Speaker 1: The guys from Ping.
Speaker 2: They've kind of shown me how much the equipment matters.
Speaker 2: I just love that I can hit any shot.
Speaker 1: I kind of want. We're gonna be able to tell
Speaker 1: some fun stories about what goes on here to help
Speaker 1: golfers play better golf.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, everybody, welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds Podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm Shane Bacon, joined as always by Marty Jerts and
Speaker 2: Marty want to talk a little junior golf today. Just
Speaker 2: came off the heels of hosting an AJGA event in
Speaker 2: Texas and it brought me back, Marty, to my junior
Speaker 2: golf days. The Ping Hooper Bags, some of the golf
Speaker 2: clubs that we've talked a lot about on this podcast
Speaker 2: over the years. But I know you've had some experiences
Speaker 2: lately with your kids and some drive chip and putt stuff.
Speaker 2: What is it like being a father watching your kids
Speaker 2: compete in golf tournaments as you're still a guy that
Speaker 2: competes in golf tournaments, Like, what's it like being on
Speaker 2: that side of the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I speak for my wife too. She
Speaker 1: gets more nervous watching them than watching me or playing
Speaker 1: herself or anything like, especially drive chip and putt where
Speaker 1: there's only three shots, you know, you scull one chip
Speaker 1: and your toast. But Shane, it's been an amazing summer.
Speaker 1: My kids are seven and ten, so they're right in
Speaker 1: the sweet spot of like, hey, we're trying to get
Speaker 1: him to fall in love with the game. And they
Speaker 1: got a lot of other sports going on. It's not
Speaker 1: their only thing, but they got the bug right now,
Speaker 1: and we are just we're rolling with it. We're rolling
Speaker 1: with it. So yeah, my seven year old won the
Speaker 1: dry chip putt last weekend. Awesome and it was so fun,
Speaker 1: you know, and then he won and then big brother,
Speaker 1: ten year old, he's like an hour later, he did
Speaker 1: really good in driving, came in third, then chipping barely
Speaker 1: missed the grid. So he's like, okay, you know, you're
Speaker 1: kind of must make all three putts or make two
Speaker 1: out of three or something. And little brothers there he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: make make make you got this, you know, So they're
Speaker 1: cheering each other on. I mean, it's kind of a
Speaker 1: dream Shange. I like, did now be in that spot
Speaker 1: where the kiddos are, you know exact? I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm it wasn't that long ago. I was right, they're
Speaker 1: ten years old, you know, falling falling in love with
Speaker 1: this great game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the memories of junior golf pop up
Speaker 2: a lot in our brains, right, I mean, that's when
Speaker 2: we started to fall in love with golf. That's when
Speaker 2: we started to have our first you know, feelings of competition,
Speaker 2: you know, both positively and negatively. I remember there are
Speaker 2: plenty of rides home from junior golf tournaments where I
Speaker 2: shot a million and you're so bummed out and there's
Speaker 2: really nothing mom or dad can say to help you out.
Speaker 2: There was some pictures that your wife posted of you.
Speaker 2: They were awesome photos, by the way, like you're sitting
Speaker 2: next to your son and they're prepping for drive, chip
Speaker 2: and put. You said it, it's such a small competition
Speaker 2: compared to maybe a big golf tournament where you're playing
Speaker 2: nine holes or eighteen holes. How much coaching goes on there?
Speaker 2: Like what are you saying to your kids as they're
Speaker 2: getting set to go or is it just simply trying
Speaker 2: to get them as comfortable as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I did a little bit of coaching. Look
Speaker 1: out there, looking at the at the tea box and
Speaker 1: at the big tea and all the kids kind of
Speaker 1: just tea up on the right because it's close, but
Speaker 1: it's a little slopey, the grass is a little long.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, find a flat spot, get comfortable. I'm
Speaker 1: like working on their te height. You don't want them
Speaker 1: to pop it up, and you know, and then you know,
Speaker 1: you got to know the this is like regular stats
Speaker 1: and analytics. Like in the driving, it's way more important
Speaker 1: and drive your put to hit the grid than to
Speaker 1: like have two go far in one go out. So
Speaker 1: really just kind of, hey, you know, they got their
Speaker 1: kind of fairway finder swing so to speak. And my
Speaker 1: kids have played enough golf to kind of know, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to bomb this one or make sure
Speaker 1: I hit it straight. And last year they both missed
Speaker 1: the grid early on in the driving, and so we're
Speaker 1: really working on, hey, just you know, a fairway finder
Speaker 1: type of swing, and they all both kids hit the
Speaker 1: grid every time. So I was kind of we're kind
Speaker 1: of just talking through that, you know, and then also
Speaker 1: how to handle if you do miss it. You know,
Speaker 1: like it's okay, you got a lot of shots left.
Speaker 1: You can make it up, and chipping you can make
Speaker 1: it up, and putting so just making sure they have
Speaker 1: those recovery I guess, like recovery mechanisms like me and
Speaker 1: you you know my I was talking to somebody the
Speaker 1: other day, Shane about my PGA championship or I made
Speaker 1: the cut at Bethpage. Yeah, on number ten, hardest whole
Speaker 1: out there. Everyone knows that. And I doubled it, and
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is like a little story.
Speaker 1: I told my kids, like I had that adversity right
Speaker 1: out of the gate. You got to get your calm
Speaker 1: a lot of golf left, you know, do all that
Speaker 1: positive self talk. So that's why I was trying to
Speaker 1: kind of coach them through those recovery skills. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little I'm a little behind you in
Speaker 2: terms of my kid's age.
Speaker 1: I mean, my son's fly.
Speaker 2: My daughter's too slowly getting interested in golf. I will
Speaker 2: say this, though, I got a prodigy set of clubs
Speaker 2: for Henry about three months ago, and we've slowly kind
Speaker 2: of started to adapt him into his world and trying to
Speaker 2: play a little bit of golf. I think I got
Speaker 2: the hook though. I got some grips sent to me.
Speaker 2: I think Super Strokes sent kind of a media pack
Speaker 2: got a couple of weeks ago, and they were superhero
Speaker 2: themed grips. My son is obsessed right now with Spider Man.
Speaker 2: I slapped that Spider Man grip on his He has
Speaker 2: dialed It's like, Dad, when are we going to play golf?
Speaker 2: So it's like the one little hook you need to
Speaker 2: get him to get him involved. I wanted to ask
Speaker 2: you before we dive a little deeper into Prodigy and
Speaker 2: how it can kind of help junior golfers a I
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you what's the first junior golf memory
Speaker 2: you have, because I was thinking about mine and I
Speaker 2: think I've got mine. I was just wondering if you
Speaker 2: had a moment in junior golf when you're growing up,
Speaker 2: what age you were that you really maybe remember either competing,
Speaker 2: playing in a tournament, winning something, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2: And when did you switch to golf? Only because you
Speaker 2: mentioned it with your kids and it's something I'm going
Speaker 2: to be dealing with as well when you go from
Speaker 2: they're playing soccer and baseball and basketball, and I'm obviously
Speaker 2: a big proponent of that. I wanted you to play
Speaker 2: as much things as possible, But when did you flip
Speaker 2: to golf? Specifically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I flipped a golf specifically, Shane. I remember this.
