get that he's adjusting to

1204
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 4: a new job, but that's no excuse. Every time his

1205
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: friend needed something, he would jump right up. He was

1206
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 4: so busy kissing her butt that he didn't have time

1207
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 4: for me. M He expected me to clean her house.

1208
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 4: I refuse to be a made especially when I wasn't

1209
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 4: even given a choice in being there. I presented the

1210
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 4: idea of us living apart for a while until he

1211
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: got more established, and he would not hear it. He

1212
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 4: would follow me outside and prevent me from calling anyone,

1213
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 4: and even snatched my phone out my hands every time

1214
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: I tried throwman jail boy, Roman jail. This guy is

1215
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 4: going a stinky jail.

1216
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that's terrible.

1217
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 4: So, like any of that behavior at any point should

1218
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: be an immediate.

1219
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 5: The it's done, Like, yeah, I'm done. Yeah.

1220
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,959
Speaker 4: He wouldn't even sleep unless I was with him because

1221
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: he was afraid of me sneaking off. As he put it,

1222
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 4: he kept saying he needed me there because he loves

1223
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 4: me and needed me to get a new place. It

1224
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 4: was obviously after a while that he just wanted me

1225
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 4: there because he wouldn't be able to get a place

1226
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 4: without me.

1227
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1228
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 4: Sure, he's probably just going to stay with her, But

1229
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 4: I don't care anymore, it's not my concern. It became

1230
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: clear to me that he didn't care what I wanted.

1231
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 4: He wanted to do whatever he wanted and just expected

1232
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: me to deal with it. He would accuse me of

1233
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 4: being rude to him and his friend. Then, despite the

1234
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 4: fact that she completely ignored me, even when I was

1235
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 4: standing right next to him, she would act like I

1236
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 4: wasn't there and only talk to him. He made no

1237
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 4: attempt to fix this. It also became clear to me

1238
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 4: that she expected him to act like a dad to

1239
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 4: her son and act like a partner to her. He

1240
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 4: couldn't understand why I seemed jealous, even though the minute

1241
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 4: we arrived he stopped touching me and started ignoring me.

1242
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 4: This is just silver lining. You didn't marry this absolute dufius. Yeah,

1243
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 4: good job. I think he didn't give that far. Universe

1244
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 4: really helped you out here. He started doing her favors

1245
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 4: and spending all his free time with her. Then, when

1246
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 4: I brought it up, he said I was making baseless accusations.

1247
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 4: He tried to to excuse them closing her bedroom door

1248
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 4: by saying her son closed it. Be that as it may,

1249
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 4: he should have immediately opened it. Maybe just don't have

1250
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 4: conversations with another woman in her bedroom. Why you're with

1251
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 4: your fiance.

1252
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a communal space for a reason. Does a

1253
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 5: living room? Does a kitchen?

1254
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 7: Like I said, it is the biggest place in the

1255
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 7: whole apartment, because that only justifies it because it's the

1256
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 7: living room smaller than the bedroom.

1257
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 4: I want to be hanging out in the living room.

1258
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, what else it was he doing in her room?

1259
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 4: What this happened twice? Yet he couldn't understand why I

1260
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 4: did not trust him. I waited until he calmed down

1261
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 4: by pretending everything was cool. Then when everyone went to sleep,

1262
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 4: I took his fob, got my stuff out of the car,

1263
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 4: and ordered an uber Yes, queen. I went to a

1264
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 4: hotel and then got a bus ticket the next day. Yes, queen. Period,

1265
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 4: I'm staying with a friend in my hometown until I

1266
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 4: find a new place. Of course, he blew up my phone,

1267
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 4: so I just blocked him, but not before telling him

1268
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 4: it was over. He seems like a player anyway. Most

1269
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: of his friends are women, and he was also friends

1270
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 4: with his ex, who he talked about constantly. Red flag,

1271
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 4: red flag, red flag. Ay. Yeah, he never shut up

1272
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: about his female friends, a fear that he told me

1273
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 4: that he considered dating in the past. I just wasn't

1274
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 4: happy and he refused to let me break up with him.

