Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, Brenda and.
Speaker 2: I have a bet. I can't wait till you mend
Speaker 2: and knee.
Speaker 1: I want to do that, man. We got a vibe
Speaker 1: check on the team. We talk about free agents, we
Speaker 1: talk about trades, we talk about the draft, the direction
Speaker 1: this team is going. Man, we are stoped and we
Speaker 1: got a run down. We break down the NFC East.
Speaker 1: Where's everybody at and where do we fit? It? All
Speaker 1: starts right now. Welcome to The Command Center Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Logan Volser with Fred Spoot and Tantama said. As always,
Speaker 1: we're sented by Cogyo Technology, Secure Today, Shape Tomorrow, and
Speaker 1: before we get into our wonderful show today, we got
Speaker 1: some housekeeping to take care of. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys haven't been paying attention. Fred and I
Speaker 1: have a bet. It's about It's a draft bet. Fred, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so basically on our other show, Take It to
Speaker 1: the Draft Podcast makes you check that out if you
Speaker 1: want all draft content. It's an hour a week of
Speaker 1: strictly draft stuff. Last year we did something where we
Speaker 1: said these are our surefire prospects, and so these guys
Speaker 1: are for sure gonna hit and in the bet basically,
Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact wording, but one of us
Speaker 1: has to get down on the knee if we lose
Speaker 1: and say that you are the best draft analysts. And
Speaker 1: I am terrible because I am so lone.
Speaker 2: That he's the gul Right, I'm the draft guru.
Speaker 3: He is the So my question is, is this gonna
Speaker 3: be the first bet you win or have a have
Speaker 3: a chance to win, because I feel like you'll bet
Speaker 3: two or three times a year.
Speaker 2: I don't know one of them that you won, yet
Speaker 2: this might be the one.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm a little nervous, So I don't remember exactly
Speaker 1: who I picked, but I do remember picking two guys
Speaker 1: that were injured for most of the year, and I
Speaker 1: do remember I don't remember the exact guy's Fred picked,
Speaker 1: but I remember he picked some absolutely crazy people. And
Speaker 1: so I don't know. Did you go back and listen
Speaker 1: to the show?
Speaker 2: You know what? I haven't, But it seems to me
Speaker 2: that you're a little Fred.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Fred, I'm a little afraid because in terms of
Speaker 1: things in my life that I don't want to do,
Speaker 1: getting on a knee in front of you and saying
Speaker 1: you're the best is something I don't want to do.
Speaker 2: Every day, the sun gonna shine down.
Speaker 1: Just because you're you are so confident. Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 3: I don't need that because he aligned tell everybody you
Speaker 3: did it, even if you didn't do it. You know,
Speaker 3: so it has to be recorded because he would tell
Speaker 3: everybody the story.
Speaker 2: About what you do.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you said that. So in order to
Speaker 1: make it for for posterity, for the record, we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna air the bet being executed on the Command
Speaker 1: Center Show Bird, and it'll be on TV on your birthday.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy, you're gonna do it on my birthday.
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't. I didn't. That's something Jason Is said. Jason,
Speaker 1: I think Maddie you should probably get mad and Maddie
Speaker 1: producer Maddie Caroline might have been on that decision. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, I hate to say if you were riding the
Speaker 4: tape five years ago, before we started really working together,
Speaker 4: I called it out on a draft special that Deebo
Speaker 4: Samuels would be my second round pig.
Speaker 2: He turned out to be a star. Now he's in washed.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let me just say this. You can pick
Speaker 1: one person that you were right on every year. You
Speaker 1: can do that.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I can cher death Rickling draft.
Speaker 4: I think I went ten to fifteen. No, W told
Speaker 4: you I went sometimes like he gonna think about it.
Speaker 4: That makes us different. You're more analytical. You want numbers,
Speaker 4: you want this me. I need to set my eyes
Speaker 4: on them. I'm a field guy. I need to be
Speaker 4: around this guy. I want to know who they love.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say one thing. I'm gonna say one thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say one name. Let me say one name.
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Forbes. I was. I was.
Speaker 2: He was mishandled.
Speaker 1: I was not as high on him.
Speaker 2: No, he was mishandled by a coach.
Speaker 5: That's all I remember.
Speaker 2: He was mishandled. Can we can we say?
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is what I say. Like anybody, I
Speaker 1: can go through any draft at us and be like,
Speaker 1: what about so and so? What about this? Like this
Speaker 1: is the draft, this is why it's hard and so
Speaker 1: I'm not it's not a criticism.
Speaker 2: I apologize this point. I think you said for because
Speaker 2: it was a it was a personal connection.
Speaker 3: The j I mean, he didn't play well. Hire he's elsewhere.
Speaker 3: Now that's hopefully have a you know, it turned out
Speaker 3: to have a great career.
Speaker 2: We just had so much in coming. I was pulling
Speaker 2: for you need me from.
Speaker 1: Missis pulling for him. The talent on the film was there,
Speaker 1: and you weren't the only one who felt that way, right,
Speaker 1: So I think that's the thing is like when you
Speaker 1: say what the thing I have I have umbradge with
Speaker 1: is the fact you said you went ten for ten.
Speaker 1: Because there's no chance you went ten for ten.
Speaker 2: I did. I went one hundred percent, one hundred lips.
Speaker 2: You can't help You cannot help himself. That's why you
Speaker 2: got a fact check him. Why y'all y'all fact check me?
Speaker 4: Like every time I say something, Like every time I
Speaker 4: say something, even in the office, every time I say something,
Speaker 4: they fact checking everything that I say.
Speaker 2: Well, I told him.
Speaker 4: Now today that a chainsaw was designed for not cutting trees,
Speaker 4: for c six.
Speaker 2: Did you not know?
Speaker 1: No way, that's true. It's true, Caroline, Caleb is true.
Speaker 1: Caleb Key is her name, but K.
Speaker 2: I don't even say key. It is with a K.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you can do your research.
Speaker 4: Chainsaws were designed for Sea six from Mount.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his mouth to your So we got an intern. Caroline,
Speaker 1: She's gonna are you still an intern, Caroline, No, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna produce her now.
Speaker 2: Also bred literally the first thing that pops up.
Speaker 4: No, casus were not originally invented, but rather a medical
Speaker 4: tool to aid in childbirth, specifically.
Speaker 1: To assist sections.
Speaker 5: No, but he says specifically the literal persons.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: No, Well, he was close. Thing.
Speaker 3: So the crazy thing about it, he almost is always close.
Speaker 2: Even if he's not right. That's right, He's always close.
Speaker 1: He's always in the ballpark. So basically, let's make sure
Speaker 1: we check out that show Bett executed. I'm nervous. Friend's excited.
Speaker 1: He thinks he's got this in the bag. But basically,
Speaker 1: it's like the person that gets to be the draft
Speaker 1: expert for the next year he.
Speaker 5: Called the draft.
Speaker 4: I'm afraid that if I had to get down on
Speaker 4: the knee, my bag might give that.
Speaker 1: I still I think about that. I was I was
Speaker 1: at I was at film co the other day and
Speaker 1: I looked across. I thought Fred was laying right there,
Speaker 1: right on the ground.
Speaker 5: The way the way his luck is, he's probably gonna get.
Speaker 2: And guess what.
Speaker 4: I'm happy that they happened, because that they showed me
Speaker 4: mortality that I had crossed. I have crossed the threshold.
Speaker 4: And it also said store back working out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's what if it had done anything to me? Hot,
Speaker 3: yogi bet do something.
Speaker 1: But Tenner, he's been telling us you gonna work out.
Speaker 1: He's like, I've been working out for two years.
Speaker 5: Now you work out.
Speaker 1: I gotta start working out.
Speaker 2: No bumping his gums every day.
Speaker 5: That's what it's worked out.
Speaker 2: It's nothing.
Speaker 4: There's nothing more humbly than listening to cors and truck
Speaker 4: drive past you while you lay on the ground in
Speaker 4: front of a gas station because your back.
Speaker 2: Then went out.
Speaker 3: And I guarantee you, while you was on your back,
Speaker 3: you were reaching for your pocket seeing if you had
Speaker 3: a question on it.
Speaker 2: Got my light on me.
Speaker 3: Anywhere you get on the ground, you want to you
Speaker 3: want to put a a more brutal You know what.
Speaker 2: Really helped me when somebody drove hands there and blew
Speaker 2: their hole. It's wild.
Speaker 1: It's mild to me that no one came over and helped.
Speaker 1: It's just like no one even was like, hey man,
Speaker 1: you are a right.
Speaker 2: That happened in the richest kind of American people got.
Speaker 4: No love, no love, And this is not like I
Speaker 4: was laying there for a minute.
Speaker 2: I was legitimly down.
Speaker 1: But say to me, you should have called me man,
Speaker 1: I would have come by and helped you out.
Speaker 2: My keys come help. Now you got it? Pop?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So well watch the show. My friend's back
Speaker 1: goes out. That'd be great to see, if you know,
Speaker 1: if I don't know if I'm gonna say it to you,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can tell this deal. I
Speaker 1: know it is. I don't want to say it though.
Speaker 1: I really don't want to say it.
Speaker 4: Listen, man, a lot of people don't like to say
Speaker 4: true things to people.
Speaker 1: Man, the truth, the.
Speaker 2: Good rule versus the nerd. I can't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. But we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna check it out, check it out. All right.