Speaker 1: I was, I was pretty decent. I was. I'm a
Speaker 1: lefty throw lefty right. So I played first base. I pitched,
Speaker 1: and I was I wasn't like a super fan a pitcher,
Speaker 1: but I could throw like a lot of junk curve balls. Man.
Speaker 1: I even threw like a knuckleball, you know. But I
Speaker 1: had a really good pickoff move. So a lot of
Speaker 1: guys got on first, but I could pick them off.
Speaker 1: I had some good moves there, you know.
Speaker 2: Marty, did you have that? Did you have the first
Speaker 2: pickoff move that was slow and then you went to
Speaker 2: the second one was the real one? Or okay, that's
Speaker 2: I'm a lefty pitcher too, like same thing. It's like
Speaker 2: the first one you threw was super obvious, and then
Speaker 2: your actual pickoff mood was way.
Speaker 1: Just yes, exactly, my pickoff move was better than my pitches,
Speaker 1: you know. So but so I played baseball and I
Speaker 1: love basketball too. I just I wasn't you know, I
Speaker 1: wasn't great, and I think I was like, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I remember between eighth grade and my freshman year,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna go out for the basketball team,
Speaker 1: you know, And I went out for the tryouts, in
Speaker 1: a first practice or tryout or whatever. I got absolutely cooked,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm out. I'm out, Like running
Speaker 1: suicide wasn't in good enough cardio shape. Man. That's why
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm going all in on golf.
Speaker 1: I remember that moment, Jane, did you?
Speaker 2: Did you have a junior tournament that stood out to you,
Speaker 2: like even even before then, that you remember where either
Speaker 2: you remember the golf course or you remember cafeting, maybe
Speaker 2: you remember the score you posted, because you know these
Speaker 2: are like you and I were talking about, these junior
Speaker 2: golf moments are so big even when you get to
Speaker 2: be thirty and forty, like you remember those types of things.
Speaker 2: They mold you.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I have. My brain is just loaded with
Speaker 1: junior golf memories. I think, you know, I think I
Speaker 1: remember playing probably my first tournament where I walked myself.
Speaker 1: You know that. Now I'm out there still caddying for
Speaker 1: my kids, and then there's right at that separation point,
Speaker 1: my ten year old could be totally out on his zone,
Speaker 1: totally fine and good enough. But I remember playing junior
Speaker 1: golf of Arizona and it was a leisure World, this
Speaker 1: little retirement community in East Mesa, and it was super hot.
Speaker 1: It's June. We drive our, you know. I lived in
Speaker 1: a small town like two hours east of Phoenix, So
Speaker 1: my parents would wake me up at four in the
Speaker 1: morning or whatever. You'd have a six forty two tea
Speaker 1: time out at leisure World Number one. We'd leave the
Speaker 1: house at three point thirty. My parents wake me up,
Speaker 1: put me in the car at sleeping car and I
Speaker 1: remember playing leisure World. I was probably seven eight years
Speaker 1: old out there. You know. It was super hot and
Speaker 1: I was playing what I thought was decent with some
Speaker 1: other Phoenix kids, which was kind of intimidating. I'm from
Speaker 1: the small town. And there was a woman who had
Speaker 1: a little patio home out there and she was serving
Speaker 1: lemonade and I'm like, this is not like the eighth hole,
Speaker 1: and I'm just hot, thirsty. We all go over there
Speaker 1: get like this lemonade and it was like the best
Speaker 1: refreshment ever. Out on the golf course. I think I
Speaker 1: made a par coming in and that was like my
Speaker 1: first memory of a tournament golf and I was out
Speaker 1: there by myself. It wasn't my dad there helping me,
Speaker 1: and I think that was a big moment where I
Speaker 1: felt that kind of like independence, which was fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a similar experience. I remember I played
Speaker 2: an event and it was again it was like one
Speaker 2: of the first times that you feel kind of adulty
Speaker 2: when you're playing junior golf. Is again to your point,
Speaker 2: as it was an eighteen old golf tournament, there was
Speaker 2: you know, again there was like some good players in
Speaker 2: the field. I remember I shot seventy eight I think,
Speaker 2: and finished third, and so I remember they gave me
Speaker 2: like the sign where they write your names down and
Speaker 2: the scoring and they write your third next to it,
Speaker 2: put a star around it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Remember I took it home and put it on the
Speaker 2: back of my door and all that stuff, and I was,
Speaker 2: it's funny. It's funny you say eighth to ninth grade, Marty.
Speaker 2: That was the same for me, is I was playing
Speaker 2: competitive baseball get into golf, started to show some promise,
Speaker 2: and I remember when I went to high school, I
Speaker 2: made the decision that I was going to stop playing
Speaker 2: baseball and focus mainly on golf. And that was kind
Speaker 2: of my jumping off point to get into golf. And
Speaker 2: you know, you slowly start to lose other sports and
Speaker 2: maybe other hobbies and focus on golf. But we're gonna
Speaker 2: talk about junior golf. I think you and I probably
Speaker 2: both agree how important it is to be a relatively
Speaker 2: well rounded junior. You know, you don't have to be
Speaker 2: you know, focused and obsessed with golf right away. But
Speaker 2: something Ping is done that I think is super cool.
Speaker 2: They've introduced this product g Set, which I mentioned. I've
Speaker 2: got one for Henry and I'm sure eventually we'll get
Speaker 2: one for Charlotte as well. But what I find so
Speaker 2: cool is you measure your children. I did it with Henry.
Speaker 2: Was super easy, you know. And you measure height and
Speaker 2: I think it's from arms down and link of arms
Speaker 2: and things like that age, and they build a set
Speaker 2: like they build a set for you and me. And
Speaker 2: what is so cool about Prodigy is as they start
Speaker 2: to grow and as they get taller and they get bigger,
Speaker 2: yeap Ping allows you to send this set back once
Speaker 2: and they will rebuild it with the new sizing of
Speaker 2: your children and sit it back to you for free.
Speaker 2: So basically this is allowing people to get two sets
Speaker 2: of golf clubs for the price of one for their juniors.
Speaker 2: It's like one of the best golf programs out there.