1275
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 4: He was showing a lot of red flags, and I

1276
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 4: was done. I'm refusing to let you break up with

1277
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 4: him is like the sun in terms of how intense

1278
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 4: the red flag is. I've learned my lesson about moving

1279
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 4: in with someone I hardly know. I'm just glad to

1280
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 4: be away from him in his drama that he is

1281
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 4: always accusing me of creating. Thank you for reading comments

1282
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 4: here comment number one. It's always nice to hear the

1283
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 4: opposite side to the stories that are posted here. Oh,

1284
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: he says, I know I already replied to you, but

1285
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 4: I wanted to add that I'm glad I saw it

1286
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 4: because I see how he spun it in his favor

1287
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 4: to make me look entitled. I honestly think he only

1288
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 4: brought me there to be a live in housekeeper and babysitter.

1289
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 4: He deceived me. He told me that we were going

1290
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 4: to have a house ready, and then the minute we

1291
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 4: got into town, he was like, we're gonna be staying

1292
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 4: with my friend for a few days, and it became

1293
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 4: three weeks. He stopped being as affectionate and we stopped

1294
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 4: having spicy sleep. It happened once in three weeks, when

1295
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 4: normally it was a few days a week, and even

1296
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 4: in a car. Living in the car can we not

1297
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 4: also forget this couple has been without home for four months,

1298
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 4: living in first Op's car.

1299
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: I thought he was just talking about an X of his,

1300
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: like someone that he like kind of knew before. And

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00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, like I'm gonna go see my friend. Yeah,

1302
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: we like stopped sleeping together.

1303
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 5: Is that right? Did I hear that right?

1304
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 4: No? This is from the original, op Yeah, so this

1305
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 4: is from her perspective. The original was the man what

1306
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 4: he was talking about, Okay, in a car crazy? Living

1307
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 4: in a car for four months is nuts. We're doing

1308
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 4: in a car is wild?

1309
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 2: Well?

1310
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then that consistently for four months is untenable. Yeah,

1311
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 4: did you think that there was gonna be a place

1312
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 4: ready when you moved to this new city after living

1313
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 4: in a car for four months? Of course?

1314
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: Why? Like did want more info about that, about why

1315
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: they were moving in a car?

1316
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 4: He like, what he did have a job, and she

1317
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 4: says she's on disability and it's like, how are you

1318
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 4: guys going to move into a place in the new city.

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00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just.

1320
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Speaker 4: Glad you had this learning experience, Opie. Yeah, but I

1321
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 4: feel like you did learn a lot.

1322
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, it's a good lesson to learn.

1323
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1324
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 4: Also twice they were in her room with the door shut.

1325
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 4: I see he lied about that. He claims your son

1326
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 4: shut it, but even if he did, he should have

1327
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 4: immediately opened it. He blamed me, saying I should have

1328
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 4: opened it if I had a problem with it. I

1329
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 4: don't know her, so I wasn't going to do that.

1330
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 4: He took advantage of that and spun it in his favor.

1331
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 4: He knew exactly what he was doing. It doesn't matter, though,

1332
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 4: because I'm done. Reply says, no need to worry about that.

1333
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 4: Even in his own version of the story, he came

1334
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 4: off terribly in Lots of people called him out for it.

1335
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 4: The truth makes him sound even worse. Glad you got

1336
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 4: out of there, Opie says, oh, oh, thank you. I

1337
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 4: am too. He was throwing up so many red flags, girl,

1338
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 4: he was made out of red flags. I don't know

1339
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 4: how he thought any of that was okay. I think

1340
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 4: he just wanted to do what he wanted and expected

1341
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 4: me to go along with it. He must have thought

1342
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 4: I had zero self respect to put up with that.

1343
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but I don't care what they were doing.

1344
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 4: How was it okay for them to have the door closed.

1345
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 4: I don't care that her son supposedly closed it. He

1346
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: should have opened it immediately. He can try to justify

1347
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 4: it all he wants. He shouldn't have been in there.

1348
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 4: Why are we so focused on him being in this room, bro,

1349
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 4: We're focused on the wrong things.

1350
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Speaker 5: Sorry, I agree. Just leave.

1351
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 4: He can try to justify all he wants. He shouldn't

1352
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 4: have been in her room to begin with. I love

1353
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 4: how he lied and said that they left the door open.

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Speaker 2: That's the end of that story.