Speaker 1: So now it's time to get to the show. After
Speaker 1: that lovely housekeeping section, now it's the vibe check, right,
Speaker 1: So vibe check, we're just kind of talking state of
Speaker 1: the union, where the team's at after all the trades,
Speaker 1: what's going on, and then kind of looking forward to
Speaker 1: the draft a little bit. All right. So the first thing,
Speaker 1: and I think it's very exciting, is we don't need
Speaker 1: to worry about quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yes, for a long time.
Speaker 4: They just thank God because we have been on this
Speaker 4: roller coaster. All right, Think about all the quarterbacks. I
Speaker 4: started off with Jim George as a quarterback my rookie year.
Speaker 4: It ended up being Tony Banks body.
Speaker 2: He was the guy that hit his head on the wall.
Speaker 2: He was it before.
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, you're talking about now you want to hear
Speaker 4: though you're talking about Uh.
Speaker 5: It was in two thousands.
Speaker 2: He was in college. Yeah, and he scored such down
Speaker 2: he was drafted the same years he's Shootler Gus for Rock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great memory, Fred, great memory.
Speaker 2: Gus for Rock. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So who was the last franchise quarterback in Washington? Was
Speaker 1: the thisman?
Speaker 3: We don't have to give RG three his props, but
Speaker 3: he was only there for a year though I know it,
Speaker 3: but he was there four year?
Speaker 1: Was it Kirk Cousins? Is that another one that Kirk?
Speaker 2: I say Kirk was most different even the relationship was always.
Speaker 1: But not with the fans, with the ownership.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying he always kind of own the outs.
Speaker 4: I would have to say the last true franchise quarterback,
Speaker 4: no matter how vast his talent, is Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 5: I think the last two you can argaly saying either
Speaker 5: r G or Kirk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then before that, I'm just for Jason Campbell.
Speaker 3: Jay was never don franchise quarter That's what he was
Speaker 3: drafted as the first round.
Speaker 2: He was here for three or four years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we gave him so many coordinators. I don't
Speaker 4: think we really gave a chance to be special. Before that,
Speaker 4: it was like this carousel.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I was just thinking about,
Speaker 1: like just what you were talking about, all those guys,
Speaker 1: like there wasn't anybody that kind of came in.
Speaker 2: And yes, it stabilized the franchise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think back in it was like was
Speaker 1: it Thiseman or was it someone after him?
Speaker 4: Well got out the records, so right now is up today?
Speaker 4: Thiseman is the number one quarterback?
Speaker 1: Is that your franchise quarterback? Is there? Is that? Is it? Thisman?
Speaker 1: Is it? I mean, sunny, I think, but obviously that's
Speaker 1: before so I don't know that that's really a shame
Speaker 1: and samon Ba And it's so crazy to think about
Speaker 1: what Jaden does now, you know, like and how the
Speaker 1: off season is different. Like I think about like everyone's
Speaker 1: talking about you need number two out of receiver. I'm like,
Speaker 1: when you got a quarterball.
Speaker 2: Back, it don't matter who's it. Number two.
Speaker 4: He just show listen to me. He showed you I
Speaker 4: can make anybody better. I'm a true force smoteiply. That's
Speaker 4: where you know you got a franchise quarterback. We can
Speaker 4: go through Tom Brady wide receiver group. They was different
Speaker 4: every year.
Speaker 2: Yea, like every year.
Speaker 3: Same way with Pat Mahomes, you haven't he hadn't had
Speaker 3: a show guy since three left. So and the same
Speaker 3: thing we talk about when we talk about defensive backs,
Speaker 3: like you don't need the top two or three corners
Speaker 3: when you got as rushers, when you got a great
Speaker 3: defensive front. So that's what we've been saying all last year.
Speaker 3: And it was great to see that we was able
Speaker 3: to show the world, you know, to show the NFL
Speaker 3: that last year with god like no guys like the kids,
Speaker 3: yeah no, uh, you know all of them, Jameson, all
Speaker 3: those guys who was here, all was capable of being
Speaker 3: that leader at that given day when you gave him
Speaker 3: a chance.
Speaker 1: What's the what's the next stuff for him? You know, Jaden,
Speaker 1: because I think about last year, a lot of quick game,
Speaker 1: a lot of kind of r PO, a lot of
Speaker 1: like kind of deleveraged shows and obviously made big places
Speaker 1: think moments.
Speaker 4: This is just more maturity, like he gonna think about it.
Speaker 4: We know it's more. As we play, the more it
Speaker 4: slows down. If he was debt dangerous from the first taste,
Speaker 4: now that the game that slowed down for him, because
Speaker 4: you can't get no bigger than the NFC Championship. He's
Speaker 4: showing under pressure, I get better underpressure. Things slow down
Speaker 4: for me. He's gonna go back to the lamb and say,
Speaker 4: all right, I need to be throwing this instead of
Speaker 4: this like he's just gonna correct. He gonna he's gonna
Speaker 4: self correct himself, and I think this would gonna make
Speaker 4: him even more dangerous. I can look for him to
Speaker 4: run less. I hate to say that his legs always
Speaker 4: be a whipping, but I look for him to run
Speaker 4: less and let his legs dictate what the defense calls
Speaker 4: so he can use his arm to beat them.
Speaker 2: I think consistency is key.
Speaker 3: I think at any position in our game, if he
Speaker 3: can come back, because you know, it's highly unlikely that
Speaker 3: things are gonna pan out the way this.
Speaker 2: Year the way he did last year. Yeah, but too
Speaker 2: many cups.
Speaker 3: But as a player, you know, all you want to
Speaker 3: do is be the person you were or better.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you see what I'm saying. You want to see
Speaker 5: his response.
Speaker 3: You want to see him be able to navigate the
Speaker 3: offense the way he did last year, but now at
Speaker 3: a different level because now this year too, Now he's
Speaker 3: a little more wise, So he's a little more better
Speaker 3: with things.
Speaker 5: He's he's gonna you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So if he was that sharp out the gate, then
Speaker 3: all you want to do is see him be as
Speaker 3: sharp and then even sharper at times when they take
Speaker 3: when they're giving us something, Oh, it ain't gonna be
Speaker 3: no love.
Speaker 5: And now you're gonna see more of the I got
Speaker 5: this guy.
Speaker 2: One on one.
Speaker 3: Let me go to him, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: taking advantage of some of the things that he probably
Speaker 3: you know, held back from him because he wanted to
Speaker 3: go through the you know, the Florida and that.
Speaker 4: We got them some more weapons. So more weapons makes
Speaker 4: your job more easier. Like we got guys that that's good.
Speaker 4: And yet with Deebo Sam's we got teary that's in
Speaker 4: his bag. Like we got guys that's gonna land him
Speaker 4: in Tumsa is the one we need to talk about.
Speaker 4: He's gonna give him what he really needs, and it's time,
Speaker 4: like time for deep plays to develop down the field,
Speaker 4: time to run them with what I feel like we
Speaker 4: should have ran more of that. I think we are
Speaker 4: gonna run more of It's like the intermediate fifteen yard
Speaker 4: dig routes.
Speaker 2: They take time to do that. You gotta have a line,
Speaker 2: a line of blocking say that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I look for us to take that part
Speaker 4: of the field more than we did because to me,
Speaker 4: we was like, either throw it quick, are we gonna
Speaker 4: throw it down the field? Like to me, we didn't
Speaker 4: have that. Like that's what made get hard for us
Speaker 4: to stop the greatest show on turf when we had
Speaker 4: to play.
Speaker 3: The Rams had average drifts, they had the end, they
Speaker 3: had those twelve and fifteen and curls and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that means they gonna average more than ten
Speaker 4: year olds to catch because five of my seven catches
Speaker 4: are fifteen yard dig rap.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think you bring up a lot of
Speaker 1: good stuff there. So Tanny're talking about consistency and developing
Speaker 1: and I think one of the things that again we
Speaker 1: expect him to do that on his owner because he's
Speaker 1: a special guy. But I also love what this the
Speaker 1: staff's done, right, Adam Dan, what they've done. They've done
Speaker 1: a really good job of kind of saying, hey, like
Speaker 1: we've got the left tackle, we've got debo. And so
Speaker 1: I think, now, like with these pieces, like you already
Speaker 1: hit it there a little bit, Fred, but like what's
Speaker 1: the like what like how does the offense look different?
Speaker 1: And does this help Jayden kind of take that next step?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think so. I think the answers are
Speaker 1: quivocally yes. But I want to ask you.
Speaker 5: Guys, yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, because you got to look at
Speaker 3: how the league is gonna try to change and try
Speaker 3: to say, Okay, let's see if he's that guy, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't heard it, but I don't think that.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that. I just feel like every year
Speaker 3: is going to be that test. You want to get
Speaker 3: a team that's going to say, all right, we're gonna
Speaker 3: sit back now again. We're gonna let them do something
Speaker 3: more than what we allowed him to do last year.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna rush them. Last year he didn't run
Speaker 3: as much he ran when he had to he ran
Speaker 3: and got in trouble. But when you build around him,
Speaker 3: like how we brought in Tunsu and brought in these
Speaker 3: other extra bodies, that's going to probably be depth pieces
Speaker 3: for us in our office. In line, we have to
Speaker 3: establish a better run game. We have to have a
Speaker 3: sustainable run game from week one to seventeen. I feel
Speaker 3: that the run game is gonna be key because now
Speaker 3: that's gonna allow us to always dictate what we're gonna
Speaker 3: get out there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: If we allow the defenses.