Speaker 2: If I had no affiliation with Ping Marty, I would
Speaker 2: still tell people about this program because I think it's
Speaker 2: that important and that's special and that cool that juniors
Speaker 2: can jump into this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, Shane, and and the motivation for this. And
Speaker 1: I was kind of in this boat and a bunch
Speaker 1: of us that are developing product. You know, we're buying
Speaker 1: other you know, sporting goods for our kids, and we're
Speaker 1: all faced with this with this dilemma, Like I got
Speaker 1: my kids a mountain bike, and it's like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: should I get them the cheap one? Totally? You know,
Speaker 1: should I give them the cheap one because they're going
Speaker 1: to grow out of it in a year? In this
Speaker 1: in this other company had this program where hey, you
Speaker 1: can buy it. It's like a pretty night It's like
Speaker 1: the Prodigy version, you know, premium, nice, highly engineered version
Speaker 1: of of a little mountain bike. But they have this
Speaker 1: trade up program so you can send it back in
Speaker 1: or if little or if a younger brother wants it.
Speaker 1: Theyk got this a nice little program. Same thing with
Speaker 1: for skis, right, it's kind of that same thing, like
Speaker 1: you know next season they're going to be bigger, but
Speaker 1: you don't want to you don't want to buy them
Speaker 1: too big, like you don't want to buy a bike
Speaker 1: too big. I mean, this is a safety issue and
Speaker 1: all kinds of other stuff, so you want to get
Speaker 1: them in the sweet spot. And so golf equipment is
Speaker 1: very similar. And so that's why how we came up
Speaker 1: with that Get Golf Growing program so that we don't
Speaker 1: want the parents. There is a mistake that's very easy
Speaker 1: to make. It I don't blame them in the same boat.
Speaker 1: You know, uh to buy an invest in golf equipment
Speaker 1: that's too big for them. So it's going to last
Speaker 1: longer because they'll develop bad habits. You know, it's too long,
Speaker 1: they're going to grip down too much, too heavy, too
Speaker 1: hard to swing, things of that nature. So that's why
Speaker 1: we developed that Get Golf Growing program. You can use
Speaker 1: it to you know, either get two sets in one
Speaker 1: and have that product last several, two or three years
Speaker 1: for one kid or a lot of siblings playing the game.
Speaker 1: You can you can you can adjust the clubs the
Speaker 1: opposite way. If you've got a twelve thirteen year old
Speaker 1: that's on the tigh end of our Prodigy and then
Speaker 1: you got younger brother, younger sister there at eight or nine,
Speaker 1: they're going to grow up. Older sibling grows out of them.
Speaker 1: You can send them in for the Get Golf Growing
Speaker 1: program and adjust them shorter. That's no problem. That kind
Speaker 1: of fits fits the model of that program.
Speaker 2: Marty, What is the kind of like what are the
Speaker 2: age windows for Prodigy? Like, what do you guys tell
Speaker 2: people that this program is specific for in terms of
Speaker 2: maybe that age window from start from earliest to maybe
Speaker 2: the oldest ll age out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, our original Prodigy, which we're just launch a
Speaker 1: new one, new Prodigy, it was about eight to twelve
Speaker 1: years old. Okay, it was like fifty two to sixty
Speaker 1: two inches in height, but I mean we had so
Speaker 1: much demand for younger kiddos getting into the game that
Speaker 1: with the new Prodigy that we're just launching, that's going
Speaker 1: from forty eight inches to sixty two, which covers most
Speaker 1: kind of seven year olds. Now, so we were kind
Speaker 1: of eight to twelve or thirteen depending on your height,
Speaker 1: and now we're definitely in that you know, average sized
Speaker 1: seven year old, taller six year old can get in there.
Speaker 1: Although we up to a twelve or thirteen year old.
Speaker 2: Marty, You're obsessed with like finding the answers in terms
Speaker 2: of the equipment for golfers, right, I mean that's something
Speaker 2: that you've done your entire career is trying to build
Speaker 2: golf clubs that help the average golfer, the high handicapper,
Speaker 2: but it also helps somebody like you who can shoot
Speaker 2: under part and win big golf tournaments and play major championships.
Speaker 2: How do you dive into junior golf equipment and using
Speaker 2: your expertise and the team at PING that is so
Speaker 2: and so advanced, how does that team dive into something
Speaker 2: as simple quote unquote as junior golf equipment and use
Speaker 2: the same advances in the technology that we see in
Speaker 2: our equipment for junior golfers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fun. It's fun to take our product
Speaker 1: development philosophy, our research, our testing horsepower, Like we all
Speaker 1: these systems developed, Like we know how to run player testing.
Speaker 1: We pump people you've met at the proving ground. Shame
Speaker 1: we got two or three stations pumping all day long
Speaker 1: road player testing, and so it's fun to throw that
Speaker 1: horsepower and expertise at junior product So we'll bring in.
Speaker 1: There's some great junior programs around the valley, and we'll
Speaker 1: get all the kids in there. We'll schedule them, they
Speaker 1: come in, parents bring them in, and we run them
Speaker 1: through player testing in exactly the same tools they're hitting
Speaker 1: on track Man. We're doing gapping analysis, we're doing a
Speaker 1: B testing. We're doing qualitative questions, how's the weight and
Speaker 1: balance of this feel, We're measuring their stat areas. We're
Speaker 1: looking at launch conditions. We're running through our optimal launch
Speaker 1: and spin tools that we have for the mainline product
Speaker 1: and looking at stat areas and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: We're doing advanced modeling to try to get the headweight
Speaker 1: and the momentum figured out and all that stuff. So
Speaker 1: it's super fun to be able to throw all that
Speaker 1: horsepower at the junior product. And that's how we end
Speaker 1: up with things like you know, the driver loft being
Speaker 1: fifteen degrees right. This is from plugging it into our
Speaker 1: optimal launch and spin knowing that his speeds are down.
Speaker 1: Launch is more important than spin and things of that nature,
Speaker 1: and being able to dial all those characteristics in of
Speaker 1: the club and then also using what's really fun about
Speaker 1: the project products is we're using these same design designers,
Speaker 1: design engineers in manufacturing tools and capabilities like the driver
Speaker 1: is centrifically cast, thin wall machine, variable thickness, space, turbulators,
Speaker 1: counterbalance shaft. I mean, all those that all the same
Speaker 1: philosophies and design techniques. We're leaning into all that and
Speaker 1: leveraging it for our Prodigy product and being delivered it
Speaker 1: to the juniors. And when we do competitive testing with
Speaker 1: the Prodigy versus some of the other junior stuff on
Speaker 1: the market. I mean, it's just absolutely incredible. The performance
Speaker 1: games we see.
Speaker 2: What is something that has surprised you from the testing
Speaker 2: with junior golfers, Like something you thought you know going
Speaker 2: into it, you thought you knew maybe about how junior
Speaker 2: golfers swing or what they do things like that. What
Speaker 2: is something that maybe was completely different than where your
Speaker 2: mind would have sat before you guys got into the testing.
Speaker 1: I think the easy thing to do, and we find
Speaker 1: this a little bit of a Lady's product a little
Speaker 1: bit as well, Shane, is that it's not always it's
Speaker 1: not always best to go continue to go lighter and lighter.