Speaker 3: To say, well, they ain't running, well we're gonna sit back,
Speaker 3: then it's always gonna be tougher because I don't care
Speaker 3: who you are. As a passer, when gods are in
Speaker 3: your lane, it's tough to throw the ball to them.
Speaker 2: You don't have the weapons, so it's gonna be checked
Speaker 2: down and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3: So I just feel like that's the part of the
Speaker 3: game that I hope offensively.
Speaker 5: That we don't have to sit here and still be
Speaker 5: trying to you know.
Speaker 3: Correct like, oh man, we gotta run better, we gotta
Speaker 3: run back, we gotta you know, we gotta you know,
Speaker 3: a run block better.
Speaker 5: And that's what I want to see from us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also I think like when you look at
Speaker 1: the teams that gave the Commanders a hard time last year,
Speaker 1: like Pittsburgh Philly teams that were able to play man coverage,
Speaker 1: press up and win with four.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like now obviously with the addition of Laramie Tunshel's like
Speaker 1: you lose the like that becomes less effective because you've
Speaker 1: moved Brandon Coleman over. Yeah, You've got like a really
Speaker 1: solid corps of guys. And so again like now like
Speaker 1: Terry can take a little bit more time to win
Speaker 1: versus man covers, Right, So I think that that's something again,
Speaker 1: like we this is what I've always I appreciated about
Speaker 1: this offseason. I feel like they're making smart decisions about
Speaker 1: issues that they had last year and finding pieces to
Speaker 1: get it done. Because like d Bow, again it's not
Speaker 1: like a great man piece, but he elevates your base offense. Right, So,
Speaker 1: like they all kind of fit into these roles and
Speaker 1: if the perfect vision happens, yes, then the offense around
Speaker 1: Jayden supports Jaden's development, is around it.
Speaker 4: Like I had the chance last week, you can go
Speaker 4: to the get Lab podcast, I interviewed Adam Peters it
Speaker 4: was fun.
Speaker 2: I can I really yeahs yeah, I got a chance
Speaker 2: to pick his brain. Y'all didn't know it.
Speaker 4: He went to junior college to he a junior college
Speaker 4: guys that we got to really like chopping up.
Speaker 2: And I learned his.
Speaker 4: Approach of how he looks you by yourself, just me
Speaker 4: by myself one o one.
Speaker 2: You know, I went straight up. I went to my CNN.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's donn get louder.
Speaker 4: We have to change and I and I like his
Speaker 4: approach and in some things, he said.
Speaker 5: What is something that stood out to you from him
Speaker 5: from when.
Speaker 4: He started free agency this year? What was made it
Speaker 4: different from last year? And he said, like last year
Speaker 4: it felt like I had more free agent options than
Speaker 4: I had this So that's why I think he went
Speaker 4: with the approach of since the free agency is not packed,
Speaker 4: I'm going to trade route Like our biggest two guys,
Speaker 4: Larry mc thompson Deebo was from trades, not free agents.
Speaker 2: So I think he's always looking for another way to
Speaker 2: get things done.
Speaker 4: He won't take no for an answer, and that's what
Speaker 4: I like about how he gets things done. And I
Speaker 4: actually the ingredients of a how what he does he
Speaker 4: consider a commander but in the love of the game,
Speaker 4: like he liked people that love to play football.
Speaker 5: How is it or I can't I'm not sure if
Speaker 5: I want to use that word.
Speaker 3: But being that we was here for a while, he
Speaker 3: was Redskins, it was core Redskins. All of us had
Speaker 3: a chance to play for the Redskins. Put that slash
Speaker 3: on the now it's commanders, and.
Speaker 5: You feel like it's the same.
Speaker 3: You know, you have to be wired the same, you know,
Speaker 3: But when you look at now the guys were bringing in,
Speaker 3: does it make you feel like with damn?
Speaker 2: Was I was our core? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Because I'm looking and I'm like, I feel like I.
Speaker 5: Can play with any coach.
Speaker 3: I can play for any coach because I'm very coachorable
Speaker 3: and I don't want to just say that I heard that.
Speaker 5: But when I look at the guys they bringing I'm like, well.
Speaker 3: Damn, I wish I was in this time being able
Speaker 3: to be judge and say a guy, I went on
Speaker 3: this squad because.
Speaker 2: We had something that I think unique to the guys.
Speaker 4: They like simply just loving to play the game and
Speaker 4: available like this is what they like they like.
Speaker 2: Availability all us. We didn't miss games.
Speaker 4: We didn't miss games, and we was never the the
Speaker 4: reason why not.
Speaker 2: And I think this is a good thing.
Speaker 1: And I'm not speaking for myself here, but in commenting
Speaker 1: on your careers, you guys are both really good players,
Speaker 1: and so what I will say is they like tough players,
Speaker 1: smart players, competitive players, but they actually like good players,
Speaker 1: you know. So I do think it would fit in
Speaker 1: really really well.
Speaker 2: Basically you Bates.
Speaker 1: So you want to make in some capacity, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have to talk.
Speaker 2: You need them shoes, you want got on.
Speaker 1: Having on John Bates. So let's I mean, let's talk
Speaker 1: about guys. One guy they brought in the trade, and
Speaker 1: that's Deebo Samuel and then the other guy that I
Speaker 1: think is interesting and maybe I like to get your
Speaker 1: take on this, Tanda, is the Michael Gallup. Right. So
Speaker 1: I think we are very clear about what Deebo is
Speaker 1: going to do in the offense, at least I feel
Speaker 1: very and obviously that can change, but you know, kind
Speaker 1: of this screen quick game, kind of maximizing guy underneath it's.
Speaker 2: A physical I'm going to break.
Speaker 4: I'm a ben DB's to my wheel, Like, think about this,
Speaker 4: think about it. As a dB taking on Deebo Samuel's
Speaker 4: nine ten plays, then got to take on the running back,
Speaker 4: then got to take on the tight end.
Speaker 1: You physical, It's a lot. So I think we all
Speaker 1: feel very clear about his role. You know. I think
Speaker 1: you're just gonna maximize what this offense wants to be
Speaker 1: at its base level. Yeah, quick game screens, and then
Speaker 1: he can still kind of win down the field, which
Speaker 1: is awesome. Creat mismatches from the backfield. We did a
Speaker 1: breakdown on that on the Command Center. Makes you check
Speaker 1: it out. The Michael Gallup one, to me is a
Speaker 1: little bit interesting because he hasn't played football for a year.
Speaker 4: But guess what I always tell people, Man, if I
Speaker 4: was if I was running the NFL, I would make
Speaker 4: NFL players have a mandatory year off every six years,
Speaker 4: really because I just think your body and your mind
Speaker 4: needs to heal man year out the year, out the year.
Speaker 4: Like the only thing that saves some of us is
Speaker 4: I know y'all don't want to hear this. We do
Speaker 4: have that sieves and injury injury. It forces us to
Speaker 4: sit out a year. The hip you game four years,
Speaker 4: all right, So and his honger would not be denied
Speaker 4: you know how it is when we miss a year
Speaker 4: of football, you want to get back out there. My
Speaker 4: perfect cump to him. I think he gonna bring everything
Speaker 4: that Noah Brown brought yeas year. I think I think
Speaker 4: it's a comp there.
Speaker 2: And what's great about it You got Noah back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. So we got two of the
Speaker 2: so well.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying he's gonna make the team, but
Speaker 1: I think back to him in like two thousand and
Speaker 1: twenty two when he was that dude eleven hundred yard
Speaker 1: receiving and like everyone's like, we're looking for a number two,
Speaker 1: we're looking for a number two, and that guy. If
Speaker 1: you can get that guy on this team, like he
Speaker 1: can win versus man coverage, you can run every route,
Speaker 1: he can win contested catch situations. He tracks the field
Speaker 1: like he was borderlining about to make a ton of money,
Speaker 1: and obviously the injury gets kind of sidetracks whole thing.
Speaker 1: But to me, you're bringing him in at a very low,
Speaker 1: very favorable contract number, and if you get that kind
Speaker 1: of race, so that's what I look like. If you
Speaker 1: get he's a he's a true a true too, And
Speaker 1: we haven't had a guy like and I like Noah,
Speaker 1: I like Oz, but this guy has the ability to
Speaker 1: elevate and win it away. If you get that version.
Speaker 3: Of Yeah, if you get that version of I think
Speaker 3: also too, if you look at him right now, I
Speaker 3: think we have a one A and a one B
Speaker 3: wherever you want to put Terry and your boy Debo, wherever.
Speaker 5: You want to slot them.
Speaker 3: To me, both of them are are dogs amongst dogs.
Speaker 3: They you got one rock rolling, you got a boxer,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, or however you want to
Speaker 3: you know you want to phrase.
Speaker 2: It, and then you got a two.
Speaker 5: I like no I like nor Brown as a true too.
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of people want to look at
Speaker 3: If you watch nor play last year, I watched him
Speaker 3: play man always got got open. Even when he wasn't open,
Speaker 3: he was getting the penalty, somebody was holding him doing
Speaker 3: something like. He made things happen when the ball came
Speaker 3: his way. He made plays. We already know the hell
Speaker 3: Nor you name it. Nor Brown to me is a
Speaker 3: solid true too.
Speaker 5: If Gallup could.
Speaker 3: Be anywhere near where he was when he left left Dallas,
Speaker 3: bro we we we're packed. You know it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a fight for to see who's going to be in
Speaker 3: that room because you have a lot of potential. I
Speaker 3: guys that go out there who can win, winning man
Speaker 3: and man, winning zone this period, win and you.
Speaker 1: Get the basketball body types, right, You get like, you know,
Speaker 1: you're kind of bigger, more physical guy in Debo. You
Speaker 1: get your.
Speaker 5: True twitchy guy.
Speaker 3: You got a big guy guy that just gonna a
Speaker 3: damn bows or bulldozer guy. And Deebo, I don't know
Speaker 3: where you want to put him at. That dude just feisty.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, He's gonna.
Speaker 2: Find a way football play.
Speaker 3: He's a guy that you know how we talk about
Speaker 3: guys taking advantage of going up top where you can
Speaker 3: you know how, you have that Tyreek effect where you
Speaker 3: can be we got eighty yards ago and you give
Speaker 3: him something, it's gone, He get you eighty. I saw
Speaker 3: Debo turn many plays within two to five yards into
Speaker 3: sixty and seventy yard plays because of his you know,
Speaker 3: I guess you can say effort, extra effort when catility
Speaker 3: never never going to go down.
Speaker 5: So you just have so many different weapons man.
Speaker 3: And I just love the way that they went out
Speaker 3: there and say, Okay, we're gonna bring this guy back
Speaker 3: because he showed us that he was valuable for us
Speaker 3: last year the receiver position in North Brown. We're gonna
Speaker 3: go get a gallop that can stretch the field when
Speaker 3: we got him on the field. If he makes his squad,
Speaker 3: which I believe he will, he's to be one of
Speaker 3: those guys like you have so many guys that's gonna
Speaker 3: make sure that the defense can't sit there and say
Speaker 3: I'm an play one side.
Speaker 4: Well, here's a thing I love about Debo. He's an
Speaker 4: automatic defensive check. When he comes in, we have to alert.
Speaker 4: We don't know where he gonna line up at all, right,
Speaker 4: he reminds me. Now he don't have the speed of
Speaker 4: this guy, but the way he's utilized. Percy Hobby one
Speaker 4: of my favorite players all time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Person, When Person came in the game, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if your x Z.
Speaker 4: I don't even put him at tail back, and I
Speaker 4: don't know where this guy's going.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 3: He was like Bush on steroids, Like he was a
Speaker 3: different kind of just.
Speaker 4: A different bowl of athlete. Like, just get me the ball.
Speaker 4: I don't care how y'all get me to.
Speaker 2: This is a question I asked, y'all, do you think now.
Speaker 3: Terry gets the respect of being that true number one,
Speaker 3: they're gonna say, you know what, We're gonna cloud him
Speaker 3: and let everybody else try to beat us.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the thing you just saluted to.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: If these guys play the way that they have plenty
Speaker 1: you can't do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't with them.
Speaker 1: We didn't Eve talk about Zach like this offense. If again,
Speaker 1: this is all projection, right, projecting like you're getting a
Speaker 1: good version of Gallop, You're getting a good getting a
Speaker 1: healthy version of Noah, because as much as we like Noah,
Speaker 1: he hasn't been healthy the last couple years of the spreer.
Speaker 1: But the best version of Debo like it's it's a
Speaker 1: dynamic playmaking group.
Speaker 3: See only asked the question because like we talk about
Speaker 3: different positions at the receiver position, a lot of folks
Speaker 3: just think you played wide receive.
Speaker 5: It's an X, there's a Z, there's a slot. You
Speaker 5: know you might name him why or.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: I remember the Shanahan era when I had done just
Speaker 3: they just came in two thousand and ten. I had
Speaker 3: a thousand some yards at at two teams. Remember I
Speaker 3: was heavy as all out doors and I remember when
Speaker 3: they signed me back. Remember it was twenty eleven when
Speaker 3: we had the little it was a lockout.
Speaker 2: Of all my yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: They signed me back and immediately Shanahan was like, that year,
Speaker 3: I'm move you the X because we have we had
Speaker 3: we had no No, we had Rashee card Well and
Speaker 3: we had my man, Jabar Gaffney. Both of those guys
Speaker 3: are capable of being number ones if you need them
Speaker 3: to be. So he were like, Tann, you did a
Speaker 3: lot at Z. You're gonna always go at Gator and
Speaker 3: be the slot guy. But I'm gonna put your X,
Speaker 3: and I swear. I remember having this meeting with Shannon
Speaker 3: han right before I broke my hand that year and
Speaker 3: he brought me off.
Speaker 5: He say, I'm changing you back to I'm changing you
Speaker 5: back to.
Speaker 3: Z today because I just feel like you're not getting
Speaker 3: open the X. I said, you turn the film on.
Speaker 3: They got a cloud over me. That's what the exposition does.
Speaker 3: You don't have that other guy there where you can't
Speaker 3: so at Z you double me the tight end.
Speaker 5: Or somebody else over there, and ex is just me
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 3: So he was like, yeah, I'm not getting the same
Speaker 3: production that I got from you in the passing game.
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, because it's they giving me a shell.
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I know, but I'm gonna change you
Speaker 3: to Z today. And the day he changed me at
Speaker 3: Z and we went to Carolina, I broke my hand.
Speaker 3: But I was asking that question because of that, Like,
Speaker 3: you have a guy in Terry. We saw he line
Speaker 3: up on the left a lot, and then when people
Speaker 3: start noticing it, we start switching them. Now you're bringing
Speaker 3: these other guys you as a defense. You're gonna pick
Speaker 3: one guy that we must stop. We must stop, because
Speaker 3: that's how I always felt. It was always say all right,
Speaker 3: we're gonna shut eighty nine down. Somebody else beat us.
Speaker 3: So I'm wondering, does Terry get that respect knowing that
Speaker 3: he earns it. I mean, he went out there and
Speaker 3: showed you every year he's put up the numbers.
Speaker 2: Is he the guy?
Speaker 5: Or are you saying.
Speaker 3: That I'm more concerned with what Debo gonna do or
Speaker 3: a guy like Gallup.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You gotta play it how we call it. You gotta
Speaker 4: play it. You gotta play the truth. You gotta play
Speaker 4: the truth. Now if you want to have options, this
Speaker 4: is what you'll do. When it comes to those two,
Speaker 4: you would say, I'm gonna take my number one corner
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna put him.
Speaker 2: On debo by hisself, by itself.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the number two corner and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: double t give him help, You give him help, AND's
Speaker 4: gotta be somebody, somebody else gotta beat me, somebody else
Speaker 4: gotta be basically, yeah, So this is what they're gonna
Speaker 4: do now. I don't think Philly gonna help that option
Speaker 4: this year because big place slave is gone.
Speaker 2: Right now, We're going to see whether they can get
Speaker 2: before up front.
Speaker 4: Hey, every team gets better, a little worse in the
Speaker 4: all season. I say Philadelphia for the most part got
Speaker 4: just a tiny bit worse.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that talented.
Speaker 2: They're super talented.
Speaker 4: And I'm worried about them in the draft, like I always.
Speaker 2: Worry about them in the draft because they have drafted
Speaker 2: so will.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's got to run out man's run. It's
Speaker 3: like them in the Ravens for some reason. Boy, they
Speaker 3: don't Well, I knew some mister truth. He told him
Speaker 3: on my kids get back, I'm gonna leave you with
Speaker 3: my my jacks.
Speaker 1: That is wild but he helps out though.
Speaker 4: No, he's still like they like this shows you a
Speaker 4: franchise that understands.
Speaker 2: The franchise is on the strong as the people. They
Speaker 2: understand that because every every year.
Speaker 1: I like, because where we sit when we watch the
Speaker 1: comb DROs is right in front of the Ravens box
Speaker 1: and I see he's like, you gotta stop watch out
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what that dude retired like five years ago,
Speaker 1: but he is.
Speaker 5: Still getting them a.
Speaker 4: Check right quick to come hip over, here's some free
Speaker 4: cray up cakes for life.
Speaker 1: So we talked a lot about the offense, and like, again,
Speaker 1: I think we all feel pretty good about it. I
Speaker 1: think defensively, we feel good about the improvement's very similar.
Speaker 1: And I think that leads us nicely into the draft
Speaker 1: and like kind of what our expectations are for the
Speaker 1: next opportunity for the team to start kind of building.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know, like is there I really
Speaker 1: feel like Adams put us at a spot, put the
Speaker 1: organization a spot to like pick the best player available.
Speaker 1: What does that look like?
Speaker 3: I was gonna say no, because I mean I feel
Speaker 3: like we all have that in mind that the best
Speaker 3: we in the situation right now that we haven't been
Speaker 3: in a long time where you can honestly go in
Speaker 3: the draft and say, Okay, whatever is sitting around, you know,
Speaker 3: that's what we're going to go out to. The best
Speaker 3: player that's available at that moment, or its just meat talking.
Speaker 3: Do you see them saying, you know what, it's a
Speaker 3: guy too that I can go get here, and I
Speaker 3: really have more picks for so let me trade back.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you asked that, because when I do,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like working on my big board, which
Speaker 1: is like you're one to three hundred type of that.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do three hundred guys, but you know
Speaker 1: you're one down right, Yeah. And obviously those kind of
Speaker 1: fall into tiers, which is your horizontal board. Like Tier
Speaker 1: one is like these five players and go down. And
Speaker 1: so when I got I was kind of like messing
Speaker 1: with it the other day, I was like, actually the
Speaker 1: difference between pick twenty nine and pick thirty five different.