Speaker 1: There's a sweet spot. It sounds easy like hey, you know, yes,
Speaker 1: if you cut down, you know, dad's old eight iron
Speaker 1: and go hit it's gonna be too heavy. But you
Speaker 1: can also make a mistake go on too light, and
Speaker 1: if you go too light on the headweight or the
Speaker 1: club weight, the kiddos will have a hard time, like
Speaker 1: finding the bottom of their swing or their low point.
Speaker 1: Is kind of the from a technical standpoint, but you know,
Speaker 1: what you see with the kids is they'll fin it,
Speaker 1: they'll top it. Now have a hard time getting that
Speaker 1: connection with their with their brain of figuring out where
Speaker 1: the bottom of the swing is. So that's the big
Speaker 1: thing is that you know, we've done some stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: looking at some numbers on paper and saying, hey, we
Speaker 1: should go lighter and lighter in the headway for reasons X,
Speaker 1: y and z, to get more ball speed, more launched,
Speaker 1: what have you. But then we go out and have
Speaker 1: the kids hit it and have a hard time finding
Speaker 1: the ground, finding the bottom. So there's a sweet spot
Speaker 1: there on headway. I think that's probably one of the
Speaker 1: biggest things, is how important it is to hit that
Speaker 1: sweet spot, not too heavy, not too light.
Speaker 2: What fitting advice do you have for parents that are
Speaker 2: either thinking about, you know, getting their kids clubs or
Speaker 2: they're thinking about, you know, investing into Prodigy. What do
Speaker 2: you tell parents about fitting for their kids for their juniors,
Speaker 2: even if they're maybe five or six years old, they're
Speaker 2: kind of just outside that window that Prodigy is offering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's you know, you want to kind
Speaker 1: of lean on just you can lean on just static
Speaker 1: information about your kid, you know, like how tall they are,
Speaker 1: what their height is, what the risk of Florida Shane.
Speaker 1: I would love to take you through at this point
Speaker 1: that fitting advice. Well, I think the overall fitting advice
Speaker 1: is use our new fitting app, Junior Webfit, Junior Webfit
Speaker 1: Junior Webfit, because it will guide you through how to
Speaker 1: think about, you know, what are the important things for
Speaker 1: your kiddo? Right? Should we should we jump in and
Speaker 1: do it? Yeah, let's do it live demo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is my favorite Marty stuff.
Speaker 1: You go.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you're if you're listening to this
Speaker 2: on your phone or at the gym or driving, you
Speaker 2: can also watch these episodes on the Ping YouTube page,
Speaker 2: which is beneficial for things like this because you'll be
Speaker 2: able to see this. So check all of the episodes
Speaker 2: out on our YouTube page. That's all under the Ping umbrella.
Speaker 2: There Marty's getting it dialed up right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Shane, we built webfit Wedge, you know, when
Speaker 1: we launched the S one fifty nine wedges in a
Speaker 1: kind of make you know again, that same philosophy as
Speaker 1: let's make the complex simple, which is you have all
Speaker 1: these grinds, you have all these loss we we built
Speaker 1: in gapping information. And so when it came time to
Speaker 1: think about, hey, how can we help both are both
Speaker 1: parents and our fitters build a tool that makes fitting
Speaker 1: and guiding somebody through Prodigy and how to fit it easy,
Speaker 1: We're like, okay, we got to design that for the kiddos, right,
Speaker 1: Because one of the fun things about Prodigy is that
Speaker 1: it's kind of an all a cart set. You can
Speaker 1: start with less clubs, you can add clubs as you go,
Speaker 1: you can start with the driver. We're not a box set.
Speaker 1: But because we're not a box set, I think some
Speaker 1: parents are fitters are like, oh, it's too open ended, right,
Speaker 1: So what you know? I got too many options here.
Speaker 1: So we designed junior webfits so it's junior dop webfit
Speaker 1: dot ping dot com to kind of help some help
Speaker 1: a parent and we're a fitter through how to configure
Speaker 1: the bag and Shane, we have some really fun stuff
Speaker 1: built in here. So my advice would be use junior webit.
Speaker 1: Let's jump in.
Speaker 2: Here, by the way, Marty. On the first page before
Speaker 2: you get going, it says it takes less than two
Speaker 2: minutes to receive recommendations. So if you're thinking I got
Speaker 2: to spend half an hour doing this literally, on the
Speaker 2: front page it says it takes less than two minutes
Speaker 2: to get this dial.
Speaker 1: Yes, super easy, super easy. So you dive in, you
Speaker 1: get started, and the first question is tell us about
Speaker 1: your junior skill level, right, and what this is. You know,
Speaker 1: we got kind of a beginner, intermediate or expert that
Speaker 1: plays often. What this is gonna do Shane, and in
Speaker 1: the algorithms is because there's a lot of parents out there,
Speaker 1: like I don't know if my kid's gonna like golf
Speaker 1: or no or not, I'm gonna send them to junior
Speaker 1: camp this summer. I just wanted to get started. So
Speaker 1: if you click beginner right, we're going to give the
Speaker 1: kiddo less clubs in the bag, okay, because it reduces
Speaker 1: the investment. You know, it takes a de risk it
Speaker 1: for the parents a little bit. They don't need as
Speaker 1: many clubs, right, if they're not hitting it as far,
Speaker 1: not playing as much golf, playing as much turnm golf.
Speaker 1: If you put expert in there, my kiddo's playing all
Speaker 1: the junior stuff and PGA Junior League, et cetera, we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna put more clubs in the back basically, right.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'll kind of answer this for my kiddos.
Speaker 1: I would call him intermediate. You know, this summer they're
Speaker 1: kind of playing a little bit more often. But I
Speaker 1: put intermedia there, and then you put in how old
Speaker 1: is your junior? Okay, so we're going to do something
Speaker 1: really fun with this, which i'll show at the end.
Speaker 1: So I'll do this for my ten year old ten
Speaker 1: year old? How tall? And he? I measured him this
Speaker 1: morning to get his numbers. Here, let me see you
Speaker 1: he's exactly four to nine. So we default this to
Speaker 1: the average for the age that you put in. Okay,
Speaker 1: make it kind of easy. So he's four foot nine
Speaker 1: fifty seven inches. Then it says calculating the average risk
Speaker 1: to floor. So what we do here, Shane is let's
Speaker 1: say grandparents shopping for the grandkids for Christmas? Right, forgive
Speaker 1: him some prodigy. We default this to the average risk
Speaker 1: of floor for that height. Okay, right, so yes, it
Speaker 1: helps if you measure it, but it's not super mission
Speaker 1: critical to get really good spec information. My kiddo was
Speaker 1: twenty six and a half, so kind of longer arms, right,
Speaker 1: So this will impact the li angle of his clubs.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a little bit flatter. He's got longer arms,
Speaker 1: twenty six and a half. So I'm gonna put that
Speaker 1: in there if you need help with how to measure it.