Speaker 1: It's no difference because you can get ballers there. And
Speaker 1: so again, like obviously like just to kind of work
Speaker 1: through some draft kind of gymnastics, if there's a dude
Speaker 1: at twenty nine, then you have in a tier above. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: like a little bit better. Like you know, Mike Green
Speaker 1: is the guy you talked about today, Like I personally
Speaker 1: haven't been a higher tier. Yeah, and I don't know
Speaker 1: any about the anything about the office. James Pears, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a higher tier than me. So for me, if
Speaker 1: he's there at twenty nine, I'm gonna probably pull the trigger.
Speaker 1: If he's gone, it's James Pears Junior, Landon Jackson.
Speaker 4: I'm taking. I'm taking the thing I'm taking. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: running up.
Speaker 2: They have James, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. But for me, I'm saying that's
Speaker 1: kind of they're all kind of the same like Nick
Speaker 1: scrdon Landon Jackson. They're all kind of in the same bucket.
Speaker 1: So if I want an edge, I can trade back
Speaker 1: five spots, ten spots and be happy. And then I think,
Speaker 1: in a year where we've given a lot of draft
Speaker 1: capital for what I mean, Tunsul and Deebo Samuel, we
Speaker 1: only got five picks, if we can get two picks
Speaker 1: back another pick here and there, like another bite at
Speaker 1: the app, I think that would be the way to go.
Speaker 3: And I see this, I see this, you know, ap
Speaker 3: them seem like there are those type of guys when
Speaker 3: it comes to just being strategic, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: why pull the trigger if I if I know I
Speaker 3: could get them ten slots, you know, and I can
Speaker 3: get more and get more.
Speaker 4: For that, ask myself scenarios because every draft it's always scenarios.
Speaker 4: All right, we do this every year. It's a run
Speaker 4: on quarterbacks, no matter how weak the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Draft is this year, I don't think there's well.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a scenario at twenty nine, the
Speaker 4: fault rings, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Jackson Dark, it's still there. Trade out of it
Speaker 2: new on the Saints, won't I mean, I mean want
Speaker 2: a draft? Yeah, yeah, I think you gotta take that.
Speaker 2: I think you gotta take it.
Speaker 1: I don't think, I don't think. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a question if if there's a quarterback there and someone's
Speaker 1: trying to get for a quarterback, I'm gonna say give
Speaker 1: me what you give me everything you got, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna move back wherever I was talking to you, I
Speaker 1: was talking to Mike Renner for he used to do
Speaker 1: the PFF stuff. He now does the show with Kyle
Speaker 1: Long on whatever CBS, and he was like, dude, yeah,
Speaker 1: like second round and I look at the second and
Speaker 1: third round I'm like, dude, I want picks there because
Speaker 1: there's good value there, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of risk associated with that, but.
Speaker 2: I'm like it's risky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we just like we just talked about the
Speaker 1: manual formes. Like Caroline just text me. She's just like Logan.
Speaker 1: You know, Jane Daniels was the tenth player on your
Speaker 1: board last year. Right, But for me, they're all in
Speaker 1: the same tier, those ten players, so like they're all
Speaker 1: kind of the same. But I think this is like
Speaker 1: this is a good talking for here, right, And quarterbacks
Speaker 1: like you're saying, friend, all always go a little bit higher.
Speaker 4: Right, Like it's no value you could put on the court. Right,
Speaker 4: Like I'm sorry, Like I have watched it doing my draft.
Speaker 4: I watched it doing draft before me, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: it's two positions that shape the dray up every year
Speaker 4: because it's just a run on them in this offensive
Speaker 4: tackle and this quarterback, Like they don't they have to be.
Speaker 2: A little good to climb up to go.
Speaker 4: Because it's it's like it's so much demand for them,
Speaker 4: it's so much demand.
Speaker 5: Because they just so in the same way as edge
Speaker 5: rushers too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they they will push the draft three, they'll
Speaker 4: push your draft value down because of their positional work.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about for the commanders at twenty nine
Speaker 1: if they do stick and pick. Obviously, we just talked
Speaker 1: about how we think if they can. And again, you
Speaker 1: never know. You need two people to be involved in this, right,
Speaker 1: You need someone to want to train up at twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Are their positions we don't have to do names? Are
Speaker 1: their positions that you say we should be thinking about
Speaker 1: this position at twenty nine.
Speaker 4: I can't do positions because I just I don't think
Speaker 4: that's how he thinks.
Speaker 1: So so what I'm saying so like this is what
Speaker 1: i'd say. Yes, I think you're right, he's thinking best
Speaker 1: player available. But when I look at this twenty nine pick,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, there's gonna be a lot of edge rushers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's probably gonna be one corner, maybe one safety.
Speaker 2: You don't think Reveil will be there, So I think
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be there, right, And so that's why
Speaker 1: I say one corner, right, there's but if he's gone
Speaker 1: ahead of time, I'm not going to pick a corner,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So then there's probably four
Speaker 1: edge rushers, there's maybe one offensive lineman, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it's like we're getting in like a
Speaker 1: little bit. There's one linebacker, John Campbell, Like yeah, there's
Speaker 1: maybe one running back of Martin Hampton, who i'd probably
Speaker 1: wait to take a running back away, Like yeah, Nick
Speaker 1: Gordon Gordon, yeah, I like him a lot. But again
Speaker 1: I think if I'm taking an edge and I have
Speaker 1: this and this is important, I have the same grade
Speaker 1: on all those guys. Yeah, I'm gonna trade back because
Speaker 1: they're all the same, Like they're this in the same bucket.
Speaker 1: So like Nick Gordon Land and Jackson Donovan is a
Speaker 1: roku the gif from Boston College, like the putting on
Speaker 1: this a lot, dude and it and talk about a
Speaker 1: guy that's a Dan Quinn type of guy.
Speaker 2: What about Morrison?
Speaker 1: Benjamin Morrison, so the hip thing, he's the corner from Notre.
Speaker 2: Dame like him and Ravelo got the injury.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but the ACL I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: more comfortable with withvon ravel from East Carolina obviously has
Speaker 1: an ACL injury. A little bit more comfortable that because
Speaker 1: you know the timetable, right, Yeah, Like when you get
Speaker 1: a dB who's got multiple hip surgeries, I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit like or even even Josh Simmons, the tackle from
Speaker 1: Ohio State, who I love. I think he could be
Speaker 1: there like Taurres Potello. Like that's a weird rehab for me.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not super comfortable with it.
Speaker 3: So is because I know y'all dive in a little
Speaker 3: deeper than I ever do when it comes to the draft.
Speaker 3: Save instance, we and that we had that twenty ninth pick,
Speaker 3: and we know how strong or not so strong this
Speaker 3: running back class is.
Speaker 5: But the running back that is very strong, we know
Speaker 5: that much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But the running back that we all kind of
Speaker 3: like tray Bon, He's sitting there available between nine people
Speaker 3: got to come to say he might be a second
Speaker 3: round pick, but you like, man, I don't know.
Speaker 2: He got a lot of first round grade, a lot
Speaker 2: of first round grade.
Speaker 1: So this is what I said. This is where like,
Speaker 1: this is where trusting your board and trusting your scouts
Speaker 1: is important. Right. So I think back to Detroit obviously
Speaker 1: when they drafted a linebacker Campbell. Campbell, who is that's
Speaker 1: a low position of value contract and then obviously running
Speaker 1: back Jumier Gibbs both in the first round, right, and
Speaker 1: then they drafted a safety in the first and the second.
Speaker 1: So those are all kind of low value picks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I think what I what you take from that
Speaker 1: is if your grade, if your bucket. Let's say Henderson
Speaker 1: is a third tier player and at twenty nine there
Speaker 1: shouldn't be that many third tier players left, and you
Speaker 1: trust that process, take them, you get it like that,
Speaker 1: But that's where you go back to the homework you
Speaker 1: did before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and is it icing on the cake because I
Speaker 4: think for Detroit it was the cake for backs.
Speaker 1: But also the way they described him I thought was important.
Speaker 1: He was a playmaking weapon and we saw that in
Speaker 1: the Playoffam.
Speaker 2: But that's my thing.
Speaker 3: When you look at Henderson and you look at the
Speaker 3: offense that we have right now, that's a ton of that.
Speaker 5: You say, do I wait when I have it right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could come in and impact right now. I
Speaker 2: think when they looked at you, they were.
Speaker 4: Like, ain't no nothing, it's not another one.
Speaker 2: Then CO snatch him up.
Speaker 5: That dude especial.
Speaker 4: And I think in a draft it's loaded with running
Speaker 4: backs that makes me more comfortable to say I can
Speaker 4: get one later.
Speaker 2: And just to give.
Speaker 1: And for fans, I think people hold in because it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I already heard about Henderson. I've only heard about Henderson,
Speaker 1: like you've got C. J. Harvey from Rock.
Speaker 5: Henderson is just my favorite.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying like in terms of similar skill set,
Speaker 1: like you know he's from Florida, right, and then you
Speaker 1: got Basiltooting from Virginia Tech. He ran the four three.
Speaker 2: Right now in your neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Shan Smith from s m U Man. He's a converted
Speaker 1: wide receiver like with Strake gasoline.
Speaker 2: He can tell he can fly.
Speaker 1: So I look at those guys and I'm like, maybe
Speaker 1: the difference between Henderson and those guys is in this
Speaker 1: fight is this minister, And so why would I reach
Speaker 1: on a guy not reach?
Speaker 4: But why would I spend so much draft capital.
Speaker 3: Basically saying that you don't really have to because it's
Speaker 3: the other guys that I don't get this guy around.
Speaker 5: I want to get him at it's two or three
Speaker 5: more games.
Speaker 1: And I think that's one thing that fans have a
Speaker 1: hard time with is they hear the same names over
Speaker 1: and over and over again and it's like, oh, we
Speaker 1: didn't get hitters and this is a terrible draft. It's like, well, shoot,
Speaker 1: I actually like player X better than that game. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, And it's just trust trust
Speaker 1: the organization that they've done more homework than you have
Speaker 1: and you have and they know.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: I was talking to one of the scouts for a
Speaker 1: different team and he was like, how many guys you
Speaker 1: think I watched? And I was like, he's the he's
Speaker 1: the head of college GUYT. I was like you personally,
Speaker 1: He was like, I watched five hundred guys. I write reports,
Speaker 1: write reports on five hundred guys.
Speaker 5: Love life. His wife mad at him.
Speaker 1: Well do I mean that's when you That's like, that's why,
Speaker 1: that's the job. Job.
Speaker 4: His time of a year, Like I was telling he
Speaker 4: was like, how did how is this year different from lansty?
Speaker 2: He was like, last year, I have a store for scratch.
Speaker 2: I had never did it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this year, I have my routine and I have
Speaker 4: hired the guys around me.
Speaker 2: That makes my job.
Speaker 4: I got the guys that got to study five hundred
Speaker 4: guys that had to get me the report. Now I
Speaker 4: got to go back and restudy the guy myself like what.
Speaker 2: God fit, what we need and this to keep and
Speaker 2: what value do we get?
Speaker 4: And I think that's why that Cogna go in with
Speaker 4: Burst at twenty nine.
Speaker 2: We go in somewhere around thirty nine.
Speaker 1: And so you did your interview with Adam and I
Speaker 1: did an interview with Dan. And one of the things
Speaker 1: that I took out of the interview that I thought
Speaker 1: was so awesome was like the thing that Adam does
Speaker 1: such a good job of is like this is we
Speaker 1: tell Adam what we want and what we need, and
Speaker 1: he says, let's look at the board and where's the
Speaker 1: value in the draft? So you're talking about getting value
Speaker 1: and I think like having a guy that's full time
Speaker 1: job is to understand that it's so incredibly important, and.
Speaker 4: That's how you feel rooms by best player available, Like
Speaker 4: this is how I got birth into this league.
Speaker 2: I was drafted best player vailable. They didn't need me.
Speaker 4: They had three yellow jackets in the room. They were like, no,
Speaker 4: he's the highest rated person on the draft.
Speaker 2: Int.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't think he was going second round. I
Speaker 5: just knew he was the first round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was you out, you know, No, he just
Speaker 2: he just he just.
Speaker 3: Showed me why Fred has always been Fred?
Speaker 2: He going the second round.
Speaker 3: I just ran loose on campus, told me about twenty
Speaker 3: I told you I was very impressive for it when
Speaker 3: I when I met Fred and went home, and then
Speaker 3: I watched him play that year because now you know,
Speaker 3: when you got to put a person's game with their
Speaker 3: face in their mouth, and he talked so much shit
Speaker 3: that weekend, I was like, well, I gotta watch this dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And even when I didn't watch him, his name was
Speaker 3: mentioned Fred Smooth. I say, this guy dog gonnadude really
Speaker 3: good ball. So especially as a corner. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I didn't see him going second round. But
Speaker 3: you was like the first pick in the second round.
Speaker 2: You no, I was thirty five. Drew Brees with thirty four.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, I know you.
Speaker 4: You got real like the second round consistent freeze me
Speaker 4: chads like I'm the second round.
Speaker 2: Our whole second round was scrapball.
Speaker 3: We already told you to two thousand and one classes
Speaker 3: up there.
Speaker 4: You know when I showed you that we were the
Speaker 4: number four best draft class to just go through.
Speaker 1: If you got free time today, go check it out.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, I got.
Speaker 2: Them gases in two thousand and one.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, so obviously we feel really good about where
Speaker 1: the team's at. You pick the best player, Availabow. We're
Speaker 1: excited to see what they do, and I'm trusting that
Speaker 1: Adam Peters just done more homework than me, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna fight really good football players.
Speaker 2: I think I just don't think we're gonna make a
Speaker 2: first round pick in my head.
Speaker 1: In my head, I think you need someone to trade
Speaker 1: up with you. But I think, like I would agree,
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 5: Want to be at the same bar that they have
Speaker 5: you had with the mic and.
Speaker 2: The third.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be there when you we was
Speaker 3: gonna trade basket.
Speaker 2: Out of mind, all right.
Speaker 1: So that's gonna lead us to our next segment, which
Speaker 1: is risk It for the Brisket, and we're doing an
Speaker 1: NFC East breakdown the brisket out of the biscuit the biscuit,
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 2: Brisket, Yeah, brisky Land it sounds like.
Speaker 1: And then that's presented by Marsh mclenn agency. You're a
Speaker 1: partner in risk and People's strategies. Let's start with the
Speaker 1: New York Giants, which feels kind of like a dumpster
Speaker 1: fire because they brought in Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: which is which is fine? I like love and then
Speaker 1: who do you fear of those two?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Who do you fear more?
Speaker 2: Hey, I hate to say this.
Speaker 5: I don't get into all that because I'm gonna stop
Speaker 5: it right here.
Speaker 3: Because Bregna, he's gonna put something out there in the air,
Speaker 3: and then we're gonna be back here talking be like
Speaker 3: see bre you know, talking to men, you know, they're
Speaker 3: politicians and way.
Speaker 2: James.
Speaker 4: If I'm a wire receive in the league and I
Speaker 4: get a call and they're like, yeah, man, we just
Speaker 4: signed James.
Speaker 1: Thank God.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm going to have a year. What do
Speaker 2: you do? He will he will give you a chance
Speaker 2: to become a hero. Russell Judy. Last year, Julie had
Speaker 2: did nothing. Judy, bow the hell out. Julie had did nothing.
Speaker 2: Jamie's like this, they ain't gonna get picked. We're gonna
Speaker 2: get it. We're gonna.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: And it'll make me play more defensively.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy with that too. I've heard nothing
Speaker 1: but great things about him, Like he's a great teammate
Speaker 1: and he's like all the crazy speeches and something. But
Speaker 1: I heard guys love playing man. So for me, like,
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 3: Feel like whoever did his lasi they need to go
Speaker 3: get him his money back because he still can't see.
Speaker 3: But he's still throwing to the other heard that I
Speaker 3: just don't throw pick sixes in the next week through
Speaker 3: every time I look up chasing somebody, I like, first
Speaker 3: of all, if I'm gonna be in a dumpster file,
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 4: To have a little fun. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: he gonna bring that, like like.
Speaker 2: Russell has already started them. She Mannikins.
Speaker 4: He came in that thing his first He ain't say
Speaker 4: let's ride, you know, he said, go big blue.
Speaker 2: I can't take this dude.
Speaker 1: Man, he's a borderline Hall of Famer, right like I
Speaker 1: think so.
Speaker 2: He is a borderline Hall of Famer. But I think
Speaker 2: the tail end of his career is starting to teeter it.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. I think he did enough
Speaker 2: early man one super Bowl.
Speaker 3: He's a He's an interception away from being a two
Speaker 3: time champ man.
Speaker 2: But guess what you did say? Do you blame him?
Speaker 2: He's sitting math Malcolm Bulets from Mississippi.
Speaker 4: He's from a town called Vicksburg, Mississippi, fifteen miles away
Speaker 4: from Jackson.
Speaker 2: They were throwing parades for Macca, for mathcolums, all.
Speaker 4: Kinds of stuff because of Russell now Riches, Richard Sherman,
Speaker 4: and the legion of Dude, most of them first first.
Speaker 2: Ballot Hall of famers. I think Russe is one of
Speaker 2: those guys because.
Speaker 4: If Eli went the first ballot, I don't know if
Speaker 4: Rusk get in Man, I think.
Speaker 3: In, but I look at it like this, get back
Speaker 3: to the point or the question. Yeah, I think Jameis
Speaker 3: Winston is a guy who I'm afraid of.
Speaker 1: Do you think it keeps him from drafting a quarterback? No? No,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna draft what are They picked him three
Speaker 1: four four?
Speaker 5: And that's the crazy part about it. They do they
Speaker 5: draft your door?
Speaker 3: If the door is sitting there and they still have
Speaker 3: the third pick, do they draft your door?
Speaker 5: And then now, how how does how does this pan out?
Speaker 3: All the Pat mahons treatment you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Let him so this is the this is why we're
Speaker 3: not going to spend too much more time with the Giants.
Speaker 1: It feels like a dumpster fire because basically the owner
Speaker 1: came out last year and said I probably should fire
Speaker 1: the GM and the head coach, and then he didn't
Speaker 1: fire them, And so now you get the GM and
Speaker 1: the head coach making these personnel decisions to keep their jobs.
Speaker 2: They might not be there.
Speaker 1: They might not be there. So are you gonna draft
Speaker 1: a quarterback?
Speaker 4: They were saying, I can draft a quarterback because I
Speaker 4: cannot deny that. The owner gonna be like, we still
Speaker 4: got a future here, and the future is not James
Speaker 4: in the future is not Russell Wilson like.
Speaker 1: So you' so if you if you I'm the I'm
Speaker 1: the I'm the owner, you're the head coach, you're making
Speaker 1: a pitch to me.