Speaker 1: We got a little helper text along the way. You know,
Speaker 1: wear shoes, not super tall shoes, but wear shoes, wear
Speaker 1: exactly to measure this information on the wrist of floor.
Speaker 2: I like to you idiot proof these things because these
Speaker 2: are questions that I would ask being, you know, a
Speaker 2: general idiot, and so it's nice that you do all
Speaker 2: that stuff to tell people like me out. I'm like,
Speaker 2: where do you start at the wrist? It actually shows
Speaker 2: you where to start the measurement on.
Speaker 1: The wrist exactly. And so we even put in here, Hey,
Speaker 1: ping estimates the risk of floor to be twenty eight
Speaker 1: if if that's kind of average for that height, right,
Speaker 1: then you click continue. So this is super fun. So
Speaker 1: based on a ten year old, the average ten year
Speaker 1: old swing speed, you know, with good launch conditions and
Speaker 1: average kind of a fairway firmness, will hit their driver
Speaker 1: about one hundred and sixty five yards total carry plus
Speaker 1: roll right, So it defaults to that, So we estimate
Speaker 1: the driving distance is one sixty five right now, my kiddo,
Speaker 1: because I have a little radar and I like having
Speaker 1: my kids swing out a little radar at the range,
Speaker 1: which is super fun. I would highly advise that if
Speaker 1: you want to kind of gamify and get your kiddo
Speaker 1: focus in on swing speed a little bit. He swings
Speaker 1: his driver at seventy two miles an hour, so about
Speaker 1: five miles an hour faster than the average, right, So
Speaker 1: you can go in there and do that. So it's
Speaker 1: like minion, he's working on it. He's working on it.
Speaker 1: It is an advantage. So if you have your kiddo
Speaker 1: go on a launch monitor. So if you're a fitter
Speaker 1: and you want to use this in a bay fitting bay,
Speaker 1: just have them go in there and swing the driver.
Speaker 1: You don't even need to have them get perfect launch
Speaker 1: conditions or maybe even focus over focused on smash factor.
Speaker 1: Maybe then that might be missing around the face a
Speaker 1: little bit. This just gives you their potential because the
Speaker 1: big thing we want to do with the junior club
Speaker 1: chain is tell the kiddo and the parents, like, what
Speaker 1: is their potential as they improve their skill the quality
Speaker 1: of their ball striking. Right, so we put in seventy
Speaker 1: two miles an hour. Again, you can default it to
Speaker 1: what the average is. Then you go in here and
Speaker 1: you haven't picked their putter. My seven year old and
Speaker 1: ten year old they're very different. My ten year old's
Speaker 1: kind of conservative.
Speaker 2: What's an answer?
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. He's like, oh, I show him this page.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yeah, answer for sure. My seven year
Speaker 1: old he's a little rebellious, you know, and trying to
Speaker 1: you know, put a stake in the ground. He's like
Speaker 1: he looks at the time. He's like, oh, that one
Speaker 1: for sure, that one looks cool. Yeah. So that is fun.
Speaker 1: With the new Prodigy, we have two different putter offerings.
Speaker 1: This is new for us, awesome because previously we had
Speaker 1: the boss putter. Now we got a classic answer three
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty gram had or you got the time
Speaker 1: you know better aiming in alignment and ball captured capabilities,
Speaker 1: you can pick up the ball with it a little
Speaker 1: bit easier, and things of that nature, a little more
Speaker 1: modern and contemporary. The headweight slightly heavier at three forty,
Speaker 1: so it's fun to have now with the new progy,
Speaker 1: two different options. So my ten year old he hey,
Speaker 1: he wants to go with the answer. And then we
Speaker 1: also new to the Prodigy this year, Shane, we have
Speaker 1: two different bag colorway all awesome, awesome yep. So we
Speaker 1: got a kind of more traditional black and then the
Speaker 1: white green white combination over there. And when I show
Speaker 1: this to my kiddos, they're like, I love the green
Speaker 1: and white, So we picked that one. And then you know,
Speaker 1: here we're finalizing the Junior's golf back. So what we're
Speaker 1: doing with this is where we got a bunch of
Speaker 1: algorithms in the background that are looking at all these
Speaker 1: things in the text that the top heire. Shane says,
Speaker 1: because you're junior is intermediate ten years old, driving distance
Speaker 1: one eighty, we recommend a set with nine clubs. As
Speaker 1: they get started, you can always add more as they grow. Okay, right, again,
Speaker 1: we built the logic in this experience. Took a couple
Speaker 1: minutes to go through as if you're getting fit by
Speaker 1: our fitters, our engineers at the Pink proven Grounds. This
Speaker 1: tool is now available to all the parents and all
Speaker 1: of our fitters out there. So it shows the entire bag.
Speaker 1: It shows the driver, the Fairrywood. You can look at
Speaker 1: all the specs. You can go over here, click this
Speaker 1: button chain which says ready to order, and we give
Speaker 1: you all the specs, the lanths relative to standard, the lingle. Again,
Speaker 1: my kid who has a little bit longer arms, so
Speaker 1: is color code is one degree flat red color code? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So, and Marty just like to look at the clubs
Speaker 2: that you're mentioning. It was nine golf clubs. It's driver
Speaker 2: Fairlyywood Hybrid. There's an iron in there? Is there multiple
Speaker 2: irons in there.
Speaker 1: It looks like we got six seven eight pitching wedge.
Speaker 2: Yep, and then a wedge of potter yep, and then
Speaker 2: the bag.
Speaker 1: I mean it's as awesome yep. So get you all
Speaker 1: that information. So hey, if you want to stop there,
Speaker 1: you're going to be like boom, that's perfect. Okay, Now
Speaker 1: check this out, Shane, we go down here. What we're
Speaker 1: scrolling down to is my kiddo's gapping report. So again,
Speaker 1: let's say we put in intermedia, but you're like, A,
Speaker 1: I don't know if my kiddo needs nine clubs, right,
Speaker 1: we recommend nine by default, but you're like, they might
Speaker 1: not play that much. I kind of want to just
Speaker 1: get them started a little lighter. You can go in
Speaker 1: and hit this. What we're looking at here for those
Speaker 1: folks listening is this little toggle and I'm moving. I'm
Speaker 1: moving this little slider from nine clubs down to seven.
Speaker 1: And we tell you the parent that the average gap
Speaker 1: is going to change to twenty three yards. So if
Speaker 1: you pump this up, their average gap is going to
Speaker 1: get tighter. Or if you want to go all in
Speaker 1: and get all eleven clubs, their average gap is going
Speaker 1: to be fourteen yards. So we provide this optionality. And Shane,
Speaker 1: if we put at the beginning of the junior webfit
Speaker 1: that the golfer was more of a beginning golfer, we
Speaker 1: would default that to seven clubs. Okay, okay, right, So
Speaker 1: that's kind of what's happening in the logic there. And
Speaker 1: then Hey, Shane, I gotta tell you I've been to
Speaker 1: a lot of junior tournaments the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows how far they hit the golf. Okay, the
Speaker 1: kids don't know, the parents don't know. They're out there.
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't know what club to hit. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna hit it good or not.
Speaker 1: You know, they're not on a launch monitor. So check
Speaker 1: this out. We built this junior yardage report based on
Speaker 1: how far you know, if you don't even need to
Speaker 1: know the swing speed, you just say the age and
Speaker 1: you'll go in here and it gives you a gapping
Speaker 1: report for both carrie and total, because that's super important.
Speaker 1: Hey can I carry that water? Can I carry that bunker?
Speaker 1: Can I do whatever? Total? In an average rollout of
Speaker 1: all the different clubs. There's a lot of assumptions in
Speaker 1: here because the kiddos don't always hit it perfect. So hey,
Speaker 1: this is if you hit it relatively solid. This is
Speaker 1: your potential that you can hit all these clubs. It
Speaker 1: gets even better. Shame. We're gonna click this button here
Speaker 1: says download your gapping report. And what's happening is now
Speaker 1: it's generating a PDF. Look at that you get to
Speaker 1: print out. You can change the size of this thing,
Speaker 1: laminate it, put it on your golf bag when you
Speaker 1: go play junior tournaments.
Speaker 2: I gotta find I gotta find my laminated Cherry Hills card.
Speaker 1: I got it right here.
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be just like the
Speaker 2: Prodigy deal. I got my guy right for the diameter
Speaker 2: last year. That is so cool. Do you even personalize it?
Speaker 2: At the top it says Prodigy Blank's yardage Books. You
Speaker 2: could throw the kids name in there and then you
Speaker 2: could put it in their yardage book, your yardage book.
Speaker 2: That is awesome. That is that is great. I mean
Speaker 2: we're pushing people in theory to buy a Prodigy set
Speaker 2: for their kids. They could have this yardage book sheet
Speaker 2: and not even buy the clubs in theory, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: this could be just a bonus.
Speaker 1: Yep, that is really a bonus. And we put on there. Hey,
Speaker 1: as your kids grow, they'll hit it further, because I'm
Speaker 1: noticing those with my kids. We have these curves that
Speaker 1: show how much swing speed the kiddos develop over time,
Speaker 1: and as they grow. You scan the QR code on there,
Speaker 1: go back through it, make yourself a new sheet. We
Speaker 1: put the date on there because that's super important to
Speaker 1: make sure. So we wanted to build this tool, Shane.
Speaker 1: This took like two minutes to go through. If you're
Speaker 1: kind of answering these questions to kind of make it easy,
Speaker 1: get your custom built set, customize the lengths, the lie goals, everything,
Speaker 1: all the magic happens with the club weights and things
Speaker 1: of that nature, but also help you make it fun
Speaker 1: and solve this problem that a lot of the parents
Speaker 1: and kids have. How far should I be hitting my clubs? Right?
Speaker 1: That's really the question at hand here, And then if
Speaker 1: you go play a little junior tournament, you can bring
Speaker 1: this little yarded sheet with you and have some fun.
Speaker 1: I you know, it's just like, you know, this kind
Speaker 1: of started with my wife and I driving to a
Speaker 1: junior tournament and she's cattying from seven year old and
Speaker 1: she's like, how far does he hit all those clubs?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We got to figure something out.
Speaker 1: So hey, we built an app for that. You know.
Speaker 2: That is so cool, Marty. And one thing I do
Speaker 2: think with golf equipment in general is there are and
Speaker 2: Ping does an amazing job with the websites and all
Speaker 2: the tools and the web tools and apps and things
Speaker 2: like that. But you can order this directly through this app, right,
Speaker 2: I mean you can go through the process. There's a
Speaker 2: button that says ready to order, and boom you can
Speaker 2: get it ordered and all that after the two minutes
Speaker 2: you spent building this is that correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah, with our Prodigy product, absolutely you can. We'll have
Speaker 1: a place on our website where you can take these
Speaker 1: specs and enter them and place the order with us
Speaker 1: right there on the website. Now being said, I mean
Speaker 1: our accounts do a wonderful job. Now demo equipment or
Speaker 1: the Prodigy, certainly we highly encourage that. I think the
Speaker 1: junior product is kind of in that space where you
Speaker 1: can really lean on kids just a tight risk of
Speaker 1: floor to dial in the specs. Is they get a
Speaker 1: little more speed, generate more spin, then it gets more
Speaker 1: important to get them on a launch monitor, start looking
Speaker 1: at their launching spin. You know, maybe if they're in
Speaker 1: that you know, very fast thirteen year old you know
Speaker 1: fast twelve year old range, then you can maybe look
Speaker 1: at some of other mainline products, especially in the woods,
Speaker 1: to kind of start dialing in launch conditions, launching spin
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. But certainly, just leaning on
Speaker 1: this app this information could get you started. Shane. One
Speaker 1: other thing you can do here is send an email,
Speaker 1: you know, Like again, let's say, yeah, grandparents want to
Speaker 1: want to buy buy the kiddo's clubs for Christmas. They
Speaker 1: want the parents to go through here. They can forward
Speaker 1: this to the grandparents, right, you can. You can forward
Speaker 1: it to your golf pro at your course, right or
Speaker 1: your kiddo's junior teacher who's runding their junior camp things
Speaker 1: of that nature, email it to them, and that yardage
Speaker 1: report goes to them as well.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's it's so cool because I mean,
Speaker 2: I think we've talked a lot about like making all
Speaker 2: of this simpler and making it easier to understand in general,
Speaker 2: and we're talking mostly on this podcast about equipment for
Speaker 2: you and me, Marty, and then equipment for my dad
Speaker 2: or for my buddy Andrew. Right, Like that's the equipment conversations.
Speaker 2: We're having to see this much time and investment put
Speaker 2: into junior golf and into helping junior golfers a find
Speaker 2: something that works for them and be I mean, this
Speaker 2: is cool, right, Like you could sit on a computer
Speaker 2: with your kid and go through this, and I guarantee
Speaker 2: you kids are gonna be interested by it, right, They're
Speaker 2: gonna love the fact that they get to plug in
Speaker 2: their own information and have something built specifically for them,
Speaker 2: and then see the card on the back end that
Speaker 2: tells them how far they should hit certain golf clubs.
Speaker 2: Like this gets them more interested in the game, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, if they're already in love with the game,
Speaker 2: that's great, but there are opportunities here with how this
Speaker 2: is structured that you could get kids more interested in
Speaker 2: the game simply by the three or four minutes it
Speaker 2: takes to get them set up with Prodigy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. My kiddos love going through it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Obviously as we're working on the prototype, i'd show it
Speaker 1: to them and things that nature. I mean, they love
Speaker 1: how choices, They love that it's not a box set.