Speaker 4: You're trying to quarterback, and I'm gonna tell you, like this, Okay,
Speaker 4: I need to bring a venturing in here to stabilize
Speaker 4: us like we got we got we got the champions
Speaker 4: of the NBA and NFL in our division. We got
Speaker 4: an up and coming Washington team, and we got Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4: And to play against these guys, I'm gonna need a
Speaker 4: guy that been there and done it right now.
Speaker 2: I don't need a guy that's learning on the job
Speaker 2: right now. Now.
Speaker 4: I can't have one of these Venturans with Jamis and Russell,
Speaker 4: teach your doer how to be a pro, how to
Speaker 4: be in here.
Speaker 2: But I cannot put a rookie on the field.
Speaker 3: But this year, do you feel like if if Saud
Speaker 3: comes into that that room, do you think he's the
Speaker 3: best player week one?
Speaker 2: No, think about you?
Speaker 1: Okay. So I have done very little quarterback watching this
Speaker 1: year because we don't need one. I'm excited about that,
Speaker 1: but I will say when I have watched him that it's.
Speaker 4: Not He doesn't have the strong his arm right now,
Speaker 4: and I don't know if he can spin it in
Speaker 4: that stadium. You know what that stadium does the quarter
Speaker 4: now champin it and survived in there, So that gives
Speaker 4: me faith that should do it can survive in there.
Speaker 2: But I don't.
Speaker 5: But I heard I heard what the man name is.
Speaker 2: He was my gym when I was there, Tennemball. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I heard him.
Speaker 5: Give him give us your door. A comp with Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: So do you think kirtis the fourth round pack?
Speaker 3: But I'm saying to the point, that's the reason why
Speaker 3: I ask that question, Like if you comport him with
Speaker 3: Kurt Nofense.
Speaker 5: I love Kurt.
Speaker 2: I thought Kurt.
Speaker 3: He was precise, He was accurate. You know, he did
Speaker 3: everything that she had to do to win. So with
Speaker 3: that being said, if they're looking at him more of
Speaker 3: an accurate quarterback, that just kids, because I feel like
Speaker 3: I saw a little more than that in college from him.
Speaker 2: Though. He made plays.
Speaker 4: With not with his legs most of the time, but
Speaker 4: his one dimensional with the way he makes plays.
Speaker 2: He throws himself out of trouble.
Speaker 4: Now the one thing that knock on him and says
Speaker 4: he holds the ball a long time. Yes, well that's
Speaker 4: just all. It ain't no perfect prospects, like all of us,
Speaker 4: come to the league with.
Speaker 2: Something to work on. I think coaching to get him
Speaker 2: out of it.
Speaker 4: I just think he ain't the tight to say, here,
Speaker 4: the franchise, take.
Speaker 2: Us to victories.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't do that. Not that you do it now.
Speaker 4: Cam is a different question to cam Ward. I think
Speaker 4: cam Ward has enough seat to get him out of trouble,
Speaker 4: to help him survive.
Speaker 5: He's ricky.
Speaker 1: So obviously giants got a lot of stuff to work on,
Speaker 1: and it'll be interest to see what they do. Are
Speaker 1: they picking up three or four?
Speaker 4: I forget, no, it's three, Yeah, forget what either two,
Speaker 4: But we don't care. We're not gonna feel sorry for
Speaker 4: the giants, like never feel sorry for the giants.
Speaker 1: All right, So yeah, weird off season for that.
Speaker 2: Let Jerry cook, That's all I got to say. Listen.
Speaker 2: I love to.
Speaker 4: Let him do what he's doing. He does the oddest things.
Speaker 4: He waits so long to pay these players, and.
Speaker 2: He always paid.
Speaker 4: He played top ten players, top five money. He does
Speaker 4: it on such a high level.
Speaker 3: They it's all strange, man, I can't I can't wrap
Speaker 3: my head around it, Like just what what is the
Speaker 3: philosophy he has?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And I understand, like it's a family driven.
Speaker 3: Business, That's what I'm saying. Anything, it's business more than
Speaker 3: I'm like. But but just to say that they still
Speaker 3: have found a way to be one of the teams.
Speaker 3: That's I know they talk about them because of because
Speaker 3: of the star, because they're married, number one popular, But
Speaker 3: besides last year, they have won you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: They was winning the last what three the last four
Speaker 3: years they won three.
Speaker 4: Seasons in the regular season regular the whole knock on them,
Speaker 4: and they knocked that press gott my Misisippi State Board dog.
Speaker 4: They cannot win in the playoffs, and they cannot win
Speaker 4: in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: If it's the it's always something. If it ain't the coaches,
Speaker 4: it's the players. If it ain't the players, it's the coaches.
Speaker 4: If it ain't the coaches, it's the owner. If it's
Speaker 4: just something like, I don't think they have a culture,
Speaker 4: and especially now that I'm seeing with and filling this culture,
Speaker 4: I don't think they have a coach because coachre is
Speaker 4: winning over everything, and I think them is we're going
Speaker 4: to play on national TV seven games you no matter what,
Speaker 4: the brand gonna be strong. That's all we care about.
Speaker 4: And it shows in their playing because it.
Speaker 2: Ain't no way. And I love that.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm a big deck guy myself that is
Speaker 4: not supposed to be the highest paid quarterback in football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think when you get to the point
Speaker 3: of where he's at, wherever that tier has you, you
Speaker 3: have to get paid whatever it saying you deserve to
Speaker 3: get paid.
Speaker 2: I totally understand.
Speaker 3: But when you got a guy, I don't think a
Speaker 3: lot of these guys getting paid what they're worth right now.
Speaker 2: They getting paid what the market say.
Speaker 5: What the market says that then you have guys.
Speaker 2: Like Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 4: You have these other guys that say we're gonna figure
Speaker 4: this contract out to where I still need players, like it's.
Speaker 2: A way to get it done.
Speaker 4: I just think they don't go right about especially if
Speaker 4: I'm in the Dalla GM. The first thing I'm selling
Speaker 4: to these guys, five million in Texas is different than
Speaker 4: five million in DC. You're gonna get the whole five here,
Speaker 4: So let's let's start there. Let's start the money ways
Speaker 4: little bit more than I don't.
Speaker 5: Think they have those that that tax over there tax problems.
Speaker 4: They don't have any come tax. They don't have state
Speaker 4: tax tax. Yeah, they don't have state tax. So therefore,
Speaker 4: just like Florida, you get the whole check.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know that comes out and property tax
Speaker 3: probably absolutely right, but gonna get you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The doctor interesting. Obviously they fired their their head
Speaker 1: coach they brought in.
Speaker 2: So nobody gonna get in love of Shoheim.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like one to know him.
Speaker 5: We don't know him.
Speaker 2: Tell us about Brian.
Speaker 4: He's very intelligent, very smart, and this is what he
Speaker 4: come this is what he's gonna bring to the table
Speaker 4: that I think the last coach did. He's going to
Speaker 4: run the ball. He believes in running the ball. Daddy
Speaker 4: believed in running the ball. He's going to run the ball.
Speaker 4: His first thing he's going to address is who's in
Speaker 4: the backfield. I think they already signed a couple of
Speaker 4: running backs in his offseason.
Speaker 2: He's going to get try to get.
Speaker 4: That offensive linebacks solidified, and he's gonna try to take
Speaker 4: the game out of Dak's hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the so, I mean, that's just an interesting situation
Speaker 1: to me, like different than New York, but kind of
Speaker 1: feels the same way. It feels like they're just kind
Speaker 1: of stuck it in neutral. And then you know, but you.
Speaker 4: Gotta be sad if you're a Cowboy because you got
Speaker 4: a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Like it's like they definitely the Giants feel like they're
Speaker 1: in a rebuild and the Cowboys feel like they should
Speaker 1: be full pedal of the gas, let's go, but they
Speaker 1: just kind of sticking to the neutral.
Speaker 5: They do they sign partsons before the season, stuff.
Speaker 1: They should they should do so the Bettle they should
Speaker 1: they should done it last year.
Speaker 4: Just sooner the Bettle just go sound Indeed, is I
Speaker 4: really looked down the roster, but.
Speaker 3: That's gonna put that's gonna handicap them a little bit.
Speaker 1: Quarterback, I think the Giants might have a better roster.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting that's an interesting thought, especially now, like
Speaker 1: and everyone thinks of the Giant the Cowboys great offensive lines,
Speaker 1: banged up, got a lot of young guys in the group.
Speaker 3: Kind of the Giants have always been strong everywhere else,
Speaker 3: but quarterback lately right now.
Speaker 4: Because you look at Timberda, you look at Launch, you
Speaker 4: look at the lineback and court you look.
Speaker 3: At has always been a question with Danny Jones. Everybody
Speaker 3: else has been everybody else.
Speaker 2: Been solid, Like y'all, they the Giants got players.
Speaker 5: They just jay Don is gonna be fighting for a
Speaker 5: starting job over then Indy. They said they let both
Speaker 5: of those guys.
Speaker 4: I think the only thing they messed up with Richard
Speaker 4: is if the dude ain't play football in college, you
Speaker 4: gotta let him play lay.
Speaker 1: I think they're to be there is like, that's Anthony
Speaker 1: Richards is a really interesting example to me. And this
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a digression of why understanding
Speaker 1: the person is so important, because like, there's certain guys
Speaker 1: that can play a little bit of football, but they're
Speaker 1: like pros. You know on time, and I've heard that
Speaker 1: he's got some maturity issues worked through. And when you
Speaker 1: just give somebody who's still young figure like they sometimes crashed,
Speaker 1: I think so, and I.