Speaker 1: I can't stress that only you got choices. And that's
Speaker 1: new to this year's Prodigy. Our new Prodigy product is
Speaker 1: having the two different putter options, They're having the two
Speaker 1: different bag options, being able to see, hey, do I
Speaker 1: have a gapping issue or not? Do I need more
Speaker 1: clubs or not? And making that dynamic kind of back
Speaker 1: and forth super duper fun. Yeah, you know, I'm bringing
Speaker 1: a little technology. The kids are on the computer a
Speaker 1: little more they're they're I mean, they'll whizz through this
Speaker 1: faster than the parent.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, my children or not aven other
Speaker 2: reason to be on the computer. But if this is
Speaker 2: the reason, I would be okay with that. We're in
Speaker 2: that world right now with both kids, I think where
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, Dad's computers a toy, or like no,
Speaker 2: this is a no touch situation. But that is awesome
Speaker 2: and this is so cool. I'm excited to jump into
Speaker 2: this with Henry in about a year and a half
Speaker 2: or so, when he gets a little bit bigger and
Speaker 2: a little bit more interested. But like I said that
Speaker 2: Spider Man Gripman, I think it's gonna it's gonna do
Speaker 2: wonders for the golfing space.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And Shane, I think so. Just talking a
Speaker 1: little bit about the new Prodigy designs, I think some
Speaker 1: of the one of the funnest things that my kiddos
Speaker 1: have been using is a prototype. But now it's finally
Speaker 1: out there, live and available to everybody. Is we took
Speaker 1: our S one fifty nine half moon grind. In the
Speaker 1: original Prodigy, we went fifty two and fifty six as
Speaker 1: the two wedges. A little bit of a philosophical challenge
Speaker 1: like do you give the kiddo a fifty eight or
Speaker 1: sixty you kind of do they get better developing their
Speaker 1: skills of the fifty six. A lot of debate around this,
Speaker 1: hours of debate should you make a fifty eight or
Speaker 1: sixty available to the kiddo. So we feel like we
Speaker 1: hit the perfect spot where with the wedges we went,
Speaker 1: we went pitching. The pitching wedge has a lot more
Speaker 1: loft on it this year has I think three degrees
Speaker 1: more loft on it. We kind of regapped the old
Speaker 1: irons so they go a little bit higher, made the
Speaker 1: six iron a little easier to hit things of that nature.
Speaker 1: So we go pitching wedge. Then we go fifty four
Speaker 1: in the fifty four and the fifty look like players wedges.
Speaker 1: They're like exactly our s one fifty nine shaping my favorites.
Speaker 1: The fifty eighth degree it has the h grind, our
Speaker 1: half moon grind, bake grind into it. This thing is incredible,
Speaker 1: like my kiddo's going around the chipping green now being
Speaker 1: able to open the face, get all the benefits of
Speaker 1: that half moon grind. Like it looks phenomenal, like so
Speaker 1: inspiring for shot making and It's truly been highly beneficial
Speaker 1: for them because they love spending time, especially my seven
Speaker 1: year old, around the chipping green, manipulating the face, hit
Speaker 1: some blow, hit some high open the face, lay the
Speaker 1: handleback in that h grind is the ultimate grind, super
Speaker 1: popular on the PGA Tour with our tour players. Now
Speaker 1: it's available to the kiddos. That's one of the most
Speaker 1: exciting design improvements I'm excited about with the new produce set.
Speaker 2: I mean, is there anything better than being a kid
Speaker 2: and just sitting on the chip and green and hitting
Speaker 2: a million different chip shots like that was easily the
Speaker 2: best part about being a kid. Like competing, Yes, playing
Speaker 2: roop ears things like that is awesome, but chipping when
Speaker 2: you were a kid and you had nothing else to
Speaker 2: do for three hours but to hit one hundred different
Speaker 2: bunker shots and to see how this one performed, that
Speaker 2: is the most fun. So allowing them offering them an
Speaker 2: option where they could take one club to the chipp
Speaker 2: and green in theory and hit fifty different golf shots
Speaker 2: is a really small improvement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the way I mean it's that fifty eight
Speaker 1: degree looks awesome, Like just it's inspiring to see that
Speaker 1: age grind, you know, half moon grind. Yeah, having a
Speaker 1: lot of fun around the chipping green. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I talked about, you know, regapping the whole set.
Speaker 1: So we kind of made seven iron and up a
Speaker 1: little bit more relaxed loft, make the gapping a little
Speaker 1: bit better, six irons slightly stronger, and then we go
Speaker 1: to a hybrid. The hybrid super fun has twenty eight
Speaker 1: degrees a loft. Okay, so this is not like a
Speaker 1: nineteen degree hybrid. You know, this thing gets up in
Speaker 1: the are super easy. The Fairywood has twenty two degrees
Speaker 1: a loft on it. I talked about the driver having fifteen,
Speaker 1: and then Shane, we talked about bringing in like you know,
Speaker 1: our mad You're engineering horsepower into our products. The driver
Speaker 1: has spinsistency face design built into it. Okay, so it
Speaker 1: has a variable Bolden roll shaped to it, and again
Speaker 1: all optimized for the kiddo's swing speeds. How much the
Speaker 1: gear effect is going to impact the spin axis when
Speaker 1: they mishit it, things of that nature in it showed
Speaker 1: in our product testing we had tighter SAT area than
Speaker 1: its predecessor product, more consistent spin regardless where they hit
Speaker 1: across the face. We tuned in the weight and balance
Speaker 1: across the entire set to improve it. We made the
Speaker 1: driver slightly lighter, not by much, slightly lighter to kind
Speaker 1: of optimize the headweight in the momentum and help the squaring.
Speaker 1: And then we have the CTP weights and all the
Speaker 1: irons which helps dial in the weight and balance and
Speaker 1: helps us with that give Golf Growing program. If you
Speaker 1: send them in and get the reweighted, we have the
Speaker 1: ability to reweight the headweights. So a lot of fun
Speaker 1: stuff happening on the technology side, obviously super fun and
Speaker 1: excited about Webfit Junior and the fitting side of it.
Speaker 2: Morty, is there like a ping way. Now you have
Speaker 2: ping Man that you can use to fit for certain equipment.
Speaker 2: Do you guys have to like build a ping boy
Speaker 2: to to have ping Boy roll out and mess around
Speaker 2: with Prodigy?
Speaker 3: We can ramp the ping Man down, you know. One
Speaker 3: of the funniest things becomes ping boy. That's right, King
Speaker 3: Man becomes ping boy, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 3: one of the funnest things about ping Man is we'll
Speaker 3: have it hit a chip shot that flies like five yards, okay,
Speaker 3: And in order to do it, because the servo motors
Speaker 3: and things of that nature. It still takes the john
Speaker 3: daily like all the way back and then it comes
Speaker 3: down and then decelerates the club coming into the impact,
Speaker 3: So super long swing goes down, slows down, then joint
Speaker 3: kids a chip like five yards out into the rocks.
Speaker 2: It's really funny, like perfect that was still we're hoping
Speaker 2: to well, this is exciting. I have one last question
Speaker 2: for you, Marty, and this is kind of post Prodigy.
Speaker 2: So when you talk to kids, you see junior golfers
Speaker 2: and they're really into the game and they go through
Speaker 2: the Prodigy program and they kind of age out. What
Speaker 2: equipment do they typically move into next once they go
Speaker 2: from Prodigy to maybe you know, a fuller set of
Speaker 2: clubs or fourteen clubs?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it all over the place or do you see
Speaker 2: them gravitate toward one set of irons or one set
Speaker 2: of clubs that make the most sense.
Speaker 1: I think in general. So if it's a pretty avid
Speaker 1: golfer like our I two thirty series is like what
Speaker 1: I was gonna That's what I's I figured perfect transition
Speaker 1: head size. We have some great shaft offerings in there.
Speaker 1: We can we have a lot of loft in live
Speaker 1: flexibility with a with a waiting system we have built
Speaker 1: in there, we can we can hit the headway targets
Speaker 1: just perfectly. The head size is just the perfect sweet
Speaker 1: spot where you still can you get that mix of
Speaker 1: ample mount of forgiveness, but you can still shape the
Speaker 1: golf ball. So I two thirty set for the avid
Speaker 1: junior players. Perfect.
Speaker 2: All right, one more time before we go. The website
Speaker 2: for Webfit Junior is.
Speaker 1: Junior dot web Fit, dot ping dot com, nice and
Speaker 1: fiting dot com. You can navigate there on our website
Speaker 1: just clicking on Prodigy and Junior Fitting too, and.
Speaker 2: We'll throw that link in the show notes as well
Speaker 2: if you need that. But I mean, it's a great program.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I have it for my son already,
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it for my daughter. I mean,
Speaker 2: Marty's obviously be extremely invested in this and making it
Speaker 2: easier for parents. And I think the cool thing, and
Speaker 2: Marty mentioned it a couple of times, is the simplicity
Speaker 2: of this and we ran through it. Obviously going through
Speaker 2: point by point you could do it a couple of minutes,
Speaker 2: but the simplicity of it, even if you don't know
Speaker 2: all the information, you know, simply the age of the kid,
Speaker 2: maybe the height of the kid. You ask the parents.
Speaker 2: This is a very easy thing for somebody that wants
Speaker 2: to buy golf clubs for a kid in their lives.
Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be their own children, if it's your
Speaker 2: grandkids or a niece, a nephew, things like that. This
Speaker 2: is an easy program to make it easier on you
Speaker 2: and the parents to get it exactly specified for the children.
Speaker 2: And I think that's what's so special about kind of
Speaker 2: you know, seeing the two point zero version of this
Speaker 2: is it's going to make it just simply easier to
Speaker 2: do it. I mean, all we want to do is
Speaker 2: buy stuff online, right, So if we can make it,
Speaker 2: you know, cut down on ten minutes of somebody's time,
Speaker 2: that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, Shane, if you think about, all you
Speaker 1: need is the age and the height of the kiddo, right,
Speaker 1: and where are they beginning or expert or intermediate? Like
Speaker 1: are they just barely get into the game or they
Speaker 1: play a lot? Those are really the only three questions
Speaker 1: you need. You can get more advance if you want to,
Speaker 1: but you don't have to, like, you know, just make
Speaker 1: it that simple. And again, it's fun to be able
Speaker 1: to pass our our gapping tools. You know, some of
Speaker 1: them are kind of reserved for our fitters. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so you got to go in and see a fitter
Speaker 1: to get access to him. This one is available to
Speaker 1: all the kiddos and parents house.
Speaker 2: It's like super consumer based, and that's what's so important
Speaker 2: about it. Marty. That is awesome. Congrats by the way,
Speaker 2: on all the on all the kid golf success. I
Speaker 2: know that's so fun for you as a as a dad.
Speaker 2: In between, you know, you take it home trophy after
Speaker 2: trophy after trophy always. I can only imagine, like you said,
Speaker 2: the nerves of watching, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Shane, Shane, watching the kiddos the highs and there's
Speaker 1: so many highs and lows with the kids like you
Speaker 1: experienced it and play bad. I mean I remember shedding
Speaker 1: some tears after. Oh for sure, you can be embarrassed.
Speaker 1: You have these expectations. You know. The thing with the
Speaker 1: kids golf is it's way more variable. Like me and you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot between sixty eight and seventy two or
Speaker 1: three most of the time, right, I got a tight
Speaker 1: standard deviation. But the kiddos man I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: they're shooting low scores. My kids can shoot in the
Speaker 1: high thirties to the fifties, like it's every day. It's
Speaker 1: like you don't know what's coming out of there.
Speaker 2: What roller coaster we get in today.
Speaker 1: As the drive home, it's really good for life skills,
Speaker 1: you know. It's just a metaphor for life.
Speaker 2: Marty, do you do the parenting thing where after the round,
Speaker 2: you guys drive home and just talk about the entire
Speaker 2: round on the drive home. It's like one of my.
Speaker 1: Favorite kids are getting more into that. I kind of
Speaker 1: lean on my kiddos to see what their mood is,
Speaker 1: and they're getting in that mode chain that's just like
Speaker 1: just like the guys, you're like, tell them the stories happened.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done that, you know. I finish this.
Speaker 2: When my dad and I would do that. I remember specifically,
Speaker 2: I was playing an event in Waco, Texas. It was
Speaker 2: this junior tournament back in my day called the Starburst,
Speaker 2: and it was a big junior event in Texas and
Speaker 2: I played well the final round. My dad was caddying.
Speaker 2: It was super hot. I think I shot a couple
Speaker 2: under and moved well up the leader board. It was
Speaker 2: about a four hour drive home. Three and a half
Speaker 2: hour drive home, and I think my dad and I
Speaker 2: talked around the entire drive home.
Speaker 1: We got home.
Speaker 2: My mom was like, I can't believe you idiots can
Speaker 2: do that. I can't believe that you people could talk
Speaker 2: about a golf round for four hours after you've just
Speaker 2: been four hours doing And I was like, that's the
Speaker 2: best part of golf is the conversation. But this is
Speaker 2: super cool. Make sure you check it out. Prodigy line
Speaker 2: is gonna be awesome. Obviously, the new line more expansive
Speaker 2: and more options for so many junior golfers. So check
Speaker 2: that out and get your kids fit. We'll be back
Speaker 2: next week with another episode. This is the Pink Proven
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