Speaker 4: Just feel like he's very much with a San Francisco quarterback,
Speaker 4: Trey uh Lance.
Speaker 2: Trey Lance had played, he had played no games.
Speaker 4: He had played one story year, just like AK forty
Speaker 4: seven played one starting year.
Speaker 2: And now you get to the leagues and.
Speaker 4: Everybody over ripped, everybody got more reps than you. And
Speaker 4: now you're playing ketchup. And now you're playing ketchup with
Speaker 4: a team that's taking you in and out, in and out,
Speaker 4: in and out. You never even get a groove, like
Speaker 4: sometimes I need you to take a step back. By
Speaker 4: Nazi scene going out there playing to take a step forward,
Speaker 4: but just not letting him do it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right. So that was just the Philia Eagles.
Speaker 2: Are they better?
Speaker 1: Are they worse? Are they the same?
Speaker 2: I don't think you ever can stay the same. You
Speaker 2: need to get better. How you get worse?
Speaker 4: Now, I can't say that before the draft because you
Speaker 4: just don't know what Howie Rose and don't do.
Speaker 3: And the draft, like, man, let's look at who already lost,
Speaker 3: they lost Big Play, they lost defensive.
Speaker 4: Linement Wife, they lost Big Milton, they lost Sweatt. But
Speaker 4: they also drafted some guys that they've been holding in
Speaker 4: the wings like they do.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They always have.
Speaker 5: They got back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they guy guys that they holding the wings.
Speaker 4: But when you it was a buttering like Graham, Brandon Grant,
Speaker 4: that's a stable now and we ain't talking sack numbers,
Speaker 4: were talking prison culture.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the one thing I can say about Philadelphia, I
Speaker 4: hate to say this, it tastes like throw up in
Speaker 4: my mouth day when it comes to veterance. Culturally, they
Speaker 4: keep their veterans longer than anybody. Lence Johneson been there
Speaker 4: a long time. Fletcher Cox started his career, they'll finish
Speaker 4: the career the Brandon Graham started his career, they'll finish
Speaker 4: his career. Like they have faces and people that has
Speaker 4: been stalwarts in their locker room.
Speaker 2: And some of these guys are gone.
Speaker 5: So offensively, they still intact though they have.
Speaker 1: All they lost.
Speaker 4: Mackay beck Lance is getting got a year older now
Speaker 4: he ain't getting young. So you know they still Johnson
Speaker 4: the bone, they still got their backbone out.
Speaker 1: Think Yeah, I think as long as the offensive line,
Speaker 1: like you said, for they always are developing offensive line,
Speaker 1: Like Tyler Steen has been there for two years. He's
Speaker 1: good back up, you know what I mean. They've got
Speaker 1: pieces there that make that thing work.
Speaker 5: I think they and neutral right now.
Speaker 1: But I think the one thing for me is that
Speaker 1: they were really healthy last year. I don't think they
Speaker 1: can be that healthy this year.
Speaker 4: We were.
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a regression, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: And that leads to me to the last question. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we've had a new division winner NFC. Is that
Speaker 1: a new division winner every season since two thousand and four?
Speaker 1: Obviously the Eagles won last year, right, m hm. I
Speaker 1: feel like this is the Commander's year.
Speaker 2: This is is our year, right, it feels that way.
Speaker 2: Take it to the bank. It is.
Speaker 5: I mean, we got a tougher schedule, that's fine.
Speaker 4: Like the one thing I always say to people when
Speaker 4: they say you got a tough schedule, I say, it's
Speaker 4: no fair dodging.
Speaker 2: You gotta play everybody anyway. We showed that when we
Speaker 2: went to Detroit. We showed that in.
Speaker 4: Temple when it come to playing the big dogs, we
Speaker 4: can play the big dogs and now we just got reinforcements,
Speaker 4: So I'm fine with it. And we know the chronological
Speaker 4: thing in this division where something always happens to the
Speaker 4: division leader the next year and injury you brought it
Speaker 4: up is the number one calls and falling a step back,
Speaker 4: and sometimes it only need to happen to one person,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I just think, also,
Speaker 4: I think we're looking forward to playing them, Like I
Speaker 4: don't think our group is saying we don't want none
Speaker 4: of them. They say, yeah, we won't, we want some
Speaker 4: of them. So if I was a bet man right now,
Speaker 4: I had to go to the casino and bet I
Speaker 4: would put my money down as a Command's winning the
Speaker 4: division next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's exciting like that. It's an exciting
Speaker 1: time to be a Commanders fan for sure. Like I
Speaker 1: look at I'm like, dude, like there's a great opportunity
Speaker 1: for this team to do a lot of good things.
Speaker 1: They've gotten better, feels like everybody else in the division
Speaker 1: feels like they've kind of stayed status quo. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: maybe this is the time which should be pretty fantastic.
Speaker 4: Well, like this, we're not gonna sneak up on anybody, nobody,
Speaker 4: everybody gonna give us their best.
Speaker 1: But I do think the thing you a better strength
Speaker 1: of schedule will be really interesting because you're playing better quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you're playing better teams. You do have to grow up
Speaker 1: a lot of.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like the schedule. Everybody feel like this.
Speaker 2: I always say this.
Speaker 1: You don't know the schedule. You don't know this.
Speaker 3: The seasons until you play those teams not going to
Speaker 3: be the same either.
Speaker 1: I just look at quarterbacks, so that's that's what I want,
Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks are better, so usually that makes it
Speaker 1: harder on defenses. And then if it's harder on the defense,
Speaker 1: you gotta score more points. So that's high level.
Speaker 4: Just about the South part of the schedule last year,
Speaker 4: because it was not the AFC North, that's a vision
Speaker 4: of the visions.
Speaker 2: It was. It was the South. That's it, right, Because if.
Speaker 4: Now we're going to play who the West in the
Speaker 4: AFC with Kansas City, I think that's comparable to Baltimore
Speaker 4: and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So if I look at it, is this Grinton schedule
Speaker 4: really changing?
Speaker 2: I just think NFL football is NFL football. Thirty two
Speaker 2: teams can beat you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: I look at the quarterbacks though, and I'm like, and
Speaker 1: that you got Patrick Mahomes, you got Herbert? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? There's like better Herbert.
Speaker 2: Listen to me, y'all have been putting Herbert.
Speaker 1: He's a good player.
Speaker 2: He's a good player. But is he a gamer?
Speaker 4: He just like if I write him on piece of paper,
Speaker 4: he is determinator like six four like cannon of is
Speaker 4: he a gamer?
Speaker 2: Singing?
Speaker 1: I mean there's times he's look at so look at
Speaker 1: that offense last year. Look at what they had an
Speaker 1: offense last year. They had a backed up offensive line
Speaker 1: that Lad mccaukey and that's it. And it was like Herbert,
Speaker 1: and they weren't a lot of games.
Speaker 2: It was. But is he a game? Have we seen
Speaker 2: this person before?
Speaker 1: Who you got? You got a compidmind?
Speaker 2: What you got? I have no company? Mind?
Speaker 4: I'm asking you because we had a couple of quarterbacks
Speaker 4: in this league that has been all right.
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, he's way better than Trouble.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is the prince who was promised God's gift.
Speaker 2: The quarterbacks all right, but can't get over the hump.
Speaker 5: That's more so that's more so with his team though
Speaker 5: I don't think.
Speaker 1: Coming out Yeah, I don't know if I told you
Speaker 1: that why, because I just was like, he's too it's
Speaker 1: too robotic. There wasn't like like when you watch like
Speaker 1: Jade's a good example, this Strake May Caleb Williams example. This,
Speaker 1: there was a they're playing, they're playing the game.
Speaker 2: They letting the game come up and they figured it
Speaker 2: out about the game.
Speaker 1: And I felt like there was a lot of design
Speaker 1: touches for Trey Lance and there was a lot not
Speaker 1: Lawrence Lawrence, and there was a lot of kind of
Speaker 1: like not a lot of ball arc variants. So I
Speaker 1: had one throw one club and quarterbacks that have one
Speaker 1: club usually. So again I didn't think. I didn't think
Speaker 1: he was going to be like this, But I never
Speaker 1: was like.
Speaker 4: This is one thing I have always hated. I respect
Speaker 4: quarterbacks simply like Drew Brees. Drew Brees was purduced. He
Speaker 4: didn't have no first round there wide receive, didn't have
Speaker 4: no first round. In running back, I like, I like
Speaker 4: guys that carry their team. Like so when I see
Speaker 4: a quarterback from Alabama, I'd be like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I see a quarterback that had ten first round is
Speaker 4: on this team. I'm like, how good are you really?
Speaker 4: And this is what Trema Lowens had sam.
Speaker 1: I mean that was some of the conversation with Jake
Speaker 1: Dails last year, right because.
Speaker 2: He had those two Poe de receivers.
Speaker 4: But I also seen games break down and the unst
Speaker 4: you and him just take it over.
Speaker 1: Like the Alabama game comes, I mean, well.
Speaker 2: And they wasn't the best team. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They wasn't the best team that was out there. That's
Speaker 4: why I'd be like, yeah, I take him because it's.
Speaker 2: Some games that broke down. And he just said, you
Speaker 2: know what, Florida, I take over this game.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I mean, uh yeah. So I can't
Speaker 1: wait to watch to see if the team can pull
Speaker 1: out against tougher schedules schedule when the division, which should
Speaker 1: be fantastic. We'll see if Justin Herbert is the real deal.
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